Illegal Immigrants from India Stream into US from Mexico

Cynthia Fagen, Newsmax, November 19, 2013

Hundreds of undocumented immigrants from India are taking an unusual route to the United States, illegally crossing from Mexico into Arizona to seek political asylum

Those numbers are likely to rise in 2014, the head of a D.C.-based Asian immigrant rights group told Newsmax on Tuesday.

Deepa Iyer, executive director of South Asian Americans Leading Together, said “it’s not clear” why immigrants from India are using the same route as Central Americans.

One reason may be that many South American countries don’t require visas, Eleanor Sohnen, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, a D.C.-based think tank, told the Arizona Daily Star. Many can pay up to $35,000 to be smuggled into the country.

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Iyer said the U.S. immigration system is broken and desperate immigrants don’t want to wait five to 10 years to join loved ones in the United States, while others have fled India, a country of 1.2 billion people, claiming political persecution.

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Some immigrant advocates are concerned that Indians are being robbed and physically harmed by smugglers during their multi-country journey to the United States, or are preyed on by unscrupulous employers once they get here.

Some border-security advocates think human smuggling gangs being used by Indians to get to the U.S. could also become pipelines for terrorists.

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  • What are the supposed grounds that Indians are using for asylum that they have to leave India? And if something bad is happening in India so they need asylum from India, why do they need to go to the other side of the world? Why not seek refuge in a reasonably safe country close to India, which is what refugees are supposed to do?

    • Triarius

      Reason for asylum? Well if they actually needed one they can say they have no access to toilets.

  • Pro_Whitey

    Why do they take the same path as Central Americans? You’re kidding, right? Because the border is undefended! Thanks, John McCain, among others, for building the dang fence . . . not!

  • Spartacus

    “Some immigrant advocates are concerned that Indians are being robbed and
    physically harmed by smugglers during their multi-country journey to
    the United States, or are preyed on by unscrupulous employers once they
    get here.”

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    Yeah, that’s my main concern…

    • Oil Can Harry

      Why… are these “immigrant advocates” worried the Indians will be mugged? Are they (gasp!!!) saying that Mexicans are prone to crime?

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Why don’t they call it an unfinished journey and stay put in Mexico? Considering how arrogant Indians are, isn’t there more of a need for them to show off their IT, medical, and engineering knowledge in Mexico than here? If they did that in Mexico, they would have a more impressed audience as opposed to an irritated one.

    • Triarius

      Omg, yes! The arrogance of Indians goes beyond any other group of people I have ever encountered. When they hold their nose up I ask them why they don’t live in India if it is so much better, diving Indian cars and using Indian technology. Their collective IQ is around that of American blacks (they hate that one). also, a large percentage of their population is illiterate and defecate in the the streets. They’re so smart, but they can’t build a sewer?

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        Exactly! No other ethnic group irritates me more.

        • Triarius

          Ditto. And I didn’t even mention the smell.

          • So CAL Snowman

            And their food is absolutely terrible. I enjoy many “ethnic” foods but Indian food is the worst.

          • ixObserver

            What does food have to do with anything? There are a lot of people who like it, there are a lot who don’t. It’s purely subjective matter. I always thought a slab of meat with little else is basically a dish of the barbarians and this is the prime cuisine of Northern Europe and NE-American descendants. Warmer climates have produced much richer food, flavor wise, whether in Europe (southern side) or elsewhere for obvious reasons.

        • Sick of it

          You haven’t been around enough Hispanics.

        • ixObserver

          This is NOT a response to you Courtney, writing here to keep it in the context.

          It looks like a comment (and my response to it) from one Mr. SaxonSun in this section has been removed. While it’s up to the site owners what to keep and what not to, I am not sure if censorship in this and similar cases serves any useful purpose. I am writing this because his comment seems to have passed the filters (manual or automatic) originally so not sure what’s the point of removing it after my response. Anyway rules are rules.

      • So CAL Snowman

        There is not a single person I despise more on this planet than Fareed Zakaria. This dumpy little indian’s parents came to the US to escape the hellish conditions that 1.5 billion indians created and his response is to agitate for more non White immigration into the US.

        • mobilebay

          Ditto, Snowman. I click by his channel as fast as possible when I see his face. He’s scary, and like all of his kind, can’t wait to recreate the hellholes they left behind. However, my choice for “Most Despised” is, and always wll be, Luis Gutierrez.

      • saxonsun

        Can’t stand them. They have infested NYC’S boroughs.

        • ixObserver

          ‘infested’ – interesting language. As long as you continue to dehumanize people with references like ‘infested’, ‘vermin’ etc don’t expect a fair chance for voicing concerns or your cause to be respected by general population. David Duke was wise enough to realize this. The ‘infestation’ could have been prevented if you remained sealed inside your ancestral lands and never ventured out. You can’t have it both ways.

    • Greg Thomas

      That will not work Courtney because Mexico actually enforces its immigration laws. You know, they believe mexico is for mexicans.

      • Bossman

        If Mexico enforces its immigration laws, how come so many people are able to use Mexico as a transit point to enter into the USA?

        • Greg Thomas

          Because they are using mexico as a gateway and not squatting on mexican soil, stealing jobs from mexicans. In
          addition, most Indians are likely entering mexico legally before violating our southern border.

          Illegal invaders from South America have a very difficult time entering mexico illegally and are dealt with in swift fashion by the mexican government.

          Have you hugged an illegal mexican today bossman?

          • ixObserver

            “In addition, most Indians are likely entering mexico legally before violating our southern border.”

            Exactly my thought as well and this is why I think Indian govt. can’t do much other than take back those deported. The last line cracked me up, good sense of humor ;-).

    • ixObserver

      Arrogance of Indians comes across as a strange phenomenon to me and here’s why. India is a poor country, so people lack confidence collectively and individually in most cases. Confidence is essential for arrogance to exist. I think poverty is not the only factor that affects (knowledge is another) confidence but it sure does have a strong co-relation with arrogance (a near inverse relationship). Most Indians are down to earth and you’ll see this right away if you ever visit India or ask people who have. This is actually a striking feature within India, the overly friendly, warm nature of people. I have seen a particular group of people though who demonstrate high levels of arrogance – the parallel of Ivy league types in the US and a few wealthy business men/families. But this a small group, compared to the masses. The first thing I noticed in America was how confident the women here are. It is impressive. I noticed this difference because Indians are not very confident or assertive but compliant mostly. Sharp cultural differences also lead to perceiving certain action(s) as rude or arrogant while that may not be the intent. Of course our perceptions are defined by our experiences and you have had a different one. Was this something you observed in Alabama ? Curious about the location where your perception took shape.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        I don’t agree at all. I have noticed that insecure groups of people are the ones who act the most arrogant. This is true in just about every situation. People who are lacking in a lot of ways have to make up for it by talking about how great they are.

        Whites mostly live in First World countries, yet we beat up on ourselves more than anyone else does their own. We are also the most humble.

        “An empty barrel makes the most noise”.

        • ixObserver

          Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

          “We are also the most humble”

          No offence but it is hard to believe this while America is exporting war daily. The British used to put up signs such as below in India

          “Dogs and Indians not allowed”

          Would this be arrogance or humility ? Maybe the differential here is average person vs the elite and timeline as well. It is also possible that this past arrogance has resulted in humility today.

          Empty vessels, Arrogance:

          Given your experience with Indians in the US you will be in for a real surprise if you ever happen to visit India as far as humility goes. I am not sure if it is just poverty or poverty in conjunction with traits that makes people humble but it is real there. It is hard to be arrogant when you are struggling for a few square meals a day. Indians are generally friendly but some are very insular.

          No recent achievements, colonial and Mohammedan rule resulting in inferiority complex, humiliation resulting in the current national narrative contribute much to the empty vessel syndrome. Also Indians (% wise) are not well read. The large mass of low IQed ones might also make some high IQed ones arrogant simply due to the contrast they provide. No offence but Alabama should mostly be getting some combination of wealthy/poor and avg/dull types.

          Western elites beating up on their people is a recent phenomenon. Then again ours aren’t any better, so we are all in the same soup there.

        • ixObserver

          Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

          “We are also the most humble”

          No offence but it is hard to believe this while America is exporting war daily. The British used to put up signs such as below in India

          “Dogs and Indians not allowed”

          Would this be arrogance or humility ? Maybe the differential here is average person vs the elite and timeline as well. It is also possible that this past arrogance has resulted in humility today.

          Empty vessels, Arrogance:

          Given your experience with Indians in the US you will be in for a real surprise if you ever happen to visit India as far as humility goes. I am not sure if it is just poverty or poverty in conjunction with traits that makes people humble but it is real there. It is hard to be arrogant when you are struggling for a few square meals a day. Indians are generally friendly but some are very insular.

          No recent achievements, colonial and Mohammedan rule resulting in inferiority complex, humiliation resulting in the current national narrative contribute much to the empty vessel syndrome. Also Indians (% wise) are not well read. The large mass of low IQed ones might also make some high IQed ones arrogant simply due to the contrast they provide. No offence but Alabama should mostly be getting some combination of wealthy/poor and avg/dull types.

          Western elites beating up on their people is a recent phenomenon. Then again ours aren’t any better, so we are all in the same soup there.

  • David Ashton

    “Romaphobia” yet to come.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Newsflash in regards to Indians: They seem so irritated when a white historian talks about the “aryan invasion” (hmmm, looks like spell check doesn’t even recognize that as a word anymore)….anyways, they get irritated because they like to claim that everything great about their ancient civilizations was native to the subcontinent. Well, recent research shows that the gene that causes light skin in Europeans is the same gene found in light skinned Indians. Yet more evidence for what we all know to be true.

  • bigone4u

    There’s a massive invasion of Indians into South Texas too. It might be fun to sit back and watch the illegal Mexicans slug it out with the illegal Indians. My money would be on the Mexicans, due to all that human sacrificing they did back in the day. Although I see whites dating other races around here, I have never seen a white with an Indian. I guess it’s the fugly factor at work.

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      I will admit that some (male and female) are attractive, but I would never date one. For the most part they have a very odd and distinct look to them. I always thought they looked like smurfs colored brown instead of blue. Look at their noses and eyes.

      • bigone4u

        Sabu, the 1940s movie star, is the only really successful Hindu to make it in the movies here in the US. As a boy I enjoyed his jungle adventures. He was not repulsive. Today, a number of the free porn sites feature a category of Indian porn. Like Arab porn, Latina porn, and many other categories, I avoid Indian porn at all costs. I also avoid Bollywood movies for the same reason.

        • Bossman

          I didn’t know that there was such a thing as Arab porn? I’ve never looked for it. What is the focus in Arab porn?

          • bigone4u

            The same as any other porn except the participants have a middle eastern look, and sometimes middle eastern type adornments. I think it’s a small niche area, fetishizing Arab women. I believe the participants are immigrants to the West since making porn in Muslim countries can get you stoned to death.

    • Sick of it

      Indians tend to marry within their ethnic group and some are still fine with arranged marriages of that sort.

  • RHG

    Well this isn’t hard to figure out, they come through Mexico because they see millions of Mexicans entering illegally from there. they figure it must be pretty easy then and of course they already know the magic words to use if they’re caught, “persecution” and “political asylum”.

  • DaveMed

    I guess there’s no need for the India Star> or the Last Chance Armada when you’ve got a wide-open southern border.

    • dukem1

      Exactly..Good reference.

  • freddy_hills

    I don’t particularly have anything against Indians. I’ve known a few and liked them. But I think that would change if there were large numbers. When you get large numbers of any group it causes conflict.

    • DaveMed

      I know a lot of Indians as well. They are generally well-mannered, but make no mistake: they consider themselves part of the coalition of the colored.

      • freddy_hills

        I’m not naive. I realize they’ve formed a coalition to displace the founders of this country. The coalition isn’t motivated by principle or tolerance but naked racial self-interest. At some point the numbers will flip and then so will the coalition.

        • saxonsun

          Except when they lived in South Africa. Then they thought they were white!

          • dukem1

            But back in the day, the Boers had a different opinion.

          • ixObserver

            Maybe they were trying to survive in a racially charged environment, not to mention apartheid. Otherwise I don’t see a reason why anyone would identify with a group that’s bent on labeling, categorizing and forcefully segregating those whom they see as different from themselves.

    • shmo123

      I have nothing against Indians either, but like most people from the third world, they come for strictly economic reasons and we can’t take all the world’s poor. I have never been to India, but I’m very close with people who go there regularly for business and they always say the same thing: India, despite what anyone may hear about a growing middle class, is for the most part, a filthy, squalid place where wretched poverty is the norm, not the exception, and I don’t blame them for wanting to leave. By the same token, I don’t want them to all come here either.

    • rightrightright

      India has an extremely large moslem minority. They will be importing themselves via this route along with the Hindu Indians. That is never good news.

    • Greg Thomas

      I like Indians just fine so long as thet stay in India.

  • Magician

    haha, I was sure you can simply enter with your tourist visa, and then scream “You evil white racists are violating my human rights!!” if anyone tries to deport you, and then the government will quickly allow you to stay permanently and give you free housing and everything for the rest of your lives?

    It actually is a great improvement that you have to pay $35000 to be smuggled here

  • Homo_Occidentalis

    Two words: chain migration.

  • bigone4u

    I write about it. Check out my essay on Henry Makow’s website last month. I think Henry called it: “Sexual Revolution: Bestiality and Pedophilia are Next.” Also, check out my essay on interracial porn on blondegynocide(dot)wordpress(dot)com a couple of months ago. Most porn is Satanic, part of the agenda to destroy us.

  • Greg Thomas

    Our immigration system is “broken” because we allow millions of third world illegal invaders to flood this country and then cry about how the “system is broken” because they cannot get instant amnesty.

    • Bossman

      How does the USA “allow” millions to “flood” into this country? The USA is the premier country in the world and it is at the center of world trade and commerce. If there’s a problem at the southern border, the only solution is to work closely with Mexico to make the southern border a shared responsibility of both countries.

      • Greg Thomas

        I see you have been hitting the tequila again bossman. The only solution is to defend our southern border from invasion. Mexicans are only good for one thing and that is creating another mexico wherever they may go.

  • Greg Thomas

    So the dot heads are paying up to $35,000 to be smuggled through mexico. Looks like Jose is ripping them off.

    • ixObserver

      Why are Americans so obsessed with labels and nicknames for everything ? Strange.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        We are only doing what everyone else does. The Japanese refer to us as “round eyes”, but we don’t give a care.

  • Whitetrashgang

    And the best part is you have to pay for it.

  • scutum

    I have a friend who lived in New Mexico for a while with his wife and kids. He told me that there are people from every country in the world coming across our southern border, not just Mexicans. He also told me that a significant number of these people are coming from countries that are hostile towards the US.

    • WR_the_realist

      This should surprise no one. Suppose I was a foreign terrorist keen on causing death and destruction in the United States. I would first sneak into Mexico (the hard part). Then (the easy part) I would walk across the border, and be greeted with open arms by Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and both George W. and Jeb Bush.

      • Chip Carver

        You forgot to mention Abe Foxman and Charles Schumer, they’d be the very first to wrap their arms around any foreign invader.

  • disqus_irCdmAu8It

    Just take a look at San Jose and the south bay area. The Indians have taken over, and they tend to be some of the most racist people on earth.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    I agree, but I disagree with what you are implying with your last sentence. If you read my post again, you will see that I wasn’t trying to discuss everything I know about the aryan invasion. I was only referring to the most recent study that has come out.

    • ixObserver

      I didn’t imply you were trying to discuss the whole thing, I was actually trying to avoid doing that myself. And without getting into some detail I couldn’t have explained what I was trying to imply. In retrospect I think my last statement in my org. response was a bit vague.

  • ixObserver

    Hmmm, where do I start fella. Firstly, it is not true India doesn’t welcome others. We don’t have an economy strong enough to support ourselves so I don’t know why any outsider would want to come but those want to, can and some do. There have been migrations into and out of India for thousands of years (yeah thousands), nothing new. We don’t have a smooth immigration system, if that’s what you are referring to. Heck we don’t have any ‘smooth’ system. In fact SA Boers if they want to and if they can are very welcome to come to India. I don’t think they would want to (reason – in the next paragraph).

    Secondly, Indians want to be prosperous and are a bit ambitious but there is no get-whitey conspiracy going on. Trust me, none whatsoever. When two distinct groups cohabit same space, especially when one of them is a new entrant a lot of things become very visible. Hence you see this ‘they are stealing our jobs, they are getting into political office’ affect with respect to Indians in the US (for ex) but not so much with Russians in the US. Russians stemming from the same racial strata as most Americans can assimilate easily. Americans can visually and psychologically assimilate Russians easily as well. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t affect. Normal in multi-racial situations, nothing strange.

    Thirdly, coming to the Africans in India, do I even need to say anything? The Nigerians were, surprise surprise, involved in drug trafficking. When some dim wit go shot in a gang fight the entire Nigerian ‘community’ numbering around 200 rioted against the local population and the police. How do you expect them to be treated after this crap ? Most Africans, even with their minute numbers in India, are involved in their ancestral trade – drugs !

  • ixObserver

    There is archaeological (reasonable, in central asia), linguistic (strong) and genetic evidence of admixture whether it’s called ‘invasion’ ‘migration’ or something else. Also this may have happened in phases, so India was effectively deriving more from Central Asia than Europe directly. To that extent I don’t think it is concocted although there is more detail to be unearthed. The problem arises when firstly – westerners start insinuating or even claiming outright that everything that ever came out of India is basically Western simply due to common genes or whatever. This is outright ridiculous and we can that right here sometimes. It is like saying humans and chimps have a 99% match in DNA hence chimps are the architects of civilizations or because Arabic numerals (oxymoron) came from India, India has claim to everything ever invented that’s based on this number system. Secondly, being hounded in our own country as outsiders makes the debate harder.