No ‘Rainbow Families’: Ethnic Donor Stipulation at Fertility Centre ‘Floors’ Local Woman

Jessica Barrett, Calgary Herald, July 25, 2014

A Calgary woman says she was shocked to learn of a policy at the city’s only fertility treatment centre that restricts patients from using sperm, eggs or embryos from donors who do not match their ethnic background.

Catherine, who asked to use only her first name, said she sought invitro fertilization at the Regional Fertility Program last March as a single woman. During routine consultations with her doctor she was told she could only use sperm from donors who were white, like her.

“That’s when everything went downhill,” she told the Herald. “I was absolutely floored.”

Dr. Calvin Greene, the clinic’s administrative director, confirmed the private facility will not treat couples or singles who insist on using donors of a different ethnicity. The policy has been in place since the clinic opened in the 1980s.

“I’m not sure that we should be creating rainbow families just because some single woman decides that that’s what she wants,” he said. “That’s her prerogative, but that’s not her prerogative in our clinic.”

A statement on the clinic’s website reads: “it is the practice of the Regional Fertility Program not to permit the use of a sperm donor that would result in a future child appearing racially different than the recipient or the recipient’s partner.”

Greene said doctors at the clinic feel “a child of an ethnic background should have the ability to be able to identify with their ethnic roots.” He added patients should have a “cultural connection” to their donors.

The Alberta Human Rights Commission upheld the policy after a white couple brought a complaint against the clinic about five years ago, Greene said.

They were not infertile but had hoped to use non-Caucasian sperm. “Our psychologist evaluated them and really didn’t see why a couple that is not infertile should be choosing sperm donors they have no cultural relationship with.”

Interracial couples treated at the clinic have the option of using donors that are ethnically similar to either one of the partners, he added, noting most patients want their children to resemble them.

According to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta, doctors can refuse to provide non-emergency treatment on moral grounds as long as they refer patients to other doctors who will. However the Regional Fertility Program is the only fertility clinic in Calgary, so patients must go to Edmonton, Saskatoon, Vancouver or beyond if they don’t agree with its policy. Women receiving fertility treatment often need daily or very frequent treatments for a matter of months.

Greene said the clinic’s policy follows similar guidelines used with in-province adoption and foster care, where children are placed with families of their same cultural background whenever possible.

“I would ask you, why would you not choose somebody of your own cultural background?”

Catherine said there are many reasons. By the time she narrowed down her pool of potential donors to those who met Canadian standards, had a good health history and a compatible blood type, she was left with only 20 or so Caucasian candidates to choose from. Many of them had already been used by several other patients in Calgary.

“Frankly, it’s appalling how many people have the same donors, probably because of this policy,” she said. “A friend of mine just went through this process and used the donor that I would have picked.”

Looking at other ethnicities significantly increased her options. While many people do want children who will look like them, she said she is less concerned with the colour of her potential child’s skin than the demeanour, personality and health history it might inherit from its biological father.

But Greene countered that there are lots of quality Caucasian donors available. “She needs to look harder, because I can tell you reasonable people can easily find a suitable donor.”

He added that visible minorities often have the most trouble finding candidates because their pool–as dictated by the clinic–is generally smaller.

Greene was adamant the rule follows the spirit of Canada’s Assisted Human Reproduction Act, which demands doctors place priority on the well-being of potential children and refrain from producing “designer” babies.

But Tim Caulfield, a University of Alberta law professor and legal expert in assisted reproduction, said the policy is “archaic.”

“To assume that the colour of one’s skin determines their culture, determines their well-being I think is unfortunate,” he said, noting many could argue the Regional Fertility Program is producing designer kids by virtue of its own restrictions.

Children whose ethnicity is different than their parents will “have a different life experience,” he acknowledged. But “to assume that these different types of life experiences somehow put them at a disadvantage, or that we have to ensure that everyone has some kind of ‘normal’ family is, I think, a mistake.”

The law around assisted reproduction is murky, he said, but in today’s multicultural society, and with demographic predictions holding that Caucasian people will soon be the minority in many Canadian cities, there is no way to dictate what a given family should look like.

Ultimately Catherine’s family may never involve biological children. At 38, she hasn’t yet ruled out returning to the clinic to continue her IVF, but her experience has made her reconsider whether she really needs to have a child of her own.

“I think I’ve come to terms and accepted that having children in your life doesn’t necessarily mean ownership of one.”

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  • Groovy

    This will become a new “civil rights” issue. How long do you think it will for a bill to be introduced in the California Legislature to prohibit this policy.

    • JDInSanD

      How long before you are not even allowed to screen by race?

    • Jack Burton

      They in fact do no prohibit interracial impregnations, providing that the couple or individual is interracial. So it’s not a strict policy against interracialism, rather it’s for the sake of the child’s identity which is why it held up in court.

      • Dale McNamee

        And the “anti-miscegenation” laws of the Old South were condemned… How ironic !

        • Mark Hillyard

          They didn’t invent the “anti-miscegenation” law. They were simply following the Biblical command to not inter-marry.

    • Anna Tree

      Sadly I think you are right, civil rights before anything, including Child Right: a child has the right to a married mom and dad. Children do better with a married mom and dad:

      To paraphrase Dr. Tracee Hansen (it was about adoption by homosexuals, but many who opposed those adoptions, oppose for the same reason adoptions by single parents):
      Single parents family definitely isn’t in the best interest of children. And although we empathize with those singles who long to parent children, we mustn’t allow our compassion for them to trump our compassion for children. In a contest between the desires of some singles and the needs of all children, we can’t allow the children to lose.

  • MekongDelta69

    My AmRen ‘feel good’ article of the week…

    • RisingReich

      You are really reaching lately. I don’t blame you at all.

      Getting harder and harder to find something positive to hold on to.

    • slash345

      Indeed. Glad to read pieces like this from time to time.

  • WR_the_realist

    Lefties are always shocked by sensible policies. I can always tell how sensible a policy is by how outraged the lefties are.

  • D.B. Cooper

    I would like to see what some of these now twentysomething designer babies have done with their lives Did they turn out to be Superman and Wonder Woman?

  • Luke N

    Why the [email protected] would a white woman want sperm from a black man????? This is just sicking, these liberal white woman are a major cause of white decline. They refuse to have white children, and breed with any colored. And if they marry a white they only have one or two kids–less than the replacement level.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      “Frankly, it’s appalling how many people have the same donors, probably
      because of this policy,” she said. “A friend of mine just went through
      this process and used the donor that I would have picked.”

      She doesn’t even want the sperm, she just wants to be outraged. Her name is in the paper for ‘sticking up for. . .whatever.’ Good for her!

    • D.B. Cooper

      The fact that “Catherine” even has to go to a sperm donor to begin with tells me she be havin’ trouble findin’ a man. I wonder if she looks like…

      • Bossman

        Why are you making fun of this old Arab-American woman who is now deceased? When she was young she may have been a very decent person.

        • Alexandra1973

          I get the feeling that you probably couldn’t care less, you’re just trying to show off how “moral” you are.

          • LHathaway

            The loaded statement in his post is this ‘she may have been a decent person when she was young’. As far as I can tell, he believes old and/or ugly people are not decent.

            He’s showing how immoral he is. There’s a phrase I’m reminded of, something like, ‘when someone shows you what they are, believe them’.

        • journey

          believe she’s jewish.

          • Kenner

            Helen Thomas was Arab American, and lost her spot in the White House press corps for saying Jews should get out of Israel and go back to Europe.

          • journey

            You are correct. Always assumed Thomas was Jewish and found it odd why she would make such a statement as Jews should go back to Germany, etc.

        • When I was young I was a very decent person. Fortunately, at 48, I am still young, because otherwise I’d be really bloody angry.

        • Sometimes the years wear hard on people.

    • kjh64

      There are plenty of White men who have kids with Asians and Hispanics. Also, most White men and women, including liberals, have kids with people of their own race. White couples decide together how many kids to have, it’s not just the women. White women I’ve found want to have more kids than the average White men. It’s not like White men are all dying to have 6 kids but White women refuse.

      • Ella

        No kidding…..if I ever expressed I wanted 3 or 4 children one day after dating for a few months, these white males would run like no tomorrow. Many women want more children but the men wait too long to marry (early 30’s). It takes time to build a larger family.

        • Usually Much Calmer

          And kids are expensive when you are responsible.

        • RisingReich

          It works both ways sister. Lots of white women whoring around with blacks and such during prime years. Just as well as men, there is another faction of women putting off kids until it’s too late in pursuit of the career.

          Also a consideration is the fact men can father much later in life which is not the case for women. That’s just reality.

          I wouldn’t run from you because of your honest expression about desired number of children. What I would run from is your attitude about men that saturates your post.

          Men and women were not created equal, but rather as compliments to each other.

          • kjh64

            There is nothing wrong with “Ella’s” attitude towards men, she is just being honest. There is however a lot wrong with some of the attitudes about women on here from some. Yes, men and women are equal but equal doesn’t mean the same, there are differences and yes the sexes compliment each other.

            A lot more White men than women don’t want kids or want fewer kids. This is from a lot of personal experience. Too many White men today don’t want to be bothered with kids, they don’t want to “commit”. A lot of guys don’t want responsibility, it’s all about them. There is a joke among women that if you want to dump a guy, tell him you want to have his six kids.

            Women are well aware that they can’t have kids a late as men can so if they want kids, then they don’t or won’t let a “career” stand in the way, especially since they can combine both if they want.

            Most White men and women are more responsible and only have the number of kids they can afford to raise. Since people no longer live on farms and need kids to help, a large family is a liability today. However, if economic times were better, Whites would definitely have more kids.

          • coco bongo

            To be very honest, I am very disgusted with white women right now.

            .

          • RisingReich

            Women and men are NOT equal. Never have been and never will be.
            Women like you are in this constant battle to prove otherwise and you just perpetuate this divide between us. Get over it we both have roles to play. Different roles.

          • Ella

            I think you are from an older generation? I dated mostly X and Y men who try to get their honey (live together /loose strings/no kids) for free and placed a low value on marriage. Much focus is on materialism. Liberation allowed men to escape more responsibilities and blame women for all the low birthing. It is really a joint problem. Dating is an interview of likes, shared goals and wants. When I dated years back, I left more men because they never could give me a direct answer about having kids, and it never was the opposite. I never had a guy leave me in my adult years. They just wanted to live together and shack up……..I am better than this and never fell for their traps.

            Not all men can father later in life. Some smoke, drink too much, avoid exercise, have poor diets and work around hazardous materials for years with harmful exposure to chemicals. Oh well, you have to work together if you want to begin a family. We are not all so different.

          • coco bongo

            Oh, that explains this

            .

          • Ella

            Don’t give up on the 90% of white women who still remain selective with their partner and marry European descent men. I cannot control what these women choose, and they will have to live with the consequences of their bi-racial children with darker skin and nappy hair. I can only raise my children to make smarter choice!

          • I am sure his father watches lots of television.

          • RisingReich

            You are half correct. I’m almost 35, but raised by very “old” parents. Mom was almost 35 when I was born and Dad was 52 – he’s a WWII vet (seems to be one of the last remaining with his head intact).

            Therefore, I had the benefit of growing up in a family that had WWII generation rules and values enforced. Mom was what Mom should be – content with being at home and giving direction and love to kids.

            Dad taught me about honesty, integrity, and being respectful to elders and authority. No losers or bums or excuses allowed.

            My friends of my own generation where completely petrified of him, because in contrast to their own parents he was an “A” type enforcer and ruled the house.

            It’s no wonder I have such a hard time relating to those my own age bc I’ve become so much like him.

            I have quite a bit of generational hatred of the sixties generation who “liberalized” everything and made society so miserable.

          • Ella

            I totally agree with you. My parents are from the Silent Generation. My Dad was very conservative with his rules and educational expectations. He raised me conservative and taught me many outdoor sports -not joking. He hated wearing suit /ties to work in the old days but never complained about his roles. My Mom was restless staying at home sometimes. Women really respected their husbands to hold multiple jobs so they did not get stuck in factory work.
            Like me, some of my friends gave up their professions to stay at-home with their children realizing that these “glory” professional jobs, promoted by feminists in college, did not work for us at the end. We put family first and quit our careers. We don’t miss a day of corporate life. And yes, I cook for health reasons and actually enjoy it!
            I feel the same way toward the Boomers. They supported multiple lies and confused or blended the sex roles. They sold out the American family.

          • RisingReich

            Good for you. Glad YOU seem to get what I’m saying. Most are still stuck in feminazi land.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            It’s hard work Ella, but you should talk to men who are married and fathers. What they’ll tell you about the stresses they have to deal with will shock you. All of my friends are married men, and some of them are very frustrated because their wives and children do not understand they can only do so much. I was married myself, and I found out the hard way that if your spouse is not going to work with you, then it’s impossible to shoulder all the burdens alone, especially when you are working long hours as I was. Marriage is of NO legal or economic benefit to men, thanks to disastrous changes to the law such as no-fault divorce. THAT is why many men are not marrying in the first place.

  • Usually Much Calmer

    Good Lord. My brain almost exploded on reading this.
    I don’t even know where to begin.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      I know what you mean UMC, I always get a bad headache afterwards.

      • Usually Much Calmer

        I can always count on you for the perfect illustration!

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Why thank you UMC, your post brought to mind the bug eyed Martians who can’t stand western yodeling in the movie, “Mars Attacks.”

          • Usually Much Calmer

            Oh, I knew exactly what it was, ZS!
            I did not enjoy that movie when I first saw it but I have thought of it many times since. Have a great weekend.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Likewise UMC……..:-)

    • Ella

      It shows how far self-hatred has reached the ordinary white person. I just wish that there is a correction point somewhere. This future baby has been made into a political statement before conception.

  • Pro_Whitey

    I am against sperm donation unless the donor is on the hook for support. Anything else is bullspit. No kids without two parents willing to take responsibility, and if we catch a father not taking responsibility, it’s involuntary vasectomy time! That said, I love the policy. Helps prevent more resentful half-breeds, in this case, fatherless resentful half-breeds. One Obama is more than enough.

  • journey

    This clinic, Regional Fertility Program, is on the list for re-education, soon.

  • TheCogitator

    I’ll bet no black women come in asking to impregnated with a white man’s sperm. Only a mentally ill white liberal woman would ask to be able to have a black baby. They ought to whisk that woman away to a mental institution.

    • journey

      Actually, blacks prize lighter skin.

      • Oldcorporal

        Actually, EVERYONE prizes lighter skin! They often just won’t admit it. Indians use skin-lightening potions, too.

        • IstvanIN

          Fair and Lovely I believe.

        • Jack Burton

          Except white people, who now hate pale skin and want to be tanned and think it’s “healthy” despite the cancer risk. Makes you question the sanity of whites.

      • John R

        No, black men just prize White (I can’t use the word, or the comment will be moderated.)

  • Ultimate187

    If all the white couples in Calgary seeking fertility treatments only chose from 20 Caucasian donors, the rates of unintentional incest in the future could skyrocket.

    • You forget that she “narrowed down” the list of white donors first, probably by some kind of ridiculous metric. I don’t know iou what info about the donors the place provides, but it’s fairly safe to assume those 20 are the “cream of the crop” income above xxx, age below xxx, IQ above xxx, Etc. Etc. It’s also likely that she threw a hissyfit expressly because when she was almost done picking her designer baby, she realised her socialite friend had already picked “the best one” and it wasn’t FAIR! So what’s the best way to one up her?

      I know! Have a little brown baby! … and then she found out that wasn’t allowed (because it’s disgusting) and hence, the outrage. She’s just a moron trying to grow her own little mulatto accessory, and those mean people at the clinic are getting in her way.

      Anyhow, women who just want a baby of their own, who can’t have one for legitimate reasons (infertile husband) are much less likely to be so picky as to pick from that pool of 20, as opposed to what in reality are probably thousands of choices, and they’re more likely to narrow their choice down by visual choices to match their husband, such as hair and eye color, height, etc.

      So although tabloid worthy sensational, no, I don’t think your comment has any chance of being a danger to Calgary in the near future.

  • richard garyson

    Good for this clinic. Why would any white male, with a pair, want his wife inseminated with another a non-white sperm. What a gutless püssy. If you want to be cuckolded then just pimp her out. Disgusting.

    • Why would a husband want somebody else’s kid at all?

    • Adolf Verloc

      “With a pair?” That’s probably the problem in the first place.

    • Oldcorporal

      I just returned home after a week in a Florida city much bigger than my hometown. The blacks there were BLACK black, and often spooky looking. Not much miscegenation in that community, apparently!

  • IstvanIN

    She could just go to a bar and get knocked up by a non-white for free. Well maybe she would have to buy him a drink.

    • Martel733

      Hell she could just go to a sidewalk in broad daylight and get raped in a die-ver-city

    • John R

      I know. A White woman looking for a black sperm donor! Gosh, I am having trouble typing this; it cracks me up!!! (Insert favorite racist joke here.)

      • RisingReich

        I don’t find it comical in the slightest.

    • Anna Tree

      She seems to want to boost she has high standards… maybe she thinks that she will find much high standards in non-whites donors, you know all those black judges and doctors, scientists and pilots who are everywhere on the TV…

      I presume she will get the ones you are talking about, those in the bars etc…

  • Jefferson

    “Doctors at fertility clinic say mixed-race children will have trouble with racial identity.”

    The vast majority of Mulatos in North America self identify themselves as BLACK ONLY just like Barack Hussein Obama, so what trouble with racial identity ? Most Mulatos seem to be pretty confident that they are Black only, most of them do no come off as racially confused about what they should self identify themselves as.

    • Bossman

      Only in the USA. In Latin America, Mulattoes do not identify as Black. In Africa, any Black with a drop of Arab blood will identify himself as Arab.

      • Gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with those countries not giving preferences to you if you claim African heritage, and in fact, outright discriminating if you’re something other than the natives to that land.

        (Guess there’s one thing Arabs and Hispanics got right)

    • Erasmus

      Mulattos identify with their black side because they want to be leader of the pack. Among the people of their white parent most will remain at best average. Because of their white genes among blacks they’re head and shoulders above the competition.

  • I smell a rat. The woman in this story is likely another Rosa Parks, sent into the clinic by feminists and liberals to create a stink in order to get the courts to change the policy or to create public pressure to help her secure her “rights.” Note that she won’t give out her last name. The press knows who she is, but they don’t want us to know.

    Be skeptical. Just as with Rosa Parks, there are a lot of set ups being conducted by liberals today to utterly destroy every last vestige of respect for whites and white culture.

  • Bossman

    Canada started off as a nation with thousands of French and Scottish fur traders who were mostly bachelors who interbred with native Indian women. Today Canada is a mostly white nation.

    • Alexandra1973

      What’s your point?

      BTW I’ve been to Toronto. Lots of Orientals there. Mr. Engelman would love it.

      • His point is “mexeecans are a vibrant and deeverse peeple, a freendly trading partnur, and dontchu wurrie about interbreeding, Whitey won’t disappear, we promise!”

        the flaw in his fourth grade logic is that Canada is mostly white because the whites demographically flooded Canada, and bred out the Indian genes… which is exactly what’s happening in reverse with Mexico. They’re flooding us with their filth, and if it’s not stopped, we will be washed away.

        Which is, of course, exactly what “lawncareprofessionalman” wants.

        • Bossman

          Glad to see that you understood what I’m talking about. Mexico will only make the USA more vibrant, rich and prosperous. They are already doing that right now. Read what the experts have to say about this subject.

          • Alexandra1973

            What are you smoking?

      • Bossman

        My point is that I’m giving you a little bit of history. Canada is now allowing too many East Asians to enter their country. These people are very alien to North America.

    • LHathaway

      Fur Traders, hehe hehe

  • dd121

    Here comes the ATF and a Federal Swat Team. We can’t let such blatant racism stand.

  • Oldcorporal

    These White couples (and the single woman) must have rocks in their heads, or have been completely brainwashed by the “diversity” crowd. Most miscegenation, at least in the early years of the Americas, came about because of we men’s obsessive desire for sex, and the lack of White Hispanic women (in Latin America), or the presence of black slaves (in the U.S. South.) It’s not like anyone set out to establish a “new breed” of mankind. It’s true; why would you not prefer a spouse and sex partner of your own race, if one is available?

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Agreed, they are as dumb as a bag of hammers.

      • RisingReich

        Alarmingly and depressingly so.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      Very well established in R.W.. Schufeldt’s old book “The Negro – A Menace to American Civilization.” Can be found on line, BTW.

      • HE2

        From the book, after a bit about blacks’ only interest being in the moment sensuality and sex without thought of procreation:
        In other words, negroes are purely animal, that is, in the sense of
        quadrupedal animals, in this respect. Nor should we expect anything
        different from this; civilization and progressive civilization are
        altogether meaningless to them, consequently posterity has practically
        no interest for them. They live in the present, and being essentially
        without morals, and, as a rule, being equipped far above the average man
        for sensual indulgences, he gives that side of his nature full sway,
        when no restrictions of any kind whatever are present to hinder.

  • Adolf Verloc

    This is just elementary good sense. Adopted black kids in white families have lots of problems. This would be no different. It’s one thing if a mixed-race couple has children, it’s another to permit single women or white couples to produce mulatto babies as fashion accessories.

    • John R

      Adopted black kids in White families have lots of problems. Black kids born to White females have problems. Black kids in black families have lots of problems. Black parents have lots of problems with their kids. Black kids and black parents have lots of problems. Black people living in White countries have lots of problems. Black people in black countries have lots of problems. People living near black people have lots of problems. Black people going to White schools have lots of problems. Black people in black schools have lots of problems……(This can go on and on….)

      • RisingReich

        We can shorten this.
        Black people have problems.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          Everybody has problems, but blacks obviously have more problems than most. That’s why they were segregated and forced to remain in their own communities. Segregation minimizes black problems by forcing them to live amongst their kind and under environmental conditions where black behavior is considered “normal.”

        • John R

          Even shorter: Blacks ARE a problem!

      • Deserves many, many more upvotes. Blacks in mixed race couples aren’t somehow magically exempt from problems, they’re still blacks, and therefore destined to be dysfunctional.

        • John R

          Thank you! Yes, that is the best kind of humor. It is funny because it is so true.

      • Alexandra1973

        I know someone whose in-laws adopted a couple of black kids. Now they’re having problems with them, and they think medication will help. I was thinking, there’s no cure for being black….

        • Usually Much Calmer

          Did you say anything, Alexandra? (Sincerely just curious.)

        • John R

          Exactly! They are a completely different sub-species that belongs back in their natural jungle habitat. (A little like that horrific story of the chimp attack on that poor woman. If there was a story that was a commentary on race relations, that was it.)

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Indeed, there’s no fixing black……

  • RyanP

    I am floored by this: “The Alberta Human Rights Commission upheld the policy”

    Being Canadian I am very familiar with these so called Human Rights Commissions. Based on their past actions I am absolutely astounded that they did not fine the fertility clinic.

    • Alexandra1973

      Wait for it.

  • kjh64

    The problem with people who want to have mixed race kids is that they are not thinking about the kids. If I bring a kid into the world, I want to make sure that I don’t make it more difficult for my child. Life if already difficult enough even if everything is perfect. Mixed race kids DO have more difficulties, they have identity issues regarding race. It may make it harder for mixed race kids to find marriage partners later on. If a mixed race kid needs, say a bone marrow transplant, it can be difficult or impossible to find a match. If these people aren’t going to think about what is best for their child as opposed to their own “ideals”, they shouldn’t have kids IMO.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      Yes. She is not thinking about the kid. This may not be selfishness or self-centeredness on her part, though.

      She may have been raised from birth with the idea that ‘race is meaningless except for racists, who are full of hate’. Given that, there’s not much for her to think about.

      Lies are awful.

  • Ograf

    I am sure that these people have completely lost their damn minds. Like the movie stars who think it is “fashionable” to drag home these kids from the darkest parts of Africa, and they are blonde haired and blue eyed, Of course nannies raise the kids, and the parent basks in her liberalism and what other mental illnesses she has.

  • Ed

    They were not infertile but had hoped to use non-Caucasian sperm. “Our psychologist evaluated them and really didn’t see why a couple that is not infertile should be choosing sperm donors they have no cultural relationship with.”

    Wow simply wow, have some progressives gone this far over the deep end?

    • Sick of it

      Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

      • Usually Much Calmer

        Anti-racist is also a cue that someone is derangedly insane at this point.

        I would sooner turn my back on a rabid dog than on a tolerance apparatchik.

        • Sick of it

          Anyone who follows your advice will live longer.

  • There is already some black idiot in Georgia (I think) who wants abortion banned in black-on-white rape cases.

    • John R

      Yeah, think of how much that cuts down the multiracial birth rate? It’s genocide!

    • Alexandra1973

      If, God forbid, that should happen here, I would not abort. I’d find some stupid liberal couple and let them bear the burden.

      • RisingReich

        I imagine you aren’t talking about yourself here?

        You’d carry that thing for 9 months?

        • ShermanTMcCoy

          “Thing” being the operative word. Geez, look at what is infesting the White House!

          • RisingReich

            Agreed. It has morphed into something larger and much more insidious than one “thing”.

        • Alexandra1973

          I am talking about myself. I’m against abortion, it’s not a safe procedure for starters…but I figure, in this hypothetical situation if a libtard couple gets saddled, it’s paybacks. 🙂

          I’m over 40 and I live in an almost all-White area, plus I’m big on safety, so that scenario’s highly unlikely.

          • RisingReich

            Glad you’re safe.

      • You wouldn’t kill the monster, but would instead let it grow to adulthood so it could kill someone else. That’s a great idea.

  • NorthernWind

    […] in today’s multicultural society, and with demographic predictions holding that caucasian people will soon be the minority in many Canadian cities, there is no way to dictate what a given family should look like.”

    How do they come up with stuff like this? How does “there is no way to dictate what a given family should look like” logically follow from “demographic predictions [hold] that Caucasian people will soon be the minority in many Canadian cities”? Why even mention that Whites are becoming a minority?

  • Alexandra1973

    Finally someone with some sense.

    And I’m floored–why would anyone like this nut want a donor of another race–and to become a single mother at that?

  • 2eRep

    Why birth one, it is cheap to just buy one.

    • John R

      We already have. It’s called the welfare system.

  • John R

    What the hospital is doing makes perfect sense, of course I don’t know how much longer they will be allowed to do it. On the one hand, non-Whites complain how much they are “not accepted” in a White society, then, in the next breath, they claim there is nothing wrong with interracial marriage and adoption. Yes, mixed race people are just so wrong; it is so unnatural. And if they are half black, they will only end up growing to hate their White side. (As our present occupant in the Oval Office makes clear.)

  • Ella

    Really, single women should not be using ART, especially not being infertile. She’ll probably file for welfare perks immediately after the delivery like some publicized cases in the US.

  • First, huzzah to this clinic! Fantastic policy, and it sounds like they’re sticking to their guns, and not backing down to this liberal dimwit woman who wants to inject herself with some diversity.

    Second, “They were not infertile but had hoped to use non-Caucasian sperm.” This bit is absolutely, utterly revolting… I don’t know this couple, and hate is a strong word, but I have no reservations in saying I loathe, despise, and hate them, and would have not the tiniest flicker of sympathy if they were to be visited by a creeping black in the night, with the all too typical rape, torture, and murder which seems to follow.

    They deserve to understand how sick they are before they die. Able to have beautiful white children, but instead they WANT to wipe out their own genetic line. I say give them the colored child they want, with the hopes it leads to their demise.

    Utterly disgusting…

  • Ashley Johnson

    Children that come from a white person and a black person could suffer from low IQ. The average white IQ in America is 100, but the average black IQ is 85 and most black people like 88% have a low IQ.

    • The average IQ in the USA is 100, and this expressly includes black and brown dimwits. The feds tested me while I was locked up, and I scored 152.

      • newscomments70

        That doesn’t surprise me. I have a suggestion for a job you could do at home…perhaps computer programming. You could invent some kind of app as well, some apps go viral.

  • Ed

    The clinic has disavowed the policy and says the doctor was talking about himself.

    I wish folks wouldn’t wilt in the face of stupid Internet outrage.

  • “While many people do want children who will look like them, she said she
    is less concerned with the colour of her potential child’s skin than
    the demeanour, personality and health history it might inherit from its
    biological father.”

    So, she is not the slightest bit bothered how maladjusted and disjointed this child would be, she is not concerned at the potential health problems that might be inherited (and possibly hard to find a matching donor for) and she is not bothered about the potential demeanour or personality it might have.

    In which case, she is purely selfish and not mother material at all. The option should be denied to her altogether.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      No, she has been lied to her whole life and mistakenly believes that ‘the colour of her potential child’s skin’ and ‘demeanour, personality and health history’ are not correlated at all.

      Given what she believes, her motivations are not as abhorrent as you make them out to be.

      Perhaps our ‘water cooler activism’ should involve discussions of medical research about genetic health differences between the races?

      • I suspected that she would have heard the case against her decision via the clinic, in which case I would think her motivations are what I said, along with generally trying to be holier-than-thou / sanctimonous about these kinds of positions “in this day and age”…… If she has not been told, then fair enough, she is not making a judgement with all the angles being presented.

        • Usually Much Calmer

          Thanks for the reply, BA. I wonder how likely it is that they told her in plain terms the whole truth about race and the implications of race mixing.

          Perhaps all she was exposed to in her denial was blabitty blah like “a child of an ethnic background should have the ability to be able to identify with their ethnic roots.”

          Everyone under 50 has been lied to consistently for their entire lives.

          I’d rather light a candle than curse those who cannot yet see.

  • Erasmus

    Let me guess: This Catherine so desperate to have a baby with a flat nose, nappy hair and a room temperature IQ, who’ll one day try to murder her while she sleeps, is a fat, greasy-haired white woman.

    • Paleoconn

      Not always, Erasmus. I see quite a few good-looking women with black or other NAM guys all the time. The other day, I saw one being dropped off with her caramel kid by the black father, who barely acknowledged the kid’s waving as he sped away, perhaps on his way to impregnate another deluded White woman.

      The thing is these mulatto kids are discriminated against by blacks much more than by Whites.

  • Jack Burton

    “The Alberta Human Rights Commission upheld the policy after a white couple brought a complaint against the clinic about five years ago, Greene said.

    They were not infertile but had hoped to use non-Caucasian sperm. “Our psychologist evaluated them and really didn’t see why a couple that is not infertile should be choosing sperm donors they have no cultural relationship with.””

    These types of whites should be sterilized immediately.

  • TL2014

    Where do we even start…

  • Dale McNamee

    I guess that “racial diversity” isn’t desirable in some cases…

  • Mark Hillyard

    I personally know of a half Filipino/White kid who had a very hard time with the fact he was a mixed bred. We treated him no different but he told me that it really bothered him.
    Just saying because it’s a real thing. He’s a relative.

  • WR_the_realist

    Yes, I have to concede the lefties are right on some issues. Like that stupid Iraq war. Unfortunately the lefties seem happy to let Obama have whatever wars he wants.

  • kjh64

    No, because these are grown women, not kids. They’re just deluded.

  • M&S

    Momma wannabe thinks in terms of ‘owning’ baby. Like Paris Hilton owns a Chihuahua.
    Bad Sign.
    Momma waits until 38 when her body has accumulated numerous environmental toxins and long ago ovulated it’s best egg to start ‘getting those feelings’ as a single woman who doesn’t think dad is essential to the raising of a brat into a human being.
    Really Bad Sign.
    Women don’t want what they have, they don’t know (or refuse to say) what they really want because I think it would be revealed that they want the destruction of our species or at least their role within it.
    Yet for all this, women follow a flat curve of around IQ 95-98, 3-4 points behind the male norm and without nearly as much up-curve distribution, Gaussian or stochastic.
    And driven be all these uncertainties, we are told we must elevate them to high social authority and ignore the simple reproductive and workforce demographics effects of being led by left curve leaders whose power lies in selective accommodation of patriarchal social misfits (or they wouldn’t need to be here) from other race groups as sabotage of our own, _even when_ they are already in power here.
    It’s a recipe for disaster.
    And perhaps the worst part of it lies in the sad desire to avoid ‘designer babies’ as though Nature has done _such a good job_ with random assortation in-group or gene flow between them.
    Never mind that if we all had 125 IQs as a baseline for homo sapiens (and yes, I know how the system works but let’s stop grading on a curve and use today’s established norms for a moment), none of us would be as apt to see the world as a victim entitlement zone or predators paradise.
    Idiots and their genes, soon parted. Species and their future, soon crushed.

  • Paleoconn

    Typical that it is self-righteous Whites doing the complaining. Most blacks and other minorities sensibly stay among their own kind. See Ali, Muhammad.

    That law professor is a dummy. It isn’t skin color that determines culture. It is race. Skin color is but one trait of race differences.

  • Paleoconn

    I admire this Dr. Greene. He speaks forthrightly and doesn’t duck the questions. This is not a cowed liberal. He actually puts the questions back to these Whites. ‘Why would you want to do this in the first place?’

  • Bardon Kaldian

    Ultimately Catherine’s family may never involve biological children. At 38, she hasn’t yet ruled out returning to the clinic to continue her IVF, but her experience has made her reconsider whether she really needs to have a child of her own.
    ****************************************

    Good. That’s all I needed to know.

  • RisingReich

    You obviously are determined to not get it.

  • none of your business

    “A friend of mine just went through this process and used the donor that I would have picked.”
    So she and her friend can have half sibs. My opinion is that she is a plant for a Canadian SPLC ACLU type organization that wants a lawsuit and some nefarious outcome.

  • none of your business

    I agree with bigone4yu. I think she is either a plant for some civil rights organization or she wants a black child so she can spend the next 25 years suing and carrying on about discrimination. She probably won’t accept an asian or indian(American) donor either as asian and american indian White mixes often end up looking mostly White.
    So she wants a black child so she can raise it in Calgary and sue everybody in sight because her black kid is not treated like royalty.
    Remember that rural New Hampshire White woman about 5 years ago? She adopted a black girl. When the child’s hair began to grow the Mother became a professional complainer about the problems of White Mothers dealing with black girl’s hair. She went on and on complaining there were no black hair dressers in her small town. She was outraged the adoption agency did not supply her with a black hairdresser. She filed several discrimination complaints with the school district as well. The poor kid was only 5 when the woman was last heard from.

  • Pascal Caillette

    obviously off her head