Gov’t: End Overly Zealous Discipline in Schools

Kimberly Hefling, Big Story, January 8, 2014

The Obama administration is urging schools to abandon overly zealous discipline policies that civil rights advocates have long said lead to a school-to-prison pipeline that discriminates against minority students.

The wide-ranging series of guidelines issued Wednesday in essence tells schools that they must adhere to the principle of fairness and equity in student discipline or face strong action if they don’t. {snip}

“A routine school disciplinary infraction should land a student in the principal’s office, not in a police precinct,” Attorney General Eric Holder said.

Holder said the problem often stems from well intentioned “zero-tolerance” policies that too often inject the criminal justice system into the resolution of problems. Zero-tolerance policies, a tool that became popular in the 1990s, often spell out uniform and swift punishment for offenses such as truancy, smoking or carrying a weapon. Violators can lose classroom time or become saddled with a criminal record.

{snip}

The administration said research suggests the racial disparities in how students are disciplined are not explained by more frequent or more serious misbehavior by students of color.

“In our investigations, we have found cases where African-American students were disciplined more harshly and more frequently because of their race than similarly situated white students,” the Justice and Education departments said in a letter to school districts. “In short, racial discrimination in school discipline is a real problem.”

{snip}

In American schools, black students without disabilities were more than three times as likely as whites to be expelled or suspended, according to government civil rights data collection from 2011-2012. Although black students made up 15 percent of students in the data collection, they made up more than a third of students suspended once, 44 percent of those suspended more than once and more than a third of students expelled.

More than half of students involved in school-related arrests or referred to law enforcement were Hispanic or black, according to the data.

{snip}

The recommendations encourage schools to ensure that all school personnel are trained in classroom management, conflict resolution and approaches to de-escalate classroom disruptions.

Among the other recommendations:

—Ensure that school personnel understand that they are responsible for administering routine student discipline instead of security or police officers.

—Draw clear distinctions about the responsibilities of school security personnel.

—Provide opportunities for school security officers to develop relationships with students and parents.

The government advises schools to establish procedures on how to distinguish between disciplinary infractions appropriately handled by school officials compared with major threats to school safety. And, it encourages schools to collect and monitor data that security or police officers take to ensure nondiscrimination.

{snip}

Already, in March of last year, the Justice Department spearheaded a settlement with the Meridian, Miss., school district to end discriminatory disciplinary practices. The black students in the district were facing harsher punishment than whites for similar misbehavior.

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  • dd121

    If you want to keep them out of the “school-to-prison” pipeline, just don’t send them to school. Then they can go straight to jail!

    • IstvanIN

      Why not, we support them from cradle to grave as it is.

      • MikeofAges

        Actually, it’s second trimester to grave. Ever heard of WIC?

        • IstvanIN

          And Medicaid for Pregnant Women.

          • MikeofAges

            A variation on the same theme.

    • Sue

      Exactly what I was going to write. lol

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Or better yet right to the grave at the hands of each other, the law, or the wrong white man or woman they attempt to victimize. In any event, their deaths as a result of their criminality chlorinate the gene pool just a little.

    • Erasmus

      Inner city schools just got a lot worse. Private schools just got a lot more attractive, and property values in the inner city just went down and in the burbs just went up.
      Al-Qai’da isn’t the biggest threat to this country. The clown in the White House and his trained monkey, Eric Holder, are.

  • Hunter Morrow

    Non-Whites are incompatible with White education and law.

  • bigone4u

    Just great. With disruptive troublemakers now running free, chaos will reign and serious students will spend their time at school worrying if they’re going to get beat up. In the long run, the troublemakers will end up in prison anyway, but educational outcomes will suffer. Homeschool everyone, or find a good Catholic school with a group of nuns who know how to use a ruler as a paddle. Holder intends to bring white educational results down. Don’t let him.

    • Pro_Whitey

      Please don’t set the bar so high. It’s very difficult to find a Catholic school with any nuns left these days. I think its status as a Catholic school, and its ability to throw out bad apples without the obligation imposed on the public schools to accommodate them, is enough to create a sufficiently functional learning environment. Heck, even a Jewish school would do, if they let goyim attend.

  • Luca

    “In our investigations, we have found cases where African-American students were disciplined more harshly and more frequently because of their race than similarly situated white students,”..

    I’ll bet they studied 35,000 cases and came up with about 4 that might have been overzealous. That’s all it takes for them to go off on a tangent and claim that they have proof of discrimination.

    Yet another demonstration of indoctrination showing that minority kids need special treatment, have special privileges and can get away with far more than any other group.

    If administrators and teachers are so discriminatory, why aren’t there overwhelming statistics on how all those Asian kids are being unjustly disciplined as well?

    • capnmorgan5150

      Very good point, Luca. When you bring up the Asians as an example of people who are probably only 2nd generation (but are doing extremely well), the liberals always seem to discount it for one reason or another.

  • Ronald

    If Obama and his pal, Holder. don’t want “the youth” to be subjected to overly zealous discipline in schools, why don’t they just tell the African “children” to behave themselves?

    • Whitetrashgang

      That’s racist, really really racist.

    • sbuffalonative

      One can’t expect blacks to ‘act white’.

      • FransSusan

        One can’t expect blacks to even act human.

    • AutomaticSlim

      Best quote on the thread.

  • Puggg

    No more disciplining black and hispanic students. Or the Federal government’s boot is on your throat.

    That’s what this means.

    • Lewis33

      This will end well…

    • Mergatroyd

      The Feds already got its boot on our throats, each and every one of us and is mashing down.

  • David Ashton

    As a teacher in all kinds of schools over 30 years, I can say that the FIRST priority is an attentive, well-behaved class, whether black, white or khaki.

  • sbuffalonative

    I saw this article today under the headline: Holder’s New School Discipline Guidelines: Stop Targeting Minorities.

    3800+ comments. No one is fooled.

  • MekongDelta69

    If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime
    has turned into…
    If you’re black… we’ve got your back

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    If discipline is currently being handled by police officers, what kind of infractions are we talking about? They must be crimes. If that’s the case then we’re going to have Trayvon Martin-style school non-discipline and crime cover-ups nationwide.

  • Marc Zuckurburg

    This is bad news for me. Suspended black kids have lots of time to hang out on Facebook.

    At least Facebook stock was up today.

    • So CAL Snowman

      In my opinion your posts are much better when you post actual screen shots from facebook along with the mug sh-, I mean selfie. A true eye opener into the stupidity and vanity of the average american lemming. I agree with James Edwards as I’m “ready to gas on a ni**a lol”

      • Marc Zuckurburg

        Does this mean you’re willing to help me out to get comprehensive immigration reform so (insert the litany that I’m supposed to cut and paste here that the Chamber of Commerce hired some public relations agency to write)? If so, then I’m just tickled as yellow as my wife.

        • So CAL Snowman

          That’s a definite maybe.

    • dd121

      Is this why we need “comprehensive immigration reform”?

    • DLRisVH

      It’s going to be one hell of a Civil War II.

      • Non Humans

        Only in where it concerns hunting down the libtards. The nonhumans will starve to death.

    • Spartacus

      You don’t know your own company well enough. There’s a lot better screenshots you can take :

      • Jim Barlow

        Even when I think I’ve seen it all – those Facebook posts are profoundly disturbing.

        If the roles were reversed, and I posted something half as vile as that, I’d be ostracized from my professional community and thrown in jail.

        • Spartacus

          And they’re not exactly an isolated case….

          • Hates white people, wants to kill them all, or at the very least out of Africa.

            Lives in London.

          • Alexandra1973

            He needs to substitute “white people” with “black people” and “African continent” with “White nations.”

            It’d be a start.

      • dd121

        AmRen seems like of a collection of choir boys in comparison.

      • Alexandra1973

        Were I still on Facebook, I’d have been reporting those posts as hate content or whatever they call it now.

        • Marc Zuckurburg

          Come back to Facebook.

          Click on all of the ads you see.

          And pressure your representatives to enact comprehensive immigration reform.

          Because I need more money.

          I’m down to my last $24.5 billion.

          • Puggg

            What happened to “please please please give me my comprehensive immigration reform?”

          • Fathercoughlin

            God bless Hitler!

        • Spartacus

          No one would care.

      • MikeofAges

        Feminist social critic Camilia Paglia wrote an essay recently in which she warned that modern civilization as we know it is a “male epic”. True, but not nuanced enough. Actually, it is a white male epic, which only the East Asians have been able to adopt on a fully functional basis. Don’t bother to turn off the lights on the way out, Mfundo. They’ll just go off on their own.

  • negrolocaust

    the high yellow blacks are the biggest pieces of garbage. i wonder why that is. 4 knockout attacks in denver. i emailed it to you yesterday and not a word on this website. i am outraged.

    • RisingReich

      I as well suggested the story. Apparently Denver doesn’t count.

  • negrolocaust

    this piece of garbage visited my town…… i thought my toilet was backed up… i could smell something all day.

  • Berkeley Guy

    It is interesting to comment on many stories that Amren reports on. For me, it is even more interesting to comment on education/testing articles.

    I believe that many of us whites look toward the public education system and expect an ideal that we imagine to be implemented in schools across the nation. This is silly since it is spending a great deal of cognitive resources and altruism on people who don’t care about you or your ideal of a system, but instead care mainly about what benefit they expect to receive from it.

    I have implied in other posts, and I will be explicit about it now: we need to stop looking at the public education system for educating our children or educating ourselves. The political bias in both K-12 and in the for-profit university system is well known. White people will almost never be taught about their European heritage in any positive way.

    I was explicitly taught in particular schools when I was younger that white people were to blame for a lot. And that I was personally somewhat responsible for the legacy of slavery. I went to the Lewis Middle School in Boston in the early 90’s (for those of you who know me from other posts, and are doing the math, yes I am in my early thirties and am going to UC Berkeley. I was in the military and the private sector before deciding on going to college). I was bused across the city to that school, and it was majority black. I remember one other white kid in class. Later on one more white kid joined from a Catholic school (he let on that he had been too mischievous at school) but his parents pulled him out after about a week or two–his prior mischief was nothing compared to the way the kids at Lewis treated him.

    I have direct experience with bad public schooling. There were chains on the doors so that you could not ‘escape’ while class was in session. Remember that movie with Morgan Freeman? That was my reality, which seemed even worse to me at the time than what was shown in the movie. I witnessed a pregnant twelve-year old girl get beaten by another girl. The faculty restrained that girl, and after pretending she had calmed down, starting beating the pregnant girl again when the faculty relaxed their grip. One time, a boy came to class and his arm was bandaged up–he had been stabbed walking one street over from his home, and he lived near the school. I was told by teachers to never leave the school unless by bus, and to wait near the door until the bus was close by.

    That is how they treated each other, and I won’t even begin to list all the verbal and physical abuse I suffered while at that school on a daily basis because you already know what it would be like. (One funny anecdote is when I won the school spelling bee to represent the school at the citywide. The girl I lost to complained that I won because the teacher was racist, I kid you not. I offered a rematch and won. Later on that girl poked fun at me and said basically, ‘Haha, that’s why your parents pay the taxes that let my parents get welfare,’ once again I kid you not.) I believe my anecdata, so many years later, confirms that the problems at these schools are glossed over and sugar-coated to say the least by most media outlets.

    All this talk about trying to fix a ‘system’ isn’t going to work if the kids themselves aren’t going to change. And it doesn’t matter about punishment. Actually at Lewis the teachers were extremely relaxed in handing out punishments. Kids would throw chalk and erasers at the faculty (one time they threw a paper plane that landed right in the eye of an English teacher), pull fire alarms, push the teachers and whack them with random objects, rip up classroom texts, swear at them and verbally abuse them, smoke in the hallway, deal drugs, bring weapons to school, and steal anything worth anything. In some extreme cases, yes kids were expelled or suspended, but most of the time the teachers looked the other way, knowing that the situation was basically hopeless.

    I personally take issue with whoever thinks that blacks were treated poorly at such schools. I experienced explicit racism on a nearly daily basis, and was physically assaulted many times–in class–and the teachers didn’t care. I guess they showed symptoms of ‘learned helplessness.’

    • sbuffalonative

      One of the great myths of ‘progressive’ liberalism is that racism is learned from racist parents. The truth is that ‘racism’ is learned from direct contact and experience.

      Young kids know what’s going on. They see it and they experience it. While some of them will have black friends on an individual basis, when they leave school, they will find that most blacks aren’t like their black friends.

      While Oprah is counting on old racists to die off, a whole new generation who are forced to live with blacks will be born.

      • Geo1metric

        I think “racism” is genetic. I prefer the term “in-group bias” to racism because I think it more accurately expresses the behavior. The word “racism” conveys no accurate information.

        • Kenner

          I no loger use ‘racist’, just anti-white or pro-white.

          • Katherine McChesney

            Two days ago I read an article on a black website. The name I cannot remember. The comments were rich. Someone brought up the name of Tim Wise. All of the sudden the commenters were condemning Wise and these were angry posts. Seems they do not trust him at all with his anti-white rants. They think he is a phoney and a troublemaker.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            I have lurked that site, Katherine. She is currently on a break getting her head together, or something.
            Negress is delusional, as are her fans. She holds opinions that are in direct opposition to racial reality.
            In one of her rants, she was on about the myriad inventions, concepts, ideas, formulae, etc., advanced by blacks, but usurped by Whites, the tragedy of blacks’ brilliance being lethally suppressed by Whites, and on and on. It was a hoot.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Racism is learned from others who are unlike you killing, raping, displacing, oppressing, mocking, exploiting, tormenting, harassing, cheating, harming and otherwise making your life a living Hell. That is where racism comes from. This is where racial hatred that can rise to the level of fanaticism comes from.

      • Triarius

        Time for my favorite quote.

        Constant exposure to dangers will breed contempt for them – Seneca the Younger

        • Who Me?

          Racism means noticing the color of the people who attacked you.

      • Alexandra1973

        I grew up in a pretty non-“racist” home. Though I think my dad was aware.

        One of my good friends in kindergarten was a black girl, but by the time we reached high school we’d gone our separate ways.

      • Laura Dilworth

        this family has been ‘mugged’ several times

    • Romulus

      Welcome home!

    • Pro_Whitey

      What you write just reminds me how lucky I was to have grown up just about a quarter mile outside of a school busing zone. We lower and middle class whites had our dysfunction, but at least the administrators and teachers were able to establish a reasonably functional learning environment.

  • So CAL Snowman

    And 10 years from now, IF the schools aren’t smoldering ruins, the
    mainstream media will blame the black and brown problems on the lack of discipline and
    zero tolerance policies. It’s fun living in the Twilight Zone.

    • RisingReich

      Not fun at all, but very much the Twilight Zone. You got that part 100%.

  • Dave4088

    I doubt blacks and Latino “students” are being arrested and disciplined “more harshly” for throwing spit wads and talking in class. A coworker’s brother is a teacher at a public school in a medium city and tells me that black male students often threaten male and female teachers with bodily harm and sometimes smuggle weapons to school. The school district already has a suspension and expulsion quota for non-whites, so sometimes they get to stay in school.

    These are the types of kids that Eric Holder claims are just black and brown Beaver Cleaver’s who are simply misunderstood.

  • BernieGoetzFan

    I think the days or lowering crime rates are coming to an end. Already crime has increased nationally the last two years because of thinking like this. Those in charge care more about supposed racial disparities than arresting violent criminals (who usually are black).

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      They never really existed, but crimes of violence are going to explode very soon. Of course that will be the pretext to declare marital law and overthrow the Constitution that stands in the hostile aliens’ path towards total power of life and death over us.

  • Dave4088

    First it’s the soft discrimination of low standards, but when blacks are measured to the same standards and fail miserably then those standards become racist, discriminatory and “culturally biased”. Whites simply cannot win in a multiracial society with government enforced equality of outcomes.

  • DLRisVH

    Jose and Shitavious will be very happy knowing they will be allowed to bring weapons to school since it’s considered “raciss” to discipline them. And I’m sure this means it’s open season on Johnny and Mary.

    • Pro_Whitey

      This is just more of that Orwellian up is down crappe. It is likely that white students are disproportionately burdened by zero tolerance policies, because they get punished for drawing a picture of a gun or chewing a pastry into the shape of a gun, or bringing a knife to school to peel fruit, etc. The administrators cannot use good sense or judgment because any disparities get cited as discriminatory application of the policy.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The Zero Tolerance Policy was about nothing more than suspending White kids who didn’t get into trouble in order to make it fair.

    ’…even arrested for relatively minor transgressions like school uniform violations, schoolyard fights, or showing ‘disrespect’ by laughing in class,’ Holder said

    So says this anti-White, racist criminal who willfully ignores the “knockout game” unless the “player” is White and the victim non-White.

    I defy Holder to present evidence of school expulsion — or arrest records and prosecution– for “laughing in class,” or “uniform violations.”

    Put cameras in ALL classrooms and let’s see the results. We’ve already seen the results of cameras on buses where White children have been beaten mercilessly by black thugs. Most black classrooms are disorderly, chaotic, violent nightmares. Put cameras in classrooms and let’s see if Holder is right.

  • libertarian1234

    “In short, racial discrimination in school discipline is a real problem.”
    That’s true.
    Blacks are out of control, and they’re not disciplining enough of them, because blacks are shown favoritism.
    Also, Holder likes to include Hispanics in his complaints, but they are nowhere near the problem blacks are. He thinks including them will give more credibility to what his complaint du jour amounts to.
    He’s a liar, and his compulsion to include “people of color” into his stats is for the purpose of aligning everybody against whites.
    The only problem with that is “people of color” as a group detest blacks and a lot of the reasons blacks are expelled is because they fight so much with Hispanics, who fight back when blacks try to bully them like everyone else.
    They bully Asians throughout the country also, and Asians, generally, detest blacks, because of the harassment and intimidation they get from them.
    For those of us who want to see the black menace deteriorate even more as a race and a culture, this is really a godsend, because it will only make blacks behave even worse than they do now, and black misbehavior is the greatest recruiting tool possible to bring victims around to our side.
    The black on white mob attacks have literally created a huge shift of dislike toward them, causing the boards to come alive with thousands of posts filled with anti-black rhetoric.
    Oprah Winfrey’s assertion that all “old, white people need to die,” and the lamentations by black talking heads about too many blacks are being sent to prison, with a corresponding out-of-control rise in crime and in-your-face black on white mob attacks, adds to the atmosphere of increasing black mayhem and chaos.
    All in all we should be celebrating that they’re killing themselves by their own abysmal stupidity.

    • FransSusan

      They just aren’t killing each other fast enough!

    • Bossman

      Young U.S. black males are indeed a problem. I’ve spent a lot of time in Miami which is now a mecca for Hispanics from all over Latin America and yet most of the violent crimes there seem to be committed by native-born black males.

  • Ograf

    Of course this has nothing to do with the fact they commit more offenses. Furthermore It is hard to believe that in a school that is 89% black they would be singled out for harsher punishment. That article is the biggest bs pile of lame excuses to try and avoid anything but the truth. They are always going to prison from school. That’s what grandpa did and uncle tyrone, and all the others in the hood.

  • Funruffian

    The wide-ranging series of guidelines issued Wednesday in essence tells schools that they must adhere to the principle of fairness and equity in student discipline or face strong action if they don’t. {snip}
    “A routine school disciplinary infraction should land a student in the principal’s office, not in a police precinct,” Attorney General Eric Holder said.”

    So let’s just allow the Bantu students to have massively incoherent monkeyshines with impunity. It’s better just to give them a ‘time out’ or a pep talk like in kindergarten. I swear, the DOJ is really going to clean out the excess Crumbs from the inner city schools. White Flight will take on a whole new meaning where Blacks will have things the way the used to before Brown vs. Board of Education. Then finally all the deluded Whites will realize that Public education is no place for Doug or Cindy. My daughter is in the 7th grade and I can’t wait for her school years to be behind her.

  • Funruffian

    “—Provide opportunities for school security officers to develop relationships with students and parents.”
    In an exclusively human society, the Police Officer was someone you didn’t want to know. That’s how they kept kids in line through fear. Now the authorities have to fear the Bantus while being forced to form relationships?? WTF?? Oh yea, maybe they can get their phone numbers and email addresses and invite them over for tea. This sets a great example to all the other Bantus in that criminal and pathological behavior breeds healthy and lifelong relationships.

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    The black students in the district were facing harsher punishment than whites for similar misbehavior.

    Although credited to the website “Big Story,” this piece apparently comes directly from the left-wing Associated Press. Note the lack of scare quotes or qualifiers such as “claimed,” “according to,” etc. as in “The black students in the district claimed they were facing harsher punishment than whites.”

    When blacks make complaints, they are taken at face value by the AP without even the pretense of objectivity or skepticism. The Associated Press is as corrupt as the rest of the MSM, if not more so.

    • Non Humans

      Why do you draw separate distinctions between the MegaStoopidMedia and the AP? Theyre one in the same and both deplorable.

  • Spartacus

    “More than half of students involved in school-related arrests or
    referred to law enforcement were Hispanic or black, according to the
    data.”

    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    So all of a sudden, they don’t like being “da majowity” ….

  • Ah yes, the infamous “school to prison pipeline.” It’s the kind of thing like aliens, UFOs and bigfoot, things which people claim to have seen or claim to know about, but nobody can prove actually exists. It’s just that aliens, UFOs and bigfoot stories have no credibility outside of that midnight radio show, (you know, the one that tells you what your government doesn’t want you to know in spite of being on 500+ FCC-licensed radio stations, meanwhile when was the last time Jared Taylor was on any media?), but the chimera known as “school to prison pipeline” is taken as serious fodder for making public policy.

    Maybe we can put bigfoot and the loch ness monster in the school to prison pipeline.

    The “school to prison pipeline” is nothing more than the fact that young Bellcurvii will be suspended from school and when they become older Bellcurvii they’ll go to prison, fundamentally for the same reason, because you can’t both keep it real and follow the rules at the same time.

    Then they have the nerve to drag zero tolerance into this missive. Not so long ago, I would have reacted strongly here by saying that 0T was the way that schools suspended white students for lame ticky tack “offenses” precisely to balance out race and shut the NAACP jackals up. But I no longer think that — I now think that 0T has a lot more to do with insurance, that school districts that have and enforce 0T get a discount on their insurance policies.

    • sbuffalonative

      This will actually make the pipeline to prison worse as it did with Trayvon Martin. Trayvon was repeatedly getting into trouble but he was given passes. The result is that he felt invulnerable.

      • Jim Barlow

        You are 100% correct. They lack a superego (and thus do not have an internalized assessment of right vs wrong) and therefore only grow more brazen as they realize they will not be held accountable.

    • I suspect that zero-tolerance policies also allow schools to deny claims that they are unfairly punishing blacks and browns. If the school officials have no discretion in discipline, they can not be accused of bias.

  • RisingReich

    Holder – you nit wit – if the crime committed inside the school warrants criminal charges outside of the school and prison time, that’s called JUSTICE.

    You ought to be lecturing the ‘black community’ (what a joke) about raising kids that aren’t committing felonies by the age 11.

    When, oh, WHEN, dear Lord, will this nightmare called modern day US end?

  • Frank_DeScushin

    Every single inner city public school teacher that I have discussed school discipline with tells me that the discipline is far too lenient. Every single teacher. Yet Holder concludes the exact opposite because his people (deservedly) are disparately impacted by just punishment. Welcome to New America.

  • Charles W.

    Anyone who’s ever gone to a mostly black high school, or even lived near one, can attest that whatever “disciplinary measures” are being taken, they’re clearly not enough.

    • LIBERTYSINCURSION

      I couldn’t agree more!

    • MikeofAges

      My urban, Northern high school in the early 60s had an increasing black majority, but was peaceful. When the “revolution” hit, things changed. And they haven’t changed back. The causes are deemed complex, but aren’t. The old KGB. Homegrown Marxists. Ultimately, anti-Western movements that were more fascist than Marxist rose up gained influenced over non-whites minorities in the West. The 1970s was an interesting decade. The 70s, not the 60s, had the most to do with making the world the way it is. Anybody who thinks otherwise is just an old stoner, or worse.

  • c684570

    Then stop committing acts of violence.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    What Eric Holder wants is a steady stream of whites going to the grave in coffins at the hands of these thugs and infiltrators. If what little discipline that exists in schools today is halted, they will be instant warzones that will be deadly for white teaches and pupils alike. All the more reason for whites to homeschool their children, in defiance of the government and the hostile non-whites in control of it.

  • NoMosqueHere

    As jesse jackson likes to say about black thugs: “Don’t sent ’em to jail, send ’em to Yale.”

    • LeGrandDerangement

      Or Oxford or Cambridge.

      • Katherine McChesney

        That IS a laugh isn’t it. He made a fool of himself with that comment that more blacks should be enrolled in Oxbridge.

  • Alexandra1973

    Why do you think jail is called “n***er university”?

  • Garrett Brown

    “A routine school disciplinary infraction should land a student in the
    principal’s office, not in a police precinct,” Attorney General Eric
    Holder said.

    Implying the latter even happens? I went to a 95% black high school with goons fighting and acting up all over the place. None of them ever went to jail.

  • Extropico

    Eric Holder should self-deport to Africa and deal with their crime uninhibited by White standards.

  • dd121

    You have my sincere sympathy for going through that. The left keeps coming up with new Utopian schemes to fix education. The reason none will work is because the left exists in a totally alternate universe where up is down and down is up. Orwell completely underestimated the craziness that the 21 century would become. I think the only “fix” for education, as currently constituted, is to go into the schools (and Dept. of Education) with flamethrowers and burn the hissing nest out.

    • MikeofAges

      The them, their universe is not alternate. They imagine that once their “fixes” are implemented, everybody will become a highly actualized “ideal” man or woman. Why, the average dope will be as Emerson or maybe Du Bois. And the people we call “talented” today — well, they will make Einstein and Maxwell look like nursery students. Probably, in this imaginary world, Le Bron James would have to be a ball boy!

  • FransSusan

    The idiots in Washington like Holder & Obama know nothing of what goes on in most schools. They should keep their noses out of school related matters; so should the rest of politicians! But here they are looking for someone/something else to blame for black dysfunction other than the fact that blacks are just dysfunctional, and their behavior and attitudes are not civilized. The true problem is with the black race and their incapability of fitting into a civilized society. It’s never going to happen. No matter what the corrupt government mandates, blacks are never going to change. You have to get these disruptive, useless excuses for human out of the classroom so as not to destroy everyone else’s right to an education.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    People talk about this pipeline like it actually exists.

    Somehow school discipline leads to imprisonment? It’s inanity. The exact opposite is likely true. If the kid isn’t in school he’s likely to go to prison earlier; and if teachers don’t discipline the kid, he is likely to be more of a loose cannon throughout life.

    Leave it to blacks, even black “intellectuals” like Holder, to not be able to ascertain the simplest rules of human nature.

    • dd121

      Sir, you’re making the fundamental error of thinking liberals are capable of rational thought and of making rational decisions.

      • Mergatroyd

        I think they know exactly what they’re doing, which is to turn violent, uncivilized blacks loose in White neighborhoods, areas like malls and schools to assault and terrorize Whites.

        • I’m not so certain about most of the liberals. Plenty of them imagine a world in which they would like to live and then pretend they actually live in such a world.

          My high school girlfriend was a liberal. She was either the smartest pretty girl in a class of 600 or the prettiest smart girl. Her tragic flaw was that she was a liberal. Our fathers were both university professors: really bright ones. Mine was as mean as a three-day hangover with dry-heaves, a wife- and child-beater. Hers was by any account a nice guy. Diane went through her formative years believing that nobody was genuinely evil, while during those same years I had to live with genuine evil.

  • Reverend Bacon

    I just finished reading Jack Cashill’s book, “If I had a son…” about Trayvon Martin and the railroading of George Zimmerman. He talks about how the Miami School PD stopped arresting the delinquents like Trayvon, and instead dealt with it “internally.” In other words, they did nothing. Trayvon kept thinking that he was a teflon gangster, and would never have to pay the consequences for his burglaries, drug selling, and fighting.

    Lying to the savages early on isn’t doing them any favors. Instead, it’s making it more likely that they turn 18 and are seasoned felons.

    Holder is a complete idiot.

    • Mergatroyd

      This “can’t touch me” attitude is being carried out into the streets with blacks brazenly knocking out elderly Whites. Six people have died as a result of this sick game and black attitude that they can do anything they want and get away with it.

      It is making the world far more dangerous for us and our children. The only answer is concealed carry, avoid blacks whenever possible and constantly be aware of your surroundings.

      • Reverend Bacon

        Blacks use the knockout game for warmups, when they’re bored. The fact that they do it with relative impunity is incredible. But of course it emboldens them, knowing that in any interracial violence, the courts will have their backs.

        There were two hammer attacks in Florida since Saint Skittles was martyred. Both by blacks against whites. One woman died at the hands of 3 beasts, and one man is probably in a persistent vegetative state from an attack by 2.

        There are so many black-on-white attacks that go beyond the knockout game. They are all hush crimes, and go unreported. But the blacks talk about it, and they know that they can do this. Yes, some of them get caught, but many don’t.

        Your 3-part answer is the smart one. You might want to add “keep a good attorney on speed dial.”

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Not to mention “shoot then scoot.” In other words, if possible, kill them then flee the scene, do not call the cops if you weren’t hurt yourself. Keep quiet about it if the police don’t figure out it was you who blew a couple of black thugs heads apart.

    • Once they’re 18 it really is too late. Their formative years in which they might possibly learn a little self-discipline are largely over, and 18 is the cutoff for when being charged of criminal offenses as an adult – rather than as a minor – is universal and automatic. At 18, it isn’t up to a school district to have a student-offender charged with a genuine crime; if it is a serious one, it’s up to the local DA’s office at that point.

    • Charles W.

      I am in the middle of that book right now as well. Fantastic read.

  • FransSusan

    We all have knee-gro fatigue and here this idiot is dreaming up new strategies to destroy civilization.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    I shudder to ask that question, but I frankly thing nothing will be left for us, except to ensure they conquer nothing but ashes and graves.

  • JohnEngelman

    In American schools, black students without disabilities were more than three times as likely as whites to be expelled or suspended, according to government civil rights data collection from 2011-2012.

    – Kimberly Hefling, Big Story, January 8, 2014

    Because the black rate of violent crime is nearly eight times the white rate, I suspect that that the schools are going easy on black students. The black rate of expulsion and suspension should be increased, not reduced.

  • willbest

    The thing that raw data won’t tell you is the attitude used by the student and parent during the punishment process.

  • MooTieFighter

    Most people I know that have recently started home schooling has been secondary to the behavior of blacks. My own children let me know the one or two in their class that causes chaos and slows learning is black. They often have to slow their own learning to help “tutor” these children. One of my friends started home schooling her child because black boys could not keep their hands off her and would call her racist or slut is she did not allow them to aggressively flirt with her. Now we are being told we can do even less to protect ourselves. Sickening.

    • The correct reply as a parent when your child’s teacher demands that he or she tutor dim-witted classmates is that you expect your child to be paid the going rate for in-class personal instruction. I imagine this is at least $30 an hour. I also believe full medical and dental coverage for the child tutors would be fair.

      Our children are not in school to do unpaid tutor work for the districts.

  • jackryanvb

    RACISM and racist witches are everywhere. The Soviet Union once had similar problems with Counter revolutionaries , Trotskyites. But, with America, it’s always been witches.

    Time to rev up the witch hunt.

  • Mergatroyd

    The teaching profession is on life support so the government will go overseas to recruit foreign teachers who don’t speak or understand English well. I always believe these things are done on purpose to deny Whites jobs.

    They’ll say teaching is a “jobs Americans won’t do.”

  • Peter Connor

    Of course, the DOJ didn’t “study” anything–this report was written before the study to further Holder’s anti-white political agenda.

  • Alexandra1973

    Oh, we might get a troll every now and again.

  • Eric Holder is a moron. Not disciplining problem kids is part of what produces criminal adults. With this demand, he is claiming we institute more of the same “slap-on-the-wrist” school policies that saw Trayvon Martin repeatedly skate on his increasingly criminal misbehavior, until he decided he was a “No-Limit Nigga”. The problem with learning that lesson from these things is that one eventually runs into another “No-Limit Nigga”, or a cop, or a neighborhood watch member with a CCW permit. It was precisely because some spineless liberals running a school district in Florida were in agreement with Holder’s line of “reasoning” (handling matters internally) that Trayvon Martin was able to learn such catastrophically incorrect and untimately fatal lessons from his run-ins with faux “discipline”.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      The best solution to the “No-Limit-Nigga,” are other “No-Limit Niggas,” as in let them kill each other behind bars.

  • A banana? Hmmmmm… no – I probably better not.

  • NeanderthalDNA

    “The administration said research suggests the racial disparities in how students are disciplined are not explained by more frequent or more serious misbehavior by students of color.”

    I’d love to look at that “research”.

    • MikeofAges

      Discipline has to speak to the individual. If nothing else, suspension is not violent discipline. Grave transgressions belong in the hand of the criminal justice system anyway.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Indeed, kids who rape or assault other kids, bring or use guns and other weapons, deal drugs and belong to gangs belong in jail, or a coffin.

    • Anna Tree

      Maybe they don’t think there should be a difference between a 3 cm plastic gun toy and a real gun…

  • Massif1

    DOJ will eventually give incentives to schools and police departments. Do not arrest blacks and hispanics, instead arrest whites. The federal government will give you extra money and additional gear for your cooperation.

  • mobilebay

    Good reason to bring back school segregation. Of course, that would leave Holder and his minions scrambling for excuses when the black schools were set on fire, or the cops had to break up knife fights every day.

    • With no civilized kids in those schools, why would it be necessary to break up the knife fights?

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Police can simply double tap all of them between the eyes when they arrive.

        • My thinking would be to just chain the doors shut from the outside, wait a week, and then send in a cleanup crew with body bags, mops, hoses and buckets. Police have better things to do.

  • MikeofAges

    David Reisman, in the “The Lonely Crowd”, covered the sociological concept of “compliant resistance”. That means acting goody-goody as a way of showing up the the overlord or oppressor. Another socially conservative construct that served the good of generations of blacks, other minorities, and disadvantaged white immigrants from Europe for that matter. Who decided complaint resistance had to go, and engineered our social system in that direction?

  • shmo123

    Deportation may be the best way, but it has little chance of working. Even third world toilets in Africa would be loath to take people who are not citizens or weren’t born there. Today, the US government has problems deporting lawfully convicted criminals back to certain countries because those countries refuse to accept their own nationals (China, India, Vietnam, Jamaica, to name a few). It’s deplorable and cynical, and pressure should be made to bear on those countries to change their policies.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      This is why I think all foreign nationals caught committing violent crimes, trafficking or organized crime should be executed immediately on the spot or when captured. These hostile nations are using their criminal scum and terrorists to wage war on us, so therefore we should kill them, all of them as enemy guerillas would be. When they learn of their criminals being shot dead then thrown to the hogs, they will know the US won’t be their dumping ground any more.

  • MikeofAges

    From experience, I can’t say I fully agree with idea. After complete segregation began to break down in the late 1940s and before the disparate impact or affirmative action system came in, there was a brief “equality” era. During this time, there was, I think, a movement toward better behavior. The “mantra” of non-violence was operative during that time too, and probably helped the situation. Imagine that, getting along better by not being violent.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    My sister is a teacher, and she probably would agree with your remark that teaching in primary or secondary education is a career on life support.

  • Shadrach

    Liberalism has DESTROYED the Public School System!!!!

    • Garrett Brown

      Blacks and mestizos becoming a majority*

  • “Racism… to make them look bad”?

    There was a link to a news story up above in which a black guy rammed his car into a convenience store in order to steal a banana. Not only was this breaking and entering and burglary, but the damage to the Afritard’s vehicle was doubtless more substantial than what a banana would have cost him (and last I checked, Wal Mart is open 24/7.) Any group of retards who are ramming vehicles into convenience stores in order to steal bananas certainly needs no outside help from “racists” in order to look bad.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    It will lead to a lot more blacks filling body bags than they already are. Just wait and see how many will start being shot and killed by police and or whites they attack in their homes, businesses or anywhere else they have every right to be.

  • Guest

    A hostile population of thugs has no solution other than search and destroy. In other words, it will require a racial and civil war to root out and kill them and their enablers. It’s far too little, way too late for a non-violent solution. We need an Enemy Infiltrator act, which provides for execution of ALL illegals caught committing violent offenses, participating in any sort of organized crime or terrorism, or involved in any sort of trafficking contraband. The law should be applied on the first offense, then off to the execution pits for them.

  • humura

    First the Left launches a major media campaign against bullying, and now the Obama crowd tells schools, you better not expel the real bullies.

  • Major

    “But after they’ve been body-slammed, set alight, threatened with a shiv, or sexually assaulted for the sixth or seventh time, even THESE debutante dimwits begin to see the light. ..”

    If that’s true and it takes the dimbulbs that long to come to their senses after even ONE attack….I’d say they deserve the rest of it. Or they just like it?

  • KissThe Pussy

    Thank you for your excellent summary of the education system USA 2014 …. a total fiasco and we know why.

  • I home-school my daughter, but I don’t want black children to be able to get even halfway through their school assignments. Blacks were not brought to the Americas to read, write, cipher and vote.

  • Fathercoughlin

    One aspect of this new law involves limiting the ability of principals to suspend students. Less discretion for principals,eh? Hasnt ALL this school reform crap been about how the PRINCIPAL must have more discretion running his schoo? (Deliberate spelling) Now with re to the violent crime and sexual assaults and bullying and terrorozing going on in the schoo,we’re going to limit the power of the guy who RUNS da place to suspend the negro thugs. As Bill Cosby would say,”RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!”

  • Truth Teller

    Murgatroyd mentioned that the goverment will recruit foreign teachers. About 20 years ago there was an article in National Review about what happened after New York City decided to recruit Spanish speaking teachers from Spain.
    Almost all the teachers were young women recent grads. They were given a week of orientation and thrown into the lion’s den. None, not one lasted to the second term. Many left after the first week. Others left as soon as they got their first paycheck to buy a ticket home.
    I think the ony foreign teachers who could cope with the savages would be from England, France, Scandanavia where the muslims treat the teaches as the blacks do in America.
    Maybe not. I understand the m uslim girls in europe behave like normal human beings, not like the black female savages who behave as badly as the black boys.

  • Truth Teller

    Murgatrod mentioned hiring foreign teachers. About 20 years ago National REview had an article about that. The New York City system decided to hire native Spanish speaker teachers to accommodate the hordes of hispanics.
    Almost all the teachers were recent grads from Spanish universities mostly women. After a week of orientation they were thrown to the lions. Some lasted as long as Christmas. None showed up in January after the Christmas break. Some left after a week. Others stayed until they got their first paycheck to pay for a ticket home.