Fox News Host Megyn Kelly Says Jesus and Santa Are White

Eric Pfeiffer, Yahoo! News, December 13, 2013

Fox News host Megyn Kelly has made herself the center of a racial controversy by declaring that Jesus Christ and Santa Claus are white.

On Wednesday night, Kelly was responding to an article by Slate writer Aisha Harris, who wrote an article entitled “Santa Claus Should Not Be a White Man Anymore.”

The popular news host told viewers of “The Kelly File,” her hit FNC program, “When I saw this headline, I kinda laughed and I said, ‘Oh, this is ridiculous. Yet another person claiming it’s racist to have a white Santa.’ And by the way, for all you kids watching at home, Santa just is white. But this person is maybe just arguing that we should also have a black Santa. But, you know, Santa is what he is, and just so you know, we’re just debating this because someone wrote about it, kids.”

Of course, a number of critics were quick to point out that Santa Claus is a fictional character. And while he was based on St. Nicholas, a white man, his exact description is largely left up to individual interpretation.

However, after a guest on Kelly’s show defended the Slate article, Kelly extended her argument to further claim that the historical figure Jesus Christ was in fact Caucasian:

“Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn’t mean it has to change. You know, I mean, Jesus was a white man, too,” Kelly said. “He was a historical figure; that’s a verifiable fact—as is Santa, I want you kids watching to know that—but my point is: How do you revise it, in the middle of the legacy of the story, and change Santa from white to black?”

Unlike Santa, the racial heritage of Jesus Christ has been debated for years. Technically, the New Testament does not contain a description of his skin pigment, though most modern Western depictions do portray him as a white man. Though there is little to no factual or scholarly work on the biblical figure’s racial heritage, a 2011 BBC documentary “Son of God” attempted to create a modern composite of what Jesus might have looked like. The analysis concluded that such a historic figure would likely have had dark skin, based on the Middle Eastern desert climate in which the New Testament stories took place. “Experts have decided Jesus would have been anything but pearly white,” the BBC declared.

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  • I didn’t think much of Megyn Kelly and her show after the first week. But she’s starting to get better. I still think her interviewing skills need a lot of work, but a lot of people, especially middle aged men who pop those “pills,” will miss that for her obvious best attribute.

    • Dave4088

      Your excitement may be unfounded. I just caught her show and she said her Dec.11 claim that Santa Claus is white was really made tongue in cheek, so my hopes are dashed.

      • Kenner

        She treated the whole thing as a joke.

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          • George Clark

            You mean she needs to be exposed to “liberal” “venom?” It’s pretty toxic, and leaves an incredible scar. Not to mention a lot of welfare babies.

        • Fr. John+

          She HAS to, in order to keep her job! Who owns the networks? WHo must she suck up to? Think ‘-berg,’-witz’- and ‘-stein,’ and you have your answer. Don’t believe it? Read Joel Stein’s LA Times article from 2008, where they admit it!

      • NordicHeritage

        It’s all choreographed theater.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Oh yeah. I commented already on the original. Santa (Saint) Claus (as in ‘Clause, as in Nicholas) was no doubt white.
    Haysoos Christ, however, due to were he was born and lived his life, was probably a mixed race individual.

    • Katherine McChesney

      More likely olive complexioned.

      • ben no

        You gotta love how they presume his skin type would be brown and have direct relation to the surrounding climate when men and women back then were well-know travelers. And in the middle east, you can still find some light-skinned people from European origin who’d passed through and stayed in ancient times, especially if they were followers of worship, crossing over from the expanded Roman empire. It seems the liberal left are desperate to erase everything to do with white people and their connections with belief and religious figures. Sure you can’t prove he was white, but to say he would be anything BUT white is a liberal desperation in my opinion.

    • Max Krakah

      what races were mixed?There were no sub saharan africans in that area at that time.

    • Sick of it

      Mixed race from the black and Mongol invaders (or slaves) in ancient times…? That all happened after His death.

  • Typical Snotty Liberal

    “Fox News host Megyn Kelly has made herself the center of a racial controversy by declaring that Jesus Christ and Santa Claus are white.”

    Watch out guys, we are dealing with a racist imbecile over here. Megyn Kelly needs to be culturally enriched.

    DIVERSITY IS GOOD!
    DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH!

    • Allan477

      Unity is strength. Diversity is weakness.

      • tlk244182

        I thought ignorance was strength. What’s ignorance, again?

        • NeanderthalDNA

          Muere la inteligensia, viva la muerte!
          Death to the intelligentsia, long live Death!*
          *Often translated as ‘Dearth to intelligence’, which is pretty badass in my opinion, but I nonetheless prefer my translation on an intellectual level.

    • NeanderthalDNA

      Merry muthafuggin Xmas muthafuggas!

      This, the antinomian Santa Claus, then mugs, robs, or begs from you leaving nothing in return beyond the smell of stale bumwine and a feeling of confused hostility.

  • David Ashton

    Jesus was really a negro butch lesbian dwarf proto-communist with one eye and one leg who went round curing people like Mary Seacole.

    • D.B. Cooper

      The LORD says, “O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you?”

    • Katherine McChesney

      Your description sounds more like the Muslim anti-christ but he is a a hairy, one eyed and one legged man.

      • David Ashton

        My irony refers to current pseudo-scholarly claims that Jesus was a “darkie” with “woolly hair”, the leader of a homosexual cult, an early welfare-socialist, the “partner” of a mad prostitute, an effeminate pacfist, a diminutive cripple, &c.

  • bigone4u

    A black male in a Santa suit is not Santa Clause, he’s Ghetto Claws. A black woman in a Santa suit is, well, an abomination too.

    • Spartacus

      ….

    • Homo_Occidentalis

      There are already plenty of black “Santas” who set off burglar alarms every year. Dey jus bein festive, nome saing?

    • Oldcorporal

      Ghetto Claws! That’s rich, man!

    • John K

      Kwanzaa Klaus

  • Andy

    Jesus probably would have looked like a Levantine – tan but clearly “white” skin, brown hair, and either dark or light eyes. Clearly he would not have been “pearly” – “pearly” white is not a human skin color.

    • So CAL Snowman

      So you’re saying that Jesus wasn’t Irish?

      • Ragehol .

        I’d say what he was but a moderator would delete it. HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

    • Oldcorporal

      In other words, He wouldn’t have looked like a Norwegian. But He wouldn’t have looked like Uncle Remus, either.

      • George Clark

        Uncle Remus was a pretty pissed off looking mofo in “Song of the South.” Not a peaceful type at all.

  • Byron Calvert

    Yes, as a “first century Palestinian,” I’m sure this Jesus fellow had olive skin and dark hair and dark eyes. Sounds like a description of George Zimmerman. Maybe Jesus was a “White Palestinian.” If you recall, Osama Bin Laden’s FBI wanted poster listed him as a White male as well.

  • bubo

    White people invented Santa, which is an amalgamation of the Greek Saint NIkolous and the northern European Sinterklass. If Asians, Arabs or Sub-Saharans had invented him he would look like them.

    Silly libs and blacks like to push the false narrative of “Jesus having hair of pure wool” as being black African. The passage in question is from the book of Daniel and he is describing his vision of God, not Jesus.

    • Oldcorporal

      If they want to suggest that Jesus might have been black, why don’t they suggest that Judas Iscariot might have been of the dusky hue, also?

      • David Ashton

        For some writers Judas is the real “goodie” – guess why.

      • stewball

        And of course he was.

    • Yale2001

      Their desperation to make everyone’s past culture black is ridiculous.

  • Ragehol .

    Jesus never existed and even if he did he was just a dumb jew pushing phony religion and morality and science that got whacked by the Romans. Christianity is the death of our race. Ditch it and be an atheist.

    Judeo-Christ insanity. The War on Christmas should be waged by White people.

  • So CAL Snowman

    It’s funny, we don’t have screaming matches about the race of fictional black characters because the blacks have never invented one that appealed to Whites.

    • Ragehol .

      You think Christianity was “invented by Whites?”

      Santa Claus is more worthy of worship.

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      Not entirely true. Millions of Whites worship MLK, and what they know about him is 100% fictional. However he is the creation of a subset of Whites that shall not be named.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      I don’t know, how about Nelson Mandela? His character is completely fictional.

      • Grantland

        Really, gotta say this. I’m a South African born and bred – and somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan. I lived through apartheid and the transition up to the present. Nelson Mandela was a good man. A Great Man, really, if you know the facts. Not evil. Did he use violence to secure the freedom of his people? Yep, he was a terrorist. We could use a few of those on our side.

  • Lord_Steven_Regal

    I’ve been battling Liberals all day on this topic. Their cognitive dissonance is amazing. First, they act as though Kelly came out of the blue and demanded that Santa be white rather than the truth that Kelly was responding to a black woman who demanded that Santa not be white. Second, they say that Kelly saying that Santa should be white is racist; but the black woman is not racist for suggesting Santa should not be white. I’m not sure why I even engage these people. They are a lost cause. They cannot be rehabilitated.

    Even more aggravating is that people who side with the white haters feel comfortable enough to jump in and support them, but people who side with us (and we know there are plenty) bite their tongue out of fear of being labeled racist.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Correct. Insane white libs are calling Ms. Kelly a racist while giving a free pass to the bonkers Bantu Bozo who created this controversy in the first place.

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      Yeah, when I saw the headline on Yahoo that’s exactly what I thought too – that Kelly just popped out with it. There is no outrage about recasting Santa as a penguin by the decree of a feebleminded black, but daring to state historical facts about Santa and Jesus makes the mountains slide into the sea.

      • ms_anthro

        Let’s not forget that this Aisha character actually wrote that penguins are mammals, not birds, forcing the site to print a correction. Leftists are beyond parody now.

        • ShermanTMcCoy

          No, 2-digit IQ negros are beyond parody.

        • Brian

          Penguins living at the _north_ pole is a howler too.

    • [Guest]

      I’ve had similar experiences dealing with the extremists. I believe the best method is to keep your comments fact-based and reasonable no matter how fanatical and vicious they get and no matter how much they bait you. I believe they gang up and attack like rabid hyenas partly because they know there’s something in what you say, and they need constant reassurance from one another.

      >>> … People who side with us (and we know there are plenty) bite their tongue out of fear of being labeled racist.

      For quite a while, I bit my tongue too. It seems that the people with the most stupid things to say are most eager to speak and speak loudly. Reasonable people are more hesitant.

      • Kenner

        Excellent post. I love when our people understand strategy, instead of arguing who is ‘white enough’ [most aggravating thread on Amren].

        • [Guest]

          Thank you.

        • [Guest]

          I admire Jared Taylor’s approach, although I think he sometimes errs by being too gentlemanly.

      • robinbishop34

        “I believe the best method is to keep your comments fact-based and reasonable no matter how fanatical and vicious they get…”

        This works well but it is exhausting because you have to address the same predictable nonsense over and over. The way I look at it, I’m less interested in changing the mentally ill person’s way of seeing things and realize there are a lot of other people reading our exchange (who aren’t commenting) that will maybe have a light bulb go off.

        • [Guest]

          That’s a good point. It’s a lot like how Jared Taylor seems to approach things in public debate. He puts good points across to an audience even when he’s ostensibly having a one-on-one exchange with a hostile interviewer or other opponent. The interviewer attempts to bait him, but he doesn’t bite.

        • David Ashton

          We have to aim at the third parties, so to speak, especially rebellious but intelligent young people.

        • Yale2001

          Robin, Love your avatar.

        • Grantland

          “I believe the best method is to keep your comments fact-based and reasonable no matter how fanatical and vicious they get…

          I totally agree..”

          No, the best method is to smash the face of your enemy with an iron fist.

      • David Ashton

        There is a saying: “Scratch a liberal and you find a nazi.” Many repress their own “racism” because it is actually less rational than our realism.

    • Yale2001

      Bingo. The truth is “racist”.

  • George Clark

    santa is white, of course. he does, however, have a black helper, named black peter. black peter is, if i remember correctly, the imp who takes back toys from naughty children in the netherlands. i think he emigrated to the u.s. via kenya a while back. [please excuse my lowercase letters and occasional typo. had a defib implanted yesterday and can only type with one hand. and oh the irony that if/when black peter has his way, this naughty republican will have his defib unit taken away and given to a more deserving democrat].

    • Oldcorporal

      I thought about that, too, when I read about Ms. Kelly’s remarks. If it’s so desirable to have Santa black, then what’s wrong with Black Peter, or “Swart Piet” in Dutch, who is ALREADY black? But liberal knuckleheads in the Netherlands are trying to have Pete banned.

      • Katherine McChesney

        They complain that Swart Piet is portrayed as a servant to a White man.

    • Katherine McChesney

      Black peter isn’t punishing. He is Sinter Klaus’ helper. He is jolly and fun to be around. The Dutch love Black Peter. My brother-in-law is Dutch and he was furious when I told him about the black racists in Holland who want to put an end to Black Peter because he is a so-called ‘servant’. At present, he’s in Holland for the holidays.

      • ShermanTMcCoy

        The Dutch love black peter? I think I begin to understand one of the problems in Holland.

      • George Clark

        I ought to have looked a little more closely before posting about Black Peter. I have read up a bit more on him, and have found nothing to indicate that he is not adored. His black appearance is apparently from sliding down chimneys and picking up soot.

        I originally read about Black Peter in a thread on another forum, not sure where, a few years back. Basically, the story was about how Dutch libs and Dutch Blacks were trying to get Black Peter banned. Part of this was because he was viewed as a “servant,” but the other reason–and I am not saying that this is true, but it was given in the article–was that because Black Peter took back the gifts from naughty kids, when Dutch children would see blacks on the street around Christmas time, they would shriek and run away, fearing that they might have done something naughty, and that Black Peter would come after them. Again, I am posting from memory, but I think that was the gist of it.

        I imagine that what really happened is that children were probably excited about seeing Black Peter, and probably laughed or giggled in joy, and pointed at the Blacks, seeing “Santa’s Helper.” Probably used as an excuse to give the blacks something to cry about, and feel oppressed about. Again, just conjecture, but strikes me as typical black and liberal behavior.

        Thanks for correcting me on Black Peter–glad I know more of the “real” story of Santa’s helper. Merry Christmas.

  • Megyn Kelly said “No” to people with a childlike mentality. In the eyes of Liberals and blacks, she committed a crime because did not allow them to rewrite history in their preferred version.

    • Katherine McChesney

      “Childlike”???? Sounds more like childishness to me.

  • Who Me?

    Megyn Kelly is a twit, but in this case she is right. Santa Claus is clearly a European legend, and therefore is correctly depicted as a person of European extraction. Jesus was an historical individual whose mother was a pure Jewess of the line of David. He was raised and educated as an ordinary Jew of his time, and therefore likely an individual of a rather swarthy, but still clearly white race. In most, and there are many historical legends of Demi-Gods (half human, half divine offspring) the child takes the race of the human mother.

    • Druid

      Sir, take that back. You can’t use such language. She is notatwat…

    • Kenner

      She is not a twit. She is intelligent and it shows.

    • David Ashton

      If Jesus had no human biological father, where did he get his male chromosome?How much of him on this theological supposition was specially created and therefore an artificial replica of a human being? Education would not have affected his skin colour. He was in real life far from being “an ordinary Jew”. The most ancient Jewish accusation was that he was literally illegitimate and that his father was foreign.

      And what do we really know about his “hidden years”?

      I have written an essay on his scintillating sense of humour for The Quarterly Review, and propose to write another on the possibility of psychoactive substances as responsible for some of the “Easter experiences”.

      • MBlanc46

        ‘[P]ropose to write another on the possibility of psychoactive substances as responsible for some of the “Easter experiences”‘.

        Many years ago I read a book called (as I recall) “The Mushroom and the Cross”, which claimed that early Christianity was an Amanita muscaria cult and that early Christian literature was a coded guide to the cult beliefs and practices.

        • David Ashton

          Thank you for this reminder. Allegro was a congenital maverick, though also an expert on Dead Sea Scrolls decipherment and the Sumerian language, but I think he overstated his case about Jesus. He wrote a fairly good book about Jewish history and also a brave article against miscegenation between the primary human subspecies. I am against the modern consumption and marketing (pace Soros) of addictive brain poisons, but there is a good chance that some drugs were used for “spiritual” purposes in very early Christianity.

      • George Clark

        You “propose to write another on the possibility of psychoactive substances as responsible for some of the “Easter experiences”. Would similar substances account for muhammad’s “magic carpet ride,” or is that out of your area of expertise? Not trying to be a smartass–I’m not a scholar in that area. Just genuinely curious. My area of expertise overlaps, tangentially–via Hawthorne and Melville, among others–with the period involving the “Salem Witch Hunts.” Much hay has been made that the children who basically caused the witch hunts were possibly under the psychoactive influence of a certain “ergot” rye blight. I’ve read Cotton Mather’s descriptions of the actions of the girls–he claimed to have actually witnessed supernatural phenomena. Have always wondered if he made it all up, or if he were tripping on rye blight as well, or if–well, there probably weren’t really witches.

        • David Ashton

          Thanks for the Salem notice.

          Some of Muhammad’s experiences may well have been caused that way. He and Saint (“third heaven”) Paul were reputedly eplileptic (as also Dostoevsky I think). Joseph Smith was a fraud, so we cannot take his accounts too seriously however caused. The much criticised Margaret Murray listed several substances probably used to give witches their experiences of flying, etc. As you know, Aldous Huxley “experimented” for “transcendental” experiences in his search for “perennial religion”. This whole area has only just been investigated for mysticism in religion, but my area of expertise is slight, amateur and marginal, and has arisen only after looking carefully at just a few statements in the NT itself.

    • saxonsun

      She’s extremely intelligent–nothing twitty about her.

    • That explains my own appearance. My ex-father is the Antichrist, but I don’t look like that thing.

  • je suis paganisme

    Jesus was born in a region called “Galilee of the Gentiles.” The rabbis gave it that name because of the tremendous Gentile presence. So was Jesus a “Gentile”? And does this myth spring from historical roots?
    No one knows; no one can know. Matthew and Luke both worked hard to find a way for Jesus to be born in Bethlehem, in Galilee. They did this in order for what they considered “prophecy” to be fulfilled. Matthew, especially, wanted to show that the Christian beliefs were a fulfillment of Judaism. These unknown gospel writers also tried, while contradicting each other, to establish Jesus’ royal lineage from David. Mark and John have no genealogical fictions. The whole thing is so embellished that historical inquiries are like maneuvering through a fog.
    But the newscaster is right. The peoples of North Africa and the middle East are classified as “Caucasian.” But it was Europe that gave life to Christianity. Santa Claus is ours, and we made Jesus. Yes, we made him. Without Europe, he would have been nothing.

    • Matthew Taylor

      Without Jesus, Europe would have been nothing.

      • Max Krakah

        Without Europe, Jesus would have been nothing

    • Do you know of the three sons of Noah from Genesis 10 i.e the Japhetic peoples of Europe, the Semitic peoples of Asia and the Hamitic peoples of Africa, which group Jesus was meant to come from?

    • Katherine McChesney

      Jesus ROYAL lineage was through his step-father Joseph who was of the House of David. His BIOLOGICAL lineage was through Mary who was also a descendent of David. Matthew names his forefathers and foremothers.

      • itdoesnotmatter

        Katherine, Jesus can have no earthly lineage, in spite of the contradictory, heavily interpolated Gospels’ versions of His genealogy.
        The Virgin Mary was immaculately conceived, therefore born without original sin, as was He.
        Joseph had nothing to do with His biological conception and birth. That makes Jesus the Son of G-d and no one else.

        • David Ashton

          The distinguished theologian Karl Adam almost (not quite) alone among Catholic priests supported the Nazi line on “positive Christianity” by contending that the immaculate conception of Mary removed any adverse features of Jewish inheritance.

          • itdoesnotmatter

            David, my post was the dogma I was taught as a child; I no longer believe any of it. The scriptures, interpolated and contemporized over and over throughout the ages, are documents of faith, not historicity. No one can know the absolute truth of these matters.
            If Jesus did, in fact exist, he was a Jewish citizen in the far flung Roman colony of Judea, overseen by the prefect, Pontius Pilate under Emperor Tiberius.

          • David Ashton

            Briefly, I have studied Christmyth theories since youth and yet personally now believe that Jesus was one real person, and that you can reach provisional probabilities about him by careful analysis of the records available. I don’t believe in Father Christmas and in my case prayers to Father God have been even less productive as an adult than my letters up the fireplace as a child. I have said I would avoid debating on AmRen in future, but interesting comments like yours “lead me into temptation”.

    • David Ashton

      There were two Bethlehems, one in Judea and the other several miles to the west of Nazareth in Galilee. If Jesus had any particular adult base for the events in the gospel accounts it would have been Capernaum, which had a Gentile presence, although his primary mission seems to have been to the “children of Israel” (whose biological anthropology is itself also somewhat “foggy”).

    • Bossman

      You’re mostly correct. The Egyptians were the first to make him into a God because his life story was already very similar to their own chief God Osiris.

      • And the ankh symbol mutated into the cross.

        • Bossman

          You’re very wise. Stuff like that is privileged knowledge. The ankh symbol was also a symbol of life affirmation.

        • Bossman

          That is correct.

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    Megyn Kelly should’ve responded, MLK should not be a Black man anymore! You know what Mark Twain said about arguing with a fool.

  • Strike_Team

    Santa is a creation of white Europeans, of course he’s white. Part of this dark Santa campaign is likely a forerunner of complaints we’re going to hear about the latest “Hobbit” movie, no blacks or people of color cast, etc. More and more I look at stories like this as just one part of a larger coordinated campaign.

    If Jesus existed, he would likely look like a Middle Easterner, so I don’t see what the fuss is about. He’d be Caucasian, but he wouldn’t look like Brad Pitt.

    Megyn Kelly cuts people off too often. I’ve gotten a laugh out of her cutting off and shutting down the usual suspects here and there, but too often she speaks over someone making a good point. She needs to work on that.

    • Katherine McChesney

      “Megyn Kelly cuts people off too often. I’ve gotten a laugh out of her
      cutting off and shutting down the usual suspects here and there, but too
      often she speaks over someone making a good point. She needs to work on
      that.”

      Shades of Bill O’Reilly.

      • Non Humans

        Thats why I watch none of those shows. Its so aggravating when they let their own guests get 2-3 words out before they interrupt and talk right through them.
        .
        Its so common with nearly all of the talk news shows that I see it as pathologic. Its as if they feel that there isnt any conversation if they arent hearing their own voice in perpetuity. Completely kills it for me.

      • Kenner

        The only one left on Fox that just keeps yelling is Hannity. Kelly and O’Reilly keep it moving and usually don’t steamroll guests anymore.

      • saxonsun

        She’s a lot smarter than billy boy though.

    • CoweringCoward

      Yeah the thought of a black Santa sneaking into my home in the night kinda sends shivers down my spine. Remember the Futurama episode where Santa was a murderous robot and every X-mas everyone barricaded themselves in lest they be slaughtered my Santa? I see this being the reality of a black Santa, with the supernatural ability to slide down all our chimneys and into our homes, the Mulatto hordes we would see birthed EVERY September would be too much! Cause ya know black Santa, well, dat’s jus how he rolls yo.

  • Oldcorporal

    Kelly could have worded her comments a little more carefully, but basically she’s right about Santa Claus, as St. Nicholas was a Greek, and therefore by definition, Caucasian. As to Jesus, who knows? I suspect there have been black Jesuses depicted in black churches — and black Santa Clauses in inner city shopping areas at Christmastime. I think people tend to imagine both characters — or rather, people, as Santa is based on a real person — in a way that corresponds most to their OWN appearance. After all, race DOES matter.

    • David Ashton

      Same thing re Saint George, whose fair hair is overlooked in the campaign to make him totally foreign to the English who have him as symbolic royal patron saint. I speak without bias as my ancestry is indigenous to the British Isles but I have black hair myself (like some Vikings).

    • Jack Burton

      What do you mean worded her comments more carefully? She could have been a complete spineless jellyfish like you?

  • The Verdict of History

    Finally! Some rational commentary here with a basis in historical accuracy.

  • Garrett Brown

    The comments on that Youtube video… We are so screwed.

  • Alexandra1973

    Jesus was not a Caucasian when He lived among us, He was a Jew.

  • Katherine McChesney

    Bet her statement that Jesus was a White man got blacks all in an uproar since their churches teach that he was a black man and that blacks are the true Israelites.

    Black myths are laughable.

    • Alexandra1973

      If you ever get that nonsense from some black, ask them what tribe they’re from.

      (It also works with JWs.)

      • Katherine McChesney

        Thanks. Great suggestion. That would take the wind out of their sails.

    • John K

      They were also the first Egyptians and could build the pyramids with their telepathic mind powers, they taught the Greeks mathematics, and built Rome; yet somehow, they came to America and became dependent on food stamps and welfare checks.

      • CoweringCoward

        That’s because we STOLE all their “Afro-Tech” and left them NOTHING. We are evil ba$tard$ indeed.
        They used to have wings too and fly around “their” freshly built pyramids as well. (they really did have some afro-freakizoid teaching this)

    • Bossman

      Yes, Black myths are laughable, so also are white myths when you become well-educated. Jesus and Santa are creatures of the imaginations.

  • A Freespeechzone

    Watch, it’s only a matter of time before she’s forced to apologize for disrespecting a dark person’s assertion.

    Free speech is not part of the liberal and black mindset if it doesn’t support their outrageous assertions.

  • Staging debates like this one, was always one of the goals of the Communists in the cultural takeover of the US.
    It makes me sick thinking that this is even being talked about.
    To a conservative, this is hate speech, but for some reason the rules have been turned around to benefit the hater.
    Every group on earth has traditions that seem odd to outsiders and that probably don’t stand up to ridicule, yet we have to respect all other groups traditions under the threat of being xenophobic, racist etc.
    Yet our traditions are fair game for everybody and anybody to debate, because apparently our culture is the world’s culture, funnily though I don’t remember ever being asked to vote on that decision.
    And as for this black female writer, you represent a minority group, meaning what you want isn’t what the majority wants and anyway isn’t that why Kwanzaa was invented, to appease the blacks?
    And how to do you please every ethnic group on earth with a representation of a visual ethnicity, give everyone their own one reflecting their exact background or just create some ethnic middle ground person who represents everyone? Who’ll probably end up looking like a Afro-Arab with blue eyes.

    No the goal here is to destroy the notion of Christmas for White people.
    I just wish that if these people don’t like us, that they’d go somewhere else and leave us alone.
    When are we going to start kicking people out anyway?
    Give them the decision between agreeing that Santa is White or they have to relocate to Central America or anywhere in Africa, then this debate would end straight away, but no we coddle these ungrateful parasites instead.
    Have a merry White Christmas!!

    • Max Krakah

      True, this is communist dialectic pure and simple. Best to just ignore it.

      • David Ashton

        No, it must be fought wherever and whenever possible.

        • Max Krakah

          It is best to ignore it. It is best to treat the suggestion that Santa Claus and Jesus were not white as too ridiculous to even deserve a reply.

          • David Ashton

            The notion that Jesus was really a swarthy brown-skinned dark-eyed big-nosed middle easterner, based on fallacious forensics, (see Wikipedia “Depiction of Jesus/Range…”) and an ugly dwarf (see e.g. Don Cupitt & Peter Armstrong, “Who was Jesus?” (BBC 1977), pp.27-28; Michael D. Magee, “The Hidden Jesus” (1997) p.96) are becoming widespread, and require refutation. Of course, some of the types pushing this mush have meanwhile found a new real-life Black Saviour, as the last few days of the Global Media has demonstrated.

  • Johnny Squire

    It seems to me that if black people want their own separate Santa or their own separate Jesus, then by all means, white people shouldn’t get in their way. I’m all for separate churches, neighborhoods and schools, too. Give blacks all the separation they want. If it all leads to separate nations then it will be worth it.

  • Luca

    Notice that Yahoo is making the claim that Megyn Kelly is saying something “controversial”. According to whom?

    Yahoo and other liberal propaganda outlets can only dream about having a fraction of the ratings this woman has achieved.

    They’re trying to assassinate her in the media to steal some of her thunder.

    Ain’t gonna happen. This conservative woman has too much going for her.

    • CoweringCoward

      And she is HOT.

    • Kenner

      Her wry expression throughout spoke volumes.

  • Druid

    Dumb Conversation for the most part. I pass a beach when out walking and i notice that the birds at the beach don’t seem to mix with other birds. for example. The ducks all stay with the other ducks and the short neck geese stay with the short neck geese and the gulls with the gulls, and none of them seem to want to mix with the other type birds. Dosen’t anyone think that maybe a pigeon should be allowed to hang around with the short neck geese? Or would that make the short neck geese feel uncomfortable? Should there be a social worker sent down to talk to the birds about how good multi-cultured species would be for all the different birds?

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    The analysis concluded that such a historic figure would likely have had dark skin, based on the Middle Eastern desert climate in which the New Testament stories took place.

    So he was Arab and not black. Does that make blacks feel any better? Also, where was his commitment to diversity? The Bible gives no record of his seeking out disciples of other races (not to mention both sexes).

  • DonReynolds

    Excuse me. But as long as Oprah can be black, Santa can be white. As long as Martin Luther King can be black, Santa can be white. You get the idea?

  • John K

    She is correct. Nothing is more offensive to minorities than the truth.

    • CoweringCoward

      Don’t forget higher functioning people, they HATE that even more.

      • Kenner

        Shhhh!!

  • Dave4088

    Tonight Ms. Kelly debated a black cultural Marxist named Zerlina Maxwell. Zerlina said that the image of a white Santa Claus was alienating to her as a child as well as to other black children, so her family made Santa, the elves and angels black people. Maxwell’s statement is yet more proof that race is real and race matters, but it was a lesson most likely lost on Megyn Kelly.

    If whites were a sane and proud people, Megyn Kelly would have reminded Zerlina that blacks are guests in America and that the sight of a bigoted black man squatting in the oval office is alienating to the white majority.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Indeed. Obama ruling over me HAS alienated me tremendously towards my own country.

      • WR_the_realist

        I agree, but to be fair George W. Bush alienated me just as much.

    • Kenner

      Dave. Dave…she finessed it beautifully, throwing a crumb to the black, and treating the non-issue as well, a non-issue.

      • Dave4088

        But it isn’t a non-issue. You have black supremacists like Zerlina denigrating white Santa Claus just because he’s white and Megyn gave her free air time to spew her bigotry instead of challenging her. This is why conservatives have been getting mauled in the culture (racial) wars because they don’t have the courage of their convictions and treat everything like a big joke unlike the radical anti-white left.

        • Jack Burton

          That’s correct. Kelly can smirk all day long and be “tongue-in-cheek” while our people continue to be demoralized and we lose our country.

          Santa and Jesus are not just some comic book characters, some irrelevant fiction that can be recreated in any fashion people desire to suit their egos. They are traditional icons, with cultural and immense psychological value to our people, they are part of the European soul. They are also based on real historical figures, this should not be forgotten.

          This cannot be understated and laughed off as a joke. These attacks are psychological warfare, not to be taken lightly in jest. What Aisha wrote was nothing but disrespect and hatred. Muslims have a much healthier reaction when people attack their culture, they defend their traditions, sometimes with lethality.

      • Jack Burton

        She’s adept at keeping her job, but that doesn’t address the ridiculous argument or do anything to help Whites.

  • Non Humans

    Next thing you know, snow will be racist for being white. Then the weathermen will all be racists for predicting the snow. Then the nonhumans will get their racist panties twisted bc of special services created to manage the snow (salt and plow trucks).
    .
    And dont even get me started on “Black Ice”… I will say though, that black ice has the same effect on vehicles that nonhumans do on any and every civilisation that they infest.

    • IstvanIN

      When snow mixes with grime on the street you get what looks like “New Americans”.

      • Even the stuff around the top of Mount Kilimanjaro is white. Colonial oppression of the black man in Africa is with us to this day.

    • Kenner

      Key and Peele did an entire bit showing black weathermen becoming more and more outraged by the notion that ‘black ice’ is worse than white ice. Very funny.

    • David Ashton

      So long ago as the 1970s the BBC produced a Handbook on Multicultural Education for my “happy breed” in England which quoted with approval the statement that “the English language itself is racist”.

    • Albert Anastasia

      If snow is racist for being white, then tar is racist for being black ,period ..

      • “If snow is racist for being white, then tar is racist for being black ,period ..”

        Color is just a social construct. Don’t sweat it.

    • Andy

      Some thoughtful educators have determined that paper is racist for being white. They now give preschoolers dark paper to make their pictures on and have witches dressed in white and pink and fairies and princesses dressed in black.

      What’s fair is foul, and what’s foul is fair…

  • Dave4088

    This flap about Santa started by Aisha whoever is another example of how blacks must horn in on everything white, change it, or remake it in their image and likeness. They can never give anything a rest or leave white people and their traditions alone.

    It would be much better if they all went back to Africa.

    • ms_anthro

      The people who gave Aisha her soapbox in the first place are the problem here. Aisha is just the tool. Focus on the string-pullers, not the puppets.

      • Dave4088

        Yes, but we are not allowed to mention the string pullers on this site.

    • Albert Anastasia

      Yes, I have yet to see any white hone in on kawanza, or whatever that made up black holiday is .. I never heard any white say a word about it and how it isn’t inclusive .. Kneegrows are just a ridiculous bunch , they complain about EVERYTHING ..

      • Albert Anastasia …

        My Manhattan high school was just a couple of blocks from the Park Sheraton Hotel, where Albert was hit while he was getting his daily shave and trim in the streetside barber shop. I went there the following afternoon to add to my list of mob hit places I had visited.

    • Jack Burton

      I agree, however we can’t completely blame them. We forced our religion on them, and invite them to assimilate into our culture.

      Just as Christianity was forced on our pagan ancestors, and as a means of accepting the foreign religion Christianity assimilated many pagan practices to suit our psyche. Now blacks want to change it to suit their ego.

    • Max Krakah

      yes, ship them back to afrika where they can have their ju ju claus.

  • IstvanIN

    Who knows how White Jesus was? Perhaps the civilizations of the Middle East were a lot more White than they are today.

    • M.

      He was probably white-skinned and dark-haired. Some people in the Middle-East still look fairly white.
      This is a Jordanian Facebook friend of mine.

      • David Ashton

        Very pretty, you lucky penpal!

        • M.

          Yeah, she is. But she’s in Jordan. :/
          That kind of you’ll-probably-never-meet relations is as depressing as it is thrilling.

      • Jack Burton

        She would be the exception to the rule. The typical Jordanian and other Middle Eastern people are not simply a more tawny and darkhaired version of Northern Europeans.

        According to DNA studies Jordanians actually have significant sub-Saharan mtDNA admixture at 19%.

        You can see the sub-Saharan admixture more in their features than pigmentation, such as with Prince Ali Bin Al-Hussein.

        • IstvanIN

          But she might more accurately represent Roman-Era Palestine.

          • Jack Burton

            She represents an Atlanto-Mediterranid strain in the region. Whether it was more numerous during ancient times we can only speculate. It’s certainly not true now.

        • M.

          Exactly. That’s what I keep saying, but some people here keep insisting that Arabs are white.
          Arabs have mixed too much with their freed slaves in the past to be considered white.

          By the way, could you give me the source of your DNA study? I’d be interested to know how much sub-Saharan admixture each country has.

          • “Arabs have mixed too much with their freed slaves in the past to be considered white.”

            How much is too much?

          • M.

            They have about 25% negroid admixture on average. It’s higher in the Arabian peninsula, and lower in countries like Lebanon, Syria, and Jordan. And it shows in their looks, behavior, temper, and lower average intelligence, compared to whites.
            When it gets too noticeable, then it’s too much. Some of them do qualify as whites (who have maybe less than 10% African DNA), but most don’t.

      • Garrett Brown

        You lucky bastard you.

      • Max Krakah

        she could be Irish

    • Jack Burton

      They certainly had less sub-Saharan admixture than they do today, due to the trans-Saharan slave trade and African immigration from the modern era.

  • gemjunior

    He be white, axe anyone.

  • Kenner

    The entire bit was tongue-in-cheek. When the Bantus bit back, she didn’t apologize.

  • Kenner

    Black Pieter is a white man covered with chimney soot. Or is he really African?

  • Kenner

    She will not apologize…The time for that came and went.

    • saxonsun

      I hope you’re right.

  • Evette Coutier

    Santa is white. Jesus was middle eastern.

    • Bossman

      They are white icons.

    • Jack Burton

      To be clear, St. Nicholas of Myra was a Greek Christian saint, who was combined with Germanic pagan traditions and elements of Odin to create Santa Claus as we know him.

      Likewise Jesus and Christianity are a combination of Middle Eastern, Latin and Germanic traditions.

      There certainly is nothing sub-Saharan African about either of these subjects.

      If blacks are offended that our cultural traditions are European and don’t have any black symbolism, then they should worship their own heritage instead, and not try to rewrite history and alter our cultural heritage, that is disrespectful and hateful.

      If she’s so upset about a white Santa then she should try Kwanzaa instead.

      • Evette Coutier

        Blacks don’t create culture for the most part. They destroy it. Even when they have the ability, they use it for destruction. Take Spike Lee. He’s never added to culture, he’s used his movies to attack whites and white culture. Blacks become a cancer on every society and every culture they infest. So much is said about their low intelligence that the equally important factors of motivation and disposition are sometimes overlooked.

        • MBlanc46

          There’s also the propensity toward violence.

        • Max Krakah

          I have worked in the novelty entertainment field, drawing caricatures. I have worked events for “developmentally challenged” white people. They were slow, but they were not loud. They can sit remarkably still, a little too still as they are concentrating on accomplishing “stillness”. They are kind to each other, get along with each other and have manners. They are generally peaceful and gentle, just a little slow, for some it is barely perceptible, for others they speak as if they were a little drunk.
          My experience with blacks is very different, none of them can sit still for more than 3 seconds. Those milling about the room are usually loud and attacking each other either verbally or physically. Their whole demeanor is contained hostility. BTW, at jobs where there are wait staff , security staff, or maintenance staff that are black, the black ones will try to act as if they are one of the guests whom they are supposed to be serving. The black staff will ask or even demand that they get a novelty. White people will almost never initiate this , with blacks, it is just a matter of how long it will take before one of them does try it.

          Yes, IQ is just ONE of the differences. Aggression, lack of self control, and extreme narcissism seem to be independent of IQ.Low IQ and the degree of these traits are not inversely proportional in whites. In blacks these traits are present in abundance , and we just assume that it is due to IQ, I say these are traits independent of IQ and characteristic of the black race.

      • DLRisVH

        I have no problem with blacks creating “Bantu Clauz” but they need to leave Santa the White guy he is!

        • “”Bantu Clauz”

          That’s very good. I have to keep my snickering down or I’ll wake my wife.

    • alex

      “Jesus was middle eastern”.
      He was half middle eastern.
      In any case, it doesn’t make him black or Asian.

      • Evette Coutier

        I did not say he was black or Asia.

  • freddy_hills

    The left is howling about her comment that Santa and Jesus were white. But they have nothing to say about the blacks who started this nonsense by claiming Santa and Jesus were black. If it were any other group they’d be denouncing it as “cultural appropriation”. Let everyone see the left’s hypocrisy. They’re not anti-racist. They’re just anti-white. In this case, I think it’s a touch of anti-Christian as well. They’re pouring gas on the fire to attack Christmas and Christianity.

  • JohnEngelman

    Jesus was a Jew. Antisemites deny that Jews are whites. Aantisemites are of course mistaken.

    • M.

      Jews look like the folks they live among them, with some Semitic traits (especially around the nose).

    • Jack Burton

      Jews are not Europeans, that is a fact. Whether one wants to extend whiteness to Caucasoids outside of Europe is a question.

      However the subject here is that a lot of Afrocentrists and other assorted morons want to rewrite history and claim that Jesus and other historical figures were black or not Caucasoid.

      • Max Krakah

        I beg to differ, Jews are European. They are as European as Hungarians and Finns.

        • Jack Burton

          That’s a nonsensical argument and you don’t know your history.

          Why do you think Jews wanted a homeland in the Middle East? That is their historical origin. Recorded history and DNA evidence support this.

          Genetically Jews, especially Ashkenazi Jews, are European-West Asian hybrids, which is why some “look Jewish” and others can pass for White such as Bar Refaeli.

      • Ella

        If Jews mixed with gentile Europeans, then, they could be European. If they stayed within their own group and less acculturated, they are Semites. Some Jews see themselves as descendants of Old Testament bloodlines. I bet conservative Orthodox Jews do not see blood relations with “us” European gentiles.

        • Max Krakah

          A list of some actors and actresses that are Jewish and indisputably of a European phenotype – Tina Louise who played Ginger Grant on Gilligan’s Island, Natalie Schaefer who played Mrs. Howell on Gilligan’s Island, Steven Weber who was in “Wings”

        • Jack Burton

          Whether some mix or not doesn’t change their historical origin. During ancient times they were certainly less mixed than they are now.

  • David Ashton

    I regret to say that this letter like that by “Lentulus” is not genuine. AmRen threads have been over this before, but given the evidence of extensive Nordic features at that time across the Near and Middle East it is quite reasonable to suppose that Jesus, like many others then and now, had blue eyes. The Galilean was acclaimed as a descendant of David, who had fair hair. The gospel evidence implies someone of a penetrating look, striking physique and powerful voice, with a leadership charisma and attraction to women and children. That is before we consider his actual paternity as discussed by the Jewish James Tabor and the German Walter Grundmann.

  • David Ashton

    This is all metaphorical, as in Revelation.

  • David Ashton

    Er, not “Christmas”, but the Winterval of Lights with the Menorah in the Window and Jingle Bells as the carol. I nominate Ben Stiller as the genius hero for the next Tinsel Town trash.

  • David Ashton

    The question re Jesus is what was the population like in the first century (e.g. the Galatians had a Keltic ancestry and were therefore decidedly “white”).

  • David Ashton

    Typical in the first century?

  • David Ashton

    Jesus was obviously not a Khazar. The assumption however that he resembled a Mizrahi rather than (say) a Druze remains unproven. A lot can happen in 2000 years – many ancient Persians were Nordic in appearance.

    • Bossman

      There are many books out there; some recently published, which are claiming that Jesus never existed. He may be no different from Osiris and Dionysus which he replaced.

      • David Ashton

        Disagree, but sadly have no time to debate this interesting question. Not convinced by the response from Price, Carrier and others to Bart Ehrman, among others. Edwin Yamauchi is often dismissed because he is a “born again” but his usually overlooked relevant scholarshp in comparative religion is quite impressive. I do not think Jesus was the Son of God, but the synoptic gospel figure and detailed activities of Paul are unlikely to be entirely figments of imagination. I must refer you to the “many books out there”. AmRen is not the best place to discuss these complex issues.

        • Bossman

          Personally, I don’t think it is that complex. There have been many God-men with very similar life stories and they got replaced by other God-men with similar life stories.

          • David Ashton

            Depends what you mean by “very” similar life stories, but I must defer to your more extensive erudition at this moment in time and place.

  • Spartacus

    Thanks, it’s been a while since I laughed like that.

  • Yale2001

    Of course, only blacks dispute this. Ever met an Asian, Indian, or Irish that tried to magically turn him into their ethnicity?

  • Albert Anastasia

    Do you agree that Iran is part of that culture ? Middle eastern culture ? Do you agree that Jesus was middle eastern ? Well, guess what Iran means ? It means Aryan ,which means white last time I checked .. You have no idea what Jesus looked like and neither do I but, why in the world would Iran name itself Iran “Aryan” if they don’t think they are white ?

    • MBlanc46

      Iranians are part of the Indo-European linguistic group. Jews, and many other inhabitants of what we now call the Middle East, are member of the Hamito-Semitic group. Just because they all live in an area that the British military named the Middle East, doesn’t make them ethnically identical.

  • M.

    It’s not a mistranslation. “al-Ifranj” or “al-Firanja” is just Arabic for “the Franks”. By extension, it means “the Europeans”, or “Westerners” today. Just like “Romans”. Although, this term today is considered archaic, and is only used humoristically or in a historical context.
    Some imams and religious preachers still use it though to refer to Westerners.

    Speaking of Amin Maalouf (a typical Christian native of Lebanon), Jesus probably looked something like him, yes.

  • MartelC

    I am waiting for fox to dismiss her for ‘insensitive’ or ‘controversial’ comments. The left REALLY wants a victory on this one – because it will send out a clear message – the truth doesn’t matter, you will lose your job if you oppose us.

    and btw, I agree with commentators here, I sincerely doubt it was a black woman who had this idea.. this seems like an idea from her handlers – you know the ones that REALLY hate Christmas.

  • Bossman

    Thanks for all this historical information. Jesus replaced Osiris and Dionysus but their life stories and God-man status were very similar to his own story.

  • Bossman

    You’re belaboring the point. Arabs are definitely white, even with very black hair. It says somewhere in the Koran that in Heaven everyone will have black hair.

    • M.

      Look, I’m Algerian. I live in an Arab/Berber country, and it is a brown country, not a white one. Real whites of europoid type are an extreme minority here.
      You can’t call swarthy crook-nosed dark-haired wooly-haired person white. You have to be white to be white, i.e. have at least two of the three following traits:
      1) A white skin (olive doesn’t count);
      2) traces of blondism (hair or eyes);
      3) other Caucasian features (straight hair, thin nose, lips, etc).

      These two dudes for example (typical Arabs) aren’t white.

      If all Arabs were to race-mix with Europeans, the Caucasian European type as we know would be over.

      • Bossman

        They’re of the Caucasian race. They may not look like Swedes but they are still members of the white race. Your definition of white is too narrow. I’m sure most anthropologists would agree with me.

        • M.

          So you don’t consider this late immigration wave of Muslims to Europe to be any form of invasion? It’s just whitey moving to whitey?
          All right, let’s cut the bull. You know why north Africans and Middle-Easterners haven’t fared as well as the Europeans? And why we’re still third world? That’s because we haven’t innovated as much. And why haven’t we innovated as much? It’s because we have lower average IQ than that of Europeans.
          We do we average lower IQ than Europeans? That’s because we have higher negroid admixture. We also have different temper, and poorer impulse control, higher crime rates (despite religious conservatism), and endemic corruption, aka the Third World.
          Now there IS a small European-looking minority that’s (nearly) 100% white, of which I’m part. You couldn’t distinguish me from an Englishman. But it’s negligible in this sea of brown Semites.

          I’m sure you’ll tell me you’ve known some olive-skinned Arabs who are smart, have good impulse control, are overall civilized, etc. Who act white, in a nutshell. And there are. But averages are, by definition, not absolute.

          Another good rule of thumb to know if someone is of your race is to answer the question: “is this miscegenation?”
          To me, it is.
          (You can replace the guy with any other typical Arab-looking guy. Same with the girl.)

          • Anna Tree

            Exactly, miscegenation with Africans but I will add the backwardness of islam have destroyed the North Africans.

            The most expensive brides in islam are the fairer skinned/eyed/hair muslim girls. And now there is an epidemic of marriage with white/European girls. They are kind of race realists… they are appropriating European DNA.

            I second M. in his warning. If the Europeans don’t stop miscegenating soon and sadly are not harsh enough in how they deal with the mixed children (it is though damned if they do, damned if they don’t), even if we put aside the dangers of islam itself, all Europe will become like Portugal, Greece and North Africa. Personally I think it’s not only the end of Europe but a grave maybe fatal blow to the future of mankind in terms of science, medicine and art etc and eventually its survival, as settling another planet will not be possible anymore due to the decreased in quantity and quality of innovative intellectuals.

            My rule of thumb is a bit similar: the greater the difference between siblings of a family, the greater the racial/ethnic diversity of their ancestors.

          • M.

            I think Europe CAN import North Africans and Middle-Easterners and still keep the average IQ as high, provided it does it through a highly selective immigration system, i.e. by picking only the very smart and educated, preferably non-Muslim.

            However, I would still be against it, because it would lead to miscegenation and/or the replacement (at least, partial) of the white populations. It would ultimately mean the end of the Germanic phenotype as we know it, and would turn all of Europe into Southern Europe.

            As for mankind, I suspect it will survive. Capitalism has a way of selecting the brightest and most creative. So even though the white population may decrease, it will still be overrepresented in the fields of science, technology, knowledge, and many other fields. At least, in the privately-owned companies.

            But anyway, whatever happens, we should stick together, and segregate ourselves as best as we can. That way, we don’t get diluted in a sea of non-whites. That’s why I don’t see the striking cultural differences between Muslims and Europeans for example as something inherently negative.

          • Anna Tree

            What I am saying about the future of mankind is that if we need to find another planet to live on because of the pollution we did or because of the eventual cooling of the sun etc, the IQ pool of the whites because of miscegenation, won’t be able to produce enough high IQs, highly innovative/creative individuals to find solutions or to find components to solutions to those problems. It’s not so much about numbers of whites, it’s about that decreased numbers of whites will bring less people in the right of the IQ bell curve and as progress is not always about one very exceptional person, but about thousands of exceptional persons “nurturing the ground” through a multitude of innovations for some very exceptional persons to come with the extraordinary break-throughs needed.

            If the white population decreases and they are not able or not willing to protect themselves, genocide of whites will increase and capitalism and freedoms will collapse with a browning of the population. The same way that people shape a country and not the contrary, people shape a culture, shape the economic and politic systems and not the contrary.

            From poster(s) in Amren:


            People who think, justifiably, that showing the low caliber of our immigrant traffic will somehow halt the elite’s plan of transformation are missing the point. A lot of competent, high IQ immigrants would function well in their adoptive countries, and they would not only refuse to rely solely on the government for their living, but would also have strong ideas about the limits and nature of that government. Thus, people like Blair or Bush or McCain (or Soros or Adelson or Zuckerburg) wouldn’t be dissuaded by Richwine’s study (provided it wasn’t suppressed and they believed in it) about the low quality of the immigrants streaming in. From the perspective of the elite, the lower the quality the better. Richwine’s (or Murray’s) data would only confirm and renew their enthusiasm for destroying Western Civilization in the name of depreciating wages, keeping the white rabble under control with explosive Mestizo, African Americans and Muslim violence, and maintaining their power.

            I’ll make it a little simpler: they want dumb people who don’t ask
            questions, who are docile enough to not challenge the state or revolt, but just violent enough to undermine working and middle-class whites who could potentially challenge the Globalists successfully.

            All is to bring us into a one world socialist totalitarian government. Browns and blacks have little intelligence, little ambition and readily accept socialism is a great thing. We have been watching ever since the “great society” days, the American middle class being replaced by the welfare class. An entire class of people dependent on the government for their existence. Add that to the hoards of bureaucrats that facilitate the redistribution of wealth and we’re already at over 50% of the populace that is so dependent on the state they are essentially slaves.

            After they have outlived their usefulness as forces for change they will likely be exterminated or kill each others, but in the mid-term time frame you’re looking at a society where 1/3 of the people hold another 1/3 at gunpoint forcing them to work, so that another 1/3 can do nothing…. this isn’t looking good.

          • M.

            Socialism is not just a brown or black thing. A country like Sweden has been practicing it for decades now. But that could’ve made sense when they were a homogeneous nation. In a country like the U.S., this would be tantamount to slavery, indeed. Because we all know who works and produces, and who doesn’t.
            The future is not all that bleak though. There has been a resurgence of libertarianism these last years, with a streak of libertarian realists amongst it. And my guess is that it will continue to grow.

        • Anna Tree

          Bossman, all whites are Caucasians but not all Caucasians are white.

          North Africans are indeed Caucasians, but with a high mixture of Negroid directly and indirectly through Arab jihad and I second M that they are not white (no Carthagians are left). Indians are also Caucasians but they are also not white.

          In my opinion, whites are the European Caucasians (the Nordics, Alpines, (North) Mediterraneans and Slavs) and maybe indeed some North Middle Eastern Caucasians (the Levantines).

          North Mediterraneans and Levantines have more Negroid mixture. (it seems from my readings that) for comparison, but indeed depending what you are researching Y-DNA, mtDNA or specific haplotypes, more or less English and Germans have up to 1.5%, French up to 2.5% while South Italian and Ashkenaz Jews up to 4%, Sicilians up to 10%, South Portuguese and Syrians up to 15%) through miscegenation with slaves and/or muslim/Arabic occupation. The Slavs have some Mongoloid mixture, up to 1.5% in Southern and Western Slavs and up to 5% in Eastern Slavs.
          North Africans Sub-Saharan admixture can be up to 25%.

    • Kenner

      The Koran states, that in heaven, each women will receive 72 hair extensions.

  • salvagesalvage

    > Unlike Santa, the racial heritage of Jesus Christ has been debated for years

    No, not really, if there was an actual guy named Jesus he would not look European, I know you guys need to make your gods in your image but next time it’s probably a better idea to go with someone who isn’t a Jew from the Middle East.

    • Jack Burton

      Hey moron, Jews are a Caucasoid people. They’re not sub-Saharan Africans, they’re not Mongoloids.

      • salvagesalvage

        Yeah, back then they were Middle Eastern.

        But you keep begging your White Jesus (who founded America and hates everyone you hate) for favor.

        • Jack Burton

          I’m not a Christian, nor do I believe in the myths. However that doesn’t give black trolls and libtards free reign to rewrite history.

  • Luca

    She had a follow up segment and she did NOT apologize, she explained there was a touch of tongue and cheek humor involved.

    I like her a lot, she’s another Ann Coulter but with less sarcasm and more class.

    We need all the allies we can muster.

    • jane johnson

      She also takes time off to have beautiful White babies. Another plus.

      • Kenner

        Three white babies!

    • Jack Burton

      I have even more respect for her that she didn’t back down and grovel for forgiveness.

      She’s hot and she knows it. I like a woman with confidence and sex appeal.

    • Lord_Steven_Regal

      Both women, Harris and Kelly, are using the tongue-in-cheek excuse. I call BS. Both women said what they meant and are trying to lessen the criticism by pretending they weren’t being serious.

  • Jack Burton

    Nicholas of Myra was not Turkish-Greek, he was Greek. At that time in history that area was fully Greek in heritage.

    Furthermore Santa Claus is based on Germanic traditions and symbolism, the soul of Santa is Germanic.

    Megyn is not dead wrong, because the US classifies Middle Eastern people, such as Jews, as white.

    Her statements were partly in protest to the obnoxious Afrocentric Negro in saying Santa isn’t white, so she fired back that not only is Santa white, but so is Jesus! Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, you stupid Negro!

    Now, whatever the specific anthropological facts are concerning the subracial traits of the historical figure from which the Jesus myth originates, he’s certainly not sub-Saharan African, for which is the subject of the debate or rather rant from the black writer. To put it in common street parlance, he’s certainly white compared to your nappy, black ass!

  • Jack Burton

    Blacks do have a black face they can sympathize with it’s Zwarte Piet! He’s the counterpart to Santa, a despicable black devil that Santa keeps chained around the neck and commands to do his bidding.

    Megyn should have brought that up and really give the libtrolls something to fume about.

  • Funruffian

    At first I was annoyed with this woman, but I think she is very good looking and serves as a sexy addition as a regular fixture on FNC. She’s pretty smart, well spoken and professional. Fox News’ women are all good looking women as opposed to the MSNBC hags. Dana Perino, Megyn Kelly and Monica Crowley are three women who I don’t mind listening to and looking at.

    • “Fox News’ women are all good looking women …”

      And many of them are former attorneys.

      I love smart good looking women and have been joined at the lip with one since age 16. (We’re 70 now.)

      • Funruffian

        Fox News is high brow compared to the idiotic dialogue and format of MSNBC and CNN.

        • Fox is very much in the entertainment business.

          My wife is an avid Fox viewer, with me as a captive audience. I rarely watch Fox by choice any more. That said, it’s not lost on me that as a network they are very gingerly dipping their toes into the waters of race realism, especially Bill O’Reilly.

          Today, like most people on this site (I suspect), I rely on the internet for general news and for in-depth coverage of issues that interest or concern me.

  • WR_the_realist

    It’s not just that blacks try to remake a mythical person like Santa Claus black. They try to make Beethoven black, and Shakespeare black, and so forth. As for Jesus, he was a middle eastern Jew. So he probably looked a lot like contemporary Arabs. He didn’t look like a Swede, but looked even less like a negro.

  • SFLBIB

    Mickey Mouse is black. What are we ever going to do?

    • Evette Coutier

      Let’s be politically correct. Elmer Fudd is now black.

      • itdoesnotmatter

        Elmer Fudd is the ultimate un-pc cartoon character.
        He has a pronounced stammer, and is noticeably slow mentally. Why aren’t the anti-stammer or mentally [insert current pc word for retardation] defamation leagues taking that one on? sarc/

      • SFLBIB

        The following government “MEMORANDUM TO ALL OFFICE MANAGERS AND PERSONNEL” was routed around as a joke in the early 1960s. It is not so far-fetched any more.

        Subject: Decorating Offices for Christmas

        We have been informed by the Office of Health, Education, and Welfare that a White Christmas would be in violation of Title II of the Civil Rights act of 1964, as amended. Therefore, the following steps are to be
        taken to insure that we comply with the Act during the Christmas Season in the offices:

        a.
        All Christmas trees must have at least 23.4% colored
        bulbs and they must be placed throughout the tree and not segregated in the back of the tree.

        b. Christmas presents cannot be wrapped in white paper. However, interim approval can be given if colored ribbon is used to tie them.

        c. If a manger scene is used, 20% of the angels and one out of the Three Kings must be of a minority race.

        d. If Christmas music is played, “We Shall Overcome” must be given equal time. Under no circumstances is “I’m Dreaming of a White Christmas” to be played. If it snows, we are all in trouble.

        e. Care should be taken in party planning. For example:

        1) Use Pink champagne instead of white.

        2) Turkey may be served, but only if the white and dark meat are on the same platter. There will be no separate but equal platters permitted.

        3) Use chocolate royale ice cream instead of vanilla.

        4) Both chocolate and white milk must be served. There will be no freedom of choice plan. Milk must be served without regard to color.

        A team from HEW will visit us on December 24th to determine our compliance with the Act. With everyone’s co-operation, well can get through this season.

    • Ear, ear!

  • Paleoconn

    Santa Claus is a Turk. At least according to the people who have never read a history book to learn that Turks didn’t appear in Asia Minor til about 7-8 centuries after St. Nicholas’ time.

    • Kenner

      Fake factoid courtesy of Jon Liebowitz Stewart.

  • GeorgeRA

    It’s okay for Whites to be Santa Claus to blacks all year long except when Whites are playing Santa Claus to Whites on Christmas Day. Actually Whites play Santa Claus to everybody, everyday.

  • MBlanc46

    Leaving us alone is the part that they don’t do very well.

  • MBlanc46

    Who was there?

  • stewball

    Santa should be an Eskimo.

  • stewball

    Obviously Santa is Jewish. It’s obvious. He comes round with his gifties and reindeer, slides down the chimneys with presents. Eats all the mince pies and milk left for him, it’s no wonder he’s got a big tummy, and all this is to celebrate the birth of a little Jewish child.

    • Evette Coutier

      No way. He gives away toys. Jews are too cheap to do that.

  • Talltrees

    Some Bible quotes:

    Thou art fairer than the children of men. Psalm 45

    Lamentations 4:7 describes those in good health among the people of the time as “brighter than snow and whiter than milk…more ruddy in body than rubies.” The dictionary defines “ruddy” as “red; reddish; of the color of healthy skin in white-skinned peoples”

    King David was also described as “ruddy and of a fair countenance” (1 Samuel 17:42, KJV). This is not the red of Native Americans but of Caucasian peoples with “ruby-red cheeks.”

    1 Samuel 16:12 describes David, the ancestor of Jesus, as having “fair countenance”

    A study at Duke University determined that Jesus’ skin would have been olive-colored and looked like a typical Galilean Semite.

  • “… being White, which requires an origin in Europe …”

    Who put you in charge of that definition? Are you sure that you don’t mean “Nordic” or “Germanic” when you say “white”?

  • …..” And while he was based on St. Nicholas, a white man…….” Case closed. Next!

    • Whilst we are at it, I think any film depictions of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King ought to be white actors or Asian actors, or that Rosa should be ‘pearly white’ and all the folks on the bus should be black and Asian.

      We know the story is ‘based’ on blacks, but surely we can ignore these facts and have our own interpretation that is more inclusive?

      As for Jesus, which to many people is also a fictional character in terms of the religious claims being made, sure he may well have been kind of Iranian/Syrian looking or whatever – but anybody quoting a BBC documentary on these matters is obviously two sandwiches short of a picnic if they expect it to be unbiased on a topic involving race and ‘whiteness’.

      • Google “Youtube ‘President Pryor'” for black comedian Richard Pryor’s take on this stuff 40 years ago. At the time the premise of this skit was seen as completely absurd but now it seems remarkably prescient.

  • Lord_Steven_Regal

    What’s so sad is that everywhere I turn some media outlet is labeling Kelly a racist for simply statin

  • Lord_Steven_Regal

    What’s even more aggravating in Kelly being attacked while Harris is given a free pass is that Harris’ position was so much more extreme. Kelly never said that black or Asian men can’t play Santa at malls, she merely said that the actual Santa tale involves a white man. Harris, on the other hand, said any depiction of Santa as a white man should be done away with.

  • David Ashton

    Marx the Father, Che the Son and Mandela the Unholy Ghost.

    • Max Krakah

      correction, “Mandella the unholy SPOOK”

  • Evette Coutier

    Why can’t they just celebrate their own holiday and leave ours alone? I don’t go around telling Asians, Jews, blacks, Hispanics, or Arabs how to celebrate their religious and cultural festivities. Blacks have so much white envy it is pitiful.

    • “Why can’t they just celebrate their own holiday and leave ours alone?”

      Because we’re racists and deserve to be punished.

      • Evette Coutier

        Punish us. Don’t invite us.

    • King of My Castle

      Many Asians, blacks, and Hispanics celebrate Christmas.

      • Garrett Brown

        According to what statistics?

        • King of My Castle

          According to my eyes, which see non-whites celebrating Christmas.

          • Garrett Brown

            So nothing to back up your statements, which was kind of predictable. Hardly any Asians or blacks celebrate Christmas.

          • King of My Castle

            I didn’t write “all”; I wrote “many”, and many do. Many in raw numbers, not necessarily in percentage of the population. If 100 blacks and/or Asians around the world celebrated Christmas, I’d consider that many. And your nastiness was quite predictable, too.

      • Evette Coutier

        That’s fine so long as they don’t try to force everyone else to change Christmas.

  • King of My Castle

    St. Nicholas was a Greek; Jesus is a Middle-Eastern Jew. I wouldn’t call either of them white.

    • Max Krakah

      Greeks are white. The middle Eastern jews of that time were also most likely white.

      • King of My Castle

        Greeks don’t look white to me.

        As for your second claim, I’d like to see some evidence. I’m willing to believe what you say, but I need some evidence first.

        • Max Krakah

          who cares what your definition of white is, greeks are white

          • King of My Castle

            Who cares if you don’t know how to use a question mark? Who cares if you don’t know what a comma splice is?

  • JJCULLEN

    Kelly is 100% correct, Jesus & Santa are as White as Christmas, as in dreaming of a

  • Kenner

    On her Friday show, the goddess spoke thusly: it’s the state of our society that some choose to do ‘knee jerk race baiting’.

  • Ella

    Blacks can have their own Swahili-dressed Santa Clause during Kwanzaa Holiday. So, where is the problem?

  • Pro_Whitey

    I say there is no need to presume that Jesus looked like everyone else in his area, or that his looks are determined by his place of birth or even his mother. To me either Jesus is the “son” of God, or actually the manifestation of God on Earth, in which case his birth was of miraculous origin, and he could have looked however God wanted him to look, or he was one kuh-razy nutjob who claimed to be the son of God, in which case it does not matter what he looked like, because we should treat his rants like that of the psychotic pedophile Muhammad.
    On a somewhat unrelated topic, an interesting New Testament passage in mass a few weeks ago in Mass. While in the temple in Jerusalem, the apostles and other followers are admiring the structure and decorations of the temple, including jewels, and Jesus tells them that there will come a day when not one stone will be upon another that has not been thrown down. Within about 50 years of his crucifixion, the Romans did just that.

  • Steve33

    Carl Reiner, Don Rickles, Buddy Hackett and Jerry Lewis are Jews and they look white to me.

  • Evidence that the Hebrews were White?

  • Max Krakah

    There are only three races of mankind, black white and mongoloid.

  • emiledurk16

    Who thought Jesus and Santa weren’t white?

    Where’s the controversy?

    There’s no controversy.

  • Kenner

    Ha!— O’Reilly s*-canned the ‘Santa’ thread, and added at the end of his show, ‘Megan is next, and she owes me Big–!’
    The White Goddess opens her show with a power gaze and power voice projection…ramped up. Two seconds, and she ‘said’ it all….
    —Still waiting for that apology, Amrenners??

  • David Ashton

    Why don’t they make Othello white and Iago black (and Desdemona a transgender Chinese dwarf) such is their “logic”?

  • David Ashton

    The historical and personal issue here is tricky for theologians, like questions of free will and of natural evil.

    As regards my point, see e.g. Hyam Maccoby, “Judas Iscariot and the Myth of Jewish Evil” (1992) just for STARTERS!

    However, I am a radical critic of NT documents (though not a Christmyth advocate like some other posters), and think that this “surname” referred originally not to the Judean town of Kerioth (making Judas an outsider among Galileans), nor to a murder weapon, but to an Aramaic word for (company) purse-keeper.

  • Anna Tree

    She should stand her ground. She didn’t say anything racist or outrageous unless being white is now racist and outrageous, but that’s the point, isn’t it…

    Jesus and Santa Claus are white because they were invented by whites. Blacks should go invent and create their own idols and culture. If they can…

    I am trying to find a character invented by blacks and claim he was white for racial peace and equality, please help!!!
    But let’s take Mandela or the reverend King and claim a la Aisha Harris that it is time they serve all of us and make them penguins too: I am pretty sure, blacks would riot!
    On a second thought, both did a lot of bad things, WE wouldn’t make them saint as we have so many better whites to be proud of…

  • ben no

    Interestingly, I receive a Christmas card the other day through the mail and it came with black-faced Santa on it, and I was like, huh? What the f**k is this? I know it’s really harmless, but still, It gross me out. Not the Santa I wanted to see on my desk.