Scripps National Spelling Bee Draws Racially Charged Comments After Indian Americans Win Again

Lindsey Bever, Washington Post, May 30, 2014

For the first time in more than 50 years, two young wordsmiths were declared co-champions of the Scripps National Spelling Bee on Thursday night. However, some on social media seemed more preoccupied with their heritage than their way with words.

Sriram Hathwar, 14, of Painted Post, N.Y., and Ansun Sujoe, 13, of Fort Worth, Tex., shared the win after almost exhausting the 25 designated words in the final round.

Winners

Both boys are Indian American. In fact, the past eight winners and 13 of the past 17 have been of Indian descent, a run that began in 1999, the Associated Press reported.

The fact was seemingly too much for some on social media—who tweeted, for example, “Where are our American kids?”

There’s more where those came from.

Sriram is from Painted Post, a village in Steuben County, N.Y. He’s an eighth-grader at Corning’s Alternative School for Math and Science. He was the only one with a perfect score from written tests and one of the few contestants who did not write out words on his hand or arm before spelling them. {snip}

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Ansun is from Euless, a suburb outside Fort Worth, where he is a student at Bethesda Christian School. He plays piano, guitar and bassoon. He likes chess, programming robots and volunteering in nursing homes. {snip}

Last year’s winner, Arvind Mahankali, was the sixth Indian American in a row to win the bee. And of this year’s 281 spellers, almost a quarter had names pointing to South Asian origins, Reuters reported. {snip}

“I don’t think there’s any secret or anything innate in Indian kids winning spelling bees. I don’t think there’s a spelling gene,” said Nupur Lala, who started the South Asian streak in 1999, according to Reuters. {snip}

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  • TruthBeTold

    Blacks win marathons. Indians win spelling bees. Whites create and advance civilization.

    • r j p

      negroes and hispanics destroy housing and neighborhoods.

      • Jesse_from_Sweden

        As someone on AmRen said earlier:

        Whites innovate, asians replicate, hispanics populate, africans terminate and arabs detonate.

        • JMorphy88

          And Jews educate to miscegenate

    • Jesse James

      I agree, let’s give those little brown dudes and dudettes a break, they do rule at spelling. It is a tedious pursuit and they are welcome to it. Real American’s take joy in spelling the same word half a dozen ways, read the Journals of Lewis and Clark.

      • propagandaoftruth

        Yeah, I love my Folk and my civilization, but Englilsh spelling is dyslexifying…lol…
        Have fun with that lil brown dudes. Good fer u!

        • JP Rushton

          The rules of English and it’s spelling need a major revamp.

          Spanish is a great language for this reason. The rules and spelling are consistent and easy.

    • propagandaoftruth

      Yeah, imagine if blacks dominated spelling bees the way they now dominate “debating”!

      Iz beez ejipshun.

      Brilliant!

      • Jesse James

        Maybe they will start letting the blacks win in the same way they let them run wild at those national debating competitions. Time to start keeping spelling real.

        • Fathercoughlin

          I’d love to see that. “OK Quantavious spell ‘lachrymose’.” ” OK. Here I go:Da black man uh huh uh huh white supremacy uh huh uh hu hoo hoo da nigga cannot sustain hoo hoo da body hoo hoo yowza yeah yeah…” Crowd stands and applauds. “Excellent! Excellent you win Quantavious!”

        • ElComadreja

          Blacks might have a shot if they kept the words to four letters or less.

  • Rhialto

    This article ignores the important issue: the lack of African minorities winning. The lame excuse that Blacks can’t spell is Racist. Blacks can’t debate, but they are debate champions. Racist rules must be eliminated so that Ebonic spellings can flourish.

    • TheAntidote

      Correct. No one seems to be concerned that “we have to close the spelling bee gap between Indian and Negro children”. Goes to show that Negroes and dwills are white obsessed.

  • I used to care about all these bees, spelling and geography and math and what not.

    Then I turned 12, and came to the conclusion that it really serves no purpose neither to myself nor society if I knew how to spell every word in the dictionary.

    Desi kids win spelling bees. So what? Is India not a dump and a hovel for it?

    • Tim_in_Indiana

      I have to agree with you. I participated in a regional spelling bee when I was about 12 and I did pretty well, but I turned my attention to other, seemingly more important, things after that.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        Certain minority groups live just to outdo whites in whatever endeavors they can. I find it pretty sad. Good for them…..they have earned it due to extra hard work and memorization, but it doesn’t mean they are masters in these actual fields compared to whites by any means. It is just like the Chinese when it comes to math and science. I will hear people talk about how the Chinese are number 1 in math and science based on test scores. Really? I think we should be measuring that based who has actually produced the most in those two fields.

        • Sheik Yerbouti

          They replicate well. It’s why they were able to dominate our IT industry. Most Americans in IT want to advance but also want freedom. Most Indians are content to do the same thing each and every day. But they see freedom in very different terms.

          Of course, there is always the slimmest chance this was all rigged!

          • SentryattheGate

            India is about to be the largest group of people in the world, since China has had the one-child policy. Yet, even with India’s booming economy 10% growth/year, 2/3rds of them have no indoor plumbing! Can you imagine a country of 1.7 billion people, 2/3rds of which have no toilets! Let them get their place in order and slow their birthrate before they come take our place!

          • Sheik Yerbouti

            I have to respect their cohesive, intentional communities. West Houston and Northeast Atlanta have become Indian colonies. Schools are a prime target. I wonder if they can reform the APS? Not likely.

          • SentryattheGate

            Indian colonies? Reminds me of the late Senator Eugene McCarthy’s book apologizing for his role, with Ted Kennedy in opening up the US to Third World immigration: “A COLONY of the World, the USA Today, A Senior statesman warns his Countrymen”. In my small city, the Indians built an Indian Cultural Center, where I’ve attended a couple events; the program was so arrogant, ridiculing and looking down their noses at the land that took them in!

          • Sheik Yerbouti

            Yes, they are horrible about that. They treat Americans like the lowest caste of their homeland. And yes, I see them as colonies. This is how I think white Americans should handle things as well. Some established white colonies in the US. Since America is history and the US has become an international corporate whore, it’s unlikely we will ever see a cohesive America ever again.

            White Americans can’t be expected to pack off to the PNW or Appalachia en masse. But organizing into colonies as the Indian, Chinese, Mexican, Honduran and Russian people in the US have done, seems to be one of few options left for white people.

  • Medizin

    Were more difficult words given to Whites? Fixed? I’m suspicious of everything!

  • IstvanIN

    I don’t want ANY Hindus here, BUT, if they won fair and square, they won.

    • JohnEngelman

      the average IQ of Indian immigrants to the US is an Ashkenazi Jewish-like 112. Ramanujan was assessed by G.H. Hardy, no lightweight himself, as the most gifted mathematician of his age. Going back further in time, India has a pretty stunning religious, linguistic, mathematical, and philosophical heritage. Only a continuous stream of very high IQ individuals could have both created and sustained such a heritage.

      • Oil Can Harry

        The Indians in the US are the best and brightest. The ones still there who live in rural areas are far less impressive.

        http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/30/world/asia/india-gang-rape/

        • JohnEngelman

          What you say is true.

        • Jacobite2

          Indians here may be the best and brightest, but they are not Americans. Note the amazing success the non-American Gramscians have had in convincing a large percentage of Americans that ‘Americans’ do not even exist.

          • Sick of it

            To admit to the existence of an American ethnicity would be the death of the old “we are all immigrants” trope.

          • Frank Morris

            Oh thank God!

            I admit to an American Ethnicity!

          • ElComadreja

            I’ll second that.

          • Jacobite2

            Well, ‘we’ were all immigrants from NW Europe.

          • Sick of it

            I don’t know about you, but most of my family lines have been here since the 17th and 18th centuries.

          • Jacobite2

            And most likely they were immigrants from NW Europe (or Africa?). The Amerinds are the only truly indigenous American people. The people known as ‘Americans’ were the Colonists of the 17th and 18th centuries, who originated in NW Europe.

          • SentryattheGate

            And some of the Amerinds were of European descent; the Solutreans who ended up in N.America on ice floes during the mini Ice Age , tens of thousands ago. More data is being discovered to support this thesis.

          • Jacobite2

            What does the DNA say? That never lies.

          • Mainlander

            Actually, the Amerindians came over the land bridge from Asia. Not indigenous.

          • SentryattheGate

            Europeans, esp. N & W European immigrants are the ones who built America to it’s status. They created the “party” (the American standard of living) that other immigrants wanted to crash and were allowed to since 1965!

          • Jacobite2

            Weeeell…. Americans welcomed emigrees from NW Europe without much hassle always. It wasn’t until the 1880s that masses of people from outside the ‘American-origin’ areas of Europe started showing up. By about 1922, we stopped putting up with the alien flood, and enacted the modern immigration laws, with quotas on immigration from every country (NW Europe being the heavy favorite) and that prevailed until Fat Boy lied his huge behind off about the effects of his bogus 1965 ‘reform bill.’ 1965 seems to have been a record year for lying about legislation (including the implementation of the Second Reconstruction with the Voting Rights Act). As long as we keep on allowing Leftists to live in this country, we will continue losing.

        • SentryattheGate

          If Indians cared about their fellow Indian, then give the lower castes a chance; provide them with toilets, or give them a chance to immigrate, instead of the Brahim caste, top of their dung heap!

          • Traveler

            Do you think before saying? Or is that hard? India has quotas for lower castes to the tune of 50% in education & govt. jobs. Brahmins constitute a very small fraction of Indians coming to the US today, hence your low quality IT workers. You can’t be complaining about the lower IQ of Indians (which by the way is the contribution of lower castes) & then play the opposite tune complaining lower castes are ignored. Pick one or be a hypocrite.

          • SentryattheGate

            I did not mention Indian IQ at all. My complaint is that they are about to be the world’s most populous group, and that they are coming here! Just because we (the First World) have low birthrates shouldn’t entitle others to come take our place! That India has quotas for lower castes is news to me; I think that’s appropriate, although usually I would not be in favor of quotas.

          • Traveler

            Right, I did. I am okay if Americans close their doors. No issues here. But I also understand people (of all stripes) have set out seeking greener pastures all through human history. That won’t change. Birth rates among various ethnicities in India are not the same. Brahmins as a group are close to falling below the water line, most have 2 kids. At least one Brahmin sub-group is already dying out due to low reproduction rates and intermarrying. To give you a perspective on quotas – a Brahmin student standing at 2000 among 100k won’t get admission but some lower castes who just appear for exam will. At one point lower caste students who score less than zero( wrong answers were penalized) had to be given admissions and eventually the board did away with the penalty approach because it was embarrassing all around. I don’t blame many lower castes/tribes. I personally sympathize with their plight. Caste wise there are 3 main categories – upper, middle , lower. Middle castes are the landed castes & these are the ones I despise to some extent because they indulge in disgusting violence. These are the ones who hold the lower castes to their state. Anyway, world always had issues, it always will. Any aberration is just that.

      • So CAL Snowman

        Going further back in time, at one point India was populated by Aryan peoples. So yes at one point in time India was a magnificent civilization with incredible architecture. The stunning religious, linguistic, mathematical, and philosophical heritage to which you refer was the heritage of the Aryan peoples of India, NOT the brown dot heads.

        *Question – Why don’t those super smart, superior than the White man, yellow Asians win all of these spelling bees? Why don’t the superior than the White man, Ashkenazi jews win all of these spelling bees?

        • CourtneyfromAlabama

          This is true. All this aside, I have noticed there is a modern movement to elevate the achievements of Ancient India just like for Ancient China, Islamic Civilization, the Mayans, etc…. It seems that anything developed by whites has now been linked to some Ancient discovery by a nonwhite who did so “thousands of years earlier”. It has caused me to be suspicious about some of the claims about just how advanced Ancient India was (even though we know the people there were white,….modern historians and Indians themselves deny it).

          • Sick of it

            Don’t ever believe that nonwhites did something thousands of years ago. That’s not even logical, let alone factual.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I agree. That was the main point I was trying to convey in my above post. In fact, it has been one of my biggest soap boxes ever since I have started posting on here.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        Going back further in time, India has a pretty stunning religious, linguistic, mathematical, and philosophical heritage. Only a continuous stream of very high IQ individuals could have both created and sustained such a heritage.

        Those are the achievements of the Aryan elite that ruled over India’s racially Australoid, Dravidian-speaking masses. They were originally Caucasoid invaders from Central Asia and southern Russia. The Aryan upper classes eventually disappeared from the pages of history because of extensive intermarriage with the inferior, dark-skinned inhabitants.

        • Sick of it

          There were white peoples in the region who predated the Aryans as well. Black savages could not have created a civilization sharing much in common with ancient Sumer.

          • dukem1

            On my 1st day of college…1st class…History 101…the prof stated :”When you talk about the beginning of civilization, you talk about Sumer.:

            Always remembered that.

        • JohnEngelman

          Indian civilization began with the Indus River Valley civilization. This is one of the three oldest civilizations in the world, the others being the Egyptian, and the Sumerian.

          The Indus River Valley civilization was founded by Dravidians. The Dravidians are dark skinned, and related to the aboriginal inhabitants of New Guinea and Australia.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            But that wasn’t the previous poster’s point. Everyone on here already knows that the Egyptian and Indus River Valley civilizations weren’t white (as in European), and we also know they were among the first civilizations. But “first” doesn’t always mean impressive when looking at actual achievements. The other poster was referring to the time period that came much later when India supposedly made a lot of great mathematical advancements.

            All this aside, as has been conveyed over and over in history books, the only reason those areas were “first” along with China (although some historians place European civilizations starting with the Minoans and therefore before China), was because they all had one thing in common: lush river valleys that attracted large populations of people…unlike cold and icy Europe at the time.

          • JohnEngelman

            Great civilizations receive inspiration from different sources, different cultures, and often from different races.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Again, nobody has denied that. That doesn’t mean that everyone comes up with unique ideas equally though.

          • JohnEngelman

            The races are not equal. White Gentiles are not the most intelligent.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Why do you keep saying this? Whites are the most intelligent race.

          • Gotta love the constant sales pitch here, jamming the meme that Jews are white 24/7/365. They’re absolutely not white and those that have mixed with whites to end up looking like Bar Rafaeli and Scarlett Johannson might be convincing facsimiles but the bit of them that Jews count as Jewish is not the white bits, but rather the Jewish bits. They’re semites, or Khazars perhaps, or beta-Israelis, but they ain’t white.

            Plus, as with most lies when you push them far enough you end up contradicting yourself and exposing your own falsehoods. This poster you reply to here keeps saying the races are not equal and that he believes in a genetic basis, a racial basis that is, for intelligence.

            He keeps saying Jews are white, but keeps saying they’re all 15 I.Q. points higher than actual whites (what he deftly refers to as white gentiles). How the hell can they be smarter than whites if they’re racially white themselves?

          • JohnEngelman

            Only if they are Ashkenazim.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            The Ashkenazim are neither white nor a separate race.

          • JohnEngelman

            By my definition of “white” they certainly are. What is not in doubt is that they have an average I! of 110 – 115. That is why they are so successful and prosperous.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            How can Jews be smarter than whites if they’re white? Hello?

          • JohnEngelman

            Ashkenazi Jews are more intelligent on the average than white Gentiles. The average Ashkenazi IQ is 112. The average for a white Gentile is 100.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            You didn’t answer the question.

            Again, there’s no such thing as a “white Gentile.” Jews aren’t white.

          • Bob Wallace

            But we created nearly everything, unlike parasites such as you and your kind.

          • JohnEngelman

            Who am I? What is my kind?

          • SentryattheGate

            I have read that when separated out from other Europeans, native Germans have an average IQ of 109.

          • JohnEngelman

            Who wrote that? David Duke?

          • SentryattheGate

            John, you present yourself to be such an authority! One can easily imagine you as being raised by a single mom, who treated you as if you were “God’s gift to mankind” and her little genius, resulting in a superiority complex!

          • JohnEngelman

            OK, big guy. Who wrote “that when separated out from other Europeans, native Germans have an average IQ of 109.”

          • SentryattheGate

            I’m pretty sure it was in an article on Amren.

          • JohnEngelman

            It was probably a comment left by someone who did not know what he was talking about.

            According to Richard Lynn, who has spoken at American Renaissance conferences, the five countries with the highest IQ averages are Oriental. Germany, Austria, and Italy tie for sixth place with averages of 102.

            “Professor Lynn’s extensive review of the literature indicates that Jews in the US have an average IQ of 110 compared to 100 for other Europeans. This would help account for their outstanding performance in a variety of fields. Though Jews are only about 0.2 percent of the world population, half the world’s chess grandmasters, for example, and 16 percent of Nobel Prize winners for science have been Jews.”

          • Jotun Hunter

            ok big guy – big john engelman guy – lets make a more practical examination. Lets make list of scientific and artistic exemplars from asia and germany, shall we? which list would be the more striking? can you even think of an asian mozart (lots of asians play mozart). Lets make it comprehensive, since you love fact checking so much. It must cover: scientific instruments, spaceflight, music, toys, transportation, ethics, sociology, philosophy, politics, chemistry, physics, medicine, military, mathematics, appliances, geology, education and printing, biology, genetics, astronomy, arts, archaeology, anatomy. You will notice i’ve given you the entirety of asia, as you will need it. It still will not compare to the list of german advances, I’m not even including all of europe or america, and you know this already. IQ scores do not account for everything, and even if they did asians do not score as high on the super genius level. You know this already.

          • JohnEngelman

            While you are looking to the past, I am looking forward to this, which was posted by SlizzardAjeosshi:

            I will answer your question to what is now currently the
            biggest Asian achievement.

            First let me put things in contest: I work for a financial
            group involved in private equity deals with several Chinese manufacturing companies. I’m not saying this to brag about what kind of hotshot I am, I’m just saying I may have the pulse of the situation a little bit.

            The area where currently North East Asia hold a world
            leadership so immense the West is not even perceived as a serious contender is robotics, with all the ancillary technologies attached to it (A.I., nano, innovative materials etc.)

            Japan used to be the world leader, now the dominant player
            is S. Korea from where 1 robot out of 6 in this world comes, Taiwan is also there while China is taking off rapidly.

            Robotics is on the cusp of pretty much redefining entire
            economic sectors: manufacturing, healthcare (Korean nanobot surgery is widely recognized as the best in the world for certain tumors), personal services, learning, logistics & transportation, entertainment, financial services etc.

            This is akin to a fourth industrial revolution the West is
            entirely missing. As i said every time i board a plane to Europe

            when I arrive I feel (even in the Northern rim) like all of
            a sudden I’ve been teleported to a black and white tv world.

            This giant leap forward has the purpose of keeping afloat
            the growth rate of countries with an aging and, in some cases, shrinking population (N. E. Asians have the lowest birthrate in the world) through a massive leap in robotic productivity.

          • Jotun Hunter

            all modern countries are in decline, and the more western they are the more decadent and luxurious and hidden from that decline. Growth, economic or otherwise, is currently not a sign of anything, as we hurtle towards environmental collapse (yet another reason to oppose immigration, high IQ or not).

            ‘Looking toward the future’ thereby dismissing the entirety of the past is … it’s not an adult argument, this should not need to be pointed out to you. The fact of the past completely guts your strange and childish idea that IQ scores and SATs and patents on useless items mean everything and prove our ‘inferiority’ as whites.

            1 robot out of 6? I don’t see robots in incredible use anywhere other than assembly lines, and even then they can never replace human skill. Are you talking about impractical non-starters like asimov? we don’t live in star wars.

          • Jotun Hunter

            I also have friends that live and work in korea and china – while it’s not all negative, overall their reports make the places sound like a joke. One was invovled in some building projects in korea, he said the system and the employer were so disorganized and utterly corrupt to the core that what they built was a dangerous disaster and they also only got half payment after a protracted adventure involving threats and so forth. China remains one of the least favourite stops of another friend who flies around asia inspecting sweat shops and so forth.

          • Medizin

            Lynn – 107-109
            Vinko Buj – 110
            Flynn – 111

          • JohnEngelman

            Document your assertions like I do.

          • Medizin

            Sources posted for you several times previously.

          • JohnEngelman

            Then it should be easy for you to post them again.

          • Medizin

            Others have provided sources as well. You should have noted it somewhere in your records for future reference.

          • JohnEngelman

            It is easy for me to document that Ashkenazi Jews are on the average the most intelligent and accomplished racial group in the world. I love to do it. Here I go again.

            ————

            Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data. They score 0.75 to 1.0 standard deviations above the general European average, corresponding to an IQ 112-115. This has been seen in many studies (Backman, 1972; Levinson, 1959; Romanoff, 1976), although a recent review concludes that the advantage is slightly less, only half a standard deviation Lynn (2004).

            This fact has social significance because IQ (as measured by IQ tests) is the best predictor we have of success in academic subjects and most jobs. Ashkenazi Jews are just as successful astheir tested IQ would predict, and they are hugely over represented in occupations and fields with the
            highest cognitive demands.

            During the 20th century, they made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US Nobel science prizes and 25% of the ACM Turing awards. They account for more than half of world chess champions.

            While the mean IQ difference between Ashkenazim and other northern Europeans may not seem large, such a small difference maps to a large difference in the proportion of the population with very high IQs (Crow, 2002).

            For example if the mean Ashkenazi IQ is 110 and the standard deviation is 15, then the number of northern Europeans with IQs greater than 140 should be 4 per thousand while 23 per thousand Ashkenazim should exceed the same threshold, a six fold difference.

            – Gregory Cochran, Jason Hardy, Henry Harpending, from “Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence”

            Department of Anthropology
            University of Utah
            Salt Lake City UT 84112 USA

            This is only one source, but there are many others. That the Ashkenazim is the most gifted race in existence is not controversial.

          • Medizin

            Everytime someone posts European IQ’s similar to Ashkenazim, you ask for sources. They give it to you. You will ask again in the future. Why didn’t you save it on your computer?

          • JohnEngelman

            There is no credible evidence anywhere that any European nation has IQ averages that begin to compare with those of Ashkenazi Jews.

          • Medizin

            “Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group for which there are reliable data. They score 0.75 to 1.0 standard deviations above the general European average, corresponding to an IQ 112-115.

            then the number of northern Europeans with IQs greater than 140 should be 4 per thousand while 23 per thousand Ashkenazim should exceed the same threshold, a six fold
            difference.”

            This is wrong. It does not include all Jews as one group,
            but all Europeans are used. The average IQ of Jews as a group is less than Europeans as a group.

            Here again, using Northern European countries, different ethnicities as a group, to Ashkenazim reeks of ‘deceptive’ tactics.

            The only ethical method is to compare Ashkenazim to ethnicities, such as Germans, English, and so on.

            How successful are Sephardim and Mizrahim with IQ’s in the low 90’s? You compare apples to oranges. It must be all Jews to all Europeans. Not one kind of Jew with all Europeans.

            Lynn’s IQ’s for Ashkenazim have been 108, 110, 115. German
            scores are 107, 109, 110, 111 from Lynn, Buj, and Flynn. During an interview, Lynn, himself, said he thought 115 was too high for Ashkenazim. The number of participants was too small and only that study resulted in 115. He thought it should be 108. From “reliable” sources.

            “Ashkenazi Jews are just as successful as their tested IQ would predict, and they are hugely over represented in occupations and fields with the highest cognitive demands.”

            What are those cognitive demands where Europeans have not equally demonstrated the same success…demands that required superior intelligence, honesty, ethics, not favoritism? Who do you think ran this country before many Jews began coming here in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s? Were Europeans sitting on their duffs waiting for Jews to save them?

            Germans are highly regarded in engineering, science, and medicine, but, one thing, they did not do in the U.S. was favor their own kind when promotions or jobs opened up. Germans have been successful through hard work and merit. That
            includes all Europeans.

            What about banking, Jews success story? Wells Fargo, one of the Big Four banks, was named in February 2014, the WORLD’S most valuable bank brand for the 2nd year running in The Banker and Brand Finance study of the top 500 banking brands. CEO, John Stumpf, since 2007, German ancestry.

            Fields where Jews excel? Entertainment? Hollywood makes biased movies that contributed to the destruction of American tradition, patriotism, religion, morality and culture. The media? Leftist propaganda. Education? Marxist propaganda. Banking? The 2008 financial fiasco. Business? AIPAC Jewish lobby promotes millions of non-White immigrants and refugees for U.S. companies. Civil Rights? Behind removal of Christian symbols and holiday salutations, ACLU, ADL, SPLC, all with negative reputations. Should I go on?

            I admit, Ashkenazim have contributed some great things, but, comparing accomplishments, I could list thousands more European than Jewish. The British created and other Europeans, such as a large number of Germans, built the United States, the most successful country in the world. Can you honestly compare that to chess players and Nobel Prizes?

          • JohnEngelman

            Lynn’s IQ’s for Ashkenazim have been 108, 110, 115. German
            scores are 107, 109, 110, 111 from Lynn, Buj, and Flynn.

            – Medizin

            Document your assertions like I do. David Duke does not count.

          • JohnEngelman

            The average IQ of Jews as a group is less than Europeans as a group.

            – Medizin

            The average for Ashkenazi Jews is at least 110. No nation has an average that high. Ashkenazi Jews are 80 percent of all Jews. The average for Ladino Jews is 100, as is the average for Europeans as a group.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            The Indus Valley civilization was really a multiracial civilization consisting of Mediterranean Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Australoid racial types. It was a socially and racially stratified society, with Mediterraneans on top and Australoids on the very bottom. Here’s what subcon. archaeologist S.S. Sarkar has to say about Caucasoid infiltration of the IVC:

            The dolichocephals of the Indus Valley, showing a cranial index of 71, are an extension of the Tape Hissar people represented during periods I and II at the latter side. During the III period of Tape Hissar mesocephals, probably of ancient Scythian origin, arrived from Ukraine and Central Russia. They probably entered India almost contemporaneously or afterwards. It is probable that the mesocephals migrated in different waves. The last wave shows weak traces of brachycephaly, which is rare in the Indus Valley. An autochthonous hyperdolichocranial element represented by the Veddid or Australoid ethnic strain appears to be at the base of the Indus Valley people.

          • Jesse James

            I love history in general, especially reading about the ebb and flow of different cultures and nations. What really matters though is not who was first, or who is the smartest, or the most fit to rule. No what really matters is who is most like me. I don’t give a damn if white Southerners are the dumbest, most backwards, least culturally productive people on the planet – they are MY people. There are a lot of other people in the world that I respect and would even fight to defend but the central focus of my loyalty is to kith and kin.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Yep… the bottom line is always RACE. Nothing else matters in the end.

          • Sick of it

            Amazing achievements…that would have been impossible for people with an IQ of 85, let alone a 62 IQ.

        • Peter Connor

          Yes, the lower castes in India average about 80 IQ.

          • Jotun Hunter

            the whiter you are the higher your caste – their golden age was no doubt the result of their ancient aryan occupation. I strongly suspect that accounts for the golden ages of large parts of east.

      • Jacobite2

        India is a great and old civilization. Indians should stay there and enjoy it. They do, I believe, have mathematics in India.

        • bilderbuster

          Then they can have spelling bees there too.

          • dukem1

            Indian spelling bee:
            “Spell the name of the person standing next to you, please.”

      • Ron Cheaters

        I worked for one for a year. I called him the Bombay Welchman, because he spoke with an english accent.

        He was THE most racist person I’ve met, including all of you here. He was also diligent, organized, fair and generous person outside of my race that I’ve ever worked for.

        We had many, many arguments that sometimes became racial. Despite that we had a respect because I would not be intimidated.

        However, I always knew and told him as much that “you want me to leave so you can bring in your friends”

        Which is what happened. But he gave me great references and a sweet bonus when I moved on.

        But yeah, you can count the whites on one hand in the place, 95% from India, a few asians.. 0 blacks.

        • Jotun Hunter

          there is an indian couple across the road, and the daughter is not allowed to bring her white bf into the house, that’s how racist they are – irionic considering how grateful they should be for his sacrifice to their largely mongrelized bloodline.

    • Jacobite2

      Yes, this is precisely why peoples avoid accepting large numbers of ‘others’ in their countries. In American we have Jews and Asians succeeding everywhere. At the same time we have Blacks and Mexicans. None of them are Americans (i.e., NW Europeans), who should be running things in America, one would think. I’ll bet they have spelling bees in India for them to win.

  • DaveMed

    I may get flak for this, but I think that it’s utterly embarrassing that a European-American kid did not win an English spelling bee.

    I’ve tried to come up with excuses, but I can’t find any.

    I know that the 3rd place winner (or 2nd place, since the first two tied) was White, but 2/3 were Indian? Something wrong, here.

    • willbest

      As a parent I would rather my kid does something that enhances his/her social skills or creativity.

    • tlk244182

      No flak from me. I’m embarrassed that when we (Whites) lose, we excuse ourselves by saying the fight wasn’t important. That’s not how the West was won. It eats away at me that Jews, Indians, or Chinese can beat us at anything. This kind of excuse- making, it seems to me, goes at least part of the way to explaining how we let these colored people gain the upper hand. And it does not bode well for our prospects in the coming racial Armageddon. (Spelled “Armageddon” wrong three times!) The last thing we should be doing is underestimating the people who are trying to kill us.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        “It eats away at me that Jews, Indians, or Chinese can beat us at anything.”

        I partially agree with your overall point, but your above statement I quoted is a bit of a stretch.

        Have the Indians and Chinese beaten whites at coming up with unique ideas in Space Exploration?

        When it comes to any field related to science and math have the Indians and Chinese ever beaten us in coming up with unique ideas?

        Have they beaten whites in making their own nations attractive enough for their best and brightest?

        Have they beaten whites in Nobel Prizes?

        In regards to sports that whites are top notch at, Indians have hardly made an appearance at neither the Winter or Summer Olympics, while the Chinese have only come in first place for ONE Summer Olympics in all of history, mainly by only being good at 3 or 4 sports, and meanwhile they continue to be mediocre at the Winter Olympics.

        Again, I get part of what you are saying, but I don’t think it is true that they can just naturally beat us at whatever they wish.

    • Jotun Hunter

      well…ultimately a spelling bee is pretty useless. It requires a lot of work – the kids of these indian immigrants are notoriously pushed, simillar to the fishhead ‘tiger moms’. It’s typical of the kind of empty prestige that is ultimately meaningless that asians can be into.

  • The US gets the creme de la creme of the Hindus. These are the upper crust of India.

    If it’s any consolation, at the university, my Mexican professor colleagues spent their days BSing in the hallways and wasting time as best they could, but the Hindus kept their noses to the grindstones. However, they were the WORST professors and were HATED by the students, no matter their work habits. They just can’t relate to American or even Mexican students. The two ugly geeks in the picture may know how to spell, but like Elliot Rodger, they won’t be obtaining white girlfriends.

    • LHathaway

      They wont obtain white girlfriends? There is no other reason they’ve been imported here. . .

      • Fathercoughlin

        White men will be getting Indian girls far easier than Indians gwtting white girls. But given the current QUALITY of the American white woman…should they even WANT one for anything more than do do do…

        • CourtneyfromAlabama

          Under another post you insulted me for being “weak” and a “sissy”, yet those are both qualities that men in this movement usually praise in women, as they should, as opposed to us being tough feminists.

          How do you think a white woman is supposed to act? I am confused.

      • dukem1

        Keep ’em away from UCSB!!!

    • Jesse James

      I don’t really see the Indian guys chasing white women. I think they prefer their own women, rightfully so, and they have strong families that expect them to maintain family standards and marry suitable Indian women.

      • Traveler

        True, largely due to cultural ties. Best of the Indians (looks, intelligence wise) go after Indians most of the time from what I’ve seen. There are always exceptions.

  • John Ambrose

    These days I completely block out any news about spelling bees because I know it’ll almost always involve some Hindu with a bizarre name. And what exactly is it with all these Indians winning spelling bees anyway? Do they have some special biological advantage when it comes to rote memorization the same way blacks do when it comes to sprinting? I’m sure in India it would be considered “bizarre” and “unnatural” for their champions in spelling bees (if they have them) to be a bunch of pasty-faced white kids (even though we’re talking about a European language after all).

  • JDInSanD

    All the words I’ve read by Twain, Dickens, Steinbeck, Jefferson, Heinlein, Dan Brown and Franklin were spelled correctly. Can’t say I’ve read that great Indian American novel yet but I’ll get back to you when these two “spellers” apply their skills.

    Asians are great at doing our math too but I haven’t seen them apply it to any original invention or problem lately.

    • baldowl

      They learn. They mimic. They do not improve or innovate.

    • willbest

      Spelling is what editors are for

    • expitch

      Jefferson said that being able to spell a word only one way shows a serious lack of imagination.

  • Caucasoid88

    Spell phytophilous.

    W-E–B-E-E-Z–O-P-P-R-E-S-S-E-D–B-Y–W-H-I-T-E-Y

    And we’ve got a winner!

    • dd121

      I listened to part of their utube debate. It was pure Bantu gibberish.

      • Katherine McChesney

        I couldn’t understand a word they were saying.

        • dd121

          But you have to concede they were being authentic.

  • MekongDelta69

    “Where are our American kids?” is considered ‘racially charged’ by Lindsey Bever of the WaPo?!?

    Leftists are so incredibly thin-skinned. Always be lookin’ fuh dat ‘ray-cisum.’

  • LHathaway

    So, there are times when a conversation on race is not desperately needed? Is it a matter of aesthetics, social convention and ethics? Or is it simply a matter of who is doing the speaking? Some voices are welcome to speak out and some voice are most unwelcome to speak?

    Call whites dumb but at least we make accurate movies. When they envisioned the Planet of the Apes movie the humans in them weren’t able to speak

  • dd121

    Good for them. I’m all for the rewards of hard work. I hope they have success in college and achieve great things. Isn’t that what we’re all for here on AmRen? Think negroes will take the hint?

    • Fathercoughlin

      No NOT good for them. They dont belong here and they dont deserve to have OUR grandchildrens tax dollars given to them so the lousy SOB’s can become rich. I hope they get beset by homesickness and a longing to eat with their fingers and GET THE HELL O-U-T!!

      • dd121

        I see what you mean there.

  • Freedoooom

    Indians and Asians are test takers. Google has 30% Asian employees, which is over representative, but they don’t create.

    Look at Google I/O. Rarely are any of their speakers Asian, especially the project managers. Then even look at Facebook. Myspace was the catalyst but people wanted a cleaner design and facebook ended up filling that niche.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Why do Indians always win these things? Is it just a niche they have carved for themselves along with owning hotels and gas stations?

    • Ahnenerbe ᛟ

      from the age of 4 their parents have trained them to be spelling monkeys. It’s not like they play sports or anything else.

      • IstvanIN

        Yeah, cause basketball is sooo important.

        • Ahnenerbe ᛟ

          I think the best sport Indians can play is cricket. Not to many cricket matches going on in America

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Over where I live, we call them filthy, smelly “pakis.”

          • IstvanIN

            Cricket isn’t important either.

          • tlk244182

            “Too,” for Pete’s sake, not “to!” Or was that a joke?

          • Ahnenerbe ᛟ

            Hey you’re right, I should have wrote too. Feel free to follow me around on the comment sections and be my proofreader. The pay is nothing to zero and I work odd hours. Too-da-loo.

        • willbest

          About as important as being able to spell obscure words, and much more likely to get you laid.

          • IstvanIN

            Thank goodness there were girls who appreciated a good guy more than just some monkey who could “shoot hoops” when I was young.

        • Jesse James

          Sports or at least physical exercise is important to balanced development. Mind-body-spirit all require cultivation and maintenance throughout your lifetime.

    • Fathercoughlin

      Stop trying to be so respectful,OK? You sound weak like a sissy.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        “You sound weak like a sissy”.

        I am a woman, so it fits for me to be a weak sissy. I don’t know how to act any different.

        “Sissy” is only an insult if you are speaking to a man. Your comment is rather odd, especially for this site.

  • Sharps Rifle

    It’s very simple, really: The Indian kids work their butts off. Many white parents don’t insist that their kids learn proper spelling or grammar, and that shows in the quality of their school work. Spelling and writing take time and practice to learn, but the time the white kids could be spending on improving their academic skills (and long-term chances for economic success) they instead spend playing video games, soccer, watching American Idle (yes, I spelled it that way intentionally), or aping negro behavior. If the parents would act like parents, and stop being their kids’ friends, maybe, JUST MAYBE, the white kids would start to do better in school.
    As for negro kids…well, what can you do with a 70 IQ? Not much.

    • Sick of it

      Indian parents beat their children if the children make mistakes re: academics. I knew such a boy as a child and honestly felt sorry for him.

      • richard garyson

        Not all Indians. I have a relative who married an Indian doctor, and they don’t even spank. They do enroll them in Kumon, and that makes quite a difference. They have wonderful children.

      • Traveler

        I got the belt quite a few times for silly things like playing an extra hour or picking up a fight at school or even scoring less than my usual. I didn’t like my dad for that. I won’t beat my kid like my dad did but real world is tough, a bit of spanking won’t be harmful. Westerners of current generation are too touchy about every little thing. Good for you, if it works.

        • Sick of it

          I said beating, not spanking.

    • MBlanc46

      Spelling and grammar are patriarchal. By not being good at them, you’re opposing the patriarchy.

  • richard garyson

    Perhaps Indians swarm our spelling bees, because they gain expertise spelling out the aglicization of their names? Seriously, good for these kids. I admire the way Indians (and Asians) push their kids to succeed. Perhaps if we were not so obsessed with promoting the underdog and cutting education of our gifted kids, we would see more whites in these contests….

  • dukem1

    Howcum I get moderated out of the discussion? Thought I had a pithy, if not witty take on this news item….I like to think I’m a regular guy agog at the state of affairs abroad in the land….should I express more hate or less hate? I ain’t a hater…I’m a love guy!

    • Ahnenerbe ᛟ

      I get moderated all the time, I’m surprised I haven’t been blacklisted from this site too. There is no real Freedom of Speech. it’s not like I type violence or write recipes from the anarchists cookbook or anything like that. I just hate jews

  • RisingReich

    We have much bigger fish to fry.

  • WR_the_realist

    I don’t know why Indian Americans do so well in spelling bees but I see nothing wrong with that. It’s the minorities that keep failing, not the ones that succeed, which cause the problems.

    BTW, we’ve had so much immigration from the subcontinent that we must now make a careful distinction between Indian Americans and American Indians.

  • MBlanc46

    They’re not Indian Americans. They’re Indians. Wherever in the world Indians have gone, they’re remained Indians. They’ve been in some places (Trinidad, e.g.) for a full century, and they’re still Indians.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      They’re also unable to build stable, functioning societies. In fact, any society with a large percentage of subcontinental Indians is always a third world failure.

      • MBlanc46

        They just don’t get Western standards. If you’ve ever seen any of their books, you’d know what I mean. My wife works for a large reference publisher. Her delightful employer tried to outsource some editorial work to India, but they had to bring it back. The Indians just couldn’t comprehend what was required of them.

        • IstvanIN

          I work with some Indians and they are honest about the corruption and laziness of their people back in India.

          • MBlanc46

            My best friend is a systems guy who has worked with a lot of them. His assessment: They think differently.

          • benvad

            They’re the first ones to admit it out loud. I also PRC Chinese and they’ll deny any perceived slight against their country. Even though they know it’s true!

            Then we wonder why so many “American/Canadian” Chinese
            have been caught on espionage charges? They have a one way loyalty to the Han people, that is something I came to realize living amongst Japanese as a minority.

            It never dawned on me that people thought like this. I guess that’s when my liberal tendencies evaporated.

      • JohnEngelman

        Voice of America July 30, 2012

        Hindu-Americans have the highest socioeconomic levels among all religions in the United States, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion and Public Life…

        Eighty-five percent of Hindu-Americans are college graduates, and 57 percent have some postgraduate education, which is nearly five times the national average.

        Education levels largely correlate to income, and there as well, Hindus rank at the top of the list…

        According to the study, 48 percent of Hindu-American households have an income of $100,000 or more, and 70 percent make at least $75,000.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          This is called a selective immigration policy. If you import a large number of people with college degrees, you end up with a large number of people with college degrees. It doesn’t change the fact that Hindus have never been able to build or maintain a first world civilization of their own.

          • JohnEngelman

            The Indus River Valley civilization was one of the three oldest in the world. Currently India is the most populous democracy in the world. India is the birthplace of two of the world’s great religions. I expect great things of that country.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            The Indus Valley civilization was founded by Caucasoid invaders. Buddhism and Hinduism are the original religions of the Aryan people, not subcontinental Indians. The average subcontinental Indian has a borderline retarded IQ and defecates in public. Don’t expect anything from them.

          • JohnEngelman

            The Indus River Valley civilization was founded by Dravidians, who are racially similar to the aboriginal inhabitants of New Guinea and Australia. The Indo Europeans came later.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            If you knew anything about the archaeological excavation of Harappa and Mohenjo-daro, you would know that the IVC was inhabited by a number of different racial and subracial types. These included the Mediterranean Caucasoids (not to be confused with Indo-Europeans), Mongoloids and Australoid aborigines. The Australoids were at the bottom of the pecking order.

          • JohnEngelman

            The earliest traces of civilization in the Indian subcontinent are to be found in places along, or close, to the Indus river. Excavations first conducted in 1921-22, in the ancient cities of Harappa and Mohenjodaro, both now in Pakistan, pointed to a highly complex civilization that first developed some 4,500-5,000 years ago, and subsequent archaeological and historical research has now furnished us with a more detailed picture of the Indus Valley Civilization and its inhabitants. The Indus Valley people were most likely Dravidians,

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            According to the British archaeologist S. Piggott (1962):

            The sum of the evidence from the skulls, then, shows that in the Harappa Culture there was, first, the aboriginal Proto-Australoid type, perhaps then, as now, ranking among the “under-dogs” of the social system; second, the predominant Mediterraneans, presumably the main contributors of the agricultural and urban features of the whole Western Indian prehistoric world, and with them probably the short-headed Alpine element; thirdly, an occasional “foreigner” from the north-east – the hill-country of Nepal or Assam, or beyond, possibly from China itself – but he is perhaps present as an invader.

    • Berkeley Guy

      That is China’s basic strategy. Indians who move to China are not Han, and are not considered truly Chinese.

      • benvad

        Why the hell would they? Only whites are delusional to believe that identities can be changed. We aren’t # 1 in the world for naïveté for Nothing!

  • bilderbuster

    But you do find them as slumlords and owners of run down ghetto motels and convenience stores where welfare checks are cashed and food stamps are the main form of currency.

    • dd121

      Funny you should mention that. I chatted with the Indian proprietor of a mom and pop motel a few years back when I was in New Mexico. He said there was an Indian financier in Dallas who bankrolled Indian immigrants throughout the SW if they wanted to start a business there. They’re everywhere! I never saw a news story on the subject.

      • bilderbuster

        Someone’s backing them.
        They own practically every seedy flop house in Tucson.
        They ARE everywhere and most are named Patel.
        Supposedly that’s a name like Smith in India but I’m not buying that for minute because it’s just way too common.
        Just because I don’t like them doesn’t mean there isn’t something fishy about them.

      • Jesse James

        I have always been curious about how these people from across the globe were able to move to the US, buy small businesses and make a go of it. I think that our government helps very much by giving them preferential tax rates or maybe even no taxes during a start up period. If anyone has any links to serious articles about how this immigrant business thing works please post them. I don’t think there are very many US owned gas stations and quick marts left in Georgia. The Indians also seem to have a knack at taking over Dairy Queens, which I find culturally offensive especially since many of them don’t seem to quite grasp the concept of the banana split and they seem to loathe spending the money to change their frying oil.

        • Traveler

          I read a very detailed article a while ago about Patels & motels but I don’t have the url with me now. Here’s a gist of what I know. Indians in the US are of 3 prime varieties – STEM workers, small business owners(gas stations, motels etc), illegals. Illegals & STEM workers are straightforward cases. Coming to SBOs it has more to do with ethnic ties than govt. tax breaks from what I know. SBOs fall into 3-4 ethnic groups – Punjabis(Sikhs mostly), Gujratis(Patels), South-Indians(Telugus/Tamils). Each of these groups, especially the first two, operate like co-operatives. Punjabis arrived in the US first, back in 1850, as farmers I think. They are a very industrious people. They have been very successful in farming in California. Punjabis also migrated to Canada & UK in significant numbers. For any new-comer in their community in any of these countries, the community members pool in resources( money, things etc) to get them started. They help them setup businesses. I have even heard they give most new-comers 3 chances. If they don’t succeed they are on their own. Patels operate the same way, help other Patels aggressively to buy motels. They have connections to their kin back home in India from where they get some investments as well. Chain migration was common among these two groups back in the day. Not only the west, even within India & other parts of the world Punjabis (Jat Sikhs primarily, Jats are descendants of Scythians) & Marwaris(another group, doesn’t have much presence in the West) have become very successful as SBOs with the same co-operative model. They travel far and wide to set up businesses, very entrepreneurial people even if at a lower level. Entire family takes part in the enterprise, pretty old school business model.

          • tlk244182

            Very helpful. Thanks.

          • Jesse James

            Hmm interesting, actually it sounds like a win for traditional family values and practices. There is nothing wrong with copying success when you find good examples of it as long as the practices fall within your moral code. Hard work, family solidarity and organization to further your extended families interests are all acceptable practices. I think though that in the American development of nuclear families and our excessive individualism and geographic mobility we have shattered our connection with our traditional family past. Without a sense of family honor, duty and obligation it is hard to trust in that manner needed to participate in extended family business operations.

          • Too much “family honor” has a dark cause and dark consequences.

            HBD Chick, you have the floor.

          • bilderbuster

            They run way too many business’s that have the majority of the transactions in food stamps ect.
            It’s no secret that a huge amount of fraud goes hand in hand with food stamps and the buying, selling and trading of them.
            Based on my bigoted law of averages I suspect a rather large amount of Indians are involved in these crimes.

        • Frank Morris

          It works like this. The US government gives immigrants low or no-interest loans to start businesses, then gives them a grace period of several years where they aren’t liable for income taxes. Canada has almost identical policies.

          Here’s how they work it. I got this first-hand, from the Pakistanis who did this at the convenience store up the road. I was friendly with them, and they shared this with me.
          *****************************************************************************************************
          Two cousins immigrate from Pakistan with their extended families. Some come to the USA, some to Canada. Each group gets their visas in their respective countries. Each one gets sweetheart gubmint loans and buys an old c-store. Each one spends several years running said store, not paying taxes.
          When the grace period on taxes runs out, it just so happens that the visas are about to expire.
          Owner of c-store #1 in the USA applies for a Canadian visa. Owner of c-store #2 in Canada applies for a USA visa. They sell the stores to one another. The taxpayer foots the bill for the sales. When the title to the store is transferred, another period of tax amnesty begins.

          Run the store for a few years, repeat above process, ad infinitum.

          • Frank Morris

            I should also add that since c-stores, fleabag, by-the-hour motels, etc., are largely cash operations, these folks by-and-large are abusers of our welfare system. They report just enough income to still qualify for SNAP (food benefits), Medicaid, Section 8, etc.

          • Nice picture. It’s actually the end of a nightmare I had not long after 9/11.

          • Harry Manlyballs

            SLAM DUNK!!! Veritas sum toto!!!

          • Jesse James

            Yes this is what I had heard they just continue to change the ownership within their family so that they get a permanent tax free status, which is exactly why American small business people can’t compete fairly against them. Clear proof that we are no longer have a nation state that functions for the good of its founding population.

        • Medizin

          They get low interest loans backed by the government.

  • John R

    So, Indians win spelling bees. But, I don’t understand this? I thought America was a racist society that put people down because of the color of their skin and therefore they did poorly in school because they felt inferior. So, how come the Indians are such good spellers? Gosh, maybe the White racism is so bad that Indians feel that the only way they can gain recognition from evil Whites is to study hard and spell good? Hmmm, but then why don’t blacks win spelling bees then? Gosh, so hard to be a liberal anymore! Well, liberalism is more of a religion than a political philosophy anyway. It doesn’t need any proof for its assertions.

    • tlk244182

      Dot Indians didnt suffer slavery and Jim Crow. Or, for that matter, the Great Society.

      • John R

        Uhhhh, or maybe, because the Indians are of the CAUCASOID race and have larger brains than persons of the NEGROID race? How much more evidence do we need? We have to get away from this idea that “all races are equal.”

  • M.Magog

    Can they spell “REPATRIATION”?

    • Traveler

      Can you spell ‘Grace’?

  • IKUredux

    Big deal. So what. Personally, I am blown away by all the inventions they are responsible for. And man, the Nobel prizes they have won! Well, I mean, it would figure, look at that population! I mean, they couldn’t help but field a large number of geniuses. Hey, I don’t know about you, but anyone who thinks cows are sacred, why, right there I know they are smart. I love cows too! (Pass the A-1).

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    They can be successful in their own countries though. I think that is most of everyone’s legitimate concern here.

    • Fathercoughlin

      HA! In their own countries they gotta deal with other Indians. Have you heard about some of their “success”?? The cheap car they tried to build;a cluster you-know-what.The cheap PC they tried to make? A joke. How about the govt trying to give food to the poor? The rich big shots STOLE the food and sold it! And what of the national power outages. How about the trains? No the “brilliant” Indian wouild much rather deal with WHITE PEOPLE in exercising his fantastic unfathomable brain. We subsidize him,coddle him,and take care of him,and of course we “celebrate” our “investment” in him!

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        After reading this post I would assume you were agreeing with me in a light hearted sarcastic manner, but after seeing the way you called me a “weak sissy” under another comment, I am assuming you are seriously disagreeing with me. You must have misunderstood my post. I was basically saying that they should stay in their own countries. I wasn’t trying to make a point about what they are capable of doing and achieving in India due to their talents.

        Note: Not that I am offended that you called me a sissy. As a woman that word is very fitting for me, which makes it odd that you even used it as a mild insult in the first place.

  • Traveler

    They are just a bunch of kids having fun. Not everything needs to be seen through the prism of racial pride.

  • Traveler

    In the article about G Indians were lumped under ‘Asians’, the geographical term. Racially Indians come in many varieties – Mid-eastern/southern-european/central-asian caucasians, Chinese/Tibetan/Burmese Mongoloids, Australoids, very few full blooded Negroids and a mix of these depending on which area you are looking at.

  • Traveler

    While I agree language, spelling, correctness, grammar matter I wouldn’t personally care so much about these spelling Bee competitions although I have great personal interest in languages(speak 3 fluently, learning 2 more). One of my gripes against Indian culture is the emphasis on rote and not on critical thinking, creativity & exploring/experimenting. Those are the things I’d encourage my kids to do. I am Indian.

  • freddy_hills

    Most of these kids are no doubt very bright. But spelling isn’t a matter of being bright. It’s a matter of memory. It’s learning and memorizing the many different spelling patterns based on word origins as well as the many different exceptions. It takes a bit of intelligence to wrap your mind around it and organize it. After that, it’s merely rote memorization which takes an enormous amount of time. These kids are putting hundreds and hundreds of hours over a period of years. And for what? A chance to compete in a spelling bee that only one of them will win. That really doesn’t seem like a good use of time to me. Better to use your time for something else.

  • MooTieFighter

    This does once again prove some genetic propensity toward certain intellectual gifts. I had no problem with chemistry/physics/math while so many others struggled, but I was NEVER a great speller. Another interesting revelation that we really are different people.

    • Tim_in_Indiana

      I’m white, and I was always better at spelling and English than math. No, I think all this proves is if you skim off the very top 0.010% of Indian strata, you’ll get the best (as opposed to letting in everyone who wants to come, as we’re doing with the Mexicans).

      • MooTieFighter

        Could have a good point there. If only our best of the best went to another particular country it would make us stand out, but overall I don’t see this panning out for every ethnicity. Studies have proven some ethnicities do perform better/worse in different areas, but you do raise a great point.

      • DiversityIsDeath

        Is USA really selectively skimming only the top .010% of immigrants from India? I don’t think so. I think USA is just letting all Indians come in, indiscriminately, the way USA allows all the other third worlders invade USA’s sovereign borders.

  • tlk244182

    I’m anxious and embarrassed that few on this thread seem to appreciate the wider implications of being a master-speller. This blindness is part of the reason why we’re losing the racial struggle. Listening to us excuse our failures is like listening to Negroes whining about how correct grammar and usage is micro-aggression. As a White man, I see very little reason to be confident of victory without a rigorous self-assessment and re-dedication to scholarly excellence, moral purity, and physical courage.

    • Berkeley Guy

      Excellent post. I hope you post on this site more often. Making excuses is a silly affair. We need to be realistic and adapt to a changing world instead of looking back at what once was great.

  • According to the article, and many of the comments, if you’re not oblivious to the obvious, then you’re a racist.

  • shmo123

    They could hold another bee to see how many of the contestants could spell the winners’ names.

  • Sick of it

    Wow, they get the word list ahead of time these days? Anyone should be able to win.

  • Peter Connor

    There are dozens of subgroups in India, many with low intelligence. Immigrants are almost always from the top 2 castes.

  • Fathercoughlin

    can he spell GET THE HELL OUT?

  • Fathercoughlin

    A friend tells me they have very very dark and ugly penises.

  • Fathercoughlin

    This is the stupidest most butt kissing comment Ive seen all day. .No we should not “celebrate”–whatever that stupid overused word means–Indian success.. The hell WHY? Its at our expense. Our tax dollats flow to them,they learn at OUR schools,live in our towns..What? Do we open champagne bottles and dance because Haji won the spelling bee? You make white people look like stupid shoeless country bumpkins. “Well goll-LEE! Them there indian doctors is so smart land o goshen Im gonna go home and get some moonshine and some party hats and we’ll have a wing ding and celebrate!”

  • Fathercoughlin

    As a boy,I studied the Sears Catalog,if ya know what I mean.

    • IstvanIN

      Toys or ladies support garments? 😉

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Every genetic study they have done proves this though. The upper castes in India share certain genes with people in Poland etc…..They are the only people in India to share these genes with whites.

    • Can you tell me which studies these are? Are they available online? I have been looking for that kind of information but have not been successful. I’ve been arguing for a while that ancient Aryan Indians were white, but it’s hard to make a very convincing case without the genetics.

      One of the few studies I’ve found that’s relevant to the ancient Aryans at all is one that suggests that the ancient people who lived in the Caspian Sea region were white. In arguments, I group these facts together, and I think together they are fairly persuasive: Caspian Sea Aryans were white; Iran is directly below the Caspian Sea region; “Iran” means “Land of the Aryans”; there are known and roughly contemporaneous *shared* *deities* in the Iranian Gathas and the Indian Vedas, suggesting they were written by a related people; the ancient Indians used the swastika, which is all over Europe.

      But it would be nice to have a smoking gun.

      • Sick of it

        “R1a (not to be confused with the homonymous Y-chromosome
        haplogroup) is found among the Adygei people from the North Caucasus (related to the Maykop culture => see R1b
        section), Brahmins from northern India, northwestern Russians and Poles – basically all people closely related with the Indo-European
        expansion. R2 is found from northwest India and Pakistan to Iran, Georgia and Turkey. It could be connected to the Indo-Iranians.”

        www eupedia com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml#R

        Keep looking. I’ve found a lot of resources on this topic, but do not have it all saved.

        • Traveler

          It’s not hard to find, I have read quite a few. I am one such myself but not Rx. People are connected, so what’s the big surprise or why are some Euros so obsessed with finding connections and laying claims is something that surprises me.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        Reich et al. (2009) says that subcontinental Indians are descended from two ancestral populations:

        We analyze 25 diverse groups to provide strong evidence for two ancient populations, genetically divergent, that
        are ancestral to most Indians today. One, the “Ancestral North Indians” (ANI), is genetically close to Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Europeans, while the other, the “Ancestral South
        Indians” (ASI), is as distinct from ANI and East Asians as they are from each other. By introducing methods that can estimate ancestry without accurate ancestral populations, we show that ANI ancestry ranges from 39-71% in India, and is higher in traditionally upper caste and Indo-European speakers. Groups with only ASI ancestry may no longer exist in mainland India. However, the Andamanese are an ASI-related group without ANI ancestry, showing that the peopling of the islands must have occurred before ANI-ASI gene flow on the mainland

        […]

        It is tempting to hypothesize that the population ancestral to ANI and CEU [Europeans] spoke “Proto-Indo-European”, which has been reconstructed as ancestral to both Sanskrit and European languages, although we cannot be certain without a date for ANI-ASI mixture.

        […]

        ANI ancestry is significantly higher in Indo-European than Dravidian speakers suggesting that the ancestral ASI may have spoken a Dravidian language before mixing with the ANI. We also find significantly more ANI ancestry in traditionally upper than lower or middle caste groups and find that traditional caste level is significantly correlated to ANI ancestry even after controlling for language, suggesting a relationship between the history of caste formation in India and ANI-ASI mixture.

    • Traveler

      That doesn’t mean Poles migrated to India ages ago. You have no claim via the ‘White’ argument over upper caste Indian genetics simply because they share certain parts of the Genome with other people. That’s like upper castes laying claim on Polish achievements because they share genes. They separated out ages ago, evolved since then culturally, genetically in a different milieu. Arabs share genes with Europeans as well. Are they all ‘White’ now? Or just Caucasian? We all share areas of Genome with Africans. So what? Maybe this aggressive claim on everything is what turns half-Whites against Whites, just saying. I can see why upper caste Hindu nationalist distance themselves from this nonsense.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        But the upper castes are the only people in India that have these similar genes to Europeans. I think that is something to at least think about.

  • IstvanIN

    Absolutely. The WBTS, Vietnam and in fact all the other wars, justified or not were passing moments in history. The importation of slaves, while an on-going problem, was contained until the Brown decision and could have been re-contained with enough backbone. The immigration act of 1965, however, has forever changed the face of the nation and plunged it into a dark ages that it either will never recover from or only after extreme hardship.

  • teaisstronger

    Maybe they do not play video games like black, tan, and white Americans kids.

  • teaisstronger

    What public high school still requires the reading of Shakespeare’s works? Any? You cannot learn to spell English if all your are taught is Ebonics in school by non-English speakers.

  • teaisstronger

    Indian people do not resent and hate the White European Virtual world we live in like Blacks and Tans. Indian people see how valuable and powerful English speakers are.

    • Gerald Michael

      Well, in the San Francisco Bay Area they do. I can attest.

      • IstvanIN

        When they reach critical mass. They think they are superior and we are in their way.

        • rightrightright

          Indians have the caste system in their DNA. Everyone has to be assessed in terms of caste, whether white, black or eskimo. Naturally enough it suits them to pick a caste for all these others that is lower than their own.

  • Tom_in_Miami

    How about Salman Rushdie? He says that there is a “renaissance” of English literature springing up in India. Christopher Hitchens, no slouch himself, agrees.

  • It’s a GOOD thing people are preoccupied with their heritage than their way with words, if anything it should contribute to encouraging white students to do better ..

    • benvad

      Quit bitching and study as hard as these kids do.

  • Ellis Kurtz

    “the USA would be a far, far better nation if these Indians and their families were refused admission”

    Since they are above average, so would India, a “developing” nation that needs its best and brightest to stay home. This is one argument that the immigration-obsessed left is never confronted with.

    • LHathaway

      The ‘brain drain’ back home. Just something else for them to hate us for. . .

  • JohnEngelman

    No, but they make up for it on the basketball court.

  • none of your business

    Who cares?

  • freddy_hills

    Yeah. The winner gets money. The thousands of losers don’t get squat. They’d be better off spending their time on the science competition. Think about it, a competition that takes up hundreds of hours and only helps you if you’re the lucky one who actually wins. Better off buying a lottery ticket. Mastering maths, however, will absolutely help you whether you win or not. It will boost your grades, test scores and there are also numerous math competitions to compete in. Placing well in one of those will get you in a top school. With great grades and test scores you’ll get plenty of scholarship money.

  • Mainlander

    I’ve noticed that Indians tend to never give their US-born kids American-sounding names. Unlike East Asians. Lots of David Wongs, but always Sririams and Ansuns in the Indian communities.

    • Melvin Bonzarelli

      Actually an excellent observation. I live in an area with a huge number of Asians – Chinese, Koreans and Indians. The Chinese and Koreans are almost entirely Christians, and have their own congregations at local Baptist and Presbyterian churches, and give their children American and Biblical names – lots of Timothy and Mark, John, Jason, William, that sort of thing.
      We have Indians who already the second generation born in this country and they are all still Jugdish and Rugdish and Bugdish and Pugwash, etc. Anthropologists call this a boundary maintaining mechanism – they want to keep that fence around themselves and their own culture. And they are almost entirely practicing Muslims and Hindus, even the third generation here.

      • IstvanIN

        It is called giving the host nation “the middle finger”.

  • Sick of it

    “It’s interesting that people quote Lynn as stating the average IQ of
    whites is 100, yet his own work shows averages of 106 in Germany and other places, so obviously psychometrists don’t exactly have a handle on everything.”

    I’ve read studies which estimated the average IQ of the German population at 110 or higher prior to WWII. I would like to see in depth research on that topic, expanded to include all of the nations which participated in the war, with before and after figures for all.

    • Medizin

      Communism, environment, contributed to lowering IQ in East Germany following the war. They are rising, now.

  • Sick of it

    As a boy, I read multiple encyclopedias, dictionaries, thesauri, etc. I enjoyed reading stacks of books from the library every week. Few people seem to genuinely enjoy learning, unfortunately.

  • Melvin Bonzarelli

    You’re kidding, right?

  • Melvin Bonzarelli

    Re-read “The Bell Curve”. It’s all in there.

  • adplatt126

    South Asians, Indians in particular, are a carefully selected minority group in America. The proportion of them and their progenitors that are top engineers, doctors, and scientists chosen from a tremendous pool of over one billion people back home, here in the United States (where a huge percentage of them are remarkably gifted), is vastly out of proportion to the representation of such folks in India (where they are rare, and the cream of the crop). Anyone with tremendous skills in India is essentially desperate to emigrate to the West given the domestic poverty, crime and other entrenched problems that exist there. We acquire the best of the best through a selective immigration policy (from Asia, not from elsewhere) and they and their offspring whip American butt in spelling bees. This isn’t exactly a f’ing puzzle…

  • BillMillerTime

    I think that it’s time that we had a national conversation about Indian privilege.

  • Jotun Hunter

    modern college / universities are a ponzi scheme, people who know better and want to actually do things largely avoid them. The high iq spelling bee winning indians are find, but it’s still no reason to import them en masse into our countries, we have enough genius of our own, it still won’t improve anything, only cause racial tension and strife.

  • IstvanIN

    And don’t think they won’t do it to us. Did a small kingdom like Sikkam or Bhutan really pose a threat to India? Nope just empire building. They will take over any part of the US and Canada they can.

  • Groovy

    V.S. Naipaul