Some Well-Dressed White Nationalists Gathered in DC Last Weekend

CJ Ciaramella, VICE, October 29, 2013

The worst part about going to a white nationalist conference is when everyone thinks you’re a white nationalist.

As I approached the Ronald Reagan Building in downtown Washington, DC, on Saturday morning, a group of protesters started jeering at me, and one hoisted a cardboard sign in my direction that read: “Fuck off, Nazis!” Then I had to pass through a metal detector and security checkpoint manned by several black policemen.

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The event in question was the National Policy Institute’s “leadership conference,” titled “After the Fall: The Future of Identity.” It’s a boring name that, like a lot of vague monikers used by political entities, conceals an alarming agenda.

The National Policy Institute is a white nationalist think tank. These aren’t Breaking Bad Nazis or yokels in KKK robes. These are suit-and-tie white separatists—academic-sounding fellows who speak grimly about “preserving European culture” from the swarthy tide of egalitarianism and immigration. Their leader, Richard Spencer, is as clean-cut as they come, which, as he told Salon, is essentially a recruitment tactic:

“'[White separatists] have to look good,’ Spencer said, adding that if his movement means ‘being part of something that is crazed or ugly or vicious or just stupid, no one is going to want to be a part of it.’”

The assumption is that if they dress nice, people will follow Spencer and his fellow travelers on their road to a white ethno-state where pasty people can listen to Jack Johnson records and play Frisbee in glorious racial homogeneity.

Spencer explained it me using an interesting analogy:

“In the mid 19th century, many Jews in Central Europe had an idea of an ethno-state, an idea of Zionism, and they were considered ridiculous and insane,” Spencer said. “But they had that dream, and that dream came into reality. Our dream is a new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans. It would be a new society based on very different ideals than, say, the Declaration of Independence.”

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With the white ethno-state still a distant fever-dream, the conference wasn’t exactly an enormous hit—roughly 100 people registered for Saturday’s conference, according to Spencer, and by my count, about five of them were women (one of whom was Spencer’s wife). If the white race is counting on these folks for its survival, white people may be in trouble.

However, there were a surprising number of younger people. When Spencer asked the crowd how many were 29 or younger, around a quarter to a third of the hands in the room shot up. That might be because of the steeply discounted “millennial” tickets—only $55 for those under 25, instead of the regular $185. {snip}

The only attendee who would give me his full name was Dan Poole, a 24-year-old who said he got into far-right thinking after becoming disillusioned with the Tea Party and mainstream conservatism’s failure to address “antiwhite bias in government and media.”

I also met a 33-year-old first-timer named Melissa. She’d been introduced to the movement through publications her dad subscribed to. She said she found the conference “refreshing.”

“What would you say to the protesters outside who say it’s racist?” I asked her.

“I would challenge them to sit through one of these talks and think through the things that were said,” she replied. “They’ve probably never fairly considered them before, maybe because of their training, or because of their circumstances, or because of their capabilities.”

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Not surprisingly, Spencer was far more suave when talking to the media than any of his acolytes. When I asked him what he thought about changing the name of the Washington Redskins, he went on a polished tangent:

“It’s kind of funny because ‘Redskins,’ unlike the Braves or something, does sound like kind of a vicious name, but in many ways it’s a white romanticization of the Indian,” Spencer told me. “Despite the fact that it might be a little unpleasant, I think it ultimately does derive from the fact that we understand the American Indian is a kind of unique culture and people that probably is worth preserving. I actually live up near a lot of reservations, and I kind of almost admire that mentality of allowing them to have their own community. I would want it even more radical, though, in the sense that I would want them to really have an Indian community based their traditions, and no white men allowed. If a white man walked in, y’know, he’d be taking his life into his own hands.”

It almost comes off as a Indian-friendly viewpoint, complete with words like “preserving” and “romanticization,” and then a second later you realize, oh, if the white man can’t walk into the Indian community, the Indian probably isn’t welcome in Spencer’s pasty preserve either.

The conference featured plenty of guest speakers, all from the “alternative right,” as the loose coalition of antidemocratic and race-obsessed groups call themselves. They generally agree that modernity will collapse on itself sometime in the near future, and then it will be up to whites to fend for themselves.

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Perhaps my favorite speaker was Jack Donovan, a writer from the “manosphere” who railed against the feminization of society and pens sweaty odes to masculinity. Donovan urged the crowd to become “barbarians” who live outside the state in like-minded, interdependent tribes.

After a keynote speech by Nouvelle Droite philosopher Alain de Benoist, the father of French neo-fascism, the attendees filtered out to enjoy an open bar and buffet spread.

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This seems like a good place to point out that despite all their bluster about living outside of the state, the attendees were not exactly profiles in courage when it came to going public with their opinions. Earlier in the day, Spencer had asked how many in the crowd were attending under a nom de guerre, and about half the audience raised their hands.

They were even more paranoid when they were face to face with a reporter. One young man wearing a sports coat and a preppy tie was convinced I was monitoring him. “Are you recording me?” he asked when he saw me with my cell phone out. “Did you just take a picture of me?” he asked a few minutes later.

As I was leaving to go home, I took a picture of the crowd with the flash on and gave Preppy Tie a big thumbs up.

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CJ Ciaramella is a reporter for the Washington Free Beacon whose writing has also appeared in SalonThe Awl, and The Weekly Standard.

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  • Son of Galton

    Replace “white” with “black” and “pasty” with “sooty” and you’d have an article about the Nation of Islam–and you’d be out of a career. The anti-Whites are getting more desperate by the day. That’s why they’re so obsessed with “clean-cut,” “neatly dressed,” “nice-looking” White nationalists–they can’t demonize them.

    • Charles W.

      Don’t be so sure: Farrakhan and the NOI are far from media darlings. Probably because they actually speak a lot of truth.

      A more apt comparison would be a “We All Trayvon” rally.

  • bigone4u

    Pretending I am a blank slate, reading this story makes me want to find out more about the movement. My first thought is why shouldn’t there be a white ethno-state
    .
    The reporter gives away the game early on when he (or she) expresses concern about being thought of badly by wacko demonstrators and black cops. Who cares about them? It makes the denigration of the attendees all the more hypocritical.

    Final thought: Does the press ever simply report the facts anymore, without the PC spin? I think we know the answer.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      “My first thought is why shouldn’t there be a white ethno-state?”

      The white ethno-state of most interest to me at the moment is that of Elizabethan England, as reflected in Shakespeare’s ten history plays (I’m just starting the tenth, Henry VIII). The unsurpassed eloquence Shakespeare assigns to his characters is wondrous to imagine in actuality. Could they have really talked like that? This was, moreover, an ethno-state that did not take treason lightly. Below is what happened to the Duke of Buckingham whom Shakespeare hints may have been framed by an overweening Cardinal Wolsey, then #2 man in the England:

      “…Thus was this prince duke of Buckingham found giltie of treason by a duke, a marques, seven earles amd twelve barons. The duke was brought to the barre sore chafing and swet marvellouslie; and after he made his reverence he paused a while. The duke of Norffolke as judge said: Sir Edward, you have heard how you be indicted of high treason. You pleaded not giltie, putting your selfe to the peeres of the realme, which have found you giltie. Then the duke of Norffolke wept and said: You shall be led to the kings prison, and there laid on a hardle, and so drawne to the place of execution, and there be hanged, cut down alive, your members cut off and cast in the fire, your bowels burnt before you, your head smitten off, and your body quartered and divided at the kings will, and God have mercie on your soule, Amen.” (Raphael Holinshed (1529–1580, an English chronicler, a major source for William Shakespeare a number of his plays, in this instance Shakespeare’s Henry VIII)

  • Jefferson

    It’s not the clean cut White nationalists that I am suspicious of, it’s the stereotypical extremely over the top American History X type White nationalists that I am most suspicious of because I believe most of them are F.B.I informants.

    • Spartacus

      Don’t be . I’m basically one of those “extremely over the top” people, minus the tattoos and the shaved head. And I intend to get a few tattoos eventually .

      • Katherine McChesney

        Tattoos are for thugs and the lower class people.

        • Spartacus

          Who says ?

    • Sick of it

      At least half are, as so many folks found out to their chagrin. See Operation PATCON – They’ve been in our organizations and doing things in our name for quite a few years now. One of the guys who helped McVeigh was an FBI informant – Michael William Brescia. There were others who knew of the plot who may or may not have been FBI informants as well. In more modern times, we read news stories about how the FBI pushed a guy to commit an act of terrorism…then capture him right before the act. And then there’s the fact that we’re funding/training/arming al Qaeda…in other words, our government is chock full of vicious, scheming traitors who would do anything to anyone at anytime and feel absolutely no remorse.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Here’s our boy CJ Ciaramella right here. One of many undercover reporters and FBI agents in attendance. If I ever go to one of those meetings, it will be when I’m too old, and they can’t really do anything to me at that point.

    • Sick of it

      You are never too old to be punished by vindictive people – See Simon Wiesenthal.

  • Andy

    “It almost comes off as a Indian-friendly viewpoint, complete with words like “preserving” and “romanticization,” and then a second later you realize, oh, if the white man can’t walk into the Indian community, the Indian probably isn’t welcome in Spencer’s pasty preserve either.”

    So the idea of whites being killed for being on red land doesn’t disturb him, but the idea of reds being killed for being on white land does.

    “This seems like a good place to point out that despite all their bluster about living outside of the state, the attendees were not exactly profiles in courage when it came to going public with their opinions. Earlier in the day, Spencer had asked how many in the crowd were attending under a nom de guerre, and about half the audience raised their hands.”

    Huh… I wonder why that would be.

    • Spartacus

      “So the idea of whites being killed for being on red land doesn’t disturb
      him, but the idea of reds being killed for being on white land does.”

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      For anti-White vermin like this one, Whites being killed on Red land isn’t disturbing, it probably gives him an erection . Remember – our enemies hate us, and their ultimate goal is to exterminate us .

    • Brian

      Casually walking in front of a firing squad is not courage. I guess that’s too obvious for Ciaramella The Snarkmonger.

  • Wethepeople

    Here’s the vaunted race traitor. For someone of that complexion he talks a lot of garbage about a ‘pasty’ society. He must not realize some of us go outside and enjoy endeavors in the sun. Not all of us have time to sit at home fantasizing about the death of all whites and a black run sharia government. He says he is anti-racist, he really means he is anti-white.

    • D.B. Cooper

      Looking at that face is like eating a hot pepper and needing a drink of cold iced tea.
      Let Caroline Wozniacki be the cool drink you’ll need after looking at CJ’s face.
      Seriously, I needed to look at something nice after having to look at Ciaramella.

      • Jotun Hunter

        jesus christmas she’s a looker

      • Paleoconn

        Thank you for that! The author of this piece uses the term ‘pasty’ twice, can somebody say ‘self-hating’ ?

        He also imagines a White community playing frisbee and listening to Jack Johnson records. haha These people just crack me up. I bet this guy lives in a community very much like the state Mr. Spencer wishes for his people.

    • ms_anthro

      Weak chin with scraggly hipster beard in a sad attempt to hide it, slack face, soft, feminine eyes, bad haircut. These are the weak seeds we’re supposed to take seriously when they condescend to lecture us about our own interests.

      • IstvanIN

        He doesn’t have a weak chin, not that that matters.

        • ms_anthro

          I disagree. If you look closely you can see that the beard is longest at the peak of his chin, just where he needs it to be to give the illusion of strength. He looks like he could be bullied by a kindergartner.

          • IstvanIN

            He has a very prominent chin, that isn’t all beard. And a weak chin doesn’t make a bad or weak person, nor does a prominent jaw or chin make a good or strong person.

          • ms_anthro

            Again, we disagree. The chin alone doesn’t make the face, but you can tell a lot about a person’s character by their appearance. Our friend at VICE is a weasel and it shows.

          • IstvanIN

            Ok, only the handsome and pretty are good.

          • ms_anthro

            I didn’t say that and you seem to be taking my tongue-in-cheek comments personally. My apologies if I struck a nerve.

          • IstvanIN

            I didn’t take it personally at all, I just think it is amusing to judge someone on their weak jaw, droopy eyes and bad hair cut. Rather like people criticizing Matt Heimlich for being chubby. It is the opinions that matter as far as I am concerned. Your original comment just cracked me up. No apologies needed to me.

          • Tim_in_Indiana

            That was my impression too, that you were taking it personally. Anyway, ms_anthro made the observations about the writer’s appearance merely because the writer had made all the disparaging comments about “pasty” attendees. Turnabout is fair play.

          • IstvanIN

            The author is very white, that is for sure. Talk about the kettle, oh never mind.

          • Paleoconn

            Heimlich is what somebody needs to do to Heimbach when he chokes on his cereal seeing his name written the way you wrote it. I’m just poking fun!

          • IstvanIN

            Oh dear! I have made a booboo! But I do respect the young man!

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        He’s a Tim Wise clone, another White-hating, racist moron who’s made it his life’s work to denigrate Whites. Like Wise, CJ Ciaramella is in the race accusation business because it pays well.

        I wish Richard Spencer had turned this around and asked this jerk, point blank, a few questions of his own along the lines of:

        “What is wrong with a White ethnostate?”

        “What is wrong with wishing to preserve European Culture?”

        “Would you call a meeting of the NAACP or LaRaza racist?”

        No? Then you are an uncompromising, racist hypocrite who believes Whites and ONLY Whites have no right to preserve their heritage, culture and history.

        (insert Bob Whitaker’s mantra for effect)

        the attendees were not exactly profiles in courage when it came to going public with their opinions.

        Because anti-White bullies like you revel in getting Whites fired from their jobs and smearing their reputations for SAYING or believing something YOU don’t like.

        Bon

    • NorthernWind

      He looks like a soft man, spiritually and physically. That would explain his worry about being thought of as a White nationalist and his mocking of Whiteness (for example his use of the word “pasty”).

      • Katherine McChesney

        I think he look a bit scruffy. And very ordinary.

    • Funruffian

      OMG. That looks like the has-been actor Tom Hulce.

  • Dave4088

    Assuming this third rate journalist is white, I can guarantee he likely lives in a mostly white enclave with mostly white or all white friends, associates and colleagues even though he’ll claim he has lots of minority and even “gay” friends. If this were a gathering of Jewish, black or Latino nationalism the mocking tone with which he described white nationalists would be replaced with admiration and fulsome praise.

  • Dave4088

    CJ is obviously too ideological and too dense to realize that whites have legitimate group interests like every other race squatting in North America is allowed to have. That or he’s just your run of the mill mercenary journalist who knows which side his bread is buttered and the other side pays much better than we do.

  • MekongDelta69

    This idiot is exactly like the idiot (Lauren Fox) in the Salon article above, condescending and snarky.

    Both these people are just as ‘pasty‘ (his word) as anyone who attended the NPI Conference.

    • T_Losan

      The sad thing is that the early VICE of the late 1990s would have given fairer coverage of the event and, if I remember correctly, didn’t have predictable bores such as Ciaramella on staff.

    • Jack Burton

      Passive-aggressive scum like this guy, who are pasty themselves, are why I find ideas of an all-encompassing White identity to be absurd and if you think all Whites are going to rise up together you’re delusional. People like him ARE the primary impediment to our success, other Whites who for whatever mental illness want to see their own people and culture corrupted and/or destroyed which by all estimations is about 40-50%.

  • Sick of it

    I called him as a writer for Salon before reading the bottom of this story. It was obvious from the way he talked about the conference. Weekly Standard also makes sense. To consider this guy a conservative might be stretching things a bit.

  • c684570

    Black events are clearly so much more pleasant.

    • Erasmus

      Flash mobs, looting, rioting and gang-raping?

  • Erasmus

    Coverage by the MSM will give the white nationalist movement exposure to people who wouldn’t have otherwise known about them. Thank you. The people in the movement also present so well that they’re going to be very attractive to anyone looking for the truth.

  • ViktorNN

    He looked and looked for something outrageous that the evil white racists said, or for them to commit some gaffe, or to be poorly spoken or flat out stupid. But none of that happened. His article is actually boring. Poor anti-white hipster.

  • Franklin_Ryckaert

    To avoid being associated with those “racist” white nationalists he should have come in black face. Perhaps also a good advice for Tim Wise, then he can advertize himself as “Black like me”.:)

  • Franklin_Ryckaert

    If you add all peoples of European descent together you get about one billion people, that is still 14% of the world’s population. The problem is not numbers (absolute or relative) but mass non-white immigration into white countries. Great numbers of Chinese in China, Indians in India or Africans in Africa are no danger to us as long as they stay in their own countries, nor is their wish to come to us a threat. It is our politicians who let these people in who are the problem.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      You have to remember that the USG often counts Middle Easterners and some Hispanics as “White.”

      I believe this is done — especially in California– to not panic the White population as to how far our numbers have fallen.

      My own school district uses this paradigm:

      whites: Having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa.

      Note the lower-case “w” in Whites — yet the school district uses African-American, Hispanic, Asian-American Pacific Islanders, etc., all in upper-case — just like the media, on purpose to further denigrate Whites.

      Bon

  • European Observer

    He didn’t have to go to the conference if he had already made up his mind about it. At least, this is what journalists who take their job serious do. In fact, the bit about the Redskins showed that he was either not prepared or is not the sharpest tool in the box. Else he would have known that white nationalism is actually far from denigrating others. It values the other, but as the other (unlike multiculturalism which values only the other if he is non-white). One state for the whites, one for the Indians. Everybody goes his own way. The reporter was clearly not of the learned type, even when disregarding his obvious bias.

  • Sangraal

    The statistics can be tricky – some equate ‘white’ with ‘caucasian’. Of course, not all caucasians are what we would consider ‘white’, ie. European. But I agree with Franklin below – numbers lose relevance past a certain point. It’s about what we see in daily life when we walk through our major cities, knowing our smaller towns aren’t far behind. Knowing there are a billion whites ‘somewhere out there, maybe in Montana, or Australia or something…’ is small comfort when you walk through London, Paris, or Chicago, etc.

    Further, quantity is meaningless without quality – on numbers alone, whites aren’t heading to extinction anytime soon (despite what some of our more hysterical comrades say). However it will be a feeble existence as a dwindling twilight race without a sense of who we are. A deracinated multitude of hundreds of millions has nothing on the being (as opposed to mere existence) of a race, as a race, not as a mass of individuals. Of the billion whites, the 14% of world population, how many have a sense of our being, our history and destiny as a race? Without a sense of history, we will become history. Numerically, the white race is holding out (for the timebeing), but as a race we are in a vegetative state – nominally alive, but going nowhere. This is why, despite his facetious tone, Mr. Ciamella here is more right than he knows when he writes,

    ‘With the white ethno-state still a distant fever-dream, the conference
    wasn’t exactly an enormous hit—roughly 100 people registered for
    Saturday’s conference, according to Spencer, and by my count, about five
    of them were women (one of whom was Spencer’s wife). If the white race
    is counting on these folks for its survival, white people may be in
    trouble.’

    (This also raises the issue of what proportion of that billion are pre-menopausal females, compared to those who are not long of this world. With our aging populations, we can expect a more rapid decrease once the baby-boomers shuffle off.)

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    That graph was put out by the National Policy Institute — the same group that hosted the conference referenced in the article, I downloaded it from an at-the-time new article, dated April, 2012.

    I believe you are correct: If anything, the percentage of Whites shown at this point in time is far too high. I also don’t believe the USG’s numbers that Whites constitute 60% of the American population, I believe we are under 1/2 at the present time — and falling.

    Bon

  • Spartacus

    ….

  • All I see in this rather pathetic article (by this ‘reporter’) are petty and childish remarks layered amongst a whole heap of waffle, insinuation, name calling and mute points.

    With people violently shoving signs in your face and the fact that you can lose your job for being “outed” as being “racist”, is it really any surprise that people are coy about their identity and paranoid about their photograph being taken?

    When you strip away the “clever” (and tired) cliché veneer, what exactly is his argument against what was said during the conference?

    There is not one given, is there?!. That is all we really need to know, I think.

    They cannot dispute what is being said, or counter what is being said, other than to suggest “it is wrong….well, because it is…..because we are all equals…and well…these people are pasty faced paranoid delusional ….”

    Maybe he, like his fellow Salon journalist in the other article, would like to prove that the statistics are not what we say they are and show how it, our presented scenario, is not going to happen?

    Maybe if they could do this, show us there is no trend to be concerned about, we could all give up, go home and look forward to the future! Until then, I think they will just have to keep writing these childish and sneering articles because I don’t think the NPI and others are going to give up any time soon.

  • Don’t understand all the hostility to comments expressed in this article other than that AmRen must be attracting a lot of disaffected CNN posters. Conferences like this appear as necessary to raise awareness for a white nation.

    Didn’t know that one can attend those meetings under a pseudonym. That makes attendence more likely given that one indeed could lose their job and be subject to public ridicule & IRS audits? upon attending. It’s a shame the Afrikanner movement was killed off: that’s what WILL happen here unless people are more supportive of white movements. That would then be a prelude to whites being killed off, just like they now are in Zimbabwe and South Africa.

  • Northern American-Nationalist

    “The assumption is that if they dress nice, people will follow Spencer
    and his fellow travelers on their road to a white ethno-state where
    pasty people can listen to Jack Johnson records and play Frisbee in
    glorious racial homogeneity.”

    . . . If she tried to slap that smug, simple-minded, mockery around me or on my cheek, I would sarcastically romantically sigh with a look of absent-minded longing on my face, and then I’d let her know that she’d be begging to be let in if that came to pass, but all that I would say right before I yell, “PASTY POWER” as she walks away.