Immigration Is British Society’s Biggest Problem, Shows Survey of Public

Daniel Boffey, Guardian (London), January 12, 2013

Immigration is regarded by the public as the biggest issue facing British society, a major new survey taking stock of the state of the country reveals.

One in three people believes tension between immigrants and people born in the UK is the major cause of division, while well over half regard it as one of the top three causes.

Over the past two decades, both immigration and emigration have increased to historically high levels, with those entering the country exceeding those leaving by more than 100,000 in every year since 1998.

Yet the survey in a report by the thinktank British Future, entitled “State of the Nation: Where is Bittersweet Britain Heading?”, also suggests the country is, at heart, tolerant of those who come to its shores.

Respect for the law, for the freedom of speech of others, and an ability to speak English were seen as the three most essential traits of a Briton, according to the survey of 2,515 people aged between 16 and 75. These were the top criteria across all ages and social classes.

While one in four thinks being born here is important to being British, two-thirds of people believe the welfare state should be open to those born abroad who have contributed to society and play by the rules.

The poll results are being released as communities secretary Eric Pickles prepares to give a major speech this week in which he will announce further efforts to aid integration. Pickles will say that a mastery of English is the key to social mobility and essential if people of different generations want to get on. He will stress that a shared language is vital for our economy. And he will highlight it is as the key to uniting people and increasing their understanding of one another.

Sunder Katwala, director of British Future, said the survey highlighted a national anxiety about immigration to which national politicians needed to respond. However, he also noted that the results suggested that when people thought about their local areas, there was less concern. While 30% placed immigration first when thinking about tensions facing British society as a whole, only 19% chose it as the most divisive issue in their own area.

There was also very little correlation between the geographical distribution of immigrants and the levels of concern. Immigration was regarded as the most divisive issue for 19% of people in north-east England and 20% in Wales—where the 2011 census shows one in 20 people were born abroad—and for 20% of Londoners, where immigrants make up one in three of the population.

Katwala said: “People are obviously very anxious about immigration. But I was struck by how much higher it was as a national rather than a local tension. That to me suggests that managing local tensions is obviously very important, but it is probably not the answer entirely because people have this national-level concern.

“I think it would be wrong to say that local concerns are real and national concerns are just driven by the media, but I think what is going on there is people asking: does the system work? And I don’t think anyone has any confidence as how it is managed as a system. Also there is a concern around national cohesion, identity and ability to cope with the scale of change.”

The survey, by Ipsos MORI, also discovered a high proportion of people who were pessimistic about the British economy (50%). Nearly half (46%) said Britain was heading in the wrong direction, but there was an improvement on last year’s figures when 74% were pessimistic.Three in four also believe Britain is in a housing crisis.

Yet, in a vindication of the position of planning minister Nick Boles, who is championing the building on greenfield sites to meet demand, all age groups still describe buying rather than renting as their ideal.

In further findings, the NHS emerged as the institution that made nearly half (45%) of people feel most proud to be British, ahead of the armed forces, Great Britain’s Olympic team and the royal family.

Nearly three in four (72%) said the NHS was a symbol of “what is great about Britain and we must do everything we can to maintain it”.

British Future’s report notes: “The NHS played a key part in the Olympics opening ceremony that—to many people’s surprise—left them feeling here was a Britain that could confidently combine the best aspects of its traditional and modern culture.”

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  • David Ashton

    “Nothing” can be done about the forthcoming mass-immigration from Bulgaria and Romania where living-standards are low. The defenders say that British workers have free movement around the EU too, but the numbers, target sites, employment motivations and welfare facilities are not comparable. The British Islands are Magnet No 1.

    • StillModerated

      I’d rather have drunken Romanians and Bulgars that heathen Pakis any day of the week.

      • StillModerated


      • steve7789

        Most “Romanians” will be gypsies

        • Token Finn


        • StillModerated

          Romanians hate gypsies because they refuse to assimilate, they steal, and they murder. If it’s government policy to exile their crappy underclass, then it might be a decent place for civilized people to live. The Austrians had no beef with them.

    • And this is precisely what will happen to the US if the arseholes in Washington make one great big union between the US, Canada and Mexico. We do NOT need closer ties with third world countries.

      If closer ties with poor, uneducated masses were really desireable, our elites would send their kids to schools in the inner city and live in the South Bronx, Anacostia and Watts.

      Never listen to what they say. Always watch what they do.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      The EU is the end of Britain. I’m hoping Scotland can break free of The UK in 2014 and pull out of The EU. Scotland can still be saved.

      • David Ashton

        Last time I checked, Salmond’s multicultural SNP wants to join the EU and is not against Afro-Asians helping to fill those empty spaces.

  • ArmenianWN

    In any society Immigration is a very big problem. Whites should live among their own people, not surrounded by Muslims and Blacks from third world countries.

  • NYB

    The Guardian has managed to take a baby step towards admitting all is not well with immigration. When the cracks in the façade spread to the far left, a general consensus across the full political spectrum is not far off.
    Five years ago the Guardian would not have said this. Now they have no choice.

  • If I were a third world foreigner, I would definately come, even illegally. Once I’m in The U.K., France, Germany, or some other castrated white country, I would start sneaking my entire family over, especially the pregnant ones.
    I already know the leaders of those countries, as well as the common folk, aren’t going to do anything about it.

    • SintiriNikos

      What do you mean ‘aren’t going to do anything about it’? They will openly encourage it and attack any citizen or politician who opposes the invasion.

  • So CAL Snowman

    Browns and blacks flee their home countries to get away from their people and the conditions their people created and can’t understand why White people want NOTHING to do with them. Their fragile little egos simply cannot handle the fact that we do not want to live with them or near them in our countries.

  • guest

    “Brits believe tension between immigrants and natives is a major cause of division.”

    And here we’ve always been told that this immigration is good for our countries. And everytime there’s conflict and tension between these immigrants and the native-born citizens, what’s the only way to handle it? Bringing in more immigrants, which always ends up with more divisions and culture clashes and as usual, the only solution to that problem is to bring in more immigrants. But fortunately, it seems that several people are now waking up and seeing this immigration for the problem that it is.

    • The__Bobster

      what’s the only way to handle it? Bringing in more immigrants, which
      always ends up with more divisions and culture clashes and as usual, the
      only solution to that problem is to bring in more immigrants.

      The native people must also be demonized and silenced, too, by the elites. After all, they are eeeevil racists for protesting their displacement.

    • The most effective way to correct the problem is to first extirpate the “elites”…of every political stripe… who are aiding and abetting the invasion.

  • Robert Marchenoir

    “Mastery of English is the key to social mobility” — The government.

    When a minister resorts to stating the blindingly obvious, it means that the situation is really bad. “Social mobility”, i.e. not ending up in jail or on the dole, requires much more from Third-world immigrants than mastery of English.

  • Now it is after midnight here as I write this, and I have been up since work at 7.30am, so forgive me if I am not seeing this straight.

    “There was also very little correlation between the geographical distribution of immigrants and the levels of concern. Immigration was regarded as the most divisive issue for 19% of people in north-east England and 20% in Wales—where the 2011 census shows one in 20 people were born abroad—and for 20% of Londoners, where immigrants make up one in three of the population”

    Could it be (in part) that the figure is only 20% in the North East because they have not yet been so inundated, and that the figure is so low (at 20%) in London because 33% of them ARE actually immigrants and not likely to be against themselves? (Or conversely so high, because they do not appreciate the overcrowding and competition from each other).

    I notice the clever use of “born abroad”. Yes, by definition that is an immigrant, but they should realise for example, that for many, if not most, any non-whites are still tended to be seen as immigrants when people talk about the way the country is changing.

    The researchers are mistaken if they think people are not concerned about places like Bradford and Blackburn just because a vast majority Pakistanis are “born here” and speak English.

    But of course, I doubt a study from a group directed by a “Sunder Katwala” will really understand what the fundamental issue is. People not speaking English is often an annoyance, not the direct cause of the discomfort, in my opinion.

    I may get around to reading the document some time. For now, I suppose like others have said, anything that pierces the Guardian bubble might be worthwhile, even though it will be nowhere near what we all think and feel in here.

    The cynic in me cursorily dismisses it as another smokescreen, another fake piece of mood music, another tool to try and massage away peoples concerns, another study that aims to shape the issues and society to their own ends by focussing on specific side-effects of immigration.

    • Pat

      ‘anything that pierces the Guardian bubble might be worthwhile’…we can all live in hopes I suppose. The only time I ever read it is on this site. Completely agree with your observations.

    • David Ashton

      Thanks to The Bobster (above) I have been reading through the output of this “British Future” pro-miscegenation and pro-immigration “think-tank”. Its Director, Sunder Katwala, writes that “the diversity of our multi-ethnic and multi-faith society is an ineradicable fact. This is who we are…. None of us can opt out of our shared responsibility to make it work…there is more to do to make [an inclusive Britain] a reality.”
      Anglocide by stealth.

      • I have been reading some of their site, and it is enough to make you weep. I am further annoyed at how they have stolen a name which was floating around to be for a nationalist party/group, when various names were being put forward.

        It did not happen, so I guess the boat was missed. A planned name of ‘British Future’ was supposed to be relating to a future for the British, not every biped who has happened to land here.

        These people have a cheek and a nerve to celebrate their “future Britain”.

        As for ‘none of us can opt out of the responsibility to make it work’ – well I have opted out of it!

        • David Ashton

          So have I.
          Their cunning knows no bounds.
          George Soros (the one man who broke the British exchanges) seems to be among its fundmeisters,

  • The__Bobster

    Can we guess what tribe is funding this Quisling organization?

    • David Ashton

      Thank you for reminding me and others to check the Funding, Trustees and Policies of this group.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      I read a few articles on British”foreigner” and it made my blood boil.

  • shattered

    Slowly the light bulb turns on.

  • potato78

    British will say:

    ‘Shut up Indians you half wit! We dont hate immigrants we hate spongers who come over here looking for a free ride on the backs of us hard working tax payers!’

    • David Ashton

      Australindia…Mexicamerica, Chinada.

    • GM (Australia)

      Those links you have supplied make very interesting but unfortunately not always intelligent reading.Reading between the lines one can see how much frustration there really is “out there” regarding inappropriate 3rd world immigration. Regarding England one regular comment I get from friends & family who have visited there recently is that the place is just” full of foreigners” and the motor traffic in the south is awful. (As in overcrowded)

  • Barrack Osama

    One of the richest cultures and greatest powers in history is being erased over some vague platitudes about diversity, multiculturalism, and whatnot. The entire thing is disgusting and ridiculous. How do they stay sane watching it happen so plainly?

    • StillModerated

      It serves them right for scoffing and pooh-poohing at Enoch Powell 45 years ago. The warnings were given, the watchmen sounded the trumpet, but the liars in the gutter press lulled everybody back to sleep, obey, watch TV, and consume.

      • SintiriNikos

        I’m sure the pooh-poohing wasn’t being done by the majority of Englishmen. The people were never asked for permission.

      • GM (Australia)

        I remember the headlines from those times, he was treated pretty badly. The fact that some 45 years on he is now being more favorably remembered should give us all some encouragement.
        I am certain that more and more Britons than ever are now saying “he was right after all”

        • DudeWheresMyCountry?

          Did anyone really really believe having a few million Pakistanis and Africans in all the cities on the public dole would be anything but a completely awful and horrible idea?

          • GM (Australia)

            That is an extremely interesting question and the obvious answer by any thinking person is a resounding NO. But the people, most newspapers and every type of do-gooder said “This is great”. The British government spent millions of pounds encouraging diversity, setting up a draconian Race Relations Board, and introducing every manner of anti-discrimination and human rights laws all of which are essentially anti-white, anti Christian and anti-English(Language). These laws are now used against white Britons and have essentially been copied by every other formerly white nation. Enoch Powell was reviled and generally condemned together with the Apartheid regime in South Africa and American South politicians such as Governor Wallace.

            It amazes me that white people back then could not see the dangers of what was happening and it still amazes me that so many white people out there can still not see a problem.

            I will now ask 2 questions;

            1, Is Western society any better of or safer or more harmonious because of massive 3rd world immigration and the associated human rights laws worldwide?

            2, Can someone please advise me of any successful multicultural/multiracial society anywhere?

          • potato78

            If Indians, Bangladeshis and Africans could not rule their own country very good.

            And make their own country so dirty and filthy. Can you believe that they can change once they move to your country or neighbor, they can make your country better or your neighbor better? Maybe.



    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      How do we as well stay sane watching America die? Nothing hurts and angers me more except most American’s apathetic attitudes and ignorance concerning the destruction of their own civilization, their own heritage.

  • Chisle

    The British Isles are among the smallest countries on earth. Why are they opening their doors to immigrants…have no idea.

    • OlderWoman

      EU, NWO

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      Labour Party multicultural treason, much like our beloved anti-White party, The Democrats. The EU is anti-White as well and a powerful force in it’s virtual captive member states, The UK included.

      • David Ashton

        We need a Union of Europeans not this “EU”.

  • bigone4u

    I bought a copy of the London Times Historical World Atlas the other day at a thrift store, a huge oversized book of maps and commentary. The maps show that throughout history there have been an astonishing number of mass migrations. One group invading the lands of another group has happened again and again. There certainly is from what I see in the Atlas no pure European race. African, Asian, and middle eatern genes course through the blood of many Europeans. You can see it in their faces too.
    In historical terms it appears that the mass migration to Europe, Britain, and the US is just another round of history. That doesn’t mean I have to like it though.

    • maxonepercent

      Unless you count what is happening today, there have been no mass migrations into Scandinavia. The Baltic Sea area is where the “white” race developed its characteristic blue eyes and blonde hair. To say the ethnic Nordic people are not a “pure European race” is ridiculous.

      • bigone4u

        I think you’re correct. I believe the influx from the south got into northern Germany but not any further north.

    • Pat

      Unfortunately the difference now is the speed of immigration, the huge numbers involved and the variety of races ‘on the move’. The second and third world outnumber us in the modern world 5 – 1. All they need do is turn up and unlike in the past they do not even have to fight to get in. Our doors are wide open.

    • David Ashton

      Might be worth listing all the displacements, repatriations, expulsions, returns-home and deportations world-wide from 1946 to 2013. If others can do it with impunity, so can we.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      The migrations, i.e. conquests of the past were the result of one group being stronger than another. In Orwellian America our conquest is occurring because our “friends” to the south are so much weaker than we are. Their inferiority is one of our Achilles’ Heels.

  • LHathaway

    Racism, harassment, menacing, even violence and murder – this is now called ‘tension’. When they come to kill the next Britain, when they come to kill you, it will appear in the news under the headline ‘tensions’, sandwiched in between two stories about ‘poor people of color’.

  • LHathaway

    We have eugenics unofficially taking place in this country. We’re getting bigger and stronger. Perhaps in the future, their great minds and our great bodies will clash and everyone will get to see who really has the best eugenics program. Seriously, though, I hope what the author has to say at the end of his article is how it all really goes down.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      More like dysgenics.

      • Unperson

        Dysgenics is what you’re going to get any time you’re not actively practising eugenics. There’s no middle ground. And because eugenics is such a verboten subject these days, what’s taking place by default is dysgenics — rampant dysgenics. A downward spiral, spinning a little faster with each passing year. Idiocracy on the installment plan.

        • David Ashton

          I heard recently that half the female university students in Britain do not intend to have children. (Of course, accidents can happen while clubbin’ nome sane?)

  • KenelmDigby

    Nothing new here. Move along.
    Exactly the same story for 60 years running.
    Of course the politicians will huff and puff – and do absoultely nothing whatsoever. No change there.

  • rightrightright

    “That to me suggests that managing local tensions is obviously very important, but it is probably not the answer entirely because people have this national-level concern.” quoth the third worlder. I see. “Manage” people’s fears rather than attending to people’s fears. He and his kind would say that, wouldn’t they?

  • LastBastionOfHope

    All this forced diversity sure is working wonders! Diversity really is a strength! Seriously though, Jared Taylor needs to get more exposure on Fox, MSNBC, CNN, etc.

    • Vastly needed, but unless he starts cussing and screaming and using vituperative, well then, there’s no room for him on shock value nut talk TV. The only people who get to go on TV are “conservative” emaciated barbie dolls who call liberals names involving human waste, left wing kooks disguised as anchors emeritus who say that if we beat the Nazis that we can surely beat the NRA, football players with pretend girlfriends, and three sisters who are only famous for being famous.

      So little attention was paid to the best book of the last two years, White Identity that JT might as well have screamed it from the middle of Antarctica instead of had it published on paper.

  • rockman

    is the British culture worth fighting for that is the question

  • Remember the case of the so called tram rant women -the youtube-film. The evil British state are making more attempts to frame her- see

  • SintiriNikos

    It’s quite telling that a person named Sunder Katwala is the director of British Future.

    • GM (Australia)

      He is part Indian, part Irish, a political activist, a jounalist and a member of the Fabian Society, and if that is not bad enough he used to work for the British NHS. Yes, it looks like he is the future of poor old Blighty. Makes you wonder why they bothered fighting a couple of wars last century.

      • SintiriNikos

        The Irish part is a good indicator of how much this person loathes England.

        I would say the Brits have it coming for their aggressions on Germany and goading them into war. But that was the government, not the people. I pity the people, unless it is true what they say, that we all get the government we deserve.

        • David Ashton

          The government has got the people it deserves, but the electoral system and the deceit of the political class on immigration have made effective rebellion expensive and difficult.

  • Ulick

    When other races see the government ignoring their wishes they take to the streets in vocal protest. When whites see the government ignoring their intersts they take to the internet in silent protest. We need less talking and more doing.

  • FourFooted_Messiah

    Building on green sites to meet demand because of immigration. Yep, that’s where we’re headed – the “fill the world with humans” crowd is winning. To hell with parks, and with wildlife – third world people must be coddled. Bring them all and put them on the green spaces. Because, after all, the kids of third worlders who breed like cockroaches are more important than wild plants and animals, eh?

    Pfft. I’d rather take the immigrants and feed them to our needy Canadian wildlife, thanks.

  • Whirlwinder

    My dear European friends, the gig is up. Since the 60’s France, and then the EEC and finally the EU has partnered with Islam. Maybe the elite leadership thought there would be some benefit to the EU from this but we are now seeing the horror of it all. In partnering with Islam the EU is helping them to dominate the world and Europe is knuckling under very fast. Islam drove a wedge between Europe and America who used to be pretty good friends and now the EU hates America as much as Islam does. Islam mirrored its hatred of all things Israeli onto Europe and now Europe hates Israel and loves the Palestinian Authority. The EU has spent billions propping up the PA. And Islam gets an A+ for driving a wedge between the EU and Israel/America. Divide and conquer. Islam has brought all of this about in its run for world domination and Europe will be in servitude as dhimmis very soon. There is no way to back out of the associations, such as the Alliance of Civilizations and the Anna Lindh Group. These are the culmination of years of alliances between the EU and Islam and guess who has benefited the most. The light of western civilization is going out in Europe because Islam will not tolerate any history beyond 632 AD and the beginning of Islam. If there is a way out of an Islamizied Europe, somebody please make me a liar.

  • whitepony87

    I wonder if these people were rounded up and jailed shortly after for their negative views towards immigration and the new Magical European Rainbow Utopia Society? Doesn’t the local Thought Police Department pay you a visit for voicing any type of opinion that is perceived as “racist” in the UK?

  • Dougie

    Sunder Katwala, director of British Future – says it all really.

  • Laager

    Britains second biggest problem will be the birthrate the third world immigrants bring with them from Africa.

  • Gary

    The British people, like the American people, are arbitrarily being punished by their leftist leader’s dictatorial socialist ambitions, and are now simply disconnected from any effective power or control over their lives and fate.

  • Transpower

    The only decent place to live in Europe is Switzerland….