Right-wing Historian Shoots Himself in Notre Dame Cathedral

Sam Webb, Daily Mail (London), May 21, 2013

A right-wing historian shot himself dead in front of hundreds of tourists at the altar of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris today, apparently in protest at France’s legalisation of gay marriage.

Dominique Venner, who had recently been campaigning against gay marriage in France, is said to have calmly walked past the crowds milling around the 850-year-old Cathedral, one of the most popular tourist sites in the world, before taking out a Herstal automatic pistol.

The 78-year-old put the gun in his mouth and fired before collapsing on to the altar, according to French media reports.

Mr Venner, who was awarded a prestigious prize by l’Académie française for one of his historical works,  was a former member of the Secret Army Organisation (OAS), the paramilitary group which fought against France giving up Algeria as a colony.

He was jailed for 18 months in La Santé Prison as a political undesirable for his role in the ultra-national organisation and was freed in 1962.

A report by Europe 1 radio station reads: ‘According to our information, he is Dominique Venner, essayist and former member of the OAS who was close to the anti-gay marriage movement.’

The Cathedral was full of visitors when the horrific incident took place, at around 4pm.

‘There was screaming and lot so shouting following a loud bang,’ said one witness. ‘People were naturally very scared and began to run out in panic.

‘Police and other emergency workers including firemen got here very quickly, and then the whole cathedral was evacuated.’

An unidentified police source said Mr Venner carried a letter on his person but made no declaration before shooting himself dead in the mid-afternoon, reports Reuters.

Notre Dame, which dates back to the 12th Century, has become a battleground for those fighting over homosexual marriage, with demonstrations regularly held around it.

Mr Venner, an ultra-right wing Catholic, was known to be extremely angry when a law allowing gay marriage across France was finally given the seal of approval earlier this month.

According to the International Business Times, Venner wrote: ‘The demonstrators of May 26 [against the law allowing gay marriage in France] will be right to shout their impatience and rage. A law steeped in infamy, once voted, can always be voided.’

Last week another male pensioner pensioner walked into the foyer of a nursery in Paris and blasted himself to death with a sawn-off shotgun in front of children.

Around a dozen pupils – some as young as five – and one teacher at the private school close to the Eiffel Tower witnessed the horrific events.

‘I thought there were terrorists who had guns and were coming into the school. Then I saw the man on the ground with a lot of blood,’ said one five-year-old witness.

Many of those who witnessed today’s carnage were expected to be treated by psychiatrists specialising in sudden trauma.

Notre Dame has seen a number of suicides in its long history, but most of them have been people who jumped from the towers.

This year the cathedral got new bells as part of celebrations marking 850 years since construction on the cathedral began.

Regularly scheduled guided visits of the world-famous gothic cathedral were taking place at the time of the incident, according to the church’s website.

[Editor’s Note: For the real reasons behind Mr. Venner’s suicide, see the translation of his suicide note below, reproduced from Counter-Currents. Also relevant is this translation of the final post on his website.]

I am healthy in body and mind, and I am filled with love for my wife and children. I love life and expect nothing beyond, if not the perpetuation of my race and my mind. However, in the evening of my life, facing immense dangers to my French and European homeland, I feel the duty to act as long as I still have strength. I believe it necessary to sacrifice myself to break the lethargy that plagues us. I give up what life remains to me in order to protest and to found. I chose a highly symbolic place, the Cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris, which I respect and admire: she was built by the genius of my ancestors on the site of cults still more ancient, recalling our immemorial origins.

While many men are slaves of their lives, my gesture embodies an ethic of will. I give myself over to death to awaken slumbering consciences. I rebel against fate. I protest against poisons of the soul and the desires of invasive individuals to destroy the anchors of our identity, including the family, the intimate basis of our multi-millennial civilization. While I defend the identity of all peoples in their homes, I also rebel against the crime of the replacement of our people.

The dominant discourse cannot leave behind its toxic ambiguities, and Europeans must bear the consequences. Lacking an identitarian religion to moor us, we share a common memory going back to Homer, a repository of all the values ​​on which our future rebirth will be founded once we break with the metaphysics of the unlimited, the baleful source of all modern excesses.

I apologize in advance to anyone who will suffer due to my death, first and foremost to my wife, my children, and my grandchildren, as well as my friends and followers. But once the pain and shock fade, I do not doubt that they will understand the meaning of my gesture and transcend their sorrow with pride. I hope that they shall endure together. They will find in my recent writings intimations and explanations of my actions.

Note 

For more information, one can go to my publisher, Pierre-Guillaume Roux. He was not informed of my decision, but he has known me a long time.

Source: http://www.ndf.fr/poing-de-vue/21-05-2013/exclusif-les-raisons-dune-mort-volontaire-par-dominique-venner?fb_source=pubv1

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  • The__Bobster

    I believe it necessary to sacrifice myself to break the lethargy that plagues us.
    _____________

    Taking out your enemies would send a more effective message.

    • Yes, and the first enemies should be the white liberal elite. Make them penniless, and disgraced.

      • RisingReich

        Something more permanent sounds better to me.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        I completely disagree with you here. Why can’t we re-educate people as they did? I understand your frustration, but I can’t trust any group that jumps to killing off people wholesale because of what you think they think, or how angry what people have said has made you.

    • Anglokraut

      That guy in Norway tried that, but because he targeted the children of liberals, and the libs control the media, his message never got out. All he is now is a baby-killer and bigot, because no one is allowed to ask if his very-clearly expressed anger was justified.

      • Not even someone else’s kids are good for that.

      • evilsandmich

        I dunno. The lefties not only couldn’t bring themselves to kill him, but they couldn’t even sentence him to more than 21 years in jail.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          There is a documentary out concerning his trial and the reasons he got the insanity plea. He had a very crazy upbringing with a really crazy mother. People like this can’t be our heroes or leaders.

          • evilsandmich

            I didn’t mean to infer that necessarily, just that the left at their core are willing to be consumed by the forces that seek to destroy them.

        • François

          That is how their legal system works.

      • Juggernaut3000

        Breivik has been deemed “insane” by journalists, media and leftoid bloggers with big mouths. This means everything he’s ever written is completely null and void, merely the ravings and ranting of a lunatic and mad man so no need to decipher what he was trying to say.

        I read his manifesto and it was clear he was upset at the changes going on in his country, Norway.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          You ought to review the details of his trial and why he was judged to be insane. If he was sane and true to his “manifesto” the most violent thing he would have done was perhaps kill some Muslims or other non-Europeans. He might even become an avenger for the rape victims by hunting down the perps and dealing with them. But he didn’t do that. Instead, he killed overwhelmingly white Norwegians for being leftists. History shows that killing off other whites because you don’t like their politics is harmful to all whites and opens the door to non-white advantage in the long run. People change their minds fairly easily. History shows that too.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        His anger was justified, but his action wasn’t. He killed white people (mostly), which is just more of the same white on white civil disorder (war). This can’t be the answer.

        BTW, have you seen the documentary on Brevik’s mother and upbringing? He fits into the model of the white shooter from a bad home. In his case, very crazy. We can’t make a hero of this guy.

    • dogbone

      But when someone does that they are called a terrorist – unless, of course, the person takes out a bunch of white people; then they are called a hero.

      • Dirk

        The mistake of Breivik was not his bomb, but the ‘baby killing’. A big PR mistake.

        • HamletsGhost

          The youngest of his victims was 14, with many others older than 30. Hardly babies.

          • jambi19

            I thought it was a little screwed up when he showed up dressed as a police officer myself.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      I actually agree with you here. However, I always say that for now, we must be defensive because all the odds are stacked against us. Suicide accomplishes nothing but to help the anti-whites achieve their ends. It’s too bad that he couldn’t see that trying to make oneself a martyr only makes you look like a radical nut, again, using a gun to solve your problems, which reinforces the anti-white viewpoints and associations. He was a voice that could have soon found a larger stage, if he could just hold on…

      This is why the poem “Invictus” is my inspiration and ethic;

      Invictus

      Out of the night that covers me,
      Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
      I thank whatever gods may be
      For my unconquerable soul.

      In the fell clutch of circumstance
      I have not winced nor cried aloud.
      Under the bludgeonings of chance
      My head is bloody, but unbowed.

      Beyond this place of wrath and tears
      Looms but the Horror of the shade,
      And yet the menace of the years
      Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

      It matters not how strait the gate,
      How charged with punishments the scroll.
      I am the master of my fate:
      I am the captain of my soul.

      William Ernest Henley – a dead white man, poet

    • François

      His enemies have the government on their side, and if he had shot a Muslim, he would have been described in the news as some crazy racist or something. Instead, he committed the ultimate sacrifice.

  • Token Finn

    Sounds like he was a pretty good guy. Also embodies the attitude of international whites; he did shock some people, but still had the politeness not to take any of his enemies with him.

    • Morris LeChat

      shock is a very powerful and useful tool. He shot himself to aid his side in a war, therefore it is not suicide, it is self sacrifice. It is the same as a soldier diving onto a grenade to save his buddies by absorbing the blast himself. He concluded that at this time, this was what could possibly have a positive effect. He did not kill himself out of anger or self pity.

      • foundingstockcracker

        Good analogue Morris. I was thinking along the lines of an old warrior falling on his sword. Yours is better.

      • englishsparrow

        “self sacrifice” It is Morris.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        This is the thread winner, Morris.

        Bon

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        Whether his suicide will produce anything helpful is still to be seen. I don’t see how you can know how angry or whatever else he might have been. This appears to be an act of complete frustration to me. Diving onto a grenade saves lives in the moment. I don’t think his action will save one solitary life. I don’t think that valuable whites killing themselves impresses anyone except other similarly minded whites. Killing oneself out of political, cultural frustration (even if he rationalized it otherwise) only assists those who want to get rid of whites altogether. What a victory when you can get the intellectual leaders kill themselves?

        He will be characterized as a right wing nut that used a gun and profaned the Cathedral to perform an act that the Church wholeheartedly, historically condemns. Too bad, another white tragedy.

        I understand that historically, brave and noble Europeans (Romans and Germans alike) used suicide as a last resort. But that is it – the last resort. If this is to be an analogy, then Venner had given up all hope of success or survival of Europeans.

      • François

        Like a Kamikaze.

    • Exoplanet Finder

      I get this argument about “taking his enemies with him” but that is not the point here. Plus, there are 600,000,000 of us and 6,500,000,000 “enemies”. No one is going to take them all out by a superlative number of micro-attacks or sui-homocides. He wasn’t talking to them, he was talking to us. He says he did it in this one, certain, symbolic place, by an act of will, and that to him, the last moment of life is as important as all the rest of it. This man is a hero, he seems to be talking to us from some time in the past, referring to a matrix of thought that has been warped considerably. I read through the counter-currents translations of his note and his last posting, and he inspires me to work harder to peacefully help effect a positive change in society. By his writing, he believed we each have a voice. Our voices are small, but they are growing in quantity and volume. This guy showed a single voice can be heard round the world. Who cares what the Algerian thinks? What matters is what we think.

    • dogbone

      gays are really not the problem, they are a symptom. The cause of the problem must never be mentioned so that it can continue to grow.

      • Morris LeChat

        shy don’t you mention it so we can know what you are talking about

        • ms_anthro

          Mentioning it here gets your posts deleted without further comment. Ask me how I know.

          • Morris LeChat

            well…., try and let’s see what happens? They can only delete a post, not your existence. what are you afraid of and why the veiled hints that there is a conspiracy? There are no conspiracies here.I find this site to be rather straight up. Stop hiding from behind the bushes as you throw stones. Come out in the open and discuss things like a man. I have had posts deleted and I don’t sit there and stew in resentment. I figure that if I do not get at least one lost deleted a week then I am slipping, especially if it is on a page that Engleman is posting on and moderating.

          • ms_anthro

            Whoa there, killer, reign it in a bit. I’m not stewing, scared, or sitting around worried about conspiracies. It was a lighthearted comment about how naming those-who-cannot-be-named results in deletion. I get deleted regularly and still come back here to read and post often. It’s still a great resource and community, heavy-handed neoconnish moderation aside.

          • Morris LeChat

            Do you spend the rest of your time at sites like “stormfront”?

          • ms_anthro

            No, hasbara troll, I do not. But why not just ask me when I stopped beating my wife? Same intent, no?

          • Morris LeChat

            No, not at all. Who says stormfronters beat their wives?

    • Nick Gherz

      He didn’t take anyone with him (props to him for that) but he left a mess for others to clean up. Not to mention he caused a panic.

      He essentially quit the fight.
      A sad & pathetic way for a “soldier” to go out.

      • drdeeselixir

        Dominique Venner did not take the easy way out. At 78 years old he sacrificed his last few precious years with his family in order to awaken the sleeping mass of Western people. The time for mere talk is over as eventually it takes more than talk to remove from power the totalitarian criminal gang who control almost every Western nation. Talk needs to be reinforced with actions that will shock the masses into the realisation that if Whites don’t act now then they will soon become minorities in their own homelands and Western Civilisation will be lost forever.

        And anyone who sacrifices their life like he did should not be accused of being a quitter. For anyone to complain because Venner caused a ‘panic’, now that is pathetic. Perhaps this warrior should have worn slippers too in case he made a noise and further offended the tourists. That fact that people worldwide are now discussing Dominique Venner’s actions to awaken the comatose Western people means that some of them will read further and be awakened to the genocide of Western peoples that is taking place and that is surely what Dominique Venner intended.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          I completely disagree. It would have been better for him to go on talking and writing rather than silence himself. It is actually a huge egotistical conceit to think that anyone but a few will be impressed by his “sacrifice.” Killing himself as a protest to the legalizing of gay marriage seems to me to be the worst of all issues to choose to try to send a message by suicide.

  • Bill

    Shouldn’t YOU know that all sin is forgiven, even suicide, by the atoning blood of Christ, past present and future for all who have accept his salvation through grace and belief on Him? Point of fact, though, his act makes about as much sense as some buddhist setting himself on fire. The lesbos and homos won in his case.

  • The__Bobster

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/france-same-sex-marriage-v-vive-la-diff-rence

    The French, especially the Provencal troubadors, led a revolution in world culture a thousand years ago in elevating to the highest cultural prestige male-female romance. This started out as largely an idealization of heterosexual romance between bachelors and women who had to marry somebody else for dynastic reasons (e.g., Lancelot and Guinevere), but soon evolved into an overwhelming cultural endorsement of the love marriage, which is perhaps the most distinctive feature of the Western Civilization of which the French have always been in the forefront. It’s not a coincidence that Paris has always been the dream capital of the feminine imagination.

    In contrast, in the preceding Greek and (to a lesser extent) Roman ancient world, marriage was more functional and less emotion-laden, while romance was culturally constructed to be mostly pederastic homosexuality. This is not to say that husbands and wives weren’t often deeply in love in the Ancient World, just that the the most prestigious high culture tended to endorse homosexual pederasty over heterosexuality as the most favored medium of romance.

    • Stentorian_Commentator

      Ugh, pederastic homosexuality. That’s why the Greek and Roman civilizations ceased to exist. I understand there’s a fair amount of pederasty among the moo-slimes, but they apparently have a prohibition on contraception and they maintain “old fashioned” (better termed “timeless”) roles of men and women.

      • Triarius

        Not even close to why Rome and Constantinople fell. And the homosexual thing has been blown out of proportion and was not that common in the ancient world.

        • Dirk

          Homosexuality does not pose a threat, the veneration of it does.

          • Triarius

            I am not contesting that. But homosexuality did not bring down Rome or Byzantine (Medieval Rome).

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          Stuff like that is constantly written by people who have never seriously studied the ancient world. I would bet that none of these current posters have ever read Gibbon’s “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.” If they had, they would not make such claims.

          • Triarius

            Exactly, that is why I feel the need to do this. And that book was great. If you ever get a chance look into TTC Lectures. They are beyond amazing in almost every subject, but are miles ahead in History. Some are expensive, but you can get them on sale or download them elsewhere (it could be considered legal so I do not condone that).

        • François

          It was quite common in feudal Japan.

      • Mr Plankton

        Homosexuality was a capital offense in the Roman Legions. That’s not to say that it never occurred but it is something that was forbidden and as Triarius pointed out, has been blown completely out of proportion.

    • Morris LeChat

      what do you base all of that rotgut on?

    • newscomments70

      ” just that the the most prestigious high culture tended to endorse homosexual pederasty over heterosexuality as the most favored medium of romance.” I believe that is exagerated. I know that in ancient Greece, consenting adult homosexuals were tolerated, but given the title “one who brings shame”. They also weren’t allowed to participated in Greek democracy. To rape a free child was a crime punished by death. A man could do whatever he wanted with a slave, but a pedophile was banned from participating in government. Some archeologists found some ancient “gay porn”. It doesnt’ mean that everyone participated in this. It was most likely 1-3% of the population. It is of course greatly exagerated by liberal media.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      I think you are as usual, making thing up out of the air and your limited knowledge. Romanticism existed in Europe before a thousand years ago and the troubadours were merely an extension of Merovingian court life. Before that, the oral traditions all over Europe included romantic tragedies. Tristan and Isolde were from an old story cycle from which other ones including the Arthurian cycle were constructed. Many of Wagner’s themes were taken from oral traditions from the Merovingian period. These were apart from the Latin world. It was later that they were revived and Thomas Malory wrote Le Mort d’Arthur in the 15th century, not in the time of the troubadours, although he was Norman English. The movement that began in the 11th century, was Occitan in origin, centered in and around Carcassonne in the modern French Department actually called the Langue d’Oc. (I’ve been there), and is not French or even Parisian and could hardly be called “revolutionary” since it was merely a new style of telling court stories (it would be useful to read up on the Albigensian Crusade). It was almost gone by the 14th century, but the period of the “Black Death” wiped it out completely.

      Malory actually represents early Renaissance literature that had a revival during the Romantic, Gothic revival of the 19th century when these time periods got generally mixed together in the popular imagination. As for Rome and the Roman world, we have the literary and oral traditions of Cleopatra and the example of the ancient goddesses of love in both Greek and Roman paganism. To claim that anyone earlier than the 11th century understood or experienced romantic love is a ridiculous and unsupportable proposition and relies upon exaggerations of them by the early Christian Church and a reliance on the worst activities of the wealthy elite and a Roman emperor named Caligula, who is now known to have been mentally ill due to the by then rampant lead poisoning in Rome which was as much a cause for its fall as anything else.

  • The__Bobster

    A right-wing historian shot himself dead in front of hundreds of tourists at the altar of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris today, apparently in protest at France’s legalisation of gay marriage.
    _________

    A neat trick for the tourists. The problem is that you can only do it once.

    • Morris LeChat

      I guess it would have been the wrong time to show off one’s newly acquired French vocabulary by shouting “encore”.

      • Paleoconn

        You can. Just that somebody else would have to do the same act. The way I see it encore means again, so as long as the same act is done, albeit by somebody else, it’s appropriate. Not to ruin your joke, I did find it funny.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          If enough whites indulge in the “encore” the Muzzies and other white haters have nothing to do but to wait us out. Which they are doing already. It just seems ironic that we would help it along and call it heroic.

          • Paleoconn

            100% agree. When the Muzzies off themselves, they take dozens of us with them. They’re clearly winning.

        • Morris LeChat

          I picture Mr. Bean using the word at the inopportune moment

          • Paleoconn

            Or Obama, he’s full of gaffes. Or Biden. I believe he once asked a crippled guy to stand up, at some kind of event

          • It was at a 2008 Presidential campaign stop in Columbia, Missouri. The crippled guy was paraplegic Missouri State Sen. Chuck Graham.

            Interestingly, Graham was voted out of office and a Republican put in his place that November.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mzbuRgnI4

          • Paleoconn

            Our next President, ladies and gents. He also said to a room of blacks about the Repugs, ‘they wanna put y’all back in chains’. Mr. Delaware affecting a working class Southern drawl. Frauds.

        • François

          It means again, yes. But of course, you could not expect the same guy to do it once more.

          • Paleoconn

            True

  • IstvanIN

    It doesn’t sound like he committed suicide over gay marriage. It sounds like more the real issue is race replacement and the authorities want to link his suicide to that topic. I have wondered why gay marriage caused such great protests but Muslim car burnings, rioting and street blocking receive nary a peep from the general public. I am of the opinion that gay marriage is just a way to keep the people distracted from what will really destroy their race and culture: non-European immigration.

    • On his blog, Venner has lashed out against same-sex marriage and what he called a future Islamist takeover of France.
      .
      In a post published Tuesday, he wrote, “The essence of a man is in his existence and not in another world. It’s here and now that you have to play out your destiny until the last second. And this last second has as much importance as the rest of the life.”
      .
      In the blog, Venner voiced his support for those expected to take part in a massive demonstration in Paris May 26 against same-sex marriage. But he said their fight should not be limited to that issue, and they must also denounce what he predicted would be the replacement of the French and European population with Muslims.

      .

      http://www.wcyb.com/news/Man-kills-himself-at-Notre-Dame-Cathedral/-/14590844/20235898/-/view/print/-/r5ll52z/-/index.html

    • Pat

      Agree with you. From his suicide note – ‘the desires of invasive individuals to destroy the anchors of our identity’ and ‘ the crime of the replacement of our people’ – two powerful sentences show what was really bothering him. He must have been a mass of frustration.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      That’s it. He blew it by calling it a protest against legalizing gay marriage. But killing oneself as a protest to being replaced is rather helping them along.

  • sbuffalonative

    Anders Breivik tried to draw attention to the Muslim/Multicultural threat. How effective (or destructive) was he.

    Tibetan monks have set themselves on fire and gotten attention but they were supported by liberals.

    I suspect many people are glad he did what he did and hope others will follow his initiative. This is, after all, what they want from us.

    • JohnC

      Exactly. Committing suicide is idiotic way to protest cultural suicide. The liberals I’ve seen are all laughing their ass off. “Bigot kills himself – evolution at work”

      • Dirk

        Hear, hear! Rather kill some enemies and die in the ensuing gun fight with the police.

        • Triarius

          Seconded.

  • Licurg Enescu

    I disagree in part with what he did, but will say that he ended his life with dignity and purpose, something few of us will have the honor of doing.

    Rest in peace Dominique Venner, may your name never be forgotten.

  • fakeemail

    I can’t say that his suicide is an effective tactic, but I certainly understand the following sentiment: “For 40 years, politicians and governments of all parties, as well as employers and the Church, have been actively accelerating Afro-Maghrebi immigration by every means.”

    It’s demoralizing living in a society where those few at the top want to be filthy rich instead of just rich. And they’re willing to let their brothers go down the drains in the process.

    • Dirk

      Suicide is a self defeating tactic. It only works to strike fear in the enemies hearts, but that’s only if you are part of a suicidal cult like Shintoism or Islam.

      • Triarius

        It is a tactic also to protest. To make others feel sorry for you or look at your cause from another angle. Unfortunately antis do not care or will not look from a different perspective. So yes this tactic, in regards to our cause, is almost worthless.

      • I suspect murder with a hand weapon like a claw-hammer is much better than suicide when it comes to inducing fear. I actually invented the term “Claw-Hammer Aversion Training”. In a role-playing game in the early 1990s, I started a terrorist motorcycle gang “Claw Hammer”. It wasn’t supposed to be part of the game plot. The game master was initially annoyed, but eventually got really into it.

        I’m a peaceful fellow these days. I moved an elderly neighbor lady’s piano yesterday, and all I would accept was a glass of whiskey. It was only a little upright.

        Hell still calls to me. Hell; It practically sings. I may go there someday, just for the hell of it.

  • John Eigen

    Ladies and gentlemen,

    Do not kill yourself. Ever.

    You are far more useful to your people by just existing, if not fighting.

    • Martel

      Exactly, just having the right opinion makes you valuable.

    • fakeemail

      Amen to that. Just chill-out and enjoy the decline.

    • sbuffalonative

      I have to agree. As long as you’re alive, there’s hope. Alive, he could have talked to numerous people, changed minds, and rallied the troops.

      He is one less soldier in the fight.

      • Unperson

        Generally speaking, I would also agree. But Dominique Venner was 78. His powers to convert others were probably declining. His future was bleak and not terribly long. He could have done what old people are “supposed to do”, which is to waste away (under the care of nonwhite caregivers) his final few years in a nursing home. Had he chosen this, nobody outside of France would know the name Dominique Venner, or be discussing him as a topic right now.
        Instead, he chose to take his own life — in a high-profile location; and in a startling and symbolic way. He got himself into the papers. He had an effect. A small effect, perhaps — but more of an effect that he would have dribbling away his last days being fed and bathed by immigrant nurses from Cote d’Ivoire or (even worse for a man like this) Algeria, all speaking French about as well as African-Americans speak English. Not fun.

        Obviously, symbolic suicide isn’t any kind of long-term strategy for Identitarian goals. But if those self-immolating Buddhist monks in Vietnam during the ’60s could win the world’s attention AND THE WORLD’S SYMPATHIES for setting themselves on fire as war protests, well, maybe Dominique Venner could serve some similar PR purpose for our side.

        • Jackryanvb

          He could have done a “back at ya” suicide in some Algerian Mosque. I bet this great French White guy terrorized and killed some nasty Algerian Ay-rab Mudslime scum in his 20s, why not go out with a bang at 78?

          Read Jean Respail’s Camp of the Saints. It’s all in there.

        • Anon

          I completely agree. If he had faded away in a nursing home, this story would never have been on Amren and I would never have heard of him. His note was poetic and beautiful and I would never have been aware of it if he hadn’t done what he did. I’m sure many others here have never heard of him until now.

          He was 78. What more could he do in life?

          To those saying he should have tried to take some enemies with him, again, he was 78. What exactly could he have done? Shot some brown person on the street, or gone on a rampage in a mosque? His message would be lost by doing that, and that brown person would be replaced seconds later by a new arrival from Cote d’Ivoire. It would have been an undignified ending, perhaps with him being arrested instead of dead, spending his last months being a villain in court.

          To those saying suicide is cowardly, or a sin, I don’t know, this action seems brave and right to me.

          • My wife’s great grandfather was in the Imperial Navy and committed suicide by running his airplane into a US escort carrier, which then caught fire, blew up and sank. On his part, it was a protest against the way the war was being conducted. His superior, Admiral Onishi read one of his letters, and organized “special attacks” on an official level. I think that was the point. By mid 1944, a Japanese pilot who attacked a US ship was pretty much committing suicide anyway. I would have wanted a troop transport. It’s a little – but really not very – ironic Sayaka is now married to an American.

            There are lots of things a 78 year old can do that are better than public suicide.

            At the age of 78, I plan to still be doing a lot of gardening and woodworking. At the rate I am aging, I’ll probably look the same 31 years from now as I do today. I suspect I’ll still play a lot of “Neverwinter Nights”. Since most of my friends are several decades older than I am, I’ll probably be someone else’s older friend by then. That 31 years is really not very much.

          • François

            I think some people who write that he should have shot some of his enemies, not only would not do it themselves, but might not even want to get in a fistfight with one of them.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          This is already old news. The only information I heard about this on the West Coast was that “somebody offed himself in or around a touristy French monument.” — small blurb, somewhere on page 14 near the bottom alongside the obituaries.

          Same as it ever was from the Ministry of Propaganda — also known as the American media.

          Notice the article above is from the British press.

          Bon

      • You assume that he hadn’t already talked and talked and talked for a good portion of his life. Not everyone is a soldier.

    • Jackryanvb

      Viking Odinists believe that only warriors who died in battle, who’s soul escaped from a gaping war wound, only these brave Vikings made it to Viking heaven Valhala!

      How did we fall down into this pathetic life and death of cowardice?

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    “The May 26 protesters cannot ignore this reality. Their struggle cannot be limited to the rejection of gay marriage. The “great replacement” of the population of France and Europe, denounced by the writer Renaud Camus, is a far more catastrophic danger for the future.

    It is not enough to organize polite street protests to prevent it. This is a real “intellectual and moral reform,” as Renan said, and should be conducted as such from the start. It must make possible the recovery of French and European memory of our identity, the need for which is not yet clearly perceived.” –From the link provided by the Amren editor to Mr. Venner’s last blog post.

    Mr. Venner seems to have understood exactly what the most pertinent threat facing France today is. Of course, the mainstream media is going to do everything in its power to obfuscate his real reason for shooting himself. Gay marriage was only a side issue, not the real, vital issue. The vital issue is race replacement, and they know they cannot let that get out into the open.

    Once people start thinking about race replacement, they might actually notice that it is happening right here, right now, in every western, white nation. And once the public notices that, they might notice the liberal elite who allowed and aided this replacement.

    And then we just might bring back the guillotines. No, they definitely can’t let this get out.

    • JohnC

      My guess is that “most people” in France think race replacement is a wonderful idea. They’re celebrating it, right out in the open, not trying to hide it. The infiltrators doing the replacing love it. The liberals who are bringing in the infiltrators love it because the infiltrators are a solid liberal voting block. That ensures they will eventually elect a new people, and secure a de facto liberal dictatorship (like the libs have done in California). The average moderate thinks mass immigration is a great thing because it increases diversity, breaks down barriers/hate through mixing of races and cultures, and helps the economy by boosting growth, keeping the social security system solvent etc. etc.

      • ms_anthro

        You should meet more French then. They are far from supportive of being genocided out of existence. The youth in particular are organizing, training, and readying themselves for a fight.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrZe5fTY1jw&noredirect=1

        • Player1

          A lot is going on in Europe at the moment… ms_anthro by the way, interested in a faux email address so we can talk more?

        • Morris LeChat

          I think the strong national identity that the French have has prevented them from being totally corrupted and demoralized by modernism. Modernism promises a life where catering to sexual indulgence is the highest value. A life devoted to sexual hedonism has to be a life where connections to people are not important or of secondary importance. The second one’s connections to others becomes more important than sexual license then the sexual act has to be meaningful. A basic connection to others is one’s ethnic identity. Therefore, modernism precludes and seeks to eradicate ethnic identities. The individual though, is left alone, isolated, lost. He still has a need to belong so he does not upset the modernist applecart, he is putty in the hands of anyone who can control trends and fads. They unthinkingly and kneejerlingly defend this modernist world view. Anything that smacks of old values- the value of life, the value of marriage and family, ethnic identities where some are included and others excluded, all such things are rejected. In order for this modernist world to function, no distinctions are allowed to be made, for if they allow some to be excluded, then they know they are all vulnerable as well. Since they are all divorced from family and ethnic ties that would otherwise be unbreakable, they always feel an insecurity. They will be easy to motivate into a mob. The are outformed, not informed. They are weaklings without any substance, hollow people.
          But the French always had a much stronger national identity and pride, this has prevented them from becoming total narcissistic modernists.

      • François

        What are you talking about?

  • bigone4u

    The point is that through angry mass street demonstrations and now this suicide, the powers that be in France know that the people despise gay marriage. Americans are still asleep or too afraid to confront the awful realities of what our masters have in store for us–the extermination of our children, traditions, laws, culture, and our race. The next step in France is general strikes and violence targeted at the politicians. The elites in France will not be sleeping well tonight. In America, there is no next step, just the first step. It’s time get ugly and stop making nice.

    • Morris LeChat

      I have the idea that the whole unravelling of western culture started with Kinsey, and his fraudulent research and that it has all been connected with groups pushing homosexuality. I think it is no accident that the countries that have been the weakest when it comes to standing up against gay marriage, are also the ones that are proving to be the weakest when it comes to standing up against demographic oblivion at the hands of hostile immigrants. A connection to ethnicity is just a connection to a larger family. The destruction of family, by placing sexual adventure as the highest value of a society, has had a whole range of adverse affects. To accept homosexuality, one has to accept that pursuit of sexual fulfillment is independent to family and reproduction. Once that is OK for homosexuals, it is ok for heterosexuals, and society breaks down. Ethnic groups that embrace this ethos disintegrate, disappear.

      • If the Gang Bangers of Eight throw the borders open bill is defeated, you will find that among white politicians, there will be a strong correlation between the politician’s stance on gay “marriage” and his or her vote on the GBof8 bill.

        • Morris LeChat

          Oh, I have no doubt about that.

  • Jackryanvb

    Study up on the race war in French Algeria in the 1950s. Everything we frustrated White racial realists in the USA want to do to Black/non White criminals, terrorists, idiot Libs/Marxists, the Whites in French Algeria did and did it with great style élan.

    See the Movie Battle of Algiers
    Read the tell all book The Battle of the Casbah

    Paul Johnson’s Modern Times has an excellent section on the race/cultural conflict in French Algeria…

    Of course the American Reagan Conservative, Religious Right, Libertarians will have absolutely no clue about what I am talking about – unable to find Algeria on any map.

  • Integration Anxiety

    While I defend the identity of all peoples in their homes, I also rebel against the crime of the replacement of our people. This guy sounds like an honorable individual. To those who say he’s doing what the egalitarians want. They want us to die. Yes and no. They want to be the ones to inflict the death blow. They don’t want us to do it ourselves. Now I guess you can look at it and say that the policies of the left had the causal relationship leading to this man’s suicide. So they in fact killed him. But looking at it from an outside perspective, that’s not saying much about the policies of the left. That people would rather be dead than follow a Marxist cult in the stages of absolute intolerance is eye opening. Well for the rest of society at least.

    Oh the irony that liberals bestow on the rest of us. Be tolerant of alien cultures or we’ll force the majority population to alienate their culture. Like other commenters on here have mentioned. The left will change the rules to suit its goals. The oligarchs and plutocrats on the right follow the same mantra. You must have checks and balances to keep political systems in check.

  • Ryan

    Venner was an atheist.

    • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

      He was a theist according to his own words. He is described as a traditionalist catholic.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        If he was Catholic or Christian at all, he would have known that suicide is a deadly sin that cannot be forgiven. This appears to be another case of the Church attempting to own people, things and take credit that is not theirs. Christianity has done this from its very beginning.

        • Morris LeChat

          The issue is linked, it is intimately linked. The weakness and corruption of a society that allows it to accept gay marriage also makes it unable to withstand islamization.

          • Pelagian

            *Now* were getting to the bottom of it.

            The older I get , the more I see interrelationships of issues that in my youth I had compartmentalized.

        • Fr. John+

          “Mr Venner, an ultra-right wing Catholic, ” Translated from NewSpeak- “what every Catholic once was, in 1960.”

          As to his ‘suicide:’ There is such a thing as martyrdom against licentiousness. As another poster on a different site noted, “The last thing a Catholic in the state of grace does is take their own life, especially in a holy consecrated location UNLESS they had seen face of ABSOLUTE EVIL and were martyred by it. ” Sodomy IS such an Absolute evil. Presbyterian theologian, RJ Rushdoony noted it, forty years ago, when he wrote The Institutes of Biblical law, in which he said Sodomy is the nadir of a civilization’s demise.

          As I am neither a Presbyterian or a Romanist, I can agree with both men, and see more clearly than to atrribute guilt to this man’s actions- as neither the poster above, nor I, am God, embued with omniscience. I can also, with clear conscience, say that this man HAS died as a martyr for NORMALCY, as a result of the actions of the Homoheresy, (as Catholics are now calling it) than I could EVER say, of MLK and his ‘martyrdom’ for supposed “Equal rights.”

  • Tiop

    RIP.

  • a multiracial individual

    Liberals cry when Tibetans kill themselves. When non-liberals kill themselves, they cheer.

    • Triarius

      Liberals also hate corporations, yet cried when Steve Jobbs died. This only goes to show you further proof of the lunacy and hypocrisy of the left.

      • François

        The left is inherently incoherent.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      China has tried to force immigration (and integration of groups like Tibetan Nomads) into Tibet. This has routinely been labeled Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide by the UN and “Anti-racist” groups. Yet you will never hear a peep about the clear and consistent Targeting of White Children.

      There are thousands of organizations, groups, and laws trying to help out non-whites.
      There are none preventing the genocide of white children.

      When Whites kill themselves, lefties cheer.

      Bon

  • Jaego

    Well the Algerians had the right to throw the French out with violence. The French colony, unlike most of European Colonies, actually threatened the Algerean People since it numbered over a million and had taken the best land. Likewise, the Muslim Colonists threaten the existence of the French People. Yet the French don’t draw the correct conclsuion that they have the same right as the Algerians.

  • Simonetta

    What a vile and horrible thing to do.

    The Cathedral of Notre Dame in Paris is a holy place and must be respected as one by everybody regardless of individual opinions or mental state. Devout Christians believe that Notre Dame is one of the places where God and mankind (yes, that includes all you gals out there too. Chill, girls, ‘mankind’ is just a word that the English language uses to mean ‘all people’) have intimate spiritual interaction, renewal, and awakening. Notre Dame, on its own little island in the center of Paris, has filled this function for millions of people for 850 years and will continue to do so for centuries into the future.

    All civilized people of the world understand and respect this. And to be civilized means that one does not profane holy places with acts of extreme violence like blowing your brains on the central altar in front of worshipers and respectful visitors. This is not done! There is no reason or cause that justifies such sub-human and anti-civilized behavior. Whatever your religion or lack-of beliefs, if you are of the assumption that you are a civilized person and wish others to believe so of you as well, you do not defile churches with vulgar and repulsive behavior or horrific acts of violence. And this goes for the obnoxious retards of Pussy Riot in Moscow as well as this demented jerk in Paris.

    • Exoplanet Finder

      Notre Dame is a holy place. I will also be a mosque in 100 years. Venner knew that. But like Christ, he gave his life in self-sacrifice that it will not be. He did this as a soldier in the most important war of our lives, as Morris LeChat said so well. Who cares if he didn’t believe in heaven? God may well have believe in him, and I for one believe he will live in eternity with his maker and the rest of us. It was violent, it was crude and rude to the visitors, but then again, have you seen the way they dress to visit that holy place? They profane it themselves without anyone’s help.

    • Martel

      His act showed much more respect to the Notre Dame then those who walk trough it everyday knowing they are destroying the culture of those who built it. To me, that is a much greater sin.

      • Where the Hell is Charles Martel, now that we need him again? I’m going to write another poem about this.

    • So when a 78-year-old woman is raped, beaten and stabbed to death by a group of black men in a violent home invasion, people stand up and take notice and work to change the declining society that is right in front of their eyes. But when a 78-year-old man sacrifices himself as a form of ultimate protest, it is supposed to be an indication of his own sickness and a “vile and horrible thing to do.”??? This isn’t rooted in reality. People die every single day, and heads are still buried in the sand.

      Would it have been a better story if the 78 year old had been beaten, tortured and killed instead of suicide? Millions of White men, women and children are preyed upon by the black and brown hordes and suffer as a result of the Leftist disease. Be honest here, you still sleep at night and don’t think about all of those victims, right? But being forced to witness a byproduct of multicultural madness, brought to your own hallowed ground, now that got your attention.

      • It wasn’t a vile and horrible thing. It was a sad and regrettable thing. My ex-father turned earlier this month, and I wish he had done the job instead of Venner.

    • MBlanc46

      The word “humankind” exists and will save you from having to apologize to the women.

      • IstvanIN

        Must we butcher the English language even here?

        • MBlanc46

          In this case, I wouldn’t consider it butchery. I find it superior to the apologizing for using “mankind”. Using “their” for a singular, when “he or she” is grammatical, that’s butchery.

          • I avoid the problem by eschewing the use of the word. I refer to “people” and “orcs”.

          • MBlanc46

            And then there’s “people” and “folks”, but that’s on the dark side.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      How much longer do you give Notre Dame before it is torn down and replaced with a mosque?

      Those high-fertility non-Whites who are being brought in to race-replace traditional White French have NO respect for French traditions or civilization. None.

      These sub-humans will defile Notre Dame with their vulgar behavior worse than any White Frenchman could ever imagine.

      It’s only a matter of time.

      Bon

      • TeutonicKnight67

        The sand-rats won’t tear it down. They will simply desecrate it and replace all the beautiful art and stained glass with their vile squiggly “writing” and meaningless geometric patterns. One need only look at the Cathedral of St. Sophia in Constantinople to see the future.

      • François

        I f they do that, I hope their new mosque gets Molotov cocktails thrown through its windows, and the Muslims inside are fried, litterally!

  • SoCal LoCal

    Suicide only if there are street protests underway. Otherwise, target your enemy. Let them know they are hated by those of us living in the real world, where the consequences of their folly manifest.

  • David Ashton

    A misguided act.
    BUT LET US REMEMBER HIS WORDS.

    • I don’t see how it is misguided. Not the path I would personally take. But I can’t profess to have walked in the shoes of every person on the planet. Hunkering down in your home, watching the gray hairs multiply, and waiting to comment on the next article about non-White crime or the decline of society is… well, let’s just say that I think it ranks pretty high on the misguided acts of defiance scale.

      • David Ashton

        OK. He left his family for this. Despair and suicide are sins for a traditional Catholic, and the balance of his mind was not disturbed. It is up to the rest of us to take up his comment and cause, and see that they get through media smother, trivialization, misrepresentation, sneer and ephemera, and never lose their force. At the going down of the sun, we must remember him.

        • François

          I shall.

  • White Mom in WDC

    I don’t believe in suicide and I don’t know much about this man but I have to say that at least he took a stand on something. We may not agree with his presentation or method, but he did draw attention to his stance

  • NorthernWind

    His actions are more powerful than they appear at first glance. I could elaborate but it would take an essay. Suffice it to say that it hints at the recent evolution (since 2004 or so I’d estimate) of nationalism from a reactionary movement into a cause. From a reaction to societal transformation and degradation to a cause (for the preservation and eventual second renaissance of Europe). The difference is that you complain and sign petitions for the reactionary movement, but you fight and die for a cause. It’s a matter of time, the dam will break.

    • I don’t think I would need an essay, because I know exactly what you are talking about. And you are 100% correct.

  • Other Guest

    The title of this article is misleading. I just got done reading his last post -http://www.dominiquevenner.fr/2013/05/la-manif-du-26-mai-et-heidegger/.

    He is basically lamenting the changes in Europe and France. He states that the demonstrations in May against gay marriage should not stop there in defending
    historical French life and use their energy to go on to combat the ‘great replacement of population’ that is happening in Europe with massive Islamic immigration whose values are so different and where France is predicted to fall to Islam within 15 years. He specifically mentions the honoring of women vs the subjugation of women as one of those values.

    • IstvanIN

      But the press has to concentrate on the gay aspect to divert attention away from the race replacement issue, which is the elephant in the room.

  • Epiminondas

    Wow. He was nothing if not committed.

    • Sick of it

      If he were truly Catholic, he literally and of his own free will damned himself for eternity to make the ultimate point. I don’t think many non-Catholics realize just how big this is for them. He was THAT disgusted by the thought of gay marriage.

      • Martel

        It wasn’t about gay marriage…

      • rollo clevich

        He wasn’t a believing Catholic, you have to be skeptical about everything that comes from the leftist media.

  • StillModerated

    The trouble of becoming a martyr is that the guttersnipe media label you “an enemy of the state.”

    • Lygeia

      Suicide is not martyrdom.

      In order to be a martyr, someone else has to kill you.

  • It’s like the Tibetan monks who set themselves on fire.

    Incredible story… but unfortunately a true one.

  • Fornerly Known As..

    Say what you will about the man and his intentions. That suicide note was pure poetry. It makes one feel greater regret over his passing. He must have been psychically exhausted to have done such a thing. Not mad, but perhaps terrified at that possibility. I’ve spent many a time utterly alone, mind racing, in wonder at the horrors of this modern world. And there’s almost no one you can discuss it with on a civilized level. It is quite possible to be surrounded with friends and family and feel complete alienation. Even the people close to me that agree with my politics think I’m a bit beyond the pale..

    How does the saying go? “If you should fall, another will step from the shadows to take your place”. If anyone is familiar with the quote and it’s author, please share them with us.

    R.I.P., Dominique Venner

    • Lancasharia

      I see what he has done as courageous. The hope that he will be the catalyst to ending European lethargy, a lethargy that is preventing them from saving their own backsides. We should all double our efforts because of this man.

  • LHathaway

    I’m reminded of the old line, attributed to ‘cops’, “There’s nothing to see here. Move along”. How long before there is nothing to see here, as these incidents are excised from public record – for the good of the public?

  • Bobby

    I could often feel how Dominique Venner, longed for the Europe of his youth, after reading many of his articles over at the Counter Currents Publishing site.

  • Alexander from Flanders

    Had he been a young man then I would not agree very much with his action (but I will not call him a coward or something like that). But we have to remember that the man was almost 80 years old, and that makes a huge difference. You can hardly go out in a Anders Brevik/Robert Mathews style at that age.

    What I will predict is that more and more White people are going to choose for violence in the future. It will be a naturel reaction to what is being done to our race.

  • bubo

    I’m surprised his manifesto made it to the internet. If this had happened in the U.S. he would have been labeled an insane racist and his note would have been confiscated and destroyed by the police.

  • Jar Jar

    Jared Taylor should follow his brave example.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      You first, retard.

      • Greg Deane

        Hear! Hear! Why are morons like Jar Jar allowed to post hate comments when race realists aren’t even allowed to make reasoned commentary in the mainstream media?

        • I would like them to be allowed here more, just so ordinary fence-sitters will better understand what we face. One of the old advisements here was “We reserve the right to hold our enemies to a lower standard.”

        • englishsparrow

          It simply depends upon who the “hate comment” is directed at, as to whether it’s free speech or not.

        • RisingReich

          Been wondering that myself.

        • Fr. John+

          Mr. Deane- You’ve just answered your own question. One is the ‘noble savage’, the other merely a ‘racist.’

          The new Religion will not tolerate another creed, I’m afraid. And it IS a Religion- a religion of worshiping the Negro as the “Perfect Hominid.”

          • Greg Deane

            I wasn’t really asking, Fr. John. I was using the question more as a rhetorical device intended to educe thought, in keeping with the socratic method.

            Hominid is an apt term. It is amazing how many noble, ingenious heroes Hollywood can find of negroid antecedents, and yet every black nation is in a degree of collapse. On the other hand, Hollywood, and the rest of the media industry, has so much trouble finding any white man who is competent, resourceful, brave and wise, except for homosexuals or environmental activists. However, there are some white women with these characteristics, like the intolerable Angelina Jolie, or Jennifer Garner, or Myra Jonovich-though they verge on being psychopathic misandrogynists.

  • Maxwell Foxwell

    I for one fully appreciate and understand this man’s honorable gesture. He was old. He was an excellent writer. He did his best to send the best message possible with the means he had available under the current circumstances. Killing other people would have been completely useless and was not what he was about. Let’s not distort the meaning of his gesture. I share his hope that it will awaken something good.

  • Maxwell Foxwell

    It appears he saw Christianity as a Jewish Sect. His allusion to Homer speaks more of a value towards European Pagan understanding, although admittedly maybe not in so many words. All I mean to say is that he had a very deep understanding and appreciation for our ancient traditions and where our values etc come from aside from the Bible.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      Venner was in this way, merely being a European. The European Renaissance (where Amren takes it name!) was largely a rebirth of pre-Christian knowledges, including a new appearance of Greek and other religious mythology. Philosophy was revived as well as the notion of scientific inquiry, including math and astronomy. The Church, which had tried to prevent this for centuries, had to give way under the weight of this inevitable resurgence of full European culture. Outstanding products of this such as John Locke and William Shakespeare would not have existed without otherwise. Shapkespeare certainly revived the use of the Greek theatre devices in his plays and often enough focused on ancient history (Julius Caesar King Lear, Midsummers Night Dream, etc.). Certainly, Edward Gibbon would not have written “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” which is really a six volume history of the first 1500 years of modern Europe. It also happens to be regarded as a masterpiece of English literature and the foundation document of The Age of Reason in the English speaking world. Washington, Jefferson and Franklin were all influenced by Gibbon and they were also, like him Deists (and Freemasons as well. (That is another history often badly misrepresented by the religious right these days).

      The problem for the modern American is the separation and final loss of this culture as we have dumbed down our culture and switched over to “Multiculturalism. But for the average conservative, Western Culture is merely some mash up of Christianity and nationalist politics. The general dumbing down has affected the American conservative in further separating our real, deeper European heritage. Southerners for example, used to be highly acculturated in European Renaissance culture until Reconstruction and the isolation of the defeat and lack of basics caused an lack of education for decades. In bad times, people become more and more reliant on religion or “faith” to pull them through. Since they were already well programmed, this too, has become generalized into the right. But I would contend that this is hurting the white cause badly and will continue to until we can gain back our full culture and access our deeper culture and even break away from the power grabbing that organized religion is really all about. Christianity doesn’t care about the race of people and those who contend it does will always be in a minority because the notion is entirely unsupportable. The end result of all this is why so many posters here can’t see that pro-whites could also be atheists, deists (which is really agnosticism), or even “pagan.” We always speak and react within a notion of political right or left wings. But the animal, its vital organ and life is located in what is in between, and that is a complicated network of nerves, organs and of course the heart at the center of it all. We must be whole to be a people that can survive for very long.

      If you had ever been to France and visited any of the many Cathedrals there you will see that in the French language and in its own definition the Catholics define themselves as a “cult.” Cult has a slightly different meaning from our popular use. If viewed by the actual definition, a cult is Christianity qualifies. It just happens to have been the dominant cult that was able to establish itself over many other cults during the long period of the reign of superstition over reason in the West (mainly because it was more aggressive and ruthless in doing it. (Albigensian Crusade, anyone?).

      Christianity began in Jerusalem as a Jewish sect that did not call itself Christianity. Paul (Saul) usurped it and sold it to the Greeks, being the one who used the Greek word “Christ” (redeemer). Paul (Saul) was himself and Hellenized Jew that suddenly went from Roman state supported prosecutor to usurper (he admits the usurpation in his epistles). In the New Testament he relates that he was rejected by the Jewish sect he usurped (for bringing an uncircumcised gentile into the Temple and otherwise usurping. Paul also admits to making things up “lying to bring the truth.” (Making fraud and forgery an accepted way to promote the new faith and generalize duplicity into Western culture).

      You’re right in regard to his understanding of Pre-Christian religion and culture in Europe. In fact, mosty Europeans share this trait, where Americans are far distant to them. Many places still celebrate “pagan” festivals openly. In Slovenia for example there is a town named Pitje where the ancient May Day festival is still celebrated (as it is in other places including Padstow, England). There is actually a great museum in Pitje with their traditional costumes and other related items on display with large photos of the annual festival. Americans are more unaware of this continuity because of a number of historical reasons, a main one being that the American Colonies were settled by radical Christian groups (Puritans primarily, but not all) and that it represented a free zone where anyone could invent a new sect or religion, usually Christian based (only Christian based until very lately). Christianity in Europe was never completely able to exterminate all knowledge and practice of the old religion (although they tried damn hard for centuries). “Pagan” is an Latin word that means “country dweller”. Christianity took hold in cities and the most rural people held to the old ways in spite of repeated purges. In fact, Christianity is half “pagan” in structure (hold the posting, investigate it). The Catholic Church freely admits this fact. It is how they made converting more attractive. Even the advent of “Gothic” architecture was developed for the cathedrals by mimicking the natural arch formed by the sacred oak trees that Europeans had held their rites beneath for tens of thousands (according to some) years.

    • François

      “It appears he saw Christianity as a Jewish Sect.”

      That is how it started, at least.

  • rightrightright

    Puccini’s Madama Butterfly. Cio Cio San reads the inscription on her father’s sword as she contemplates killing herself.

    “It is better to die with honour when life with honour has become impossible”.

    This man was 78. He could do nothing more than he had done to rouse people to the degradation of our common civilisation. He knew he could continue to live into his twilight years within what was left of it as a stranger in a strange land, but in honour felt he could not. He used his frail body as a weapon and the bullet he put into that old human flesh was perhaps welcomed as a release.

  • Licurg Enescu

    From Venner’s letter: ” I love life and expect nothing beyond, if not the perpetuation of my race and my mind.”

    Doesn’t sound like his motivation was religious…

    • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

      Looks like he believed in ghosts like your typical theist if he thinks his mind is still going to function after death.

      • Licurg Enescu

        It’s obvious you understood nothing of what that man was about…

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          It’s really difficult to get through to these guys. But we must try.

  • Frank Wheeler

    The French. Even their suicide bombers can’t get it right.

  • That is a pure shame.

  • I wish that the proponents had some sense of shame and guilt for what they have done and what they have driven this man to, but these people are so sick in the head it would not surprise to find them gloating over his fatal act.

    This is what they have driven somebody to, and many more of us in Europe are sick and tired and find what is going on (as the whole) an almost unbearable burden of knowledge to carry on the shoulders. We want people to sit up and take notice and he took drastic action. I am not sure what to make of his methods though.

    That the Daily Mail seems to have deviated so wildly from the ‘real reasons’ (and turned it into some single ‘gay issue’ cause) is further evidence of the sickening betrayal against European peoples.

  • A noble sacrifice for us – Let us know if his letter is published in the media.

  • rollo clevich

    Given that he calmly committed suicide, he obviously wasn’t a “right-wing Catholic” like the deliberately dumb DM claims. He may have been a “pagan Catholic” as Julius Evola described himself.

    From his suicide statement:
    “I love life and expect nothing beyond…”

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    While I defend the identity of all peoples in their homes, I also rebel against the crime of the replacement of our people.

    Venner died a desperate and broken man after witnessing the take-over of his country by communists who pushed and glorified “multiculturalism,” and “tolerance” and implemented race-replacement of the French people with violence-prone Moslems and Africans.

    Were the French people — or Swedish, Norwegian, British…or the people of any other White nation asked if this is what they wanted?

    Imagine the bloodshed in WW I and WW II, millions upon millions of Whites who gave their lives to (supposedly) protect and preserve their White nations and their posterity only to have their homelands, their legacy handed to parasitic non-White savages by hostile, lefty leaders.

    Yes, I understand exactly why M. Venner did what he did.

    Political Correctness says that White genocide is the most honorable of all causes and that opposing White genocide is the most despicable of all acts. But the average person thinks that PC is actually all about preventing hurt feelings.

    –Bob Whitaker

    Molon Labe shall not be questioned.

    Bon

    • Certainly Bon, but if I had to go, I’d make a fully-automatic shotgun in my basement and shoot up the inside of a mosque a year after signing away all my property, just so lawsuits against my estate would be useless. The only thing better than a fully automatic 12-gauge shotgun at short range is a flamethrower. The “Jackhammer” is pretty good, but I think I could do a bit better. I’d use the progressive rotary feed design of our old Pontiac M-39 aircraft cannon and stamp “Mister Happy Shotgun No. 001” onto the receiver wall. It would need a vertical foregrip with a wrist strap, but a ten-inch barrel would be perfect for three-round auto-burst. I’ll stick with my coilgun; for me that is at least legal, provided I don’t hose down a mosque with it.

      The cops would probably register the gun later on and keep it, which is why I would want it forever called “Mister Happy Shotgun”. A hundred years from now, they would probably still have Mister Happy Shotgun. Sadly, I’ll probably never build one.

      • Sangraal

        I, for one, am glad you’re on our side…

  • rollo clevich

    Marine Le Pen was supportive:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22620143

    French far-right leader Marine Le Pen has said a suicide on Tuesday in Notre-Dame Cathedral was “political”, in a remark condemned by the ruling party.

    Ms Le Pen, who heads the National Front, said Dominique Venner, an award-winning far-right historian, had sought to “wake up the people of France”.

    Mr Venner condemned both same-sex marriage and Islamist influence in France in writings before his death.

    Socialist Party chief Harlem Desir said he was shocked by Ms Le Pen’s words.

    (…)

    “All respect to Dominique Venner whose final, eminently political act was to try to wake up the people of France,” Ms Le Pen wrote on Twitter.

    “It is in life and hope that France will renew and save itself,” she later added.

    Bruno Gollnisch, another National Front member, said Mr Venner’s “dramatic act was a protest against the decay of our society”.

    (…)

    • “Socialist Party chief Harlem Desir said he was shocked by Ms Le Pen’s words.

      Describing his death as the “gesture of a far-right marginal”, he said the National Front leader had “seemed to justify” his suicide. Such violence was, he said, “very revealing”.

      Such a perfect example of the backward and primitive reasoning abilities of those afflicted with Multicultural sickness. Suicide is precisely what Mr. Venner was opposing. The Western World is currently engaged in the ultimate form of cultural and racial suicide. What we have with this story is a man who viewed his country, heritage and progeny as being greater than himself. When a man throws himself onto a live grenade to save his squad, we look at that as a testament to his selfless devotion to his fellow soliders and nation.

      It’s Nationalism or nothing for me.

    • François

      Go on Google and search pictures of Harlem Desir, and you should quickly understand why he said something like that…

  • Tim

    No kamikaze ever crashed into his own airport. I prefer the Britsh slogan awaiting invasion, “Take One With You!”

  • jeffaral

    A Catholic fundamentalist protesting against gay marriage. This incident has absolutely nothing to do with our main concern which is the survival of our race.

    • I love life and expect nothing beyond, if not the perpetuation of my race and my mind.

      What part of that simple one-line statement is causing you confusion about the importance placed on Race?

    • rollo clevich

      He didn’t believe in an afterlife-so he obviously wasn’t a “Catholic fundamentalist.”

      • François

        You got it.

  • bayouboy

    It’s sad and pathetic that gays and gay marriage was really the biggest problem in this mans life. I’ll say it again….when was the last time that ANYONE had to move or have their life (except for this Venner nut) disrupted because some gays moved near them or got married. What he should have killed himself over is the 50% divorce rate among “straight couples”. Or the mu mus moving in that have multiple wives as slaves.

    • You should make it a habit to read and try and comprehend what you are reading before deciding to make comments. Reread if you have to. This clearly was not simply about gay marriage.

      • boyouboy

        “A right-wing historian shot himself dead in front of hundreds of tourists at the altar of Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris today, apparently in protest at France’s legalisation of gay marriage.”
        Did I miss something? Maybe, not simply, but it clearly was about it.

        • rollo clevich

          You should have read his suicide letter at the end of the posting.

          I am healthy in body and mind, and I am filled with love for my wife and children. I love life and expect nothing beyond, if not the perpetuation of my race and my mind. However, in the evening of my life, facing immense dangers to my French and European homeland, I feel the duty to act as long as I still have strength. I believe it necessary to sacrifice myself to break the lethargy that plagues us. I give up what life remains to me in order to protest and to found. I chose a highly symbolic place, the Cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris, which I respect and admire: she was built by the genius of my ancestors on the site of cults still more ancient, recalling our immemorial origins.

          While many men are slaves of their lives, my gesture embodies an ethic of will. I give myself over to death to awaken slumbering consciences. I rebel against fate. I protest against poisons of the soul and the desires of invasive individuals to destroy the anchors of our identity, including the family, the intimate basis of our multi-millennial civilization. While I defend the identity of all peoples in their homes, I also rebel against the crime of the replacement of our people.

          The dominant discourse cannot leave behind its toxic ambiguities, and Europeans must bear the consequences. Lacking an identitarian religion to moor us, we share a common memory going back to Homer, a repository of all the values ​​on which our future rebirth will be founded once we break with the metaphysics of the unlimited, the baleful source of all modern excesses.

        • drdeeselixir

          Yes, you did, because you’re blind and seem totally unaware of the simple fact that the lines you quoted were written by the media as a sensationalist headline to hide the truth – whereas Venner’s own words in his suicide letter state clearly that race replacement was in fact the main reason for his actions. With friends like you, who needs enemies?

          • bayouboy

            Well, i’m certainly not going to pay much attention to a letter that was written by someone who claimed to have a “healthy mind'” who then goes and offs himself. Doesn’t sound to “healthy”
            to me.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Imagine the anguish of Venner and other patriots being subjected to the likes of anti-White traitorous leaders like Sarkozy.

    Nicolas Sarkozy pursued a vigorous policy of diversity and métissage which means giving preference to minorities in job hiring and prosecuting those who do not comply. Affirmative action became a government policy from which none are exempt.

    Sarkozy insisted that the French people change, that there will be dire consequences if they don’t, and that not to intermarry racially is bad for the survival of the country.

    Sarkozy chose an Algerian-born businessman, Yazid Sabeg, to be his ‘high commissioner on diversity and equal opportunity,’ and to implement these government orders.

    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3764

    Sarkozy was one of the worst of the anti-White officials, his policies designed to hasten the disempowerment and elimination of Whites from France.

    Diversity & Multiculturalism = White Genocide.

    Bon

    • drdeeselixir

      People should note that the fake Catholic Sarkozy’s maternal line were from a long line of rabbis from Salonica in Greece before they moved to Hungary in 1920. Ring any bells? Of course, 1920 was the year in which the Communist tyrant Bela Kun’s regime took over Hungary. Later, after the Hungarian people gave Bela Kun & his Marxist criminal gang the boot, Sarkozy’s family fled Hungary for France.

      • IstvanIN

        Hallelujah!

  • stuart mcmahon

    The good white people find themself in the same boat ,via mass immigration,it would only take one majority white country to rally against there cowardly elites ,the rest will fall

  • Roland gérard

    Sorry folks but Dominique Venner was not catholic at all. On the contrary he has been for 50 years a stout adversary of christendom.

  • George
    • rollo clevich

      Those are prostitutes who are paid well for their antics by George Soros or some other NGO funder.

      The French generally don’t take well to that kind of nihilistic mockery-it finds its natural home in the Anglosphere and Israel.

  • jc

    Please let’s not have any copycats.

  • Pelagian

    I’m ambivalent about this gesture. See, suicide is pretty easy for the Left to mock:

    A Femen activist protested in Paris’ Notre Dame Cathedral on Wednesday. ….The now infamous topless protesters released the following statement along with photographs:

    “Just right now FEMEN’s angel of Death held a mono-protest on the altar of the Cathedral of Notre Dame in the same place of yesterday’s suicide of fascist activist.

    “On the body of sextremist with the plastic gun was written the prophecy ‘May fascism rest in hell.’ Thus, FEMEN calls upon all European Nazism, in the face of all their underhitlers and halfmussolini, to follow the example of the ultra-right man Dominique Venner and immediately commit a suicide of their believes excluding theirselves from the political arena in Europe.

    “Hurry up, there is not so much place left on the sacrificial altar of Notre-Dame de Paris! FEMEN calls for society to condemn the immoral act of moronic grandfather, who made his rotten brain in front of an audience of fifteen hundred people! FEMEN calls the cathedral to check an inventory of property for damage and to sue the French nationalist leader Marine Le Pen who warmly supported this public suicide.” [sic]

    • rollo clevich

      It’s all about who has the power. The left is in power so they’re free to mock whatever target they choose.

  • disqus_Xz3UA6obwj

    A straight person obsessed with gay marriage is like a beef eater being outraged over the legalization of chicken. Not only is this childish it is just plain evil to want to deny gays from being married and if this is why this idiot killed himself then good riddance.

    • IstvanIN

      This had nothing to do with gay marriage. Read his suicide note not the press obfuscation of the facts.

    • Paul

      ‘A straight person obsessed with gay marriage is like a beef eater being outraged over the legalization of chicken’ ??

      Ah…..Why please?

  • Its easy to see from a lot of these comments how a low information person is programmed. They read the headline and maybe the first paragraph, assume they have a complete understanding of what is being presented and then begin posting ill-informed comments. Do yourself and the rest of us a favor, if your not going to take the time to really read the entire article as well as the supporting linked information and then thoughtfully consider what you have read then please spare us your shallow assessments and thoughts.

  • Joe Mack

    Good luck mentioning the long history of jewish influence in France, the jewish role of the French Revolution, and the continued role that the Rothschild family has over France, the EU, and over global media, banking, and politics in general beyond France.

    All white countries are being forced to accept mass nonwhite immigration at the same time. This is not an accident, this is policy.

    And it benefits this tiny ethnic minority in their efforts to divide and conquer the countries they are manipulating from behind the scenes.

    But this post unfortunately won’t last very long on this website.

  • Ella

    I think he meant his suicide to be symbolic of our current apathy and a sense of hopelessness that Whites feel among their own homelands. It is an anomie condition representing the moral breakdowns and instabilities within the community. I think it sends a wrong message for others because Europe and US have been through dark times in which we’ll face again and did survive.

  • Fate

    Jews use to say in their Talmud: “Kill the best of the goyim”. And so they do (Stephane Courtois: Black Book of Communisme, Laffont Paris 1997… etc…). So they will be happy about this suicide and continue with the judeo-islamic alliance and conspiracy against White Peoples and Christianity in all White Countrys as EU, Russia, USA, CND, AUS, NZ etc as they did allways in the past and present and future.

  • rebelcelt

    He did a stupid thing. He thought his actions might make leftist society ponder his dilemma. That the left would take note of his sacrifice and in reflection , repent. He was demonstrating to Godless leftist not Christian conscious type folks. They want his death and will celebrate it.His pontificating will be forgotten by left by
    the weekend.

  • Sheila Dinehart

    What idiotic use for a perfectly good bullet.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    Pierre-Guillaume Roux has to be a distant cousin of mine. Guess why?

    • François

      You are a redhead? Thats what roux means.