Should Black People Tolerate This?

Walter E. Williams, Townhall, May 23, 2012

Each year, roughly 7,000 blacks are murdered. Ninety-four percent of the time, the murderer is another black person. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 1976 and 2011, there were 279,384 black murder victims. Using the 94 percent figure means that 262,621 were murdered by other blacks. Though blacks are 13 percent of the nation’s population, they account for more than 50 percent of homicide victims. Nationally, black homicide victimization rate is six times that of whites, and in some cities, it’s 22 times that of whites. Coupled with being most of the nation’s homicide victims, blacks are most of the victims of violent personal crimes, such as assault and robbery.

The magnitude of this tragic mayhem can be viewed in another light. According to a Tuskegee Institute study, between the years 1882 and 1968, 3,446 blacks were lynched at the hands of whites. Black fatalities during the Korean War (3,075), Vietnam War (7,243) and all wars since 1980 (8,197) come to 18,515, a number that pales in comparison with black loss of life at home. It’s a tragic commentary to be able to say that young black males have a greater chance of reaching maturity on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan than on the streets of Philadelphia, Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, Newark and other cities.

A much larger issue is how might we interpret the deafening silence about the day-to-day murder in black communities compared with the national uproar over the killing of Trayvon Martin. Such a response by politicians, civil rights organizations and the mainstream news media could easily be interpreted as “blacks killing other blacks is of little concern, but it’s unacceptable for a white to kill a black person.”


Not only is there silence about black-on-black crime; there’s silence and concealment about black racist attacks on whites—for example, the recent attacks on two Virginian-Pilot newspaper reporters set upon and beaten by a mob of young blacks. {snip}


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  • Anan7

    Walter Williams is a rare gem, someone who has the guts to acknowledge that blacks aren’t entirely a race of saints.

    Peaceful and voluntary ethnic separation is the answer.  Just like it was before Immigration Reform in 1965.

    • Francis Galton

      Yes, Dr. Williams is one of the few blacks for whom I have genuine respect and admiration (Thomas Sowell also falls into that category).  Of course, it goes without saying that they are both probably in the top 0.1% of the black IQ distribution. 

  • JohnEngelman

    Racial differences exist, with blacks disproportionately represented among homicide victims and offenders
    In 2005, homicide victimization rates for blacks were 6 times higher than the rates for whites.
    In 2005, offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites.
    From 1976 to 2005 —
    86% of white victims were killed by whites94% of black victims were killed by blacks Source: FBI, Supplementary Homicide Reports, 1976-2005.       

  • mikejones91

    That last paragraph is poetry. 

    • MekongDelta69

      Last pp.:

      Racial demagoguery from the president on down is not in our nation’s best interests, plus it’s dangerous. As my colleague Thomas Sowell recently put it, “if there is anything worse than a one-sided race war, it is a two-sided race war, especially when one of the races outnumbers the other several times over.”

  • Church_of_Jed

    “Finally, somebody said it! But, unfortunately, it was the black dude, again. Whitey Fail!”

    -Rev. Jed DeValleyism, “As bad as racism and lynching were, Diversity is worse,” 2012

  •  None of our own African cities made this list.  I’m surprised.

    About Bangui, Central African Republic, CNBC states:

    There are no travel restrictions for the capital of the Central African
    Republic, Bangui, but the U.S. State Department warns against all but
    essential travel outside of it. There were outbreaks of violence in
    Bangui in early June 2011 resulting in government-imposed curfews in the
    city, and recently there have been attacks on some Europeans on the
    scenic walks.

    Sounds like Baltimore.

    Pray tell, CNBC, what is “essential travel” to the Central African Republic?  Is there anything business or commerce oriented worth traveling there for? 

    • anmpr1

       What do the cities on the list have in common?  Let’s see…oh…can’t say.  That would be racist.

  • Local_Ale

    As good as the column is, always remind oneself, Walt Williams was supportive of sending white boys (and girls even) to go make Iraq safe for girls to go to school.  He was just doing a job for the Bushies of course, but he still caved.


  • Big deal, I smell an Obama Fanatic  here . . . 279,384 black murder victims between 1976 – 2011 in the good ole’ USA.   Wow (yawn) thats considered an “off year” in Zimbabwe, Congo, Zaire, Mozambique, etc.

    • crazy_j

      Walter Williams is hardly an Obama supporter. While he generally sticks to social issues, he occasionally delves into economics and the politics behind both. Here is one essay that specifically addresses the issue you raise

      A lot of his writing is indexed over at Lew Rockwell’s site. I generally find his musings to be quite informative.

  • Johnny Reb

    Overall good article but the lynching statistics always raise my hackles . . .

    Any data coming from the Tuskegee Institute probably isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.  The second major source of stats (after 1910) is the NAACP.  No self-interest there, right?

    The data is interesting for what they NEVER tell you . . . such as that their own numbers show that in the 1880s, more whites were lynched than blacks (just see the list published by Tuskegee).   They also never tell you that statistics for the south dominate . . . whereas not much attention was paid to lynchings out west.  

    Overall, if you compiled TRUE stats, you’d probably find that more whites were lynched overall than negros.

    • The__Bobster

      Overall, if you compiled TRUE stats, you’d probably find that more whites were lynched overall than blacks.

      Since most people who were lynched deserved to be lynched, I believe the 30% White victim figure to be accurate.

  • Francis Galton

    While I certainly respect Walter Williams’ desire to preserve his race (after all, any mentally healthy person should want to), I can’t help but feel that his hand-wringing is somewhat misplaced.  The fact of the matter is that MOST murder victims, and particularly black ones, are not entirely innocent.  Many of those murders are surely the result of drug deals gone bad, general gang warfare, or the labyrinthine “Love Dodecahedron” (as opposed to the more subdued love triangle) that characterizes inner city “booty calls” and baby-making (and yes, I did just use “dodecahedron” and “booty calls” in the same sentence).

    Dr. Williams would have you believe that over a quarter-of-a-million happy, well-adjusted, productive citizens have been randomly butchered by vicious savages of the same race since the 1970s.  The cold hard reality is that most of these murder victims were probably not much better than the people who murdered them. 

    It therefore follows that this under-the-radar bloodbath is almost certainly eugenic in nature, and it has easily saved the taxpayers $100 billion or more in prison costs and welfare programs; moreover, there are probably thousands of Whites and their descendants alive today who would not be alive had these black murder victims lived longer.

    Sorry, but I just can’t feel sorry for these people.  Ninety-nine percent of their problems are self-created or genetic, and they have no one to blame but themselves (or their genes).  But never you mind that!  Mr. Maddow, what’s the latest news on St. Skittles?

    • You’re right about virtually all black murder victims, but I can’t translate that into insouciance about black crime.

      About ten years ago, when St. Louis wound up high on the list of cities and crime metrics, (it happens often), the then-white police chief tried to talk us all off the ledge by reminding us that three-quarters of murders in the City of St. Louis involved suspect(s) and victim(s) both with very similar life histories and criminal histories.  In other words, this was code for “white people shouldn’t worry about black crime because it’s black hoodie thug on black hoodie thug.”

      I did the math.  Since, in the Chief’s estimation, only one fourth of city murders are “real,” that meant that the City of St. Louis still had a per-100k murder rate that was 2.75 higher than the entire murder rate of the adjoining suburban county, which itself has plenty of blacks.  And of course the multiple was way higher relative to white flight counties.

    • El_Magyar

      Spot on. These idiots killing eachother is the best thing they have done for society.

  • Athling

    I can respect a man like Mr. Williams. Unlike the vast majority of American blacks, he holds the truth in higher regard than black solidarity.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      The only thing I don’t like about Dr. William’s economic philosophy is that he is a free trader, something that has singlehandedly destroyed the US middle class.

      • Big government neo socialism destroyed the middle class. Blacks, for the most part, are not free marketers. The overwhelming majority of blacks are waiting with their hands out for the government to redistribute some of your wealth to them. It’s been that way for a very long time. 

  • crystal evans

    The sad thing about these black on black crimes is that no one in the black community will try to solve these crimes because they are afraid of the repercussions if they talked to the police. Instead there are similar crimes that happen a few days later which are deemed “revenge acts” for the original crime that started it all.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      I can’t think of anything “sad” about them.  Unless it’s that there are not more thug on thug killings.

      • crystal evans

         There are many people who are killed in these attacks because they were at the wrong place at the wrong time. Children have been killed by stray bullets shot by thugs. If this is not sad, I do not know what is.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    LES  KINSOLVING  is reading and discussing this now! on wcbm listen live on the web

  • Alexandra1973

    Over there, it’s tribal warfare.  Over here, it’s gang warfare.

    • crazy_j

       Same thing, different name.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    instead of trying to find solutions wouldn’t it be smarter to just accept that this is the way blacks are? they like violence they like living a degenerate lifestyle why dont they just admit the way they are. they dont want to learn or improve themselves or be productive. they like being drug dealers drug addicts and violent criminals watching springer all day and playing xbox  and beating random leftist white people they are from a savannah  who is going to reform them? nobody. the wilding is going to explode into armed racial street  combat so go buy a gun

    • And the ones that have been trained to wear a suit are just as bad, robbing us of our financial future. What else are we to think of black after black politician that are in prison or headed there.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    dont be a victim. dont be a leftist  reginald denny. go arm up, go to bass pro and buy a gun

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

     the true number is about 150

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

     blacks are poor because they sit around whining like babies about events from 400 years ago and because they like to drink excessively and abuse drugs and watch judge judy instead of working and that attitude is why they were slaves in the first place

  • sbuffalonative

    Blacks have achieved what the Klan could only dream of.

  • radical7

    In the early 1990s,  remember Bob Beckel who a the time was a co-host of the then CNN program on “Crossfire”, tear into Walter Williams for being critical of scholarships and grants that were geared toward minorities while at the  same time , he (Williams ) had applied for multiple race based grants.  Williams response was “we are not here to talk about me.”  Sleazy!

    The man is a hypocrite! 

    • Thanks to a radical/progressive/communist/democrat or whatever you call yourself, you have just reinforced the point that Williams was making. When your ilk has no answer for this type of behavior you obsucate.

      • radical7

        I gave you my answer. You, like Williams, are a hypocrite who have double standards for those of you ilk.

    • crazy_j

      And why shouldn’t he? The programs are there. They are funded with tax dollars.

      Your line of reasoning is similar to the line leftists use to decry old, white tea-partiers who dare denounce government programs while drawing Social Security checks or using Medicaid to go to the doctor. These people have been forced, under threat of violence, to pay into that system for their entire lives. Why should they not receive benefits they are entitled to? Indeed, benefits that they themselves have paid for?

      I’ll be the first to say that if a new, taxpayer-funded, government program appeared whose intent was to shovel money into the wallets of white men who make between $50k and $75k per year, I’d be on that like nobody’s business. And why shouldn’t I?

      • radical7

        Oh. So it is fine for him to engage in the “do as I say but not as I do.” school of thought.

        Please! You are as sad and hypocritcal as he is!

        • crazy_j

          Who has engaged in a “do as I say but not as I do” school of thought?

          What makes me sad? I’m in a pretty good mood right now. How am I a hypocrite? I haven’t done anything that I said I wouldn’t or shouldn’t do. I described a situation and used an allegory to reinforce it.

          What kind of man are you to barge in here and attack a fellow white man like this? I think you need to re-think your stance, or at least figure out a way to better articulate it.

          And besides, your whole someone who says something now said something slightly different twenty some odd years ago argument is somewhat lacking. Personally, I hold a number of opinions now that I didn’t hold twenty years ago. I’ve shed opinions that I had twenty years ago and developed new ones.

          It’s called intellectual growth. Get some.

    • Flagged for trolling.

    • This is how the political left has operated for over 100 years. Don’t respond to the facts presented…smear the one who presents them. 

    • sbuffalonative

      How are the facts of the high murder rates of blacks by blacks relevant to Mr. Williams’ credentials? Let’s say Mr. Williams is a hypocrite for taking scholarships, how is this important to the issue of black on black crime?

      Are you simply trying to change the subject?

  • I know where you are going with this but I really don’t think I would say whites were lawless or hateful in the early 1900s. After all, plenty of blacks made it through that time to be our problem today. But where I would agree with you, if you bought the concept of white guilt/political correctness was just in the Comintern cooker and yet to be served up to a gullible white West. That is the main difference, white man back then was the same intellectual, creative genius then as today and black man, still the same savage.

  • Black politicians usually blame whites or “institutional racism” as the cause of the high level criminality and overall dysfunction in typical urban areas. They will never conceded that the problem is in their culture. Until they address the real issues behind this senseless violence, it will continue and probably rise. There is a level of callousness, anger and hatred in the black community today that is unparalleled in American history.  

  • Celestial_Time

     “It’s just whomever managed to get the upper hand that day.  Justice is
    impossible when the entire population is criminal…..and completely

    This is why I learned at an early age that the idea of some post racial utopia where black people and White people are bonded through mutual respect and trust was nothing but Hollywood fantasy. To expect justice, peace and serenity from a segment of society that has neither an understanding nor desire for justice, peace and serenity is like expecting food to grow in a desert simply because you think it would be beneficial.

    A modern “civilization” of black people can’t even really take care of themselves without outside assistance, so I really don’t understand the rationale that believes black people are capable of cooperating and living peacefully with another race of people that they are taught to hate and mooch off of.