DHS Launches New Immigration Program

Alicia A. Caldwell, CNS News, August 14, 2012

The Obama administration on Tuesday directed young illegal immigrants to fill out new forms and pay $465 if they want to apply under a new program that would let them avoid deportation and obtain a U.S. work permit.

{snip} It will begin accepting immigrants’ applications Wednesday.

The paperwork for the program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, can be downloaded from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services website, said the agency’s director, Alejandro Mayorkas. Applicants must pay a $465 fee and provide proof of identity and eligibility.

Under guidelines that the administration announced Tuesday, the agency said proof of identity and eligibility under the program could include a passport or birth certificate, school transcripts, medical and financial records and military service records. DHS said that in some instances, multiple sworn affidavits, signed by a third party under penalty of perjury, could also be used.

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A decision on each application could take several months, and immigrants have been warned not to leave the country while their application is pending. If they are allowed to stay in the United States and want to travel internationally, they will need to apply for permission to come back into the country, a request that would cost $360 more.

The administration announced the plan in June to stop deporting many illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children. To be eligible, immigrants must prove they arrived in the United States before they turned 16, are 30 or younger, have been living here at least five years, and are in school or graduated or served in the military. They also cannot have been convicted of certain crimes or otherwise pose a safety threat.

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Critics of the program, including House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, have called the policy backdoor amnesty and say they worry about fraud.

“While potentially millions of illegal immigrants will be permitted to compete with American workers for scarce jobs, there seems to be little if any mechanism in place for vetting fraudulent applications and documentation submitted by illegal immigrants,” Smith said Tuesday.

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The Migration Policy Institute estimated last week that as many as 1.7 million people could be eligible to stay in the U.S. and legally work under the new policy.

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  • JackKrak

    Democratic voter registration cards just awaiting a signature….

    • That is what I am afraid of. This is going to cause an increase in voter fraud because these kids think that they are Americans.

  • Enar_Larsson

    “When a democratic city, athirst for freedom, happens to get
    bad cupbearers for its leaders…then, unless the rulers are very pliable and
    provide plenty of that freedom, they are punished by the city and accused of
    being oligarchs…It insults those who obey the rulers as willing slaves and
    good-for-nothings and praises and honors, both in public and in private, rulers
    who behave like subjects and subjects who behave like rulers. And isn’t it
    inevitable that freedom should go to all lengths in such a city? It makes its
    way into private households and in the end breeds anarchy even among the
    animals…a father accustoms himself to behave like a child and fear his sons,
    while the son behaves like a father, feeling neither shame nor fear in front of
    his parents, in order to be free. A resident alien or a foreign visitor is
    made equal to a citizen, and he is their equal.”

     

    –Plato, Republic book VIII 562d-563b, on the state
    of a democracy just before it slips into tyranny.
     

  • Church_of_Jed

    Will you pay taxes to politicians elected by amnesty voters?

  • Alex Dihes

    Sweet dream

    – Dad, what are you sighing about?       
    – Cannot wait for the day of relieve, son.
    – But it will be only on Tuesday, November 6, 2012.
    – That is what I’m talking about.       

  • The__Bobster

    Do the people of your country really want the present influx of 3rd world immigrants to continue?
    __________

    Hell, with the exception of the usual suspects (the ones who wrote the Immigration Act of 1965), we never wanted it to start.

    • IstvanIN

      Australia took out the oath of loyalty to the Queen for fear of offending.  They made the oath to God optional, so as to not offend.  They merely ask for: I pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people, whose democratic beliefs I share, whose rights and liberties I respect, and whose laws I will uphold and obey. When newcomers are not required to respect both your monarch and your god why should they be loyal to you? You are not even loyal to your own traditions.

  • Anonymous

    Hmmmm, our same DHS that has bought 700 million rounds of JHP ammo?  Just wondering…

    • Global Minority

      So did the Social Security Adminstration and the National Weather Service. I guess when the Social Security Checks stop due to the country being broke that’s what the ammo is for? Its a shame that people are FORCED to pay into social security via their pay check and will get nothing. But then again they have allowed people who have never worked a day in their life in this country to claim Social Security benifits and they wonder why it’s broke?

      I am still still to figure out why the National Weather Service would purchase ammo? The reason escapes me.

  • ncpride

    While potentially millions of illegal immigrants will be permitted to compete with American workers for scarce jobs, there seems to be little if any mechanism in place for vetting fraudulent applications and documentation submitted by illegal immigrants,” Smith said Tuesday.

    So tell us Mr. Smith, exactly what are you and the rest of CONgress planning to do other than ‘worry’, you spinless wimps? DO something and fight for us for just once you freaking cowards!

  • Chimp Master Rules

    Really?  Whose wealth do you want to redistribute?  Mine?  I don’t think so . . .

    You’re welcome to re-distribute YOUR wealth to anyone you want, but keep your hand out of my pocket.

    QUOTE:  “Certainly I believe in a much more functional approach, one that rewards good behavior, discourages irresponsibility, helps to create self sufficient, functional members of society while minimizing the damage done by the worst of the worst, without encouraging entitled dependency. Yeah, rough one.”

    No . . . impossible one. 

    Obviously, you don’t understand the fundamental theory of a RACIAL state.  We’re not about tinkering with punishments and rewards and “helping to create functional members of society.” 

    We don’t want to create a functional anything in this corrupt sewer called America.

    We want the expulsion of non-whites, jews, criminals, sexual deviates and lots and lots of white libs and lefties . . . in short, anyone who isn’t prepared to support a white racial state.  That’s because we believe that those who are not like US will not have OUR best interest at heart.  They will be guided by their own brand of self-interest and the politics that go with it . . . and as we see, that is toxic to whites.

    We believe that when we achieve a white racial state, whites will NATURALLY act in the best interest of fellow whites.  Not all.  We’ll still need laws, education and a justice system and the trappings of society.  But our problems will be WHITE problems solved by WHITE people.

    YOU ASK:  “But what of these poor illegal immigrants? What’s this have to do with those poor kids?”

    WE SAY:  To hell with them.  They’re not our problem.  

    • Question:  How are “sexual deviates,”  and white libs and lefties unprepared to support a white racial state?  Because they were around when America was 90+% white and many fully supported a white America.

      This is why I don’t call myself a White Nationalist.  They’re all too absolutist and unyielding.  I want to live in a pre 1965 Immigration Act demographics America not in Nazi Germany.

      Newsflash, white Americans all have their own individual interests.  Religious conservatives have their own interests they don’t share with me.  Environmentalists share interests I care a little about but not much.  I think you’ll end up doing a lot of expelling and will come to find you won’t have much support.  That or people will agree with you under duress because they know they will be expelled.

      I find it ironic that while you all believe blacks are the way they are because of their genetics but are unwilling to accept the same conclusion for homosexuals.  Are you going to expel your son or daughter if they turn out to be gay?

      I wouldn’t want to live like that.

      Mainstream white America will not support you until you take a more pragmatic approach.

      • Neanderthaldna

        I hate to come to loggerheads with fellow whites over this, but unfortunately it is a problem.  There is an undeniable allure to Hitlerian national socialism for many.  Lots of easy, anger augmenting, simple answers, long tradition.  

        It’s like…I agree up to a point, feel the rage, admire the fierce attitude…but like you…have problems with the overall vision.  In fact, see the appeal of these ideologies as a major impediment to changing things for the better.

        Furthermore, to put my views into the standard conventional wisdom model of American politics…I’m pretty close to a fanatical moderate.  Extremism in the defense of moderation is no vice, har har.  I trust neither the inherent abilities and character of the “people”, the “market”, even if 100% white (and/or estasian, eh?), nor in the wisdom of the anointed mandarins of socialismesque style government.  

        I hate the right and the left.  Furthermore…

        Although I support closing the floodgates to pretty much all immigrants from anywhere, a return to 20’s style policies in terms of real numbers and point of origin…accept real differences between Anglo-Americans and the kind of mixed Hispanics that are flooding this country…

        I have a hard time going the hyper-exclusive route many of the more vicious of the stormfronters take.  I accept a certain percentage of what I term “Pelasgian” ancestry as perfectly acceptable in terms of deciding who is white and not.  Pelasgian, referring to the darker aboriginal inhabitants of ancient Greece who blended with the Aryans who came to dominate the area and who likely darkened said Aryans long before the Turks.  In America, some Amerind, in New Zealand some Maori, heck, even in ol Europe, evidence of darker, pre-Aryan populations which form a genetic substrata to a white population.

        Ultimately this should be the job of science – real science, not ideology disguised as such.  Ultimately, although I, like you, would love to turn back the clock to pre-affirmative action abomination days…and although I firmly support restrictive, point-of-origin based immigration policies…

        My main concern is the blacks and their impact on everything they corrupt with the presence of a critical mass of their numbers wherever they go.  If the IQ numbers a few heroic scientists have accumulated are real, and I believe they are, the spread of these “people” and dilution of others’ genetics with theirs is the single greatest threat not only to our own country, but to humanity in general.  Coincides smartly with the decline of Islamic civilization (the inability to enslave millions of whites resulting in substitution of sub-Saharan Africans…) and furthermore I think the worst of some of our own recent problems, such as specifically the disaster wrought by the “sexual revolution”, are a direct result of confusing black behavior patterns as representative of broader human patterns.

        Regardless, you make some good points.  Been noticing the SF types showing up here more and more.  Good to see folks like yourself.  Don’t know whether the SF invasion is a natural result of ideological fanaticism over-representing actual numbers or growing numbers of neo-Nazis.  

        Just hope the neo-Nazis rethink their opinions before they cause too much trouble.

        On the other hand, seriously – what other organised group is there for folks like you and me, eh?  What is the alternative to old style, superstitious, hyper-exclusive paleo-fascism?


        • Been noticing the SF types showing up here more and more.  Good to see folks like yourself.  Don’t know whether the SF invasion is a natural result of ideological fanaticism over-representing actual numbers or growing numbers of neo-Nazis.

          It’s not new.  You should see the comments we reject.

          There will always be some of “that” in AR because there is enough common ground in the venn diagrams between AR and SF.  It’s just that we’re not in the mood for blaming the Js for every hung toenail.

          • Neanderthaldna

            Yeah.  Gotcha.  And kudos to you.  A real democracy, as practicable by folks with a certain average IQ, whatever that magic number may be, requires such tolerance.  Give and take.  Free exchange of ideas.

            Yeah, I see the Venn logic, agree.  My hope is that some of the SF’ers will awaken some, therefore again kudos to you for allowing the ones you do.  Hate censorship, but…yeah…common sense.  Hope to engage these guys as much as possible, without too much rancor.  Spirited debate, fine, but trying not to apply Godwin’s law here…no matter how specifically appropo, har har!  

            Ironic, the Jew thing.  My theory as to why so many Jews went lib-lefty ideologically speaking, is that such is precisely the result of how they have REALLY been treated over the centuries, as opposed to the histrionics applied to blacks.  Unfortunate.  I know that if I were Jewish, understood something about history and such…I’d find the harpy song of the lib-lefty hard to resist, certainly a logical fit considering the real presence of real live Nazis and their influence over our greater racial awakening.

            Funny…kind of the obverse of the liberal dilemma…

            IE – “We believe in freedom of expression, tolerance, cumbaya…even to the point of tolerating the activities and lurking presence of those who work toward and advocate our destruction because they do NOT value openness, tolerance…”

            Our Dilemma:  We advocate for a certain right to separateness, to exclusion based on genetic/cultural heritage, struggle against those who seek to destroy us through forced integration and dilution, yet must tolerate (?) a certain segment whose vision of who gets a seat on the ark, so to speak, is so exclusive that it threatens the cause of us all.  Furthermore the basis for their beliefs can be as unscientifically, quasi-mythological and irrational as the worst of black conspiracy theory idiocy, and whose violent propensities rival those of the same.  Unfortunate on many levels, not the least of which is the fact that…

            Hey, you know…things WILL likely get worse before they get better, whites WILL likely find themselves increasingly hunted down and beaten, raped, killed in an increasingly lawless, anti-white racist society and…

            Ever does polite society need hard men (and good hard Aryan women in my opinion, oh yes, Valkeries good, lol), to break heads and do what has to be done, and these Stormfronters… well, they sure talk the talk, some walk the walk.  A shame.  We really do rather need them, folks with their ferocity.  But when one goes off and massacres a temple-load of Sikhs under the seeming impression they are Muslims or something…

            Really?  Do we need that?

            Regardless, sorry for the windy preachiness here, but I’m sure you DO reject lots of stuff, and kudos for trying to post as much as possible.  Heck, I’m eternally grateful to you for censoring a couple of red-faced rants I’ve submitted over the last year of so myself.  Well written, well supported I like to think, but…yeah, thanks for NOT publishing, yuk yuk…

        • Dr. Möbias

          You have an obsession with Hitler, Nazis and national socialists and are projecting those things onto the people on this thread.  Why do you keep brining it up?

          In your OPINION there are Stormfront and “neo Nazis” types here.

          “Neo-nazi” doesn’t mean a damned thing, it’s just a term used by anti-Whites to silence any White with an opinion.

          Knock it off.

    • Dr. Möbias

      Thread winner. 

      Excellent, concise post.  Kudos.

  • Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA); daca is Spanish for “hand it over”.

    • blight14

       Mo goodness Dennis, I looked it up, you sir are 100% correct….SURELY someone else saw that acronym and put 2+2…..???? Or maybe they’re just that *&^% blatant, in our faces now……..

      • I believe it to be intentional. A sort of wink, from benefactor Obama to hispanics.

        • blight14

           Beyond comprehension…………..

  • Anan7

    SHIP THEM BACK HOME.

  • How in the world does one obtain these  “identity and eligibility under the program could include a passport or
    birth certificate, school transcripts, medical and financial records and
    military service records” while being an illegal criminal alien? 

    $465?  How about adding some 0’s to this number. 

  • Global Minority

    Unemployment is much more than 8% and most people know that. It’s more like 20%. Now the unemployment rolls are gong to increase higher becasue of this. Who’s country is it anyways? Certantly not ours anymore. That is obvioius.

  • MissBonnie123

    Does anybody think that these illegal alien children whose deportations are deferred(probably indefinitely)will be law abiding citizens? Why would they? They see that it pays to break the laws. If you are a nonwhite illegal, you get rewarded because of your parents’ law breaking behaviors. And the parents get rewarded too because we know they will stay in this country forever.

    And if Whites happen NOT to give in to your demands immediately, all you have to do is cry racism and that will definitely get you whatever you want!

  • I read an article in the Sydney Morning Herald where these so called asylum seekers say that they will still come because they need to because they are afraid of the Taliban.

  • Maximillian Heidenreich

    Another 1.7 million job seekers, huh? Will they qualify for unemployment/welfare/food stamps/etc. immediately?

    I can’t see any solution to the immigration problem, short of stamping all of them “Return to Sender” and thinking about who we really want here. We sure don’t need all the criminal gangs they ALL seem to generate. If we we we allow them to stay and welcome more in they will ineveitably not just out number whites but also our interests and our decline will continue. We KNOW where their interests lie: furthering their own racially based interests, primary of which is a political takeover town by town, region by region. Then they will fully implement their own racist bias against whites. They regard us an enemy to be conquered and subdued.

    To accord illegals the protection of the constitution and full due process of law is suicide. If you are here illegally, have overstayed your visa, etc., you gotta go. This sounds heartless but it isn’t intended to be. The fact is that the United States cannot be the rescuer of the world. The conditions in their own nations that cause the bulk of these “immigrants” to come here are deplorable and for most of us unimaginable. Mexico is a living hell for most of its citizens. Others are worse. The problem needs to be solved THERE, not here. Change your own nations before you come here to forever change ours for the worst.

  • Dave4088

    This is a joke and the rules and enforcement provisions will simply be ignored by Obama and the DHS.  Further, the DHS has no business enacting any immigration programs since they are not part of the legislative branch, so I guess this means we are now just a banana republic and a nation of men, not laws. 

    It seems the GOP has issued a gag order on this subject as besides the usual milquetoast rhetoric from Lamar Smith and others no Republican is saying or doing a GD thing about it.   Never mind, that this is a major national security and Constitutional issue.  This is why the stupid party will be the defunct party in a few short years. 

  • Alex Dihes

    Unfortunately, you might be right.
    I’m from Russia. We – WE – cannot understand, why you tolerate this, why you consider blacks humans, why you afraid to admit to begin with: Yes, I am a White racist. 

    When it comes to me and I’m asked at work or wherever: are you a racist?
    Yes, I say. I am a White racist. My slogan is:
    Go to your native land. Live there in Paradise. Be happy. Live long. All the best to you. And enjoy yourselves seeing us, whites, dying in poverty and misery without your ingenuity, intelligence, industry. 

    No one has any more questions.

  • Why would they stay and fight when White western countries are doing the heavy lifting for them. Our young White men are dying so these third world derelicts can come to our countries and demand benefits. It is complete insanity.

  • Dr. Möbias

    It didn’t take long to find Goodwin’s Law on this forum.

    Goodwin’s Law:  In any online discussion, someone inevitably brings up a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis.  The corollary is if you have to invoke Hitler to make your point then you’ve lost.

  • Dr. Möbias

    Many returning veterans from the immoral Viet Nam War complained bitterly about risking their lives in VN only to see young Vietnamese males riding about town on motorbikes when they should have been defending their own country.

    If people can’t organize themselves and fight for their own freedom, why should anyone expect us to do it for them?

  • sighs there are no jobs as it is.

    • ncpride

      Exactly. But now my American born kids have to compete with these illegal aliens for scarce jobs because THEIR parents broke the law. I don’t care if it’s no fault of theirs that they were brought here illegally, it’s also no fault of MINE or my kids who should not have to pay the price for their lawlessness.

  • potato78

    How nice it is?  One step further to end IQ people rule.  Gorge Bush did  not do anything wrong except following a mass demand, if he did not do that he could only serve one term in his presidency after 911.  However, no one like to be blamed and people like to point finger to someone else in US hybrid culture.  Americans have a hatred culture also, which already was built within, without any consciousness.  Then the people went to extreme.  Elected a true high IQ person Obama.  Thought he can solve the American problems.  Unfortunately, the political system is based on a vote.  When white people is a majority.  “Nothing change” and only change is a president.  When hispanics/Latino, and  Blalcks is a dominant majority.  “everything change and will be changed” with a president change.  Isn’t it?