California School Ban on U.S. Flag on T-Shirts Heads to Appeals

Cheryl K. Chumley, Washington Times, October 17, 2013

A Northern California school that banned a handful of students from wearing T-shirts that showcased the U.S. flag on the Hispanic-based holiday, Cinco de Mayo day, is headed to court Thursday, to defend their order that the now-graduated individuals go home and change.

The school’s argument during the 2010 matter was that racial tensions and gang problems plagued the student body at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, located 20 miles outside of San Jose, The Associated Press reported.

So when administrators caught wind that some of the altercations experienced on Cinco de Mayo day may have been rooted in the wearing of U.S. flag shirts by three students, their reaction was quick: Either turn the tees inside out, or go home and change, they told the kids, AP reported.

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The trio eventually sued, alleging their free speech and equal protection rights were violated.

A lower court tossed the suit in December of 2011, determining the school acted in the best interest of the student body at large. But the students—who have since graduated—didn’t drop the matter, and the case heads to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday.

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  • RebelliousTreecko

    The stars and stripes has been slowly on its way to becoming the new Confederate flag.

    • And of course as we found out today, the Confederate Flag might as well be the Swastika and the Washington Redskins logo.

      • So CAL Snowman

        Whoa whoa whoa slow down there Mr. Insensitive, it’s the Washington Football Franchise.

    • A Freespeechzone

      ONLY if WE allow them to do this to Old Glory…..

      I don’t plan to just stand by without action…

    • Jesse James

      Exactly what I was thinking when I read this article. Just in the past twenty years the Confederate Battle flag has gone from being a legitimate symbol of regional affiliation and heritage to being considered a symbol of hate. As such it has been driven from public display and the law considers it so offensive that they use it as a mitigating circumstance if a negro decides to attack you for displaying it. The schools were some of the first places to ban display of our battle flag. Ironic now that our own national flag is being attacked using the same methods. The same type of people are behind this movement. Now maybe some of you from the North will understand how it feels to have your cultural heritage defined by your enemies and banned by your own government. Not that I am trying to pick a fight with my northern brethren, there are too few of us in the world for us to continue to quarrel. An attack against any part of our cultural heritage and symbology is an attack against us all. This is what it means to become a minority in your own homeland.

      • Talltrees

        As a die-hard Northerner, the beautiful Confederate flag, a symbol of American history, does not bother me one bit. It’s foreign flags that enrage me.

        • Brian

          I’m kind of partial to the Golden Dawn flag these days.

    • Sick of it

      I prefer the Confederate flags to the 50 star flag. Now I could get behind one of the 13 star flags or our flag from 1812 or even during the war with Mexico, but the 50 star flag represents Communist America.

    • NM156

      The British Union Jack suffered a similar fate in the 1980s and hasn’t recovered its status.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Oh yeah. I fatigued myself on other sites for this article by going off on all of those liberals, mostly white virgin boys under 25 who still live with mom, and either have no job, or one that doesn’t require a high school diploma.
    From now on, May 5th is my new Flag Day.

    • Jesse James

      Thanks for taking on the drudgery of trying to explain to the brainwashed “the other side.” It may seem thankless but it helps them to know that not all intelligent people share the doctrine of the PC Cathedral.

  • The Heckler’s Veto.

  • MekongDelta69

    Only in America are you not allowed to be an American.

    Wouldn’t want to ‘offend’ the ‘perpetually oppressed’ crowd, would we now?

    • A Freespeechzone

      I would do EVERYTHING in my power to ‘offend’ ANYONE who has a problem with the display of the American Flag….too many have sacrificed their lives for it…unlike the dirty, despicable, traitorous pc politicians and no-value illegals who defile our flag.

      No Apologies.

    • Jkjljmt_Pqprpstt

      It’s for ALL white countries and ONLY white countries.

      J.P.

    • Why do you assume this is America?

      Do you really think the 101st Airborne in Little Rock was fighting for America?

      • MekongDelta69

        The last time I checked, Mexifornia is still part of America. I’ll let you know when it breaks off into the Pacific or gets returned to Mexico by Gov. Moonbeam.

    • MikeofAges

      Of course it is only in America that you are not allowed to be an American. Just remember, though. In France, you are not allowed to be French. In the UK, you are not allowed to be British. In Canada, you are not allowed to be Canadian. In Quebec you are not allowed to be Quebecer. In Australia, you are not allowed to be Australian. the list grows. It’s the new domino theory.

      One world is no world.

    • Sick of it

      It is pretty sad that a traditional American finds himself more welcome in foreign countries today than in his own.

  • Kids: Wear the Bonnie Blue and tell them to go screw themselves.

  • TheCogitator

    As I recall, they didn’t do anything to prohibit Mexicans from displaying their flag. It seems that the threat of violence is the deciding factor. The Mexicans threatened violence. When are we going to learn that if violence is what will get you your way that it is violence we must practice — and in a manner that others know never to cross us? Also we should show no mercy to the traitorous members of our own tribe.

    • Bonnie Blue.

    • William Krapek

      Yep. We threw out the First Amendment because the Mexicans warned us they would go to war. We are truly ruled by the pathetic.

  • kjh64

    Well not surprising seeing is how California is now Mexifornia.

    • Sick of it

      It must be majority Hispanic if over 25% of Americans today are Hispanic.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    So Mexicans are offended by an American flag, but they have NO problem accepting American taxpayer money for free educations, breakfasts and lunches, free medical care at any California hospital, free college tuition and driver’s licenses.

    They should be down on their hands and knees thanking us and what do we get? childish impudence, resentment and hostility.

    I think it’s time for Americans to ban Cinco de Mayo celebrations.

    How far this country has fallen! We have a 1st Amendment right to burn the flag or even stand on it:

    an art teacher at a Kentucky High School set up an exhibit where students were supposed to stand on an American flag while they wrote how they felt about it

    but no right to display it.

    • So CAL Snowman

      The sick thing is, you can be seriously injured or even killed in CA for “disrespecting” the mexican flag or mexico, but trashing America and banning American flag t-shirts is A-OK!

    • bigone4u

      Let’s upset the Mesicans by getting Congress to put the US flag on our money. Then, let’s upset them some more by cutting off their free money. I never signed a paper saying I was willing to support a Mexican family illegally living in the US. Did you?

    • Garrett Brown

      As always, very well stated Bon. The leeches are becoming too comfortable sucking our white blood.

  • Sick of it

    Liberal way to deal with gangs – Punish law abiding citizens
    American way to deal with gangs – Wipe out the gangs

  • So CAL Snowman

    “The school’s argument during the 2010 matter was that racial tensions
    and gang problems plagued the student body at Live Oak High School in
    Morgan Hill, located 20 miles outside of San Jose, The Associated Press
    reported.”

    I guess these kids didn’t get the memo that a diverse, integrated school will bring people together so that our SMALL differences will be papered over by our similarities.

  • Ban This.

  • Spartacus

    If the putos have a problem with the American flag, just wear a shirt with this on it :

    • bigone4u

      They’re too dumb to know what it means. Add the words “White Pride” and they would get it.

    • My wife has a T-shirt with their navy’s Rising Sun in black.

      • Garrett Brown

        Your wife is Asian, so she would look rather foolish with those shirts on.

  • Ariadne says she wants to be a jet pilot for the JMSDF. I’d like it if she was Japan’s first female carrier fighter pilot.

    • WR_the_realist

      Well, at least she’ll know which country she is fighting for. If you join the American military the only thing you can be sure of is that you’ll be fighting for some country other than the United States.

  • Sighisoara

    What? You can’t wear an American flag in America? This would be funny except that it’s not. Bizarro world.

  • bigone4u

    Instead of expelling and incarcerating the Mexican troublemakers, the whites are forced to turn their shirts inside out or get sent home. What a bunch of pansies the school adminstrators are. At my old school, the adminstrators knew how to kick butt. Grow some big ones you foolish school adminstrators.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Anti-Whites decided my country should be a 3rd world “melting pot,” I didn’t.

      My people didn’t – I didn’t vote for this, did you? There was NO public voting on the issue of opening up America’s floodgates to the 3rd world.

      What gave them the moral authority to flood the US, my country, with millions of non-White immigrants until we Whites, the founders and creators of this country, are minorities in our own home?

      Unless their agenda was to destroy the White race.

      • Jesse James

        Bon traitors flung the gates open in 1965 and have pushed them open wider and wider ever since. We have been betrayed by the corporations, the government, our schools and many of our fellow citizens. Never has there been a betrayal so widespread, so devious, so consistently worked for over decades, and so twistedly malevolently evil as that which has been perpetrated on white America.

        • Guest

          This war against whites started a long time ago. Here is a copy of that special order card from WWII in the European Theater. An uncle of mine kept it after he came home, I think because he was dismayed by the way the soldiers were ordered to treat German civilians.

          • Jesse James

            tried to enlarge this, not much luck

          • Jesse James

            Here is other side

          • Jesse James

            Perhaps I am making too much of this Special Order, it was issued before the end of fighting in Germany and on one hand I can see why instruction to our soldiers on their conduct towards the Germans they were increasingly having to interact with was needed. What caught my attention was that obviously the Army high command was concerned that our soldiers would have too much concern and fellow feeling for the defeated Germans. After all if my memory serves me correctly almost 1/3 of our population had at least some German ancestory at that time. We were many of us kin. There were many American’s servicemen at the time who spoke out against the harshness and questionable actions taken against German civilians and POWs at the end of the war. As the card states, our men needed to avoid “having pity for ‘victims of devastation'”.

          • I would never have followed even direct orders to harm civilians. I was reckoned the bravest man in the company against the Chetniks – some guys thought I was crazy – but I never hurt women, children or unarmed men. I think interaction with civilians of another warring nation should be avoided.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            As was General Patton:

            www // subvertednation // net/general-patton-discovered-the-truth/

          • Jesse James

            The more I read about General Patton the more I think he should be recognized as the first martyrdom in modern times of a real white nationalist patriot. I have come to believe that he was assassinated because General Eiseinhower knew he would not stop speaking out against our unholy alliance with the Soviets and the savage revenge that was being taken out on a defeated Germany.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Amazing how the history of WW II has been re-written and many atrocities covered up:

            General Eisenhower needed General Patton in order to win the war. But the outspoken Patton often bucked Ike, complaining loudly about his halt orders (which stopped Patton from liberating Eastern Europe before the Soviets could get there) and ignoring Ike’s orders to continue holding German prisoners after the war.

            As the Red Army rolled into Germany, Stalin encourages his men to rape German women. Ilya Ehrenberg, writes leaflets exhorting soldiers to kill and rape:

            . “Kill! Kill! In the German race there is evil; not one among the living, not one among the unborn is but evil! Follow the precepts of Stalin. Stamp out the fascist beast once and for all in its lair! Use force and break the racial pride of the German women. Take them as your lawful booty. Kill! As you storm onward, kill, you gallant soldiers of the Red Army.”

            The orgy of violence and rape is one of the ghastliest episodes in human history. Two million German females ranging in age from 8-80 will be gang raped and sodomized, often in view of their children. The most notable offenders are the the Jewish NKVD rear guard troops, and the Mongoloid troops from the Asian Republics of the USSR. Even the terrified women who had fled to churches and hospitals were hunted down and gang raped.
            Nuns, little girls, and elderly women are infected with venereal diseases. Thousands of German women commit suicide.

            Eisenhower, Truman, and the media are fully aware of the horror that the man they refer to as ‘Uncle Joe’ is inflicting upon these poor women.

            Meanwhile, in Eisenhower’s German POW camps:

            For 20 months after the German surrender, General Eisenhower continues to hold millions of German Prisoners-of-War. The men are inhumanely crowded into open-air camps without latrines, exposed to the elements and deliberately underfed. Germans dig holes for shelter and even take to eating grass.

            American guards who attempt to help the prisoners face severe disciplinary action. German civilians try to bring food and blankets to the men but are shot at by guards. Eisenhower issues an order stating that Red Cross officials are not to be given access to the camps.

            As disease, exposure, and hunger take their toll, the German losses mount daily. By the end of their cruel incarceration, as many as 1.7 million German prisoners will have died a slow and torturous death.

            And:

            After the war, the area of Germany historically known as Prussia ceases to exist. It is mostly transferred to Soviet occupied Poland and to the Soviet Union itself. Seven million Germans are expelled from their homes and forced to migrate west. Still more German territory is given to Soviet occupied Czechoslovakia, with 3 million more Germans expelled.

            Photos, documentation and sources here (some of which is behind a subscription wall):

            www // tomatobubble // com/index //html

          • Jesse James

            Yes and all these atrocities have been air brushed out of existence by the communist progressive left’s control of academia. It was in this orgy of communist and Jewish revenge and deconstruction that the modern Western anti-white movement was born.

            I have always found it ironic that although most possibly all historians point to the unfair and punitive measures of the Treaty of Versailles that ended WWI inevitably sparking the conditions that led to WWII. Yet no one speaks of the unquestionably harsher actions taken in the decade following the end of WWII. Imperial Germany didn’t face the humiliation and violence of mass rapes, long term military occupation, territorial fragmentation of the split into East and West Germany, decade long slavery of hundreds of thousands of its soldiery, deliberate starvation of POW’s and fire bombing of non-military urban areas.

            Indeed one could say the measures taken against the German people at the end of the Second World War were aimed at crushing the very soul, the animus, of Germany. Emboldened by their success those agents of the devil, the Communists and their favorite minions, now have turned their hell fire on the United States. If my Grandfather’s and Uncles had seen where fighting on the side of the communist would lead they would have stayed home and minded their own business.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          Nicely stated and so true.

          I couldn’t put it better than you or Kevin MacDonald who wrote the following:

          No one would think it unjustifiable if a people becomes angry when they are physically invaded, reduced to a minority, and their culture taken away from them. Although not the result of physical invasion, the end result of this… onslaught is exactly the same.

          There is no more grievous crime against a people than the crime being committed against White America. Righteous anger is an appropriate response indeed.

  • Reverend Bacon

    Don’t expect the 9th Circuit to do anything sane. If these kids want to keep pushing, it will have to go to the Supremes.
    Let’s hope they do, and let’s hope that good Americans like Sonia Sotomayor (an epsilon minus if ever there was) see fit to uphold the constitution.

    • Major

      You actually expect the AA “wise Latino” to go against her people? It’s what she’s there for. To make sure the illegals are treated “nice”.

      • Reverend Bacon

        LOL. The fact that you gave me a thumbs up tells me we both know what she’ll do, and we both know what I expect.
        And despite your comment making some sense, I am still not sure “what she’s there for.” Except to prove that AA has no glass ceiling.

        • Major

          ” I am still not sure “what she’s there for.”

          Diversity…the poison that killed America.

  • Xerxes22

    In a situation like this it is best to go after the people responsible. In this case it would be the principle of the high school. Target him. Call him, write him, put his name out there on the the web along with whatever personal info you can find out about him. These days, a computer savvy person can find out a lot about someone. Once these people find that actions have consequences and that they can no longer hide behind some bureaucratic or corporate anonymiity, they will think long and hard before they make a stupid decision like this.

  • IKantunderstand

    It’s clear that the flag of once was our country, no longer means anything to our so called new Americans. I understand, because it means nothing to me anymore. Once upon a time, I celebrated the flag and what it meant, I revered what it stood for: My flag stood for our constitution and our Bill of Rights. My flag stood for my country’s rebellion against an unfair dictatorship.My flag stood for our unity as a nation against our enemies in the first and the second world wars. Although, at this point, I am not convinced we fought on the right side.

    • 1976 was the greatest year this country ever saw. Sure, there were economic issues at the time, but every town in this country cerebrated it.

      • Garrett Brown

        No year after 65 is worth celebrating.

        • Major

          Ahh…I was there too.

  • Talltrees

    I wrote the principal of this school expressing my rage in 2011. If Mexicans are causing the conflict, what does that tell us? Throw them out? All White students should wear US flag shirts anyway regardless of the policy.

  • Talltrees

    Do we have one? If not, we need a drawing board.

    • Brian

      I like these.

      • Talltrees

        Like both, except change color of the Molon Labe. Second is very interesting.

        • Brian

          2nd is Grand Union flag, one of the early American ones, back when it was understood the country was Anglo-dominated.

          • Talltrees

            Hate to admit, don’t remember it, but do like it. Represents our British history.

            The snake bothers me, as well.

            Like the Golden Dawn flag, too, but……it does bring the negative aspects of the Swastika to mind. Since we are already called Nazi’s, this flag would confirm it in the minds of the left.

            The United States has a striking flag. Can’t miss it in a crowd of all other nations. We should just take it to represent Whites, since it actually does, but it is tainted now. No longer represents us.

  • Jesse James

    And so it goes with multi-culturalism. Negroes can’t handle the responsibility of owning a gun without chimping out and shooting everyone on the street so ALL Americans must give up their Second Amendment Rights. Our brown brothers criminalize “colors” by making them gang identifiers so now the rest of us, even those who are obviously not gang members shouldn’t wear certain colors. Blacks and Hispanics can’t pass minimal testing standards so we throw out merit based testing and promotions. Black men fail at the simplest test of decency and responsibility that human society has – parenting children – so the rest of us are taxed so much we can hardly afford to have children of our own all so Uncle Sugar can raise armies of little Trayvon’s. Living in early 21st Century America is a surreal experience and every single day the radicals push what little remains of our once great society closer to the edge of the abyss. No wonder the traditionalist say that there is nothing left for conservatives to conserve.

  • Jesse James

    Sadly I am almost there myself. Twelve years I served this country, pledged to defend the Constitution and our “freedom”. Now I don’t even recognize the place anymore. We have all become strangers in our own homeland.

  • NM156

    So Mexican students gangbang, white kids protest by wearing American flag shirts on a fake-o Mexican holiday, and the school responds to the problem by prohibiting the wearing of the shirts. The leftist morons just expect their idiocy to go unchallenged? How many millions in taxpayer money will be spent defending their case in the federal courts?

  • Sick of it

    Wow, they call Andy Jackson an Indian killer? He fought legitimate wars against people making war upon American citizens…then gave the defeated the option of becoming American citizens.

  • RHG

    “Hispanic-based holiday, Cinco de Mayo day”, this is absurd, this is a completely made up thing invented in America to sell things. It is not celebrated in Mexico and has only caught on lately be Mexican supremacists as a way having something to compete with the 4th of July.

    • Alexandra1973

      It should be our new Flag Day. Everyone wear red, white, and blue, get the flags out, wear your flag T-shirts.

      On July 4 let’s all head down to Mexico City for a HUGE Fourth of July bash. 🙂

      • Epiminondas

        And get shot down on the street? No thanks. They wouldn’t even bother to ship our bodies back.

  • Paleoconn

    Good. Wear the stars and bars on your t-shirt instead.

  • Epiminondas

    All you liberals who applauded when the Confederate flag was suppressed can now ponder the meaning of this new turn of events. Did you not think your turn was coming? More fool you.

    • I think they do know that turn was coming, because I think they intended it.

    • Garrett Brown

      I don’t think many liberals want to keep the American flag. They aren’t saddened by this news.

    • itdoesnotmatter

      I hope it is alright with the moderator that I post this.
      Among my grandmother’s genealogical effects, a copy of this letter home from her great uncle a soldier fighting in the South during the War of Northern Aggression.
      Take note of his not capitalizing african or negro, and the prescient statement about another war looms ahead. This kid knew then that blacks were murderous thugs.
      The letter is obviously written with a quill and ink, the script in beautiful cursive. I would post a copy of that, but it’s too hard to make out some of the words.

      Camp Decatur Ala August 26th 1865
      Dear Father,
      Yours of the 18th was just received. It found me well & hearty enjoying the chivalry of camp life as usual. Just returned from a tramp in the country yesterday eve. Had quite a jolly time among those Ala. Johnnies during my stay (of four days), but upon my return have not found things as well as when I left. On Saturday the 24th I returned found all in an uproar.
      The first news I hear is the death of an amiable young man. Capt Dobson of Co D the Provost M- at Summerville 20 ms south of Decatur was brutally murdered by an African. He, the african was or had been chopping wood & just returned to the tavern where he belonged, walked up in the rear of the Capt who was sitting between two other Reb officers discussing the question of what shall become of the negroes, and struck him in the top of the head with the blade of the ax, killing the Capt Instantly.
      Leaving the ax remain where it struck, he tried to make his escape by running. But one of the men close by the Capt seeing the deed done, caught the negro and kept him in custody until the unfavorable news could be brought to the Regt.
      Immediately, he was ordered to Decatur, where he was kept in irons until this day Sunday. While thus kept, he confessed the deed also told who it was that introduced the idea. The man’s name is Luna, a highwayman or horse thief & murderer. The negro was executed by men sent immediately.
      Father, I fear that blood letting has not yet ceased. That there is more surplus that will keep in demand until the Country is thoroughly purged. Was in great hopes that hostilities had ceased and we could live in peace once more. But if I am not mistaken there is more war close at hand but from a different source. Yet hope I may be mistaken. For of a truth, I am tired of war. Yet, there is something fascinating in its romance. If it be but in the blood of a fellow being tis a hard story but a true one while in battle. There is not now any prospect of us coming home before the expiration of our term which is rolling away
      as fast as the wheels of time revolves which is now but 6 months at most. The election in this state comes off next Saturday. After that I cannot conceive any use of so large an army as there will be in the state. I suppose [union] President Johnson knows or will know by that time what will be done. I am glad to hear of the prospect of corn. Would be glad to be at home to help sow wheat but fear it is impossible. Have not much to write at present so will close.
      Your Son, George of Co F

  • Rick Brooks

    How many of these gang-bangers are illegal aliens and anchor babies? 19 years ago California residents voted 59% in favor of Proposition 187, a measure which would have barred illegals from free public education, among other things. Within days, a Jimmy Carter appointed judge overturned the will of millions of voters and subsequently decided to keep the measure bogged down in her court for several years. Then traitor democrat Gray Davis became governor and had the measure destroyed behind closed doors at the behest of the Mexican president.

  • DaveMed

    Strangers in our own country.

    Hopefully, the students have learned from this just how meaningless the American flag is at the moment, and will join the real fight to regain its meaning.

  • SFLBIB

    When you live in a country, you have to expect to see its flag now and then. If the sight of it is so offensive, find another country.