Neighbors Shocked by Murder of Mom, Kids

Melissa Reid, Fox 8 (Cleveland), September 10, 2012

A memorial continues to grow outside a small gray house on John Street in Sandusky.

Inside, police said Curtis Clinton, 41, took the life of Heather Jackson, 23, and her 3-year-old girl and 18-month-old boy over the weekend.

Monday, Clinton was charged with three counts of aggravated murder after police said he strangled the three of them inside the home.

Next-door neighbor Leah Howman said that Jackson and her kids had just moved in a little over a week ago.

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Upon arrival, Sandusky Police discovered an unthinkable scene:  Heather Jackson’s body was underneath a mattress, her two children’s bodies were in a closet.

[Editor’s Note: Another report on this murder says the victim knew her attacker and had invited him into the home.]

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  • Puggg
    • 5n4k33y3s

       White people ought to make a crime database, because municipal, state, and federal governments cannot be trusted to keep an accurate tally of what is really happening.

  • IstvanIN

    Pretty girl and two beautiful children.   It is a shame when children have to pay for the stupidity of their parents, let a black into her home.

    • The__Bobster

      It’s too bad that White females are ignorant of the “cleaning out da nest” phenomenon common among bucks.

    • 5n4k33y3s

      Her kids lost their lives because their mother was a feminist, defiant to their father, consorting with criminal black men, apparently.

      • Sherman_McCoy

        I AM curious about the story of this family, and what other lessons may gleaned from it, other than the obvious.

    • I live in a diversifying neighborhood. I see white women go out of their way to talk to blacks at the bus stop and the grocery store. I assume they want to show our new arrivals that they’re not racists and to prove how friendly they are. I assume blacks tell their friends in the old neighborhood how friendly the white folk are here encouraging more blacks (and Hispanics) to move here.

  • Defiant White

    Shock? 

    Why?

    I guess neither Heather (or her community) has been keeping up with AMREN . . .

    Alternative white news and analysis sources document daily the depravity and barbarity of blacks.  Sometimes what you don’t know CAN kill you.

  • A truly horrific event. My heart sank when they showed the picture of those two beautiful babies.  The news article never mentioned anything about robbery, or stolen goods, or forced entry etc. From what I have read about this story, the adult victim may have possibly  had some sort of short term relationship with the attacker.

    I have noticed a new phenomenon that is occurring in regards to white single mothers. I have read about several different cases in which they bring black males into their home. I read another one out of Denver about 3 weeks ago in which the very same thing happened. The white mother dated some black dude, they split up, and he killed her and little son. I am only in my thirties, and I can say that that never really happened as little as twenty years ago.

    • IstvanIN

      White girls who dated blacks were disgusting trash who brought shame on their parents.  Now they are cool, at least to some.  Anyone with brains still thinks they are disgusting.

  • kminta

    AR is still doing what it does best, I see: reporting only interracial crime while leaving out intra-racial crime. 

    And here’s the part where one of you are going to explain to me how this atrocity, heinous as it is, is somehow worse than the slayings of a Connecticut man’s wife and daughters some years back. (And if your response is that the mainstream media didn’t pay enough attention to the black-on-white crime above, I’m just letting you know off the bat that’s a weak reason.)

    • Puggg

      1.  It’s not worse, the victims are just as dead.

      2.  However, the odds are much higher when blacks are around.

      • kminta

        Still, some objectivity in terms of crime-reporting from this website would be nice, for once. I’m sure you agree that white-on-white crime victims deserve just as much sympathy from you folks as black-on-white crime victims, correct?

        • Michael C. Scott

          Which “white-on-black” crimes are those?

          Noose hoaxes?

          • kminta

            I’m talking about white-on-white crime, “genius”! 

            You know, the same race crimes that AR doesn’t like discussing.

          • refocus

            The white on white crime is obviously far worse than the black on white crime BUT interracial crime constitutes a form of warfare and it is necessary that it be analyzed as such. 

            The intra-racial crime is a form of suicide and is as such probably to complex to analyze.

          • IstvanIN

            Kminta: are you black or just dopey?

          • The__Bobster

            Hey, “Einstein”. You come around here every month or so and make the same ignorant argument. We’ve addressed your comments every time, but you’re never satisfied. You’re only here to make trouble. Get lost, troll.

        • http://www.amren.com/about/issues/
          I don’t read “fair and balanced” anywhere in that.  We don’t cloak ourselves in the phony raiment of “objectivity.” Meanwhile, the MSM does. Our complaints about their lack of objectivity are totally valid, your complaints about our lack of objectivity are not.

          • kminta

            On the contrary, they are valid because it demonstrates how you’re all just the same as MSM. If think because the New York Times and other mainstream media outlets don’t cover interracial crime enough for you makes it all right for you folks to do the same in terms of deliberately leaving out intra-racial crime…well, congratulations, you’ve become that which so vehemently criticize.

            Would it kill you folks to report at least one instance of white-on-white crime? Just once in your existence? Yes, it would kill you to do that because you’d be forced to admit that maybe, just maybe, not all blacks and other non-whites are hostile, racist criminals that you hope to convince most whites into believing.

          • Puggg

            I don’t think a medium that exists for white racial interests should bother reporting white-on-white crime just for the sake of doing so.

            not all blacks and other non-whites are hostile, racist criminals

            You’re right, and if anyone her ever insinuated such, they are wrong. But that’s not the point.

          • IstvanIN

             We get the news here the MSM won’t report.  We know there is white-on-white crime.  It is the much bigger problem of black/brown on white genocide that goes un- or under-reported.  Please go away you nit wit.

          • IstvanIN

            To be fair, local MSM sources report these stories, and both the day and night have a thousand eyes on behalf of AR.  The big element of media hypocrisy is which interracial crime stories hit the media stratosphere.

          • John Bonham

            All you have to do is look at the FBI crime statistics .. It is all you need to know about crime rates, according to race..
            You’re argument is weak because if I want to read about “intra-racial” crime I would pick up a copy of the New York times.. I KNOW that it’s all in there, but of course lacking in interracial crimes, where as AM prints those.. AM wouldn’t have to cover interracial crimes if the New York times and all of the rest of the lame stream media reported it as well.. Was that ok ? Did I explain it enough or …..

          • IstvanIN

             I can not respond where I want to so will do it here: yes, the MSM media will report crimes like this locally, once, and never again.  Had a white man killed a black female and her offspring it would be NATIONAL news for gosh knows how long.

          • kminta

            And that’s all you care about, is it? The degree of attention certain crimes get and not justice being served in each criminal case?

            For the record, I, as a black person, readily admit that blacks are, indeed, responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime in this nation. And on that note, I hope that the creature who committed this horrible crime, if guilty as charged,  gets the death penalty because I don’t want my tax dollars going towards keeping this useless degenerate alive to a ripe old age. 

            That said, I understand your frustration with the general media in not reporting certain heinous crimes such as this latest one picked up by AR. But I, for one, am equally disturbed by the fact that some, if not all of you, can’t see how black-on-white crime and white-on-white crime are two sides of the same coin. Why can’t you whites see that white-on-white murder IS WHITE GENOCIDE?

          • 5n4k33y3s

            This is a response to kminta: IstvanIN said that if this crime were white on black, it would be national news for a long time. Actually, it would be international news .

            kminta, I’m glad you’re a human being, decent enough to condemn this crime and advocate the death penalty. That’s good, but you could do better than that.

            Why not address what IstvanIN said? There is a ridiculous racial double standard in the media.

            Your question does not deserve an answer until you respond to IstvanIN’s statement. Do you agree or disagree with his statement?

          • kminta

            To accommodate 5n4….here, I’ll attempt to answer IstvanIN’s question.

            While it’s painfully apparent that the general mass media acknowledges certain crimes and pays little attention to the rest, it is also clear to me that this web forum is doing the exact same thing in discussing only interracial crime. For the MSM, if the crime is white-on-white or white-on-nonwhite, they’re all over it. But when it’s black-on-white, who cares? Is that what this is all about? 

            Our bias, liberal media may have a hidden agenda in terms of its crime reporting and race. But then, so does American Renaissance with its non-stop coverage of minority-on-white crime and caring little about white-on-white crime victims. Again, if the criminal in this instance had been white instead of black, there’d be absolute silence from both you and this website. Hence, there’s YOUR bias. White-on-white crime victims don’t deserve an iota of sympathy from their fellow whites because they were victimized by their own kind. That’s the message I’m getting from this website.

            If the degree of attention certain crimes get is all you folks care about rather than justice being served for white crime victims, well…it’s nice to know that you have your priorities “straight”.

          • kminta – Why is it any of your business what we do to each other? We don’t worry about what blacks do to each other. 
            You worry about your people – we’ll worry about our people. 
            You can speak when one of our people unjustly hurts and kills one of your people.
            We’ll speak when one of yours unjustly hurts and kills one of ours. 
            Kapeesh?

        • libertarian1234

          “Still, some objectivity in terms of crime-reporting from this website would be nice, for once. I’m sure you agree that white-on-white crime victims deserve just as much sympathy from you folks as black-on-white crime victims, correct?”

          All violent deaths are reprehensible, but this isn’t an anti-crime site, per se, so your logic is a bit faulty, “genius.”  It is a racial awareness/realist site that is comprised of people who are fed up with black on white out-of-control beatings, tortures and murders, because there’s far, far too much of it.

          On average there are 37,500 black on white rapes per year, with the reverse being statistically zero. Black on white racial attacks are many times greater than the other way around, as are all other crimes.

          Black flash mob beatings, maimings, robberies and murders are at epidemic proportions now, as even Thomas Sowell and other blacks have noted.

          Many people are now tracking them as well.
           violentflashmobs.com/

          Colin Flaherty,World Net Daily,  http://tinyurl.com/9eryhnu

          Your disgusting do-gooderism is responsible for most of the the one-sided racial war now occurring, because you’ve either been programmed with mental conditioning into a lab rat mentality that responds to criticism against black on white violence on cue or you’re too dense to understand  the threat posed by the situation to white people throughout the country.

          You’re also probably too ignorant to know that the majority of blacks throughout the country despise whites, because they love to have somebody to blame for their inability to achieve, rather than admit they don’t have the ability or intelligence to do so, as other groups in the country have done for many years now. There’s a lot of jealousy involved there as well.

          Personally, my greatest dream is to have those like you and your family picked up and set down in the middle of a black neighborhood so you can all enjoy the joys of diversity together.

          Which probably wouldn’t be for very long, because you probably wouldn’t last more than a month at most.

          • kminta

            Well since whites have more physical contact with each other than they generally do with blacks, wouldn’t it make more sense to focus on white-on-white crime with equal emphasis as black-on-white crime? I mean, this is a pro-white website, is it not? Don’t the victims of white-on-white crime deserve you compassion as much as those whites victimized by blacks?

            Perhaps I’m mistaken here, but all I’m getting from you folks is that blacks are responsible for ALL crime in this country; and although that might be largely true, it doesn’t paint the whole picture of criminality in this nation. 

            If you people really are looking out for the best interests of whites, you’d start including white-on-white crime victims in your reporting.

          • Ulick

            “For the record, I, as a black person, readily admit that blacks are, indeed, responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime in this nation.”

            I respect you for admitting this truth above.  Do you think that higher crime rate is genetic, cultural, or socio-economic?

          • kminta

            Ulick,

            A generation ago, black criminality was significantly lower than that of the white population in this country. But that all changed with integration and all the nonsense that came about during the latter portion of the 20th century. 

            Now, today’s black youth (and American youth as a whole) are encouraged to indulge in a culture that glorifies primitiveness and the lowest aspects s of human behavior. 

            So to answer your question, perhaps it is partly genetic. But genes isn’t everything. Our devolving culture coupled with the ilk of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton is mostly to blame for black mayhem, I think.

          • 5n4k33y3s

            kminta, the blacks of America need to quit being so hypocritical racist and curb their degenerate criminal impulses as well.

            The only reason I’m not voting for Romney is because he’s basically promised to start a war with Iran on behalf of Israel.

            But I gotta tell you, I’m kinda pissed off at the leadership of American blacks. I voted for Obama once, but he has not been very even-handed. I won’t vote for Obama again.

            And guess why? It’s two reasons – one the progressive platform is dumb. And two – so many hypocritical, racist, blacks are acting entitled.

            After a surge of black street aggression in NYC (I fought five dudes in one year), and across the nation, I’ve become acutely aware of something which I was only peripherally aware of before: The media hates whites, especially white men.

            Regardless of who wins (I don’t really care), white men are going to organize and put an end to the 50 year surge of anti-white-male social trends.

          • 5n4k33y3s

             Black on white rape certainly happens more than the reverse, both in numbers and in proportion to population, but the numbers you cite are likely exaggerated because they didn’t factor in all the Feminist rape lies.

            Feminists are the ones dragging white society down from within. They lie about rape constantly. They falsely accuse white men even more than they do blacks.

            Not to be pedantic, but I can’t see any national statistics on rape without mentioning the widespread fraud by Feminist rape lie racketeers.

          • John Bonham

             Ok , lets say then 30,000 rapes … I’ll give 7000 ..
            What, not enough ? ok then I’ll give 10,000 liars ..
            That’s still 27,000 rapes to none …
            Your post doesn’t sound too bright, now that I’ve broken it down in numbers ,eh ?
            Really, what was the point you were trying to make ??

          • 5n4k33y3s

            John Bonham: what that means is that Feminists are doing this to white men too, but on a larger scale.

            American blacks are more criminally inclined. We all know this. The media prefers to ignore their crimes, and put a spotlight on the far less common crimes by whites. We all know this as well.

            But what most people in the white solidarity scene don’t appear to realize, is that Feminism is our biggest problem. Women lie about rape, domestic violence, and sexual harassment – a lot.

            And that’s why the black leadership tends to support feminism. White men have further to fall, as a consequence of feminist treachery. That’s why blacks are more enthusiastic about Feminism.

            To illustrate the point, far more white women are voting for Obama than white men are. Obama supports feminism.

            Feminism is overtly anti-white. It’s in their slogans and their literature. Don’t take my word for it. Take their word for it.

            The point is, Feminists lie about rape – a lot. Likewise with domestic violence, sexual harassment, and prostitution. Feminists target white men of high status, and they coddle black men.

            Anyway, with regard to the rape statistics, a certain percentage of those are false accusations. Even more of the white men accused of rape are false accusations.

            Whatever that number is, I want it known. Not only because I resent injustice against men, but because I resent injustice, generally. And furthermore, because falsely accused white men lose more, because we have more to lose.

        • SLCain

          “Still, some objectivity in terms of crime-reporting from this website would be nice, for once.”

          That’s what this website, and others like it, provide …………… some objectivity.  If we want to see news stories in which the nature of black crime – that it is very often viciously brutal, fiendishly malevolent, and casually undertaken –  is distorted, and the reality of it – that blacks commit crimes at much higher rates than any other race – systematically suppressed, we could peruse any of the major (or even minor) news outlets.

          We don’t need any advice from apologists for the black crime wave, such as you.

        • 5n4k33y3s

          Kminta, you anti-white ideologues have the whole mainstream media to yourselves. You’re just acting butt-hurt because some white folks found a place where the anti-white media bias can be revealed before our very eyes. We can’t find these stories in the national media. That’s why many of us are here.

        • whiteuncleruckus

          I think I can answer you and I dont speak for AmRen in any way. But to report white on white crime here is to miss the point. If a white person kills another white person, I think it’s reasonable to assume that the crime wasnt racially motivated. Intra-racial crime has always existed everywhere throughout humanity and is not motivated by racism. Even if there was a whites only country somewhere, there would still be white on white crime. it’s a different kind of problem that isnt addressed here. I think most people here believe black on white crime is a much greater threat.

          • It’s completely natural for attacks that cross racial boundaries to be taken differently. Of course that’s not saying that intra-racial is taken as any less bad – but it’s different.  I’m not saying I’m in favor of hate crime laws. Current hate crime laws cover everyone EXCEPT white non-Jews. Unless said white is gay or transgender etc. 

            It would be completely understandable for blacks to be more upset if they were being threatened, attacked, raped and/or killed on a regular basis by non-blacks than about the same amount or more happening amongst themselves. We all know how blacks kill each other and blacks know very well how much they kill each other. They aren’t out hootin and hollering about it. And anytime someone within their community tried to address the issue without blaming whitey they get no response or support. If whites committed a 10th of the violence on blacks that they do to themselves they’d either be trying to leave the country or never ever going into white neighborhoods. 

            They’d avoid whites as much as possible if they sincerely never knew when one [or a pack] were going to beat down, rob, rape or kill them.  

            Blacks are actually rather “scary” [ie fearful – in the “black sense” of the term] when they are afraid or know they have good reason to be.

    • The__Bobster

      I see Kamala, our African troll, is back.

      http://thekgexpress.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/kamala.jpg

      • kminta

        It’s Kminta, you skank!

        Oh, are you a man? I couldn’t tell!

      • kminta

        It’s Kminta, you twit!

        BTW, you shouldn’t display pictures of your wife like that.

    • 5n4k33y3s

      There have been like five of these black on white home invasion rape/murders since I first heard the news of the white on white crime in Connecticut. Also, a black guy did this to a Mexican family as well.

    • John Bonham

      Weak reason because YOU say so ??  Oh, ok.. SMH

    • kminta

      Deleting my comments again, Mr. Moderator? Let me guess: I’m being too troll-ish for your taste. How’s about giving me an example of my “troll-ishness” because from where I’m standing, you folks just can’t handle someone who isn’t afraid to call you out for the hypocritical jerks you’re devolving into. No appreciation for differing opinions, I see. 

      You wanna be bias towards me because I don’t toe in line with your collective thoughts on blacks and race in general, go right ahead. I’ll bet if I were white criticizing you folks on the issue of race, my posts would still be there simply because we share the same skin color. Just embracing what you like and rejecting what you don’t like. Just like our national media.

      Always remember that hypocrisy works both ways. Interracial crime may be of greater concern to you folks, but since blacks and whites don’t come into contact with each other in their daily lives, you may want to factor in intra-racial crime as a priority. (Just some sound advice.)

      • From the top:

        1.  We’re biased.  We get it.

        2.  If you’re going to act like a troll, you’ll be deleted like a troll.  If you come to the table with thoughtful criticism, it will be left up, but it will also be responded to.

        • kminta

          I reiterate, please give me at least one example of me being troll-ish.

          “We’re biased. We get it.” 

          That’s all I wanted for you to admit. Now how’s about some objectivity up in this website, huh?!?

          • No objectivity because we’re biased.  This conversation ends now because we don’t want to get dizzy.

          • kminta

            I’m starting to get dizzy myself; dizzy from the fact that what you, Mr. Moderator, failed to see what I was requesting: that you folks start being a little more objective in you reporting on race and crime. Perhaps then the fine line between you and the mass media will finally be drawn in the sand.

            Yeah, this conversation is over because, unfortunately, Mr. Moderator failed to grasp what I was asking of him, and I doubt that he eventually will.

            P.S.: I’m still waiting on your sample of me being too troll-ish.

          • libertarian1234

            “That’s all I wanted for you to admit. Now how’s about some objectivity up in this website, huh?!?”

            You wouldn’t recognize objectivity if you saw it.

            And why is it that what this web site contains is such an obsessive concern with you?

            You’re not only going to fail to change the thinking here, but the bad examples you offer using black reason and logic are doing your entire group more harm than if you kept quiet.

          • kminta

            “And why is it that what this web site contains is such an obsessive concern with you?”
            Maybe it’s just my natural charm.

            You think I’m nobody special, you’re probably right. I’m just a young black person who, much to your dismay, defies all the black racial stereotypes that you so love to indulge in. The fact that you seem so compelled to respond to me with such hostility suggests (a) you’re harboring latent homosexual feelings and are secretly in love with me, or (b) I’ve given you something to think about in terms of being objective in looking at race and crime. I’m leaning towards “A”. 

            Anyway, it was never my intention to alter the thought process of you folks here. You’re a pro-white website and I respect that. But when measure the scales of justice with white intra-racial crime victims and white interracial crime victims, don’t you think that they kinda balance each other out?

      • libertarian1234

        “Always remember that hypocrisy works both ways. Interracial crime may be of greater concern to you folks, but since blacks and whites don’t come into contact with each other in their daily lives, you may want to factor in intra-racial crime as a priority. (Just some sound advice.)”

        You run your bony fingers across your key board and you don’t write a single thing that’s worth while, nor does most of it make sense.

        You claim a higher than average black I.Q., but you don’t show even the slightest evidence of it. In fact what you write and your lack of comprehension is indicative of just the opposite,  typical of someone who is pretty dim-witted.

        You’re caught up in some fixation where you reveal a rabid hysteria over people who complain about black on white crime, and you badly want to see it stopped.  And in the pursuit of this goal you point out ludicrous comparisons in an attempt to convince the people here they should complain about white crime too.

        If you have college certification you’re an excellent example of the failure of affirmative action where unqualified blacks are admitted, then pushed through the system barely able to read their certification upon cmpletion.

        As one professor put it, “We must pass X number of blacks through the system whether they’re qualified or not or we’re called forth by the administration to answer for it.”

        You can’t contribute thoughtful points of contention or rebuttal, so if your posts are deleted you should understand that this is the reason your most nonsensical rants are not accepted.

        .

        • kminta

          Hey, looks who’s returned for another written beat down?

          Objectiveness. Does that word mean anything to you, Lib? My overall point in being here is to demonstrate this websites’ lack of objectiveness in attributing everything bad in this country on nonwhites, while blatantly disregarding the roles whites have played in American’s current discourse. 

          Look, I’ve tried to be civil with you, Lib. But if you’re going to continue berating me like this…then, at the risk of having my comments again removed by Mr. Moderator here for being too “troll-ish”, it’s only just that I return the favor.  

          If interracial crime is all you care about, while leaving out the higher prevalence of intra-racial crime (white victims and all), well sadly, that just tells me that your IQ can’t be any higher than 90. And for the last time, please, oh, pretty please, explain the difference between same race crime and crimes in which the victim and the perpetrator are of differing races. If frequency is your answer, then you’ve just surrendered to the notion that intra-racial crime is more prevalent.

          The truth of the matter is, you whites want to go back to the days where you could unjustly lynch my folk and get away with calling a black “n****er* without suffering any repercussions. Long gone are the days when whites could treat blacks and other nonwhites like subhumans and deny them equal rights. Like it or not, now you have to share the power with this nation’s former slaves; and that galls you no end, doesn’t it?

          Face it, Lib! white racism is so early 20th century. Time to move forward into the new millennium in which so-called “race realism” is grandson of Jim Crow; and we all know what happened to that tired, old philosophy in the long run.

          Oh, and for the record, I’m a graduate of NYU. Not an Ivy League school, mind you. But that fact that they don’t have affirmative action (at least when I first enrolled) makes my MA in Computer Science all the more sweeter. What college did you attend? Oh, that’s right. To get into college, you first need to have a high school diploma; and judging by your childish rants against me, you couldn’t have made it any higher than the 9th grade.

          So there  you have it, folks! Through the use of a simple keyboard, yours truly has delivered yet another severe written lashing to ignorant Mr. Libertarian1234, who, hopefully, has learned something and is, now, a little less ignorant and arrogant than before.

          Class dismissed!

          • libertarian1234

            “Hey, looks who’s returned for another written beat down.”
             
            LOL!

            When was the first one?  How about an example?

            In fact, you haven’t addressed the vast majority of my points/counterpoints directed at you.

            Why have you avoided them?

            You didn’t even address the above points adequately and instead rambled off into a confused mess of irrelevant statements, all off the mark.

            Your braggardly, self-serving remarks about your alleged brilliance is laughable to anyone with half a brain who reads what you write, and it makes you out as a fool who obviously has a delusional image of himself, wherein he thinks he’s some kind of well-informed high intellect, oblivious to the fact he is neither intellectual nor intelligent.

            If you are a cut above the average 85 I.Q. black, you are STILL far below the average educated white.

            And the above post….and all the rest…. proves exactly that.  

          • kminta

            Some people are just a glutton for punishment.

            Still avoiding my main question to you, I see. Have no good answer as to what makes interracial crime worse than intra-racial crime, huh?!? So obsessed with black-on-white crime that you can no longer see straight. All objectivity is lost to you, that much is painfully apparent.

            If you were the victim of black-on-white crime at some point in your life, I’m real sorry for that and that may explain your personal bias towards my kind. Personally, I was the victim of white-on-black bias in my lifetime. Does that mean that I should start hating all whites? Also, should a white-on-white rape victim start fearing all white men due to her traumatic experience?

            Still can’t seem to stop berating me, I see. You know, when someone lashes out with insults as you have during our “friendly” conversation, it’s a strong indicator that he/she is losing the argument from a rational standpoint. So in that respect, you were defeated the moment you uttered your first uncivil remark.

            Oh, and for the record, I have responded to your questions with  intelligence and skill. If you weren’t satisfied with my answers or are just not intelligent enough to comprehend a reasonable response when you read one, that’s not my fault.

             

          • libertarian1234

            Replying to kminta 
             
            “If you were the victim of black-on-white crime at some point in your life, I’m real sorry for that and that may explain your personal bias towards my kind.”
             
            I have not been a victim of blacks, but I have observed their bad behavior many times in my life.
             
            What you can’t seem to understand is that it isn’t just the people on this site who do not care for blacks generally.   Most white people do not like blacks because they’re crude, rude, loud,  and…for the most part…stupid. 
             
            If you doubt this, why do you think people move out of neighborhoods when blacks move in?
             
             You would be surprised to know that white people, generally, sound no different in their complaints about blacks when speaking in private to one another.
             
            You have been deluded into believing what you read and hear from the MSM, the press, the entertainment industry and people who have a vested interest in assuring their assets and power are protected by doing and saying anything to avoid large scale civil conflict.

            In otherwords what they pretend to believe and what they say is a ruse to gain the confidence of blacks because they don’t want to see them riot, which will jeopardize their power, positions and money.

            Believe me, if they were given truth serum most of them would admit to detesting blacks and their abysmal crime and behavior. If you don’t know any of that, then you’ve been duped. You’ve been played for a fool. You have effectively been controlled by the powers that be.

            Want to know what whites on other sites think of blacks?  Well, just take a trip through the internet forums and you will see far more anti-black animosity than you do here.
             
            Too, most all blacks are anti-white racists to the very core. What Jeremiah Wright, Calypso Louie, the Black Panthers, the Uhuru movement and the black ledership scream and wail about is an abject hatred of white people and these feelings are common throughout every black community in the country.
             
            It is a fact that blacks despise whites because they’re jealous mostly, because they can’t compete with them, and they love to hear Wright, Farrakhan, Jesse and Al tell them the only reason they can’t succeed is because they’re being “held back by the white man, ” when the truth of the matter is that blacks can’t achieve any measure of success as a group due to low intelligence, lack of ability and almost zero motivation.
             
            Blacks would rather hate whitey for their failures because it gives them an excuse when they fail. It is this hatred for whites that prompts them…mostly….to commit non-property crimes against whites.
             
            Too, you can’t seem to understand that there’s a one-sided race war by blacks against whites, which I have offerred ample evidence of in my other posts.
             
            Too, you aren’t bright enough to understand that whether white on white crimes are not given the play as black on white crimes is immaterial due to the fact that the white on white crime….for the vast majority…doesn’t reach the level of hate and contempt black on white crimes do, and most black on white crimes are based on racial hatred.  White on white crimes are not.
             
            White people can walk through a white neighborhood even if it’s a bad one and not be assaulted, beaten, robbed or killed.  That is not the case in most every urban neighborhood in the country.
             
            Too, did you know that Asians that go to school with blacks are being attacked by blacks, because blacks are jealous of them, because they out-perform blacks?
             
            http://tinyurl.com/8h3nlsl
             
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0Nge6xlt-0

            There’salso a black/Latina racial conflict now going on in California according to Sheriff Lee Baca.

            So, you see, it isn’t just white criticism of blacks that is dominating the country now.

             
             
             
             
             

          • kminta

            Still talking about blacks and nothing else, I see. Why such a vested interests in us, Lib? And why no mention of those other pesky racial groups like Arabs, Indians and Asians? Let me guess: your favorite color is “black”, right?

            The fact that you’ve never been the victim of black-on-white crime only weakens your position here; whereas I, back in college, was once called “n***er” to my face and beaten up by a group of white gang-bangers. I was hospitalized and had stitches in my forehead for month. (And, by the way, even though the police caught the thugs who did that to me, it was considered a “hate crime” and never prosecuted.) 

            If you ever become the victim of a malicious beat down by a different racial group like I was, please e-mail me and tell me all about it. In the meantime, if you haven’t been there as I have, please don’t pretend like you know how a crime victim feels.You see, Lib, unlike you, I have been the victim of racial bias. And, unlike you, I don’t use that as a justification for berating and putting down other groups just to make myself feel good. I believe in looking for the good and evil in ALL PEOPLE because that’s what being objective is all about.

            White folks really neither care nor like blacks, you say? Well on behalf of the black race, I declare that I honest don’t give a rat’s a– about the opinion whites generally have for blacks or me as an individual, for it serves as no impediment towards the overall course God has planned for me. I know who I am: a human being just as you are, free to pursue my own happiness as I wish.

            And by whose standards do you declare blacks inferior? Yours? Indeed, all men are not created equal. But to declare one’s self “worthy” and the other “unworthy” based on a criteria set by yourself is to indulge in a tautology; which, when you think about it, is just being an egotistical a–hole.

            If you wanna measure success, it’s got to be looked at from a purely objective standpoint, as the late white racialist Revilo Oliver correctly contested. And think that me and you can both agree that success can only be objectively determined through one’s biological fitness. The weak perish and the strong survive. And from a Darwinian standpoint, blacks and other nonwhites are succeeding at a rate far greater than whites. With being only 8% of the world’s population and shrinking, whites like yourself had better start having offspring and fast.

            Interracial crime versus Intra-racial crime: which is worse? Being victimized by an outsider with whom you have no kinship with, or being the victim of one of your own, which could be seen as the equivalent of racial betrayal? So long as people have an innate preference for their own, he cold, hard fact is that same race crime has, and always will be, the #1 in terms overall criminality in this country. Get that through your pea-brain!

            Criticism of blacks from other racial groups, I don’t mind; so long as its constructive, civil and sincere. What I won’t tolerate is being berated as stupid, incompetent and worthless, as clearly evident in your continuous hostile rants towards me. If you can’t respond to my comments like a civilized person, as mandated by policies established here on AR, then do yourself a favor and grow up and stop being such a cry baby.

            I don’t know about you, Lib, but I’m getting bored with this  futile exchange of written warfare. Your one-sided fixation on black-on-white crime and arrogant belief in Negro inferiority (coupled with your unwarranted hostility towards me) just tells me that you’re a kid in an adult’s body; physically evolved, but not mentally. Such a shame!

          • kminta

            I hope you understand if we don’t all believe that you were the victim of the kind of violent crime you say you were.  Maybe you were.  But I know that about once a month or so, we’ll get drive by blacks posting that they were the victim of a violent crime described in an AR story only reversing the races, as the AR story is black-on-white and they claim that the “exact same thing happened to me” as a supposed white-on-black crime.  Or sometimes they won’t claim to be a victim of the exact same series of events, but they’ll say something outlandish that “when I was 15 and living in Boston, a gang of whites wearing white robes and sheets and hoods and flying Confederate Battle Flags jumped me, stripped me down to my skivvies and then laughed at me as they ran off with my clothes.”

          • libertarian1234

            To Kminta:

            I’ve responded with a new thread that will probably appear below. 

            This will be my last word on the matter.
             
             

  • KD_Did

    I live only about 50 miles from Sandusky and have been looking for this news on Amren.  I told my son when I saw this incident, and before any suspects were taken in, that I had a feeling it would be a black man. He was arrested the next day.  The city is small and diverse.  The poor woman and her little unsuspecting children were all alone and unprotected. News says she knew the man as an aquatence.  She had only lived there a short time…It didnt take long.  My guess is that she denied his advances.  Such a sad story. beautiful children.  

  • Rob

    This is kinda like the case about 15 years ago when a white woman and her two white children were killed, and the unborn half black fetus was cut out of her. Remember it? They let the half black child of her LIVE. She tolerated mind boggling levels of abuse from her eventual killer. Her parents didnt seem to object to her being with the black who eventuallly killed her,and sired her mulatto baby. ALL whites, and especially women, should learn about this case, so they can beware of black predators. (Peejay)

    • Yes, I remember that crime. The white woman’s son was killed and his corpse dumped in Maywood IL, a Bantu suburb of Chicago. The Bantu woman wanted a baby, so she took the mulatto rugrat. 

  • potato78

    Where is her husband?

    I thought he should be there to protect her and her family.

  • Dean_Wormers_Hot_Wife

    White women hear stories like this and dismiss their inner worries as just “latent racism rearing its ugly head” and ignore it.

  • LaSantaHermandad

    Again I ask!!! How much longer and how many more dead?

  • LaSantaHermandad

    Again I ask! How much longer and how many more of us dead?

  • kminta

    Oh, I see. So it’s all about rate and proportionality, is it? And when the remaining percentage of the US population commits crimes, that just doesn’t bother you in the least, does it? White genocide is applicable only when it’s black-on-white criminality, correct?

    It’s a well-known fact that other non-whites (Asians, Arabs and Indians) commit even less crime in this country than Hispanics, blacks, and yes, even whites. But hey, you keep on grouping all non-whites as criminals.

    • libertarian1234

      “White genocide is applicable only when it’s black-on-white criminality, correct?”

      White genocide is applicable when it is deemed to be white genocide, which is not the case with white on white crime, but is certainly the case with black on white crime.

      There has been a one-sided racial war of black against whites for decades now.  It became so bad in 1995 the stats appeared in the Sydney Morning Herald, highlighting the atrocities committed by black criminals against the white population.

      http://tinyurl.com/9zpa2fa

      “No matter how crime figures are
      massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 30 years a large segment of black America has waged a war of violent retribution against white America.”
      —snip—

      “It’s a well-known fact that other non-whites (Asians, Arabs and Indians) commit even less crime in this country than Hispanics, blacks, and yes, even whites. But hey, you keep on grouping all non-whites as criminals.”

      No we don’t either. It is blacks who commit far and away more crimes than any other group………. while Hispanics are a distant second.  Blame is given where blame is due, according to published facts.

      That’s true the world over also.  Blacks comprise the criminal element in every  society they have emigrated to, including China, which has cracked down HARD on them. 

      Blacks have the lowest I.Q. of all raceswith the possible exception of Australian Aborigines.  They turn to crime, because they can’t compete on an equal basis.

      African I.Q. is about 70 (Average) Lynn, I.Q.and Wealth of Nations.  The entirecivilized world is greater than that.

      What else can they do but turn to crime, since they don’t have the necessary discipline to learn a trade?

      • kminta

        “White genocide is applicable when it is deemed to be white genocide, which is not the case with white on white crime, but is certainly the case with black on white crime.”

        If that is not one of the most idiotic, semi-retarded responses I’ve had the misfortune to read in quite a while. What college did you graduate from? The University of Morons?

        Let me break it down for you, Lib, my boy:  the lost of any white life, even when it’s at the hands of another white, IS WHITE GENOCIDE. Please, in a rational written response, explain to me the difference this brutal black-on-white crime is somehow worse than the savage slayings of  William Petit’s wife and two daughters in 2007.
        (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders)

        Apparently, moral equivalency is an alien concept for the likes of you.

        “It is blacks who commit far and away more crimes than any other group………. while Hispanics are a distant second.”

        And whites a close third. (If you believe in reliable crime stats and Jared Taylor’s “The Color of Crime”.)

        As for black under achievement: that depends on what one considers to be success and failure, don’t you think? And since you’ve touched the subject on race and success, I think that the late white racialist (and noted anti-semite) Dr.  Revilo P. Oliver said it best with the following statement:

         “We must further understand that all races naturally regard themselves as superior to all others. We think Congoids unintelligent, but they feel only contempt for a race so stupid or craven that it fawns on them, gives them votes, lavishly subsidizes them with its own earnings, and even oppresses its own people to curry their favor. We are a race as are the others. If we attribute to ourselves a superiority, intellectual, moral, or other, in terms of our own standards, we are simply indulging in a tautology. The only objective criterion of superiority, among human races as among all other species, is biological: the strong survive, the weak perish. The superior race of mankind today is the one that will emerge victorious—whether by its technology or its fecundity–from the proximate struggle for life on an overcrowded planet.”

        • libertarian1234

          “If that is not one of the most idiotic, semi-retarded responses I’ve had the misfortune to read in quite a while. ”

          Really?  Why?

          Maybe you would like to expound a bit on why you believe the observation has no merit, because it certainly does.   It’s quite clear too, except to someone who doesn’t have the intelligence to understand it. 

          I’m sorry, old boy, but you don’t come across as anyone who has any depth. 

          ” the lost (sic) of any white life, even when it’s at the hands of another white, IS WHITE GENOCIDE. ”

          Hahahaha!

          Well, it’s apparent you’re black. No other race but a black reveals such a lack of understanding and logic.  Your use of the term “white genocide” doesn’t even fit the definition of the word.

          ”  Apparently, moral equivalency is an alien concept for the likes of you.”

          LOL!    Such brilliance. 

          Moral equivalency doesn’t even enter into the comparison you’re trying to make.  Moral equivalency would be specific to the comparison of crimes as just crimes themselves. The term has nothing to do with genocide…as you use the word…. nor has it anything to do with motive, which is what is involved when blacks kill whites, especially when an underlying motive is a hatred for the victim because of race.

          “As for black under achievement: that depends on what one considers to be success and failure, don’t you think?”

          No.  

          Standards are quite clear.

          And it isn’t just “achievement” that is lacking in blacks throughout the entire planet.  It is a lack of intelligence.

          To quote Oliver who declares that all  races regard themselves as superior  addresses an issue of perception not a legitimate rebuttal of the well-known fact that blacks are less intelligent than all races of the earth.

          Yes, you’re black.

          You’re not only illogical, you’re so arrogant you can’t see how dense you really are.  As they say, you are blind to your own stupidity, and you perceive yourself to cut quite an intellectual figure. 

          You haven’t logically rebutted one single point on here by anybody which, more than anything, proves you’re black.

        • 5n4k33y3s

          So you’re saying whites should stop subsidizing other races to out-breed us? I agree. We need more angry black agitators like you to help white liberals see the light.

        • kminta

          Still trying to avoid me responding to your post, I see! What, do I make you nervous, Lib? 

          What was the lost of thousands upon thousands of white US soldiers during World Wars’ I and II? The answer: WHITE GENOCIDE, you bonehead!! Oh, I forgot…in your twisted logic, white genocide occurs only when it’s black-0n-white. 

          When any white child is lost due to violence (be it at the hands of his/her own kind or a member of another race), that’s one white life that won’t have the chance to produce offspring genetically similar to their grandparents and so on. Hence, white replacement levels do not take place. Don’t you think that’s white genocide? 

          No, of course you don’t. According to your feeble-minded rationale, white genocide only occurs when it’s black-on-white, correct? As for moral equivalency, I think that William Petit, whose wife and two daughters were maliciously slaughtered by two WHITE MEN, would agree with me that the white-on-white crime he experienced was his own personal holocaust; and I’m sure that other white-on-white crime victims would attest to their own personal experiences.

          Sure, this doesn’t by a long shot excuse the general criminality of blacks by and large. But if “demographics is destiny” as Jared Taylor once put it, whites still (for now anyway) hold the spot of being the majority population in this country. Hence, instead of trying to heap everything crime-related on blacks, you may want to tend to your own dirty laundry and start showing some sympathy towards white-on-white crime victims. Believe it or not, victims of white-on-white violence are people, too!

          Oh, and my point with the Revilo Oliver quote was to show that success, if observed objectively, is not measured in how smart one is or civilizational capacity. It is determined through one’s biological fitness. For when all the superficial things like IQ level are removed,  the only true standard for the success of a race is whether or not they survive on this Earth. And judging by the number of whites in the world right now, it looks like we nonwhites are succeeding.

          P.S.: I can’t attest to the level of intellect of other blacks, but I scored a 125 on my last IQ test. Not “Einstein” level intelligent, but I call that something to be confident about.

        • libertarian1234

          “Still trying to avoid me responding to your post, I see!”

          You haven’t responded to most everything I’ve challenged you on,  so don’t pretend as if my comments don’t clearly address you and your failings.

          “What was the lost(sic)  of thousands upon thousands of white US soldiers during World Wars’ I and II? The answer: WHITE GENOCIDE, ”

          LOL!

          Good God, you’re stupid.

          Trying to compare lives lost in open warfare to racial black on white murders tells me you are so far off the mark you can’t even make logical comparisons.

          You don’t even know what “genocide” means.   Also, it’s apparent from your rambling discourse and inability to comprehend, even if you looked up the meaning you wouldn’t be able to understand how to apply the term.

          You’re just another black idiot who thinks he’s smart,  and you’re totally unable to  see the fallacy of the points and rebuttals you make that are on a grade school level.

          “Oh, and my point with the Revilo Oliver quote was to show that success, if observed objectively, is not measured in how smart one is or civilizational capacity.”

          Are you really so moronic you can’t see the fallacy of such ridiculous thinking….or rather a lack of thinking?

          Observing success “objectively” does not mean it should be measured without standards, only that the elimination of bias should be observed. 

          Success can’t be observed in any way other than some sort of standard of measure.  What you don’t understand is that in the absence of standards any kind of progress can be defined as success.

          You’re running amuk here thinking you’re putting down all the honkies with your irrefutable logic, responding to points you don’t understand by calling people morons, thinking that will suffice as a point of rebuttal, simply because you dismiss it as invalid.

          You must understand that you’re no more than the usual black idiot that is slightly above the black norm….but nowhere near the level of sophistication here…..  and because you’re deluded by black arrogance you stupidly believe you have abilities that don’t exist. 

          What you have accomplished on this forum is to make it quite plain to anyone reading your illogical diatribes that you can’t compete,  just as most all blacks can’t compete in any country outside of Sub-Saharan Africa.

          And your attempts to do so are pitifully inadequate.

        • libertarian1234

          “P.S.: I can’t attest to the level of intellect of other blacks, but I scored a 125 on my last IQ test. Not “Einstein” level intelligent, but I call that something to be confident about.”

           I.Q. …among other things…..measures, logic, problem solving ability and reasoning,  all of which you are sorely lacking.

          You’re on about a 95 to 100 level, but I could be too generous, because you make illogical comparisons which give every indication of being stupid.

          You were born that way.

    • KD_Did

      It’s a shame that a troll hijacked this thread when it should be about the family and the terror they endured at the hands of an animal.

      • kminta

        And it’s equally unfortunate that white-on-white crime victims like William Petit and his family gets little sympathy from his own kind. (At least on this website.)

        • 5n4k33y3s

          Actually, kminta, while venting my outrage at the media suppression of violent black-on-white crimes, especially the most gruesome, I mentioned the Connecticut case twice.

          I’m more even handed than anyone who buys into the PC bullshit like you do. There are a couple of black pundits who are even-handed, but for the most part, the media is anti-white.

          Most black American pundits are pitifully subjective and racially bigoted. Bigotry is the least of it. What it really boils down to is hatred and jealousy.

      • Sherman_McCoy

        Stop replying to the feeble-minded, and perhaps they will cease posting.  Never forget that blacks are mostly mildly retarded, and unable to grasp statistical concepts.

        • kminta

          Sherman,

          Do you consider someone with a 125 IQ as “mildly retarded?” 

          For a black, my understanding of statistical concepts is, forgive me, average at best. I’m well aware of the crime statistics in this country, which is, unfortunately, led by blacks. I’m not afraid to admit to that reality.

          But it seems to me that you can’t comprehend the reality that other nonwhites like Asians, Arabs and Indians are less likely to engage in criminal activities; and those statistics don’t lie. And yet, no mention of this on this website; nothing but black-on-white crime, 24/7. 

          What if the perpetrator of this vile criminal act had been white? Moderate to plenty of coverage on MSM, but not on this website since blacks could not be blamed for this one. At least this Bantu is smart enough to recognize a double standard when he sees one.

          5n4k33y3s,

          Unfortunately, when you’re a generation whose been brainwashed listen to the ilk of Sharpton and Jackson for many years and to attribute all their shortcomings and failures on “the evil white society”, the gullible masses will follow what they’ve been conditioned to do. Does that make black-0n-white crime understandable of excusable? Of course not. It’s just an explanation for why things are the way they are as far as race relations go.

          Things went downhill when forced integration in the nation took place. According to the late Elizabeth Wright (Issues & Views), blacks were doing just fine on their own until disaster hit in the form of the Brown vs. The Board of Ed. decision. Freedom of Association went down the drain and, as those who were there will attest, black crime and general mayhem skyrocketed. 

          I personally think that it’s too late to bring back the “good old days” of Jim Crow, nor would it be workable in today’s climate. So best that we, as Americans, can do to salvage what’s left of our Constitution is to just have Freedom of Association as it is. If people want to separate, ain’t nothin’ wrong with that! But for those who want to blend with others, I see nothing sinful about that either. Just let the chips fall where they may!

        • SLCain

          ” -kminta

          But it seems to me that you can’t comprehend the reality that other
          nonwhites like Asians, Arabs and Indians are less likely to engage in
          criminal activities; and those statistics don’t lie. And yet, no mention
          of this on this website; nothing but black-on-white crime, 24/7. ”

          East Asians and Indians – in this country – sure.  Arabs – I’m not so sure about them, not if you include property crimes.  Anyway, people on this site talk about it all the time.  Either you are new here, or you are just a shameless liar.

        • Ed_NY

          I agree Sherm, it’s impossible to have a reasonable or civil discussion with those who are ignorant.  Blacks are not reasonable, they are not civil and they are definately not  knowledgeable.

    • Ulick

      Thanks for your answer above, kminta, I apprecite it.  (I’m responding here because there was no reply option above.) 

      I do agree with you the the gangsta culture that’s emphasized among today’s black youth, the ‘blame whitey’ rhetoric of Reverends Sharpton and Jackson and their ilk, and Progressive policies that not only don’t hold people accountable for their bad actions but actually often subsidize bad decisions do lead to higher crime rates.

      The question is — How do you put the toothpaste back in the tube?  Perhaps we can cut welfare policies that subsidize the worst members of the black community producing children early and often without a father present, but I suspect that will lead to some social turmoil.

      But how do we end the gangsta lifestyle that is glorified in music which influences younfg black men without violating free speech rights?

      And, perhaps more fruitless, how do we end the “whitey wants to screw you mindset” that is pervasive, seemingly endless, and of course leads to resentment and attacks?

      (If you choose to reply and cannot reply here because the string has reached it’s maximum length, feel free to start a brand new post and I’ll catch it.)

      • kminta

        Dear Ulick,

        Personally, I think that a great deal of racial hostility from blacks against whites just stems from sheer jealousy. Let’s face it, whites have much to be proud in terms of achievement, as do Asians. The darker races, however, not so much. 

        The fact that most blacks just can’t seem to stop comparing themselves to non-blacks only serves to add on to the deep-seated envy a lot of blacks harbor for non-blacks, especially whites. This is only reinforced by the ilk of Jackson and Sharpton, who could be true heroes and positive examples for the black masses. But for some reason, find it much easier to just attribute black failures on external factors.

        Despite the gains of the Civil Rights Movement, the unpleasant truth is that most blacks still lag behind in maximizing human potential; and the fact that this has nothing to do with “white racism” is something the majority of blacks just can’t seem to accept. 

        Ultimately, I think that the black race found themselves with a choice to make: either accept their “inferiority”, or blame whitey. Thanks largely to the cultural influences of today, the decision was pretty obvious for most blacks.

        I consider myself more “evolved” than the majority of my brethren because I’ve found the maturity to accept that fact that “all men are NOT created equal” and, thanks in part to black conservatives like Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams, have rejected the rhetoric that “racism” is to blame for black America’s woes. Only when most blacks become enlightened as I’ve become will black crime (on black and on non-black) will decline, I believe.

        You know, race relations in this country weren’t always this strained. But I confess that some, if not most blacks, have made white apprehensiveness increasingly understandable due to the rate of crime over the last several decades. “Separate but equal” worked then for the most part, and I think it still applies today. What do you think?

        • Puggg

          I think that’s a product of egalitarianism combined with self-esteem.  Unless you’re up in age, everyone reading these words was taught in school that one could be anything one wanted to be, and that the races are fundamentally equal.

          So when reality sets in and most people aren’t anything as grand or spectacular as they thought they would be, most people just shrug it off.  But way too many blacks react by blowing some white person’s head off, and too many white people react by seeking substances from their psychiatrist, or becoming “anti-racist” activists.

        • Ulick

          What do I think?

          I think that you’re exceptionally honest which has to be difficult given the circumstances.

          And I think that you’re very intelligent, and that’s why you can diagnose these problems like the other vry intelligent gentleman that you cited (Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams).

          I can’t speak for all here, but when I say “blacks” I don’t mean that to say all blacks.  I believe that Murray, Hernstein, Rushton, et al have it correct when they acknowledge that members of any race can be highly intelligent, but the averages among race intelligence, impulsiveness, propensity toward violence, etc. are different and significant enough to effect group outcomes.

          For that reason I don’t believe that Separate but Equal is feasible.  That’s because the white group average and black group average are different and that difference leads to the different outcomes we see between predominantly white communities vs. predominantly black communities.  You can provide the separate communities equal resources and equal resources, but those communities will invariably become unequal because of the aforementioned group differences.  When those unequal outcomes become apparent and obvious we’ll be right back to Step 1 — rather than admitting the uncomfortable truth of what created the unequal outcome, racism will be blamed.

  • kminta

    Sounds like somebody’s getting a bit testy. What’s the matter, “Fed”? Don’t like contemplating the possibility that this website that you so adore is really no better than MSM?

    “If you can’t stand the truth of your race, begone.”

    Only if your kind is finally willing to ‘fess up to the wrongdoings committed by your race and not hide behind that disintegrating armor of white self-righteousness.

    But let’s forget about the “sins of the past” here and move forward, shall we? You’re “FedUp” with us blacks, there’s always segregation. Last time I checked, people in general still prefer to stick with their own kind. As a black, I never really saw the advantages of integration to begin with. (Even though I wasn’t even born yet.) 

    So I say let there be Freedom of Association for everyone. You wanna cling to your own, so be it. But please leave those who choose to blend with other races alone.

    • libertarian1234

      “But please leave those who choose to blend with other races alone.”

      Why? 

      Is it because you feel you’re entitled to embrace multiracialism, but we should not be allowed to embrace separatism?

      Obviously, that’s the case.

      And does it bother you to know you’re a bigot who can’t stand the thought of having your views challenged or to share space with people who do not share your perverted view of a rainbow utopia?

      I have to read more of what you write, but right now I seriously don’t think you’re black.

      But if you are black,  then why do you so desperately want to force your way into a society of whites who,  for the most part, don’t like you and express their opinions with their feet when blacks move into their neighborhoods?

      Is it because you have been fooled by the MSM, Hollywood and other far left extremists into believing that multiracialism is desired by most?

    • The__Bobster

      If you prefer your own kind, why do you keep following us?

    • kminta

      Libertarian1234,

      What, don’t want me to reply to you, Lib? Fear that I’ll put you in your place with blistering words? Just shows how much of a coward you are if your deliberately trying to any written confrontation with me.

      Contrary to what you believe, most blacks have no desire to force integrate with whites. Most blacks just want thrive on their own in this country and feel that every race should do the same. Your opinion of the black race means nothing to me or most black folks so, please, get over yourself.

      What I am for is Freedom of Association and Individual Rights. You know, just a few of the principles this nation was founded on. Like it or not, miscegenation falls under that category, but that’s a topic for some other time.

      Oh, and in case you haven’t figured it out by now, I’m black. Maybe not the stereotypical black you like to view me as, but black nonetheless.

    • John Bonham

       Does that mean our tax dollars don’t end up in the Governments hand to redistribute as they see fit ?? If you’re in favor of segregation then you can’t be in favor of taking our tax dollars
      to redistribute  .. I’m sure the very though would make you change your mind.. Just think , If the country DID segregate then everyone would have to do it on your own …
      Is that what you really want ??

    • razorrare

      kminta—in your own words…”For the MSM, if the crime is white-on-white or white-on-nonwhite, they’re all over it. “…

      Because the MSM does a good job of reporting White on White violent crime there is absolutely no need to have it reported here…if the MSM reported black on White violent crime with equal coverage Amren site & other similiar sites wouldnt exist,or at the very least traffic to these sites would be very much reduced…

      My beef with Amren is with its moderators who have shown a biased trigger finger on the censor button  for  Christians who arent PC when speaking/writing  or responding to  gay posters or Jewish issues…that is why i no longer participate in any discussions here…of course,thats obviously not factual because i am responding to you…but only because no other poster noted the obvious…your statement,not mine…”   For the MSM, if the crime is white-on-white or white-on-nonwhite, they’re all over it. “…

  • The__Bobster

    If you think the MSM aren’t conspiring against us, read the AP Stylebook.

  • potato78

    Why did she let him in?

    the victim knew her attacker and had invited him into the home.

    The scientists discovered that white men
    prefer the facial features of Asian women

    while white women go for the
    faces of black men.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2099449/Are-human-beings-hard-wired-different-races-attractive-Study-finds-white-people-rate-white-partners-SECOND.html#ixzz26PJ6HwLm

    • 5n4k33y3s

      Studies have shown… blah blah blah. Most white women miserable Feminist cunts. I want a good white girl not a white woman. That whole study is just more Feminist nonsense.

    • libertarian1234

      Why did she let him in?”

      How utterly moronic.  You’re blaming the victim,  which would be the same as blaming a car jack victim for driving a new flashy vehicle.

      “the victim knew her attacker and had invited him into the home.”

      Yes, because she was brainwashed into trusting blacks by the media and many other sources of PC drivel, supported by dregs like you who cause much of the ongoing chaos through your weak-spined foppery.

      “The scientists discovered that white men prefer the facial features of Asian women.”

      Nonsense.   

      “while white women go for the faces of black men.”

      Even more ludicrous. 

      The multicults in their pursuit of the rainbow utopia will go to any lengths, exaggerations or lies to try to mold public opinion by coming up with fallacious studies and information.

      Your multi-racial society will never see fruition, old boy.

      If we make it through the next ten years without internecine warfare it will be a miracle.

      • potato78

         I was wondering why.  I never tried to blame her.

        She as lady, should know much more than I do in the situation like that.

        Even if a white guy, she should not let any any guy in…………..

        However, this is black guy.  She should be very careful unless she knew him very well.

        Family education (never go for black, I would rather my daughter goes for far east asian male) is the most important thing in the diversity town and culture.

        I just wondered that Maybe her husband (white male) mistreated her harshly and make her very desperately go for the black, I hope that is not a case.

        Nobody talked about it in detail.

    • sarah stein

       She wanted some black cock.

  • Ulick

    That’s correct.  Force is respected and leads to less crime.  Compassion is viewed as a sign of weakness and leads to more crime.

  • Diamond_Lil

    A mattress commercial before the news of the crime?  Really, such poor taste from MSM considering the woman was found underneath a mattress.  RIP little ones, your mom was careless in inviting diversity into your little world.

  • SLCain

    kminta

    “Ulick,

    A generation ago, black criminality was significantly lower than that of the white population in this country.”

    That is a complete lie.  Blacks have always committed crimes at a higher rate than whites.

    And as to why white crime is of less concern to me – this is why:  I have more control over the circumstance that might place me in danger of being a victim of a white criminal.  Is there a bar where fights often break out?  Don’t go there.  Have a friend or relative who is dangerous or abusive?  Cut them off – don’t associate with them.  Plus, I can read white people better, because they are more like me.  On the other hand, given the fact that blacks and whites mostly don’t associate with one another, black-on-white crime is more likely to be a stranger crime, and stranger crime is harder to predict, and therefore harder to take measures against.

    And – as you’re such a big fan of freedom of association – does that mean that whites should have the right to freely associate ONLY with other whites – even to the extent of having all white neighborhoods, all white schools, civic and fraternal organizations, and the like?  Something tells me that you would answer in the negative.  So what you really advocate is freedom of association for you and yours, but not for us and ours.

    But more fundmentally, you should understand this: We really don’t need to justify ourselves to you.  A lot of whites – and more every day – are coming to the conclusion that you black people are just not worth the trouble.  We don’t ask for your leave, nor your sympathy, nor your understanding.  We don’t care if you like us or not.  That is the social reality that modern America is evolving towards.  All that Great Society / Civil Rights era stuff?   We’re over it.

    Get used to it.

    • kminta

      “That is a complete lie.  Blacks have always committed crimes at a higher rate than whites.”

      Care to provide proof of this? 

      “On the other hand, given the fact that blacks and whites mostly don’t associate with one another….”

      Precisely, whites and blacks don’t generally come into contact with each other that often. Therefore, white-on-white criminal acts should be of equal concern to you. I understand that black-on-white violence is a more common occurrence, but since all races apparently have a natural aversion to each other, doesn’t it make sense to be just as concerned about being victimized by your own? If you reside in a majority-white neighborhood, what are your chances of being assaulted or raped by a black?

      Personally, I find it to be none of my business who whites and blacks choose to associate with in general. So you’re correct when you say that I’m all for Freedom of Association. But I’m also a big fan of Individual Rights — also a hallmark in our Constitution. While whites like yourself may loathe miscegenation, just know that it falls under the category of Individual Rights and Freedom of Association; people choosing who they want as a mate. No one, and I mean NO ONE, has the Constitutional right to forcefully separate people, regardless of race.

      I think that it’s safe to say that forced integration was a huge mistake that cost everyone involved dearly. So back to voluntary segregation. (Or Freedom of Association.) Sounds just about right, don’t you agree?

      • Ernest

        There is plenty of proof it just takes leg work and research. Black crime has always been disproportionate. This from 4/21/58:

        THEY are afraid to say so in public, but many of the North’s big-city
        mayors groan in private that their biggest and most worrisome problem
        is the crime rate among Negroes.

        In 1,551 U.S. cities, according to the FBI tally for 1956, Negroes,
        making up 10% of the U.S. population, accounted for about 30% of all
        arrests, and 60% of the arrests for crimes involving violence or threat
        of bodily harm—murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery and
        aggravated assault. In one city after another, the figures—where they
        are not hidden or suppressed by politicians—reveal a shocking pattern.
        Items:Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,810262,00.html#ixzz26Qxxioby
         

        • John Bonham

           Kminta’s response ??  Crickets … lmao

          • libertarian1234

            Well,  your “crickets” comment must have piqued his huge, arrogant ego, John,  because he finally responded.

            But get a load of what he says.

            “And the vast majority of those crimes back then were INTRA-RACIAL, not interracial; which was my main point. The reality is that intra-racial crime in this country remains the most prevalent form of criminal offenses.”

            We have a situation where there has been black on white jealousy and hatred for so long the entire black community is at war with whites, beating, robbing,  maiming and killing whenever they can, and this character thinks he’s going to convince everybody we shouldn’t be anymore concerned about that than we are of crimes committed by whites.

        • kminta

          And the vast majority of those crimes back then were INTRA-RACIAL, not interracial; which was my main point. The reality is that intra-racial crime in this country remains the most prevalent form of criminal offenses. 

          But again, interracial crime is worse than intra-racial crime, am I reading you right, Ernest?

      • SLCain

         – kminta

        “”That is a complete lie.  Blacks have always committed crimes at a higher rate than whites.””

        “Care to provide proof of this?”Care to provide proof of your baseless and dishonest assertion?

        As to the rest of your post, I didn’t read it, and don’t care to waste anymore time answering you.  As I said – WE don’t care what YOU think.  Blacks have had their time on the stage.  They squandered the opportunities they had, and exhausted the good-will they had with most whites.  You are now just a tiresome annoyance.

        • kminta

          Well, this “tiresome annoyance” gets the feeling that reason you no longer want to answer me is because you know, on some level, what I’m saying about the bias observed on this website is true. 

          If whites like you really have no interests in us blacks, then why do you talk about us and other nonwhites nonstop on this website and in private, I imagine? And if you say, “It’s because all blacks commit all the crime in this country”, well, then you’re only scratching the surface on the issue of race in this country.  

          You know, there’s a simple solution to this race problem. It’s called voluntary segregation. If whites like yourself don’t want us “n****er” in your presence, you’re still free to separate yourselves as you choose and, I as a black, could care less if a white doesn’t want to socialize with me. Based on historical record, you whites aren’t exactly folks I’d want to be around, anyway.

          We leave you alone; you leave us alone. Sounds fair, don’t you agree?

          • Up to my neck in CA

            This website points out Race Realism, that there are differences in the races and to ignore these differences is asinine.
             
            “We leave you alone; you leave us alone. Sounds fair, don’t you agree?”
             
            If only the blacks could leave the Whites alone. Deep down inside you know you need Whitey to take care of you, that’s why you follow us when we flee your destruction and crime.

          • kminta

            I can’t speak for blacks in general, but I put myself through college, grad school and am currently working towards my  doctorate without anyone’s support; least of all from whites.

            For God’s sake, please get over yourself with your deluded notions of grandeur. You whites may have accomplished a lot more things than blacks, but you’re a race of fools if you give into the temptation that you’re Gods. 

            Why such a heightened interests in race realism? Could it be that whites, after denying blacks and other nonwhites equal rights, now find themselves having to share power with their “lesser” counterparts? Whites like yourself wouldn’t be so race-obsessed if America were still a place where whites could get away with lynching blacks (ala Emmett Till.)

  • 5n4k33y3s

    That’s not the lesson. The lesson is white people have to stand up to anti-white media bias. The lesson is that fatherhood has been systematically subverted, which is relevant because the father was not there. And there is a lesson that American blacks are more murderous than other races.

    But from this, one does not logically draw the conclusion that one should not ever let a black person into their home. I have a Christian friend who is a nice guy, with a wife and two daughters. He and his family can visit my home.

    Let’s not add hyperbole into this. Let’s win instead of behaving irrationally. Racist black ideologues want the dialogue to devolve into emotionalism. Emotionalism is their preferred battleground.

    My preferred battleground is reason and objectivity. Are we not white? Let us not be dragged down, beneath the level of our dignity. Let us maintain a standard of objectivity and reason in our discourse, as Jared Taylor himself does.

    Having said that, the perpetrator of this crime should be lit on fire.

    • Blacks are always looking to play an angle to their advantage. White women are naive and vulnerable to sweet-talking black men. I see black men strike up conversations with lone white women on the bus and downtown every day. Few of them will hit on lone black girls but they see the white girls as easy targets (which they are).
       
      As a white man waiting for the train downtown, I watch blacks walk past other blacks and come straight to me asking for money and cigarettes. They see us as easy marks.   

      • Sstein740

        White girls aren’t very bright.

        • 5n4k33y3s

          White girls are a hell of a lot smarter than white women are. A girl seeks to avoids strange men. The more strange, the more they would avoid them.

          This is how a girl behaves until Feminists indoctrinate her with collective white guilt mentality and girl power mentality.

          Feminism must be stamped out so white men can marry white girls before they reach the age of defiance.

          And then intrusive federal government has to be blocked from dropping Section 8 colonies into nice neighborhoods. That’s  socialism, not capitalism.

          • Diamond_Lil

            I accidentally “liked” you comment by mistake. I meant to hit the reply link.  What’s with marrying girls?  Are you a muslim?  

      • 5n4k33y3s

        Single women are different from men. You’re right about that, and I regret not including the caveat. Men and women should be expected to behave differently.

        • Diamond_Lil

          Why are you advocating pedophilia.    Moderator, please inquire.

      • 5n4k33y3s

         They’re naive because of the media bias against white men. Yeah, that is very annoying. Get rid of Feminism, and the anti-white trends will subside.

        If white men can be duped into collective guilt because we were/are bad to our women, we can be duped into collective guilt on race too.

        Feminism is the bigger problem, and dysfunctional ethnomasochism, irrational, collective emotionalism, are all the consequences of men being pussy-whipped, by fornicating, lying, Feminists.

  • scott81

    This scum had ALREADY done time for raping and killng a white  18 year old girl in 1997 but was released. I put 100% of the blame for this families death on liberals who have sought to abolish the death penalty and make criminals do as little time as possible. Liberals support and condone evil like this, he should have been swinging from a noose the first time this happened.

    And what the heck is wrong with white women, I have read multiple stories over the years of white women getting involved with brutal black ex-cons like this. What does a white woman think she has to offer a man 20 years older than her who has been to prison for rape and murder, does she think she can change him. Unbelievable.

    • patriotdad76

      Brainwashing is powerful stuff.

    • Up to my neck in CA

      If there was any true justice in America, 1st time offenders of violent crimes (rape. murder, etc) would be put down like the rabid dogs they are. Just think how much crime a good ol’ fashion firing squad would deter.

    • “What does a white woman think she has to offer a man 20 years older than her who has been to prison for rape and murder…”  

      Wrong question.  You should ask, “What does this much older ex-con black male offer this young pretty White female?”  Answer:  absolutely nothing other than sex, apparently.

  • Ray

    Trayvon Martin would’ve been another Curtis Clinton.

  • SouthernWhite

    To this day I don’t understand  why beautiful white women are attracted to these scumbag black men! I heard 2 guys talking at a resturant about wanting to ask a pretty girl out, and they said  she is attracted and wants to sleep with black men!!!!!! Anyone else know why white girls are attracted to black men so much??????

    • sarah stein

       It would appear they want to die and take their children with them.

    • I think I can answer that in two words, paisan.

      “Size matters”.

  • kminta

    And what, pray tell, were you in federal prison for, Michael? For someone with a “152 IQ”, I would think that a “highly intelligent” white like yourself would be smart enough to keep himself out of prison. Just goes to show that you can’t judge a person by his skin color. (Or, in this case, intellectual quotient.)

    The basis of my posts, coupled with my writing style, should suggests to you that my overall intelligence is above average; which would make me an “aspie” like you, correct? But I tell you what: I’ll display the results of my standardized intelligence test when you agree to show me yours first.

    Heartbreaking stories of discrimination and racism. But alas! That’s human nature for ya! And it’s obvious that you missed the general point of my post. When the massive lost of white life such as the cases of World Wars I and II, that’s a clear example of white genocide if I ever saw one. But as you profess, black-on-white crime is the only legitimate form of white genocide, right?

    In addition, I have great respect for the elderly. But as my father once wisely told me, “Old fools used to be young fools.”

  • kminta

    Oh, I’m sorry. But I was under the impression that “American” Renaissance was solely concerned about nonwhite crime here in the US. I wasn’t aware that America and Europe were of the same continent.

    Mr. Finn, please look at the FBI crime stats and read Jared Taylor’s “The Color of Crime” and get your facts straight about Arabs and overall criminality.

  • kminta

    Ah oh! Don’t look now, but it appears that you white racialists have a micegenist in your midst.  Sure, marrying a black woman might be considered worse, but race-mixing, by any other name, is still race-mixing.

    Rate and proportionality are important in discussing crime. It’s just when you deliberately leave certain factors out of the equation, you’re essentially being non-objective and leaving the problem unsolved. Crime in this country may be mostly black, but almost doesn’t count. You’ve got to take everything (and everyone) into consideration.

    Sure, Arabs attacked us on September 11, 2001. But from a mathematical standpoint, what is the probability of another 9/11 occurring in this country again?

    Oh, and the only reason why they attacked us was because we attacked them first. Payback’s a b***ch!

    • skara_brae

      America never attacked Saudi Arabia old chap.

    • libertarian1234

      “Rate and proportionality are important in discussing crime. It’s just when you deliberately leave certain factors out of the equation, you’re essentially being non-objective and leaving the problem unsolved.”

      What factors have been left out? 

      I mean, if you agree….which you have done….that blacks commit a disproportionate number of crimes,  and the subject is complaints about too many black crimes what factors are being left out? 

      “Crime in this country may be mostly black, but almost doesn’t count. You’ve got to take everything (and everyone) into consideration.”

      You see what I mean when I pointed out you don’t make sense?

      If you agree that crime is mostly black,  how on earth does it logically follow that it “almost doesn’t count?” 

      “Sure, Arabs attacked us on September 11, 2001. But from a mathematical standpoint, what is the probability of another 9/11 occurring in this country again?”

      This country’s borders are wide open.  A circus with elephants could cross the southern border, playing Mariachi music and could enter undetected.

      Obviously sleeper cells are here right now. The only thing stopping terrorist attacks from Muslim jihadists is their unwillingness to declare themselves right now.

      If an attack on Iran is made, that will changein this country, as will attacks on many other targets in Europe. 

    • kminta

      Skara,

      Decades of American-supported, American tax dollar-funded abuse of the Palestinians by the Israeli government, as well as a corrupt US foreign policy that’s given a green light on the general mistreatment of Muslims in their own lands, was what culminated in the nearly three thousand lives lost on 9/11. Osama bin Laden may be dead, but his followers will never stop trying to harm us until we stop supporting those who harm them. Like I said, September 11 was a long time coming.

      Contrary to what’s being shown and told on CNN, the majority of the world views the United States with disdain due to our intrusive ways and allowing our government to be controlled by an foreign entity that really doesn’t have the American people’s best interests at heart and is, at worst, doing things detrimental to their country.

      In the words of Britney Spears, “Oops, I did it again!” I’ve violated this websites’ sacred rule of no criticizing the Jews. Heaven forbid, you don’t want to get on THOSE peoples’ bad side.

  • Up to my neck in CA

    They excel at death and destruction.
    17-year-old son of her good friend pleaded guilty Monday in the murder and sexual abuse of her 13-month-old daughterRead more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-09-10/story/jacksonville-teen-pleads-guilty-13-month-olds-murder-sexual-abuse#ixzz26TDW0gV7

  • kminta

    Tom, 

    I’m referring to the generation gap in crime rates some six decades ago compared to now. Nowadays, black criminality is more apparent than crimes committed by whites. But was that a fact half a century ago? The answer is no. And even if it were, most blacks victimize their own rather than a non-black.

    Intra-racial crime has been, currently is, the number one form of crime in this country. What I’m observing on this website is preference for discussing interracial crime when, in fact, same race crime remains higher, as crime stats clearly show. 

    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

    Hence, you can plainly see that criminal offenses still occur within one’s own race.

    • libertarian1234

      “Hence, you can plainly see that criminal offenses still occur within one’s own race.”

      So what?

      That doesn’t change the fact one iota that one of the main threats against the white population today is black on white crime, involving murders, beatings, rapes, assaults, robberies and  mob attacks, and that all of it involves a one sided, black on white racial war being conducted by blacks.

      You’re too dense to see that white on white crime doesn’t pose the same threat no matter how many times it is pointed out to you.

      This one-sided racial war….to the great consternation of blacks…..is going to erupt into a two sided racial war, and it will come about when critical mass is reached due to an imploding economy mostly, but it could come about for many other reasons.

      And it will totally decimate the black population in this country.

      • kminta

        “So what”, you say?

        Didn’t you at least try to click onto my link and review the stats on crime and race? I’m guessing not because I’m looking at crime overall and you’re stuck in the “black-on-white” mindset. Don’t white-on-white crime victims deserve your compassion, too?

        You claim that there’s a difference between interracial crime and intra-racial crime? Maybe I am too dense, but if frequency and likelihood are the key ingredients here, then where do Asians, Arabs, Indians fit into the equation? Are they not races of people, too? Please stop focusing so much on blacks and take others into consideration in your analysis of race and crime.

        And until interracial crime becomes more prevalent than intra-racial crime in the country, I’d be more concerned with the whites you typically socialize with than the nonwhites who you don’t, if I were you.

  • kminta

    No, Gerry! Two of the most horrendous crimes in American history was the Oklahoma City Bombing that claimed 168 lives and 9/11 that took the lives nearly 3,000. 

    Not to belittle the atrocities perpetuated against the white victims of Wichita Massacre and the Christian Newsom murders (and I believe that justice was served in both those cases), but intra-racial crime is still up there in overall criminality. Do your research!

    • libertarian1234

      “No, Gerry! Two of the most horrendous crimes in American history was the Oklahoma City Bombing that claimed 168 lives and 9/11 that took the lives nearly 3,000.”

      Let’s see, you’re giving parity to two crimes which were instigated on the basis of politics in comparison to murderous atrocities committed by blacks against whites which involved black on white racial hatred, eh?  

      And, you can’t understand the differences either, right?

      LOL!!!

      • kminta

        Oh, I see the difference, and that’s motive, correct? I also see the difference in terms of the lost of life. The Wichita Massacre and the Christian Newsom atrocity: a mere 5 to 10 lives lost. September 11 and the Oklahoma City Bombing: 100s to 1,000s of lives lost. 

        I’m no mathematician, but if you compare and contrast the lost of white lives here…well, draw your own conclusions.

        • libertarian1234

          “Oh, I see the difference, and that’s motive, correct?”

          No, sorry, but you DON’T see the difference.

          And the reason you don’t is because you can’t think logically.

          It’s not your fault.  You were born that way.

      • kminta

        Motive, shmotive. The reason behind a crime does little ease the suffering of the victim and their loves, nor does it undo the fact that a crime took place. When a woman is raped, do you think that she really cares what motivated her rapist? The answer is no! All she cares for is that justice in her case be served and the bastard gets his. 

        I suppose the motive behind the dragging death of James Byrd, Jr. in Texas some years back could have been race; or the savage slaying of a gay man not too long ago could have been due to homophobia. Will understanding the motive behind each of these horrific crimes bring these two victims back to life? Legislating dark thoughts and impulses is what brought us “hate crime” laws, and do you really want our government telling you what to feel and think?

        Try to understand this: the reason behind a crime does nothing to alter the fact that a crime took place, Lib. The damage is done. Punishment is the only relevant response to any and all criminal offenses. The “why” behind a crime is secondary and is best left up for a criminal psychologist to decipher.

    • Puggg

      9/11 was pulled by non-white Muslims, and the book on OKC isn’t written yet.

      • kminta

        And the 168 people in Oklahoma City and the nearly three thousand on 9/11 are all still very much dead. And your point is….

        • Puggg

          …that all the white people killed at the hands of black and other non-white crime are just as dead, except they might as well not have ever existed but for AR and a few other webpages, and you seem to have problems with us bringing it up.

        • kminta

          Puggg,

          No, what I have a problem with is that you can’t seem to recognize the moral equivalency in the lost of white life in All criminal cases. 

          I know that you just don’t see it, but intra-racial crime is just as heinous as  interracial crime. If you believe otherwise, please explain to me your position with a rational response. I’ll be waiting.

        • Puggg

          I’m going to try this one more time.

          People are naturally tribal.  (I only wish white people were more overtly tribal.)  It is true that when white people are victims of violent crime, white people are the perpetrators.  It is also true that when black people are the victims of violent crime, black people are almost always the doers.

          But we all get more indignant when someone from the ingroup is victimized by someone from an outgroup.

        • kminta

          Puggg,

          Indeed, human beings are, by nature, tribal. But does that make it okay to be any less outraged by intra-racial crime? Moral equivalency is something that you seem to reject for some reason. Too bad!

          In addition, over tribalism, the one that blinds one’s otherwise sense of fair play and justice, is something that I find to be an unfortunate faucet of human nature. It’s this over tribalism that’s exhibited by racialist whites and blacks that leaves them prey to bias; truth and reality be damned. Tribalism may be natural, but not necessarily right if one strives for objectivity.

          Even though one is not like myself, I think that it’s only right and Godly to extend a friendly handshake to that individual. Too “brotherhood-ish” for your taste, but being fair and moral brings one closer to God, don’t you agree?

        • Puggg

           kminta

          Let’s continue this conversation in a new hierarchy, scroll down.

  • kminta

    Isiah14 wrote, 

    “There’s no such thing as white on white crime.”

    I’m pretty certain that William Petit, whose wife and two daughters were viciously slaughtered by two white criminals, would beg to differ; as would the parents of Adam Walsh, Megan Kanka and Polly Klaas, I imagine.

    • Richard Allen Davis, murderer of Polly Klaas, may have a “White” name, but is clearly not
      white. Look at any picture. He is clearly of Latino background.

  • kminta

    Just as I’m sure that Timothy McVeigh would become the American equivalent of Osama Bin Laden.

  • kminta

    You’re correct when you say that “more often doesn’t equal more likely”.  But let’s exclude blacks for a moment here. What’s the probability that an Asian would harm a white? How does “a preference for one’s own” help the white person in this instance?

    Obviously, probability and rate come into play in terms of race and crime. But what is probability that same race crime will occur more often than interracial crime? You do the math!

  • Barrack Osama

     Gotta love these trolls man.

  • kminta

    Giving credit when credit is due, I have no problem with. But both your ego and vanity are getting the best of you when you assert that blacks and other nonwhites should kneel before “the great white race” and worship your lot like Gods, which you are anything but.

    Arrogance is an annoying human trait, indeed.

    I see nothing inherently wrong with a self-pat on the back for achieving something. But there is such a thing as overdoing it. When one’s ego grows bigger than the Moon, it’s time to come back down to Earth and be reminded of your human limitations. 

    So to that end, thank you, white people — for creating most of the things that make this country great. But, mind you, that doesn’t mean that you folks should push. Humility is something whites like yourself should try sometime.

  • kminta

    “In any case, despite their lower violoent crime rate, I take my chances and will live around other whites.”

    That’s your right and best of luck to you. But should you ever find yourself with in a deserted parking lot, with a white and an Asian nearby, just remember what you read in Jared Taylor’s book, “The Color of Crime.”

    Perhaps I do have a brain anomaly. If so, then more people should hope to develop one if my above average intellect is any positive indicator. And unless your general IQ is equal to mine or higher, then at the risk of sounding too boastful…no, you really can’t compete with me intellectually.

  • libertarian1234

     “You owe everything you have and practice (like the computer technology you are now using to mock and insult us) to the genius of whites, and you know it.”

    Good point,  Bantu.

    I just might add that,  if he has undergraduate certification,  he can also thank whites for the AA admission policies and grading in force right now, because he couldn’t have earned legimiate certification on his own merit.

    “Humility is something whites like yourself should try sometime.”

    LOL!

    Can you believe it?

    He’s practically broken both arms patting himself on the back, and he has the delusional gall to claim somebody else lacks humility.

    A well-educated poster on here once said that arguing with blacks is like wrestling jello.

    He had it right on.

  • 5n4k33y3s

    Yeah, it’s an anti-white racial vendetta too. The point is, the solution is not for totalitarianism to triumph over individualism. Totalitarianism is the crutch of the anti-white Feminists, and the anti-white, multicultural alliance, and “Affirmative Action” proponents.

    All we have to do is defend freedom in general, and stop the transgressions against freedom which are aimed at white men in particular, and within the free society, we will thrive. They’re the freedom squelchers, not us.

  • sarah stein

     Stupid women die, smart women live on to produce smart children.  It’s a good thing.

  • SLCain

    For my part I’m no longer interesting in answering kminta, nor bothering with his blatant dissembling and deceit (as in claiming that we all think that all black people are dangerous or criminal, a mischaracterization that virtually nobody who routinely posts here believes).   I wasn’t really addressing him anyway, but rather wrote in order to make my point to newcomers to this website.  I’ve completely tuned out the criticisms of black people like him.  They have nothing to teach us, and nothing to offer to a conversation which is really ours and ours alone.  As I said, a lot of us no longer care what they think.

    • kminta

      Oh, come on! Don’t you think that it’s refreshing to have someone who’s offering a different perspective to the conversation of race? (At least on this web forum?)

      Please forgive this outsider for intruding on this exclusive “whites only” club. But doesn’t playing the same old song get tiresome eventually? Doesn’t reporting interracial crime, nonwhite general misbehavior and overall racial differences nonstop, 24/7 get boring at some point? Besides, I just thought that this “cyber segregation” could use someone who, even though is of different skin color and doesn’t entirely share your beliefs, is nonetheless committed to a genuinely civil, honest and OBJECTIVE dialogue on race.

      You don’t care what we blacks think? Well, a lot of us blacks are indifferent to your collective opinion of us, either. To each his own.

    • libertarian1234

      Well, I have to agree that your assessment of blacks on here is right, but I think it’s necessary to respond at least in part to the nonsense they spew if for no reason other than as a record of sorts.

      The more this character on here writes, the sillier he sounds and forcing him to expand on what he means trips him over even more into the absurd for everybody to see.

      Get a load of his response to you.

      “I just thought that this “cyber segregation” could use someone who, even though is of different skin color and doesn’t entirely share your beliefs, is nonetheless committed to a genuinely civil, honest and OBJECTIVE dialogue on race.”

      That he has had multiple posts deleted because he resorted to purely insults and name-calling seems to be somerthing that’s lost on him when he declares his desire is only for “civil, honest, objective dialogue” on race.

      If he’s drawn out on a subject not concerned with race I can guarantee his response will sound as if it’s coming from the third grade. 

  • kminta

    You read Internet blogs, PC? Not the most reliable resource for objective intelligence testing, don’t you think?

    Your IQ is 137, huh?!? Judging by the grammatical errors I’m reading in your post, I have a hard time believing that. While my intellectual quotient isn’t as high as “yours”, I’m quite content that general intelligence is within the superior range. 

    For what it’s worth, I scored a 1400 on my SAT score. That, coupled with the fact that NYU had no AA at the time I originally applied, means that this black person got in and earned his degree on his own; hard as that is for you to believe.

    So what college/university did you graduate from? Or did you even go to college at all?

  •  http://www.zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=44870

    Sandusky, OH is mostly a white prole city of 43,000.  79% White.  15% Black. 2% hispanic.  Just 14% completed a Bachelors degree or higher.  Median income is just $36,000.

    The victim has a 3-year old and an 18-month old.  So w/i 18 mos. of the birth of her daughter, it appears that she was already estranged from the father.

  • Puggg

    kminta wrote


    Indeed, human beings are, by nature, tribal. But does that make it
    okay to be any less outraged by intra-racial crime? Moral equivalency is
    something that you seem to reject for some reason. Too bad!

    In addition, over tribalism, the one that blinds one’s otherwise
    sense of fair play and justice, is something that I find to be an
    unfortunate faucet of human nature. It’s this over tribalism that’s
    exhibited by racialist whites and blacks that leaves them prey to bias;
    truth and reality be damned. Tribalism may be natural, but not
    necessarily right if one strives for objectivity.

    Even though one is not like myself, I think that it’s only right and
    Godly to extend a friendly handshake to that individual. Too
    “brotherhood-ish” for your taste, but being fair and moral brings one
    closer to God, don’t you agree?

    I’m not making a moral case on whether this is right or wrong, I’m making an observation about reality.  Back in the settlement of the west days, if Caleb murdered Jebediah within the fort over a bottle of whiskey, it would be a footnote at best in history.  But if the Indians come over the wall and kill Jebediah, then people hundreds of  years later will still be reading about it.  Like you keep saying, Jebediah is just as dead either way, but that ultimately doesn’t matter in the reality of human tribalism.

    As for tribalism “blinding one’s otherwise sense of fair play and justice,” of course it does.  But I contend that the smarter the individual or the ingroup, the less that will be a problem.

    As far as “God,” well, you’re opening up a can of worms.

    • kminta

      Well, at the risk of our conversation becoming one about philosophy, perhaps you should start looking at human tribalism from a moral standpoint. Morality is an intricate part of human nature, I believe. And I’m sure you’ll agree that one’s observation of physical reality ought to be as objective as humanly possible, and not be distorted by one’s subjective nature.

      Your example of Native Americans  and early American settlers of the Western days, unfortunately, illustrates how human tribalism, like most aspects of human nature, has its drawbacks. (That is, if you consider them to be drawbacks.) I agree with you when you say that whether human tribalism is right or wrong is beside the point; it is what it is. 

      But since we humans are at the top of the evolutionary ladder here, don’t you think that our collective morality be as advanced as well? Shouldn’t we, as sentient beings, make a conscious effort to regulate in certain aspects of our nature, including our tribal nature, if we are to succeed in separating the evil from the good, or what one defines as decent from the reprehensible?

      “As for tribalism “blinding one’s otherwise sense of fair play and justice,” of course it does.  But I contend that the smarter the individual or the ingroup, the less that will be a problem. ”

      I hope you’re right on that one.

      Indeed, I’m venturing into uncharted and potentially dangerous territory in my mention of God. But if you’re of the Christian faith like I am, God plays a pivotal role in all things.

  • The big story to me here is the feckless police.  The family friend calls the police, and they treat him like he is some sort of meddler and try to rush him off the phone.  The police dispatcher says: “We just did her, we just checked on her, not that long ago.”   

    I’m surprised they didn’t arrest the family friend for trespass, and ignore the three bodies under the mattress.

    You get the impression that this family friend was interrupting donut time.  Big time.

    watch the video at :45

    To preserve and protect.  Yeah right.

  • I am over 40 years old.  23-year-old women look at me  like I’m some sort of sex offender if I even say good morning to them to them in a grocery store aisle.  And I’m white.  Why is this 23-year-old blonde beauty even giving the time of day to a black man in his 40s?  Let alone being a three-month “acquaintance”?  Let alone the fact that he’s an ex-con for manslaughter and sex offenses?  Where is her father and her brothers to tell her, “You see him one more time and we will strangle you!”?

  • This young mom learned a hard, fatal lesson about “multiculturalism”. So sad.

  • I don’t think kminta will EVER get it. It doesn’t have the brains that nature gave the Cape buffalo (Syncerus cafer).

  • libertarian1234

    To Kminta:
     
    “Still talking about blacks and nothing else, I see. Why such a
    vested interests in us, Lib?”

    Because blacks are at war with whites and they need close
    scrutiny. At some point we will have civil war. Until then, we must unite and
    inform one another of the latest black on white outrages. 
     
    “And why no mention of those other pesky racial groups like Arabs,
    Indians and Asians? Let me guess: your favorite color is “black”,
    right?”

    No other group but blacks create so much havoc, trouble and danger
    to whites as blacks do. And all of them outperform blacks and are more
    intelligent as a group.
    “The fact that you’ve never been the victim of black-on-white
    crime only weakens your position here; whereas I, back in college, was once
    called “n***er” to my face and beaten up by a group of white gang-bangers. I was
    hospitalized and had stitches in my forehead for month. (And, by the way, even
    though the police caught the thugs who did that to me, it was never documented
    “hate crime” and never prosecuted.)” If there are such a thing as “white gang-bangers” nobody but
    you has heard of them. Your story more likely than not is false, but even if
    it wasn’t, citing one incident to justify countless black on white attacks that
    occur in the thousands every year doesn’t diminish the fact that blacks, in
    general, hate whites and attack them out of a rage that is based in their own
    failure to compete and succeed as a group, and it all amounts to a one-sided
    racial war against whites. “If you ever become the victim of a malicious beat down by a
    different racial group like I was, please e-mail me and tell me all about it. In
    the meantime, if you haven’t been there as I have, please don’t pretend like you
    know how a crime victim feels.”
    It doesn’t take a personal attack to understand the dangers posed
    from blacks to family, friends and neighbors. We see and read thousands
    of vicious assaults, murders, and maimings every the year on white people for
    no reason other than pure, unadulterated black on white hatred. Monitoring the
    situation and maintaining a good supply of arms and ammo will allow us to be prepared when
     the situation reaches critical mass. “You see, Lib, unlike you, I have been the victim of racial bias.
    And, unlike you, I don’t use that as a justification for berating and putting
    down other groups just to make myself feel good. I believe in looking for the
    good and evil in ALL PEOPLE because that’s what being objective is all
    about.”
    Every once in a while you come across with such claims ironically
    after you spew a long tirade of bias and hatred against whites. Putting the
    above statement side by side with your other rants that reveal just the opposite
    might show you the nonsense of what you write, but I doubt it would do any
    good. Like most blacks, you have an arrogant self-image of
    yourself, oblivious to your easy to see intellectual shortcomings, and you have
    some delusion that you are superior to everyone else, which is apparent in many
    ways. For example, how did you end one long lecture to us? “Class dismissed!”
    wasn’t it? “White folks really neither care nor like blacks, you say? Well on
    behalf of the black race, I declare that I honest don’t give a rat’s a– about
    the opinion whites generally have for blacks or me as an individual.”
    Then why are you here? Is it to “teach” us in one of your
    lectures because you are superior or is it because you’re arrogance has reached
    a point where you believe you can convert everybody’s thinking  to what you want
    them to believe?  “And by whose standards do you declare blacks inferior?
    Yours?”
    Blacks throughout the world reveal in test after test they’re the
    least intelligent people on earth. And it isn’t just tests that are used as a
    measure. Black societies are still mostly just primitive affairs. They have
    lived a stone-age existence for five thousand years, never having invented a
    written language or even the wheel. Black run cities in this country also have
    gone to ruin due to black incompetence. “And from a Darwinian standpoint, blacks and other nonwhites are
    succeeding at a rate far greater than whites. With being only 8% of the world’s
    population and shrinking, whites like yourself had better start having offspring
    and fast.” 
    Outbreeding doesn’t constitute success, if the breeders are too
    dumb to form a workable society. In fact too much breeding reduces resources
    to levels that will not sustain a population and result in large scale deaths,
    from everything to internecine warfare to starvation to out-of-control
    diseases. One look at Haiti will tell you what breeding has done for
    them.”Interracial crime versus Intra-racial crime: which is worse?”

    Black/white crimes, black/Asian crimes, black/Hispanic crimes, are
    far worse. First of all, percentage wise, there are more of them, increasing
    the chance of being a victim. Secondly they involve hatred as a basis for
    motive. Black crime on non-blacks is FAR more vicious than crimes perpetrated
    by people within a particular group. Specifically, very, very few white on
    white crimes reach the level of evil and viciousness as black on white crime.
    The above article is typical as an example. Anything similar would be quite
    rare as white on white, but very common as black on white. Many times black on
    white beatings, rapes and murders involve unspeakable torture.”Criticism of blacks from other racial groups, I don’t mind; so
    long as it’s constructive, civil and sincere.”
    But criticism from whites is intolerable in any form, eh, but it’s
    o.k. for you to slime and denigrate us into oblivion, isn’t it?
    “What I won’t tolerate is being berated as stupid, incompetent and
    worthless, as clearly evident in your continuous hostile rants towards me. If
    you can’t respond to my comments like a civilized person, as mandated by
    policies established here on AR, then do yourself a favor and grow up and stop
    being such a cry baby.”
    But then it’s o.k. for you to do that to us, isn’t it, lecturing
    us as if you are the black ruler of the universe and we are your minions? And
    when you’re finished it is, “Class dismissed!” You are responded to in the same
    manner you deal out your abuse, but you can’t take it, and some of your
    responses are so vile they need to be deleted. You refer to them as a “beat
    down,” like mobs of blacks do to whites thousands of times every year. The
    only time you exhibit any kind of reasonable behavior is when you are hammered
    into an untenable position where your insults, baseless accusations, and
    illogical assertions are rendered null and void.”I don’t know about you, Lib, but I’m getting bored with this futile exchange of
    written warfare.”
    You’re not getting bored. You’re getting frustrated because you
    haven’t been able to insult or intimidate anybody into accepting what you say,
    and you can’t adequately respond to the rebuttals you receive.
    And, don’t forget, blacks are involved in a one-sided racial war
    of hatred against whites. That in itself makes it far, far worse.

    • kminta

      Lib,

      So your post above was your last commentary towards me? Good, because I’m getting sick and tired of essentially repeating myself over and over again about pointing out your bias about black-on-white crime, while ignoring equally reprehensible criminal offense.

      Does your rant about black-on-white crime include all blacks because, contrary to what you believe, most blacks not are filled with racist hatred for whites. Sure, some blacks may victimize whites, but an even greater number of blacks victimize their own. (Not that you care about that.) And I’m going to say this for the very last time: so long as intra-racial crime remains more prevalent than interracial crime, that, to me, is far, far worse.

      You believe that black-0n-white crime is proof that blacks are waging a war against whites? You do know that conspiracy theories are for people without nothing to lose, right? Since you’ve never been the victim of different-race violence, you really haven’t been there like I have; and until you have been there on a personal basis, you really can’t contribute to this part of our conversation, don’t you think?

      Oh, and if I’m lying about my personal story of white-on-black crime, I’ll gladly e-mail you a picture of the the scare I still have on my forehead as proof that it happened. And FWIW, I’m in no way attempting to justify black-on-white violence just because I suffered a bad experience. Unlike you, I don’t harbor disdain for a whole group of people simply because of one terrible incident.

      So your comments towards me calling me and my fellow blacks unintelligent weren’t insulting remarks? Just remember, you started this written warfare when you began referring to me as inferior without even knowing me, and you expect me to just turn the other cheek? All I did was point out the possibility that American Renaissance is not being objective in its crime reporting by deliberately ignoring other atrocious criminal acts — mainly white-on-white. At least most of the posters here were civil enough to respond to me in a non-hostile manner. What about you?

      Your bias sympathy for black-on-white crime victims while disregarding white-on-white crime victims just demonstrates your prejudice. (Not that you care about that, either.) I honestly did my best to be civil with you. But your animosity for blacks like myself without judging me as an individual clearly makes you the true definition of a bigot — harboring non-objective views of others with knowing them on an individual basis.

      Your disdain for blacks like myself without knowing us on an individual and personal level leaves no room for looking at us objectively. True, certain stereotypes may hold some truth to them. But that doesn’t mean that people should not be judged individually. If you believe in fairness and equal rights (which I’m assuming you don’t), then you’d see that people that there’s good and bad in ALL people; Asians, Arabs, Indians, and, yes even blacks; and that it’s important to make a distinction between the two.

      I’m frustrated that I haven’t changed the collective thought process of the posters here? Well, you might be right about that. I thought that the folks her at AR were open-minded people who would tolerate those like myself with contradictory views on race. But the intolerance I’ve generally observed here when I suggested that AR was basically doing the same thing as our liberal media just demonstrates the hypocrisy I’m seeing here. I would think that “race-realist” like yourselves would be as objective as possible on the matter of race. To my disappointment, that hasn’t been the case here.

      So like I said, this is my last commentary towards you, Lib. I hope that we can depart on good terms, but I don’t think that’s likely. Enjoy the rest of your life!

      • libertarian1234

        Well, if you think I’m going to sign off while you continue your denigrations, better think again.

        “You believe that black-0n-white crime is proof that blacks are waging a war against whites? You do know that conspiracy theories are for people without nothing to lose, right?”

        “Conspiracy theories?”   Only an idiot would call black on white crime a conspiracy theory in the face of so much overwhelming evidence….AND PROOF.  Did you take a trip through the forums to take note of white rage on racial issues?  Is everybody a conspirator?  Even the writers below?

        http://tinyurl.com/9zpa2fa
        violentflashmobs.com/
        http://tinyurl.com/9eryhnu

        When whites rise up and take arms in defense against blacks in a civil war, will you understand that as a conspiracy theory too.

        “I thought that the folks her at AR were open-minded people who would tolerate those like myself with contradictory views on race.”

        Your ignorant idea of open-mindedness amounts to nothing more than people accepting what you say, in spite of the fact what you have to say is stupid, erroneous and sounds as if it came from the mind of a child.

         “True, certain stereotypes may hold some truth to them. But that doesn’t mean that people should not be judged individually.”

        You HAVE been judged as an individual.    That’s why you have been told that you can put a few words together, but it is really obvious you’re pretty dim-witted

        Also, no one has judged blacks individually on here.  As a group they’re disgusting and MOST ALL white people don’t like them, not just the ones on here.  You must accept that as the truth instead of continuing to delude yourself.

        Too, it’s not just whites who dislike blacks.  Every other race and ethnicity…generally… can’t stand them either.  You have to accept that as fact.

        • kminta

          I thought that this was your last commentary directed at me, Lib. Shows what a liar you are.

          “‘Conspiracy theories?”   Only an idiot would call black on white crime a conspiracy theory in the face of so much overwhelming evidence….AND PROOF.  Did you take a trip through the forums to take note of white rage on racial issues?  Is everybody a conspirator?  Even the writers below?http://tinyurl.com/9zpa2fa
          violentflashmobs.com/
          http://tinyurl.com/9eryhnu‘”Interestingly, all three of the article links you’ve posted were written by second-rate, white racist hacks with an unhealthy obsession with attributing everything crime-related to blacks and other nonwhites, while willfully disregarding the FAR MORE FREQUENT intra-racial crime that occurs in this country. Let’s observe the facts, shall we?From https://www.ncjrs.gov/app/Search/Abstracts.aspx?id=163440Abstract: “The chapter compares household and personal victimization rates for racial minorities and whites; compares offending rates for racial minorities and whites, juveniles as well as adults; presents statistics to document the fact that crime is an intraracial rather than an interracial event; and discusses ethnic youth gangs and their role in crime in the United States. Data presented in this chapter reveal that African Americans and Hispanics are more likely than whites and non-Hispanics to be victims of household and personal crimes. The racial differences are particularly striking for violent crimes, especially robbery.”From https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=236533Abstract: “Overall, the study findings are consistent with J.R. Blau and Blau’s (1982) relative deprivation thesis, which holds that increases in economic inequality, particularly race-based inequality result in increased crime by Blacks. Secondary support was provided for P.M Blau’s (1977) macrostructural theory of intergroup relations, which predicts that increases in race-based inequality produces less interracial crime. Cities with large income disparities between Whites and Blacks had higher rates of violent crime, controlling for other factors. The White-on-Black crime rate tended to be lower in cities with lower levels of residential segregation. When cities experienced greater disadvantage, the White-on-Black crime rate was magnified. Cities with a large population and a large Black population had higher rates of White-on-Black crime. The White-on-White crime rate was likely to be higher in cities with a small Black population. As the percentage of Blacks in the population increased, the Black-on-White crime rate decreased. In cities where White-to-Black economic inequality was pronounced, Blacks were much more likely to be victimized by other Blacks, holding constant other factors. The Black-on-Black crime rate was not higher in cities with high levels of Black-to-Black economic inequality. Data for this study were obtained from the NIBRS and the census for 91 cities in 15 States for the year 2000. The sample included only cities of at least 25,000 people and a Black population of at least 2,000 people. 3 tables, 10 notes, and 43 references.”From http://www.jedreport.com/2008/03/debunking-buc-3.htmlSnip: “First, while it is true that murder offenders are disproportionately black, it is also true that murder victims are disproportionately black. It is an undisputed fact that if avoiding murder is your number one goal, you are far better off being white in America than being black.
          Second, if you look at stranger-on-stranger murder, it does turn out that there are a little more than 3 times as many whites killed by blacks are there are blacks killed by whites. Now, Pat Buchanan would see this as racism, but let’s step back for a second.
          Assume for a moment that the distribution by race of murder offenders were to remain constant, that is, assume that a little over half of all murders are committed by whites and a little less than that by blacks. (Again, whites includes white Hispanics.)
          If you do the math, in a color-blind society, about 37% of all murder victims would be whites killed by blacks. Why? Because there so many more whites than blacks! Simple math. The reality is however that in stranger-on-stranger murder, just 17% are whites killed by blacks and overall just 9% are. In other words, the murder victimization rate of whites by blacks is far lower than you’d expect”
          Snip: “In 2005, the homicide offending rate for black men aged 18-24 was 203.3 per 100,000. For white men of the same age it was 22.4. In other words, black men of that age group were 9 times more likely to be murderers (or at least convicted of murder) than white men. (This is somewhat complicated by the fact that more black men are involved in multiple offender single victim murders, but I that will only serve to strengthen the point I’m making.)
          What this means is that if you are walking down the street, and you see a white man of that age group, there is only a 0.18% greater chance that he is not a murderer. And even if he is, he’s still probably not going to murder you — most murder victims know the person who killed them.
          Indeed, if you happen to be a white non-Hispanic man, you are fare more likely to be murdered by yourself (i.e., commit suicide) than by a black man. The suicide victimization rate amongst white men is about 22 per 100,000. The homicide victimization rate is about 4 per 100,000, and maybe about 1 of those are committed by blacks. So simply put, if you’re a white man like Pat Buchanan freaking out about black men trying to kill you, you should be aware that you are 22 more times likely to be killed yourself than to be killed by a black man. And I’ll bet if you worried a little less about getting murdered, you ‘d be less likely to harm yourself.”So you see, Lib, whites are far more likely to victimized by their own than by a black. The objective research above shows that to be irrefutable. So why so obsessed with interracial crime?”Your ignorant idea of open-mindedness amounts to nothing more than people accepting what you say, in spite of the fact what you have to say is stupid, erroneous and sounds as if it came from the mind of a child. “”You HAVE been judged as an individual.    That’s why you have been told that you can put a few words together, but it is really obvious you’re pretty dim-witted.”And you call these civil remarks? Such hostility for no apparent reason. You judge me as merely a member of a group and not knowing me on individual level. No objectivity at all. It seems that I’ve opened the flood gates of Hell when I insinuated that AR and our general media are one in the same with its reporting on only certain types of crime. Blacks are repulsive to most whites, you say? Since when did the opinion of whites matter to other races? Most Native Americans, for example, have no opinion either way about blacks. But they absolutely hate whites, as an American Indian friend of mine will attest. And even if your sentiments are shared by other racial groups, you should know right now that they too aren’t exactly fans of whites either, as many of my nonwhite friends will confirm. So if you think that whites are God’s gift to world, we nonwhites beg to differ.

          • libertarian1234

            “Interestingly, all three of the article links you’ve posted were written by second-rate, white racist hacks with an unhealthy obsession with attributing everything crime-related to blacks and other nonwhites, ”

            They’re 100% factual and  you know it. 

            You are lying about them as you do about many other things here, because you have to lie in order to support your ludicrous claims attempting to resove blacks of any of their many pathologies. 

            Without lies, you have to resort to making ludicrous assertions that make no sense.  Lying is your crutch.  It is your way of circumventing the fact that blacks pose a very great threat, not only to whites but to every other group in the country as well.

            That you fail to understand that black racial crimes are serious incidents that must be monitored by whites and other groups, doesn’t have anything to do with any issue you’ve raised.

            Your premise regarding inter and intra crimes has nothing to do with the threat of black crime, nor does it have any bearing on another real threat which is that contentious racial crimes by blacks will eventually result in civil war.

          • libertarian1234

            “And you call these civil remarks? Such hostility for no apparent reason.

            “No apparent reason at all?”

            After you begin your post with, “I thought that this was your last commentary directed at me, Lib. Shows what a liar you are.”

            Or, how about, the three posts you had deleted, because they were no more than vituperous insults for the purpose of denigration with no merit at all?   mmmm?

            Or how about these in response to simple facts and figures I offerred?

            “If that is not one
            of the most idiotic, semi-retarded responses I’ve had the misfortune to read in
            quite a while. ”

            “Still trying to avoid me responding to your post, I
            see!”

            “Hey, looks who’s returned for another written beat
            down.”

            “Some people are just a glutton for
            punishment”

            You have went from one end of this board to the other with insults, arrogant claims and assertions…toward many people…. that have no basis in fact, then when you get hammered and you run out of insults that will be posted… and lies…. you resort to pretending as if you and the Pope are one and the same.

            The bottom line is that you’re a whiner like most blacks.  It bothers you that nobody accepts your preposterous assertions regarding intra-racial crimes which aren’t even relevant, but you have an insane fixation with them, because you so desperately want to flim flam somebody into minimizing black on white attacks, for the sole purpose of placing black murders and assaults in a better light.

            I could get into statistics of black/white crime, but it’s a worthless pursuit since it has no bearing on black crime against non-whites in this country, which has reached epidemic proportions, and will likely lead to armed racial conflict on a grand scale.

            Nothing you can say will change that.

            You’re spinning your wheels, little man.

  • More white children sacrificed upon the altar of the cult  of diversity. Does anyone have statistics as to how many whites, on average,  are murdered by blacks on a yearly basis? 

    • libertarian1234

      Yes, Armando.

      The study done by Amren, The Color of Crime, has some pretty good info on all aspects of crime.  You can access it from this site.  There should be a link here to click on to.

  • 000asdf000

    Around blacks, never relax. This isn’t surprising at all. Like a monkey, the black man is incapable of controlling his anger and violent actions can be triggered by the even the most mundane of reasons or even no reason at all.

    I don’t know why liberals seem to think black “people” should be treated as equals when time and again they prove they’re completely incapable of living within our society as normal, law-abiding citizens.

    She was probably one of those liberals who thought she was being a good person and a true progressive by being friends with an oppressed African-American. Only in the final moments of her life did she realize her mistake.

  • Everyone should watch that video.  That is incredible.  
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkJIoklvRog