Record Low Number of Babies Born in Japan

Los Angeles Times, August 11, 2012

Fewer babies were born in Japan in the last year than any other on record, pulling down its population for the third year in a row, according to government statistics released this week.

As of the end of March, Japan had more than 260,000 fewer people than a year earlier, the biggest drop of the Japanese population yet, according to Japanese media.

The baby bust has continued year after year despite Japanese efforts to nudge up the numbers: The government has doled out payments for couples with children and subsidized daycare. Japanese towns publicly herald the number of local births in city signs. Engineering students even crafted a cooing robotic baby years ago in hope of setting biological clocks ticking.

Taking a more pointed tack, one professor recently created an online clock that ominously counts down until Japan has no children left—a doomsday estimated to roll around in 3012.

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The Japanese are well aware of the problem, but birthrates continue to hover under 1.4 children per woman, far below the 2.1 needed to replace one generation with the next, said Noriko Tsuya, a Keio University statistician who leads a government committee on population. The number of marriages have dropped, and bearing children out of wedlock is rare, Tsuya said.

Experts say women forced to choose between child and career in Japanese companies have increasingly opted against babies. Despite government efforts to foster gender equality, Japanese women are still expected to shoulder chores at home, researchers have repeatedly noted. {snip}

Men seem to be losing interest in babymaking in the first place, with one government survey finding that more than a third of Japanese males ages 16 to 19 were uninterested in sex or even despised it; even more women said the same. The erosion of old guarantees of lifetime employment and the rise of temporary jobs are also damping the desire to start families.

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“The government is trying very hard but it’s very difficult to reverse this downward spiral of fertility,” Tsuya said. “What can you do? You’re not going to kill the healthy elderly. You’re not going to force people to have more kids. You could bring in people from the outside,  but Japan is not a country that brings in a lot of people from outside.”

Other countries with low birthrates have made up for their losses by welcoming immigrants, but Japan has been reluctant to do so. The big question, Traphagan said, is whether the shrinking population will push Japan to overcome that reluctance.

“It doesn’t seem like fertility is going to address the problem,” he said.

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  • Japan is an island with limited resources. They will be fine as soon as they reach a self-sustainable level of population. Virtually all the world’s problems can be traced to overpopulation. Especially when you have the low-IQ, unproductive dregs of society reproducing at will. The world would be a better place if populations contained more quality and less quantity than they do today..

    • Mahound

      Sure, but it’s hardly the low fertility Japanese that need to cut down on birth-giving.

    • libertarian1234

      Only Western elites are so foolish as to be taken in by the proposition that falling birth rates are a calamity which REQUIRES the importation of third world hordes.

      They are unable to see that FAR greater problems are caused by the importation of crime, poverty, lower overall intelligence, lack of assimilation, and massive discontent,  all of which cause so many problems of  a VERY serious nature falling birth rates are miniscule by comparison.  Too, these same elites seem to be totally unaware that we can no longer afford larger populations, because resources are being depleted so rapidly.

      In essence,  their fear of having a smaller population is greater than a civil war that will destroy the country or lack of food and water that will cause mass starvation.

      • Your comment about falling population not being a problem shows why greens are the enemy, every bit as hostile to white society-as-organism as are the multicult. (Contrast the above to Garrett Hardin’s belief that, in the absence of immigration, pronatalism is desirable. Or the Unabomber’s belief that ecologically minded people should *out-procreate* the world’s worst resource consumers who have a declining birth rate.)

        Its simple conservation biology that a population must ideally be stable, and for a modern first world country like ours (or Japan) that means a mean of three children per woman.There’s also the economic burden of aging populations to consider.

        • libertarian1234

          There is no economic burden if the system is adjustedto compensate for fluctuations.

          The class war between young and old was created by the people who want unchecked growth to satisfy their greed for power and money.

          It is a stuation that could easily be corrected. Far easier than bringing in third world hordes who bring the country down in many ways and cause a crisis of identity and eventual civil war.

          We will be forced at some point to return to a logical system. But we must first break apart in civil conflict in order to form a new nation, smaller, but stronger. 

          For those of you who advocate growth,let me ask you this:  At what point do you intend to stop growing, since we do not have infinite space and natural resources?

          And if we do not, what do you think the consequences will be?

          • Do you mean economic growth now?

            No, I don’t favour constant economic growth, the problem is people are too affluent in the west. Life History Theory predicts that dysgenic demographic trends are largely the result of longer life expectancies (ie the result of affluence).

    • This is nonsense, Japan is not overcrowded its just that people live in cramped conditions.

  • Global Minority

    And nobody calls the Japenese “racist” for not wanting to import millions of immgrants? Imagine that! It’s really simple if there birth rate is low, have more babies. It’s really not that hard. Or is this more elite propaganda? One wonders.

  • Haven’t the Japanese heard: that multiculturalism and diversity are a “strength?” Don’t they realize that third world browns can magically solve all their problems insofar as declining populations and “performing those jobs the Japanese do not want to do!” Don’t they know how “enriching and vibrant” diversity is, especially diversity who will refuse to assimilate and make all sorts of demands from the Japanese.
     
    What’s the matter Japan, why are you refusing to open up your borders to hordes of third-world diversity members, who will displace the native Japanese population in 20 years time?  Are you saying that you believe Japan should be reserved for the Japanese? That’s “racist!”

    • potato78

       Japanese, Chinese, and Koreanese are not “racists” because they have not imported those dark and black people into their society, yet or enough yet.  But once you imported those dark and black people into your society, however, you don’t treat them up well or not allow them to marry your daughter,  then you are definitely a racist.  Sorry.  LOL.

      • Anonymous

        That’s what people don’t get or don’t want to accept from white Southerners.  They can’t see why whites in the South were ‘racist’ and why they had segregation.  Even if there are whites who do realize blacks commit more crimes, they still foolishly think, “Well, they need more (fill in the blank) and maybe that will change things.”  How much money and feel-good programs have we thrown at them for 50 years now?  If that was supposed to help, why are black communities worse off today than they were then?

  • JackKrak

    How on earth did Japan manage to emerge from the ruins of two atomic bombs and build a highly developed first-rate economic power without the benefit of millions of Africans among them?

    Maybe they “stole” knowledge from Africa just like Europeans did centuries ago.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       Well actually, they had the help of the Marshall Plan after WW2 for rebuilding their country, but they also had a better time because they didn’t spend money on ANY military at all, the U.S. had and has bases there to protect them.  Even though they do have a military today, it is not much more than a minimal coast guard sort of organization.

      • Strider73

        Japan’s postwar constitution (imposed by the US) prohibits the military from doing anything other than defending the home islands. Imagine how much better off we would be if we could amend our constitution with that same prohibition. Instead, like ancient Rome, we squander blood and treasure on a bloated empire that impoverishes us more each day.

        Also, most Japanese would love to be rid of those US bases on their soil, as the blacks stationed there are the main source of crime.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           All very true, with these additions; the Japanese officially renounced war, and came to welcome the presence of the U.S., especially at the time of the Korean War.  Japan has expanded beyond that restriction and was asked to take part in the campaign in Afghanistan, but they decided that offensive war was not possible for them by choice and their own self-imposed oath as I mentioned. 

          Next, IF we can or do amend our constitution in any way, then all issues are up for possible modification, meaning some of your likely sacred cows would be opened to change and perhaps big change.  Best leave well enough alone as far as the Constitution goes.  The U.S. has been a isolationist, pacifist nation before without such major manipulations.   It’s all a matter of voters and who governs.  Getting the power (political influence) back from entities like oil corporations and outfits like Halliburton would be a good start. 

          My opinion is that the Japanese harbor a sort of love/hate for the U.S. military presence there.  But we both know that blacks ruin everything wherever a few of them show up.

  • It doesn’t matter, the Japanese refused multiculturalism and now the island will be turned into a giant toxic irradiated dump thanks to Fukushima.

  • The Japs need to stop being retarded and start Promoting Family Values.  I don’t worry about Japan.  Japs will NEVER allow their own to cease.  They will pay women, like Russia, before they’ll give up their existence.

    • Boereseun

      Population declines and population booms are normal cyclical events. When it becomes prudent to have large families in Japan and housing prices become cheaper and one salary is enough for a family to live off, this will be a thing of the past. Japan doesn’t need immigration, that’s for sure. In a hundred years, they will be better off as they would have figured out their problems in their own way. 

      The problem with Japanese women and men is the same problem with men and women in the West. The ideologically driven state, which interferes with the natural inclination of men and women to have children, has driven a wedge between the sexes. This will be overcome in time. 

      Sure, Japan might lose two thirds of its population and its economy might decrease as well. It will still be Japanese though and a good healthy population of 30 million Japanese is way, way, way better than a population of 200 million 3rd worlders. 

      • Populations rise and fall. Just look at the Black Death in Europe. Given time and left to natural forces of human nature (not artificial schemes and politically correct numbers games) populations will recover.

        The current problem seems to be the obsession with GROWTH. Modern economists insist that we must GROW the economy by increasing populations. It might work at first but the demands on resources and the increase in group competition guarantees trouble down the road.

        We might grow our way out of an economic down turn in the short term but the long term consequence will be a nightmare. Just look at what slavery has given us. We’re still paying for that.

    • Young Japanese women are more career oriented than previous generations. They are more interested in taking foreign trips with their friends than getting married and having children. For generations, Japanese wives were basically single mothers raising children when the husband, who was more than likely a salaryman spent hours working and drinking with his co-workers. Another reason is that contraceptives are not freely available in Japan as they are in other countries. Birth control pills are available only to women who have menstural problems. The Japanese medical community has been reluctant to approve contraceptives for use by women of that country,

      • WhiteGuyInJapan

        On top of that, many Japanese companies still maintain the cultural ideal of woman as homemaker and mother and so this generation of Japanese women often have to choose between a career or having children.  Companies in Japan often don’t have any support system for their female employees (on-site day care, sometimes not even maternity leave) or will pressure them to quite after marriage/giving birth.   And, as Lynn has documented repeatedly, it is generally the brightest and most educated who delay or forgo reproduction to pursue a career. 

        Although I generally support reproductive freedoms, I have a bad feeling that if birth control pills were made more widely available in Japan, the birthrate would plunge even more. 

        (It should be noted that abstinence and abortion are the two of the most commons forms of contraception in Japan.)

        • What is interesting is Japan’s high abortion rate despite an extremely strong abortion taboo, and schoolgirls being told disinformation at school about how dangerous any abortion procedure actually is.

          Like suicide rates, abortion rates are elevated wherever there is depression and a feeling that life is worthless… like suicide, it may be the best option in extreme cases, but people at risk of both need help, and both need to be regarded as social problems not legitimised, legalised or made easy to obtain under any pretext.

          Japan’s birthrate is the highest among the rural people, and lowest among career-minded women. This is expected and, as in the west, women who follow something like the Sex and the City lifestyle are more likely to be alcoholics or hooked on anti-depressants. Women in particular need to be protected from following such lifestyles.

          • Actually abortion is very expensive in Japan. First trimester abortions cost around $1000 or more. University students often take up a collection  to raise money to get an abortion.

      • Actually, Japanese women complain more often than in the west about having to work whilst the man stays at home.

    • The average Russian woman has from 2-10 abortions in her lifetime. They had no other form of birth control.

      • A ridiculous statistic, and impossible to validate because most abortion in Russia is illegal.

        • During Communism, women had no access to contraception. Abortions were freely available so this is what they used as a form of birth control. It still continues today, even though contraception is more readily available.

          • Under Communism, people had access at the very least to abstainance and to the pull-and-withdraw method. So no, I don’t buy what you’re saying. I’m not denying the abortion rate in Russia is high as it is in the rest of the former Eastern Bloc, but figures about abortion there are unreliable. Of course the average Russian woman hasn’t had ten abortions, or even ten pregnancies.

    • In Singapore, pronatalist incentives failed and they will in any other developed country, where career women aren’t motivated foremost by money.

  • haroldcrews

    Several lost decades of poor economic times haven’t helped.

    • JohnEngelman

      When the Japanese economy declined the Japanese had the sense not to have children they could not afford to raise properly. 
                                                                                              
      Although most Negroes in the world are more poor than nearly all of the Japanese, Negroes continue to have large numbers of children, many if not most of whom are illegitimate. 

      • We can also John add Mexicans to that list of those who like to have large numbers of children, illegitimate and the otherwise, which they can not afford. The state usually picks up the tab.

        • Blows my mind how you can have children you know you cannot feed.

          • Yeah…I suspect Mexicans have bought into it the mantra “it takes a village,” along with the White man’s money to raise their spawn. Most of these Mexicans could not afford one kid, let alone the brood they sire on our dime.

          • Strider73

            IMHO it’s due to their past history. Short lifespans and high child mortality were the norm for thousands of years in Africa and Central/South America. So women had to start having as many babies as possible, and as quickly as possible. Changes in those factors are too recent for them to change their ingrained breeding habits.

          • Anonymous

            Well, Mexicans and blacks always had more children than whites.  However, we held most of the power, had a tight immigration control, were not PC and had the firearms and wouldn’t tolerate any nonsense from people in the old days.  That was when white men were men, though.

  • ABM

    Just send in John Engelman, problem solved.

  • JohnEngelman

    More people mean more consumers and more job applicants. By the law of supply and demand this means higher prices, lower wages, and higher profits. The growth in the American population, which is fueled largely by immigration, is a major reason for the growing income gap in the United States.
     
    Even when the standard of living and the population increased at the same time, like they did during the 1950s and 1960s, the standard of living would have increased faster without population growth.
     
    Although advances in technology have usually compensated for population growth, advances in computer technology have reduced the economic value of jobs that most people are able to learn. At the same time, computer technology creates opportunities for geniuses to become millionaires and billionaires. Computer technology is another reason for the growing income gap. 

    • japan is right on thinking of the Japanese tradition and their own people and children s future.japan didn’t trade with other countries and still used samurais as warriors until we forced them to open trades with our guns in 1853   If they want to be left alone than they should be left alone. same goes for all

  • JohnEngelman

    The Chinese should study the decline in the Japanese population. Whatever the Japanese are doing it is preferable to the coercive one child policy of the Chinese government. 

    • IstvanIN

       The only problem with the one child policy is the aversion to girls babies.  If each family had one child, regardless of sex, the sex ratio would be a normal 50/50 and things would work out.  That is what the government would like to see. The people, however, want only boys, and that is what messes things up.  China was right to embark on population control.  They have a better shot at an ecologically sustainable China than India does with their out of control population.

      • JohnEngelman

        The Chinese policy is coercive. The Japanese policy is not. In fact, there is no obvious Japanese policy. Somehow the Japanese are doing what needs to be done. The Chinese should try to figure out how this is happening. 

      • The big mistake that the Chinese made was not taking into account the differences in the rural areas from the city. City dwellers have no problem with having one child. They do not mind even having girls. But the rural areas are a different story, most of these areas consists of farmers who need many children to work the land. Boys can do harder physical work than girls and boys will always take care of their parents. Girls on the other hand, will leave her family and join her husband’s family when she marries. Having daughters is seen as watering your neighbors garden. China then made an exception for those people in the rural areas who already had one girl, they can try again for a boy. Some of these people have abandoned their daughters to try again for two boys. Unwanted baby girls end up in garbage dumps, some are  discarded after birth because the family cannot keep them. The lucky ones end up in orphanages where they are adopted by foreigners and Chinese as well.

      • ILOVEMYRACE

        The preference for boys in China will eventually equilibrate due to supply and demand.   Already, Chinese brides are a rare commodity, and hence their value is increasing.   Chinese men are having a difficult time finding wives.  Young Chinese women have there pick of the best (most wealthy) young men.  Soon, girl babies will be preferred in China. 

         Femicide in China is temporary, and will be gone in 20 yrs.

        • Actually, city dwellers prefer to raise girls than boys. The reason for this is that parents are expected to purchase an apartment for their son when he marries.

  • WhiteGuyInJapan

    I have to say that Japan is not really that expensive.  After living in NYC, I found suburban Japan to be a bit cheaper in terms of rent, groceries, etc.  Japanese salaries are bit lower than their American counterparts, but my overall buying power is greater here than in the US.  Plus taxes are a lot lower (9%).

    Japan is a crowded country and so some population shrinkage probably won’t kill them and may even loosen up the real estate market (land is still expensive) and improve the quality of life in more qualitative ways.  Traffic on the weekend, lines at supermarkets and so on.

    As far as immigration, I fail to see why Japan would want to import more people.  Completely ignoring cultural factors and looking solely at economic concerns, Japan still produces large numbers of educated young people.  Japan’s highest brithrates are found among the rural and lower income brackets, who are more likely to work in the factories (and Japan is still an industrial manufacturing giant). 

    Western expats in Japan generally work in IT, finance and language education and thus are skilled workers.  And the vast majority of them only stay 1-3 years and move on.  Plenty of comic book geeks in the English-speaking countries itching to replace them.  Their numbers do not represent any serious threat to Japan in any sense.

    Japanese companies have responded to a second decade of recession by hiring many of their new workers through third-party dispatch compoanies with reduced salaries and security.  Newly-wed couples resond by delaying or forgoing reproduction. 

    The lack of interest in sex among young Japanese men and women still strikes me as unhealthy and bizarre.  A sizable percentage of Japanese women would rather live at home forever and spend their salaries on Gucci handbags than start a family.  A lot of young men would rather immerse themselves in comic books and video games than take a chance in a romantic relationship.   Unrealistic expectations and sheltered, spoiled upbringings, I suppose.

    Granted, my opinions are quite American, but I have been in Japan for a few years and feel somewhat qualified to comment at times.

    • I also heard of young Japanese men who see themselves as failures because they did not do well in the college enterance exams. They end up staying in their rooms for years and basically spend all their time on the computer with no interpersonal communitcation with anyone, including their parents.

      • WhiteGuyInJapan

        “Hikkikomori” is the Japanese word for a form of extreme social anxiety found mostly among men. They avoid almost all contact with other human beings and generally do not leave their rooms for years at a time.  The psychological and cultural factors seem to be exclusively Japanese and this condition is not often found among other East Asians.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikkikomori

        I suppose a perfectionistic, hyper-demanding society will result in some people choosing to drop out of the society altogether.  Interesting difference is that while alienated Whites may participate in a counterculture or even “go postal”, alienated Japanese take a more passive approach and stay in their rooms.  Or jump in front of a train.

        • Also doesn’t Japan have the highest suicide rate in the world? The reason is that many young people who do not do well on college entrance exams feel that they have lost face and are ashamed for their failure and end up killing themselves.

          • WhiteGuyInJapan

             Japan’s suicide rate is “only” the seventh highest in the world.  That dubious honor goes to Lithuania.  Japanese still commit suicide twice a often as Americans and three times as often as the Brits.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

            The more common patterns for suicide here tend to be 40-something office workers, lonely housewives and people who are diagnosed with a terminal medical condition who don’t want to burden their families. 

            On a personal level, my commute home gets delayed about once a month when some sad soul jumps in front of the train. 

  • The three largest immigrant groups in Japan are Koreans whose ancestors were forced to come to Japan and work in the coal mines after Korea was annexed by Japan in 1910. Some returned to Korea after WWII ended but the majority of them remained in Japan. Brazilians of Japanese decent immigrated to Japan but many have now returned to Brazil due to that country’s booming economy. The next largest group is Filipinos. They have come to work in Japan. Many of them work as nurses or as entertainers in Japanese nightclubs.

  • JohnEngelman

    Economic conservatives agree with me that population growth benefits employers at the expense of employees. They disagree that this is a problem. 

  •  ahahahaha yeah if only.  Africans are incapable of maintaining the fully functional infrastructure that we left them.

  • KenelmDigby

    Britain has run a de facto open borders regime for years now – and due to massive uncontrolled immigration (fully supported by both Labour and Conservative governments with a nudge, a wink and a nod – and a whole lot of bare faced lies to indigenous Britons), the British population has grown markedly in recent years and the birth rate has shot right up.
     It is also an undeniable fact that without mass immigration, Britain’s demographics would be in a worse decline than Japan’s.
    But…. exactly coinciding with mass immigration into britain has been the worst economic performance in modern history. A sharply declining and ruined economy that just cannot pull out of depression.
    By contrast Japan, (which has suffered a recent catastrophic *natural* disaster), has all economic indicators form inflation, through unemployment, through trade deficit to growth rates, a damned sight better than the UK.
     The conclusion must be that mass third world immigration to advanced nations is not only merely economically useless – it is destructive.

  • libertarian1234

    “Population over the long run is self-adjusting. ”

    It is for certain.

    Too many people put too great a strain on an area’s natural resources.  Nature has its own way of creating checks and balances, and any attemps to alter the natural balance of things will result in catastrophe.

    In the case unfolding now, it will be mass starvation from lack of food and water,  afrterwhich civil wars between the tribal factions will occur.  Right now the alarm is being sounded about a scarcity of food due to drought conditions in 50% of the country, which has been going on for years now, but to a lesser extent.  Meanwhile huge numbers of third world hordes continue to inundate the nation.

    While the huge populations of  China and India will have food riots due to scarcity, the US will have food riots AND inter-tribal fighting on a grand scale that will likely split the country into secessionist enclaves.

    Besides the mentally disturbed rainbow utopians, the greatest pressure being applied for constant growth comes from the power and money junkies who are abysmally steeped in greed.

  • rightrightright

    Japan is one of the most densely populated nations on the planet.  By reducing their numbers now, they will improve the quality of life for future generations of Japanese.  Left to themselves, the West would be doing the same.

    Unfortunately the traitor lefties jump on the demographics as their justification for ever more immigration to erode the unique identities of Western nations.  

    • WhiteGuyInJapan

       I agree.  Some of this worrying over population seems like dumb guy thinking (“Mine is bigger than yours.”).  Certainly quality is better than quantity, especially when it comes to high tech manufacturing.

  • “The number of marriages have dropped, and bearing children out of wedlock is rare, Tsuya said.”

    People should remember this when they bash white single mothers unconditionally, instead of setting strict terms to their benefits which ensure child raising standards in environments free of drunkenness and drug abuse etc. It is, at the very least, preferable to extinction.

    “Experts say women forced to choose between child and career in Japanese companies have increasingly opted against babies. Despite government efforts to foster gender equality, Japanese women are still expected to shoulder chores at home, researchers have repeatedly noted.”

    Women are better at home, they should put put Japans unemployed males to work and leave homemaking to the females.

    • The life of a Japanese housewife is a lonely one. They are essentially a single mother raising the children, while the husband is at work, working as many as 12 or more hours a day. When he is not working, he is out drinking with his coworkers. He often comes home drunk. These women get used to living without their husbands and they develop other interests. At retirement, many couples actually divorce or live separately because the women are not used to having the man at home after working away from home several years and spending very little time with his wife and children.

  • These Brazilians were the descendents of Japanese who immigrated to Brazil. Many of them have returned home to Brazil because of the booming economy there.

  • Whirlwinder

    This is not news. This is occurring in all of the industrialized world. Europe, America Japan, Russia. The only thing keeping America even is the illegal aliens who breed like mosquitoes, as does Islam. Demographics plus our slavish obsession with multiculturalism, diversity and political correctness will ensure our cultural suicide.

    • The American abortion rate more or less equals the rat of legal immigration, go figure. Ban both and everything’s fine.

      Its impossible to know the exact figures involved in illegal immigration, or to estimate how many whits would have been born were it not for purposefully childfree lifestyles, or the abuse of contraception to limit procreation excessively within marriages.

  • The problem is the downfall of manufacturing in the US. Young men with a good back could  get a manufacturing job and work there until retirement. They would retire with a good pension plan. This is not the case anymore. A lot of jobs are outsourced. These include customer service representative jobs, tax preparer jobs and other jobs. I have heard that some companies have returned some of these jobs to the states because their customers did not care for the Indian represenatatives.

    • Yea, farming and manufacture are good. People from such backgrounds have a much healthier birthrate, and economies based on manufacture withstand downturns much better.

  • Its because mainstream environ-mental-ism is another part of the culture of moral critique directed only against whites (and, less often, against non-whites who remind them of whites so that criticism will compare them to whiteness).

    Other countries populations are irrelevant if we shut the doors to immigration effectively and the demographic problem for indigenous whites is our underpopulation problem and an aging population, as the average family size falls below three children pr woman.

    People like Garrett Hardin understood this; but anyone opposed to *white* pronatalism at this time is the enemy, and motivated by a sense of white guilt over trees and animals the same way other anti-whites have guilt over blacks or Jews.

    Such a way of thinking is unknown in peoples who genuinely live close to nature; a Cherokee or an Iroquois understood ‘respect for nature’ as necessary to maintain his population, not his population as something to be managed out of mawkishness for bears, bald eagles and buffalo. 

    Too many so called WNs with environental sympathies, seem closer to the filth of Paul Erlich than to the wisdom of Savitri Devi. This should be worth a read, its about the population control movement and its harmful effects on whites.

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/06/careful-reflection-about-having-children-christine-overall-and-paul-ehrlich/

  • WhiteGuyInJapan

     Traditionally and officially, sex and marriage are viewed by the Japanese for the purpose of procreation and nothing else.  Romantic love is a relatively new import from the West and I’m not sure it translates too well. 

    I do see a chasm between “official” and “unofficial” attitudes.  Japanese men may view sex within a relationship or marriage negatively as it comes with a heap of responsibility.   Japanese culture is saturated with pornography and prostitution is widely available, so I think there is a fair amount of “unofficial” sexual activity going on.

    The Japanese tend to be a cautious and somewhat shy people who are not comfortable taking risks.  Approaching a woman (aside from a prostitute) may be too “scary” for a generation of men who grew up sheltered without ever experiencing either success or failure. 

    Maybe women have similar attitudes.  Other women refuse to give up their lives of shopping and living at home well into their 30s.  Prolonged childhoods, it seems. 

    Having said that, not all of them avoid sex.  I don’t wish to be vulgar here, but I was single for a few years in Japan and was not celibate. 

    •  I watched a video on You Tube where young women in Japan were selling themselves as prostitutes. Is this common there?

      • WhiteGuyInJapan

         In Japan there is conventional prostitution and there is also paid dating or “enjo kosai” in which young women (often senior and junior high school girls) receive money from men to sing karaoke and have dinner together.  And whatever else is negotiated. 

        Not sure how prevalent it really is, but the Japanese media certainly noticed it.

        http://www.japanprobe.com/2009/09/07/enjo-kosai-compensated-dating-in-japan/

        (English text, Japanese video)

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai

        Again, not sure how common it is, but this may help to explain the negative attitudes towards sex among some people.

  • WhiteGuyInJapan

     Horrible piece of history, but illustrative of my above comment.  Japanese tend to be shy as individuals but bold as groups.   Talking to a woman at bar is too frightening for many of them, but as group with a strong leader and a massive strength advantage, well, “comfort women” and Nanjing come to mind.

    •  I have noticed that Japanese men often are able to talk to women if they have been drinking because they lose their inhibitions.

  • JohnEngelman

    Indeed.
     
    Do you agree or disagree?