CNN Analysis: Some College Athletes Play Like Adults, Read Like 5th-Graders

Sara Ganim, CNN, January 7, 2014

Early in her career as a learning specialist, Mary Willingham was in her office when a basketball player at the University of North Carolina walked in looking for help with his classwork.

He couldn’t read or write.

“And I kind of panicked. What do you do with that?” she said, recalling the meeting.

Willingham’s job was to help athletes who weren’t quite ready academically for the work required at UNC at Chapel Hill, one of the country’s top public universities.

But she was shocked that one couldn’t read. And then she found he was not an anomaly.

Soon, she’d meet a student-athlete who couldn’t read multisyllabic words. She had to teach him to sound out Wis-con-sin, as kids do in elementary school.

And then another came with this request: “If I could teach him to read well enough so he could read about himself in the news, because that was something really important to him,” Willingham said.

{snip}

A CNN investigation found public universities across the country where many students in the basketball and football programs could read only up to an eighth-grade level. The data obtained through open records requests also showed a staggering achievement gap between college athletes and their peers at the same institution.

This is not an exhaustive survey of all universities with major sports programs; CNN chose a sampling of public universities where open records laws apply. We sought data from a total of 37 institutions, of which 21 schools responded. {snip}

See the details of our findings

{snip}

As a graduate student at UNC-Greensboro, Willingham researched the reading levels of 183 UNC-Chapel Hill athletes who played football or basketball from 2004 to 2012. She found that 60% read between fourth- and eighth-grade levels. Between 8% and 10% read below a third-grade level.

“So what are the classes they are going to take to get a degree here? You cannot come here with a third-, fourth- or fifth-grade education and get a degree here,” she told CNN.

The issue was highlighted at UNC two years ago with the exposure of a scandal where students, many of them athletes, were given grades for classes they didn’t attend, and where they did nothing more than turn in a single paper. {snip}

When Willingham worked as a learning specialist for athletes from 2003 to 2010, she admits she took part in cheating, signing her name to forms that said she witnessed no NCAA rules violations when in fact she did. But the NCAA, the college sports organizing body, never interviewed her. Instead, it found no rules had been broken at Chapel Hill.

UNC now says 120 reforms put in place ensure there are no academic transgressions.

But Willingham said fake classes were just a symptom of the bigger problem of enrolling good athletes who didn’t have the reading skills to succeed at college.

“Isn’t it all cheating if I’m sitting at a table with a kid who can’t read or write at college level and pulling a paper out of them? Is this really legitimate? No,” Willingham told CNN. “I wouldn’t do that today with a college student; I only did it with athletics, because it’s necessary.”

{snip}

Willingham, now a graduation adviser with access to student files, said she believes there are still athletes at UNC who can’t do the coursework.

UNC Athletics Director Bubba Cunningham told CNN the school admits only students it believes can succeed.

“I think our students have an exceptional experience in the classroom as well as on the fields of competition,” he said.

{snip}

The NCAA admits that almost 30 athletes in sports that make revenue for schools were accepted in 2012 with very low scores–below 700 on the SAT composite, where the national average is 1000. That’s a small percentage of about 5,700 revenue-sport athletes.

However, the NCAA did not share raw data. {snip}

In fact, CNN only found one person in addition to Willingham who has ever collected data on the topic. University of Oklahoma professor Gerald Gurney found that about 10% of revenue-sport athletes there were reading below a fourth-grade level.

So, after consulting with several academic experts, CNN filed public records requests and concluded that what Willingham found at UNC and Gurney found at Oklahoma is also happening elsewhere.

The data CNN collected is based on the SAT and ACT entrance exam scores of athletes playing the revenue sports: football and basketball.

{snip}

Based on data from those requests and dozens of interviews, a CNN investigation revealed that most schools have between 7% and 18% of revenue sport athletes who are reading at an elementary school level. Some had even higher percentages of below-threshold athletes.

According to those academic experts, the threshold for being college-literate is a score of 400 on the SAT critical reading or writing test. On the ACT, that threshold is 16.

Many student-athletes scored in the 200s and 300s on the SAT critical reading test–a threshold that experts told us was an elementary reading level and too low for college classes. The lowest score possible on that part of the SAT is 200, and the national average is 500.

On the ACT, we found some students scoring in the single digits, when the highest possible score is 36 and the national average is 20. In most cases, the team average ACT reading score was in the high teens.

{snip}

Gurney, who looked into the situation at the University of Oklahoma, put it bluntly: “College presidents have put in jeopardy the academic credibility of their universities just so we can have this entertainment industry. . . . The NCAA continually wants to ignore this fact, but they are admitting students who cannot read.

“College textbooks are written at the ninth-grade level, so we are putting these elite athletes into classes where they can’t understand the textbooks. Imagine yourself sitting in a class where nothing makes sense.”

{snip}

In December, the Drake Group, which pushes for academic integrity in collegiate sports, organized a lobbying trip to Washington to push for an amendment to the College Education Act of 1965. Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection Act–legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the average student admitted to the university.

“That’s unconscionable, to bring in a young athlete who does not fit in the general profile of the student body and have them play football on national television before they’ve entered the classroom for the first time in the fall,” Sack said.

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  • dd121

    This isn’t news either. It’s well known that colleges that aspire to national recognition let the black players cheat at academics. It’s a national scandal that everybody winks at.

    • Laura Dilworth

      wouldn’t it be better to go straight from high school to pro sports if one isnt eligible for college/univ?

      • dd121

        That’s one solution. Another would be to have these negro athletes play for college teams as semi-pro but not attend any classes and get paid. I’d like to drop this pretense that they’re there to be educated.

        • Laura Dilworth

          yea, then the white athletes will be tempted to do the same. sigh

          • GeneticsareDestiny

            Only the ones who are so dumb that they shouldn’t be in college in the first place. It doesn’t bother me if a low-IQ white college-aged man would rather play sports than attend college.

          • Laura Dilworth

            could just be the temptation for money

  • WR_the_realist

    Only CNN would be surprised to find that when you admit college students solely on their ability to bounce a ball and put it in a basket you will wind up with a lot of illiterate students. Especially considering the demographic those players come from.

    Me, I’ve never figured out why our feeder teams for the professional leagues are associated with universities at all.

    • So CAL Snowman

      College athletics were never intended to be feeder leagues for the professional leagues. The “civil rights’ movement coupled with the ascendancy of pro sports completely changed the landscape of college athletics. The Marxists quickly pounced on college athletics as a way to get their biological weapons (black males) on lily White campuses across the nation. Then with the growth of pro sports, the Marxists used college athletics to spring board the negro to popularity amongst an otherwise hostile White install base. They used college and pro sports to glorify the black male at the expense of everyone else on campus.

      • The reason why athletics and sports are associated with American education in a way that they are not anywhere else in the world (with the exception of Canada) has to do with the reason why American schools are objects of micropatriotism for those that attended them, institutions to which current students and graduates are supposed to display a level of loyalty akin to that of a country, nation, tribe or ethnic group. How that came to be, I don’t know, though maybe someone has done a sociology or history Ph.D. thesis about it.

        But you’re right, the egalitarian craziness drove it all out of whack.

        • refocus

          The pageantry and spectacle of the weekly contests are quite stimulating.

          In fact the repetition of images and news about the latest contest projected towards the next contest is honed to a fine art and obviously now perfected. The average boob who does not see himself as having much of a life on his own gets to project himself into the winners circle by being there and witnessing the action.

          Note also that a huge number of students are involved in the band, the glee club, cheer leading, security service, maintenance crew, media support and pep rally personnel … all in support of the athletes in the big game.

          As astonishing as it appears to a sapient adult many of these people consider this support activity to be the most exciting and fulfilling time of their lives. So small is their horizon.

      • Laura Dilworth

        blacks have natural athletic talent-speed (west africa), right?

    • The retarded elements among university alumni don’t care about academics after they have graduated. They only want to walk a pack of missing links throw a ball around.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        It really degrades college “education” almost as much as “critical theory” and the intellectual mediocrity of our mandarin Humanities kommisars.

  • Hunter Morrow

    Student athletes, ahahahaha. Just a moneymaking scam.

    Listen to them talk and realize they are all Communications majors.

    Blacks, the race that cannot communicate and nobody wants to communicate with…

    All lubs dey coemoonuhcayshuns degrees!

    • Funruffian

      Communications is a joke college course. I remember when my ex-girlfriend at UCLA enrolled for a Communications class, because it was considered an easy ‘A’. Any person who attended class regularly with an IQ of 100 would easily get a passing grade. Those courses are designed for stupid people who are looking for the easiest GE they can find.

    • In a rational world, a communication major would be expected to be able to communicate at an adult level, instead of being functionally illiterate and orally incomprehensible. Since communications graduates typically go into radio or TV broadcast work, one would think that speaking in “Ebonics” drivel would be a deal-killer.

      • Laura Dilworth

        rev al’s got a show

    • dukem1

      Our youngest went to college to major in business. At one point, probably sophomore year, she said she wanted to change her major to Communications.
      I said, “Are you on the basketball team?”
      She got the message.

  • Puggg

    Someone who can’t read or write isn’t ready for elementary school work, much less college work.

    And then another came with this request: “If I could teach him to read
    well enough so he could read about himself in the news, because that was
    something really important to him,” Willingham said.

    Isn’t that the typical self-obsessed black, they only want to learn how to read because they want to read what others say about themselves.

    UNC Athletics Director Bubba Cunningham told CNN the school admits only students it believes can succeed.

    Yeah, succeed in the watered down easy classes they only give to certain athletes on scholarship, classes that regular students don’t even know exist.

    College textbooks are written at the ninth-grade level

    Shouldn’t they be written at a college level?

    Director Allen Sack said he wants to see a College Athlete Protection
    Act–legislation that would keep athletes on the bench as freshmen if
    they are academically more than one standard deviation lower than the
    average student admitted to the university.

    Then you’ll see a lot of blacks on the bench and a lot of whites on the court or on the field. And that would be a good thing, but you know the race groups will whine.

  • LACounty

    Read like which 5th graders? White or black? Charles Barkley couldn’t pass the 5th grade today.

  • bigone4u

    At my university the last president, a Mexican, probably couldn’t read beyond a fifth or sixth grade level. That’s why the system keeps him under wraps for the most part. I had students toward the end of my career whose reading ability was more like second grade. Low IQs are the determining factor. The pressure on profs to pass these nitwits was enormous. Some of the cultural Marxists were willing to do so, but most resisted, to their credit.

    • Daniel Schmuhl

      Low IQ is the major factor but it’s worth pointing that other specific cognitive abilities like reading ability are also heritable. People here focus a bit much on IQ.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        This is true, there is a lot more to human biodiversity than IQ. But reading ability is strongly correlated with IQ, particularity verbal IQ. In this specific instance, IQ is the most important factor.

  • Daniel Schmuhl

    Tax payers will have to pay the bill too. Most of them won’t graduate or make it into the pros so it”s a big black money pit.

    • Laura Dilworth

      and how long does the average pro play? what happens when they retire after a few years?

  • NoMosqueHere

    in my work, i meet many white graduates of colleges and graduate schools. all they ever talk about is college hoops and football and the various school team rivalries. they never mention the academic achievements of their schools; only the sports related achievements. whites are their own worst enemy.

    • Daniel Schmuhl

      I hate it when i hear white guys talk about their team. Those overpaid black athletes want nothing to do with them at all.

      • Garrett Brown

        I always giggle a bit with a smirk on my face when I go to the gym and catch fully grown adults talking about what an amazing performance their negro gods had the night before. You could make an entire comedy show on pointing out the incredible ridiculousness of ebony worship.

    • I was in graduate school at the CU chemistry department in Boulder in 1989-1990 before I quit to work for my former thesis advisor’s company. The football team won the Rose Bowl while I was there, and one of the chemistry professors won a Nobel Prize. Predictably, the only thing the undergrads could talk about was the Rose Bowl victory.

      • worldclassical

        very sad

      • Max Krakah

        the dynamite prize is all a sham

        • In the hard sciences and medicine it has merit, but the “peace” prize hasn’t meant anything since Theodore Roosevelt for negotiating an end to the 1904-1905 Russo-Japanese war or George C. Marshall receiving it in 1953 for the Marshall Plan for European recovery. By the time they awarded it to President Oogabooga when he hadn’t done anything yet, it had completely lost any relevance.

          • Max Krakah

            It’s the “Academy Awards” of the Sciences and Humanities. It is almost all politics, even the science and medicine.

    • Garrett Brown

      Who fills the stadiums and courts at college games? Nothing but stupid white kids. I wonder if that student at Alabama who got destroyed and robbed by football players went to all their games this season…

      • Mergatroyd

        A White girl had her rape claim thrown out of court so the illiterate FSU quarterback could win the Heisman trophy. Her lawyer is pressing ahead with the rape charges. This is from yesterday, 1/8.

        http COLON //abcnews DOT go DOT com/US/jameis-winstons-alleged-victim-absolutely-sue-fsu-quarterback/story?id=21464291

        “Jameis Winston’s Alleged Victim Will ‘Absolutely’ Sue the FSU Quarterback”

        • Garrett Brown

          The allegation had been going since the beginning of last year, yet he was able to play THE ENTIRE season. Would that be, hmmm. “black privilege”?

          I hope they find him guilty, but at the same time I hope the stupid mud shark who would even socialize with someone so ugly, even let herself be in that situation gets no satisfaction nor help.

          You want to mess with diversity and not have the punishment for the behavior? Too bad.

        • Laura Dilworth

          does she think he gave her a date rape drug? did he just see that she was intoxicated, vulnerable? the authorities claim that the prosecution had nothing…

  • Luca

    I’ll bet most of them can’t read cursive either.

    • MekongDelta69

      I thought the AmRen Mods didn’t allow cursiving on here.

      Oh wait – never mind…

      • No cursiving. Must not confuse Miss Jeantel.

        • dukem1

          Gave ya an upvote Mr. Mod…for your witty and incisive comment.

          You owe me!

        • LACounty

          The “illiterate, racist, perjurer” Miss Jeantel.

        • “Must not confuse Miss Jeantel.”

          Too late.

    • So CAL Snowman

      I’ll bet most of them have never even heard of cursive.

      • Garrett Brown

        Wuts dat? White privluj?

      • dukem1

        Maybe not so..I’ll bet lotsa dem afletes like da girls wit lotsa big cursives.

      • JohnEngelman

        If they heard of negative numbers they could not understand the concept.

        • Laura Dilworth

          President Obama doesn’t understand that we have a debt/deficit

          • JohnEngelman

            Republicans do not understand that the debt problem was caused by the scam of “supply side economics,” AKA “voodoo economics.”

            From the presidencies of Harry Truman to that of Jimmy Carter the national debt was paid down as a percentage of gross domestic product.

            During the presidential campaign of 1980 Ronald Reagan said he could cut taxes, raise defense spending, and balance the budget without cutting popular middle class entitlements. Reagan may have been stupid enough to believe that, but his more intelligent advisers, who ran the country while the Gipper took naps and vacations, knew better.

            The debt crisis was caused by the GOP which is using it in an effort to cut domestic spending programs Republican leaders never liked, but which have the support of the overwhelming majority of the voters.

            Fortunately, it is not working. Political opinions surveys indicate little support for cuts in most spending programs, and considerable support for higher taxes for the rich.

          • Laura Dilworth

            so, you’re letting Obama off the hook?

  • MekongDelta69

    Ah needz me sum edu-mah-cay-shun

    Nahmeen’? Nahm sayin’?

  • IstvanIN

    College should be for education. Today, however, with most state land-grant universities, as well as other large universities, the primary focus is sports. Big money sports. They could care less about real education, thus the need for afletes to be able to read is moot. This shouldn’t surprise anyone. There should be no such thing as “remedial” English or arithmetic courses in college. If you can not read you should graduate high school.

    • Frank_DeScushin

      Tough call — I can’t decide whether universities’ primary focus is sports or Leftist indoctrination.

      • James Bro

        It’s probable close to a 50/50 split, though activist leftism permeates though out the entire institution.

  • Max Krakah

    She found a student athlete that could not read multisyllabic words….such as “multisyllabic”

    • So CAL Snowman

      She was just using the wrong words. If she tried using words like: cocaine, liquor, marijuana (thats a big one!), and cadillac, she would find out that these kids are just victims of a White racist society that doesn’t care about black values.

      • borogirl54

        Or what about rap lyrics? They can pronounce those words.

        • jambi19

          Have you ever listened to rap before? The lyrics aren’t even words. “Bandza maka dance! Bandza maka dance!” or “Gaz peda…gaz peda…gaz peda!”

        • Non Humans

          I beg to differ. Mumbling really fast to a rhythm is hardly pronunciation. They butcher any language they are exposed to.

      • Laura Dilworth

        i guarantee you they don’t call it marijuana, but a shorter slang term

  • Max Krakah

    The problem with all this is that the usual suspects will come out and say that the remedies proposed have a disparate impact on black yooofs

  • Alfred the Great

    Another example of selling out our society for the sake of money, entertainment for the masses, and to give those who have no other skills to succeed at something–sports. I am for a true college football league in which only those who can make their grades–in rigorous core subjects–are eligible to play. No more basket weaving majors, black history majors, women’s studies majors, etc. Who knows, under those circumstances, Army could start winning again.

  • ncpride

    So what are the classes they are going to take to get a degree here? You cannot come here with a third-, fourth- or fifth-grade education and get a degree here,” she told CNN.

    Of course they can, silly rabbit. How on earth do you think they got there in the first place? It certainly wasn’t their IQ. They’ll just give them a ‘degree’ in AA Studies printed on a useless piece of paper.

  • Lewis33

    And yet universities wonder why the public’s opinion of them continues to plummet.

  • OhWow

    Interesting how they didn’t have a racial breakdown. I’d bet all of our collective lives that it’s still not a big problem with white athletes…mostly black ones.

  • libertarian1234

    “Nearly a fifth of basketball and football players at some universities read at an elementary school level.”

    It’s difficult for me to believe that percentage, because blacks make up about 60% of athletes in football and basketball, and almost all of them read and write on a grade school level, so I think the figure is really closer to black representation in sports, which should be around 60%, but maybe a little less for that odd black here and there.

  • Spartacus

    I picked up reading before I ever went to school. Must’ve been White privilege, since all the books I read were written by Whites as well.

    • dukem1

      Really. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      It’s even worse at our house. My two kids start first grade this fall, and can already read English, Deutsch, and Russian. What awful little “racists,” right?

  • George Clark

    This isn’t necessarily a fault of the students, at least not completely. I have been out of the educational loop since around 1990, when I received my BS in Secondary Education, though, so I may not know if things have changed.

    When I was in first grade, the first thing that Mrs. Lynch taught us was to sound out simple words, like cat and dog. Pretty easy. She threw us, though, on “cate.” Then she taught us about long and short vowels. The emphasis on learning grammar and reading skills was on sounding out syllables.

    By the time I got to college, the emphasis had changed. “Sounding out” words was deemed atavistic. The mode of teaching had switched to rote memorization of words. No more sounding out, you learned a word and then were supposed to remember the meaning. If you encountered a new word, you memorized it and its meaning. A bit rough for even the smartest guys in the room. A very good example of this would be Obama pronouncing “corpsman” as “corpes man.” The poor Capuchin had obviously never encountered the word before, had no context with which to “sound it out,” and it drew an utter blank in his 640K memory banks. Obama is as much a pathetic failure of our educational system as he is a pathetic failure as president.

    Yet, we only have ourselves to blame for this. Back in the “old days,” when “tracking” was allowed for high school students, Barry would have been told by the high school counselor that his best career choices, based on his intelligence, would have been for him to attend Tuskegee and major in “Waiter.”

    Barry is just something, isn’t he? As much as I despise George W. Bush, I never felt as if the guy thought that he was more intelligent than he actually was. Clearing scrub on his ranch was a great intellectual pursuit for W. Yet W’s IQ is probably at least 20 points higher than Barry’s. Which puts Barry’s at about 80, if we go by the old rules. And that makes Barry borderline retarded.

    • dukem1

      They don’t really teach phonics too much anymore.
      Probably because it’s racist , one way or another.
      Consider yourself lucky.

  • Attention, the dork in Orlando with a fax machine: CNN is moving in on your territory. Are you just going to sit back and take it?

    It’s like I said a few days ago here at AR, it’s not just one fake professor and one of his fake classes at one school. It’s widespread and pandemic. (Even Harvard has been caught with their hands in this particular cookie jar). This article would suggest that I’m right, but those of you with experience in higher education could have attested to that already.

  • borogirl54

    Instead of having these athletes who cannot complete the requirements for a degree, why not have them go play in the NBA developmental league or a similar type program for the NFL. That way, there can be more spaces available for qualified students, rather than athletes.

    • I’ve been saying this for years. If major league baseball has its minor league teams to provide recruits, why shouldn’t the NBA and NFL do the same thing?

      • bilderbuster

        One of the cheap psychology ploys the NFL uses would be gone.
        Early in the game they always show the line up with the players stating their name & college team they played for on camera such as ” Treyvelle Jackson BYU” leaving usually the false impression that the semi-retarded Black player is a college gradgeeyit when 80% never even have degrees.

  • refocus

    Look… this is obviously another text book example of white racism.

    The star collegiate athletes are expected to win, and to do so they have to practice a lot. Now some white whiners complain that they cannot read and claim that somehow an exception is being made, that somehow these incredibly beautiful men and womyn are not as good as some theoretical *white person* !

    How dare you peddle this racism in today’s day and age.

  • jambi19

    They get a whole lot more than that at the University. Try never paying for anything at bars, restaurants or hotels. Also more white women than Hugh Hefner.

    • Mergatroyd

      I read last night these women, mostly White and college-aged, are called “cleat chasers,” a term I’d never heard, but now duly noted and entered into my lexicon.

  • JohnEngelman

    It is not the fault of public schools that they read like fifth graders. They lack the intelligence to read better.

  • JohnEngelman

    Blacks tend to be talented athletically, but limited intellectually. Few have the intelligence to earn a meaningful college degree.

    • Laura Dilworth

      and have had some success in entertainment

  • Bardon Kaldian

    The real question is: why this American obsession with college & university sports ? “Normal” higher education institutions in France, Britain, Switzerland, Germany, Italy, Russia, ….. simply don’t have this kind of addiction. Essentially, US universities have been remodeled -mostly- after German higher learning system in 1880s and later. I perfectly understand 19th C professors-enthusiasts (rugby, basketball, ..): this was the golden age of “Swedish gymnastics” & modern physical culture in the western world. So far, so good. But, during 20th C, and especially after 1960s- college sports fixation has become both redundant & harmful. If one’s career, irrespective of race, is in the area of athleticism- good for him or her. But, this should have zero connection with the very idea of studying & learning.

  • refocus

    No. Idiocracy is here now today.

  • Thor Bonham

    You can’t make this s#!t up ..

  • Mergatroyd

    Black football and basketball players are interchangeable, expendable pawns used to satisfy the demands of universities and wealthy donors. The universities, athletic depts., donors and fans don’t care unless and only so long as these morons can carry a ball. After that, they are tossed aside like trash. I’m sure the blacks all believe the NFL or NBA will come calling, which for most is not the case.

    The only color that matters to the university and athletic dept., is GREEN.

  • Mergatroyd

    The difference is, a kid can go straight to the NBA (LeBron, Kobe) or NHL (Gretzky) or MLB from high school, but, unfortunately, not to the NFL. A farm system would be a much better option for the NFL.

  • Massif1

    CNN was quick to remove the link from the front site as soon as the most comments were about blacks. The moderators swooped in and deleted all “racists” comments.

    Blacks that should have been going into job corps are instead given opportunities to attend top schools. We sure do live in affirmative action wonderland.

  • 3jwells

    This is really no surprise. All one really has to do is listen to these scholars during their before/after game interviews. Duh! Complete sentence anyone?

  • Shadrach

    Its like high school all over again! The jocks get a free pass to goof off and not do anything productive so they can play sports and when it ends, they live on the streets!

  • Garrett Brown

    I would wager many more northern girls are partying with blacks than southern. Most white girls I know (Virginia home state, family in Alabama, frequent trips to Tennessee and Georgia, yearly vacations in the Carolinas) find any contact with them disgusting. Mostly from their Christian upbringing, yet they still vote Democratic/progressively because of their education.

  • JohnEngelman

    This is more of a joke than a scandal. College football and basketball games return a profit to college athletic programs. Nobody is harmed by this. A law to require college football and basketball players to meet the academic requirements of regular students would get very little support.

    College football and basketball players who have double digit IQ’s yet who attend elite universities are better off than they would be otherwise. Their educations won’t do them any good. The vast majority will not be chosen for professional teams. Nevertheless, they will acquire a lifetime of memories.

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      I would support a law requiring them to meet the academic requirements of regular students because it would get the dumbest ones off the campus, and the dumbest ones are usually the most violent ones.

      Removing them from college sports would prevent thousands of crimes against normal, non-violent students every year. Real college students shouldn’t have to feel like they’re in a war zone with danger just around the corner on a daily basis.

      • Are you from Alberta? If so I have a follow up question.

        • GeneticsareDestiny

          No, I am from Minnesota.

  • Tarczan

    Years ago the NAACP objected to the NCAA raising the academic standards for athletes. I couldn’t find any info on this, does anybody have a link to this?

  • NoMosqueHere

    America was much better in the 1950s. Sexual freedom was more constrained than today, but people still had romances, fell in love, and had fulfilled lives. And our country was around 90 percent white, cultural cohesion was the norm, and people felt safer in public places. A return to the 1950s is unlikely, but I can dream, can’t I?

  • NoMosqueHere

    The best outcome would be for schools such as Duke, NC, etc. to eliminate or cut back on their sports programs, but that won’t happen. So they should permit their illiterate black athletes to major in ‘Sports’, and put them in a special elementary level division — preferably a long distance from the regular academic schools — that also teach adult skills such as plumbing, janitorial services or fast food technology.

  • FransSusan

    You’re right; there really is no way because they’re not capable of reading beyond a 3rd grade level. It’s time, long past time, for everyone to face that fact so teachers can stop beating their heads against the wall!

  • FransSusan

    A question a bit off topic but education related:

    I’d like to know if anyone knows if Neil Tyson, PhD is an astrophysicist as he claims. He has the degrees, but affirmative action could easily account for that. He’s on the cover of Parade magazine in today’s paper. Anyone familiar with him? He seems more affirmative action and entertainer than astrophysicist to me. Plus, he was essentially kicked out of Univ. of Texas for failure to succeed in their program. Of course that was blamed on racism.