Even When Test Scores Go Up, Some Cognitive Abilities Don’t

Anne Trafton, MIT News, December 11, 2013

To evaluate school quality, states require students to take standardized tests; in many cases, passing those tests is necessary to receive a high-school diploma. These high-stakes tests have also been shown to predict students’ future educational attainment and adult employment and income.

Such tests are designed to measure the knowledge and skills that students have acquired in school—what psychologists call “crystallized intelligence.” However, schools whose students have the highest gains on test scores do not produce similar gains in “fluid intelligence”—the ability to analyze abstract problems and think logically—according to a new study from MIT neuroscientists working with education researchers at Harvard University and Brown University.

In a study of nearly 1,400 eighth-graders in the Boston public school system, the researchers found that some schools have successfully raised their students’ scores on the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment System (MCAS). However, those schools had almost no effect on students’ performance on tests of fluid intelligence skills, such as working memory capacity, speed of information processing, and ability to solve abstract problems.

“Our original question was this: If you have a school that’s effectively helping kids from lower socioeconomic environments by moving up their scores and improving their chances to go to college, then are those changes accompanied by gains in additional cognitive skills?” says John Gabrieli, the Grover M. Hermann Professor of Health Sciences and Technology, professor of brain and cognitive sciences, and senior author of a forthcoming Psychological Science paper describing the findings.

Instead, the researchers found that educational practices designed to raise knowledge and boost test scores do not improve fluid intelligence. “It doesn’t seem like you get these skills for free in the way that you might hope, just by doing a lot of studying and being a good student,” says Gabrieli, who is also a member of MIT’s McGovern Institute for Brain Research.

Measuring cognition

This study grew out of a larger effort to find measures beyond standardized tests that can predict long-term success for students. “As we started that study, it struck us that there’s been surprisingly little evaluation of different kinds of cognitive abilities and how they relate to educational outcomes,” Gabrieli says.

The data for the Psychological Science study came from students attending traditional, charter, and exam schools in Boston. Some of those schools have had great success improving their students’ MCAS scores—a boost that studies have found also translates to better performance on the SAT and Advanced Placement tests.

The researchers calculated how much of the variation in MCAS scores was due to the school that students attended. For MCAS scores in English, schools accounted for 24 percent of the variation, and they accounted for 34 percent of the math MCAS variation. However, the schools accounted for very little of the variation in fluid cognitive skills—less than 3 percent for all three skills combined.

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Even stronger evidence came from a comparison of about 200 students who had entered a lottery for admittance to a handful of Boston’s oversubscribed charter schools, many of which achieve strong improvement in MCAS scores. The researchers found that students who were randomly selected to attend high-performing charter schools did significantly better on the math MCAS than those who were not chosen, but there was no corresponding increase in fluid intelligence scores.

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Gabrieli notes that the study should not be interpreted as critical of schools that are improving their students’ MCAS scores. “It’s valuable to push up the crystallized abilities, because if you can do more math, if you can read a paragraph and answer comprehension questions, all those things are positive,” he says.

He hopes that the findings will encourage educational policymakers to consider adding practices that enhance cognitive skills. Although many studies have shown that students’ fluid cognitive skills predict their academic performance, such skills are seldom explicitly taught.

“Schools can improve crystallized abilities, and now it might be a priority to see if there are some methods for enhancing the fluid ones as well,” Gabrieli says.

Some studies have found that educational programs that focus on improving memory, attention, executive function, and inductive reasoning can boost fluid intelligence, but there is still much disagreement over what programs are consistently effective.

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  • Possible explanations:

    1. The MCAS is getting regressively easier by the year

    2. The MCAS is not a g-loaded test

    3. Teachers are using rote to teach to the test to goose up scores

    4. Cheating, a la Atlanta Public Schools

    • Oil Can Harry

      Good summary. My own feeling is that “teaching-to-the-test” is mostly the reason for the bogus rise in minority test scores but of course cheating is also a factor.

      • Young Werther

        teaching to the test is what is done for mid-learners…cheating is a must if the school is all or mostly black…such a tragedy

    • So CAL Snowman

      5. The curriculum – This would explain why abstract thought and logic are non-existent. You can improve science and math scores through repetition and rote memorization (Asian specialty), but when all other curriculum is basically “How To Be A Good 21st Century Marxist” we should not be surprised by the lack of other cognitive abilities. Being exposed to non-Revisionist history and White English and European authors of antiquity would go a long way in improving the quality of our students other cognitive abilities.

      • BonusGift

        Bingo.

      • NeanderthalDNA

        6. LIMITS

        The never-ending story continues. IF we just spent enough money…figgered out the magical glitter and unicorns teaching methodology, give parents choice, understood the amazing secrets of our blank-slate always-improvable totally equal brains…

        No. NO no no no no. For over half a century now there has been no change in outcomes. Perhaps we as a population (Whites, E. Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, Whatevas), all lumped together as if we are one people, have reached our natural limit…and no pie-in-the-sky cutesy-homily style ideology or methodology can change this.

        This “crystallized” verses “fluid” intelligence dealio is nothing but stale old common sense jargonized by social “science” (and heartily appropriated by social science’s slow stepchild, “ejucayshun”) in order to obfuscate us away from ugly ideologically unacceptable no-duh reality.

        Most people have no idea how parasitically moribund and mandarin-like our educational system has become.

    • Anon

      The MCAS is not, in any way, a measure of anything having to do with the student, least of all their intelligence. It’s an evaluation of teaching methods. An attempt to measure their effectiveness. It is a response to the no child left behind act which basically blame (and punished) teachers for the unchangeable fact that most blacks are mentally defective. Rather than admit the population was ineducable, the claim was made that teachers were not doing their job.

      Since such a thing is easily observable, making the fact that blacks are almost all mental defectives, OBVIOUS, it has been insisted that results in the student be measured rather than an attempt be made to observe what the teachers are doing.

      Since everyone involved is so massively full of BS, just like is done with, ummm, grading, anything and everything is done to deny the obvious.

      What is “the obvious”? Well, it’s a little hard to tell anything about Tyrone, when Tyrone can’t even read the test, wads it up into a little ball of paper and tosses it at the teachers head.

      Is that a g-loaded test?

      Maybe.

      • Max Krakah

        and when Tyrone is asked to satay after class because he didn’t et the lesson, then often a Phillip Chism occurs

    • Paleoconn

      Absolutely, although I would put cheating and massive test prepping vs actual teaching #1 and 2, respectively.

  • Ragehol .

    General intelligence is almost entirely genetic. All the trillions spent on “education” and the gap persists. You can’t solve in a century what was created over millenia.

    Simple biology, really.

    • hkq999

      Learning is still important. A child could be genetically very intelligent but if her never learns to read he’ll get nowhere.

  • Anon

    In another life I was a Clinical Psychologist with a specialty in neuro-diagnostic testing. This article is basically drivel. None of the terms used are defined or used, in any way like they are using here and the author obviously has no concept of the biology involved in these issues vs the psychology. They keep switching back and forth from terms that have specific meanings and are well defined and mapped out in brain research and applies them to vague, controversial, often contradictory trait based theories in psychology.

    Bluntly put….all study on the matter shows the exact same thing…education cannot effect intelligence. No matter how much a person studies, they absolutely cannot make themselves smarter. In fact, only one environmental factor effects intelligence in any way and that is nutrition….and that, only negatively. Poor nutrition in early childhood (also, eating lead paint and the like) will make a child stupid. Good nutrition will not make them any smarter than they would have been with mediocre nutrition. It’s not even a genetic issue. It’s racial. Whites have normal intelligence (defined arbitrarily, but precisely here by me to mean the ability to live in and engage a first world society and civilization).

    Black people do not. Simple as that.

    • Max Krakah

      Cue the “hallelujah Chorus”!

    • “It’s not even a genetic issue. It’s racial.”

      Surely you misspoke. Races are by definition genetically determined, yes?

    • hkq999

      There’s a lot of variation between whites as well though. It would be silly to say all white people are born with, “normal intelligence”. Clearly some white children are smarter than others. I also doubt that environment has such a small effect on intelligence when it’s clear that a child won’t be able to read or understand arithmetic unless you teach them.

  • Strike_Team

    Since whites seem to be the best at divergent thinking, being able to take seemingly unrelated items and put them together, creativity, I would bet that those in charge noticed and then went on to make sure that school curricula in US public schools do not have too many areas in which those abilities can be exercised. People have varying levels of these most abstract types of ability, but with lack of use, the abilities cannot be sharpened, they will atrophy. You can bet our enemies noted white strong points a long time ago and have arranged things to look legit, but have several decks stacked against us in different ways. All this while the majority of our masters send their own children to schools that have more “rounded” systems. They also repeatedly use experts, books, the media to tell whites not to push their children academically or otherwise, while they themselves push their children in cognitive areas almost from the second they shoot from the mother’s womb.

    • BonusGift

      Good point, and how right you are. Related to your point, I do some teaching at the university level and often I will design tests to focus on critical thinking within the subject area I am testing (i.e., depending on the subject). I am astounded in several ways, none of them good, at what I have seen over a relatively short time (roughly one decade). Namely, what I would consider to be the most important mental or cognitive ‘skill’ has almost disappeared. It almost makes me want to cry and I fear for the future not just because other groups are known to lack this type of ability but more importantly that the one that was known for it has been largely washed free of the ability to logically work through problems (e.g., real world problems) that we must be able to work out if we are to survive, let alone progress.

      • Strike_Team

        Scary. And it was all by design. Our enemies really did sit down and think this out.

        • BonusGift

          It is my observation that the tribal lead mainstream media (i.e., more so than even the tribal lead cultural Marxist teaching establishment as it exists today) may be more the leader of things like that and mostly leading from simple questions like the following: What is it that our favored pets of the moment do at a level that would put them in a good light? Answer: Certain sports (e.g., basketball) and most entertainment areas (e.g., singing). In short, it seems that they haven’t so much planned it as it is a natural outgrowth of promoting one thing at the expense of all other things like creative thought (which is virtually non-existent in their favored pets). Time is really a zero sum game; that is, by emphasizing one thing you generally subtract, by definition, from all others. Therefore, for example, in sports you see an emphasis in certain sports at the expense of all others, and even when there is clear saturation and a backlash against it (e.g., ratings and revenues plunge due to thuggish behavior, etc.); while in education you see this ratcheting up of hours spent in school and homework, but an overall decrease in skills valued in society because the important thing to teach isn’t true knowledge or thinking skills but to indoctrinate, and heaven forbid we stumble on the truth about the tribe or the tribe’s pets.

      • Sick of it

        What’s really sad is seeing the lack of creativity in junior high kids these days. At their age, their little heads should be full of all kinds of ideas about how things work today, in the past, or how they should work in the future. Not so much.

        • BonusGift

          Yes, they seem almost to have had much of their natural creativity beaten out of them before they even begin.

    • marula

      The fundamental attribute which allow Caucasians to succeed allows them to recognize the efforts of the Left and as just another obstacle to overcome.
      As for the “rise of the east”, they are nothing more than a parasitic organism that is doomed to wilt and dissipate in the cold light of reality, without the Education, Technologies, and wealth-generating ability of the Western host.

    • Brian

      One example that comes to mind is that orientals make excellent classical musicians, playing Western symphonic and chamber music with excellence. But how many oriental composers are there? The same applies to rock bands, jazz…to the extent that discipline and technique matter they do well. To the extent that creativity and improvisation matter, they do poorly. Blacks are the opposite. Whites are in the middle somewhere.

      • ben no

        No, you jerk! Whites are way at the top! We excel both in the
        mastery of technical proficiency as well as creating it, and inventing the instruments to play – be it the wooden violin or the electric guitar, we still rule! It is a mere reflection of OUR greater intelligence, not theirs, so stop ignoring the most rational way estimate human intelligence with the EVIDENCE and DEMONSTRATION itself. Quantity and frequency of virtuoso musicians is irrelevant and always was, but rather the quality and individualism of the musician and their pioneering spirit is what counts and always did, you damn fool!

        With few exceptions, guitar virtuoso are uniformly white/European, and all the pioneers are white, especially of shred guitar and neo-classical. This is because a guitar virtuoso – who is recording artist – has to master his own written music, his own choice of notes, his own arrangement of notes, and not the music written by others. So the complexity of the music written is part of the virtuosity of each musician.

        All the East Asian virtuoso’s of classical music are required
        to do is essentially memorize and play to perfection the great classical European pieces, and that’s it, bam! They’re a bunch of virtuoso’s! Well, I don’t think so. If they had the difficult and challenging task of having to master their own written pieces before reaching virtuoso’s level, very few would actually make the mark since the creativity would be largely lacking, let me tell you!

        They’re not on par with us, they’re just not.

        • Brian

          Quantity and frequency of virtuoso musicians is irrelevant and always was, but rather the quality and individualism of the musician and their pioneering spirit is what counts and always did, you damn fool!
          ===
          I used to be a semi-pro guitarist so I don’t think I need you to tell me what makes for great musicianship. Becoming a virtuosic player, regardless of compositional skill or individual style, requires a good deal of discipline and intellect. If you don’t believe it, try playing an instrument for 25 years and get back to me.

          • ben no

            Read my comment again – I clearly stated that you need both skill and creativity. READ PROPERLY.

        • hkq999

          No you jerk? Why so upset?

          • ben no

            It is a bit late to be asking me now…

  • Max Krakah

    I’ve said this before. Education does not make a person smart. Being smart does. A memory base of facts and figures does not improve a persons ability to quickly grasp and understand things. One can spend 40 years working on a graduate thesis and get a PHD, that doesn’t mean the person is smart.

    • Strike_Team

      Right. But abilities can be dulled through lack of use. The public schools in the US, while being set up to reward rote memorization for the most part, are so dumbed down that critical thinking abilities need not be used for the most part. And the thinking abilities that are strongest in whites are those that are being ignored. This is no accident.

      • Max Krakah

        I think that abilities are not dulled by lack of use, I think that bright children in public schools are purposely slowed down, and often punished for superior achievement, and this sets in an state of confusion , hopelessness and defeatism. If they are never allowed to finish something, if they are never rewarded for achieving something, if they are actually punished when they do, if they see others coddled for being stupid, the bright ones often become apathetic.

      • Andy

        The schools adore “critical thinking skills”. Their problem is they think they can be taught, so they have kids spend hours filling out critical thinking worksheets that are dull and unproductive instead of teaching actual information about the world, which might give smart kids the evidence to come to conclusions they don’t like.

    • “Education does not make a person smart.”

      Not only that, education can’t happen without a basic level of smartness and willingness to work. Group racial IQ scores are excellent predictors of the ability to learn.

      • Max Krakah

        History is full of examples of people who educated themselves. The magic is in the believing, if a bright person does not allow his spirit to be defeated, then he will persevere and rise to the natural level of his abilities. The magic though, only allows one to achieve to the level of his abilities. The lie that is spouted to so many children is that they can “be whatever they want to be”. The truth is that no, they can’t “be whatever they want to be”. In reality what people want to be is almost always determined by what their strengths are, unless they are brainwashed and confused. Most women actually really want to be mothers, and many find this out when they have their first child.

        • “… people who educated themselves.”

          I was a computer software pioneer beginning in 1963 while in college, and I have the equivalent of a master’s degree in chemistry, but by ten years after NYU I realized that I didn’t know anything that mattered to me personally other than the history of art. So …

          I set out on a campaign of reading non-fiction library books, probably about 10,000 in all over a 20-year period. I turned myself into a lay expert on a variety of subjects that I was interested in.

          Sometimes these were in-depth readings in subjects that others consider important (economics, probably 200 books before I could read the Wall Street Journal cover to cover, and 500 before I had learned everything I wanted to learn.). Mostly they were subjects of interest to few other people — like naval gunnery, probably another 200 books. Or NTSB and foreign government aviation accident reports — I’ve read hundreds of them. Or the battles of Waterloo, and Gettysburg, and Iwo Jima.

          I’m still reading, still learning. With the rise of the internet I haven’t been to a public library in … um-m-m-m … 15 years, I suppose.

          Am I a better person for all this self-education? Probably not but I enjoy possessing the knowledge. Has this self-won knowledge made me successful? No, but it has taught me how to think and above all how to learn.

    • Andy

      “A memory base of facts and figures does not improve a persons ability to quickly grasp and understand things.”

      It actually does, because people learn new information better when they already know a lot about the subject. Having low-IQ people learn a great deal of information (instead of decrying information-learning as “racist” or “elitist”) is one of the few things we could do to improve their “intelligence”. This will obviously have no effect on genetics, and will not improving reasoning very much, but as far as acquiring new information goes background knowledge is very useful.

      • Max Krakah

        IT actually doesn’t. People who have slow minds can not process information quickly and cannot recall information quickly. Slow people often lose focus before they recall what they need to in order to process the new information. When it comes to blacks, for most of them the process is so slow that they are incapable of learning.

        • Andy

          If you have a large store of information, it decreases the strain on your working memory. E.D. Hirsch wrote a very interesting book about how this works.

        • hkq999

          I think it’s pretty obvious that good education in childhood while the brain is still extremely meltable can at least somewhat improve the ability to grasp and understand things.

    • hkq999

      It depends what you mean by smart. I think there is a distinction between smart and intelligent. Education can teach you how the world works which can make you smart, but it won’t necessarily make you intelligent.

  • bigone4u

    When I was a college professor I created what I called the Zero Failure Project in my college level economics classes. The university’s president, an extremely dumb, nearly illiterate Mexican affirmative action hire (IQ = 90?) had recruited huge numbers of Mexican students from the left side of the Bell Curve. He had also fired my only black colleague for giving too many bad grades.

    My grades were good, but my standards were high because I applied learning theory and research into IQ into making sure that the failure rate was pushed down close to zero. Thus, I believe, contrary to what others believe, that both cystalized and fluid intelligence can be raised. Students learned economics and to some extent learned how to think abstractly. What I could not do was help the (literal) morons that the president recruited to play on the school’s athletic teams.

    My experience, which may not prove out, is that fluid intelligence can be improved, but up to limits. I don’t think I turned anyone into a genius, but if I had my choice I would have worked on the president’s IQ. What a dummy that one was and still is.

    • Max Krakah

      no, sorry, fluid intelligence is fixed. You just fooled yourself.

      • bigone4u

        I have to go with my experience with hundreds of students and my own gut feeling. I don’t think it’s fixed, but it’s not perfectly fluid either. I suspect further research by neuroscientists will show that certain types of learning exercises rewire the brain and can raise IQ by 5 or 10 points, but no more than that. For now, that’s my opinion and I’m sticking with it, but I’ll keep reading the research and still what it shows.

    • Anna Tree

      About your “certain types of learning exercises rewire the brain and can raise IQ by 5 or 10 points”, I read that indeed learning can raise the IQ by 5 to 10 points, in tests done comparing identical twins adopted in different families etc, but the raise was retained only as long as the studying was happening. As soon as the child stopped studying, his IQ was returning to the IQ he had before he started those educational exercises, that is regressing to the mean. So it seems to me yes it raised the IQ but not by rewiring the brain and such. The gain and the brain changed is momentary. Also this technique will also raise the IQ of the other children in the classroom who initially has a higher IQ, therefore it is not closing the gap.

      • hkq999

        Yes, but it’s still increasing the overall intelligence in the population.

  • M.

    “However, those schools had almost no effect on students’ performance on
    tests of fluid intelligence skills, such as working memory capacity,
    speed of information processing, and ability to solve abstract problems.”

    That’s because fluid intelligence is mostly genetic.

  • JohnEngelman

    Intelligence is the most important single factor in achieving good outcomes in life. It is primarily determined by genes. Whites and Orientals tend to have more of it than blacks and Hispanics. It is often dangerous to state that publicly. Nevertheless, nearly everyone knows it is true.

    • Hubbub

      One big problem is that “…nearly everyone…” is not making public policy.

      • “One big problem is that “…nearly everyone…” is not making public policy.”

        On the contrary. If you work in government at some level, or if you’re receiving disability payments, and you then vote for DemoPublican politicians, you are making policy albeit indirectly.

    • ben no

      “Intelligence is the most important single factor in achieving good outcomes in life. It is primarily determined by genes. Whites and Orientals tend to have more of it than blacks and Hispanics. It is often dangerous to state that publicly. Nevertheless, nearly everyone knows it is true.”

      Actually, I don’t want sound like I’m sticking up for blacks here, but a successful and professional sports career is a very good, achieving, and wealthy outcome in life, and it requires little intelligence and can even make you famous and beloved to an extent. So that is one example of where you are clearly wrong.

      • JohnEngelman

        There are only a few positions in professional sports. Most careers only last a few years. When they over most professional athletes are destitute. The most intelligent people in the world earn more than the best athletes. They earn it longer.

  • Spartacus

    Except for driving cars, that is…

    • JohnEngelman

      Do Orientals have higher rates of traffic violations and automobile accidents than whites? Can you document that?

      • Spartacus

        I don’t think there are such statistics, but I see videos on youtube all the time of how bad drivers they are.

        • WR_the_realist

          Well, youtube videos are hardly the best way of obtaining legitimate statistical results.

          • Spartacus

            I know. But that doesn’t mean they’re not relevant .

      • CoweringCoward

        I sure know many Thais riding little 125cc 2 cycle engine bikes die every year. These things are like swarms of gnats in traffic, their riders to the last playing kamikaze screaming demons around trucks and cars. Also my wife managed to crash my little s10 within a couple weeks of being stateside.
        Yes Asians are worse drivers. In “new China town” here in Houston, we joke about it being more dangerous around Asian drivers, but at least they have the decency to hit you with a Mercedes!

  • Young Werther

    ha ha…when I taught school test scores improved because teachers and especially assistants were non-verbally required to alter test scores if they wanted to keep their jobs if they did not have tenure and to avoid being targeted for retribution by the system if they did…

  • Funruffian

    This constant mantra of placing Asians, as a whole, on pedestals of praise and achievement is becoming ad nauseam. It is a slap in the face for the upper crust intelligent Whites. It annoys and angers me to a degree, because it is a very vague description of people as a whole. You cannot just say ‘Asian’ to accurately evaluate them as a whole. You need to specify such as Northeast Asians, Southeast Asians, etc.

    • hkq999

      Who can tell them apart?

  • John K

    Grade scores can be altered to pass the imbeciles, namely blacks and illegal aliens. Also, blacks get into college for free via minority grants and scholarships so they can play sports. The only two reasons blacks go to college is to play football and rape white girls.

    • Blanket statements like yours are not helpful. Do you really think casual visitors to this site are going to be swayed by them?

  • “Blacks, by and large, fail at any abstract thinking, find it impossible
    to grasp a future time consequence, and must always think in simple
    terms.”

    Bingo.

  • I found two books by that title, one by Brand and another by Jensen. I’ve downloaded them both.

  • “… meaning blacks would STILL be below all other races at about the same difference.”

    Yes, but if the baseline were at or above the level required to sustain western civilization the argument would at least be about the rate of economic growth rather than how places like East St. Louis happen.

    • Puggg

      How do places like East St. Louis happen?

      My father’s father was born and raised there while white people could live there decently. And my father has a saying which will answer your question:

      “East St. Louis is full of the kind of people too dumb and lazy to leave a place like East St. Louis.”

      • CoweringCoward

        I like that one. Like going to court and having your fate decided by 12 folks too dumb to get out of jury duty.

      • CoweringCoward

        You should watch the “Pruet Igo” something or another. It was kinda a dark comedy. Blacks were talking about when they 1st moved into this gleaming new housing complex, how it was heaven. Then it just left…

  • Max Krakah

    a STATIC society, a society that does not progress, does not invent new things, does not develop new ideas etc. A society of TAME, submissive people, who seem genetically programmed to accept authoritarian ordered societies. A society where people will accepts living conditions where people are packed in so tight that personal living space in Hong Kong averages to the size of a small American bathroom. Yes, a society that resembles a bee colony. There is something to be said for peace and order, but there is also such a thing as taking it too far. What is the purpose of existing in such a world?

    • JohnEngelman

      Look out your window. The West is going down. The East is rising.

      • Max Krakah

        I see snow outside my window. Perhaps you are reading tea leaves in a cup or something.

        • CoweringCoward

          “IT” really does all come down to biology, doesn’t it?

          • Max Krakah

            I think so

        • BonusGift

          Bingo; and a good summary. The central natures of the respective peoples hasn’t changed and there is a fundamental genetic reason why it is so.

          • hkq999

            I don’t know, Europeans had a long time of malaise as well if I’m not mistaken.

      • newscomments70

        The West will be fine when it cuts off the dead weight. The average income in China is $6091. 128 million people there make less than $1.28 USD per day. Outside of a few showcase cities, China consists of shanty towns covered in trash and sewage.

        Here is an expert from an Amren article, written by Larry Murdock. If you recall, he is a US black man living in China as an expat: “Most Chinese higher education is substandard. This is why so many Chinese students who have the means study abroad. Last year 236,000 Chinese were studying in the United States. …. The number of Chinese who actually know medicine and can teach it in English is bound to be tiny. Half of all Chinese doctors don’t even have a bachelor’s degree.”

        In Mexico, the average income is $12,732 per year… about twice that of China. If China is rising at such an impressive rate, they still have to catch up with Mexico.

      • CoweringCoward

        I have been married to a Thai for a decade and even I down voted that one.

      • Andy

        God help us, if that is our future. There are many nice things about northeast Asians, but I would much prefer to have whites as world leaders.

        • Max Krakah

          what, you don’t want to live under “Ming the Merciless”?

  • Brian

    Instead, the researchers found that educational practices designed to
    raise knowledge and boost test scores do not improve fluid intelligence.
    “It doesn’t seem like you get these skills for free in the way that you
    might hope, just by doing a lot of studying and being a good student,”
    says Gabrieli, who is also a member of MIT’s McGovern Institute for
    Brain Research.
    ===
    How is this not blindingly obvious? Pouring more water into the bucket does not increase the capacity of the bucket.

    “Schools can improve crystallized abilities, and now it might be a
    priority to see if there are some methods for enhancing the fluid ones
    as well,” Gabrieli says.
    ===
    There is one. It’s called eugenics. The rest is just pissing in the wind.

  • Brian

    Oriental IQ is higher than white, but all the advantage occurs on the math/visuo-spatial component. There is no advantage on the verbal side, and there may be a small disadvantage there. Oriental IQ also may have a smaller standard deviation…higher average, but smaller ‘genius fraction’. If your average factory worker or shopkeeper is a bit brighter, that helps, but not if it comes at the expense of reducing Edisons/century.

    • BonusGift

      Because of the narrower distribution of IQs, by definition, they have fewer of what we would call geniuses. In addition, there is no historical reason to think those relatively very few ‘geniuses’ (that only come from three Mongoloid sub-groups BTW: Japanese, Koreans, and Han Chinese, in that order in terms of ranking) think like a Caucasian genius (the evidence is harsh in that regard when one looks at the historical record).
      Also, by definition, they have a real tendency to kill or eliminate anyone who sticks out. How do you think they got such a narrow distribution in the first place? That is, there is a certain circularity to their DNA that makes it relatively hard, if not impossible, for them to break the cycle of copy and stagnate.

      • Brian

        Exactly. It’s hard to imagine the Japanese equivalent of Tesla or Steve Jobs. Or Beethoven, or Van Gogh. Orientals are very good at coloring within the lines, not so good at maverick innovation.

        • newscomments70

          Toyota uses Tesla technology for its electric Rav4.

          • Brian

            I use calculus in my job, but I didn’t invent it. That’s the distinction I’m making.

          • newscomments70

            I was agreeing with you, using an example.

          • Brian

            Ah, sorry. It’s hard to tell with no facial expressions or body language sometimes.

  • Brian

    That is plausible. Putting a turbocharger on a VW and a Porsche will improve performance of both, but the gap remains.

  • Andy

    I read a panicked article a few years back about how you could predict whether children would go to college based on their kindergarten performance.

  • Andy

    Many liberals have high general intelligence. In my experience, it’s the emotional need for status and acceptance and isolation from the effects of their policies that drive them to convince themselves of the obviously false.

  • ben no

    Well, its too bad that Mr. Taylor forgot the massive important aspect of creativity when he said that. Western creativity, innovation and the resulting revolutionized world allows East Asians to flourish by giving them the legs to stand on, without that key-holder, they are almost as primitive as any other non-white and would still be, as matter of fact. So, no! Clearly those midget Mongoloids are NOT superior in “just about any measure”. I mean what an utterly ridiculous thing for an intelligent man to
    say!

    Dream on, asshole!

  • ben no

    Hello! Retard! Asians do NOT invent many with with original ideals. They more often simply adapt and borrow existing western technology and find a way to improve so that it is productive and modern. This is technological advancement – different from actual inventing. The difference is SIMPLE. How many more times do you have to be told, retard?! What is it that you don’t get, retard? Why can’t your brain understand, retard?

    Don’t kid yourself, you foolish idiot. Eastern Asians aren’t even close to the white number on true, original, significant and revolutionary inventions, LET ALONE, ahead!!! The lines aren’t parallel no matter how much you wish it. I’m sorry, but what drugs are you on to make you think them Asians could possibly share the same pioneering spirit of Whites???

  • hkq999

    “Their brain works differently from blacks”.
    The way one’s brain works is due to a number of factors. I think blacks might be generally less intelligent but there are exceptions and it’s much more complex than that. The fact is it’s not purely biological, if it were we wouldn’t need to learn anything and our brains would be completely fixed at birth. And it’s funny how you think white’s didn’t borrow anything from other cultures.