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Nearly 80 percent of New York City high school graduates need to relearn basic skills before they can enter the City University’s community college system.

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When they graduated from city high schools, students in a special remedial program at the Borough of Manhattan Community College couldn’t make the grade.

They had to re-learn basic skills—reading, writing and math—first before they could begin college courses. {snip}

Officials told CBS 2′s Kramer that nearly 80 percent of those who graduate from city high schools arrived at City University’s community college system without having mastered the skills to do college-level work.

In sheer numbers it means that nearly 11,000 kids who got diplomas from city high schools needed remedial courses to re-learn the basics.

To meet the needs of the students, City University has launched a special program called CUNY Start. It provides low-cost immersion classes. {snip}

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In its defense, the NYC Department of Education said it has raised high school graduation rates by 40 percent over the last seven years. And that the number of students needing remedial courses to do college work has declined slightly—by half a percentage point overall.

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  • MekongDelta69

    Nearly 80 percent of New York City high school graduates need to relearn basic skills before they can enter the City University’s community college system.

    Oh gee, oh gosh Mr. Cleaver – I wonder why?

    • Robert Binion

      Perhaps, they were denied “Head Start”?

      • Michael_C_Scott

        Head Start is being cut back here in Colorado Springs for 150 African freeloaders who don’t understand how birth-control works.

        I cracked out the last of the homebrewed apple-cranberry Christmas cider to celebrate after reading this.

  • jay11

    “In its defense, the NYC Department of Education said it has raised high school graduation rates by 40 percent over the last seven years.”
    ** The graduation rates have increased because teachers have learned to pass students who don’t deserve it because if you don’t, you will be called an ‘ineffective’ teacher and set on the road to be canned. The scandal of ‘credit recovery’ (doing a one hour project to make up for a semester’s worth of work) only recently has been addressed, and here’s the zinger: the city of NY now requires its state tests to be centrally graded because teachers were grading those easy tests WAY to generously so Dequan and Janita could pass. All three together were the perfect dotrm conditions that gave Bloomberg his bragging rights, and teachers went along because of the outright bullying that the Dept. of Ed engaged in. It is shameful. The emperor has no clothes, as we have just seen!

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Precisely! The artificially high graduation rates in recent years are the entire reason for the flood of utterly hopeless new college applicants.

  • Salarino

    The wonderful fruits of social promotion. Keep digging that hole NYC.

  • Urban Teacher

    Need to relearn?

    What makes you think they ever learned them in the first place?

    • Oil Can Harry

      Books be racist.

      • MBlanc46

        To an extent they are, when you IQ is 85.

    • MBlanc46

      Exactly. Was the use of “re-learn” an attempt to sugar-coat the data or an indication that the author’s own literacy is less than stellar?

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Good point. I’ve never heard of anyone forgetting how to read or cipher, except when traumatic brain injuries were involved.

  • SargeInCharge

    The figures reflect that the average black high school senior is at a reading and math level of a 7th or 8th grade white students. The Hispanic average is not that much better than the black average.

    • anonymous

      I find those statistics hard to believe. If black high school seniors can read at a 7th or 8th grade level, they’re pretty much even with the rest of the country. According to various studies I’ve seen, the average adult in the US reads at something like an 8th or 9th grade level, so I’m guessing that most of these black students can only read at the most basic elementary school level, if at all.

    • Felix_M

      A high skoo’ diploma doesn’t mean what it once did.

      • StillModerated

        I recently read A Tree Grows In Brooklyn about an eighth grade dropout who was ready for the workforce at age 14. The setting was 1915-16. All those trillions of bucks we’ve wasted on ejumacation and self-esteem boosting would have been better used keeping the USA White.

  • Luca

    Darn journalistic oversight (again), they forgot to post the racial breakdown.

    • JackKrak

      Why would anyone care about that? I mean, it would only

      1) reinforce “negative stereotypes”
      2) give ammunition to “divisive voices” on the right
      3) distract us from the real point of the story, which is that we need to increase funding for education NOW!!!

  • Robert Binion

    A denizen of Dixie “dumb,” I deem this discourse delightful.

  • So CAL Snowman

    These kids cannot read or write but the La Raza activists and NAACP DEMAND that these blacks and browns be placed in the upper tier Technology schools and DEMAND that their schools have access to AP classes and college prep classes. Tell me La Raza and NAACP members, how are Jose and D’Arfius supposed to master differential equations and quantum mechanics when they can’t even spell the word success?

    • Felix_M

      Try to picture José and D’Arfius working in a nuclear power plant…say you’re prayers that when some college shunts them on through with engineering degrees because of their skin color, they never come near a nuclear reactor.

      Ironically, most people, already wise to the affirmative action game, know not to trust the “skills” of a Latino or African-American engineer or physician.

      • What will happen then is the AA NAMs who are so “shunted on through” will indeed go to work for a firm that has responsibility over a nuclear reactor. But they’ll never be allowed anywhere near where nuclear fission takes place. They’ll be farmed off into an EEO/HR/AA/PR/Personnel bureaucracy, and be carted out only during employee photo time when it’s time to send out a duly “diverse” photo set of the plant’s employees to the Justice Department (“please don’t sue us”), or when it’s time to send out speakers to the local blackboard jungle public schools to prove to the 90% NAM students that they can “bez watevah they wants to bez, even nucular enguneerz.”

      • Joseph

        They are probably promoted to some makework “management” or “public relations” position (like I see at the local utilities) where they have less direct exposure to technical aspects likely to cause a catastrophe.

  • Same story in California too, about 2/3’s are in the same boat as those in NY

  • Oh, well, the problem is with the community colleges. It would all be better if they, like the high schools that feed into them, just ditch all pretense of standards and just hand out associates’ degrees like candy.

    Because…that’s what social justice demands.

    And also…eventually, everyone gets a Ph.D. That way, we’ll all be equal.

  • Tom Iron

    We all know most of these kids are minorities, but I’m starting to wonder if it matters in any way. There are no jobs and the jobs there are, these young people won’t do, and if they do go to work in a fastfood joint, they’ll be bad employees and end up getting fired anyway. Any job that has potential of making a real living at is well beyond their capacity. So what does it matter if they can read or write?

    • KenelmDigby

      Unfortunately, it does matter to you.
      By dragging doen the USA’s productive potential they drag down its living standards.
      They and their children will consume an awful lot of ‘public services’ in their lifetimes, but not contribute towards funding it, hence your tax burden will rise, and by comprising a majority of voters they will vote themselves more of your money.

    • Tucker

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Department_of_Education

      “Demographics

      About 1.1 million students attend New York City public schools. There
      are about 635,000 students from kindergarten through eighth grade.[16]

      About 40% of students in the city’s public school system live in
      households where a language other than English is spoken, and one-third
      of all New Yorkers were born in another country. The city’s Department
      of Education translates report cards, registration forms, system-wide
      alerts, and documents on health and policy initiatives for parents into Spanish, French, German, Chinese, Japanese, Urdu, Persian, Hindi, Russian, Bengali, Haitian Creole, Korean, and Arabic.

      In 2007, Hispanics and Latino students made up 39.4% of the student population. African Americans made up 32.2% of the student population. White American and Asian American students made up 14.2% and 13.7% of the student populace respectively. Native Americans made up the remaining 0.4% of the student body.[17]

      The specialized high schools tend to be disproportionately Caucasian
      and Asian. New York’s Specialized High School Institute is an
      after-school program for students in late middle school.[18]
      It was designed to enlarge the pool of African American and Hispanic
      candidates eligible for admission to the selective schools by giving
      them extra lessons and teaching test-taking skills.[19] Unlike other urban school districts (such as San Francisco Unified School District), New York does not use racial preferences (affirmative action) in public school admissions.”

    • Tucker

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Department_of_Education

      “Demographics

      About 1.1 million students attend New York City public schools. There
      are about 635,000 students from kindergarten through eighth grade.[16]

      About 40% of students in the city’s public school system live in
      households where a language other than English is spoken, and one-third
      of all New Yorkers were born in another country. The city’s Department
      of Education translates report cards, registration forms, system-wide
      alerts, and documents on health and policy initiatives for parents into Spanish, French, German, Chinese, Japanese, Urdu, Persian, Hindi, Russian, Bengali, Haitian Creole, Korean, and Arabic.

      In 2007, Hispanics and Latino students made up 39.4% of the student population. African Americans made up 32.2% of the student population. White American and Asian American students made up 14.2% and 13.7% of the student populace respectively. Native Americans made up the remaining 0.4% of the student body.[17]

      The specialized high schools tend to be disproportionately Caucasian
      and Asian. New York’s Specialized High School Institute is an
      after-school program for students in late middle school.[18]
      It was designed to enlarge the pool of African American and Hispanic
      candidates eligible for admission to the selective schools by giving
      them extra lessons and teaching test-taking skills.[19] Unlike other urban school districts (such as San Francisco Unified School District), New York does not use racial preferences (affirmative action) in public school admissions.”

    • MBlanc46

      Which seems to me to imply that, if we want them to become productive again, we need to ensure that there are jobs that they can do and that they do them.

  • ncpride

    In its defense, the NYC Department of Education said it has raised high school graduation rates by 40 percent over the last seven years.

    In other words, they have graduated 40% more illiterate ‘students’ out into the world. They give them a useless diploma to ‘lift them up’, then when they get out into the real world and can’t compete on any level, despite being told they can over and over, they start to blame Whitey and insist it’s ‘racism’ that’s keeping the minorities down.

    • Tinfoil A22hat

      Isn’t it amazing that statements such as that are even made, much less just accepted? It’s indicative of just how stupid the majority has become. “Yah we admit we do a shi**y job but hey, we sure do a lot of it, so give us something shiny”.

    • Wayne

      Yeah, if awarding diplomas is the goal, we can get that to 100% TODAY! Won’t be worth much, but we can award diplomas. Sheesh! Why doesn’t the media call out people to stupid remarks like this?

  • Maybe now the leftist anti-whites will stop talking about ignorant toothless hillbillies and start talking about urban-billies or negro-billies or Afro-billies?

    • Michael_C_Scott

      My evening welding classes at Pikes Peak Community College in 2008 and 2009 were full of “redneck” types, but while they weren’t rocket scientists, they certainly weren’t dimwits. It takes quite a lot of patience and skill to tig-weld thin-gauge aluminum, and being able to read blueprints for welding requires a good working knowledge of basic math.

      The left’s white-hating, self-appointed elites like Tim Wise also ought to consider that a traditional line of work for West Virginia hillbillies is mining coal, and idiots who work with dynamite don’t last very long.

      • Jews that pretend to be white, like Tim Wise, do not take anything into account except that thing or method which brings about the extinction of the white race in the shortest span of time.

    • Felix_M

      Ain’t gonna happen. Conservatives believe what they see. Lefties see what they believe…include Republican lefties like Granpappy McCain and Miss Lindsey among them.

  • 1gravity

    I am a little unclear as to how dysfunctional this 80% is. That being said, I suggest that the kind of academic failure suggested by the CBS article, and the comments, is usually the result of a conscious decision by the individual student, made, perhaps in stages, along the way. If you asked these individuals to account for their academic failure, their parents, family, friends and pastor included, few would take responsibility. At some point, we should stop paying for this.

  • KCR

    A kid with any brains at all and a scintilla of motivation will be reading in grade school regardless of schools or race… just natural curiosity will have them reading. If you can make it to grade 12 without being able to read somewhere near grade level then you’re simply not interested. College is a waste of time.

  • The__Bobster

    I’m loathe to believe that 80% figure. Students who go to community colleges aren’t exactly the cream of the crop. The number is probably higher for kids who don’t go to college at all and significantly lower for the ones who apply to four-year schools.

  • NeanderthalDNA

    “In its defense, the NYC Department of Education said it has raised high school graduation rates by 40 percent over the last seven years. And that the number of students needing remedial courses to do college work has declined slightly—by half a percentage point overall.”

    That’s it? Lower standards to increase graduation rates (get them out of here!) and a statistically insignificant gain in…what? LOL, sooooo bankrupt!

  • freespeechzone

    Is there any wonder that China, India and developing countries are swiftly overtaking the USA economically…..

    Notice that these countries don’t subscribe to affirmative action or excuses for failure….neither does the rest of the World.

    The destruction of the USA IS the fault of PC liberals—remember that.

    • Wayne

      Specifically, the root of the problem is the ferverent and religious worship of Equality. Equality is a false god, it has never been real, yet whites worship it like some monkey sky god.

      • MBlanc46

        There’s certainly a conflation of equality before the law and equality of educational attainment.

    • Felix_M

      The destruction of the USA IS the fault of PC liberals—remember that.

      I look forward to the day when they are proscribed.

    • Cannot Tell

      I thought India and other South East Asian countries did implement affirmative action…

  • pcmustgo

    80% of the NYC schools are Black and Latino. There you go. Secondly, I read many years ago that a law was passed that banned the use of taxpayer money to teach remedial classes in college.

  • KenelmDigby

    The writing on the wall for America’s economic future.
    Lest anyone forget, China graduates around five million STEM graduates per annum. Virtually all Chinese children, from the sons and daughters of the most humble peasants to the children of the ‘great and good’ value education very highly and achieve at high levels, as eviidenced by international scholastic achievement comparisons.
    – From this statistic and from other general considerations of America’s future demographics, it is certain that China will overhaul the USA massively and will dominate the world economically and technologically.
    Count on it. It’s as certain as any fact in future trends can possibly be.

    • Luis

      Kenelm, how this this possibly be?! China is perhaps some 95% Han Chinese. Why doesn’t the country import some Bantus, Hispanics, Japanese, Cossacks, gypsies, Italians, Jews, Moslems, Australoids, Indians, Samoans, Eskimos and mixed-race types? Where were the Chinese when those pamphlets on the joys of multiculturalism were handed out?
      (Sarcasm off)

      • Wayne

        The Western elites have bet the farm on diversity. China is about 90% Han Chinese and don’t have this death wish. It should be apparent to us that diversity and vibrancy is not working, but our elite will only double down on the wager. Amazing!

  • CCCs (City Colleges of Chicago) are most likely even worse.

    Just a stepping stone on the way to gubmint employment.

  • bigone4u

    “Relearn basic skills”? As in, I used to know how to read, but I forgot! Nobody fogets how to read. The whole NYC cesspool is just one giant affirmative action scheme. I hope the place goes bankrupt and there’s no bailout money for the lefties, which would be money taken from productive Americans to perpetuate the insanity.

  • Luis

    Why am I not surprised by this? New York high school seniors are not much better off than those of Detroit – where less than 3% of high school graduates were prepared for college. But Detroit does have an excuse – it’s 85% Bantu and an open sewer.

    What’s New York City’s excuse? Doesn’t it always thump itself on the chest and preach the joys of multiculturalism, ad nauseum? Aren’t its teachers well-paid?
    New York likes to sneer at places like Texas, Oklahoma, West Virginia and the Deep South, when its educational achievement by its Bantu and mestizo students lag behind whites and Orientals, JUST AS THEY DO EVERYWHERE ELSE.
    Maybe they should have Jared Taylor explain it to them.

  • joeMcCarthyy

    I remember looking at CUNY and seeing that their acceptance rate was like 22% yet their admission GPAs and SATs were low, about what a state university with an 80% acceptance rate would have.

    I guess I now know why.

  • Seek

    I can remember more than 30 years ago, early in my grad student years, I earned some money on the side as a substitute teacher at a heavily black local high school. I taught remedial reading. Most of the blacks in that class literally could not read at what I would consider even a fourth-grade level. And I saw black students talking over other white teachers; the teachers were too scared of legal or physical repercussions to discipline. It was an eye-opening education for me.

    • MBlanc46

      My first awareness of black educational attainment was even longer ago when I saw some essays that a white teacher at a mostly black high school was grading. They would have shamed a fifth grader where I went to school. Apparently things have not improved.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      I made a nice trade in federal prison writing letters home for black inmates. They paid me in postage stamps, and none of them could string a coherent sentence together. My ironclad rule was that I would never, ever write a letter to a white woman for one of them.

  • newyorkdumbasses

    But NYC school system would never give any of the 1.1 million students of which only 15% are white, a passing grade to graduate.

  • IstvanIN

    Why even allow someone who can not read, write, add and subtract into a college?

    • Michael_C_Scott

      Because dem white peoples goes to college, which do makes dem be smart.

      As with just about everything else the left does, they have cause and effect reversed here.

      We would be better off having more mechanics who know to drain trapped, condensed water from air compressors and put inline moisture filters on hoses so the compressed air tools they’re using don’t rust out than we will with additional functionally-illiterate deadwood being to paid play “dress up” and look out the office windows of government agencies all day long.

      The honest answer to your question isn’t quite as flippant. The Tim Wises of the world who think dimwits should go to college are the same ones who demanded for decades that high school curricula be dumbed down, just so as not to damage the precious self esteem of any of these poor little dimwits. I know the rest of this story line already: when the dimwits can’t pass their classes, the dimwit-enablers on the left will demand they be given special tutors. When that doesn’t help, demands will be made that the grades be racially normed. After the dimwits “graduate” in spite of their laziness, on-campus criminal activity and innate lack of ability, the Marxist goons at the EEOC will send warnings to employers that they had better start hiring people who display even the basest stupidity and most odious of personal habits at interviews, or else it is “discrimination”.

      • Luis

        Also, it was leftists who kept repeating over and over and over: “College is for everyone”, like it was theological dogma.

        • Michael_C_Scott

          Political correctness is exactly a form of magical thinking, like the belief in “witchcraft” or theological dogma: the basic assumptions are not open to debate.

  • Hunter Morrow

    “In its defense, the NYC Department of Education said it has raised high school graduation rates by 40 percent over the last seven years. And that the number of students needing remedial courses to do college work has declined slightly—by half a percentage point overall.”

    What?

  • josh

    Shitavious need some help so he can become a marine biologist.

    • Michael_C_Scott

      This would never work; they’re afraid of deep water.