Obama Proposes New Visa for Illegal Immigrants

Orlando Sentinel, February 17, 2013

The White House is circulating a draft immigration bill that would create a new visa for illegal immigrants living in the United States and allow them to become legal permanent residents within eight years, according to a report published online Saturday by USA Today.

President Obama’s bill would create a “lawful prospective immigrant” visa for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants living in the United States. The bill includes more security funding and requires business owners to adopt a system for verifying the immigration status of new hires within four years, the newspaper said.

The bill would require that immigrants pass a criminal background check, submit biometric information and pay fees to qualify for the new visa. Immigrants who served more than a year in prison for a criminal conviction or were convicted of three or more crimes and were sentenced to a total of 90 days in jail would not be eligible. Crimes committed in other countries that would bar immigrants from legally entering the country would also be ineligible.

{snip} Immigrants would be eligible to apply for a green card within eight years if they learned English and U.S. history and government, and they would later be eligible to become U.S. citizens.

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  • Puggg

    This is good news. Obama actually submitting a bill with Obama’s paw prints on them will decrease the chances that any bill, (which will surely be bad), ultimately passes.

  • The bill includes more security funding and requires business owners to adopt a system for verifying the immigration status of new hires within four years, the newspaper said.

    Interesting, and here in Illinois:

    All employers are required to report new employees to their state’s New Hire Directory within 20 days of the employee’s first day on the payroll. and provide all the necessary information.

    So a business has four years to verify immigration status, but only 20 days to report the hire to IDES, which manages unemployment compensation.

    So this country is more worried that a US citizen gets an extra week of unemployment?

  • mobilebay

    Why would a President want to give legal status/residency to people whose first act was to break our laws by sneaking in or overstaying their visas? They then compound the problem by giving fake names, presenting false documents or stolen IDs. Do we really need a nation populated by uneducted, poverty-stricken lawbreakers who will then have the ability to bring in all their closests relatives? Can you imagine what this country will look like in another decade. It’s almost unbearable to contemplate. This beauriful, once-proud nation will be just another third world hellhole. And all this aided and abetted by our own government.

    • Shiva

      Professional courtesy. Criminals mutually support each other.

    • tickyul

      90% of the illegals that get AMM-NASTY are going to vote for the Demorats.

      • I say B.S.! They’ll vote 100% for La Raza candidates.

        • tickyul

          I’m afraid you are probably right!

    • George White

      Because this President does not represent the citizens of the United States.

      • Room101

        He got the Nobel Prize for being a Halfrican anti-American whirled $#1T1zen.

    • Joseph

      “They then compound the problem by giving fake names, presenting false documents or stolen IDs.”

      How is that different than the behavior of His Hopefulness? It is no surprise that he supports these invaders.

    • Jaytee

      I wonder if this rule would apply to white South Africans as well.

    • saxonsun

      Why are these destructive people getting special treatment? They’re being treated like royalty when in reality they’re nothing.

  • bigone4u

    I don’t care about the details. It’s the principle of open borders and unlimited immigration implicit in Obama’s nonsense that matters. No one has ever explained how real American citizens benefit from amnesty or even from legal immigration. That’s because there is no net benefit. Obama and Congress and the federal bureaucracy can drop dead as far as I’m concerned.

    • Room101

      The Republican party is desperate to sign off on this amnesty/welfare deal with President Obama and stick the taxpayers with trillions more in spending, borrowing, and crushing debt run up by non-citizens.
      Both the Democratic and Republican parties are in lockstep agreement that US taxpayers will be held to account for all the bills of an as yet unknown population of foreign criminal illegal invaders into US territory.

      It is what it is and it isn’t surprising in the least.

    • Joseph

      This isn’t about how it benefits real Americans; it’s about “fairness”. The “benefits to all Americans” is just Nutrasweet icing on a pretend cake.

  • Jss

    I don’t understand how any illegal immigrant could pass a background check. They broke our immigration laws didn’t they? What’s the penalty for that in Mexico?

    • Room101

      It’s a far greater liability to be pinned down as being positively identified as an American subject than is faced by some criminal alien border jumper.
      American citizens are garbage and Enemy to the Federal Government to be expropriated @ will.
      They are the Warden and have a lot of clout over how this gigantic prison formerly known as the United States shall be run.
      As in most correctional facilities, things will shake out along racial lines.

  • The__Bobster

    The bill includes more security funding and requires business owners
    to adopt a system for verifying the immigration status of new hires
    within four years, the newspaper said.
    ____________

    Fool me once, shame on you….

    Even Reconquista Marquito Rubio now knows he’s been snookered.

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/senator-rubio-or-senator-rube

    The Drudge Report has broken its near embargo on the 2013 Amnesty campaign this
    morning, linking to Senator Marco Rubio’s anguished squeal of protest over the
    White House leaking of draft Amnesty legislation:

    It’sa mistake for the White House to draft immigration legislation without
    seeking input from Republican members of Congress,” Rubio said.

    “…The president’s bill repeats the failures of past legislation. It fails
    to follow through on previously broken promises to secure our borders,
    creates a special pathway that puts those who broke our immigration laws
    at an advantage over those who chose to do things the right way and
    come here legally and does nothing to address guest workers or future
    flow.

  • An immigration bill of some sort is inevitable. The Republicans have decided that being pro immigration is the only way they will ever win again. It is a sad state of affairs. Steve Sailor has an article on VDare that points out that this may not be the case.

    • anonymous

      I doubt if it matters at this point. With at least 10-12 million (a low estimate) of illegals living in the US, that horse has already left the barn. I guess we’re just going to have to adapt to living in a multicultural country with three major racial groups: whites, blacks and “Hispanics.”

      • Joseph

        No, there’ll be one major racial group, “people of color” and one minor racial group of no consequence, “whites”.

        • Jefferson

          Which of these 2 categories will Elizabeth Warren fall into ? Phenotype wise, she looks White. But in terms of identity, she identifies as a Person Of Color.

          • Joseph

            In MY calculus, if she wants to be “a person of color”, she is. Wanting to be one may be worse than just being born that way.

      • Marylander

        Latin America is more set in the colonial mindset than the U.S. It is an inconceivably divided region due to colorism and the entire effort to assert “Hispanic” as its own race, rather than ethnicity, is just an attempt to separate themselves from blacks. Also, the Hispanic title is inaccurate and misleading since a person could be asian, black, white, even Anglo, and still be considered “Hispanic” if born in Spain or any Latin American country. I’ve known platinum blondes who you’d swear were Central European and white Argentines whose grandparents fled Europe during WWII. If you think they’ll quietly be grouped into a single racial group, you have another thing coming.

      • Felix_M

        It does matter. When the country goes down the crapper, there need to be people to whom our fellow citizens and future generations can point to and say, “See There were people who fought back.”

        I will not pretend that these people amnestied by congress are any more than McCitizens and, like Obama and most of our congressmen and senators, cheap hustlers.

    • Shiva

      No. It was defeated in 2006. It can be defeated again. The simple fact is that the 1986 bill was an abysmal failure and that more of the same would make a bad situation even worse. Americans know this. We have proof.
      It really is do or die time. An amnesty this time really will be a dagger through the heart of the republic.

    • Room101

      The GOP has been entirely co-opted into less-than-worthlessness, in my estimation.
      Eff them.

  • Shiva

    Obama is working over time to destroy the country.

    • tickyul

      The Demorats are looking at the end-game………..total control.

    • Room101

      He can’t do it alone and most of the groundwork was laid long before Obama came along. The press is going to gush over all the Republicans like Grahamnesty and Sean Hannitamnesty and Karl Rove.
      The national Republican party doesn’t even want to win elections, they just want campaign contributions. Even if a Republican accidentaly won office, they would need to bribe the bureaucrats to show how to exploit it.

    • Dr. Möbias

      Good to see you here.

  • MikeofAges

    There will be a bill. The two parties in congress have been working on it. Why is Obama jumping in now? Well, Rush Limbaugh’s theory is that he want to make sure no bill passes so his party can stoke the furnace in 2014 and beyond. Keep in mind, an amnesty bill may give illegals residency. But it will be a long time before any large number of them become citizens, if ever. Many of them will not even apply for legalization.

    • George White

      Good. They can stay permanently “in the shadows,” of better yet just go home.

      • mobilebay

        Mr. White – I often wonder about the phrase…”In the shadows.” If you’re speaking of illegal aliens, please look around. They are hardly in the shadows. They can be found in groups marching in the streets, waving their countries flags, demanding their “rights,” they can also be found in classrooms, emergency rooms, prisons, all sorts of jobs, and primarily at the welfare offices. Look closer – they can be found driving drunk and putting innocent people at risk. They can be found as they present fake names, false documents and stolen IDs. They can be found doing jobs Americans used to do because they undercut wages. The many crimes committed here by illegal aliens would never had happened if they had not been here. Their first act was to boldly break into our country or overstay their visas, simply because they know our government will ignore their lawlessness. So those words can be banned, because illegals are not afraid of the bright light of day since they are aided and abetted by our own government.

        • saxonsun

          They are entirely in the open–we all see illegals working and ignore it.

  • ConcernedYoungAmerican

    I just read that net-migration is actually negative as of now, as Mexicans leave the United States because the economy is better south of the border. Let’s hope this trend continues! However, I fear that if this bill passes, it will only encourage more to flood in if/when our economy improves. While I disagree with the Republican Party’s social policies (Bible-beating is passe and actually encourages the dilution of the white race by encouraging “harmony” between different ethnic groups) and their enslavement to Wall Street, I’m cheering the House Republicans on to blow this disgusting piece of legislation up.

    • Joseph

      “I just read that net-migration is actually negative as of now, as
      Mexicans leave the United States because the economy is better south of
      the border”

      Even if this is true, it is probably the ones who have *some* saleable skill who are leaving. The ones who will still be swarming in will be the ones here to collect welfare and/or crap out a bunch of future beneficiaries at public expense. That does not sound like an improvement to me.

  • Greg Thomas

    Illegal invaders deserve nothing but deportation.

    • Room101

      There used to be a concept called “citizen’s arrest”.
      If you’re a reasonable person and believe a crime is being committed, you can hold the suspects @ gunpoint under citizen’s arrest until authorities arrive to sort it out.
      I suppose that’s just another example of “racism”.
      Not surprising.

      Our whole society is swirling the drain into something not good…

  • Frank

    What about back taxes and would they be eligible for SS benefits based on the money they have earned in the US?

  • bluffcreek1967

    Our President, including every member of his staff and all elected Democrats (many Republicans too!) are the enemies within.

  • Room101

    Both parties are openly saying to native-born law-abiding taxpaying American citizens how bad the Government wants to stick it to White taxpayers and call us “racists” to boot, so they can do what they want with OUR money WE WORKED our asses off for.
    The whole world could finally live in peace and reality if only a huge asteroid plowed into Washington D.C. when the whole media and government is there and they can’t get away in time.

    Read the British papers, the Australian, the German, the Dutch, the Swedish… all the countries or states where White people live.
    The people running our governments throughout the West consider that people born with White skin have no rights that “non-racist-Government” must respect. For the government-subject who happened to be born White to demand their non-existent rights is just so much proof of more expectations of “White-Privilege” and “racism” and the like Expectations of equal-treatment-under-the-law are right out the window if you admit to being white.. Government won’t lift a finger to help someone the database shows is just a white/caucasian/Racist-American if attacked by an emerging majority/”diverse

  • Jefferson

    Hussein Obama was not kidding when he said he was going to bring change to America, CHANGE FOR THE WORST.

    White America is going to be a lot worst off in 2016 than it was in 2008.

    • Room101

      There never used to be such a thing known as “White America”.

      Now there is.

      • RebelliousTreecko

        Back then, when the U.S. was homogenous, it was just called “America”.

        • room101

          Nevertheless.

          Who or what is Enemy #1 to government?
          Racist-Americans, or taxpaying law-abiding White folks.
          It’s plain as day for all to see.

        • Marylander

          The U.S. was never homogenous. There were just certain people that we didn’t count as American because they were here first or they were property. Welcome to the aftermath of colonization.

      • skara_brae

        There never used to be a thing known as “…to be a lot worst off…” either.
        Now there is.

  • Shattered

    I’m amazed that most Democrats go along with all of this. Don’t they realize that it’s going to take money out of their pockets?

    • Room101

      High-level Democrats print the money borrowed and inflate away their debts, they don’t actually pay real money on all their fake hand-shakes They can eliminate people who might cause them unpleasantness or temporarily embarrass them. People who vote Democrat are by and large just parasites on working Americans who are just trying to pay all our bills and taxes on time while Democrats keep screaming how “racist” we are just for going to work.

      That’s today’s Democrat party.
      Take a look around, brother.
      Everyone else is.

  • Diamond_Lil

    And there is nothing in that bill that would prevent another invasion in twenty years except for inevitable crash of our economy within that time as a result of this amnesty. These illegals will not follow any laws, not now, not in the future. Who does he think he’s kidding?

  • Obama cannot celebrate the peoples who made America. He was appointed for the job as president for this very reason.

    • Marylander

      Correction: Obama cannot celebrate the peoples who made America…on the backs of slave labor and the graves of the natives.

      • Bill

        You’re kidding, right? Else why in H are you here? Preaching to people who know better and have had their eyes wide open for a long time that what they see and believe is in error, and scolding them to accept the fantasy of the democrats, liberals, self hating white, and brain dead indoctrinated government school graduates as to the nature and abilities of the blacks and native savages is akin to either self delusion or just plain insanity.

        • Marylander

          You suddenly know better? What is it that you know about government schools and would that be from your own public education or are you just guessing? I’m here because I actually believe in inclusion of all races in the debate on how this society should operate and I believe that if you want to be a racial realist, then be an actual realist not a bitter racist that makes everyone else look bad. The natives you call savages were as civilized as the Anglo-Saxons from which many modern whites descend, with the difference that they weren’t given the chance develop before settlers wiped them out and moved the rest to resourceless regions. They experienced a genocide and it’s a fact. As far as blacks are concerned, are you really going to pretend that slave labor didn’t build the U.S? That would be like saying Europeans didn’t import over 10 million people into the New World…oh, wait! That’s exactly what you’re saying. None of these things are delusions. You may choose to live in a fantasy world where blacks are so obviously inferior to whites yet manage to wield all this power out of nowhere, but the rest of use should know the truth that the whites’ affirmative action project that has been the history of colonization and the New World until the 1960s cannot sustain itself. The disenfranchised races have been slowly regaining their humanity that we deprived them of and want citizenship. I’m not a self-hating white person or even someone who feels guilty for slavery, segregation, or racism, but we can’t deny that it happened and continues to feed our nation’s problems. If anything, you’re self-hating, brain dead, and delusional because of your own desire to bypass the truth about our country out of shame, bitterness, and prejudice. You must feel responsible for the circumstances of minorities. Or are you just jealous that the descendants of slaves are being given some credit for the land we stole? Do you think blacks are gaining up on you and feel the urge to push them back down? If you answered yes to any of these questions, congrats! You’ve accepted the fantasy of the democrats, liberals, self-hating white, and brain dead that racial progress is a competition and you might lose.

  • Andy

    So the ones who wouldn’t qualify for it (serious criminals) would just continue not to get deported, right?

  • tex girl

    11 illegals million my white ass. Its more like 40-50 million. Hells there 11 million illegals right here in Texas alone and probably just in Houston

  • Matt

    This country will have a currency crisis in a few years anyway from taking care of all the lazy people anyways.

  • ImTellinYa

    Obama, that sorry, affirmative-action parasite and common criminal has essentially announced that he will continue to import a new, nonWhite people. In other words under Obama, our “government” will continue to be the enemy of its own country and will ramp up the destructive invasion of third-world savages.

    This one is going to be hard to stop. I’ve never seen the Republicans more cowardly and ready to grovel, and the GOP hasn’t been of much use at all since the 80s. That Leftist gargoyle McCain and that rattle-brained traitor Rubio are screaming like weenies on the BBQ to open the floodgates to millions of hostile, third-world savages.

    I think it’s time Whites realize that our country is gone. It has been occupied and is governed by hostile anti-Americans whose top priority is displacing, disarming, criminalizing and dispossessing Whites. Nothing we say is going to stop that. The Leftist tyrants are, in fact, seriously discussing legislation that will outlaw freedom of speech. I’ve recently read several bland “reasonable” and “nuanced” opinion pieces that want to finally finish imposing politically-correct tyranny on the U.S.

    Anyway, the Left is about to start its victory lap and the damage will be unbelievable. That cynical power and money grab, ObamaCare, is about to kick in. That in itself will be a terribly aggressive tool for dispossessing Whites. I’ve seen problems with it already. It will be an affirmative-action Disneyland. Say hello to Dr. DeShawn.

    We’ve talked and we’ve voted for decades, and things have only gotten worse because of the increasing victory of the Leftist agenda. They are now very close to a total victory. The Republicans are now nothing but a submissive collection of whipping boys for the Democrats to abuse.

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