A Mega Mosque in a Suburb That Was 90 Percent White 30 Years Ago and the Polite Apartheid Dividing Britain

David Goodhart, Daily Mail (London), March 24, 2013

On Saturday, the leading liberal commentator David Goodhart described the profound effect mass immigration has had on social cohesion. He admitted that, for decades, liberals like him failed to realise its implications. Today, concluding his series, he sets out his vision of how a new Britishness can bind the nation’s fractured communities.

Large-scale immigration has created an England that is increasingly full of mysterious and unfamiliar worlds — as I discovered one day sitting in an enormous minareted mosque in a sedate London suburb among thousands of men in Pashtun dress listening to the words of an elderly man.

Mirza Masroor Ahmad is not any old preacher. To a couple of million Muslims of one particular sect, the Ahmadiyans, he is the holiest man on the planet.

The mosque in Merton, which dominates its neighbourhood, replaced an Express Dairies bottling plant which provided a few hundred jobs for local people and lots of milk bottles — an icon of an earlier, more homogenised age. 

The symbolism is not lost on the mainly white older residents, who, when I was there researching the effects of mass immigration on British society, did not seem to be embracing diversity with as much enthusiasm as the proponents of multiculturalism think they should.

They are not unusual. Thanks to over-rapid immigration in recent years, Britain is heading for an ethnic minority population of around 25 per cent by the end of this decade.

And in Merton in South-West London, and too many places like it, a polite apartheid reigns: an accommodation rather than an integration. The white population has more or less reluctantly shuffled along the bench and allowed others to sit down.

Since 1980, Merton’s minority population has risen from 10 per cent to over 50 per cent today. Its primary schools — which were still majority white as recently as 2003 — are now 64 per cent ethnic minority. The area has become, in the jargon, ‘super diverse’.

There is no dominant minority in Merton, which helps to make the changes feel less threatening; but there is not much evidence of a common life being built together either. London is not the happily colour-blind multi-racial city that many people like to imagine.

You can see it in action at weekends in a small park close to Morden station. On a sunny day, the place is usually full but divided along ethnic lines: large groups of Pakistani women picnicking with children, Polish guys drinking beer, young Indian men playing cricket, Africans playing basketball.

There is quite a large East European group in Merton which tends to keep itself to itself. Several of the more entrepreneurial communities, such  as the Indians and Tamils and  Iraqi Kurds, create jobs but they invariably go to members of their  own community.

Some minorities import historic feuds. Orthodox Muslims in the area are suspicious of the Ahmadiyans; Tamil youths fight among themselves, as do Somalis; and the historic black (Caribbean and African) versus Asian antipathy is also played out on  some streets.

Economically, many minority Mertonites are doing pretty well in their enclaves. The Indians and Chinese are doing best of all in school and in jobs, closely tracked by Koreans and Tamils. As in the national picture, the white British are somewhere in the middle.

But not everyone is happy with this situation, whatever the local politicians might claim. To many poorer and older white people, there is a sense of loss.

‘We don’t like it, but we don’t have much choice, do we?’ the owner of a hairdressing salon said about competition from a Muslim hair-cutter who had set up shop two doors along.

Poorer working-class whites are doing worst of all in Merton, as in many similar parts of the country. Such people have mainly opted out: they seldom vote, and a lot of the younger people are ‘Neets’ — not in employment, education or training.

For many of the white people who have remained as the area’s personality has changed, the disappearance of familiar mental and physical landmarks has happened too fast —  symbolised by that giant Ahmadiya mosque with its capacity for 10,000 worshippers (plus six smaller, mainstream mosques in the borough).

The Ahmadiyans are model immigrants in many ways. They preach an ecumenical form of Islam and are grateful to be given refuge in this country. They even took out posters on London buses congratulating the Queen on her Diamond Jubilee.

But to many locals, that’s not the point. As one man — described as White Heritage Elder Male in the  jargon of race relations — told a  Merton council focus group: ‘We’ve lost this place to other cultures. It’s not English any more.’

Local political leaders will often  privately admit to the same concern — though, as in all areas of high minority settlement, they have no choice but to celebrate the new diversity.

And from their vantage point, things do often look more integrated  than they really are. For at the gatherings they attend, there will usually be a cross-section of the local minority elites mingling happily together and sharing the same interests  and concerns. 

(Some cynics note that the places where the deepest common life is being forged between the new and the old tribes of urban England is in the local political class and the drug gangs.)

But what we need to do now is  to find a surer way of binding our communities together. One essential tool, I believe, is a national story that everyone can tap into: a story that  can underpin a sense of ‘emotional citizenship’; a belief that despite many different values and backgrounds, we’re also part of the same team.

One of the failings of the separatist multiculturism that developed in the Seventies and Eighties is that it prevented the emergence of a new sense of Britishness — one that absorbed newcomers while keeping a central place for the traditions of the existing society. 

Because no clear national identity was on offer, when new citizens arrived here their own ethnic and religious identities filled the gap, leading  to charges that ‘They keep themselves to themselves’ or ‘They don’t want  to fit in’. Misunderstanding built  on misunderstanding, mistrust on mistrust.

We now need a narrative to inspire and guide us, a new British Dream that encompasses both old and new citizens into this country of ours with its remarkable past. 

For historical reasons to do with our imperial past, some parts of the British elite are uncomfortable with the idea of ‘nation’. 

As a public schoolboy Leftie  who was then briefly attracted to Marxism while at university, I considered any expression of attachment to my country as stupid (with the exception of the England cricket and football teams). 

Boundaries and borders were for the small-minded and the provincial. They were just so uncool. I now believe this disdain of mine was immature and premature,  as well as loftily dismissive of majority opinion. 

And a nation state cannot just be a machine for providing individuals with rights, wealth and passports. It needs emotional ballast, too. We need to reinforce the idea of a ‘citizen nation’ that crosses class and ethnic boundaries.

An unembarrassed and un- chauvinistic attachment to this country — its language, its history, a sense of a common home — has long been the sensible, low-key national feeling of ordinary Britain.

Now, two generations after we stopped being an Empire, the opportunity is here for a benign, confident identity to emerge,  which is an aid, not an obstacle, to  integrating newcomers. 

National feeling is not primarily about institutions but is rooted in everyday life, from sprawling conurbations to small villages; in shared experience and mutual interests; in a certain kind of humour; and in a rich language.

Very few British people think you have to be white to be part of this. 

And most minority Britons, especially those born here, do join the ‘we’, do know something about the history of this country and connect to it, do speak the language as a native, and so on.

They may retain an attachment to other traditions and memories, but there have always been many different, hybrid ways to be English or British.

In accommodating people of  different backgrounds and beliefs, we do not need to abandon a sense of national history, or our popular democratic ‘ownership’ of the country we live in. An inclusive and strong national identity is possible.

To develop it, we need a few more stories like the following one. The Labour MP Siobhain McDonagh told me recently of her elderly Irish father sitting in the gallery of the House of Lords shaking his head in pride and disbelief as he watched his other daughter, Margaret, being elevated to the peerage. 

He had come to England in the late Forties to work as a labourer, met and married an Irish nurse and they had two daughters.

Both did well. One daughter became an MP, the other  became general-secretary of the Labour Party.

And as he watched one of his girls becoming a baroness, he muttered under his breath: ‘Only in England … only in England.’

He was not technically correct — these things happen in other places, too — but they happen here far more than we admit, and it’s  time that our national story reflected them. 

This is not about deference, but gratitude for the best features of an open society. After losing an Empire, perhaps Britain has finally found a role: just being itself.

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  • DailyKenn

    Diversity divisive? Shocking!

  • dd121

    I’d sit here and complain about what idiots the British are, but we’re doing the same thing. Whites must be collectively suicidal.

    • 5n4k33y35

      Well, there is a special group of infiltrators within the white society which repeats the refrain of collective suicide for white society and they don’t claim to be white when among their own kind. Hint: Starts with a “J” and rhymes with the word for female sheep.

  • Vercingetorix

    When will the insanity stop. I can’t even bear to read these articles anymore. We need real leaders to stand up now before it’s too late. Does anyone see any hope?

    • ms_anthro

      It begins with each one of us. We must have the courage to speak the truth, even if it means risking public ridicule and condemnation at first. No superhero is coming to save us from our own callow refusal to face reality. We either defend our right to exist, red in tooth and claw, or we will be destroyed forever.

      Can’t you see it happening? Fight or die. All living creatures go through that basic struggle and White people are not magically exempt. Fight! We are worth saving.

      • White Mom in WDC

        Exactly. Start fighting with words. Look, I am a school psychologist and former teacher. I’ll say this, IQ tests are above all else tests of conformity. Chinese took that idea of conformity and ran with it by being über conformists. They took White man’s ideas and conformed to these ideals with perfection such that they could beat us at our own game. Very sociopathic and mimicry is a trait of sociopaths. So you beat a sociopath by nit playing there game. Starve the beast people.

        • White Mom in WDC

          You starve the beast by not adhering to the system. Go cash. Max your credit cards and don’t pay them off. Stop paying your bills. There is no debtors prison. Scorched earth policy here. Why pay into a system out to screw you?

          • White Mom in WDC

            By the way, meant to say ‘their’ game.

      • Glickstein44

        Do you have the courage to name the hostile elite,even if it leads to being ostrazised and banished from this site.If you want approval here you must minimize that which is most responsible for our condition.

        • ms_anthro

          My goal is to reach the widest possible audience in the most respectable (if unflinching) way I can. Every person we can awaken signals a job well done. It’s not all or nothing.

    • Diamond_Lil

      I see hope in my white children’s faces everyday.

    • ConcernedYoungAmerican

      I do. I fear America may be lost in the sense that the entire continental United States won’t hold, but we’ll eventually get our racial state on American territory and our revenge. I see the most hope in Europe, however. One in fifteen German YOUTHS is associated with the Nationalist camp. All it takes is the rebirth of the Reich, and the Germans can cleanse all of Europe. When it begins, I’ll join them myself. One of the mottos I’ve seen on the Internet is “Europe for Europeans and no more Brother Wars.” If it begins in Europe, it can spread to Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Argentina, Uruguay, etc. I, and millions of other young white men, won’t take this sitting down. And we’ll instill in future generations the pride of our beautiful civilization and the dangers of allowing in alien hordes, including the most cunning of our enemies.

  • David Ashton

    Inclusion of the kind suggested is impossible, especially where Islam is concerned.

  • loyalwhitebriton

    As a public schoolboy leftie…I considered any expression of attachment to my country as stupid…
    Just confirms what I’ve long suspected: leftism is an actual mental disorder!
    Only in England…only in England
    Yeah, that’s the problem!

    • Xerxes22

      If he went to a public school than his family is part of the ruling class. These are the very people responsible for this mess. No wonder the man has no connection with or understanding of ordinary people.

    • 5n4k33y35

      Well, the origin of the lack of pride is hostile infiltrators who persuade whites to be alienated from their own society. Of course these hostile infiltrators have a place to go after they eat the structure of your society like termites. They go home after that and you’re left with the roof falling in on your head.

  • Wayne

    An interesting question is how, pray tell, a school boy learns to hate his own nation, culture, and heritage? Thanks, Allies! While you were off destroying Europe’s best hope, the commie cockroaches were back home breeding and teaching your descendants to hate you. Well played!

    • Tim

      Wow! LOL… I was JUST going to say “Well Played” myself .to your comment above about Normandy and the Bulge etc…

      • Jaego

        It’s the hard Truth. The Nazis for all their sins were fighting for the White Race and against the International Bankers. The Allies, the opposite.

  • ViktorNN

    Goodhart wants to come up with a new “national story” about Britain. How about starting by telling the truth?:

    Once upon a time, for the last thousand years the population of the British Isles has been the same with very little immigration. This population, living on and building up their beautiful islands, created a remarkable and unique civilization, language, and culture that has profoundly influenced and inspired the world.

    Now, in the span of less than a hundred years, this historic population will become a minority on their island home, and their unique civilization will be transformed into a hybrid Anglo-South Asian-African mish mash.

    In two or three hundred years, pure blooded Brits descended from the old population will be a very small minority, if they exist at all, and the unique British civilization they built over 1000 years will be utterly changed into something else, as will the people themselves, and become just a chapter in history books which the new, mocha-colored illiterates who swarm the place can’t read.

    The end.

    The problem with Goodhart’s desire to come up with a “new national story” is that the truth doesn’t always have a happy ending.

    • Barrack Osama

      One of the best comments I’ve ever read on this site. You crystallized the situation perfectly.

    • MikeofAges

      If there are any history books.

    • Commenter

      Wonderful summary. Thank you.

    • saxonsun

      Thanks for the beautiful post.

  • Wayne

    And these new “British” won’t give a damn about your great Battle of Britain, Normandy, Bulge, etc. They won’t care. Your very memory will go to the dustbin of history, same as those you fought against

    • sbuffalonative

      I know. The new ‘Brits’ won’t care about the old Brits past unless it’s to condemn them for the sins of racism.

      Can’t wait for the cathedrals and churches to be converted into mosques.

    • Jss

      Careful Wayne, whiteplight will be along any second to let you know how all the heaps of dead British and Americans from that idiotic conflict died fora good cause and all the Germans deserved it for being Nazis.

      While I agree with you in general I would say that Britain doesn’t deserve to die anymore then America or Germany does. The decay of all White western nations is by design and is being done with out the consent of us natives. It’s just most of us are still to terrified of speaking out because we will be called racist and told “we are like the Nazis”. Or like the author of this stupid article Whites say “uh..I’m not racist, I love non white people, it’s just uh..everything is all messed up..but I’m not racist..it’s just maybe we could try some other way of flushing this country down the toilet”

      • IKantunderstand

        My best friend of umpteen years has just told me I am a racist. This came about because best friend said to me”I can’t wait until Whites are a minority in this country,” I disagreed. I asked, “Why would that make the country better?” Best friend replied: “I don’t know, but you must be a racist, if you don’t think so.” Best friend? Black. I will never be friends with a Black again. Because, when push comes to shove? They will align themselves with other Blacks. Me? I would have picked this friend over many friends and relatives of the White race. I learned my very sad lesson. I always thought that blood would out, but only after friendship. Not so. For Blacks, race is everything. They will throw you under the bus, in the interests of race. We cannot even begin to understand Blacks. Don’t waste your time. They will never, ever, trust you, no matter what. Don’t waste your time.

        • Gina L

          Your story isn’t unique. Many of us have had what we thought were close black friends only to find that when it came down to race they were black above all else and sided with their own race.

          It seems that only whites are capable of actually seeing beyond race and this always comes back to bite us in the end. As for myself, I have cast away all illusions about race.

          • IKantunderstand

            I know, but still, it make me sad. i wasted many years . Actually, I am still in shock..I made the mistake of thinking our friendship transcended race. Apparently, as Whites we make this mistake all the time.Do not befriend Blacks. Do not adopt Blacks. They are not like us. As much as we want to believe that they are.

          • Jss

            Yeah I can relate to your experience. I have never had a non White best friend but I have had some pretty close Mexican friends. In the army I was a machine gun team leader and my ammo bearer and gunner were both Mexican. In Afghanistan we spent many,many hours baking, freezing, climbing mountains,and occasionaly fighting the Afghans or otherwise just hating life together. I could and did trust them with my life.

            I know as far as Mexicans go these two were better examples and to this day I like them better then a lot of Whites I have met. But outside of work we didn’t hang out much and we haven’t kept in touch. I don’t have any hard feelings and I know that outside of the job we just don’t have anything in common. Yeah they put their lives on the line in Afganistan but none the less we weren’t there with the same concept of America in mind. And as much as I did like them I still wish they had never been here to begin with.

            I don’t hate them and wish them well but the sad truth is we just aren’t alike. And I know if push came to shove they are Mexican first just like I’m White first.

  • NYB

    Just admit the mistake and begin undoing it.

    At the end of World War 2, millions of ‘displaced persons’ had to return to their ethnic homelands.

    Today, the culture war is over and the left lost. The brown migrants must understand they have no moral right to remain as unwelcome foreign colonists in white countries. The time has come for ‘de-colonization’.

    • ms_anthro

      They don’t need to understand a thing, anymore than a tick needs to understand why I am removing it from my flesh.

      Let them worry about their own understanding of the situation. We just need them gone.

    • MBlanc46

      I wish it were that easy. Many of the immigrants in Europe have been there for generations. They couldn’t go back if they wanted to. It’s even worse regarding American blacks. They’ve been Americans for at least 200 years. Non-citizen Mexicans can be deported, The blacks we just have to deal with. The same for the Europeans with the blacks and Muslims.

    • Jaego

      The Left lost? No, there are millions of Non Whites in Britain – the Left won.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

        But in doing so, destroyed themselves.

  • Wayne

    So he essentially says he hated his country even though his country defeated the so called “Nazi war machine” and freed the poor helpless Jewish “victims”. As I said before, that war was never about Nazis it was about Germans, it was’t about Germans it was about all Whites. Britain deserved to die as a nation samecas Germany.. Well played, Allies!

    • sbuffalonative

      Just imagine during the first anniversary of WWII how the west is going to relive and redouble their efforts to fight the ghosts and lingering remnants of historical racism and bigotry. Unless the tide turns, that period is going to be the end of western civilization once and for all.

      • Richard from Vancouver

        You could very well be right, sbuffalonative. WWII was fought between 1939 — 1945 so the centennial is just 26 years away. We may live to see the carnage.

  • The__Bobster

    The white population has more or less reluctantly shuffled along the bench and allowed others to sit down.

    THERE’S the problem. Whites should’ve never given up even an inch of that bench. And any politician or judge who asked them to do so should’ve been run out of town.

    • ms_anthro

      If by “run out of town” you mean “tried for treason and executed upon conviction,” I agree.

      • Veritas_lux_mea

        May I kindly suggest we employ the last Saudi swordsman before he retires?

        They should be treated like the perpetrators of genocide that they are.

    • RHG

      Exactly, the white Brit sellouts who are doing this should be dealt with harshly by their fellow white Brits. It’s time maybe act like the Irish and the IRA.

      • 5n4k33y35

        Terrorism is a tactic for losers. I’m sure a lot of the terror attacks allegedly done by the IRA were British false flag operations, but some of them were real and it’s a blight on Irish history and English history alike. Terrorism is for losers.

        Before directly engaging your enemy with force, make sure there is nothing left unsaid. That means there are a whole lot of impolite words to use every day before you begin with destruction of property and vandalism.

        Also, the focus of any direct action has to be on the white enablers, not the brown immigrants. The goal must be to abolish the welfare system for non-native Britons, and to end welfare generally if necessary. Let the attrition of lacking necessities compel the colonizers to return home to greener pastures.

    • saxonsun

      Non-whites in all nations stepped over the line and we stepped back.

  • MobyWhite

    “Politeness” is a genetic flaw in the White community because it blinds us to our incompatibility with Diversity, until too late.

  • Richard from Vancouver

    “…the mainly white older residents… did not seem to be embracing diversity with as much enthusiasm as the proponents of multiculturalism think they should.” If all the white residents, old and young alike, shared the views of these elders then maybe, just maybe there would be a chance to take back England from the blacks and browns one neighbourhood at a time. Multiculturalism is a failed social experiment cruelly executed on unsuspecting, white populations. Well, we’ve woken up to the sham, I think, and you have only to follow the money to realize who the true perpetrators of this criminally cruel experiment are.

  • sbuffalonative

    Goodhart says a confident and inclusive national identity can emerge

    There will definitely be a new national identity but I doubt it’s going to be inclusive.

  • sbuffalonative

    Judging by the comments at the original post, most of the natives get it. But as in the US, they’re ignored by those making policies.

  • a multiracial individual

    Anyone who claims that there is A-N-Y greater threat to civilization than this desert religion has some explaining to do. Whatever the #2 threat to civilization is, I can assure you it is a cosmologically distant second.

    • brengunn

      What about the threat of nuclear war amongst emerging world powers? I would say that is considerably more dangerous than the Muhammadans.

      • a multiracial

        Since many Muslims are happy to be martyrs, I would be worried about them sneaking a nuke. The fat Korean kid is bluffing

    • MBlanc46

      It’s only a problem for us if we continue to let them immigrate. They’re entitled to make hell holes of their own countries; I just don’t want them here.

      • a multiracial individual

        Immigration restriction is only a solution for some places, what about places like France?

        • MBlanc46

          France can certainly restrict future immigrants and can deport all of the illegals already there. That does leave quite a few that they’ll have to deal with permanently. One thing that they might do is to provide no special legal protections for Islam (such as the banning of the headscarves).

    • 5n4k33y35

      Who took down the defenses of the Anglo society from within? The greater threat is Jewish infiltrators.

      Muslims are forthright in their aggression, not infiltrators. It would be worse if they were Christian, because then the racial dispossession would go further while causing fewer ripples.

      The problem is race, not religion. A society cannot bear more than say 2% non-native immigrant presence, whether Muslim, Hindu, Christian or especially Jewish, or else that society will dissolve into the global “multiculture” (monoculture) with whites bearing the brunt of all social aggression. (Thanks Jews.)

  • RHG

    Why the real English have not taken matters into their hands with dealing with their fellow Brits who have put them into this intolerable situation is beyond me.

    • rightrightright

      The State goes after you if you do. Nick Griffin of the BNP was dragged into court twice. Tommy Robinson of the EDL had to sit out months on remand in solitary on petty charges. You lose your job, your finances are frozen by the Police at the behest of the State, you lose your house, you fear for your kids in the multiculti school have to go to, because of your politics. Not so easy.

  • cecilhenry

    That’s right: Admit the mistake, jail and defrock those responsible for the genocide, and send the immigrants and their families back.

    To say ‘oops were sorry’, but you cant go back (and they’re hoping that’s the case)’ is not acceptable and NOT being sorry.

    Its why they push immigration so quickly— so it cant be stopped before its DONE.

    This anti-white wants to define ‘Britishness’ irrespective of ethnic background is EXACTLY the genocide that he pretends to apologize for.

    The liberal hypocrites want to apologize not to avoid being held accountable– no way.

    • Wayne

      No, no jail. Hang! The Queen and Prince Charles need to be among the first. What good is royalty if it does not protest the people?? Answer: NONE!

  • IstvanIN

    Newcomers should not be integrated, they should be tossed out.

    The real English were the thousands of people who came out to celebrate their Queens Golden and Diamond Jubilees, not leftist Marxists, and certainly not the blacks and browns.

    A real nation can only have one culture, one monarch and one God. A real nation can only be a single united people.

    • brengunn

      I don’t see why celebrating the monarchy, a historically German one, makes you any more British than a republican who believes in democracy. BTW, a lot of the blacks and browns love the monarchy and are very enthusiastic flag wavers.

      • IstvanIN

        You can have “democracy” and a monarch. The Windsors are not “German”, all the European royal families have intermarried at one point or another, and certainly Queen Elizabeth isn’t German. Aren’t Prince Charles and King Juan Carlos cousins? That being said the monarchy provides a sense of historical and cultural continuity that no elected politician can provide. Most European and Asian countries lost much more than they gained by toppling their monarchies. Cambodia brought back their monarchy. Juan Carlos gave the Spanish democracy (although considering what the politicians have done to Spain he may regret it). Even a few African countries have started to recognize “traditional” leaders.

        A few darkies might celebrate the Queen, but most would rather see one of their own at the top.

        Back to my point, to form a cohesive nation a country really needs to have a population that is ethnically and culturally homogeneous, with a head of state who represents those people and their culture. I have lived through too many political heads of state, in our case presidents, who are divisive or down right treasonous. Constantly running for office, they provide no sense of stability.

        The British “republicans” will eventually get their wish when the blacks and browns dominate, it just won’t be the egalitarian society they envision.

        • TeutonicKnight67

          God Bless Francisco Franco!!

          • IstvanIN

            and he wasn’t elected!

          • Guest

            The more I study the history of Spain, the more I admire him as a great man. He kept was a true patriot who kept Spain SPANISH! He loved his country, his people and his faith and wasn’t about to let them be destroyed by Bolshevik Culture Destroyers. He made fascism work for Spain by revitalizing the economy, preserving culture and protecting the Church.

            Had Hitler and Mussolini followed his example and turned inward instead of jumping the gun into expansionism then Fascism might still be a viable ideology even today; as opposed to the infantile epithet it has been reduced to.

        • brengunn

          The Windsors? You mean the Saxe Coburgs!

          Monarchies are an outdated form of rule, even constitutional monarchies like Britain’s. Why should any person have privilege bestowed upon them by virtue of their birth? The royal family has also become, if they were ever anything more than, nothing but celebrities. Cheered on in dumb women’s magazines by even dumber women who never even think about what the monarchy means. It’s an insult to the intelligence of any thinking person.

          You may dislike some of your previous presidents, but you will at least have the chance to vote them out and install someone more to your taste, not so with the monarchy.

          Also, being a republican does not mean you want to give all the power to immigrants. I certainly don’t.

          • PesachPatriot

            I have to agree with you here brenn…i am not a big fan of the institution of monarchy, although i do admire some historical kings….no one should get to rule a country for centuries simply because of their last name….elected politicians are easily corrupted but also easily voted out….When I was younger i always liked watching parliament debate…i thought the wigs were neat…

            in america’s case i think the disgust for our recent presidents of the last 50 years or so is because the early ones like washington,jefferson, jackson, grant, teddy roosevelt and eisenhower set the bar pretty high….they also lived in a much slower paced world…abe lincoln(a controversial figure here until this very day) could actually take a full day to sit and think and write out a policy idea on paper and discuss it with his advisors and not have the international media screaming questions in his face while he did it. He also wasn’t expected to solve the whole worlds problems….as for the article i don’t think london needs a mega mosque….there are a couple hundred thousand between morocco and india….hope you had an excellent st. patty’s day there….

          • Anders

            The only good thing about monarchies is reading about them in history books. ;

          • David Ashton

            Not “easily” voted out.
            The Queen is a “constitutional” monarch obliged to act in practice and in theory on the advice of elected ministers in “normal” circumstances.
            The case for a monarchy is that the monarch is born into the role exactly as the people are born into the nation. Of course, this idea can be subverted in various ways and republicans like Rupert Murdoch have been instrumental in this in Britain and Australia.
            “One race, one realm, one ruler” is not a viable possibility any longer, but since the Cultural Marxists have aimed to destroy the UK monarchy along with the UK, the traditional family, the established church and our cultural identity, I think we should resist the revolutionary package, whatever any alleged shortcomings of our very popular Queen.

          • PesachPatriot

            Please don’t misunderstand me….I have a great deal of respect for QEII, as well as many previous english monarchs, I just don’t agree with the idea of hereditary monarchy(unless I get to be the monarch)….I realize the british royals are mostly figureheads these days and a tourism attraction but I don’t have a problem with the english people retaining their royal family as a national symbol….the shortcomings of the royals in the UK pale in comparison to those of our politicians….God Save the Queen….hope all is well in the land of shakespeare…..I would like to bring my daughter to the UK for a visit one day when she is older to see the globe theater, the british museum, buckingham palace and sherwood forest…

          • saxonsun

            Do it as soon as possible–the way things are going in England, there soon won’t be any mention of Shakespeare.

          • IstvanIN

            Life isn’t fair, EVER. So what if someone is born into a position of prestige and authority? I have never understood that way of thinking, reeks of jealously to me, sort of how governments charge estates outrageous inheritance taxes. And there is no reason why someone, based on their own initiative, brains and hard work can not life themselves into a higher status.

            In a hereditary monarchy how much fairer can you get than by getting the job through an accident of birth?

          • IstvanIN

            The only short coming your Queen has as head of state is that she has no real authority to balance out the powers the politicians have given themselves, although quite frankly she is probably glad she doesn’t have to fight the traitors in “her” government. If our elected leaders had her devotion to the people our nations wouldn’t be such disasters. Autocratic rule is rarely a good idea, but universal suffrage has proven to be a disaster in most nations.

            One race, one realm, one ruler is viable, just getting back there would be a nasty and bloody undertaking. Unfortunately the alternative is extinction.

          • IstvanIN

            Remember, the monarch doesn’t rule, they reign. Most monarchs actually have little to no power and certainly do not rule in any real sense. Having a head of state, above politics and raised for the job, has certain advantages. And with a constitution and a balanced form of government a bad or incompetent monarch could be removed from office.

          • PesachPatriot

            This is a fair point…there is a world of difference between the modern day windsor monarchy in the UK and the al-Saud monarchy in the arabian peninsula….kings and queens just seem like an anachronism to me in this day and age of smart phones and super computers…My dad said that the advantage of monarchy is that a monarch wishes to leave the country to his descendants in better shape than he found it….elected politicians just want to grab as much money and power as they can while in office and leave the mess for someone else to clean up….I’m pretty sure the windsor’s are pretty secure on their thrones for the immediate future….I do wonder why so many americans are so infatuated with this royal family when our country was founded by telling a king where he could stick his laws and taxes.

          • IstvanIN

            You get to vote for all the members of your House of Commons, how has that worked out for you.

            A pro-monarchy Jamaican once wrote about his country: “Why do politicians want a republic? The Queen holds the highest office in the land and it is the only one the politicians can not steal.” Something to think about.

          • TeutonicKnight67

            Many nations, including millions of Britons, revere their monarchs not as leaders but as National Icons. It’s a source of pride for them.

        • Pat

          Excellent post. If you are American, double excellent. The British monarchy gets a lot of attacks from posters on here. Americans chose Republicanism, we did not. Screaming abuse at a system you rejected is pointless when most of us support it. To be fair to the Queen she has said that if not wanted they would go. Never heard a politician say that.

          Your last paragraph, spot on.

        • Richard from Vancouver

          Actually, Queen Elizabeth is German or has a lot of German blood. She is a direct descendent of the house of Hannover whose first monarch was George I and whose last was Victoria. Queen Victoria married Albert a German prince and their heir was Edward VII the only monarch from the house of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. He married Alexandra of Denmark, and his heir George V married Mary of Teck, a German princess. George V, because of anti-German feelings during WWI, changed the house or family name to Windsor. His heir, George VI married Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, a Scottish aristocrat. Their heir is the present Queen Elizabeth II who married Philip Mountbatten a relative from Greece’s royal family who are direct descendents of Queen Alexandra. His surname, Mountbatten was changed during WWI by George V grom Battenberg to Mountbatten. So you see the Queen is German, Danish, and Scottish. Her heirs could be thought to have German, Danish, Scottish, and Greek blood. William and Harry have English blood however, as their mother, Diana was a Spencer.

          • IstvanIN

            She is the legitimate sovereign, she is British and that is all that matters.

  • cecilhenry

    In fact, let’s put this into plain English:

    “Sorry we tried (and are trying) to genocide your nation. We admit it.

    But don’t you dare get rude about it; show some tolerance and bear it.

    That’s it!! Thanks for your understanding!!!”

  • Robert L. Thomas

    Goodhart fails to see that multiculturalism and a British national identity are incompatible.When whites become a minority the nation that was once the United Kingdom will cease to exist.

  • IKantunderstand

    Mr. Goodhart , who should be renamed, Mr. Dumb Ass. Are you in fact saying that the immigrants who put up posters congratulating the Queen on her Diamond Jubilee are somehow more British than the native English? You state: “They have no choice but to celebrate the new diversity”. You sir, are correct. They have no choice. The English proles are the most put upon people of all creation. They have been treated like crap for centuries. To get away from the strangling effects of the British aristocracy, they fled to all corners of the world. And, built some of the most awe inspiring countries. Then, of course, we have the British proles, who were unable to get away, and who were immortalized by Dickens. No matter how smart, they were caught up in a class system that was akin to a PRISON. And now? They are right back to where they were one hundred years ago. Only this time, their oppressors, aren’t the Lords of the manor, but the government lackeys, ensuring equal outcomes for everybody, but the native English. They are right back where they started. Hello Oliver! Thanks Fagin! Good luck, Artful Dodger!

    • rightrightright

      If you saw any of the Jubilee celebrations, the crowds were 99.95% “hideously”white. Media cameras were frantically scanning for a black/brown face and zoomed in when they found one.

  • Other Guest

    Can somebody send this guy a ticket to Detroit so he can see what the ‘New Britain’ he and the other ‘social engineers’ imagine will really look like?

  • Der Typ

    After reading these two pieces by this author I just can’t help but think how selfish and self-centered these people are.They remind me of religious people who practice a religion not to find salvation or enlightenment but instead seek to demonstrate their moral superiority out of some deep seated insecurity.

    The other thing I don’t understand was his youthful disdain for the former national narrative and now his longing for some new civic religion. Once again we see more selfishness in this generation. Only they had the right to change society and when exactly to decide to stop changing society. Society was their plaything. These people suffer from the exact same delusions that the extremely religious suffer from. That is the overwhelming confidence in the importance of their existence. They are the lynchpin of the universe, or at least they think they are.

    This guy should take some monk like vow to never use I, me, we, my, mine, our, ours ever again. Before he dies he might just start to realize that there is a world outside of this little brain, the little tyrant.

  • MBlanc46

    So the drive for empire, and, after World War II, for cheap labor from the former colonies, has bitten the British in the bottoms at the end of the day.

  • bigone4u

    So the old folks aren’t adjusting well to the new multicultural monstrosity the politicians have given them. What the oldsters have is wisdom. But in reality it doesn’t take a lot of smarts to see that third world invaders have inferior brains, values, and cultures compared to Euro/white brains, values, and cultures. As white oldersters in the USA are thrown into a health care system, ObongoCare, dominated by blacks and browns, it’s easy to imagine a world in which euthanasia becomes the medicine for oldsters with wisdom. A deadly shot of morphine is a lot cheaper than several years in a senior care facility. Of course, Dear Leader would never approve of the murder of American “terrorists,” would he?

  • Glickstein44

    Must read–Psychological Mechanisms of White dispossession–also watch video of the Face of Immigration in London…


    • Pat

      The reason I no longer visit London. He has to speak Welsh to avoid being attacked for racism in our capital city.

  • Scabrous Little Pig

    My brother had a rather lovely flat in this area.

    As soon as he knew that the mosque was going to be built, he got the hell out.

  • Raspberry Jam Delta V

    Britons are delayed in understanding the importance of computers in establishing productive racial cohesion and fair perception of other races.

    Any country can open their borders to foreign people if they have the money, but no country can expect immigrants and the native population to assimilate without a diligent long-term effort between government, the people, and the immigrant.

    Given the state of Britain, where immigrants find the greatest cohesion in pockets, and government is absent in its oversight, Britons and immigrants are left in suspense to push for more socialism to ease the tension made by resolute immigration and a lack of skill and ability.

    In the end, computers will determine assimilation between the races of the world to the point where Britain and other western nations will find that immigration was never necessary to better white people at all.

    In the end, immigration was perhaps meant to attack ourselves for some corporations bottom line.

  • PDK/Kelto-Scandic

    All non-liberal whites, especially those of English speaking cultures and of NW European descent, may now wish to begin in earnest, a conversation about a white nationalst country of our own.

  • Koji Kanagawa

    Britain deserves this for having killed, raped and humiliated millions of africans, asians and native americans. Next comes Spain, France, Portugal and the Netherlands. Karma is a bitch. Deal with it !

    • Lance Kenishiro

      The true test of character is not how much we know how to do, but how we behave when we don’t know what to do. ~ John Holt

      • Wayne

        Both of you chumps, if you are Japanese (guessing based on name) better be real damned careful about crowing about karma. Real damned careful…or maybe you didn’t notice your big neighbor with years and years of grievance against you, and nuclear weapons.

    • Wayne

      The only humiliation they feel is because their civilizations can’t even match ours, although there are some great ones Asia. Africa-zilch. Americas-no manufacture whatsoever, no advances, no discoveries, one awful system of writing.
      But since you are on the grievance kick, what do the Mongols deserve? What do the Turks deserve? What do the Huns and Arabs deserve?
      Oh, and you are welcome to move yourself back to the paradises your stupid, unintelligent, lazy and incompetent forefathers built for you.

    • Wayne

      What does Japan deserve for what they did to China??? That’s some payback that is probably going to happen too!

  • Ella

    As England declines, so will America. I really believe the original British-established colonies will truly disappear as I’m witnessing (immigrant take-over). Both USA and England make the same mistakes and push the same social-engineering policies so unlike their historical achievements. Living in a mostly non-White US city, it will be very hard for our children to date and marry Whites or live a serene life. They’ll be pressured to give up their “whiteness” or their remnants of ethnicity.