Why Hispanics Don’t Vote for Republicans

Heather Mac Donald, National Review, November 7, 2012

The call for Republicans to discard their opposition to immigration amnesty will grow deafening in the wake of President Obama’s victory. Hispanics supported Obama by a margin of nearly 75 percent to 25 percent, and may have provided important margins in some swing states. {snip}

{snip} It is not immigration policy that creates the strong bond between Hispanics and the Democratic Party, but the core Democratic principles of a more generous safety net, strong government intervention in the economy, and progressive taxation. Hispanics will prove to be even more decisive in the victory of Governor Jerry Brown’s Proposition 30, which raised upper-income taxes and the sales tax, than in the Obama election.

And California is the wave of the future. A March 2011 poll by Moore Information found that Republican economic policies were a stronger turn-off for Hispanic voters in California than Republican positions on illegal immigration. Twenty-nine percent of Hispanic voters were suspicious of the Republican party on class-warfare grounds—“it favors only the rich”; “Republicans are selfish and out for themselves”; “Republicans don’t represent the average person”—compared with 7 percent who objected to Republican immigration stances.


And a strong reason for that support for big government is that so many Hispanics use government programs. U.S.-born Hispanic households in California use welfare programs at twice the rate of native-born non-Hispanic households. And that is because nearly one-quarter of all Hispanics are poor in California, compared to a little over one-tenth of non-Hispanics. {snip}

The idea of the “social issues” Hispanic voter is also a mirage. A majority of Hispanics now support gay marriage, a Pew Research Center poll from last month found. The Hispanic out-of-wedlock birth rate is 53 percent, about twice that of whites.

The demographic changes set into motion by official and de facto immigration policy favoring low-skilled over high-skilled immigrants mean that a Republican party that purports to stand for small government and free markets faces an uncertain future.

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  • Puggg

    Hispanics are welfare and gibsmedat voters.  We’ve known that for a long time.  Even a well known Hispanic politician said as much a few years back, that Hispanic voters think almost entirely of welfare programs when they vote.

    • The__Bobster

      But they have great familia values and are such hard workers. Natural Republicans, so say the squatty Republican advisors.

      • crystal evans

        I have heard the same thing said about Blacks, they are churchgoing, a lot of them are against abortion and gay marriage but they continue to vote Democratic.

        • IstvanIN

           I never understood the whole Republican idea that you can build a nation around disliking gays.  No other bonds needed.  No wonder they lost.

          • bluffcreek1967

            In fairness now, that’s not “the whole Republican idea.” Many Republicans are supportive of gays rights and gay marriage even though the core of the party is not. The entire Republican platform does not rest on either gay marriage, women’s rights or even abortion. These are a part of it, no doubt, but there is much more to it than your rather simplistic statement would suggest.  

          • Eagle_Eyed

             Oh yeah, there is nothing more conservative than celebrating sodomy.  “Gays” make up 2% of the population.  Conservative Christians make up much more. 

    • crystal evans

      I wonder if there will be more Hispanics on welfare than Blacks?

  • alas

    Well I must say for a while I had bought into the whole ‘hispanics as natural allies of republicans’ mantra, but clearly I was wrong. No wonder California is nearly bankrupt.

    • Stan_Mute

      It’s easy to fall for the “Hispanic family values voters” line. If you visit almost any central or South American country you see those values at work. Multiple generations stay in a home or family compound together, breadwinners will essentially commute to the US and send home 90% of what they earn.

      It took me some time also to reconcile what I see there with what I see here..

      What we have done, what our leftist government has done, is take a perfectly good people and destroy them. They have trained them to despise whitey, to blame whitey for the poverty in which they have lived for millennia, and to believe whitey owes them everything. In a nutshell, we’ve taken a people who were perfectly happy in a mid to low caste in a racial caste based system, and turned them into American negroes. Here they abandon their elders and their children to the state and demand government support and favoritism just as the negroes do. This would be unthinkable in their village back home.

      • pcmustgo

        Latinos do have an incredible sense of EXTENDED FAMILY. Much like Blacks. In a way, Blacks have “stronger family values” if you count Aunts and Grannies raising children that aren’t theirs….this is normal for them.

        If you go by FATHERS supporting their kids or sticking around or Mothers even knowing who the father is, than no.

        Ditto for Latinos. If you had any experience with Puerto Ricans and the other Latinos, it’s amazing to see them operate as clans, with the older brothers raising the younger ones and the cousins there too. They really operate as a gang- the extended family. Cousins, brothers, aunts, etc.

        Vdare.com once noticed that Latinos have no civil/community groups because Latinos don’t really need friends- they have such HUGE families, they have all the friends they need in their numerous brothers and sisters and cousins. When you have 14 brothers and sisters, who needs “outside” friends?

        Whites are colder and more distant. We move 1000’s of miles away from family. But the NUCLEAR family is more important. And fathers are expected to pay and pay and pay. 

        So it’s a different form of family. 

        • crystal evans

          In this case of Puerto Ricans, many times the father is Uncle Sam.

        • IstvanIN

           Blacks do not have better family values than whites.  The females simply dump their kids on the generation that is too old to partay. And by the way, grannies and AUNTies get paid by the government to raise those chillins.

      • bannister

        Another excellent comment- I had never thought of it that way. 

    • Pelayo

      The truth is the the majority of Hispanic Republicans are Cubans. I’ll never understand why Hispanics who are legal citizens and many who are third generation American citizens would want to stick up for these illegals. Why do they feel the obligation to close ranks with people who only negatively influence THEIR lives? Is it because they speak the same language?
      As an Italo-American I don’t protest the prosecution of Cosa Nostra leaders and their minions.

      • Rob

        Cubans USED to be GOP but they voted for Clinton TWICE, voted for Gore in 2000, voted for Kerry in 2004, and voted for Obama in 2008. I haven’t seen any stats as yet on how they voted on Tuesday.

        • CAP

           They were polling 76% for Romney and 19% for Obama, with 5% undecided, as of 11/05/2012.    They voted Republican an average of 69% from 1996 through the 2000 election cycle: 60% for Dole; 74% for Bush; 78% for Bush; and 63% for McCain (CTP/University of Miami). 

          • anmpr1

             The latest results I’ve seen show that the Cuban vote edged toward Obama this time, at about 51-52%.  Younger Cubans who don’t know about Fidel and Raul are no longer Nixonites.   These people are abandoning white Republicans.  Now it is time for whites to abandon the Republicans, as the leaders continue on their blind march looking for the Hispanic vote.

          • CAP

             They’re not abandoning anyone; they voted 58% for Romney, who once (ignorantly) concluded an event in Miami by reciting Castroite slogans, and against Ryan, and his cynical, naked attempt to pander by a late hour reversal of his previous stand to lift (what’s left of) the U.S. embargo of Cuba), by Ryan. 

        • CAP

           Check your facts, Rob; you’re spreading falsehoods based on democrat polling firms, according to hearsay exit polling, absent mail-ballots. 

          In fact, Cuban-Americans voted more than 80% twice for Reagan; 60% for Dole versus Clinton in 1996; 74% and 78% for George Bush; 63% for McCain; and 58% for Romney, per CTP/University of Miami, and Dr. Dario Moreno  and Dr. Kevin Hill. 

    • ImTellinYa

       Really Hispanics are essentially overgrown adolescents. Very touchy, self-centered, short-sighted, impulsive, overly emotional. Steve Sailer once wrote about observing Hispanics in Los Angeles on a holiday where hundreds of them congregated in a massive public park to mainly get wasted and go wild. There was an idiot there renting horses to ride (without a permit or facilities or oversight). There were huge numbers of fights. A lot of accidents where people got hurt. The main reaction to bad things happening because of their immature behavior was : “What a tragedy!! Who could have foreseen such a thing?!” It’s ironic but Leftists spend a lot of time making fun of “Rednecks.” When Leftists describe a Redneck, they are thinking it’s a White, but really the Leftist fantasy of the Redneck is actually a fairly typical Hispanic.

  • Frank

    This article tells us exactly why we do not want or need more Hispanics!

  • Pelagian

    It’s just pure tribal loyalty.  It has nothing to do with principles whatsoever.  They have perceived that the Democratic Party “likes” them and is “for” them and is more tolerant of them in general.  It was kind of like why I voted for Romney

    • bannister

      That’s basically it. Well put. 

  • They vote for the very policies that will keep them in eternal poverty (they would be poor anyways, but still).  They implicitly understand that the White man has more than him so the Hispanics have figured out that they can simply vote their share of his money into his pockets.  Why work hard and value individual accomplishment when you can just STEAL in a big group?

  • Why Hispanics Don’t Vote Republican = Because they are dependent on welfare handouts to keep their standard of living above that which they would have in Mexico.

  • Henry Clay

    Any immigration “reform” must include quid pro quos of secure borders, end of birthright citizenship of the children of  illegal aliens, and the end of many freebies such as welfare, education, and medical care (unless it is life or death). I never hear Republicans making any commonsense statements about this.  I am afraid that “gay marriage” is more important to them than putting an end to our open borders and racial replacement.  People–before you give money to your liberal churches and United Way, consider sending that money to Am Ren. We must begin to fight back with whatever we have. 

    • crystal evans

      Welfare and other public assistance programs should be like medicaid, where there is a five year waiting period before a green card holder can get medicaid.

  • pcmustgo

    OK, WHY DON’T ASIANS???????????

    Huh? They collect welfare at lower rates than whites?

    Something bigger- the Democratic Party is the one of “social progress”- Republican Party is for “Rich White People”. 

    They can’t “connect” to that.

    • pcmustgo

      Asians out-earn whites too- you’d think they’d resent being taxed more.

    • crystal evans

      Because Asians have pride. Which is something that the blacks and hispanics do not have. When I lived in Hawaii, there were a lot of older people that had saved money for their funeral expenses so that they would not burden their children. They were eligible for food stamps and other benefits but refused to apply because they would have get rid of their savings.

      • bluffcreek1967

        I agree Crystal. I have seen the same thing among Asians. I do admire their care and commitment to their elders. I also like the respect they show to them as well. This is proper and right.

      • Most Asians vote Democrat because they come from racially and culturally homogeneous societies where socialism doesn’t fail like it does here – societies where people are ASHAMED to leech off others. They also settled in coastal areas where liberalism is the dominant way of thinking. 

        Hispanics and blacks vote Democrat because they are promised welfare and they are not ashamed to leech off whites who they feel are the the constituency of the GOP. 

        But Democrats could not win with only Asian, black, and Hispanic votes. The more important question is why are so many whites voting Democrat? Because they’re increasingly out of work and want handouts too. Socialism in America is now starting to run out of other peoples’ money. Look out.

        • bluffcreek1967

          Insightful points! Totally agree!

      • Asians are also highly racially-aware. They don’t fall for all that black and Latino “poor me” crap. They are race-realists in a way that white people must learn to be.

      • Hispanic republican

        BS. Just don’t see it among asians because hispanics out number asians in the country. My father loves this country. Came here for the american dream and has voted republican since he got his citizenship  He lost his business and payed his taxes every year. He did not want a government handout. He’d rather die than take one. So your assertion that hispanics have no pride is off base. It’s no mystery democrats getting all the illegals to vote. Obviously they are going to vote democrat. If they came here illegally then it is almost illogical to expect them to vote republican. One dishonest move does not lead to another one. 

  • Rob

    Latinos, and blacks for that matter, have high incidence of heart,
    kidney disease, diabetes etc. Obamacare will DESTROY, by itself, the

    When those who have ownership of television, movies, etc. have a
    viewpoint that they hold strongly then the rank and file white populace
    is almost helpless. There was no resistance to the change in 1965
    because white people had no idea what was going on. Every value whites
    had was ridiculed in the media, e.g. ALL IN THE FAMILY by Norman Lear.

    The seriousness of the attack on whites by all levels of government,
    education, media, religious organizations, is truly genocidal in nature.

    If you want to know what Mexicans are really like I urge you to read
    Richard Grant’s GOD’S MIDDLE FINGER. He is an Englishman who writes on
    travel and resides in Tucson, Arizona.

    • I tend to think Republicans should give Obama Care tepid resistance.

      Most people favored it because they were led to believe they were going to get free health care. Once OC kicks in and people see how expensive ‘free’ health care is, how less efficient and limited in coverage it is, I believe a greater number of people are going to oppose it.

      There are a lot of people who believe they’re going to get premium and unlimited care. They believe that OC is going cover every cost and every procedure and they’re going to be cured of every disease.

      When the bill comes due, when they aren’t cured of terminal cancer as they thought they would be, the tide will turn. 

  • MerlinV

    So what is Heather suggesting we do, roll over and start speaking Spanish? Start kissing Hispanic butt? Think again Heather! Our resolve is going to strengthen. “California is the future.” Thats after the fight. I’ll fight it til the end.

  • crystal evans

    One thing that this article did not mention is that the only Republican group has been Cuban Americans, who are the wealthiest group of Latinos in this country.

  • Hispanics, like blacks, sell their votes to the high bidder.

    To the principled Conservative Republican, this is and should be seen as extortion and every Conservative Republic should find this abhorrent.

    But we are told by the MSM we MUST ‘appeal’ to Hispanics otherwise Republicans will never again be elected to office again. We are told we MUST comprise our principles and values to attacked Hispanics. 

    Even though Hispanics sell their votes, they’re never going to vote for Republicans in large numbers regardless of what Republicans promise them. Even if Republicans gave them amnesty, the increase in Hispanics voting for Republicans would be short term, two elections at most. Just look at the Cubans in Florida. Reagan stood up to Castro and got their vote but today, they no longer remember or care what an old, dead, white President did for them. The Hispanic Effect is short lived.

    Jesus asked this question 2000 years ago. ‘What profits a man to gain the world but lose his soul?’

    Do we comprise our principle and values for short term gains? Or do we fight to preserve our principles and values? 

    • CAP

      Cuban-Americans were polling 76% for Romney and 19% for Obama, with 5% undecided,
      as of 11/05/2012.    They voted Republican an average of 69% from 1996
      through the 2000 election cycle: 60% for Dole; 74% for Bush; 78% for
      Bush; and 63% for McCain (CTP/University of Miami).   Just thought you’d like to know. 

      • I had read a piece from the early 2000’s that their support for Republicans had fallen to under 50%. It was during the first term of GW Bush. Maybe I remember it wrong or it was on one specific issue.

        I would say that Reagan got their support for his tough rhetoric with Castro. They’re a small community compared to the influx of Mexicans. The issue itself is narrowly focused to one Hispanic sub-group and can’t be applied to an ‘Hispanic strategy’.

  • ImTellinYa

    There is a reason that Democrats had the idea of flooding the country with third-world savages, most of whom are Hispanic. It is because they are natural wards of the state and the leftist pathology prefers that as many people as possible be dependent on government. The Democrats and the GOP joining almost right away, have succeeded in electing a lively, vibrant, diverse new electorate that is composed almost entirely of hostile, third-world savages. The fact that this is self-destructive for White leftists hasn’t made an impression on them yet, because they are still in denial. They will be amazed at the the profound lack of gratitude on the part of nonWhites for destroying the U.S. for the supposed benefit of nonWhites.

    So what do we do?

    Race is the issue I’m afraid. Whites must lose their fear of this fact. The only hope we have is for Whites to stick together. I wish that weren’t true, but it is. The story of the U.S. as a success story is the story of White people. Once we began surrendering to nonWhites and embracing their values, the U.S. has done nothing but decline and become overpopulated by third-world savages. We can’t deny the reality of that any longer. For 50 years we’ve been living like deluded fools.

    We’ve got to fight back as Whites, and we deserve to have our interests as Whites represented. We deserve our own countries. We have no right to use our country as the dumping ground for the scum of the world as our governing elite seems to enjoy doing. We deserve to stand up and be counted at least as much as all the other races do. In any case, we’ll have to help ourselves or we will continue to lose everything. No one else will help us.

    • bluffcreek1967

      I agree completely! Whites need to stop all this wasteful pandering and ‘reaching out’ to non-Whites! We must concentrate our efforts and resources toward what is best for us as Whites. I don’t wish Blacks, Hispanics or Asians any harm. I want them to succeed and prosper – but no longer at the White man’s expense! Let them fend for themselves. As for me, I will do what I can to support White-owned businesses and causes. I will give nothing to support or feed the poor in Black, Hispanic or Asian countries – NEVER! I also won’t knowingly give to any charity associated with any leftist-social cause! Leftists have done the most and even worked overtime to increase our national decline both socially and racially!

    • Thank YOU, This is EXACTLY What I have been saying to family and friends for years.  Now, Where is the group that we can JOIN to SUPPORT our NEW WHITE WAY??

  • .

    I used to scoff at those who said “worse is better”. But after watching Greece I say run this country into the ground as soon as possible. And, yes, my comment has everything to do with MacDonald’s  article.

  • Bobby

    If most people would only focus on how the dynamics of the huge  “hispanic” population in California  operates, they would see the truth. Literally hundreds of thousands of them if not millions, are on some form of state aid. Why do you think California is a basket case!!??

  • Xanthippe2

    Besides Meztizos are just dumber and therefore buy the “Repubicans want old people to die and women to be raped” even more than White people do.  Any emotional propaganda will work with them.

    Dumb people and a hostile media are a lethal combination.

  • Hispanics don’t vote for the GOP, because the GOP has relentlessly pursued an internationalist policy in central and south America, resulting in some 5 million dead in the last thirty years, with the United States arming, funding, and facilitating the creation of private–drug fueled armies and all the assassination and unrest you can foment. These groups now ravage Mexico, leaving a trail of slaughter in their wakes, just as their counterparts in the middle east continue to do. The grim reality is the current middle east mess and the butchery south of the border are intimately connected via American intelligence and interdiction operations going back several decades: Iran-Contra, Air America, and so on. 

    • jack ryan

      Yeah Timonthy – Mexico and Central America would be as safe and peaceful as some all White, Liberal Suburb of Toronto if it wasn’t for American CIA getting the locals to use drugs and guns. 

      Look at the very peaceful, safe Indo-Amer culture that was in place before evil White Europeans came to the area.

      Incas and Aztecks, very quiet, peaceful people – OK they did some things like mass human sacrifice, tearing out the live beating hearts of slave sacrificial victims – but hey, maybe evil White CIA used a time machine to go back in time and make these brown people do violent things them.

  • mobilebay

    Like O’Reilly said, “They vote Democrat because Democrats give them stuff.” Simple as that!

  • Amren shouldn’t be posting articles from National Review, it’s a beast that should no longer be fed.  After their recent dismissals of Derbyshire and Robert Weissberg for the mere sins of making truthful but non-PC statements, it’s proven itself to be a nervous, jittery organization that runs everything by the SPLC for permission to print first.  Conservatism, with its dedication to the truth, is decidedly un-PC and you cannot have both a decent conservative site and one that simultaneously meets with SPLC approval.  Further, National Review’s evident policy of loud and public immediate termination for making an un-PC statement ends up strengthening our totalitarian enemies and further squelching public debate.

    That said, the article is not useful anyway because it’s missing an obvious elephant-in-the-room reason why Hispanics vote Obama (again, as giving the reason would be non-PC and National Review would risk the SPLC’s disapproval if it published the truth), and I’m not talking immigration either.  Namely, affirmative action–scholarships, hiring, college placement–Democrats are the party that takes from non-Hispanic whites and give preferences to minorities, and Hispanics are on the winning end of it with them.  So, they vote Democrat.  Heather Mac Donald cannot write that because she’d probably get terminated from National Review if she did.

  • Ever since 1965 or so, the people who have immigrated to the U.S. were better human beings before they arrived than what they became once “Americanized.”  To become American today means to replace a sensible if unsophisticated folkway for mass popular culture, i.e. to become a derivative Hip-Hoper or Lady Gaga, a Welfare Queen, a high-fructose corn syrup-addled zombie.  Assimilation today means becoming black culturally and politically.  Immigrants today assimilate at the lowest possible levels of society.

    Here in NY, the recent Mexican immigrants are civil and proper human beings you can make eye contact with; the “assimilated” second and third generation Hispanics are unreachable Orcs.  

    I lived in Mexico for six years and got on with the people just fine.  They DID have family values and work hard – in Mexico.  They had a healthy cynicism toward the state, and were generally happy and friendly.  This is why borders and nations exist. Check out Fred Reed’s commentary along these lines…

    • bluffcreek1967

      “Immigrants today assimilate at the lowest possible levels of society” – Geez, isn’t that the truth! Once the newly arrived immigrants get tainted by Black ghetto culture (hip-hop culture and all), they lose all decent manners and common social graces. They become what Blacks are by nature. ‘Acting White’ is not considered ‘cool’ or ‘hip.’ They would prefer to conduct themselves as uncouth Blacks. If immigrants had an ounce of common sense and wisdom, they would do everything in their power to emulate the White man. They would study as to what’s made Whites and White nations the envy of the world. They would treat Whites with respect at every turn. And they would discover that White folks, by and large, are very receptive, generous, kind and peaceful. Immigrants would also discover in their own way that the more they align with the White man’s way of thinking, his culture and values, the more they will prosper. But because so many of them do not consider such ideas – either because of ignorance, lack of intelligence or through liberal deception – they remain in poverty and resentful toward the very Whites whose country they have invaded.

  • jack ryan

    We published and article on OD on this subject – Hispanics we can support.

    Let’s look to support more Hispanics like Chilean patriot Gen. Pinochet.


    Hispanics We Can Support

    If We Have to Go With Hispanics…..

    The cursed MSM (mainstream media) is putting out the spin that Mitt Romney lost the election because he and the GOP alienated Hispanics over the immigration issue (all 4% of Wisconsin voters were Hispanics). RINOS (Mike “the Huckster” Huckabee), lying Neo Cons (Sean Hannity!) various, hideous species of Karl Rove styled “Consultants”, GOP homo prostitute “outreach” types, Conservative are now all joining the spin:

    The GOP supposedly needs to embrace “comprehensive immigration reform” (full amnesty for 11-20 million Hispanic illegals, open borders immigration from the entire 3rd world). And supposedly this (insane, suicidal) immigration cave in will result in millions of new Hispanic GOP voters, who, we are told, are natural GOP voters with their Hispanic “family values”, but they were just turned off by mean, racist GOP immigration restrictionists.

    Well, OD readers know the drill, we’ve seen this spin before, beaten it back many times. I think we can do so again, at least in our areas of the South, Indiana, Missouri, Montana.
    But, to meet the growing chorus to engage in… HISPANDERING, we at Occidental Dissent would like to reach to Hispanics like…

    Chilean General Pinochet!
    (Also to the many very lovely Chilean women who put big city, Northern feminist/YANKEE women to shame)

    Oh, what we wouldn’t do to wake up and learn that a Chilean General like General Pinochet had successfully completed a coup d’ tat and (temporarily) suspended democracy in the United States of America, until the economy was put in order and the various Communists, Marxists were taken down.

    I encourage Occidental Dissent’s race denying Libertarian, Ron Paul cult supporters to read up on General Pinochet. The good Chilean general is the only leader in Post World War II Americas to implement Chicago School of Economics free market reforms. If you are one of these Libertarian, Chicago School of Economics Libertarian true believers, understand that this system can only be implemented by an authoritarian leader/systems, never under mass democracy as poor and working class (even White) voters never go for it.

    Here’s a beautiful music video celebrating….

    Our kind of Hispanic – Chilean patriot, hero General Pinochet.
    Embracing the best Hispanics

    • Indos need a strong man to implement any abstract first world ideology or form of government.  Left to their own devices, they revert to primitive hunter/gatherer tribes.

  • These are people who vote themselves other peoples money and yet it’s the Republicans who are “selfish” and “greedy”.

  • Michael Ryan

    its worse they come in to my union as all unions now  as court ordered affirmative action  they take 100 k a year plus benefits jobs 9 jobs whites don’t want right] they are not qualified for and never manage to qualify for denigrating union quality and driving our wage demands down, they actually pass their union insurance cards around the hood, they all have several baby mommas who they don’t pay child support for that are on welfare and have no clue dads making 100k a year they are avowed Marxist from banana republics where they intend to return with American social security, they don’t pay taxes because  in the hood tax preparers will hook you up with half a dozen social security numbers to claim as dependents if you don’t know enough yourself. and no they are not devout Catholics anymore

  • Wil

    There are too many whites voting
    Democrat. In every Rust Belt battleground Obama performed well above
    average with white voters.

    Ohio, Obama won 41% of the white vote. In Wisconsin 48%. In
    Iowa, he actually captured the white vote with 51% to Romney’s 47%. In
    Michigan, it was 44%, and in Pennsylvania, it was 42%.

  • WeWon

    Whites can’t have one conversation about Hispanics or Asians without talking about Blacks.  It looks like they are on your minds BIG TIME.  That’s why your failing.

  • Cuban-Americans are the exception — that’s why the Democrats love to vilify them at every opportunity.  Here are some down-home Cubanos showing Code Pink the political facts of life in Miami: