Synopsis

Weak widespread (polygenic) selection is a mechanism that acts on multiple SNPs simultaneously. The aim of this paper is to suggest a methodology to detect signals of polygenic selection using educational attainment as an example. Educational attainment is a polygenic phenotype, influenced by many genetic variants with small effects. Frequencies of 10 SNPs found to be associated with educational attainment in a recent genome-wide association study were obtained from HapMap, 1000 Genomes and ALFRED. Factor analysis showed that they are strongly statistically associated at the population level, and the resulting factor score was highly related to average population IQ (r=0.90). Moreover, allele frequencies were positively correlated with aggregate measures of educational attainment in the population, average IQ, and with two intelligence increasing alleles that had been identified in different studies. This paper provides a simple method for detecting signals of polygenic selection on genes with overlapping phenotypes but located on different chromosomes. The method is therefore different from traditional estimations of linkage disequilibrium. This method can also be used as a tool in gene discovery, potentially decreasing the number of SNPs that are included in a genome-wide association study, reducing the multiple-testing problem and required sample sizes and consequently, financial costs.

Results

Tables 1a and 1b report frequencies of alleles associated with higher educational attainment (“beneficial” for short) for the 14 populations of 1000 Genomes and the 11 HapMap populations (list-wise deletion of missing data). Frequencies of the 10 SNPs were averaged for each population, so as to obtain a single reliable value (or polygenic score) that also avoided the problem of multiple comparisons. The polygenic score is reported in the last column. The results are similar across the HapMap and 1000 Genomes data sets: East Asian populations (Japanese, Chinese) have the highest average frequency of “beneficial” alleles (39%), followed by Europeans (35.5%) and sub-Saharan Africans (16.4%).

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Discussion
The national ranking for scores on standardized tests of educational attainment closely mirrors the gradient observed in frequencies of genes associated with this construct. East Asians have the highest frequencies of alleles beneficial to educational attainment (39%) and consistently outperform other racial groups both within the US and around the world, in terms of educational variables such as completion of college degree or results on standardized tests of scholastic achievement. Europeans have slightly lower frequencies of educational attainment alleles (35.5%) and perform slightly worse in terms of educational attainment, compared to East Asians. On the other hand, Africans seem to be disadvantaged both with regards to their level of educational attainment in the US and around the world. Indeed, Africans have the lowest frequencies of alleles associated with educational attainment (16%).

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  • bigone4u

    Everyone seems to be clustered fairly tightly around 35 except for blacks. Even Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are in the 30s. While this result has enormous implications for educational policy, it will be ignored and/or demonized as “waycist.” There’s too much invested in the false narrative of equality and so we will continue to live in a brave new world of lies that will ultimately destroy us.

    • Sue

      They already know this. They also do their best to bring down white averages. It’s why they push so hard to force us into thinking we’re not intelligent.

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    • IstvanIN

      It would be interesting to separate Puerto Ricans and Mexicans by race (European, mulatto, black, Indian) and see the results.

    • Max Krakah

      To me this says that blacks are not capable of functioning in our society.

      • Edruezzi

        This will most likely never be posted but I’m sure the gatekeepers here will read it. They probably matter more than the posters. On second thought they’re the only ones who matter. You drones who come to this site to post stuff never mattered and never will. That’s just the way it is.
        If you look on the right of the page a bunch of books are on sale. That’s what this site is about. Some people make a living from selling books to trailer park bigots like you, books that reaffirm their ignorant racist belief system. Let’s see how you’d function in society if you’d gone through what blacks went through.

        • BillMillerTime

          Go peddle that white guilt somewhere else. Go back far enough, and everyone had ancestors that were slaves, or persecuted, or damned near exterminated. GET OVER IT. You’re using the term “racism” as an excuse for black pathologies. Look at the blacks in Canada. There was no slavery there, no Jim Crow laws, no lynchings, so it’s really hard for you to blame the white man, and yet the black-white IQ differential exists, blacks are overrepresented among the prison population, etc. Look at Negroes *anywhere* in the world, and you’ll find similar patterns.

          You are the arrogant ignorant bigot who sneers at books you’ve never read and that you never will read. You casually dismiss scientists you’ve never heard of. You are utterly closed-minded.

          By the way, we’re STILL waiting for you to prove your claim that there’s some study somewhere out there on IQ that supported the notion that Negroes have a higher average IQ than whites. You haven’t identified such a study because IT DOES NOT EXIST. I can name hundreds of studies all showing the black-white average IQ differential. It comes out to about one standard deviation.

          Instead of bring facts to the table, you merely attack your opponents, stomping your feet while scream “racism!” And then accuse me of having majored in sociology, as if that has anything to do with the questions before us.

          Why accuse *us* of racism? We whites didn’t design Negro brains to be 6% smaller than Caucasian brains. Maybe Mother Nature is the “racist.”

          • Edruezzi

            Maybe you should check your data. Negro brains are about the same size as white brains, and when it comes to brains, size really doesn’t matter. An elephant and a blue whale have brains larger than those of humans, and Neanderthal brains were larger than ours and the Neanderthals are extinct.

          • Edruezzi

            1. I don’t believe in white guilt. Whites have actually gone out of their way to treat other groups of people better. White nations fall over themselves to apologize for the slave trade and so on and meanwhile Japan has been silent about its wartime record. If anything, whites may be doing too much atoning. The Mandela funeral was ridiculous. Of course Bono was there.

            2. The Negro IQ superiority study I cited keys in with my belief that no particular race has an IQ higher or lower than any other race. As i see it, directional selection for human intelligence peaked around 95,000 years ago. Newtons and Einsteins pop up now and then, but I don’t think any population has more of them than any other. Some tests will show higher white scores. Some will show higher black scores. There are more pressing things to be worrying about.

            3. Sociology is a major we may need more of. We understand how the Higgs boson works and have only anecdotal knowledge of how human societies work. I think that’s scandalous.

            4. Literally, if one race is “superior” to another Mother Nature is the racist.

            5. As for black Canadians, I’ll always remember my shock when Donovan Bailey beat a field of African American runners at the 96 Atlanta Olympics. I didn’t know Canada had that many black people. I don’t know much about them. I’ve never been to Canada, and I’m not interested. Canada doesn’t make that many Boyz in the Hood movies.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Well, I happen to be one of those white folks who can outscore Asians across the board, so I am not the least bit offended.
    GOSH! I, I, I just realized something!!
    Could it be possible… that I could be… part.. umm you know, part ASIAN?
    I mean I do like those half white Asian women, especially that one on Pretty Little Liars!

    • Daniel Schmuhl

      White IQ may have been higher than East Asian IQ at one point, we know that fertility has been dysgenic since the 19th century.

      • ben no

        Japanese don’t have many children anymore, and yet their IQ is not suddenly slipping.

        • Daniel Schmuhl

          It is about who is having the kids. Most of the whites having the kids these days are dummies (no offense).

          Most high IQ whites these days have below replacement fertility.

          • BaronBaal

            Absolutely. It used to be that wealthy whites had plenty of kids but nowadays they have only one or 2. Same thing goes to the middle class.

          • David Ashton

            In Britain the left-liberal newspaper “The Observer” for years past has advocated or celebrated childlessness among its above-average IQ female readers.

      • Edruezzi

        Why is it that in spite of Asia’s IQ, it was the Europeans who were in Japan and China and India and not the Asians landing on British or French shores? I mean, as far back as the 4th Century BC Alexander could have gotten deep into India if his troops didn’t balk. Why didn’t the Japanese cross the Pacific circa 1492 and REALLY get to own California? Maybe we are conflating test-taking ability with some thought processes that are extremely important. Most IQ tests are multiple choice questions, right? Well, the complexities of the real, dynamic world don’t appear in the form of tidy, multiple choice questions that are stated clearly. Just framing and isolating the proper question out of the buzzing confusion of the world is a test of intelligence.
        Well, that’s just my little bit.

    • Conrad

      Many Germans are part Asian because of the invasions of the Mongols. I am 2% EA myself. I have a good respect for Asians due to their greater intelligence.

      • IstvanIN

        Good grief, Engleman has a brother.

      • Peter Connor

        I don’t think that cultures who mostly copy Dead White Males can really be more intelligent than Europeans, at least at the top.

      • BaronBaal

        The Germans? No way, but yes, Bulgarians and Hungarians do have a significant amount of Asian DNA in them but the funny thing is that both countries have lower IQs than Germany. Go figure.

        • Sick of it

          Shh, we’re not supposed to question the Engelmen Doctrine!

    • Conrad

      Many Germans are partly Asian due to the Mongol invasions of Europe. I am 2% EA myself. I have a good respect for EAs because of their greater intelligence.

      • Ella

        Not so, many Germans never inter-racially mixed with the Mongols and Huns. Invaders were only brief at the time and had no intention to colonize the lands longterm. Secondly, they killed so many Slavs and Germans(over half), which showed that they had low interest with European Barbarians. For Swedes, the rivers were open waterways for Vikings to find and take women. That is a different story for Germany, Russia and Poland.

        • rightrightright

          Genghis Khan is the ancestor of 8% of human males, predominantly in the Far East but his lineage is also found to be disproportionately high in Eastern Europe including Russia. Women were booty and rape the equivalent of a sugary snack after a hard day’s work.

          • Ella

            You look at 1/2 to 1/4 and multiply by 1/2 up to 80 generations? Technically, it should be diluted out through gene depletion. When is it scientifically considered diluted out? I don’t really know –just asking. Not all women were raped but looking at the Asian invaders, it’s hard to know the real numbers. Highest concentrations of Huns were in Hungary, Russia like you mentioned and Southeast Europe, not Germany.

          • Edruezzi

            The westward advance of the Mongols stopped just outside Germany after the death of Subotai or so forced their generals to return to their homeland to work out the succession.

          • Edruezzi

            8% of human males. Genghis must have worked his way through a lot of wenches.

      • Triarius

        There is no evidence for that. The Mongols never got that far west and they did not intermix very much in Eurasia. The later Golden Horde either killed entire cities or took them as a satrapy and were left alone as long as they contributed to the Horde’s army (Kingdom of Georgia, etc.).

        Crimean Tatars were a different story, but they were eventually annihilated and some were caste out. Most slavs and half breeds taken by the Tatars were sold to the Ottomans to be oarsmen or laborers. Muscovy or later Russia never considered Tatars or partial ones of their own, and sometimes kiled on site.

        • Max Krakah

          The Tatars still exist. Not in Crimea, but there is a Crimean Tatar diaspora.

          • Triarius

            Because the Tatars are 95% European in the 21st century. In the 15th century the a Tatars were direct descendants of the Golden Horde. Are you confusing them with the Cossacks? Fun fact. Read the letter the Cossacks wrote to the Ottoman Empire.

            Edit: like I said the Tatars were exiled (those not killed). Al-Jazeera even made a documentary about them tryojg to get back into Russia this year. Oh the irony.

    • Marina Smith

      just dont burn coal or your kid might end up like this

      • dd121

        I don’t wish to be impolite, but kill it with fire!

        • Spartacus

          Do it twice, just to be sure !

    • Peter Connor

      Very likely.

    • BaronBaal

      Geeze, and I used to think I was smart until those damn Asians came along. That means my Chinese wife is smarter than me and our son is too because he’s half Chinese. Man, this really sucks.

  • DNA Explains It All

    And this is NEWS to whom exactly?

  • Daniel Schmuhl

    Even if we had a complete understanding of intelligence and the racial gap in it, the leftists would still deny it. Much like true theories such as gay germ theory, the biological basis of anti-Semitism, the developmental damage caused by feminism etc, racial differences in intelligence is a priori false because it conflicts with the PC liberal faith.

    • David Ashton

      PC “liberalism” is indeed a secular religion, reinforced by its cult organisers by restriction of information and discussion and sanctions against dissenters, with the problem that it is also “the ideology of western suicide” (James Burnham).

    • Frank_DeScushin

      Yep. Just today I was arguing with Libs who were chalking up the disparity in arrests and the academic achievement gap as signs of institutional racism. Their solution was to spend more on education and police certain areas and crimes less. Nothing, absolutely nothing, will change these people’s minds.

      • Ella

        I think you have liberals in your family like me, so we see first hand their numerous biases and Utopian quests. They will go to their grave with their multicult doctraines.

        • William Krapek

          I was a hardened liberal. Then two years working in a convenience store in a black neighbor cured me of that.

          • Ella

            That is a scary job to work in a high crime area at a convenience store.

          • Edruezzi

            A couple of months working as an electrical engineer for Shell in the Angolan oil fields convinced me Africa will kill us all. I mean, the most sophisticated export to come out of the place in the last 50 years was the HIV virus.

        • David Ashton

          People of relatively high IQ can be quite susceptible to ideological fantasies.

          • Max Krakah

            IQ does not translate into wisdom.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        You have to know when to cut your losses. Some Whites, including family members, are completely brainwashed and hopeless. Move on and take care of yourself and your family. They aren’t worth arguing with and won’t realize what is happening to us Whites until it is far too late.

      • David Ashton

        Unless they become personally victims of “black” crime (though not even then, admittedly in some cases), as happened to an ex[?]-leftist nordic episcopalian of AmRen’s acquaintance.

      • Edruezzi

        When that great white homeland is created they should be hauled off to it kicking and screaming.

    • William Krapek

      I never heard of the “gay germ theory.” It’s intriguing. I don’t think the gays should be too upset by it. Its just proves it’s not a choice.

      I know there’s evidence SOME homosexuality in boys is caused by the mother getting stressed out at about six weeks of gestation. And the youngest sons in a log line of BROTHERS are also much more likely to be gay. Maybe it’s nature’s way of making sure there aren’t too many boys for competition?

      • Kenner

        Theory seems to be that women start producing hormones that affect later male fetuses; the female body treats them almost as foreign bodies.

        • Max Krakah

          A theory, based on one study, with no evidence. It is symptomatic of what “science” has become these days. The researchers had the idea, and they fit the data to prove the idea. Others have looked at the study and aren’t impressed.

      • Brian

        The odds of a man being gay go up by 1/3 for each successive brother…so the third son is about twice as likely to be gay as the eldest son. Mom’s body has to supply masculinizing hormones in utero. It may not be the whole story (Greg Cochran’s gay germ idea is intriguing), but it could be a risk factor. I’d suspect, though, there is no ‘intent’ behind it either way (too many competing boys), just an embryonic malfunction.

        • William Krapek

          So would be no evolutionary drive to fix that problem since such a woman will still produce plenty of viable men – and I’m reading intent into this. Just like there’s no evolutionary pressure to live a long time past child bearing years.

          (At least I don’t think there is.)

          Huh.

          • Brian

            There does appear to be some evolutionary advantage for living past child-bearing, just not as much. In traditional societies, both hunter-gatherer and agricultural, with extended families living together, the elders can provide assistance. A couple with young children could have a better chance of survival for those children if they had the grandparents/in-laws living with them.

            I think it’s the same way here– the gay issue doesn’t make much of a dent in spreading the genes because it doesn’t ramp up much till there are more children born to a woman anyway— and besides, historically, many gay men would have gotten married to women and produced children anyway. They may not have been thrilled to do it for pleasure, but would have ‘done their duty’. I’m just saying homosexuality could be a ‘malfunction’ that depresses reproduction/survival (even left-handedness does that), not by design but as a side effect of some other genetic combination that does add survival advantage. Kind of like how if you get one copy of the sickle cell gene, you are resistant to malaria, but if you get two copies, you have the disease and die. It’s a tradeoff.

          • Max Krakah

            wrong, the study about more older male siblings increasing the chance of a child being gay are flawed. There are plenty of only children who are gay.

          • Brian

            Of course there are plenty of gay only children. And you haven’t demonstrated that the original study is flawed, only that someone else hasn’t replicated it.

          • Max Krakah

            No, they questioned the data used, it was non representational and reports of a siblings sexuality were not independently corroborated. Sounds like it was a rather shoddy study.

          • Max Krakah

            No one study is definitive, if it can not be replicated, it is not conclusive. You yourself admit you have this ONE study, and it has not been replicated.

          • Brian

            You yourself admit you have this ONE study
            ===
            I did? News to me. You seem to be suggesting that the idea of birth order effect is wrong, but all you’ve done is point to one study as being methodologically flawed/uncertain. It may well be, but that is a long way from ruling out the claim.

            The ONLY factor that has EVER been shown to correlate with an increased incidence of homosexuality in men is the absence of a father.
            ===
            Direction of hair crown whorl, incidence of left-handedness, and index/ring finger length ratio are correlated as well. And there’s what you quoted: “Add Health survey but with broader analysis, saw a very weak correlation of male same-sex attraction with having multiple older brothers.”

          • Max Krakah

            Those correlations are weak. Very very weak. Look, you obviously want to justify something and you are willing to debase science to do so. There is just no disputing the fact that the presence or absence of a father has been connected with the incidence of homosexuality. Nothing you mention erases that fact. I am not suggesting that it is a “chosen” orientation. I am suggesting that the child did not complete certain stages of development where a father or important male figure, is essential.

          • Brian

            Look, you obviously want to justify something and you are willing to debase science to do so.
            ===
            You think _I_ am the one doing the axe-grinding? A creationist accusing me of ‘debasing science’ is fairly amusing though.

            There is just no disputing the fact that the presence or absence of a
            father has been connected with the incidence of homosexuality.
            ===
            I never claimed that had no effect. My claim is that some other factors appear to have an effect.

          • Max Krakah

            To claim a purely biological effect is to claim that is the cause. To show a social or developmental cause refutes that.

          • Brian

            I did not claim a purely biological effect. Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth? My position is that birth order correlates. I did not say that was the one and only factor.

          • Guest

            “McConaghy (2006) found no relationship between the strength of the effect and degree of homosexual feelings, rather than homosexual identity or homosexual behavior, leading him to conclude that the influence of birth order on degree of homosexual feelings was not due to a biological, but a social process.[17]”

          • Brian

            So McConaghy is admitting there IS a correlation with birth order, but socially driven rather than biologically. Didn’t you just claim the birth order thing doesn’t even exist?

          • Max Krakah

            You are desperate to assign an organic cause to homosexuality. IT is clear though that there is a social cause, or developmental cause. Neither study about birth order is definitive and both of them are questionable. There is no questioning the increased incidence of homosexuality in cases where the father is absent. Sorry, no way around it. Who knows, perhaps there may be some biology that makes some individuals more susceptible, under the circumstance of having a distant or absent father, of turning out gay.

          • William Krapek

            Whatever the case, if it’s true it is what it is. And the germ theory is a millions miles from being established anyway. Just something to keep an eye on.

        • skara_brae

          That explains Andy Gibb.

        • Max Krakah

          Those studies were flawed, there is contrary evidence

          “Bearman and Brückner (2008) argue that studies showing a fraternal birth order effect have used nonrepresentative samples and/or indirect reports on siblings’ sexual orientation. Their analysis, focusing on opposite-sex twins, did not find an association “between same-sex attraction and number of older siblings, older brothers, or older sisters”.[18] A study by Francis (2008), using the same Add Health survey but with broader analysis, saw a very weak correlation of male same-sex attraction with having multiple older brothers (but did find a significant negative correlation of male same-sex attraction with having older sisters).[19]”- from wiki

      • Max Krakah

        The ONLY factor that has EVER been shown to correlate with an increased incidence of homosexuality in men is the absence of a father. Lesbian couples who raise a son have a much greater incidence of homosexuality in the son. Two gay males that raise a son have no increased rate of producing a homosexual child. It is also well documented that in postwar Germany, the incidence of homosexuality showed a substantial increase. This was amongst children who had lost fathers in the war.

        • Kenner

          Last year a lesbian pair sent their son to school wearing a dress and painted fingernails. It creeped me out of my mind.

  • DaveMed

    “Two single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) whose associations with intelligence seem to be robust because they have been replicated in several independent studies were chosen as representative of intelligence increasing alleles…”

    This is what I like about the study. It sounds like they have managed to control for race and determined those polymorphisms to be indicative of relatively higher abilities even within groups.

    Certainly a bookmark-worthy piece.

  • D.B. Cooper

    The headline alone is too confusing for (ahem) “some people”.

    • Max Krakah

      ” so does dat means I hits my obammaphone?”

  • Luca

    How long before Davide Piffer is run out of town on a rail? Clearly this is hate literature.

    Although it will be fun to see liberals go through mental gymnastics and verbal contortions to explain how unimportant this study really is and that it proves nothing.

    • John_HD

      Why, you can practically hear the charges of “Pseudo-Science” already. Evidence simply doesn’t matter to these people. They’re too invested in their non-theistic religion.

    • Brian

      Or they’ll say it’s a good reason for us all to miscegenate away the differences and merge into a uniform beige mass.

  • JohnEngelman

    This article could have been written more clearly. It almost read as though Davide Piffer was trying to write over the heads of the censors. Let us hope those censors got their jobs through an affirmative action program.

    If I understand the article, Davide Piffer is saying that genes for superior intelligence have been discovered, that these genes vary according to race, and that races with the highest gene averages also have the highest IQ averages.

    Moreover, selection for superior intelligence seems to be comparatively recent in human evolution. Orientals and American Indians share more genes than does either group with European Caucasians. Nevertheless, European Caucasians and Orientals tend to have more high IQ genes than do American Indians.

    The comparatively recent evolution of superior intelligence can be explained by the comparatively recent development of civilization. During most of the history of civilizations intelligent men tended to have more descendants than unintelligent men.

    Contemporary dysgenics is a recent development.

    As more genes for superior intelligence are discovered it will become increasingly difficult to present an argument against race realism that has any claim to scientific objectivity.

    • Conrad

      The article also highlights the usefulness of my little phrase – reason, logic, eugenics.

    • Berkeley Guy

      It is possible he couched the results in recondite terms. But having read papers about IQ on PubMed and in other places, the style of writing he uses appears to be standard.

      I agree that his results are as you summarize. Of course, not only will it be difficult for people to argue against race-realism (perhaps ‘population group realism’ as well within races such as Arabic, e.g. the Ashkenazim vs Sephardic Jews?), but also to argue against the races who claim higher scores such as East Asians. If blacks and Hispanics complain that Asians have successfully lobbied the UC system to mostly look at GPA and test scores, and that now they are the dominant race in undergraduate enrollments overall at several UC schools, such as here at Berkeley, then who is going to call Asians racist? From my personal experience, Asians either don’t care that you call them racist, or if they do then they aren’t worried about groups that are not as politically active about education (probably whites helped in repealing affirmative action tactics in the UC system as well), secure in the fact that words are merely words. I have never seen blacks or Hispanics, or any other race blaim Asians for racism.

      Sorry, but what do you mean by contemporary dysgenics?

      • Kenner

        Contemporary dysgenics: paying women a cash bonus every time they pop out another low-IQ, low-impulse control, ‘present time’ oriented child.
        See: Detroit.

    • Terra Magnum Imperium

      Maybe but historically European Caucasians had a much tougher time establishing stable societies then more isolated East Asian cultures also EA’s have a much Larger numeric advantage then EC’s.
      But my question now is how do these each of these 10 SNIPS out of some 10 million in the human genome affect different types of learning?

  • dd121

    The author is stepping very lightly. It won’t protect him from leftist attacks though.

    • JohnEngelman

      If he keeps his job the constraints of politically correct though control are weakening.

    • David Ashton

      “Race realism” gets some hearing because it puts Jews and Chinese high on the intellectual scale. If “white Gentiles” came out right on top, the cat would really be among the pigeons, and all those nordic episcopalians who like the exotic would have to find another website.

      • Daniel Schmuhl

        That seems to be the case. Steven Pinker and Jared Diamond will gleefully discuss superior Ashkenazi IQ but will distance themselves from claims about other group differences. In Diamonds case he believes Papua New Guineans have superior intelligence even though science shows that is false.

    • ben no

      Are you kidding me? He’ll ripped apart.

  • DailyKenn

    *
    Like a tree falling in a forest…
    If Jason Richwine is vindicated and none hear it, does it make a sound?

  • Mergatroyd

    This article is far too pedantic and scholarly to garner any attention. It’ll be ignored the same way Rushton and Jensen’s articles and books are completely ignored.

    How many Americans are left that could even make sense out of such words and vocabulary? To most it is complete gobbledygook.

    polygenic selection
    multiple SNPs simultaneous
    polygenic phenotype
    HapMap, 1000 Genomes and ALFRED
    allele frequencies
    aggregate measures
    overlapping phenotypes
    linkage disequilibrium.

    That’s just from the first paragraph.

    East Asian populations (Japanese, Chinese) have the highest average frequency of ‘beneficial’ alleles (39%) followed by Europeans (35.5%)

    Then why is Asian cultural output so low as compared to that of Whites? Nor is this an argument for White race replacement by Asians, they have their own land called “Asia.”

    • Thank you for saying what I wanted to say, and what needed to be said. The title alone is enough to make me want to put my own head in a vice and slowly turn the lever until the pain goes away.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      Then why is Asian cultural output so low as compared to that of Whites?

      This is probably because they’ve been selecting against the 7R allele of the DRD4 gene. This allele is associated with ADHD, which is probably why they didn’t want it, but ADHD is associated with creativity, which means they’ve essentially been selecting for high-IQ, low-creativity people. The 7R allele is virtually absent in East Asia, but they have some of the derivative alleles, so we know they had it at one point.

      My source for this is Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending’s “The 10,000 Year Explosion”.

      • William Krapek

        Huh. The things I don’t know…

      • El_Baga_Doucha_Libtard

        They have the 2 repeat allele.

      • Terra Magnum Imperium

        Interesting, I have to check that out, it my explain why whites excel at thinking outside the box….

      • BonusGift

        Besides issues like forming the ‘European’ sample with all Europeans and contaminating it with non-Europeans yet comparing it to a sub-sample (Japanese and Chinese), and that whites have had their means drop since industrialization began (YT’s magic), etc.; they, of course, leave out the fact that their sub-sample of “Asians” has a narrower distribution (i.e., the standard deviation of Asian IQs is generally narrower than YT’s; therefore they have no true geniuses in a European sense and a thin or nonexistent right tail of the distribution). Therefore, there are making a comparison of apples to oranges and ignoring the distribution itself; that is, they focus only on the means or averages. Clearly this is done so that they do not appear to be ‘racist’ and can claim they are not targeting blacks, but it is poor science.

        • GeneticsareDestiny

          The distribution is very important too, I agree. I’m not saying that the 7R allele argument is the be all end all of white-Asian differences. It is simply one thing that separates whites and East Asians, and I think it might be an important part of the puzzle.

          Standard deviation is something we should be looking at a lot more often too.

          • BonusGift

            Yes, once you begin to unwind an onion of this type it tends to be more nuanced. What amazes me is the amount of print this site gives to speculative mean analysis comparing biased samples vs. actual comparison of achievement. I sense that political correctness/cultural Marxism even strongly influences whomever selects the emphasis here, just not so obviously as elsewhere.

      • Max Krakah

        I think the real issue is the frequency of the R2D2 Alleles and the C3PO alleles!

    • Davide Piffer had to protect himself somehow. Couching his ideas in scientific jargon might help him avoid Establishment fury. Still, I hope somebody translates this study into plain English for the rest of us.

    • Daniel Schmuhl

      I thought it was easy to understand for someone who has read several genetics textbooks and has a BS in biochemistry hehe.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        But obviously not for the average reader, and not a great way to get across one’s theory, no matter how important, to a wide audience.

    • El_Baga_Doucha_Libtard

      One thing that I noticed is that, while the average beneficial alleles were lower for whites than for Northeast Asians, for each individual allele, the whites were more consistent. That could lend credence to the theory that, while Northeast Asians are, on average more intelligent than whites, whites are more well-rounded in terms of intelligence, or we are just more intelligent where it counts.

      If you Google “are asians creative,” and click on the 1st link (on The Peksy Truth), you’ll see an article that I wrote. Anyway, my belief is that whites are more intelligent because we are smart and crazy, whereas the Northeast Asians are just smart (although I think that there might be something to my argument in the previous paragraph). GeneticsareDestiny mentioned the 7 repeat allele of DRD4. I also mentioned that in my article (and different alleles of 5 HTT).

    • White Dragon

      Why are we Whites stupid enough to allow them to take advantage of White altruism and compassion?

      Answer: Who cares about creativity when we we were genetically selected to be nicer. Niceness is killing us.

  • sbuffalonative

    So genes and their combinations influence intelligence. I knew that.

  • AutomaticSlim

    AMR = 31.8 ?
    So they clumped the blacks and mestizos in for the final result?

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      One should never analyze multiracial countries as a unity, since it is known that races differ in mental abilities. But perhaps these people still cannot liberate themselves from PC constraints. An “average IQ ” of a multiracial society is as useless as an “average skin color” of such a society.

      • BonusGift

        Bingo; which is why they don’t discuss such things or such things as the overall distribution itself.

  • Talltrees

    Americans 31.8. Puerto Ricans 31.7. Looks like all those who call themselves Whites from third-world countries are dumbing the country down. American Whites should be closer to Europe at 35.5 or even higher. What European countries were included in the study? I’m tired of being lumped with those who call themselves White. Hispanics, Middle Easterners.

    • Ella

      Then, they try to qualify for AA programs. grants, and other privileges as nonwhite as part of the ethnic advancement game. In Europe, at least there are no affirmative action programs as far as I know.

      • ShermanTMcCoy

        Sorry, Ella. Plenty here in Germany.

        • Ella

          On US Posts or Bases or AA programs through actual German corporations? Wow…….stupidity does spread.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            In the Netherlands AA is called “positive discrimination”.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            Coming from many “developing” countries seeking economic asylum, and handouts.

    • Truth Teller

      A lot of the Middle Eastern immigrants were from the Christian upper classes. I don’t see why their IQ would be lower, unless you believe families that have been in the upper class for generations (not new money) have the same IQ as the people surrounding them.

      • Talltrees

        Of course, higher IQ’s equal fewer in poverty over those with low IQ’s. They might represent higher IQ’s in their own countries, but are they that high here?

        I refer to a previous post about a German with a 4.0 GPA at an Ivy League University was not permitted to stay here, but Asian Indians, to use as an example, with 3.0 GPA’s and lower, had jobs waiting for them. Standards are lower for non-Whites.

        It appears it’s not so much how high the IQ is, it’s will those permitted to stay accept lower wages and whether they are White or non-White. In other words an Indian with an IQ of 100 might be considered good in India, but here it is average. It’s fairly easy to become very successful in a culture of average 85 IQ’s. An example of this is non-Whites are accepted to U.S. medical schools with 98 IQ’s. Whites must have at least 115. I suspect there are few third-worlders coming here who are exceptionally bright.

  • Rick Brooks

    Pat Buchanan defending the PC heretic Jason Richwine (from May, 13, 2013):

    “Our elites appear unanimous: Richwine’s view that intelligence is not equally distributed among ethnic and racial groups, and is partly inherited, is rankest heresy. Yet no one seems to want to prove him wrong.”

    My knowledge of genetics is rudimentary at best, but if many of the “alleles beneficial to educational attainment” have now been found can’t embryos and fetuses be screened for them? And If that’s so, this could trigger a new era of eugenics whether the egalitarians like it or not.

    • Extropico

      This is guaranteed to occur; and TPTB will be wont to distribute this genetic engineering to all races….so you see in time we are all the same…..

      • Rick Brooks

        I don’t know how you’d go into deepest, darkest Africa and explain to the natives that females who are pregnant need to have their fetuses genetically tested for IQ related genes and/or stop reproducing via intercourse and instead use IVF to conceive embryos so pre-implantation genetic diagnosis can be carried out.
        Richard Lynn regarded by many to be an “IQ expert” believes that you can increase the intelligence quotient of a population about 15 points each generation through embryos selection. (which for example would make whites about as smart as Jews are now) But if the average IQ for Africans is 80 under optimal environment conditions, you’re still going to see “gaps” between the races even if gene selection were (somehow) applied across the board.

        • Brian

          Simply ending the gravy train of foreign aid to Africa would be helpful.

    • David Ashton

      The Chinese have been stealing a march on us post-Hitler white people in the eugenics area.

      • ben no

        The Chinese demand that a couple can only have one child in the cities where the middle-classes will mostly live, and the poorer, working-class couples in villages, presumably, can have more than one child. This policy is in place due to their overpopulation. Technically, Chinese IQ should be slipping then.

        • David Ashton

          The Chinese apparently have decided not to rescinded the Han one-child policy, which was not forcibly imposed on ethnic minorities, but to apply it more carefully.

          See also: Frank Dikotter, “Imperfect Conceptions” (Columbia UP, 1998); Xin Mao, “Chinese Eugenic Legislation”, The Lancet, January 11, 1997; Richard Hoste, “The Coming Chinese Superstate”, The Occidental Quarterly, July 2, 2009.

  • Triarius

    Our issue with that is the white category is encompassed by all caucasians in the U.S., including some “white” hispanics. If you look at IQ by country Italy, Norway, Germany, etc. are all on par or higher than China, Japan, and so on. Thos remains true even with the high amount of immigrants in Europe. Israel’s IQ is laughable, though. Most Ashkenazi Jews are still ethnically German or Eastern European.

    The one constant is blacks and the darker hispanics are at the bottom every time, in every place.

    • Martel

      Could you quote some research concerning your last paragraph?

      • Triarius

        http://www.longcountdown (dot) com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/iq.gif

      • Triarius

        Double edit: In regards to the Caucasian thing, start here: http://en.wikipedia (dot) org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States_Census

        Follow it to the “.gov” websites.

        Triple edit: Look up the most wanted criminals in Texas or California. They all say the race is white even though they are from Mexico. It’s been on Amren before.

  • Peter Connor

    But if there is a set of genes for innovation and creativity, white males are way on top. That may, of course, be heavily cultural.

    • ben no

      “That may, of course, be heavily cultural.”

      Culture is a result of racial competence.

    • Max Krakah

      The only test for that has been “cultural achievement”. It is not something that academics and scientists can meddle with. They will forever be the ones chasing the achievers.

  • William Krapek

    I don’t track the Nobel Prize winners because I frankly don’t trust the process… or the scientific community’s ability to disseminate AND PROTECT people’s ideas. I think it’s been fine-tuned to make a certain group of “special whites” look good.

    Like, oh off the top of my head… Albert Einstein. Now there’s a real suspicious character for you. Never noticed it until somebody told me where to look. (Although there were plenty of things about his story that always struck me as rather odd. Like: WHY didn’t he win the Nobel Prize for relativity again?)

    :-/

    • Talltrees

      I agree with you. There’s a frequent poster here claiming Jews receive more Nobel Prizes. Wanted everyone to know Europeans receive the same number and more. .
      Einstein continues to get credit.

    • Max Krakah

      It is a common misconception that he devised the formula E=mc2. He didn’t, an Italian guy devised that years earlier. Einstein only used it in his work.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Max:

        From “Einstein the Incorrigible Plagiarist”

        www// amazon //com/Albert-Einstein-The-Incorrigible-Plagiarist/dp/0971962987

        The name ‘Einstein’ evokes images of genius, but was Albert Einstein, in fact, a plagiarist, who copied the theories of Lorentz, Poincare, Gerber, and Hilbert? A scholarly documentation of Albert Einstein’s plagiarism of the theory of relativity, ‘Albert Einstein: The Incorrigible Plagiarist’ discloses Einstein’s method for manipulating credit for the work of his contemporaries, reprints the prior works he parroted, and demonstrates through formal logical argument that Albert Einstein could not have drawn the conclusions he drew without prior knowledge of the works he copied, but failed to reference. Numerous republished quotations from Einstein’s contemporaries prove that they were aware of his plagiarism.

        At the end of WW II, Einstein wrote:

        tomatobubble // com/einstein // html

        The Germans can be killed or constrained after the war, but they cannot be re-educated to a democratic way of thinking and acting.’……it is hoped that by war’s end, they will largely have been killed off.

        Everyone knows Einstein as the “greatest genius ever,” right?

        Ever heard of the name Wilhelm Roengten?

        WILHELM ROENTGEN
        German Gentile
        Won Nobel Prize for physics
        Discovered X-Rays
        Developed first X-Ray device
        Advanced the field of medicine and saved countless lives
        Refused patents, wanted humanity to benefit from his invention

        Here is why his name has been “X”d out of history:

        www// tomatobubble// com/manifesto93 // html

        If we don’t salvage our own White history, who will?

        .

      • William Krapek

        I was also annoyed to read that it wasn’t Stephen Jay Gould who came up with the evolutionary theory of punctuated equilibria, but rather a fellow Gentile student. The one does all the work and makes the conceptual leap, the other gets the sexy international scientist bona fides. I’m sure for every spectacular case like this I know about there are dozens I don’t. Including several that led to Nobel Prizes.

  • WmarkW

    I’m not worried a couple point gap in either direction.
    The key is to be able to show that persistent achievement gaps do not constitute prima facie evidence that societal barriers by the majority are the reason for them. Once that’s shown, we can at least make the argument that the key to reducing gaps is to improve the behavior of blacks, not demand accommodations by whites.

    • Ellis Kurtz

      But to whom do we make the argument? Presumably to liberals. But they are too invested in the redemption of blacks to listen. After all, they continue to try one scheme after another to raise black academic performance. They have been doing this since at least 1954 (the date of the Brown Decision; improving black school performance was part of the justification for de-segregation). Nothing has worked, not charter schools, magnet schools, mentoring programs, Afrocentric curriculum, paying kids to learn, Head Start, No Child Left Behind.. Yet they continue undaunted.

  • David Ashton

    The “racially tribal” white people are entitled to resist subordination to “racially tribal” other people who have higher average IQ and to resist the disappearance of their own “tribe” and the lowering of its average IQ by racially crossing with “tribes” of much lower average IQ. However, shouldn’t some Jews be included in the white category, and are the IQ samples of the Mongolids cited by Rushton and Lynn truly representative of the whole population of East Asia, especially the peasant interior of China and its related neighbours?

    Personally I don’t think we should laugh at or bully very stupid people, but just avoid inviting them to dinner parties or bedroom parties.

  • Bossman

    What does “polygenic” means? This article is so vague as to be useless. Am I to assume that polygenic means many different kinds of genes? Is the article saying that the descendants of mixed races have more to choose from?

    • BonusGift

      The article is clearly meant to dance around the issues by biasing the results and not by doing such things as, for example, comparing equivalent sub-group to sub-group.

    • Brian

      Polygenic means that there are traits (height, intelligence, etc) which are not controlled by a single gene, but the interacting combination of hundreds of genes. There’s no ‘smart gene’ or ‘tall gene’, but you can sift through the genomes of tall people or smart people and find certain genes that tend to show up for them and not other people, or certain combinations that show up more often. You’re not looking for a needle in the haystack, but a pattern.

  • Triarius

    I never said Portugal, Spain, or Greece. But Italy is usually among the top worldwide. Look it up.

  • Brian

    There’s a lot more where this came from. The libtardinous folks who love mocking conservatives for being anti-science troglodytes better get used to dining on crow.

  • Brian

    I can readily acknowledge that the average oriental is smarter than the average white. But the white gaussian distribution is wider, producing both more deviants and more geniuses…much like the math ability of boys vs. girls (girls are clumped toward the middle, but boys dominate the best and worst).

    There is also the consideration that even if you acknowledge general superiority of some group, that doesn’t mean you want them replacing you. Low IQ black Africans could still make a viable claim that they don’t want to be colonized by Europeans– for good or ill, they want Nigeria for Nigerians. The same argument applies to Europeans.

  • emiledurk16

    No it doesn’t. But it means that your average white will probably exceed, in cognitive functions, that of a black, but probably will lag slightly behind in some physical functions. (see pro basketball)

    Somehow the phrase “white trash” is repulsive to my sensibilities. Good day.

  • Max Krakah

    IT makes one wonder about the asian scores. There are many people in Asia, China especially, that are illiterate to start with, so they weren’t tested. China has an educational system where only a very few go on to higher education. Such people move from the countryside to the city. I doubt very much that people in the countrysides of China are tested.

  • Martel

    That’s correct. You are close to becoming a race realist.

  • Martel

    People usually work in convenience stores because they need money.

  • OhWow

    The implications for this is huge.

    1. Segregation makes sense all of a sudden
    2. No more pouring taxpayer money into da ghetto
    3. It’s not racism, it’s realism
    4. It proves it’s not white racism, but genetic deficits that hold blacks back
    5. It explains the massive crime level of blacks
    6. They may not get as much influence especially in politics knowing how deficient they are

    Too bad yet another confirmatory study will be dismissed for being “racist”. Wasn’t there a Harvard scientist a year or two ago who did a study on IQ and genetics which came to similar conclusions and got fired or suppressed? This stuff is all too common. What a shame the world will still continue to act like Lateesha has hope to become a Neurosurgeon someday if only we can get rid of the racism preventing her from being one.

  • White Dragon

    If Whites are so creative, why can’t they find a solution to diversity which is destroying them? And the ‘you know who’.

  • Edruezzi

    Can anybody understand this?

  • Edruezzi

    This is both meaningless and has no scientific validity. The paper attempts to use fancy mathematical language to snow people under. All it’s saying is the old stuff about black people being dumb. Dressing it up in new, and impenetrable, jargon doesn’t change the message, where Mr. Piffer’s argument is at all clear. Imagine what some semi-illiterate would make of, say “linkage disequilibrium”. The person will turn to the wife, impressed at the big words, and say, “You see, they finally proved it, blacks are inferior”.

    • BillMillerTime

      Fact: The average African-American IQ is 85; the average Euro-American’s IQ is 100. That’s an entire standard deviation. Consider any test of cognitive ability and the same results obtain: the average black score is one deviation below the average white score.
      Why does it matter? It matters because there is a loud and incessant stream of propaganda which seeks to assign blame for black pathologies to white wickedness past and present. Black-white differences in achievement, success, proclivity for criminal violence, income differentials, etc., are said to be the “legacy of slavery.” If a black guy shows up to work late, somehow it’s my fault, right?
      The science shows that it isn’t the white man’s fault. Blacks are what they are because that’s the way that the good Lord/evolution made them. The average black brain is four ounces lighter than the average white brain.

      Stop blaming us for dysfunctional black lifestyle choices.

      It’s a shame that scientific papers are beyond your cognitive grasp.

      • Edruezzi

        I assure you that I can adequately handle scientific literature well beyond the level of the above writeup. My contention is that the paper uses jargon to say things that have been said for ages. I’ll tell you what propaganda is. That stuff about 85 being the standard black IQ and about it being fixed and inviolable is propaganda. Mr. Piffer’s paper is propaganda. Perhaps you could enlighten us on your qualifications.
        I might add that if I tested the people in two randomly selected subway cars in Manhattan I’d get different averages for their IQs and different bell curves. The much touted difference in black-white IQs and the stuff about standard deviations is of exactly that character.

        • BillMillerTime

          >I assure you that I can adequately handle scientific literature well beyond the level of the above writeup. I’m talking about mathematics and physics I’m sure you and Mr. Piffer cannot begin to read.

          What an arrogant statement as you know absolutely nothing about me. I have a degree in a subject that requires quite a bit of math. When I read The Bell Curve, I had no trouble understanding the authors when they used the terms “normal distribution,” “standard deviation,” and “regression analysis.” Over the past 25 years I’ve read extensively on the subject of psychometrics, evolutionary psychology, and the science of racial differences. Anytime that I attempt to have a dialogue with whether online or in person, I quickly find that you people are almost wholly unfamiliar with the scientific literature. My references to specific studies by scientists are met by blank stares, howls of outrage, and ritual denunciations. All the objections that you raise have been repeatedly answered. I swear, it’s like arguing with a creationist.

          >I’ll tell you what propaganda is.

          You used the term “propaganda” five times in your post. Apparently it means “something with which Edruezzi disagrees.”

          >That stuff about 85 being the standard black IQ and about it being fixed until the stars fall and inviolable, a standard tactic since the publication of The Bell Curve, is propaganda.

          In reality, the black-white average IQ differential has been abundantly documented by psychometricians over the preceding eight decades or so before The Bell Curve was published. It is obvious that you are generally unaware of the science on the question. I recommend the works of J. Philippe Rushton, Arthur Jensen, Robert T. Osbourne, Frank C. J. McCurk, Audrey M. Shuey, Linda Gottfredson, Richard Lynn, and Tatu Vanhanen. Perhaps you should start with Why Race Matters by Prof. Michael Levine.

          There is an average racial IQ difference, and this difference is *in part* genetic. In fact, scientists are closing in on the genes which affect intelligence. See G. Davies et al., “Genome-wide association studies establish that human intelligence is highly heritable and polygenic,” Journal of Molecular Psychiatry, August 2011. Eventually we will be able to prove that these genes are unevenly distributed across the various branches of the human family. The truth threatens to debunk egalitarian shibboleths that man is a blank slate, that black under-performance is due to pernicious white influence, that “Headstart” and other government programs can lift black IQ and close the seemingly intractable “achievement gap,” and that deep down “we’re all the same.” As the inconvenient truth about racial differences and IQ comes more sharply into focus, voices arise to urge that research into such a topic should be banned. See J. Horgan, “Should Research on Race and IQ Be Banned?” Science, May 16, 2013.

          The powers that be are dead-set against honest discussion of this taboo topic, and threaten to unleash hell against anyone who stands up and declares that the emperor is naked. Look at how they treated Jason Richwine and James Watson. It’s one reason why we here on American Renaissance must post under pseudonyms.

          >Bell Curves authors fail to note that they excluded studies that had black IQs higher than those of whites.

          Oh really? /eyeroll

          OK, name those studies.

          >I contend that until we can COMPLETELY exclude the effects of the differences in historical experience for blacks and whites in the US we can say nothing about what the 15 point difference means. Until we can get slavery and Jim Crow out of the equation we cannot make meaningful comparisons between blacks and whites.

          You think that Negro intelligence was depressed by four centuries of slavery in the New World? African-Americans have a higher average IQ than their cousins in Sub-Saharan Africa. When Europeans showed up on the shores of Sub-Sahara Africa, they encountered primitive peoples barely out of the Stone Age. “They had a rich oral tradition” is a politically correct way of saying that they were essentially illiterate. They hadn’t even invented the wheel yet.

          In fact, studies have shown an unmistakable correlation between IQ among blacks, and the amount of European ancestry. In what should be a surprise only to people living under a rock, the lighter skinned blacks tend to be more intelligent and articulate than their duskier cousins. (In a related development, scientists have noted a correlation between tides and phases of the moon.)

          American blacks enjoy opportunity and a standard of living far beyond what is available back in the motherland Africa. They should drop to their knees every morning and thank the gods that their ancestors were brought to America, otherwise they’d be living in Liberia, Sierra Leone, the Congo. Look at any black neighborhood, any black city, any black county, or any black country. There’s a clear pattern with only a handful of exceptions.

          If white racism is really so toxic for them, why are they so eager to live and work around us?

          • Edruezzi

            Thanks for your response.

            1. I find it worthy of note that a person who said it was a shame I don’t have the cognitive capacity to understand Piffer’s drivel responds by calling me arrogant for saying I believe he knows less mathematics and science than I do. “Quite a lot of math” in your field of study could mean the canned math of the social sciences.

            2. Of course you’ve read the Bell Curve. I could tell from your post.

            3. There are average racial differences in IQ. They are of the same significance as carrying out IQ tests on the people in two randomly selected Walmarts. Human genetic variation simply does not follow racial lines. That is the basis of the argument that race is of no scientific value.

            4. The Human Genome Project, having mapped the 3 billion base sequences of the human genome, found no indication of systematic differences in the regional distribution of genes controlling cognitive features. Much of the funding for the project came from the US government, an organization that has put men on the moon and sent objects out of the solar system. The US government knows a thing or two about science.

            5. Aside from Subsaharan Africa the following regions did not invent the wheel: Aboriginal Australia, Precolombian America, Polynesia, Europe.

            6 Aside from Subsaharan Africa the following regions had a rich oral tradition, eg folk songs, folk ballads, and did not invent writing: Aboriginal Australia, Precolombian America, Polynesia, Europe.

            7. It is possible that Negros are subhuman, or however it is you define it. On the other hand, a population systematically excluded from the benefits of the country they live in isn’t likely to be all that bright. Stand there and deny that at a time a black man could not drink from the same water fountain as a white man.

            8. Blacks raised in middleclass families in the USA outscore various groups of Southern whites in IQ tests. Is that genetic.

            9. The powers that be are mostly uninterested in the race debate. The hell they unleash is precisely because racism is unscientific.

            10. James Watson spoke off the cuff in an interview, and spoke speculatively. He proved nothing. I personally believe that he should not have been censored. Freedom of expression is a cornerstone of Western culture.

          • Edruezzi

            PS: I might add that since there’s not that much of a difference in regional genomes around the planet, and since European genetic diversity is a small subset of the genetic diversity within Africa, the idea that the magic elixir of European DNA boosts African American IQ relative to African IQ is of the scientific status of voodoo. Fix the tests, and fix the facts that most Africans they got the data from arrived at the test centers without ever having held a pencil. When we’re done with that, then we can test IQ. If not, IQ tests of “races” given the pattern of human genetic diversity, will continue to have the same scientific weight as testing the populations of two different Walmarts.

          • John Ulfsson

            “European genetic diversity is a small subset of the genetic diversity within Africa”

            Wrong, there are mutations unique to Europe and Asia not found in sub-Saharan Africa. Right off the bat you’re wrong.

            Again, please don’t speak like you’re a person of authority, because you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Some dumber people might be fooled by your tone.

          • Edruezzi

            My tone? Hey, members of the high IQ master race come here, so they should be able to handle my tone.
            Now, let’s get technical son. Mutations will arise in Europe and Asia that Africa will not have. Likewise mutations arose in Africa after non-Africans left Africa and were frolicking with the highly intelligent, non-art producing Neanderthals and getting there IQs allegedly ramped up as their DNA mingled with the DNA of a species that apparently never produced a single work of art or crossed a body of water they could not see across of. My contention is this. A mutation will only achieve a high representation in a gene pool if it has survival value in a given environment at a given time, ie if there is a selection gradient. Any other view of it is Lamarckism. Now, tell me what was so drastically different about Neolithic Europe that made it such a great place for high IQ genes. The way I see it, Europe of that time selected for resistance to frostbite and for melanin distribution patterns that left the skin translucent in order to promote Vitamin D formation. And maybe for cystic fibrosis. Africans are dumb because they come from a screwed ecosystem and African Americans are dumb because the dominant group in their society defined them as subhuman. (For the African ecosystem thing read Guns Germs and Steel).
            Thank you, and I hope Anna Tree and the rest of the moderators at Amren post this. It will educate the regular visitors to this site.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            “…Africans are dumb because they come from a screwed ecosystem.”

            Right, their environment didn’t select for high intelligence.

            “…African Americans are dumb because the dominant group in their society defined them as subhuman.”

            Nonsense, social prejudices do not lower one’s intelligence. African Americans are dumb because they are descendants of Africans, who are dumb because they come from a screwed ecosystem.

            In your first remark you acknowledge the power of heredity, in the second you deny it.

          • Edruezzi

            Let me clarify. No doubt, intelligence is highly heritable. The best indicator of that is that IQ testing of two identical twins has the same correlation as testing the same person twice.
            Distributions of intelligence in populations will have the same random patterns everywhere, however. Every region will have smart and dumb people. It’s not clear however how the European environment from the Neolithic up to about, say, 1750 or so, when the majority of people were illiterate and, statistically, most people were slaving on the farm, would select for intelligence and that of Africa would not. That’s what a rightward shift of the Bell Curve (registered TM) means. Whatever that selective force was it has to have acted undiminished and unchanged in direction for thousands of years. For example, the marked rearward projection of the buttocks of women of African descent is clearly the product of sexual selection. The obsession of the black male with booty appears to have been consistent since the Paleolithic.
            So what was pushing the Bell Curve of Europeans rightward in a stone age with no universities and no iMacs? I wasn’t around in the stone age but maybe you know better so educate me. Before about 1900 the genes that were worth having in Europe were those for disease resistance in early childhood, to offset the high infant mortality, and genes for muscles in the clodhopper men, and for broad hips in the women, ie the same genes useful to even the most abject savages of Darkest Africa, New Guinea, Tasmania, etc. Forget Hollywood period movies. To the extent that muscle has mattered more than brains for most of history, we were ALL savages until about 1850, if you compare the demographics and the state of technology with the stone age. Throughout most of 19th century Western civilization it was possible to make a good living while not being able to recognize your own name on a piece of paper. I mean if NBA stars can make millions while illiterate in the modern age imagine how easier it would have been in ages when EVERYONE was illiterate. That must have been even more true in the stone age. Charlemagne was a functional illiterate, and even if you could read before about 1750, THERE WERE SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH BOOKS AROUND BEFORE MECHANIZED PRINTING GOT OFF TO A START TO APPLY A SELECTIVE PRESSURE THAT COULD SHIFT THE CENTER OF THE BELL CURVE. My point is this: what in the European environment in the Neolithic selected for high IQs? Reading and writing were thousands of years away, and the tools and technology were simple enough that any illiterate of our time could use them. If you say the cold did it, then why didn’t the Inuit or Tierra Del Fuegians, or Siberians, or for that matter Neanderthals, build the greatest civilizations. If cold automatically boosted smarts why did Homo sapiens moving north from Africa displace Homo neanderthalis? Why didn’t the Neanderthals or Eskimos discover America and ship all of us, including Taylor Swift lookalikes, packed like sardines to the fields of Georgia? Why aren’t we debating Neanderthal privilege?
            Also, the notion of ever grinning, happy-go-lucky Africans simply plucking their dinner from the nearest tree is an exaggeration. Fruit is seasonal in Africa too. Farming in Africa is arduous too.
            So put yourself on a European glacier in the Stone Age. In the absence of literacy, and with Neanderthal boys with rippling abs wooing your daughters, did you need an Einstein IQ to survive and raise children, and why is it that Jews, descended from people in a country with palm trees, get so smart?
            Of course, other hypotheses are possible. Maybe some aliens lived in stone age Europe, or some Neanderthal geniuses who left no trace of their existence in the fossil record selectively raped smart Human women. For the proud sons and daughters of Neanderthals out there, that’s probably how the 4% Neanderthal DNA got into the Human gene pool. Those handsome Neanderthal boys with huge browridges weren’t coming to the cave to meet the parents.

          • Edruezzi

            Yeah, about that screwed ecosystem. I have to be clear about what I mean. Africa is famous for its animals but a curious fact about Africa south of the Sahara is that none of those big animals is domesticable. The Asian relatives of the respective African animals, like the water buffalo, charge humans on sight. As you might be aware from gook hunter Vietnam movies, every Southeast Asian family, at least before Asians began to slave in factories making iPads for, like ten cents an hour, used to have a water buffalo the way American families had two cars in the garage. Showing up around an African water buffalo is more dangerous than walking up to a pride of lions. As for African elephants, all the ones you see at the circus are from Asia, and Hannibal, invading from Africa, used Asian Elephants. The African elephant cannot stand the sight of humans.
            It may be that 2 million years with protohumans and then humans in the proving ground and anvil of humanity as the lethality of humans escalated made these animals instinctively wary of humans. As a control, notice that the first American Indians wiped out that region’s large mammals, that the Pacific islands being oceanic islands have no indigenous mammals, and that Australia has no placental mammals at all. Eurasia, the one region with large pools of domesticable animals, went on to produce societies that ruled the world, and of the twenty largest economies in the world all of them are in Eurasia or were founded by settlers from Eurasia. Also, crucial Eurasian inventions like the wheel, writing and so on were invented in one place and then spread to the rest of the region. (Europe invented neither of the above, BTW.) BTW, that’s the Guns, Germs and Steel thesis, and that’s what I mean by the F-ed ecosystem of Africa. Africa could not support the kind of revolution we saw in the Fertile Crescent. So when its societies went up against the economically more sophisticated societies of Eurasia they could not compete. Subsaharan-Africa is literally the only large landmass in the world where people from Eurasia did not displace the indigenous people.
            As for selection of their DNA by the environment, some DNA molecules have persisted essentially unchanged since the time of the dinosaurs, and even since the rise of life itself. I really don’t see the change in human DNA that has gone on in the past 60,000 or so years accounting for dramatic changes in human populations. Natural selection can work wonders, for example, adapting whales, which evolved from land mammals more closely related to deer than deer are to pigs, to life in water so well that a whale washed up on a beach will surely die.
            The most striking difference among human continental groups is of course skin color. But then, the skin is the body’s largest and most visible organ. Even slight changes in its DNA, like the change in a single nucleotide that accounts for a significant proportion of the European skin color, would be highly visible. Even by the 1940s, however, with DNA still undiscovered, scientists had begun to realize that the variation in skin color did not match the variation of other traits.
            You might note that if you date the cave paintings in Europe, the earliest ones all have people with dark complexions.
            Thanks.

          • Edruezzi

            Yup, Neanderthals produced tools and animal skin coats and buried their dead. NOBODY has found a work of pure art in any Neanderthal remains. Even the dumb Australian Aboriginals, whom I have heard referred to as the lowest IQ race ever, did that. So much for that Neanderthal DNA. The Neanderthals never produced a single raft or canoe. Even after Humans showed up and began filling European caves with paintings of animals the Neanderthals were too dumb to copy that.

          • Edruezzi

            The dumber people should bow down. They’ll never get to my level of intellectual development, and that’s just the way it is.

          • John Ulfsson

            “Of course you’ve read the Bell Curve. I could tell from your post.”

            Waaaaah, his findings didn’t fit my dogma! Waaaah, racism! A bloo-bloo-bloo!

            “8. Blacks raised in middleclass families in the USA outscore various groups of Southern whites in IQ tests. Is that genetic.”

            Do you have anything to back that up besides the typical arrogance and condescension? Seems like your type of people has no qualms with bold-faced lying if it is in-line with your agenda.

            I actually have some data in direct opposition to your claim:

          • Edruezzi

            Hello,
            I’m glad to make your acquaintance. I’d reckon you reject the theory that humans originated recently in Africa out of hand. If you don’t, the onus is on you and other defenders of divergent IQ numbers to explain how a difference in white-black IQs could have emerged in stone age conditions thousands of years before literacy. I’ll go over your data very carefully. I’m usually too busy to do anything aside from my work but I’ll look up this data from an independent source on the Web.
            While we’re at it, we might try explaining how Asian IQs diverged from those of whites. What was responsible, rice cultivation?
            Natural selection can’t select for the ability to ace the LSAT millennia before anybody could write their own name, so the selection factor must have been something present in the stone age.
            I’ll also check Piffer’s data too. He does not appear to have a doctorate. Trailer park kids should thank Amren. It’s given them the opportunity to f—k around with words like standard deviation, mean, IQ, allele, genome and so on. The Internet is wonderful.

          • John Ulfsson

            “I’m glad to make your acquaintance.”

            You’re a disgusting rat and you’re wasting my time.

            >I’d reckon you reject the theory that humans originated recently in Africa out of hand.

            Nope, stop trying to lead the argument in a different direction.

          • John Ulfsson

            “He does not appear to have a doctorate.”

            Well he does have balls to come up with data conflicting with the dogma of the liberal arts department. They’ll try to fire him, no doubt.

          • Edruezzi

            Sorry, John, but if balls was all it took there’d be a lot more ex-truck drivers, ex pole dancers and burger flippers working out the theory of relativity and working out the next generation of computer languages. The Negro has balls and look where it got him. A PhD means something.
            Meanwhile I don’t care what liberal arts types or even social scientists have to say about race.In fact they’re making the work of the scientists who refuted the race concept harder. I base my arguments on the science. Nothing more.

          • John Ulfsson

            “In fact they’re making the work of the scientists who refuted the race concept harder. ”

            Who. Name names. I took liberal arts classes as well, and they bank on the same thing that you are now when they says race has been disproven: banking on ignorance, and using authority and arrogance to back their assertions.

          • Edruezzi

            Come to think of it, a typical liberal arts professor knows as much science as a Neanderthal. I mean that literally.

          • John Ulfsson

            Yeah, they have a bad reputation for speaking authoritatively where they shouldn’t.

          • Edruezzi

            Apparently they don’t have to bother about firing him. He doesn’t work at a university. He doesn’t seem to work anywhere. Or maybe I didn’t read enough Google results.

          • John Ulfsson

            Let me add something else: the fact that we all came out of Africa doesn’t bother me one bit. We also came from primates as well. You can keep going back.

            What DOES matter is that humans are divorced 135,000 years from a common ancestor and since then have spent time in disparate environments which have wildly different selective pressures.

          • Edruezzi

            Good. At least you’re not a creationist. My epic battles with creationists on other websites always leave me reflexively anticipating someone on Amren rising in defense of the Earth, (and the entire solar system) being less than 10,000 years old and Noah voyaging with some baby dinosaurs on the ark and so on. I mean, let’s face it, a lot about your movement and creationism is indistinguishable. For one thing you and the intelligent design crowd are convinced that scientists are lying, that there’s a vast left wing conspiracy (to paraphrase Hilary Clinton) up to no good out there. There are other striking similarities but I’m too kind to get into those.
            So we can talk on the level of evolutionary theory here. Aside from primates, we come from therapsida too, and share ancestors with insects. Good. Someone literate on Amren. At least, when it comes to genetics you can do more than obsess about hybridizing with Mongols and blacks.
            Now, perhaps you could list some of those wildly different selective pressures, remembering that ONLY selection determines the direction and rate of evolution, and that the laws of hydrodynamics and gravity and so on were the same in the stone age as they are now. The stone age is not that difficult to visualize, if we recognize that they didn’t have iPads, Boeing jets, Airbus A380s, running water, electricity, books, and that they had a shocking infant mortality rate. In other words, they were a lot like your average black African of the year of our lord 2014. Mind you that even 135,000 years ago is an eyeblink to evolution, especially for a species like ours with a long generation time.
            So, since you know your evolutionary theory, pray, tell me of the “wildly” different selection pressures that made whites geniuses and made blacks stupid. I’d be glad to pick them apart one by one. That gives us an upper bound for considering dressed up crap like Piffer’s table.
            Here is my contention. Human intelligence did not evolve to put men on the moon or write computer software or lyric poetry. It underwent the massive leap forward it did because our weak and defenseless species ventured onto the plains of Africa and found itself competing with, and preyed upon by, big cats. The cats had speed, claws and teeth and we had nothing but our brains, crude tools and language. It turned out that the abstract thought capacity that evolved was such that we could turn it to theoretical physics, or even watching Marvel’s Avengers, eons later.
            Now you will crucify me for this but here it goes. With the big cats neutralized and nature conquered, with primitive humans now an ecological threat, cf what happened in the Americas when the ancestors of the Indians got there (unless you believe the first Native Americans were white (as some Amreners appear to believe) selection slacked off. Now don’t tell me that Europeans were selected for literacy. For thousands of years after the invention of literacy most people were illiterate. Mass literacy dates from only about the early 19th century at most. Charlemagne was by today’s definition functionally illiterate. Even if you were literate in Europe from about 800 BC, when the Greeks adopted writing, to about 1850, there is simply NO indication that the literate people, who were in the minority anyway, left more children than illiterates. That, by definition, is what natural selection is about. Leaving more offspring.
            Just about the only thing novel Africans migrating into Europe would have encountered is cold. Now that brings up the Eskimo cudgel. If cold is so great for IQ, the Eskimos should be a lot more than blubber eaters. The Neanderthals, who were convergent with Eskimos in many ways, should have been smart too. But the fossil record makes it clear that the Neanderthals were not that bright. NOTHING that could be called symbolic art has ever been found associated with the Neanderthals. As for the intelligence of Northern Europeans, you might want to Google some of the bleak remarks the Ancient Romans made about the intelligence of the Britons. Change the labels and they could pass for some of the stuff said about blacks today.

          • Edruezzi

            Imagine someone who believes in the powers of the magical
            White DNA (registered TM) the unparalleled elixir that builds civilization and that can get Detroit up from the ashes, calling me condescending and arrogant.

          • John Ulfsson

            Magical? Maybe not. Better at the type of civilization they pioneered? Perhaps.

          • Edruezzi

            My magnum opus will involve a refutation of that table. Just you wait. Amren is so fun.

          • John Ulfsson

            What table? The relation of socioeconomic status, GPA, race and LSAT scores? Or the one with Alleles?

            Also, please don’t mince words. I’ve seen a lot of liberal ‘refutations’, and instead of countering the data and providing conflicting data, they just find minor little inconsistencies here and there. That’s not a refutation, that’s a rebuttal.

            Despite all of the whinging about the bell curve, liberals STILL have not came up with a book consisting of conflicting data on IQ. Most of them don’t even attempt to come near the rigor that was involved with the Bell Curve. The fact they take Boas’ studies and run proves that.

          • Edruezzi

            I’m sure the Bell Curve was a major scientific breakthrough.

          • Edruezzi

            Hello.
            Your degree is in sociology, right? Or maybe psychology. The way I see it, those fields only enhance the basic literacy of the people who get degrees in them.
            It’s also clear that you and Anna Tree have moderator privileges here.
            Hey, arrogance is good. You cast sever aspersions on my cognitive capacity, didn’t you?

          • BillMillerTime

            >Bell Curves authors fail to note that they excluded studies that had black IQs higher than those of whites.

            I know why you cannot name any such studies: they do not exist.

    • Guest

      How do you make a post that has nothing but ad-hominem and baseless condescension but come off as if you’re in a position of authority? Leftists are very crafty at this. Hey, that narcissistic sociopathy and self confidence has it’s benefits.

      “All it’s saying is the old stuff about black people being dumb. Dressing it up in new, and impenetrable, jargon doesn’t change the message, where Mr. Piffer’s argument is at all clear.”

      There’s data with allele frequency there, shitdick. End of discussion. Bring up conflicting data or go home.

    • John Ulfsson

      How do you make a post that has nothing but ad-hominem and baseless condescension but come off as if you’re in a position of authority? Leftists are very crafty at this. Hey, that narcissistic sociopathy and self confidence has it’s benefits.

      “All it’s saying is the old stuff about black people being dumb. Dressing it up in new, and impenetrable, jargon doesn’t change the message, where Mr. Piffer’s argument is at all clear.”

      There’s data with allele frequency there, limp-wrist. End of discussion. Bring up conflicting data or go home.

  • Fr. John+

    Yet another ‘scientific’ study to show that Adam was created ‘special,’ and ‘unique’ and is the White race of today. Heb. ‘aw-dam’ (fair, rosy, able to [visibly] bush. YHWH God knew what He was doing, when he created Whites…..as the rulers of hominidity.

  • Franklin_Ryckaert

    His name is Olinto de Pretto. Einstein had plagiarized the famous formula E=mc2 from him. For further information see : Metapedia, Albert Einstein, 6.2 Plagiarism.

    • Ellis Kurtz

      “His name is Olinto de Pretto. Einstein had plagiarized the famous formula E=mc2 from him. ”

      No, he didn’t; de Pretto derived his formula from an incorrect model of the nature of space; Einstein derived it from the (correct) fundamental principle of relativity: that the speed of light is the same for all observers.

      “For further information see : Metapedia, Albert Einstein, 6.2 Plagiarism.”

      The Metapedia article is pure nonsense, eg

      “In his writings, Einstein makes several wrong predictions of “new physical phenomena” such as the prediction that clocks will work at a faster rate when placed in a weaker gravitational field, a prediction that is obviously wrong as for example an hourglass will work at a slower rate when placed in a weaker gravitational field .”

      It is well established that clocks run more slowly the deeper they go into the gravitational field of a massive body like the Earth. It is for this reason that atomic clocks on GPS satellites are set to run slowly compared to those on Earth:

      “In 1956, the German-American physicist Friedwardt Winterberg proposed a test of general relativity (for time slowing in a strong gravitational field) using accurate atomic clocks placed in orbit inside artificial satellites. (Later, calculations using general relativity determined that the clocks on GPS satellites would be seen by Earth’s observers to run 38 microseconds faster per day, and this was corrected for in the design of GPS. )” wiki

  • BillMillerTime

    If I recall correctly, she was given quite a tongue-lashing over that remark.

  • Franklin_Ryckaert

    @ Edruezzi,

    1) “…if I tested the people in two randomly selected McDonalds or two subway cars in Manhattan I’d get different averages for their IQs and different Bell curves.”

    Statistics are never based on random but always on representative samples of a given population.

    2) “…I contend that untill we can COMPLETELY exclude the effects of the differences in historical experience for blacks and whites in the US we can say nothing about what the 15 point difference means…”

    An impossible demand. All human groups have historical experiences and different human groups have different historical experiences. We can never exclude that, but we can compare different groups with similar historical experiences and we can compare people from the same group with different historical experiences.

    Thus Chinese coolies in Malaysia and Japanese coolies in Brazil lived lives not much better than Blacks during slavery and yet their descendants belong to the wealthiest of their societies and they have IQs considerably higher than Blacks. The Irish have been oppressed and impoverished by the English for 4 centuries. Many Irish came to America in circumstances comparable to slavery and yet they have far higher IQs than Blacks. And need I mention the Jews, discriminated and persecuted for 2000 years, confined in ghettos to a life of poverty for 1000 years and yet they are the most intelligent people of the world?

    Children of wealthy Blacks have lower IQs than children of poor Whites. How do you explain that? Modern Africans never were slaves and yet they have an even lower IQ than American Blacks ( 67 vs. 85). And if you would ascribe that to the “legacy of colonialism”, Ethiopia never was a colony and yet its average IQ is even lower than the average of the rest of sub-Sahara Africa ( 63 vs. 67).

    The Marxist argument of nurture versus nature has been settled by science already long ago in favor of nature. And nature is not “socialist”, I would even call nature “fascist”, because nature favors the strong above the weak. Hail nature!

  • Edruezzi

    The type of upbringing described in the Tiger Mother book actually would act to suppress creativity. That may go a long way toward explaining Asia’s creativity problem.

  • Edruezzi

    A post I put here got deleted, along with the post it was a response to. Well, you gotta keep trying. People, the scientific debate about race is over. Race has been refuted. It does not exist. You can say liberals are hiding the truth or spreading propaganda about race but then, there’s a far better funded industry devoted to fighting the theory of evolution. The existence of that industry does not mean that evolution is a lie. Incidentally, just like you guys they also say there’s a conspiracy out to get them and that atheist scientists have politicized science.

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      “…People, the scientific debate about race is over. Race has been refuted. It does not exist…”

      Are you serious or are you satirical, making fun of the typical Marxist idiot?

  • Edruezzi

    To John Ulfsson,

    1. I am very different from a creationist. Creationists get their evidence from a Middle Eastern book that’s on the level of scientific accuracy of the collected storied of the Grimms. I base my argument on science. If the evidence supports racial divisions I will adopt it the moment it appears.

    2. Yes, they did not share a gene pool for a long time. Reproductive isolation is not what shifts the genetic composition of the pool, however. Only selection can do that. And your figure of 135,000 years is too high. The earliest date for the succesful migration of people of our species out of Africa was 80,000 years at most.

    3. The structural differences you mentioned don’t matter. They do not prove anything. Say, if scientists and cultural Communists are hiding this stuff, why is it in Plos One?

    4. A118G seems to be about social rejection. It says nothing about IQ.

    5. What do you mean by “allowed to solidify”?. Let’s be clear. Mutations show up in single individuals at a time. A recent article traced the blue eyes of Europeans to a mutation in a single individual. A mutation needs help from selection to become widespread in a society, however. So my argument is inviolate.

    6. Surface appearances are irrelevant to science. The sun appears to be moving. One of the biggest howlers in the Bible is that Joshua ordered the sun to stand still.
    The surface diversity of humans vs the tedious sameness at the genetic level is one of the planks of the argument against racial divisions.

    7. I said earlier that the dangers were eventually neutralized. Well before the ancestors of Non-Africans left Africa humans had conquered the wild and bestrode the world like Colossi, yada yada yada.

    8. By what happened in the Americas I meant the wipeout of the big, tasty mammals there by early humans.

    9. Yeah, they did. They reached that level of agrarian civilization with crops all domesticated outside Europe and with a writing system and religion from the Middle East. At any rate natural selection doesn’t care if you can read Juvenal in the original Latin. It cares about infant mortality and nutritional levels. Based on that early modern Europe was not that different from Africa, or even the Neolithic.

    10. Yippee. I’ve gotten an Amrener to admit that more cold does not equal more intelligence. That eliminates the only really important selective factor that could have changed European gene frequencies from those the ancestors of Europeans left Africa with. I’m afraid that aside from the genes for pale skin and cystic fibrosis there are not many more. And it does matter what caused it. Evolution is not a magical process. Science is based on cause and effect. Also, given the agony and suffering race has caused it does matter what caused European superiority. We must know what all the fuss is about.

    11. Fawning over alien cultures is a very human activity. At various times people have fawned over Aboriginals, Native Americans and even Black Africans.

    12. Britain’s great contributions to civilization have come from all classes of British society. The explorer Francis Drake and the Beatles were from the working class.

  • Edruezzi

    1.This your line about things that were “allowed to solidify” needs to be examined. What agent did the allowing: the hand of God? Aliens? A mysterious quantum mechanical force that shows up only in the DNA or maybe RNA molecules of white people? You’re slipping, in my opinion.

    2. It does matter what caused the IQ difference. If we can identify no cause then there most likely is no genetically based IQ difference to begin with.

    3. What do you mean by the level of difference between European and polar environment cold? The poles are colder. If cold is a selection pressure for IQ and cultural development genes then the Eskimos have had the most of it. They are a technologically underdeveloped society.

    4. Mutation happens independently of the requirements of the organism. ONLY selection fixes the mutated variant at a large percentage in a given population. If you argue against that you are arguing against the weight of all of modern biological science.

    5. Europeans did reach a high level of civilization. However, if you whisked a resident of Egypt or Phoenicia or Mohenjo-Daro in 3000 BC to the Europe of their time they’d have called Europeans savages. To a Roman a barbarian was a Northern European. Cultures learn and adapt and develop new ideas all the time. We call that history.

    6. So Europe is a complex environment. Well, 18th Century Europeans had no problem growing crops in America. Europeans could not survive in Africa until the very late 19th century. Even a group of African Americans resettled in West Africa perished. European agriculture could not farm in West Africa until the 20th century. Africa’s poor soils mean that it is not the tropical paradise where naked savages don’t have to work to feed themselves.

    7. Whites got a lucky mutation? Well, son, ALL mutations are products of chance. Most are deleterious and their carriers die. Some are neutral and have no outward phenotypic effect. Only a minority are beneficial and for even the beneficial ones they have to go through the mill of natural selection to become common. There is simply no way around that argument except to declare all of modern evolutionary biology a fraud.

  • Edruezzi

    I am sincerely sorry about the trailer trash quip. I apologize to all Amren readers for that. I also acknowledge your data.
    Well, yeah, I spend so much time on YouTube and Facebook that I don’t have time to read all the stuff on the web.

  • Edruezzi

    I like Gould’s essays on dinosaurs and evolution. I don’t care for his politics. As for Boas, developments in genetics have superseded his work. Modern anthropology doesn’t care about the voodoo of measuring skulls anymore.
    Yeah, and Boas and Lewontin were notorious for their politics.

    • John Ulfsson

      “Modern anthropology doesn’t care about the voodoo of measuring skulls anymore. ”

      I don’t understand how it’s ‘voodoo’. What’s the odds of physical divergence between races (even down to brain size and morphology) yet not mental ability?

      • Edruezzi

        A scientific theory consists of the logical apparatus of the theory itself and operational definitions that make the theory testable. If the theory fails the test then it is not a proper theory. Now even if you could dignify voodoo by calling it a theory at all, it’s clear that the types of correlations between its rituals and the events the rituals are supposed to influence do not exist. I call the theory of skull measurements voodoo because it has exactly the same structure as voodoo.
        There are no morphological differences between the brains of different species.

        • John Ulfsson

          >There are no morphological differences between the brains of different species.

          What are you talking about? You mean in terms of the regional areas of the brain there’s no differences between Gorillas and Humans? That’s ridiculous.

          There’s differences in size, composition and gross morphology in Blacks and Whites. Therefore identical function is impossible.

        • Edruezzi

          Hello,

          1. What brings up gorillas? We weren’t talking about gorillas. The ancestors of gorillas and the ancestors of humand diverged 10 to 8 million years ago so gorillas are irrelevant in a discussion of differences in human brain morphology among races. On a logical level, it’s like saying A is different from C because A is different from B.

          2. I still stand by what I said earlier. There are no differences in the morphology of human brains in different races.