Many Asian Americans Are as Segregated by Neighborhood as Latinos

Emily Alpert, Los Angeles Times, June 25, 2013

People with Chinese or Vietnamese roots are as segregated as Latinos in neighborhoods nationwide, a study from Brown University has found. In Los Angeles and Orange counties, the pattern is even more extreme—and has grown more so over the last two decades.

But the same study suggests that that may not necessarily be a problem. In many cities, some Asian Americans live in neighborhoods that appear “separate but equal,” with incomes and education levels as high or higher than largely white neighborhoods, researchers said.

That contrasts sharply with the dismal history of segregation for Latinos and blacks in the U.S., said John R. Logan, a Brown University professor of sociology. The flourishing of many Chinese, Indian and Korean neighborhoods may be what keeps people there from moving into more integrated areas.

If your neighborhood is doing well, “where would the motive be to change?” asked Logan, co-author of the study. “There may in fact be a strong element of separation in the future.”

It’s no surprise that immigrants gravitate toward “ethnoburbs,” suburban areas such as Monterey Park that are filled with ethnic businesses. “You can read the newspaper, listen to the radio, buy a house from a real estate agent, go to a doctor and get your groceries from people who speak your language,” said Linda Vo, a professor of Asian American studies at UC Irvine.

What’s interesting is that at least some of their children have stayed, even as they integrate into American life, Vo said.


Researchers measured segregation using an “index of dissimilarity” based on Census Bureau data, gauging how whites and Asian Americans were spread across areas.

{snip} Vietnamese, Indian and Chinese Americans are as separated from whites where they live as are Latinos. Japanese Americans are the least residentially segregated.


Brown University researchers also discovered that Asian Americans in Los Angeles and Orange counties lived in neighborhoods with lower household incomes, on average, than those of whites. That makes the Los Angeles area different from the average metropolitan area in the U.S., where median household incomes for Asian American neighborhoods rival or exceed those of white areas, one reason researchers call the neighborhoods “separate but equal.”


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  • The__Bobster

    But the same study suggests that that may not necessarily be a problem. In many cities, some Asian Americans live in neighborhoods that appear “separate but equal,” with incomes and education levels as high or higher than largely white neighborhoods, researchers said.

    It’s okay with the libtards because the Asians don’t have to poach on YT to survive. In fact, they might be alarmed if YT moves into their Chinatowns.

    • stewball

      So you’re all living in ghettos. European Jews have great knowledge of ghettos right back to Shakespeare’s time and probably before. I’m sure the whites don’t want Asians living in their area. They’re scared that Asian kids will do so much better than theirs at school and take the University places. God bless America.

    • John Liu

      What’s the big deal. The Asians are living among themselves, just as the European ethnics use to.

  • The__Bobster

    “You can read the newspaper, listen to the radio, buy a house from a real estate agent, go to a doctor and get your groceries from people who speak your language,” said Linda Vo, a professor of Asian American studies at UC Irvine.

    Damn, I wish I could do that, but I speak English.

    • JDInSanDiego

      She can do all of that in Vietnam too.

    • The article covers Chinese and Vietnamese. I was under the impression that Mandarin, Cantonese and Vietnamese were different languages.

      Last I checked, there is no such language as “Asian”.

      • stewball

        Of course there’s an Asian language just like English. There’s British English, American English O:-), Australian English etc etc but of course Bernard Shaw didn’t believe Americans speak ‘English’
        And so say all of us. But I do agree regarding the influx of immigrants and so called assume seekers. It’s a shame that so many things ask for asylum when they don’t need it thereby spoiling thingsfor real asylum seekers.

        • John Liu

          Those are different dialects of the same language, in fact they could hardly even be called that.

          There is no such language as Asian, just as there is no such language called European.

  • I say we should force Asians to embrace black and Mexican Diversity, whether they want to or not.

    • baldowl

      “Xian, meet LaSquisha. Lasquisha, eat Xian.”

      • JackKrak

        Can’t wait for the inter-marriages – DeMarcarius Nguyen, Van Ho Washington, Le’Trecia Wang, etc.

        • pcmustgo

          Half black /half Asians can come out surprisingly Asian looking.

        • pcmustgo

          FILIPINO WOMEN *LOVE BLACK MEN… Filipinos are the more “ghetto” asians.

        • stewball

          You know that people will intermarry eventually and everybody will be the same.

          • David Ashton

            You do not know this. The idea that the populations of China and Japan will voluntary cross with west Africans and produce a uniformly identical race is a fantasy.

          • stewball

            And whites. It’s already happening the world over. I obviously meant those already in the country.Are trying to be obtuse on purpose.

          • David Ashton

            Yes, the problem is inside the western societies, as I have said several times in previous posts. The result of crossing the primary races is a hodge-podge of phenotype characters, as in Brazil, rather than an identical uniformity.

          • stewball

            Yes of course.

    • RebelliousTreecko

      I wouldn’t mind that at the moment.
      Misery does love company.

      But why stop at Orientals?

  • bigone4u

    How dare Asians think they have the right to their own neighborhoods. Obama, Holder, Section 8 those arrogant Asians. Send in a million Somalis and Abos so that Asians understand that they too must be enriched by diversity.

    • borogirl54

      Most English speaking Asians such as Japanese Americans and Filipinos tend to live in predominately white neighborhoods. Gardena, California used to be predominately Japanese American at one time, but as more and more blacks moved to the area, Japanese Americans moved to Orange county.

  • Germanacus


    • Germanacus

      Okay, since disqus automatically embeds linked photos, my comments that include a link must be moderated before appearing to make sure I don’t post what, a nude woman or something? Understood.

  • Germanacus

    Well this should be no real surprise as different racial groups normally prefer their own kind. Unless of course college admissions or $ is somehow involved. Then diversity is of utmost importance.

  • MadMike

    Liberal Professors have pretty much hijacked the Social Sciences. A Sociology class (Social Problems) I had about 6 years ago the Professor was talking about Asians and how they were more successful and superior to whites in various surveys.
    I disagreed with many of his points pointing out that white countries were often more Innovative with happier citizens and may final point was this, If Asians are so superior why did the Japanese lose WW2. Bad Mistake, Half the class was shouting, the few whites in the class showed no backbone and the Professor was the ringleader of this circus. From that point on I learned to keep my mouth shut in class.

    • bigone4u

      You can look it up on wikipedia if you like or take my word for it, but the Japanese practiced cannabalism on dead American GIs during WWII. It’s a little known fact that would have had your libt*rd prof needing a change of underwear.

      • George

        Check out the book ‘Flyboys’ by James Bradley. He notes that American prisoners were deliberately executed on Chichi Jima for the purposes of cannibalism (when food was otherwise abundant).
        The officers involved were executed after the war. They picked up the habit during their time in China.
        Bradley also references (but sadly doesn’t dwell on) the Nisei who fought for the Emperor of Japan against the United States. The pro-Japanese prof is probably completely unaware of the number of US-born Japanese who took up arms against the United States, whilst blissfully browbeating whites for the ‘horror’ of interning them.

    • The Final Solution

      If Asians are so superior, then why are the only rich Asian countries Japan and South Korea? Southeast Asia has quite a few of the poorest and most undeveloped countries in the world – Cambodia, Myanmar, Vietnam, North Korea, Mongolia, Thailand, Laos….they are not more intelligent than whites, I don’t care what anyone says.

      • The Final Solution

        I forgot India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.

        • Anonymous White

          How on Earth are those people the same race as North-East Asians?

          • The Final Solution

            I never said they were the same race – last time I looked at a map or opened a book India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh were in Asia.

          • Anonymous White

            Okay but you know which “Asians” the article is talking about, so mentioning India is kind of going off topic.

          • Korean guy

            And Korean, Japanese and Chinese are all distinct and unique races as well

          • Anonymous White

            You’re splitting hairs.

      • HJ11

        I agree that they are not more intelligent than Whites. What I’ve observed is that they have passive/assertive personalities. In school, they are the ones who polish the apples for the teachers. At home, their parents often do their homework for them. The passive part of their personalities makes them very open to whatever is being taught and they silently take it in, sponge like. Whites, on the other hand, are generally more assertive/assertive and we are natural sceptics. Many Whites don’t just sit like sponges, but question everything to the point of being peevish.

      • Sick of it

        Average IQs of Asians in their home countries has been shown to be lower than those studied in western countries.

        • John Liu

          Really? Can you substantiate this statement?

          I have a feeling that you cannot. You are obviously envious of Asians. There is no need to be. Asians will benefit all of America.

          For one, Mr Taylor has said that Asians have about 1/4 the crime rate of whites.

          Therefore if you increase the Asian population, crime rates will fall, and mean IQ increase.

          • Sick of it

            lmao I’m not envious of the average or above average member of any ethnic group. That’s where so many of the low info voters come from…no offense.

          • David Ashton

            How many “Asians” do you think the USA “needs”?

          • David Ashton

            I think Jared Taylor may be mistaken about the level of crimes INSIDE the Chinese communities, and have given detailed documentation on this in replies to John Engelman in earlier posts.

          • John Liu

            Really? Jared Taylor has detailed documentation on crimes INSIDE Chinese communities —that the police do not have?

            Chinese in the US have about 1/4 the murder rate of whites. If this is not the case, they must be burying a whole lot of bodies underneath the floorboards in Chinatowns all over the country.

            You and Mr Taylor obviously know something that everyone else does not.

          • David Ashton

            I do not intend to dig out my files on this. Check back through the Index to the books and articles I quoted more than once to Engelman.

      • Funruffian

        Japan, China and Korea are the upper caste Asians. The rest like the Filipinos, Vietnamese, and Laotians are lower caste with lower IQ’s.

      • John Liu

        East Asians such as Chinese, Japanese, and Koreans are as different from South East Asians, in fact more genetically different from South East Asians, than whites are different from North African caucacoids.

        All East Asian countries are doing very well with low levels of crime, high living standards, relatively low levels of corruption compared to Europe, and are by and large superior in most measures to Western countries.

        Exception is of course China and North Korea, the former because of over a century of Western subjugation, the latter, partly because of taking ideology to an absurd extreme.

        • David Ashton

          China has a problem not from “subjugation” by western powers but because of the three-way war beween the Japanese invaders, the Kuomintang and the Maoists, especially the latter as a result of its man-made famine and “cultural revolution”. The westernisation of South Korea has probably been of net benefit.

    • brengunn

      Why exactly were they so upset at the thought of white superiority in WW2? Or why should they be upset at white superiority in any other arena?

      The simple truth of it is, is that most of these professors and students who balk at the idea of white superiority actually acknowledge it in most areas of their lives but simply cannot verbalize it. For example, you would be hard pressed to find an intellectual who finds African or Asian literature to be above that of European and European diaspora literature. The same goes for film, though there have certainly been Japanese greats, science, technology, industry etc. By all of these metrics white Europeans can be judged to be above all other ethnic groups upon the earth yet to acknowledge it is a sin.

      This is one of the central lies of modern existence. We cannot even take pride in our forefathers deeds for fear of hurting someone else’s feelings. We have to atone for their sins yet we are forbidden from celebrating their successes. Yes, they conquered lands, and yes sometimes it was brutal but look at all the good they did. Eradicating diseases, lifting millions from poverty, giving the world a better life than they ever had before. NO, I will not be ashamed of such greatness.

      • Sick of it

        I’m always willing to give the Japanese credit where credit is due, but it’s not like they figured out western science on their own or even invented the same parallel to our developments. They were exposed to “Dutch learning” and technology in the middle ages. Ever since we opened up Japan (by force), they have learned a great deal about modern science and technology from us. Capable people, but still.

    • Libs took over because conservatives are anti-intellectual and don’t produce a lot of bookworms. Most cons would rather play with guns than with pens. Pen is mightier than the gun in a civilization.

      • Evidently you never met anyone like me in that place that used to be like Haiti with nukes.

      • Evette Coutier

        Most intellectual conservatives find work in business and industry, whereas most intellectual liberals hide in academics. It’s simple really. Conservatives do not hide from the competitive workforce that holds them accountable for their success and failures. Liberals want a world where there is no personal accountability, so they seek academic and government jobs so they can live in a fantasy world with no consequences for failure.

        • tech

          Reminds me of ‘Those that can do, those that can’t teach’.

    • Xerxes22

      You should have asked your professor if Asians are superior to Blacks. That would have freaked him out trying to give a pc answer without upsetting his pets.

    • JohnEngelman

      If Asians are so superior why did the Japanese lose WW2?

      – MadMike

      They were fighting all of China, as well as half of Great Britain and half of the United States. In other words they were badly outnumbered. Also, Japan lacks natural resources.

      Ask something difficult next time.

      • k8

        Kind of like how Napolean lost to the Russians even though the Russians were ridiculously incompetent. Eventually, it becomes a numbers game and your soldiers all get decimated via attrition.

      • Shipping, as in “Unrestricted Submarine Warfare”.

        Ask a military historian something difficult next time, John E.

      • BonusGift

        Hey, let’s try to keep the reinvention of history to a minimum. They were hardly fighting “half of Great Britain and half of the United States”. I know it’s hard for you to deal with the truth here but you must be kidding. The Japanese had largely defeated the Chinese (although lacking in oil in China, at least they had access to the raw materials they desired in China, and controlled Marchuria, Korea and a good portion of the rest of China) and were focused on taking advantage of the fact that the U.K. and the U.S. were focused on Germany. After Pearl Harbor both the U.S. and U.K. decided to focus the bulk of man and material to defeat Germany first (the first cut was something like around 90% to Europe and 10% against Japan; in reality it was about 15%, i.e., after the initial American effort to check the Japs where the U.S. logically focused mostly of the immediate naval threat). It was never the case that without Germany winning in Europe did the Japs realistically have a chance, which they clearly did not realize (talk about stupid). They were deathly afraid of actually having to fight the Russians and the Russians were happy to focus on the Germans (big mistake). If the Japs had had the kind of attention that the Germans warranted it would have been likely a much faster and uglier defeat for them. The fact is that Japan grossly overestimated its strength and ability to handle YT (read, e.g., “The First Team” on how the Japs seemed to refuse to learn from their mistakes while the ‘stupid’ Americans learned from Pearl Harbor and most every major encounter thereafter).

  • APaige

    So segregation has a negative impact on the social conditions of blacks and Hispanics, but not on whites and Asians. I guess that segregation is not to blame? It must be culture. As a side note last week there was a report on the most dangerous cites in the U.S, and a pro-black news site tried to correlate (more causation) crime and segregation. Segregation is not the cause of crime or failing schools.

    • Spartacus

      “It must be culture.”

      No. It’s race, pure and simple. Culture is just a by-product of race.

  • HJ11

    We Whites (at least the weak seeds among us) have for too long believed that all humans are really White people under different color paint jobs and that they all want to be just like us. As a result of this false thinking, too many of us say and believe “I’m just an American, don’t put any hypens with it.”

    Once one has that type of thinking as a mindset, all sorts of bad things can result–such as thinking that people are fungible and that what made America great was not as a White race, but because we have a particular constitution, etc.

    We need to circle the wagons and we need to start staying with our own kind–the White kind–in thought and deed.

    • John Liu

      Return to Europe then.

      • kjh64

        HJ11 is an American, this is his country. Why don’t you return to China? America is NOT your country. This is why Whites have been foolish in letting resentful non-Whites into our nations.

        • John Liu

          Sorry. It is my country. What is one’s is what is legally deemed and enforceable as one’s.

          I own my car because it is recognised under the law, and if someone tried to take it off me, the law will defend my right to my car. This is regardless of whatever any individual thinks.

          The law recognises me as an American citizen with all the privileges and benefits pertaining to that. If at such time the law changed to not recognise me as American, then I would cease to be American.

          But that day is as unlikely to come for me as it is for you.

          Therefore I am an American. And a proud one who is not resentful of whites at all –afterall how could I be? I married a beautiful white woman and we have two biracial children.

  • brengunn

    What is the problem? Segregation? Economic disparities? What? And why are these problems seen to be a symptom of living in white society?

    The truth is, is that people want to live with their own, whether this be their racial own, their economic own, their cultural own etc. This is a natural human trait that has been treated as something that white people created to hurt other peoples.

  • Lots of white liberals are segregated in gentrified whitopias in places like Portland. Lots of Washington DC have cleared out the blacks and made room for rich whites and homos. it happens all around.

  • Sick of it

    Brandeis should have been shipped back to Bohemia, NOT installed on the Supreme Court! People like him ruined our country.

  • The g Factor

    The same is happening in parts of Australia. Walk around in the Sydney suburbs of Cabramatta and Canley Vale and you see very few whites, no Middle Easterners, Moslem or otherwise, and no Indians. At least 90% of the people you do see are East Asian, mainly Chinese or Vietnamese.

    • John Liu

      Really —wow, what a revelation.

      And if I go to a Chinese restaurant I will see mostly Chinese, little Italy, I will see many Italians, and if one goes to a gay bar, one will see plenty of gays.

      • kjh64

        Well, if it’s no big deal, why isn’t China, Japan, Korea etc. allowing huge numbers of immigrants in that are changing the racial makeup of their cities?

  • pcmustgo

    Yeah, as I’ve said on here before, those from cities without large Asian populations are clueless as to how unassimilated, and racially cliquish East Asians and Indians are…. I barely see any more Asians intermingling socially with whites (outside of the office) as Blacks.

    I live in NYC… TONS of Asians.

    • But they’re not all from the same ethnicity. Colorado Springs has plenty of Koreans, Boulder has lots of Chinese, my wife is Japanese, and they honestly all hate each other in a fashion that went out of style in Europe in the early 18th century.

      To the extent that European colonization of the Western Hemisphere was a success, we “whites” (I use the term loosely) mainly got over that. Europe has finally been relieved from turning the endless millstone of war.

      Was it? There is still Islam.

      • Anonymous White

        Please tell me you haven’t had kids.

    • Jefferson

      I live in San Francisco, which has a much HIGHER percentage of Asians than New York City and I still see plenty of Asian female/White male interracial couples here.

      • pcmustgo

        I just got back from a night out in a yuppie area and saw TONS of asian female/white male interracial couples. But that’s not the only marker of assimilation. The rest are unassimilated.

  • Rhialto

    Note that this article does not distinguish between segregation by law, and segregation reflecting the preferences of people to live with their own kind. This is exactly what I expect from the liberals.

    • kjh64

      Exactly. The correct term should be self-imposed segregation and all races, in general, prefer to live mostly around their own kind.

  • BonusGift

    Wealth that is generated by lying, cheating, and stealing isn’t really something YT would be proud of, your average Han maybe but not your average YT. I’m not sure what you mean by “societal wealth” but equating it with some index reported in Wikipedia (and based on government derived values) is probably not a smart thing to do. I would suggest a good measure of human success is how often they are copied by other groups on non-fashion related things (e.g., tools and techniques vs. say rap music). A group can copy another and create some kind of measurable “wealth” yet be unable to create any wealth because they simply lack that ability.

  • Snow

    I did see Asian boy / Black girl couples and black guy / Asian girl couples several times, but it still was rare. They appeared to be, at most, in their late teens and they just appeared to be “experimenting” rather than “making lifelong pledges with each other”

  • JohnEngelman

    Asian girls are a status symbol. Those black guys probably make a lot of money. Moreover, they make it legally. Otherwise an Asian girl would not get involved with one.

    • Magician

      John Koreanman

  • HJ11

    It’s often a subconscious belief. Scratch the surface of aracial Whites who delight in telling everyone within earshot (and especially if there are Blacks present) that they don’t see skin color or that skin color doesn’t mean anything.

    Implied in such statements is the other cliche that we are all the same under these different paint jobs.

    However, the unspoken belief is that the (supposed) universal sameness under the skin is White and that if non-Whites don’t act like Whites it’s often because they are victims of bigoted Whites who can’t see the inner Whiteness, just struggling to get out.

  • Anonymous White

    There’s no way those “training sessions” do anything to “eliminate racism and bigotry” in someone who’s already aware.

  • These are thus not “immigrants”. They are colonists.

  • Magician

    One of the reasons S. Korea and Japan are enjoying economic prosperity….

    I heard USA poured loads of money into S. Korea following the WW2 to bring economic stability into that land in order to prevent USSR from “swallowing” South Korea just like it did North Korea. USA also poured a lot of money into W Germany to prevent W Germany from being swallowed by USSR following the WW2. It was called the Marshall Plan. And now, Germany is one of the greatest economical powers on earth.

    And it is well-known that several countries make very large amounts of profits when there are wars. They are the opportunists. (Japan)

  • pcmustgo

    More conformist, quiet, less expressive, boring.

    • Jefferson

      Funny because Blacks believe Whites are boring. I notice that lower I.Q groups tend to label higher I.Q groups as boring.

      • pcmustgo

        Jefferson, do you have an Asian wife yet? Why not? Also, I am from the highest IQ group, the Jews , and another high IQ European group, and I STILL find Asians to be boring. Jews are generally viewed as being very colorful and funny. Of course there are boring whites too, but I’m just making a generalization here.

        • John Liu

          maybe you find asians boring, as asians find whites boring.

          Cantonese people for one, are some of the most earthy, humourous and lively people on earth—-far more so than your average white hide bound by convention and rules.

          Cantonese humour is whacky and slapstick, but of course the average white would be completely oblivious to that as is the average Gansu peasant oblivious to the ideas of American Renaissance.

  • pcmustgo

    Japanese most polite in my experience. Others rude and have “asian attitude”.

  • pcmustgo

    To be fair, Russians in Brooklyn do this too. But they do not resent “white people”

  • Magician

    I am fully convinced that black men find Asian women very attractive. A few black men even blatantly told me that they are fine if they do not ever get to date a white woman in their lives, but they would do anything it takes to date an Asian woman at some point in their lives.

    • Funruffian

      You can’t blame them for being attracted to a better looking race. After all, Negro females rank at the very bottom of desirability. Even if Hollyweird tries to squeeze that 8% into pop-culture status, it still has little effect on the men of other races.

    • David Ashton

      There was an organic adjustment problem, to put it tactfully, between black US soldiers and Japanese girls.

  • Dutchman

    It’s still remarkable and difficult to explain how their three or so IQ points ahead translated to the Westerners being ahead so far by the 19th Century. By the 1860’s, when Europe forced open Japan, the Western powers were so far ahead it was like H.G. Wells’ “War of the Worlds.” China was still using wooden sailing ships invented at least 1000 years previously while in the West steam-powered vessels were well under way along with ironclads and breech-loading steel cannon.

  • John Liu

    Sorry buddy, not much you can do now, the US is 65% white and 35% non-white.
    We have simply got to the stage where we have to find a way to ‘get along’.

    I’m doing my bit—I have a beautiful white wife and multiracial children.

    • kjh64

      Sorry buddy but a large portion of the non-Whites here are not Americans but foreign nationals, either here legally or illegally, so the percentage of American citizens who are White is much higher. There is plenty Whites can do if they have the will to do it. However, as far as getting along, no multiracial and multicultural societies do not and will not get along because multiculturalism does not work. Many Blacks resent Asians, Hispanics and Whites and vice versa.

      • John Liu

        It is you who is way off base buddy.

        Firstly the vast majority of Asian people live in Asia. The same cannot be said for white people, who are spread all over the globe.
        Perhaps if most Anglo Saxons had remained in Britain, and that was the only Anglo Saxon place on earth, your argument might contain a seed of logic.

        Look at it this way. Black Americans have every much right as whites to be in America and feel comfortable in America. In fact they could say—-it is not fair, whites are still the overwhelming majority —lets let more black Africans in so that we (ie blacks) can feel more comfortable in the US.

        To my mind blacks if they were so inclined to make a demand have at least as much right to demand more blacks in the US so they feel comfortable and not a minority as whites have to prevent same from happening.

        Another thing, about multi-racial societies—–there is no evidence that they are inherently more violent or unstable than monoracial societies. After all Europe was completely monoracial right up until 40 or 50 years ago —–yet that has not stopped Europeans from hating on each other, killing each other, and fighting one another in some of the most destructive wars in human history. There is no evidence to suggest that a multi-racial Europe will turn out any worse than what monoracial Europe was in the past.

        • kjh64

          “Firstly the vast majority of Asian people live in Asia. The same cannot be said for white people, who are spread all over the globe”

          White people only make up 9% of the world’s populace. They are not spread out all over the globe. Asia is the word’s largest continent. Anyways, who lives where is not relevant.

          “To my mind blacks if they were so inclined to make a demand have at least as much right to demand more blacks in the US so they feel comfortable and not a minority”

          They have absolutely no right to demand any such thing, Do Whites, the tiny amount there are in China, have the right to demand more Whites be brought in so they can feel more comfortable? Does the small Muslim minority in China have the right to demand more Muslims in China?

          “Another thing, about multi-racial societies—–there is no evidence that they are inherently more violent or unstable than monoracial societies.”

          Racial and ethnic conflicts have caused huge conflicts all over the globe since the beginning of time. You are ignoring history. There is plenty of evidence, if one cares to face reality, which you don’t, that multiracial societies have far more internal tension as you have resentment of minorities towards the majority(you’re a classic example), different racial groups arguing politically over whose racial group runs things, culture clashes.

          “After all Europe was completely monoracial right up until 40 or 50 years ago —–yet that has not stopped Europeans from hating on each other, killing each other”
          Of course people of the same race have gone to war with other countries whose people are of the same race. European nations vs other European nations, Japan vs China etc. I am talking about INTERNAL conflict or increased tensions and balkenization WITHIN a country. This conflict doesn’t have to be violent. European nations, individually, are much worse off after allowing mass immigration. They have much more conflict, crime and problems, so does America.

          • John Liu

            Oh my god. The ridiculous old trope about the dwindling number of whites in the world.

            Here is a fact dude. The number of whites in the world is around1.1 to 1.2 billion. East Asians about 1.4 billion.

            So whites are the second most numerous race in the world and are giving East Asians a run for their money.

            And yes —I mean whites in the Amren sense.

            There are more whites than blacks in the world.

            True endangered races:

            Australian aborigines

            NZ Maori

            Native Americans




            Now where is your evidence that multiracial societies are inherently worse off than monoracial societies.

          • David Ashton

            What about South Asians, Arabs and Amerindians?

        • David Ashton

          Quite true that membership of a similar race has not prevented conflict in history. That is why the fantasy of a global single mixed race would not be the solution to war and conflict.
          The presence of incompatible ethnic groups, especially recent immigrants, in societies can provoke conflict; the evidence is world-wide and historical. As for compulsory multi-racialism and multi-culturalism imposed in recent decades on the USA, Canada, Britain, France and other formerly predominantly white nations, consult studies like Professor Emeritus Byron Roth’s “The Perils of Diversity” (2010).

  • John Liu

    Perhaps the reason Amren is not so condemning of Asians in general and also Asian females with white males isbecause of Jared Taylor’s time in Japan. You can’t get me to believe that he spent his formative yearsand youth in that country and was never once attracted to a Japanese female.

    Indeed I did read years ago that he did have a relationship with a Japanese woman. When he went to Halifax Canada, he was questioned if he had ever had an interracial relationship—and he famously lost his composure.

    • David Ashton

      You can find this or that non-white person attractive, but not therefore expect to produce children with them.

  • John Liu

    Absolute hogwash —now you say not many Asians on the very right side of the bell cure——have you evidence of this. Please post a link.

    The Ivy League composition would tell you the very opposite I’m afraid.

    98% of everythign created by whites? Absolute rubbish. The most important advances were made by non-whites/

    Just one obvious example. The decimal point, the decimal system and arabic numerals.

    How far do you think science would have gone if whites had remained using cumbersome roman numerals and their fingers and toes for calculations?

  • David Ashton

    So Englishmen are not white now.
    This site is getting sillier and sillier.