Muslims Protest ‘Age of Mockery’ as Thousands Descend on Google HQ

Jennifer O’Mahony, Telegraph (London), October 14, 2012

A protest by 10,000 Muslims outside the offices of Google in London today is just the first in an orchestrated attempt to force the company to remove an anti-Islamic film from website YouTube in Britain.

Thousands had travelled from as far afield as Glasgow to take part in the demonstration, ahead of a planned million-strong march in Hyde Park in coming weeks.

Anger over ‘The Innocence of Muslims’, an American-produced film which insults the Prophet Mohammad and demeans Muslims, according to protesters, remains available to watch on the website YouTube, a subsidiary of Google.

Organiser Masoud Alam said: “Our next protest will be at the offices of Google and YouTube across the world. We are looking to ban this film.

“This is not freedom of expression, there is a limit for that. This insult of the Prophet will not be allowed.

The group’s next action was a march Mr Alam hoped would be “a million strong” would take place in Hyde Park “in the next few weeks”, he said.

“Until it is banned we will keep protesting,” he added.

Today’s demonstration was the third organised in a month, and took place on the central London street where the website search giant has its UK headquarters. A demonstration outside the American Embassy in London last month drew little attention as protests in Libya, Tunisia and Yemen dominated headlines, including the storming of embassy in Benghazi, Libya, that led to the death of the US Ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens.

Barricades were erected in front of Google’s headquarters and a crowd bearing placards with the words “We love our prophet more than our lives” and “Prophet Muhammad is the founder of freedom of speech” had amassed by lunchtime.

Speeches by more than a dozen imams in a mixture of Arabic, Urdu, and English urged Muslims to honour the name of the Prophet and not to back down in the face of Google’s continuing reluctance to act, and were met with passionate cries of “God is Great” and “Mohammad is the Prophet of God” in Arabic.

One of the speakers, Sheikh Faiz Al-Aqtab Siddiqui, told The Daily Telegraph: “Terrorism is not just people who kill human bodies, but who kill human feelings as well. The makers of this film have terrorised 1.6 billion people.

“Organisations like Google are key players and have to take responsibility for civility. You can’t just say it doesn’t matter that it’s freedom of speech. It’s anarchy.”

Sheikh Siddiqui, a barrister from Nuneaton, said he wanted to form a coalition with the Church of England, Catholics, Jewish groups, Trade Unions and even Conservatives to encourage their ranks to join his “campaign for civility”.

“We want everyone in society to recognise these people are wrecking our fragile global society. We want the Church, the Synod, Jewish groups and establishment figures involved,” he said.

As many as 800 imams in mosques across Britain helped to organise today’s protest, which lasted four hours and blocked roads almost up to the Queen’s doorstep on Buckingham Palace Road.

Muslims from Blackburn, Birmingham, Glasgow, Luton, Manchester and Peterborough were in attendance. When asked where where the women attending the protest were, one protester replied: “Right at the back”.

Self-employed businessman Ahmed Nasar said he was worried the video could lead to violence in Britain in the same way as it had abroad. “If you push people too far,” he said, “You will turn the peaceful elements into violence.”

A YouTube spokesperson said: “We work hard to create a community everyone can enjoy and which also enables people to express different opinions.

“This can be a challenge because what’s OK in one country can be offensive elsewhere. This video—which is widely available on the Web—is clearly within our guidelines and so will stay on YouTube.”

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  • Jed Sant Devi

    The future is unfolding before our eyes.  Nobody is coming to our rescue, nobody is kicking them out, nobody is investigating them.   Our elites are just giving what is ours away to them.  

  • JackKrak

    I want to meet the person who looks at this mob and says that the UK is a better country with them there.

    Just one person.

    • Aj

       Besides the 10s of millions of people who support the Labour party?

  • guest

    Anyone in the right mind will never be convinced that these muslims are a peaceful group.  They force their women to completely cover their entire bodies and they kill anyone they see as an “infidel”.

    You can either love and value your freedom, or you can support Islam.  It’s impossible to do both since freedom and Islam will never go together.

    • Tim_in_Indiana

       freedom and Islam will never go together  

      Exactly. Obviously, “freedom” to them is just another word for anarchy.

    • rightrightright

      But the West’s liberal fascism and Islam go very well together.  

  • mobilebay

    Are these groups hired to protest anytime they feel offended? They don’t seem to have jobs. Looks as if they hang around until someone says “Good morning,” then they call for jihad and start jumping up and down in the streets before the killings begin. Does our government really think they’ll ever accept the idea of democracy after thousands of years of being so irrational?

    • How can they be expected to work when they have to pray five times a day?

    • eduard

      That photo is what it looks like in mandelatopia on a daily basis. These muslims are like the third world savage. In mandelatopia strike marches with 10’s of thousands, is a daily occurrence. In the process they burn and wreck everything in their wake. If they spot a white, they will slaughter him just there. We are living in the age of the dark races and it’s spells a bad omen for the white race.

  • Islam – The Religion of pieces.  If they don’t like you they will blow you into pieces and fracture your society into little pieces. This is pretty sickening, a people who have ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS in England or any White country and they are protesting because they are offended? Well excuse me it might be time to return to your third world slums where you can worship Mohammed without even knowing what a TV is!

  • UK, you have a serious problem and nothing short of mass deportation is going to fix it. Muslims are going to destroy your country.

    • blindsticks

      They have already.  Them and all the other racial minorities that make up Diversity and Multiculturalism.I should know  I live there and have seen town after town and borough after borough,  and  city after city  fall because  of the unending  encroachment from the third world. The present political classes and the rich professional/ business types  think they will always be able to just walk away whenever it gets too uncomfortable  , but there is coming a time  when they wont be able to. And our  people – the patriots  –  will be there.

  • Michael C. Scott

    Just more members of the “religion of piece doing their best to fi in”.

    What is it about them that I am supposed to respect again?

    • 5n4k33y35

      If you respect nothing else about Islam, respect the fact that they don’t allow their women to make their society vulnerable. Who was it who brought white men down so far from the peak of our power? It was the treachery of white women, Suffragettes and Feminists.

      While young male Britons were conscripted to die in World War I, suffragettes were agitating for the right to vote. They weren’t agitating for the right to die in the war, mind you. They demanded political agency without any sacrifice.

      And when they were displeased by the reluctance of young Englishmen to sacrifice themselves, these women handed out white feathers, to insinuate these young men were cowards. Men go into the meat grinder, and women get to vote for no apparent reason at all. It was madness to let these Suffragettes dictate.

      And from the Sufragettes, sprang their ideological spawn, Feminists. Feminists are the ones who dragged white men down, all around the world until mandatory multiculturalism was the result. That would never happen to an Islamic society. If for no other reason, Islam is worthy of your respect.

      It’s a bitter pill to swallow. But we need not blame ourselves or our culture. The rise of this poisonous ideology was made possible by the ease of living in the industrialized society. Prior to the modern era, it was never possible for an ideology so stupid as Feminism, and subsequently Multiculturalism to proliferate.

      But the reality of the situation for Muslims, is that they too are suffering incremental encroachment by Feminism. As their society becomes less Islamic and more secular, they become more amenable to Feminism. This is bad news. When Christianity lost its power in the Western society, Feminism brought ruin.

      Ultimately, Christians and Muslims ought to resist Feminism as a united front. Otherwise, things will only get worse. Feminism is the new Communism.

      • ViktorNN

        Islam’s treatment of women is not worthy of an ounce of my respect or any other white man’s respect.

        The notion that I, a white man, would ever team up with the alien Muslim culture in some sort of political struggle against white women – my mother, sisters, and daughters – is absurd. 

        We don’t need this barbaric religion’s help in righting the balance of the traditional white family. We need this barbaric religion OUT of white living spaces. Period.

        • FourFooted_Messiah

           5n sounds more like a stealth Muslim to me.  His blanket hatred of women is most telling.

          Sigh, it`s not that we women `got the vote`, and frankly, if a female citizen can`t have it, neither should any immigrant, citizenship card or not.

          The problem is that the women`s movement basically ran out of things to do by the 1980s, and got hijacked by the general forces of the Left that seek to destroy the West – same thing happened with the environmental movement (none of these organizations will even touch on the issue of mass immigration from third world countries to Canada, though early on in the environmental movement, global overpopulation was a VERY big issue – now they won`t say word one about that.)

          The `gay rights`movement is also in the process of being hijacked by the bully Left that probably doesn`t give a damn about such things in the first place, it just sees a new weapon to use to beat the rest of us over the head with.

          Going back to the women`s movement, it was really just about equal _opportunity_ – which means if you can hack it, you should be allowed to do it, sex regardless.  It was never supposed to be about lowering standards, say (ie, physical requirements for firefighters.  Yes, there ARE some Big Berthas who can haul a 300-lb man to safety.  There are also small, lightly-built men who cannot.) 

          Take a look at most of the socially-progressive movements, particarly the long-standing ones.  While their initial goals may have been noble and limited, they have all, to one extent or another, been corrupted.

          That`s the thing that disturbs and shocks me most of all, really.  While I may, at the core, still be an `old-fashioned`kind of liberal – the one who believes in free speech, and giving anyone williing to try the CHANCE to do something (and there is nothing wrong in failure; at least you had the guts to try!) etc, NeoLiberalism is, well, nothing short of fascism clothed in a velvet glove.

          • 5n4k33y35

            FourFooted_Messiah wrote: “Sigh, it’s not that we women ‘got the vote’, and frankly, if a female citizen can’t have it, neither should any immigrant, citizenship card or not.”

            While Sufragettes agitated for the vote, men were conscripted to war. Men earned their right to vote with their own blood. Women didn’t earn it and they weren’t entitled to vote.

            If the Sufragettes were fair-minded, they would have opposed conscription of men to war, instead of handing out white feathers to taunt young men for cowardice.

            FourFooted_Messiah wrote: “5n sounds more like a stealth Muslim to me.”

            If I were committed to one religion to the exclusion of others, I would proclaim this. I’ve never seen anyone, Christian, Muslim, observant Jewish, Buddhist, or Hindu who does not openly declare their faith with pride. 

            The idea that people are running around pretending they are one religion or another is kind of silly. Only members of small cults do this, as far as I know.

            FourFooted_Messiah wrote: “His blanket hatred of women is most telling.”

            A Feminists will always say that rejecting Feminism is tantamount to hating women. Feminism is an ideology. Feminist ideologues are a small minority of women. The masses of women in the Western society may well be deceived by Feminism, but they are not ideologues.

            A man who despises Feminist ideologues only despises a small minority of women who already despise him because he is a man.

            Get it right. Feminists really do hate men, not just chauvinists. But men who hate Feminists don’t necessarily hate women in general. In fact, Feminist men are the ones with the barely concealed rage towards women in general.

            I agree with you, that voting rights shouldn’t automatically be given to immigrants. Better that native British women should vote than immigrants from elsewhere.

            Regardless of this, when the UK was still 99% white, they ought not to have allowed women to vote before men were free of the obligation to serve in the military. The Suffragettes were hypocrites and ingrates.

        • 5n4k33y35

          You’re falling for the biggest lie of Feminism, that men who reject Feminism must hate women. It’s not white women you’re pitted against. It’s the Feminist ideologues in particular, and the ideology of Feminism in general.

          Being free of Feminism allows a white to be more possessive of his wife and more protective of his daughters, and white females in general.

          The idea is not that men share their women. The idea is that we do not. The requirement is that NATO stops trying to rescue the girls of the Islamic society from their own fathers, brothers and husbands.

          This article is about Muslims. If you want to hear the same message in defense of The Patriarchy, from a Christian perspective, try these websites:

          Christian Men’s Defense Network
          http://cmd-n.org/

          Dalrock:
          http://dalrock.wordpress.com/

          • saxonsun

            If it is a religious perspective it is bad for women, no matter what religion it is. Strong women decide on their own–that is  wehat you fear. And we will never go back. And there’s nothing you can do about it.

          • 5n4k33y35

            I can make the arguments from a strictly scientific perspective, in terms of racial self interest. I don’t fear anything about Feminists.

          • ViktorNN

            The only thing I’ve fallen for is your obvious trolling for your anti-feminist hobby horse. My mistake.

            The article posted here on Amren that you’re commenting on is about Middle-Eastern Muslims protesting in England about the recent controversy over an anti-Muslim film made in the US and posted on Google-owned YouTube. Your anti- feminist hobby horse has next to nothing to do with this.

            Whatever you’re going on about sounds suspiciously like the same apologetics we get from whites who want to mix with Asians or from whites who admire the work ethic of Mexican peons.

            I continue to have the same reaction to your apologetics – again, white people don’t need to look to Islam to solve our problems.

            Nor do we need fundamentalist Muslims as allies. We don’t need fundamentalist Islam’s hysterical reaction to white Europe’s long tradition of liberty and freedom of speech. We don’t need the Mid-East’s predilection for authoritarian theocracy. White Europe left all that behind long ago.

            What we DO need is Middle Easterners and especially fundamentalist Muslims OUT of white lands.

            Let us know when you’re ready to agree with that, and I’m sure you’ll find a receptive audience here on Amren.

          • 5n4k33y35

            If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. I’m striking at the root of the problem.

            You don’t need Islamic society as your ally within the context of a national struggle.

            But Christians and Muslims do need to stop tearing each other down in the geopolitical context.

            You can come to the same conclusions about Feminism whether you’re a Christian, Muslim, Jew or Atheist.

            ViktorNN wrote: “Islam’s treatment of women is not worthy of an ounce of my respect or any other white man’s respect.”

            Yes their treatment of women is worthy of respect. Respect means “look again”. Look again, how Muslims marry women younger, and their birth rate is higher.

            ViktorNN wrote: “The notion that I, a white man, would ever team up with the alien Muslim culture in some sort of political struggle against white women – my mother, sisters, and daughters – is absurd.”

            Are the women of your family Feminists? If so, they’ve already learned from Feminist ideologues to team up against the men in their own family.

            Not only that, but this is also the origin of the “white guilt mentality” which afflicts women first, via Feminist doctrine.

            White and Muslim are not mutually exclusive sets. There are white Muslims in the Caucuses region. UK Muslims mostly aren’t white.

            But go ahead and be the champion of Feminism, if you wish. But be warned – Feminism stridently anti-white.

            The point is not that you need Islam to learn that Feminism is bad. But those who condemn Islamic culture with an attitude of moral superiority which is based on their Feminist indoctrination are only making the problem of immigration worse.

            The problem in the UK and Europe is mostly due to Feminism, leading to socialism, welfare single motherhood, legions of bastards, and lax immigration policy.

            Anyway, you must learn that Feminism is reprehensible. This lesson will make you a better white man. I don’t care how you learn it, as a Christian, Muslim, or Atheist. Just learn it.

          • ViktorNN

            5n4k33y35:

            I’m glad to see you concede that whites don’t need Muslims as allies.

            But you still don’t get it.

            We whites don’t need Middle Eastern Muslims to tell us ANYTHING about how we handle our own affairs.

            You don’t like it when we mock your thin skinned tantrums over cartoons, or when we’re disgusted when you shoot a teenage girl in the head, or when we laugh at you for not allowing women to drive cars, or when you dress your women in goofy linen sleeping bags…

            so guess what? We don’t care a whit what you have to say about white women. Your opinion really doesn’t matter to us.

            As a matter of fact, we’d like you to take your opinion of white women and take it back home with you when you GET OUT of our white countries.

          • 5n4k33y35

            My ancestry is predominantly Scottish and Welsh, and fully European. I am American.

            If I were not a white man, I probably wouldn’t give a damn if Feminism afflicts your society, so long as mine were strictly Patriarchal.

            I might even wish for Feminism to afflict your society so mine could gain at your expense.

            But the reality is, all men have something to gain, and something not to lose by resisting Feminism.

            Once order is restored, and Feminism is not such a global threat to freedom, I might wish Feminism to afflict a rival civilization.

            But in the present circumstances, I wouldn’t wish Feminism on any society. But if an individual is indoctrinated to believe in Feminism and I don’t like them personally, I may take satisfaction from their plight.

          • ViktorNN

            I doubt you are white. No right thinking racially conscious white male posting on a site like this would seriously advocate taking Islam seriously when it comes to gender relations between white women and men.

            Islam has absolutely nothing to say to help us. It’s the cultural expression of an alien race whose society is almost entirely incommensurate with ours. I don’t want to live in anything remotely resembling an Islamic authoritarian theocracy. I don’t know any right-minded whites that do.

          • 5n4k33y35

            ViktorNN wrote: “I doubt you are white. No right thinking racially conscious white male posting on a site like this would advocate taking Islam seriously…”

            Ahh, the old “No true Scotsman” fallacy:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

            If you are capable of thinking objectively, consider what I wrote apart from what you think about me.

            I am positively crackling with racial awareness. That is why I look beyond ideology and religion and get right to where the rubber meets the road. Feminism is killing white society. 

            The failure to keep women from betraying men, en masse, has undermined every other aspect of white society.

            ViktorNN wrote: “Islam has absolutely nothing to say to help us. It’s the cultural expression of an alien race whose societies are almost entirely incommensurate with ours.”

            I don’t know what incommensurate means in this context. Forget about religion. Don’t even worry about ideological terms like Feminism. Just focus on race.

            If the wife can defy her husband, kick him out of his home, take his children away, cuckold him with impunity, this society is doomed. 

            The topic of men’s rights is not limited to any culture. It is relevant to Atheists, Confucians, Shinto, Hindus, Christians, Muslims, and Pagans.

            I don’t care to be distracted by religious debate on matters between men and women.

            BTW, I suspect you are not a white man. I suspect you are black and Jewish, lesbian, Feminist, Marxist, Anarchist, “affirmative action” professor. One can never be too sure on the Internet.

            Either renounce Feminism, or we have nothing more to discuss.

          • ViktorNN

            Your comments continue to be strange and off-topic in a thread for an article that has nothing to do with what you’re talking about. This is why I don’t think you’re actually white – you’re derailing the article and trying to distract white people from what this article is about – foreign invaders in our midst in a white country attempting to tell whites what to do.

            The fact that you haven’t even addressed the main point of the article or even once admitted that whites should resist Muslim immigration and Muslim influence in the affairs of white countries again just confirms my point.

            Renounce Muslim and Middle Eastern immigration into white countries, or we have nothing more to discuss.

          • 5n4k33y35

            ViktorNN wrote: “Your
            comments continue to be strange and off-topic in a thread for an
            article that has nothing to do with what you’re talking about.”

            You are obstinate and apparently incompetent. Here’s a clue: You can click the username for a profile and read comments in chronological order for each registered commenter. The first sentence of my first comment stated my opposition to immigration.

            ViktorNN wrote: “This is
            why I don’t think you’re actually white – you’re derailing the article
            and trying to distract white people from what this article is about –
            foreign invaders in our midst in a white country attempting to tell
            whites what to do.”

            I don’t give a damn what you think. I only answer for the benefit of other readers.

            ViktorNN wrote: “The fact that you haven’t even addressed the main point of the
            article or even once admitted that whites should resist Muslim
            immigration and Muslim influence in the affairs of white countries again
            just confirms my point.”

            That is because I do not agree with you, Feminist. I oppose immigration of non-whites into Europe. There are too many non-whites in Europe already. I do not oppose immigration of white Muslims.

            ViktorNN wrote: “Renounce Muslim and Middle Eastern immigration into white countries, or we have nothing more to discuss.”

            I will not renounce Islam or any other religion.
            I will not renounce immigration by white Muslims into Europe.
            I want a moratorium on immigration by non-whites into Europe.

            The first sentence of my first comment:  “I am not pleased that the UK has welcomed so many immigrants…”And my closing statement of my first comment: “The UK needs to end immigration, deport anyone who is not entitled to
            remain…”Read it and weep, Feminist:http://www.amren.com/news/2012/10/muslims-protest-age-of-mockery-as-thousands-descend-on-google-hq/#comment-683669078More evidence ViktorNN is a Feminist:ViktorNN wrote: “Islam’s treatment of women is not worthy of an ounce of my respect or any other white man’s respect.”(1) ViktorNN to the rescue of the women!ViktorNN wrote: “I wouldn’t pursue the line that women are more prone to care for
            those who are existential threats if I were you.”(2) ViktorNN to the rescue of the women again.ViktorNN wrote: “When it comes to our own white history, the plight we currently face
            is the direct result of white men importing alien races that have become
            existential threats in our own white homelands.”(3) ViktorNN blames white men. White men conquered the world and invented almost every modern technology. What have white women achieved that women of no other race have achieved? ViktorNN wrote: “White women had no hand
            in it, and nothing white women have done collectively to put the race
            at risk remotely compares to what white men have done by importing
            blacks and hispanics for cheap labor.”(4 & 5) ViktorNN deflects blame from white women and blames white men again. Most white women had no hand in anything beyond their domestic duties. Slavery was a mistake made by men. But if you want to blame white men for each mistake, you must also praise white men for every achievement. Praise white men and renounce Feminism, you disgusting Feminist.

            ViktorNN wrote: “So by your own logic and proven by historical evidence then, white
            men should be stripped of the right to vote for having some sort of
            biological tendency towards making bad decisions which puts the race at
            risk.”(6) ViktorNN defends women again. What did Ken P. write again? Here it is: “It would be ridiculous at
            this point to ask women to give up the right to vote.” ViktorNN ignored that, or else she lacks reading comprehension. ViktorNN wrote: “I say this not because I actually believe white men should have their
            right to vote revoked, but to show the weakness of your argument for
            why white women should.”

            Men collectively earned the right to vote by compulsory military service and by dying in multitudes throughout the course of history. ViktorNN wrote: “As far as the claim that men just want to be left alone by
            government, I’ve yet to see a man turn down his social security or
            medicare, or to refuse the help of police or firemen, or turn down perks
            “earned” via generous campaign contributions.”

            ViktorNN praises big government. ViktorNN is obviously a woman and a Feminist and perhaps a lesbian. I was joking at first, but now I’m fairly certain she is a woman. Probably one of the Feminist women who is pissed off that I made a monkey out of her before..

          • ViktorNN

            A moratorium on non-white immigration into Europe?

            How weak you are. You are not white, obviously.

            Yes, for the record, I absolutely oppose and abhor Islam’s treatment of women.

            Your praise of Islam’s treatment of women only confirms my suspicion that you are not white.

            It’s good to see you come out and admit your admiration of Islam. Let’s explore that, shall we?

            Let’s hear you come out and say:

            Are you a sympathizer of the Islamic extremists who killed thousands of white people on 9-11?

            Would you like to see white women wearing burqas?

            Would you like to see white women forbidden from being able to drive cars?

            Do you agree white teenage girls should be shot in the head if they happen to take an interest in politics and speak out?

            Do you think white women should be denied the right to vote?

            Do you think white women should have the right to free speech?

            Do you think white women should have the right to use contraception of their choice?

            How old should a girl be before a man can legally marry her and have sex with her?

            I would respond to your comments about my comments but you show no attempt to read my arguments in good faith. Anyone can read my arguments in the comments you cited and see for themselves that you are deliberately misreading them.

            You derail threads, you don’t argue in good faith and you use this forum as a place to ride your strange, obsessive anti-feminist hobby horse.

            I’m not sure why I’m arguing with someone who has stated their admiration for Mohammed’s pedophilia because now you are beginning to tread into trollish territory. Is this just a big put on? If so, then well played 🙂

          • 5n4k33y35

            ViktorNN wrote: “A “moratorium” on non-white immigration into Europe? That’s it? How weak. Pathetic. You can’t be white”

            Just so happens I’ve outlined a plan to repatriate quite a lot of the diversity out of the British Isles. And it’s even plausible, unlike your infantile thinking, which could never gain any popular consent in the modern era.

            Again, read it and weep, Feminist:
            http://www.amren.com/news/2012/10/sickening-moment-a-vulnerable-pensioner-was-karate-kicked-in-the-back-by-a-young-thug-wearing-a-smurfs-t-shirt/#comment-685796785

          • ViktorNN

            You really overestimate yourself if you think I care a whit what you think of me.

            As far as what I think of you goes, I don’t have to speculate or name call. You say what you are quite clearly.

            In one comment, you say you want a weak “moratorium” on immigration into white lands. Then in another you say you want to repatriate non-whites in the UK. At best, you’re offering an incomplete, seemingly contradictory view – at worst, you’re argument is muddled and confused.

            Look, if you want to get on board with where most of the rest of us pro-whites are, then you will agree in principle and for all time, that whites have a right to their own living spaces. No “moratoriums.” Forever. The fact that you can’t seem to come out and say that suggests to me that you have some non-white skin in the game that you aren’t being honest about. Perhaps some non-white relatives somewhere in your family tree?

            Next, you favor marriage between adult men and girls as young as 13.

            This strongly suggests you are a pedophile.

            I’m curious:

            How young is too young for an adult male (18 or older) to have sex with an underage girl. 13 isn’t too young, obviously. What’s the limit? 12? 8? 6?

            While we’re at it, have you ever had sex with an underage girl? How old was she?

            Were you imprisoned for it? Where do you live?

            I’m also waiting for answers to my other questions about the kinds of laws regarding women you’d like to see in your medieval anti-feminist authoritarian state.

            I’d also like to point out to any Amren moderator who might be reading these comments that someone who seems to be espousing a pro-pedophile arguments is “loose” on these threads.

          • So far, I’m not interpreting advocacy of pedophilia.

          • ViktorNN

            With respect, did you catch this line?

            “I have the passion for marriage to child brides of David Koresh.”

          • I should have. Sorry about that. Deleted.

          • 5n4k33y35

             What a disgusting Feminist.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    Pertinent quotes:

    “Muslims are nature’s way of telling us that multiculturalism is a really bad idea.”  Parapundit (Randall Parker)

    * * *

    “When a country admits millions of immigrants who despise its core beliefs, bad things happen.” Brenda Walker, VDARE.com

  • Purestocles

    The Prophet Mohammed forbade graven images which is why Islamic Art is based on geometric design. The higher purpose of this taboo was to prevent his followers from falling into the error of worshipping the symbol rather than the substance–which is the sin of idolatry.

    And what do Muslims do?

    They ignore his injunction and persecute anyone who, in their estimation, disrespects any symbol even remotely referring to the prophet–completely missing his point. Any religion that condones this type of faith in counterfeits exploits its dimwitted literal-minded followers and is not interested in bringing them closer to Enlightenment. 

  • Howard W. Campbell

    Enoch Powell was right, but he just didn’t go far enough.  However, in 1968, the number of Muslims in England were probably enough to be counted in both hands and fingers. I guess seeing Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs going after each other while he was stationed in India made quite an impression. I’m sure that when he was writing his “Rivers of Blood” speech, the scenes of Watts, Detroit, et al were fresh in his mind.

    • 5n4k33y35

      He was absolutely white. And he was right too. And so was Charles De Gaulle when he warned that diversity shouldn’t be more than a very small fraction, or else the French would no longer be French. 

  • IstvanIN

    When does the Queen get helicoptered out of there?

  • Athling

    “It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.” — Edmund Burke

  • SarahConnor

    If GOOGLE caves we are doomed! England looks like they are doomed already. Always amazes me how this many people have the time to protest. Maybe England could say if you have time to protest and you are on any welfare then you have time to look for a job and stop their welfare.

  • Ron

     Its funny how this stirs them up to march, but the brutal and cowardly act of shooting a 14 year old Pakistani girl by the Taliban doesnt seem to elicit the same outrage. I wonder why? 🙂

    • Beth

      Their mullahs work them up into a frenzy in the mosques then give the mobs their marching orders.  It is the same in every Moslem country.

    • Beth

      Why of course, the fourteen year old girl offended the Taliban, so they have to defend their precious beliefs.

    • 5n4k33y35

       The most conservative (educated) cleric in Pakistan condemned the shooting. Why did the “progressives” and foreign occupiers insist that this little girl should be their representative?

      Neither Prime Minister Gilani, nor President Zardari would go and criticize the Taliban in Swat Valley without any protection. The Dutch Feminists who presented the girl an award would not have done it. Neither would Hillary Clinton or Gordon Brown.

      This girl was 11 when she began to challenge the local Taliban. The point is, the people I’ve mentioned, especially PM Gilani, that Dutch Feminist organization, and some Pakistani media put her up to it. They praised her bravery and gave her awards. Even Benazir Bhutto would not have done this without any protection.

      The Swat Valley is very dangerous. They encouraged a little girl to effectively become the voice of the NATO presence, with their drone strikes, civilian casualties, assassinations, and propaganda. Now they act shocked that she was shot.

      Whoever shot her deserves to die. But all the morons who encouraged a little girl to do what they themselves would never do, were extremely irresponsible.

  • “If you push people too far,” he said, “You will turn the peaceful elements into violence.”

    That’s not an opinion. That’s a threat. Muslims will fight to have their way.

    The line has been drawn. Either the West will fight for their rights and traditions or the West will cave in leading to endless concessions and appeasements until the West is no longer the West. 

    This is a turning point. How the West proceeds from here will set the course of human events. Unfortunately, western leaders lack the convictions of their forefathers and I predict the First Amendment will end up with an asterisk by its’ side.

    We already have precedent. Remember, ‘the truth is no defense’.

  • Triarius

    First of all, there are no limits to free speech. Even one word banned is limited speech.

    Second, I didn’t know the prophet was the founder of freedom of speech. Good to know.

    Third, even though I live in the US I know when I think of England, speeches in Urdu is the first thing to come to mind.

    Lastly, get out of the US and Europe you parasitic Muslims. Your day is coming soon. To say you have outstayed your welcome is to imply you were wanted in the first place.

  • 5n4k33y35

    I am not pleased that the UK has welcomed so many immigrants, but I am pleased that Muslims across the world are rejecting the insults to Islamic faith.

    It is more important that Muslims keep their faith in Islam, than that they should convince anyone else to change their minds about Islam. The UK should get out of Afghanistan. The USA and NATO should get out of Afghanistan.

    The video is insignificant by its self, but it does give the Muslims in the UK a rallying cry to flex their muscles. If the UK weren’t under the thrall of Feminism and multiculturalism, they wouldn’t have troops in Afghanistan, nor would they have so many immigrants.

    Liberals are dumb. Liberalism does not work in the multicultural context. Something akin to Paleoconservatism is appropriate for the UK and Europe in general. The UK needs less immigrants, more respect for Islam, and most crucially, more self respect as men, so as not to worsen their predicament.

    Put the Feminists in their place, finally, and all of the consequences of their devilry will be mitigated.

    • saxonsun

      Poor little man. I can feel you shivering in fear. I’m one of those feminists. The only place I have is the place I define and carve out for  myself. You have no power over us. Your time has come.

      • 5n4k33y35

        You would call yourself a Feminist? Don’t you realize, all your favorite ideologues are sworn enemies of The White Patriarchy, and so-called “white male privilege”?

        So you proudly wear the label of Feminist, even though Feminism is explicitly, stridently, vocally anti-white?

  • It’s horrendous that the U.K. has let so many of them in. If it were up to me, I’d cordon off the area and deport the lot. On the bright side, at least they’re not molesting British girls while they’re protesting.

    http://www.jewamongyou.wordpress.com

    • MerlinV

      Good point Reuben.

      Ever notice that in nearly all Islamic nations a dictator serves as the head of government? Is it not obvious why? Its because a dictator is required to govern these unruly masses.

  • dhs

    Bear one fact in mind: The UK does not have freedom of communication, to the extent it exists in the US. For complex historical reasons,  in America any non-criminal statement is  not illegal.  In the UK communications are regulated just as speed can be regulated on US roads. The googler alluded to this with the statement, “This can be a challenge because what’s OK in one country can be offensive elsewhere.”  Her Majesty’s government could make ridicule of Islam illegal. The problem is the internet.  As long as Islamic ridicule is legal in the US, it is accessible in the UK and throughout the world.

  • rightrightright

    Muslim hypocrisy is gob smacking.  Hurt bodies and hurt feelings, they moan, while their islamic brothers kill, abduct, rape, torture Christians and Hindus in their tens of thousands.  

    54% of muslim males in England live on benefits.  75% of muslim females in England live on benefits.  20% of convicted prisoners are muslims.  

    NHS maternity wards are packed wall to wall with muslim women.  If you are a White mother, don’t have a dodgy pregnancy as your child could well die in the stable.

    Instead of their howls of rage, a danke schoen from the proponents of the eternally offended and aggressive would be unkoranic, but appropriate.  

    • Bantu Education

      “54% of muslim males in England live on benefits. 75% of muslim females in England live on benefits. 20% of convicted prisoners are muslims.” 

      Can you verify your figures with a source?   

      • Whirlwinder

        Bantu, I would wager that the numbers are low estimates. Muslims do nothing. How else do you think they get money for their rent and food?

  • blindsticks

    That figure of  ‘ten thousand’  is rather interesting.

    Cranmer:
    Lord Ahmed threatens Parliament into
    submission
    … has lost its testicles to
    the point where a mere ten thousand muslim … in the
    parliment and rely to the right detestable Lord Ahmed, that we
    will mobilise …archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2009/01/lord-ahmed…
    – Cached 

  • They should be deported, we all know that.

  • The UK is suicidal and nothing can stop it.  Just why did they go to war with Germany?  They would have been better off.   Political correctness is leading them down to a path that they won’t be able to escape from.

  • Whirlwinder

    Islam represents the antithesis of freedom of speech, freedom of religion and assembly. When Islam becomes dominant in England,  just see how far your protest against their government will go. If most of the protesters are allowed to live, that would be a plus. Slaughter of the protesters will send a good message to the other dhimmis who dare to protest in the land of Islam.

  •  Of course it would be just as hard to deport the Muslims to Inglistan as to Pakistan. There would still be riots, mass looting and carnage either way.

  • 5n4k33y35

    Traditional marriage is when a man vows to protect and provide for a woman, who vows to give him exclusive access to her reproductive capacity. This is a sensible exchange.

    Your labor and perhaps your life will be hers. You’re expected to work if you must, and even to risk your own life for your kids or your wife.

    Your wife is your “property” inasmuch as you’re entitled to exclusive rights to her intimacy. She is also your responsibility to protect and provide for.

    She must be obedient. Her value is inherent mostly in who and what she is. Your value is mostly inherent in what you can do for her and your children.

    A proper Muslim men does not treat any woman as his own who does not belong to him. A Muslim in a foreign land does not possess the women of the society in which he is a guest.

    A Muslim may take women from a conquered society as slaves. This is another matter, unrelated to the UK. Those men who defiled the girls were criminals, not acting in accordance with Islamic faith. This is why they were captured, as disgraced scoundrels, to be put on trial and go to prison.

    I don’t care how you go about it, but you need to deprogram yourself to be free of Feminist indoctrination. The objection you raise against excessive immigration, (especially of non-whites) into Europe ought to be justified by racial self interest alone. Don’t be queasy about racism. It’s a serious matter.

    But if you condemn Islamic society as a Feminist, you’re only making the problem worse, and all your efforts will yield no results, and earn you no respect.

  • ViktorNN

    I wouldn’t pursue the line that women are more prone to care for those who are existential threats if I were you. You’re opening a can of worms I doubt you intend to open.

    When it comes to our own white history, the plight we currently face is the direct result of white men importing alien races that have become existential threats in our own white homelands. White women had no hand in it, and nothing white women have done collectively to put the race at risk remotely compares to what white men have done by importing blacks and hispanics for cheap labor.

    So by your own logic and proven by historical evidence then, white men should be stripped of the right to vote for having some sort of biological tendency towards making bad decisions which puts the race at risk.

    I say this not because I actually believe white men should have their right to vote revoked, but to show the weakness of your argument for why white women should.

    As far as the claim that men just want to be left alone by government, I’ve yet to see a man turn down his social security or medicare, or to refuse the help of police or firemen, or turn down perks “earned” via generous campaign contributions.

    I suppose it’s possible there’s a good argument for why women should be denied the right to vote, but one thing for sure is that yours certainly isn’t it.

  • ViktorNN

    You seem to have a problem with “large governments.” The most advanced white countries in the world with the highest standards of living, with the most educated white populations, and the best quality of life all have government sizes that are comparatively large – or to be more precise, tend to have comparatively large public sectors.

    Again, following your logic and using history as evidence, giving white women the right to vote has resulted in the creation of (big) governments which have created societies with better quality of life for white people than ever before in Western history.

  • ViktorNN

    Muslims are “united” because most Muslims living in authoritarian Islamic theocracies aren’t willing to pay the price of not saying what they’re told to say. You can keep that kind of “unity,” thanks anyway.

    In that sense, the average Muslim woman in an authoritarian Islamic theocracy isn’t “honest” about a damn thing.

    • 5n4k33y35

      There will have to be an increase in autocratic leadership and organized religion so that we can clean up after the mess you Feminists, socialists and radical egalitarians have made. 

      • ViktorNN

        Another place we disagree.

        Tell us about the autocracy you would like to see:

        Do you want limits on who can vote? Who should be allowed to vote?

        Do you want limits on free speech? What are those limits?

        Who should be the autocrats in charge? Religious theocrats? Some Central Committee of some sort? Plutocrats? Hereditary aristocrats and noblility?

        For those who oppose the authoritarian state you desire, what should become of them? Are they entitled to due process? Or can they be merely rounded up at the whim of those in power? What should happen to them? Summary execution? Put into concentration camps? Extermination camps?

        I think we’d all love to hear the details of the nightmarish dystopia that 5n4k33y35 fantasizes about.

    • 5n4k33y35

      ViktoriaNN asked: “Do you want limits on who can vote? Who should be allowed to vote?”

      If you’re a government dependent, you cannot vote. In any country where men are required to register for military draft, women cannot vote.

      ViktoriaNN asked: “Do you want limits on free speech? What are those limits?”

      None.

      ViktoriaNN asked: “Who should be the autocrats in charge? Religious theocrats? Some Central Committee of some sort? Plutocrats? Hereditary aristocrats and noblility?

      Hereditary aristocrats and nobility where their lineage can be confirmed. They should act as cultural stewards. Religious leaders should be held in higher esteem. FYI, there is an emerging aristocracy of intellect online. Otherwise, it’s all about democracy.

      ViktoriaNN asked: “For those who oppose the authoritarian state you desire, what should become of them?”

      I don’t desire the authoritarian state. The people themselves desire it. But not too authoritarian. Only just enough to appease their demand for someone to rebel against. They are like children. They will not be harmed.

      ViktoriaNN asked: “About the police forces you imagine that will be doing all the dirty work – Will they be revolutionary guards?”

      I’m not deputizing anyone for a fixed role. No one can presume to represent my authority beyond the scope of a particular statement.

      ViktoriaNN asked: “Will these security forces get special perks for their labors? Special perks like say, access to underage girls?”

      All access is denied to preserve their innocence and marriagebility. The Patriarchy is based on strong families.

      Every man is on his own for courtship and marriage. There is no compulsion in marriage. Parental consent is required for female minors to marry.

      ViktoriaNN asked: “It should be mildly entertaining to hear the details of the nightmarish dystopia that brown-skinned 5n4k33y35 fantasizes about.”

      It’s really just a tyranny of the intellect. One man, of such intellect, foresight, integrity and charisma that the people follow on their own, like freshly hatched ducklings.

      Those who will see it as tyranny are the ones who have defiant oppositional disorder.

      • ViktorNN

        Okay, so just to be clear:

        Women shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

        You want the return of a monarchy.

        You want an authoritarian state, but not too authoritarian. LOL.

        You’re fine with adult males marrying girls as young as 13.

        You also explicitly state that you admire the adult male Mohammed having sex with an underage girl. My understanding is that he had sex with her when she was 9.

        So I take it you are fine with adult males having sex with girls at least as young as 9.

        What age is too young for an adult male to have sex with an underage girl?

        You say you see people clamoring for your authoritarian state now. Actually, most non-democratic countries in the world are moving towards instituting more democratic practices, the rule of law and due process, not less. So any such clamoring is likely only going on in your head.

        At any rate, I have to say – the internet really does vomit up all kinds.

        I guess in your case it has vomited up a “monarchist pedophile who wants to disenfranchise women.”

        And by the way, calling me a feminist woman who is a homosexual because I mock your worldview is fine with me. It’s an honor to be name called by someone who is pro-pedophilia.

        But your names are weak and clichéd. For all your fevered medieval visions, I’d like to think you can come up with better names than that. Dig deep, pedo, you can do it 🙂 Amuse me.

    • 5n4k33y35

      White Feminists have thrown their lot in with “progressive” blacks and non-observant Jews.

      I am throwing my lot in with the White Patriarchy, and also The Patriarchy in general, including but not limited to the Islamic Patriarchy.

      You’re fine being described as a lesbian, and that is probably because you are a lesbian.

      But I’m not fine with being labelled as a sexual deviant by a dyke such as yourself. Sexual deviation of the heterosexual variant is generally less deviant than sexual deviation of the homosexual variant.

      Considering that the LGBT ideologues want to create a sexual “utopia”, unfettered by morality or even biology for everyone except for heterosexuals, I thank God that the Islamic Prophet Mohammed set an example so contrary to the contemporary, Feminized, homosexualized society which you embrace as being normal.

      I will never agree with those who denigrate the Islamic Prophet Mohammed for his marriage to his child bride Aisha.

      You are a slave to the Feminist ideology established by the non-observant Jewish elite. You despise men more than you love the white race.

      • ViktorNN

        I have no need to answer any of your name calling. If these are the worst names you can come up with to call a white male, then you’re not nearly as imaginative as you are sociopathic.

        By your own words, you’re either a pedophilia apologist, or you are a pedophile yourself.

        What more is there to say?

        I predict you will be banned from Amren in short order.

      • ViktorNN

        I have to add, more for the benefit of Amren moderators than for you, that as a father of white children, who constantly has the welfare of my children in the back of my mind as I learn about and discuss politics, it makes me sick to my stomach to be conversing with someone who condones sex with underage children.

        Your coded endorsement of pedophilia via this repeatedly stated admiration for and fixation on Muhammed’s sex with a nine year old girl is just repulsive. If this is the sort of space that Amren wants to create, one where pedophilia apologists are proudly and openly proclaiming their views, then this will not be a site I visit much longer. it’s truly sad to see Jared Taylor’s fine work so sullied and tarnished by such a foul presence.

    • 5n4k33y35

      You don’t get it, you pansy. He married her with her consent and the consent of her father and mother. There was no fornication involved. You’re the one who is fixated on sex.

      You’re so keen on the values of the society degraded by homosexuals, you don’t have any respect for the religion of more than a billion people.

      You are a vile, disgusting, man-hating Feminist. You’re either a jealous hag or you’re man who is not straight. The more extreme Feminists like you become, the more admiration I have for the Prophet Mohammed.

      The ideology you embrace is trying to destroy the gender roles, destroy organized religion, make a “brave new world” of reproductive technology, enshrine homosexual marriage, and blasting people to smithereens with drones because they don’t share your values. You are a pig! And your ideology is not just condoning the murder of Muslim civilians. Your ideology is killing off the white race.

      • ViktorNN

        I think I’m finished with the discussion as I’m not getting any of my questions answered so I can figure out where you’re coming from, and only receiving silly schoolyard insults for my trouble.

        I’m probably wasting my time, but here goes one last effort to find the the line between us, (or maybe some common ground, though I doubt it):

        My understanding of Aisha and Muhammed is that he married her when she was six and had sex with her when she was nine.

        I’m not okay with adult men having sex with nine year old girls and I’m fully in support of the fact that it’s illegal.

        What about you?

    • 5n4k33y35

      In the contemporary Western society it is very unlikely for any man to gain the consent of the parents of any girl so young for marriage. Furthermore, it is not legal in any western country. The lowest age of consent in the Western society is 13 in Spain, I believe. It is a moot point.

      You Feminists can’t control your crying jags about something which happened 1400 years ago. Personally, it doesn’t bother me at all for Muslims and Hindus to have their traditional arranged marriages according to their customs.

      The age of consent for marriage in the western society is uniformly too high. I object to homosexual marriage. The values of the contemporary western society have become alien to me.

      Within Christendom there is a Crusade against Feminism. Within the Islamic Middle East and the Islamic societies of the Orient, there is a Jihad (of ideological opposition) against Feminism. The Patriarchy is rising.

      • ViktorNN

        You seem like a courageous fellow who doesn’t care what any thinks about you. So why all of a sudden the timidity when it comes to answering a simple question? You obviously aren’t ashamed, so… what’s holding you back?

        Adults having sex with underage kids: yes or no?

    • 5n4k33y35

      If it were within the context of the lawful marriage of a husband and wife, the bride is beyond the age of menarche, she gives her consent, her parents also consent, and the marriage is in accordance with the laws of their society, then I would not object.

      However, I still have reservations, and I find it difficult to imagine a social context in which all of these criteria could be met in the modern society which is afflicted by moral degeneracy.

      In principle, I do not object to the idea outright. There is no possibility of this being approved by law in a multicultural society.

      I would not trust the integrity of a multicultural society to be so permissive in the law. This could only be permissible within the context of racial homogeneity.

      To rail against the marriage of the Islamic Prophet Mohammed and his child bride Aisha is a fool’s errand for Feminist ideologues and their homosexual sycophants, of which you are either one or the other.

    • 5n4k33y35

      Within a strictly heterosexual context, within the context of racial homogeneity, with approval from the parents of the bride, consent from the bride herself, after menarche, and in accordance with the law, I do not object.

      Your question has already been answered more than once, Feminist.

      Now I ask you, do you agree with homosexual marriage?

      • ViktorNN

        Because I’m not a pedophile like you, that makes me a “Feminist?”

        And no, I don’t agree with homosexual marriage, pedophile.

    • 5n4k33y35

      You’re a faggot. I’d rather be a heterosexual man who marries a girl than a faggot like you. 

      • ViktorNN

        You’re a pedophile who should be put down like some sick animal.

    • 5n4k33y35

      You’re welcome to try and I’ll ram my German bayonet through your skull.

  • Up to my neck in CA

    The poor dears, it must be contagious.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e4_1350733190