Asians Lead U.S. in College Degrees: Census

Reuters, May 24, 2012

Asians are the most highly educated group of Americans, with more than half with a bachelor’s degrees or higher, the Census Bureau reported on Thursday.

Among groups of Asian Americans 25 and older, 74 percent of Taiwanese and 71 percent of Indians had at least a bachelor’s degree, the agency said as part of its release of American Community Survey data on hundreds of racial, tribal and Hispanic groups.

The comparable figure for the U.S. population overall is 28 percent.

Several Southeast Asian groups fell behind the overall U.S. rate for a bachelor’s degree or higher. They included Vietnamese at 26 percent, Cambodian and Hmong at about 14 percent and Laotian at 12 percent.


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  •  “The comparable figure for the U.S. population overall is 28 percent.”

    1) Do NOT assume that “the U.S. population” is the same as “American citizens.”

    2) Do NOT read that too fast and assume that the “comparable figure for Caucasian Americans overall is 28 percent.”

    “Cream rises to the top.”

    • StivD

      Reply to you Mr. Engelman:

      They buy so much of it because it’s impossible to avoid. Unless you pay very close attention you an often pick something up , buy it, then realize it was made in China. Even the packaging is deceptive.

  • Can anyone please explain, how, if asians really are smarter than White People, why can’t they fix their own Countries and why, why do they have to come to White Countries in order to learn from White Books?  And why do they need so much asian privilege and why do they need Affirmative Action?

    • JohnEngelman

      For years, many Asian-Americans have been convinced that it’s harder for them to gain admission to the nation’s top colleges.

      Studies show that Asian-Americans meet these colleges’ admissions standards far out of proportion to their 6 percent representation in the U.S. population, and that they often need test scores hundreds of points higher than applicants from other ethnic groups to have an equal chance of admission. Critics say these numbers, along with the fact that some top colleges with race-blind admissions have double the Asian percentage of Ivy League schools, prove the existence of discrimination…

      Immigration from Asian countries was heavily restricted until laws were changed in 1965. When the gates finally opened, many Asian arrivals were well-educated, endured hardships to secure more opportunities for their families, and were determined to seize the American dream through effort and education.

      These immigrants, and their descendants, often demanded that children work as hard as humanly possible to achieve. Parental respect is paramount in Asian culture, so many children have obeyed–and excelled.

      Asian students have higher average SAT scores than any other group, including whites. A study by Princeton sociologist Thomas Espenshade examined applicants to top colleges from 1997, when the maximum SAT score was 1600 (today it’s 2400). Espenshade found that Asian-Americans needed a 1550 SAT to have an equal chance of getting into an elite college as white students with a 1410 or black students with an 1100.

      Top schools that don’t ask about race in admissions process have very high percentages of Asian students. The California Institute of Technology, a private school that chooses not to consider race, is about one-third Asian. (Thirteen percent of California residents have Asian heritage.) The University of California-Berkeley, which is forbidden by state law to consider race in admissions, is more than 40 percent Asian–up from about 20 percent before the law was passed.

      • holyflower

        Stephanie had about three questions, John. The first, which you avoided entirely, is the most interesting: “Can anyone please explain, how, if Asians really are smarter than White People, why can’t they fix their own Countries?”
        Would you care to address it?  Why for most of two millenia have Asian countries lagged far behind white countries? Why after the mid-twentieth century and ONLY after two suicidal world wars in the West and the equally suicidal “civil rights era”/1965 Immigration Act, Asian countries began make some progress? 

        Why, without the West, would the Asian countries still be economic and cultural and political basketcases?

        • JohnEngelman

          The last major influx of Orientals was that of the Vietnamese. They were war refugees. There is not currently an influx of Chinese, Japanese, South Koreans, or even Vietnamese. 
          Orientals were not lagging behind the West during the dark ages. When Marco Polo wrote his account of China many in the West doubted a civilization so advanced could exist.
          After the Chinese expelled the Mongolians in 1368 they indulged in their version of American exceptionalism. Like most Americans on the right, they assumed that China was the middle kingdom, surrounded by lesser peoples who had nothing of value to learn about. 
          While the Chinese were indulging in the self congratulation typical on the American right, Europe was entering the Renaissance. That was when Europe developed the most advanced civilization in the world. Nevertheless, with their higher average intelligence there is nothing the Orientals cannot learn from us. I expect them to surpass them pretty quickly in their own countries, just as they are already surpassing us in our own country. 
          After one or two generations Orientals in the United States usually earn more money than whites. That is not because of cheating or affirmative action. It is because of hard work and superior intelligence. 

          • holyflower

            “While the Chinese were indulging in the self congratulation typical on the American right, Europe was entering the Renaissance. That was when Europe developed the most advanced civilization in the world.”

            The Renaissance was a rebirth of classical learning which, of course, was of European origin.  

            “There is nothing the Orientals cannot learn from us…”

            Why is it they must always have to look to us? Why is almost all of their efforts to learn directed at us?  Why are they so lacking in creativity? Why have they been so lacking in the ability to generate their own science and high culture?

            Why, for example, is there close to zero interest in Chinese or Indian literature?  British historian Thomas Macaulay:

            “I have no knowledge of either Sanscrit or Arabic.-But I have done what I could to form a correct estimate of their value. I have read translations of the most celebrated Arabic and Sanscrit works. I have conversed both here and at home with men distinguished by their proficiency in the Eastern tongues. I am quite ready to take the Oriental learning at the valuation of the Orientalists themselves. I have never found one among them who could deny that a single shelf of a good european library was worth the whole native literature of india and arabia. The intrinsic superiority of the Western literature is, indeed, fully admitted . . .” 

            Again, why is Asian literature so sterile — relative to that of the explosively creative West?


            “I expect them to surpass them pretty quickly in their own countries…”

            You are likely right about that.  Asian countries are much less subject to  dysgenic fertility [paying the least responsible and least able to have more children and encouraging the most responsible and most able (particularly females) to have fewer children] and Asian countries have almost no dysgenic immigration.

          • Anon12

             Don’t forget that China is a homogenous nation, which we White nations are not.  We have to accomodate, support, give quotas to, educate, medicate, feed and house all these nonwhites. China does not. These nonwhites have used up all our resources, our EVERYTHING, our kids can’t even get a decent education due to the violence, etc. from these nonwhites in their schools.  Who could even begin to study and concentrate in that environment?  A multiracial nation is HELL for our White peoples (if they will admit it) and especially for our young who will never know how America was at one time and will never be again. Poor White kids. What a travesty we have done to them.

          • JohnEngelman

            Why, for example, is there close to zero interest in Chinese or Indian literature, art, music?      
            – holyflower   
            I love all of that. 

          • “superior intelligence”?  Oh c’mon now!

            There’s a reason why Asians do not stand up against Non-White Privilege dear boy and I suspect, you know it better than all of them put together.  Tell us all the Truth now and admit, you’d have nothing were it not for the Sacrifices of White Men.

        • JohnEngelman

          Stephanie had about three questions, John. The first, which you avoided entirely, is the most interesting: “Can anyone please explain, how, if Asians really are smarter than White People, why can’t they fix their own Countries?”         – holyflower   
          They don’t need to fix their countries. We do. The standard of living for most Americans has been in decline since Bill Clinton left office. 

        • JohnEngelman

          Oriental countries are doing fine. The United States is in trouble. The standard of living for most Americans has declined since Bill Clinton left office. The Republican Party, which most lower income whites support, has nothing to offer the economy but more tax cuts for the rich. China buys up our national debt while producing better consumer goods at better prices. 

      • You, as usual, never answer my questions.  You repeat and robotically so, false numbers.  Just because some Third World Alien can memorize 2 + 2 =4 does not mean they understand how they got there.

        Affirmative Action is for asians.  SOME blacks, hispanics and women get it but that’s only to make it appear as though they’re all treated the same under that racist program that is only meant to drive out White Men.

        culture – Oh yeah, cow worship, crushing dead babies to make “medicine”, eating private parts of animals, using the Streets as toilets, their constant cheating, scheming and scamming and terribly overcrowded everything is something we all need to copy now ain’t it?

        Western Civilization did not come from asians, it came from White Men and ONLY White Men.

        For the last time, if asians are so smart, why do they need to be in White Countries?  Why do they need their tons of asian privilege?  Why do they need Affirmative Action?  Why do they need White Man Books?  Why do they come here to give birth on their birthing tours in order to gain INSTANT American Citizenship for their Third World Alien Babies?  I could clearly go on and on here but I know you will never answer not even one of my questions just like you never have.  You can’t answer because you know I’m right.

        To copy Jupiter here:  Explain why White Men created just about everything instead of your asians and explain why asians are so extremely dependent on EVERYTHING the White Men Built and Created and explain why asians cannot fix their own Third World Countries.  Explain why they cannot compete fairly with White Men.

        • crystal evans

           Stephanie, the things you mention have nothing to do with all Asians. For example, as a Japanese American, none of the things you mention are part of our culture. As far as crushing babies to make medicine, there are some Asians cultures that see life as being cheap and since the babies that are killed are female and their culture has little or no value for females. It is not surprizing. As far as the other things you mentioned, in India there is a strict caste system that determines the worth of a person. A person who is a dalit, which is an untouchable is the lowest class and the poorest. These people are the ones who do the dirtiest work in India and they tend to have the poorest living conditions. The highest class is the Brahmin class, which is the priestly class. Many of these people are light skinned and tend to be the wealthiest citizens of India. They live in the richest homes and have every modern amenity including a flush toilet.

          • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

            I’m not familiar with the Japanese American culture.  Is it a fusion of Japanese culture and American culture?  Is Crystal Evans a common name in that culture?

          • crystal evans

             Japanese American culture is basically the Japanese culture that existed around 1905 in  Japan. Japanese Americans have nothing to do with Japan. The reason for this is that we are blamed for everything that Japan does. We had nothing to do with WW2. But we were blamed for it. When there was an uproar about Japanese imports, we are blamed for it. Japanese Americans have their own festivals in Hawaii, Seattle, San Francisco and Los Angeles and these do not involve Japanese expats. Japanese expats are not accepted into the Japanese American community because of language and cultural differences. I am actually married to a white man this is why my last name is Evans.

          • crushing babies is from the chinese, not you.

            caste – I know.  They even kill people who associate with someone “lower” or, the “elders” will gang rape her for “punishment”.  Or is that muslim?

            Brahmin – That must be where Mushahed comes from.  His family has cars and lives in a normal house and has money too (in India).  And, he’s the one  who told me that Meta’s Mother was probably murdered when I related to him a story she told me about her Mother setting herself on fire because she gave Birth to her first.

            Crystal, I know the Japanese are nowhere on the level as other Asians but I’m mad at your people.  Please see my earlier post to you as to why.

          • Sherman_McCoy

            My own personal crusade is against the H1-B and L-1 visa holders who, enabled by the government (at the behest of the treasonous cheap labor lobby) to drive down tech job wages to the point that it makes no sense for a young white American to go into debt to get an engineering degree.  These people come primarily from India and China, so I am not so down on the Japanese, who (it seems to me) would rather stay in Japan.   Still, they have truly sick and perverted porn. : )

        • StivD


          John Engelman is white in body, oriental in mind and soul.

          • JohnEngelman

            Thank you. 

      • I forgot to mention the “parents” part:

        asians brought us depressed wages and that explains why White Parents can no longer teach their children.  They’re too busy working double just to put food on the table and provide their children with a place to live.

        White Children aren’t learning in School because Schools no longer teach things worth learning.  There’s also the fact that many of them are Affirmative Action Flunkies and simply cannot teach and then there’s the asians who can’t speak English.  There’s also that thing that now runs rampant in America that says:


        • JohnEngelman

          Orientals who come to the United States are usually poor. Nevertheless, their children usually outperform white children in public school. I saw it happen in San Jose with the Vietnamese. 

          • Sure.  You won’t address any of my points and I’m supposed to believe what you write?

            Try your crap on someone else John for I know what you are and what you’re about.  You are not an Honest person.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Vietnamese? I find it hard to believe they outperform whites. Doesn’t this article list them as an Asian group that lags? I think when you come on here and brag about the Vietnamese, you are comparing their performance to a black community.

          • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

            Being “good at school” is a skill.  And school is overrated.  MIT’s entire curriculum is now online.  Someone on here once said the problem with blacks is they think education is something that happens to you rather than something you do.  Americans built the Erie Canal when there wasn’t one single certified engineer in this country.  You don’t need someone who is the living embodiment of “those who can do, those who can’t teach” to tell you that you can.  If you can, you will, and a piece of paper saying that those with authority have deemed you “can” isn’t going to change that.  Far too much emphasis is placed on university in our culture.  We were far better off with fewer of the “special people” turned out by the academic industry.

             When Asians finish being so much better than white people at school they never seem to find themselves in positions that require they find their way out of anything tougher than a paper bag without a road map and a hand-holding all the way.  In China they’re still flying their reverse-engineered ripoffs of Russian combat aircraft with reverse-engineered ripoffs of Russian turbine engines.  These are complex machines no doubt, but the basic technology is almost 70 years old now.  It’s not a big mystery. 

            Our school system rewards worker bees who focus on rote memorization.  I graduated high school with a high C average without doing a single piece of homework in four years because I didn’t give a crap about school.  But when test time came I smoked all the National Honor Society Asians while putting in a fraction of the study time they did.  I was busy during that time learning how to make my way in the working world without the cozy blanket of nepotism enjoyed by practically all Asians.  It paid off far better than reading the same book ten times.    They spend hours to be good at completing what someone else puts in front of them.  They’re not innovators.   That’s the point.

            Asians prospered in this country by running restaurants and dry cleaners on the razor’s edge of the regulatory framework, pressing their kids into service as unpaid employees and living barely above the subsistence level.  There’s nothing wrong with that at all and my hat’s off to anyone from any race who can build wealth by practicing thrift and being industrious, just don’t try and tell me that starched shirts on the cheap because the chemicals are dumped in the stream behind the strip mall and moo goo gai pan cooked by a 12 year old not getting paid are going to inherit our society with its majesty intact.  

          • You need to stop.  You don’t get to insult My People and expect me to listen at the same time.  To even go there shows me what you’re really about.

          • JohnEngelman

             How is expressing my admiration for Orientals insulting your people?
            It is easy for me to justify my admiration by quoting Jared Taylor, Professor J. Philippe Rushton, who has spoken at American Renaissance conferences, and articles that have been posted on this American Renaissance website, such as this one. 

          • The__Bobster

            It appears you got lucky with your Asian concubine last night, eh, Yuan?

          • StivD

            In reply to your other post: I bet the difference was that the American POWs weren’t dead when they were beheaded.  The Japanese considered POWs to be dishonorable scum to do with as they pleased. 

        • crystal evans

           How did Asians bring in depressed wages? Illegal aliens did that because they were willing to work for less than what was being paid to the average American worker. If white children are not learning in school how come so many of them end up succeeding and going on to college? Granted there are many Asians from Asian countries who have difficulties speaking English. But there are many of us who have been in America for generations who cannot speak our native languages but are fluent only in English.

          • CRN did an Article on it some years ago.  I still have the magazine but will have to go through the stack to find it.  I will not be hurrying to do this for you but I will do it.

            Illegal Aliens did help in the depression of wages of course but so did Asians.  Illegal Aliens can be shipped out and wages will return but you, you’re legal and you set precedent and worse, Asians did it to our best areas of employment.

            White Children – Oh hey now, I’m not the one who calls American Children dumb, that comes from “articles” like the one we’re posting about and of course John Engelman himself.  I said it because I’m tired of hearing how y’all are smarter.  Yes, college kids are Children in my eyes given how I’m old enough to be their Mother.

            cannot speak – I hear ya and I know, it’s not your fault you were born and raised where you were but, there has got to be some understanding for us White People.  We should be able to have the Right to have a Country just for us should we so choose.

            Let me try to explain where a part of my frustration comes from.  Japs chopped off the heads of American Soldiers to test the sharpness of their swords yet there is no mention of that in the Jap Museum is there?  I also cannot get past let alone get over how the Japs complained and got the Newspaper Clippings removed from American Veteran Hospitals.  I’m angry about that.  This is America. They have No Right to do that.

            I tell ya what, you help me and I’ll help you.  Start a petition, you need to do it because you’re Japanese, to make them stop their nonsense.  Newspaper Clippings go back up on the walls and the Japanese Museums must talk about all what they did to us.  You do that and I’ll stop being hard on Asians.  Well, not all Asians but at least the Japanese.  After that’s done, we’ll shame Japan into stopping the sex and labor slavery and race trading (korean mixing).

          • JohnEngelman

            Japs chopped off the heads of American Soldiers to test the sharpness of their swords.
            – Stephanie Galonska
            During World War II, some United States military personnel mutilated dead Japanese service personnel in the Pacific theater of operations. The mutilation of Japanese service personnel included the taking of body parts as “war souvenirs” and “war trophies”. Teeth and skulls were the most commonly taken “trophies”, although other body parts were also collected.

            The phenomenon of “trophy-taking” was widespread enough that discussion of it featured prominently in magazines and newspapers, and Franklin Roosevelt himself was reportedly given, by a US Congressman, a gift of a letter-opener made of a man’s arm.

      • The__Bobster

        Colleges do discriminate against Asians because they know that they game the system and cheat wherever they can.

        • JohnEngelman

          An assertion like that needs to be documented. Orientals do not need to cheat. They succeed by hard work and superior intelligence, as Professor Rushton, who has spoken at AR conferences, has stated. 

        • crystal evans

           If you do not believe that Asians succeed by working harder. I would recommend reading the book the Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother by Amy Chua which will tell you the lengths that Asian parents will go to have their child succeed in school.

    • Church_of_Jed

      Only a raciss would think that anything needs “fixing” in Asian countries. 

      The Asians are coming here to “fix” our White privilege, which is easier than ever now that the blacks have “fixed” us into a permanent condition of surrender.

      • Sir Jed, no offense Sir but I don’t blame the Blacks.  I blame us.  Non-whites would have no power if White People didn’t give it to them.  Now I Love White People but really, we did this to us.

        What you write reminds of 

        • Church_of_Jed

          Come over to my house and let me read it to you.

          • I need to do that ’cause I’m probably gonna have questions about it.

    • crystal evans

      Many Asian countries have foundations in religions such as Confucinism and Buddhism. Asians believe in hard work and some like in Japan and South Korea, end up working themselves to death.  Women have been taught in these cultures that they are subservant to men and they are to stay home and raise children. These women spend more time as single mothers putting their whole attention into their children. Their husbands spend more time with work colleagues than with their own families. It is no secret that young Japanese women are not interested in getting married and having children. Japan’s low birth rate belies this very fact. In the future, there will be more elderly in Japan than children. Japan is the only Asian country that does not have more men than women. In South Korea, young women are seen as materialistic and career oriented by many men. So much so that Korean men are going overseas to marry Vietnamese and Filipino women, who they see as more family oriented than Korean women are. This is causing an upheaval in the traditional Korean culture which rejects anyone that is less than full blooded Korean. Classes are being held for these new foreign wives to teach them the Korean language and culture.

      • I didn’t read your asian “intelligent” post.  You don’t know what paragraphs are and you people are supposed to be smart?

      • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

        Japan is the only Asian country that does not have more men than women.
        That’s because virtually all the ambulatory men of that country were slaughtered in the Second World War.  There was also no post-war baby boom in Japan.  That’s why the demographic crush is falling on them first out of all the developed nations.

        • crystal evans

           What I meant was this. Japan is the only country that does not have the skewed sex ratios of males and females that other Asian countries do. There is no indication of female gendercide as has been reported in India, China, Korea and Vietnam, where there are less female births than male.

      • I’m on beer number two now and a little nicer so let’s see if I can answer you without being snotty.

        Confucinism – Yes, they’re confused, I know.  Seriously, you shouldn’t have to work yourself to death and Asians are not the only people who believe in hard work.  The White Peoples believe in hard work and they work hard.  That is why Europe and America Exist.

        White Women were not bred to be subservient but somehow, we also believe in staying home and raising our Children while our Husbands go off to work.  What’s your point?

        If the Japs are low on Births, they’ll do something about it.  No how, no way are the Japs about to let themselves die off.  I wouldn’t worry about that if I were you.

        And the Koreans are right to be upset and so should your People.  I don’t lump Asians together.  Korean is Korean, Japanese is Japanese and Chinese is Chinese.  Everyone should be stickin’ to their own kind and I’m so rigid on this, I apply it to Europeans too.

        • crystal evans

           Your problem is that you do not know the difference between Asians and Asian Americans. Many Asian Americans such as Japanese Americans and others such as Chinese, Filipinos and Korean Americans do not speak a word of their native languages any more because many generations of their families have settled in the US and each generation speaks the native language less than the last one. These Asian Americans have completed college and have professional careers and have assimalated well into American society.

          • My “problem”?  No ma’am, it’s problemS.  My whole life is a problem.  Some people need a face lift but I need a Life Lift!

            Looky here, first off, Asians haven’t been here for as long as you would like me to believe.  The mass majority of them came after ’65 so you’re not “generations and generations”.  Only Americans have been here for that long and longer.

            language – a few can’t speak their native tongue but most of them do.  Let me re-phrase that:  All the Asians I’ve ever been around have never spoken English unless they’re forced to communicate in English.  Driver’s License Tests are even printed in their Asian Languages.  I’ve seen them for myself.  I don’t know if all States do it but Des Moines, IA definitely does.

            assimilated – a few have but most have not.  You have to be fair Young Lady and admit, “Asian-Americans” vary greatly in terms of assimilation.  Too many have brought Asia here.

            educated/careers – And Americans have done?  What have Americans done Ms. Crystal?  Lay on our asses and did nothing?  This part is especially concerning given the Minority Privilege.

          • crystal evans

             Not so. My family and many others came in the early 1900’s. The first Asians came to the US in the 1840’s These were Chinese railroad workers in California.. So not all of us are new immigrants as you want to believe. To me ,Japan is a foreign country. The only similarity is that we look alike. I do not speak Japanese at all.  In fact, the first immigration law in the US was against Asians and it was called the Asian Exclusion Act of 1924. This  prohibited Asian immigration as well the immigration of Middle Easterners and South Asians. This also affected Europeans in that the quotas were cut from 3% to 2%of the number of people from Southern and Eastern European countries who were already living in the US. This was law until 1952 when the Immigration and  Nationality Act established quotas for each region of the world and for the first made special provision for those of exceptional skill and ability and for relatives of US citizens who were now not subject to any quotas.

    • WhiteGuyInJapan

       “[I]f asians really are smarter than White People, why can’t they fix their
      own Countries and why, why do they have to come to White Countries in
      order to learn from White Books?  ”

      If I stood on the sidewalk handing out money, you would take it, no?  You’d think me a fool, but you’d take my money. 

      Recently, there has been a move among some East Asians and Indians to go back to their respective home countries.  Generally after receiving an education and some professional experience, mind you.  Sorry, can’t find the link right now.

      • No, I would not take your money because My Mother told me to NEVER take money or candy from strangers and to NEVER hitchhike.  She died when I was ten years old so it’s one of the very few things I have from her and I hang onto it.  I also would not take your money because it’s just not right.  It’s not right.  I am however, willing to clean your house, mow your lawn, balance your checkbook, do your accounting for you, run your errands, iron your clothes, in short, I’m, certainly willing to work for it.
        Please find the link because I’d like to see that.  This is something I’d be happy to pay Taxes for.

        • WhiteGuyInJapan


          New York Times covered this recently.  I’m not sure you would need to pay taxes to get them to go back, they seem to be doing it on their own for various personal/professional reasons.

          Sad thing is that these individuals seem like rather bright and capable people.  (I know, the article cherry-picked them.) They leave the US and the unskilled ditch-diggers seem to keep coming in.

          • The dregs keep pouring in because our destruction is on purpose.  Same for Europe.

            As so many other Highly Intelligent White Posters have written:  No other Countries (all non-white) are forced to do this to themselves and as a matter of fact, they all have policies in place to prevent it.  There can be only one reason for that…

    • JohnEngelman

      Go to a department store and see where most of the items are manufactured. China out competes us economically, while buying our national debt. For several decades the Japanese have been able to make better cars, motor cycles, and consumer electronic goods than we can. Increasingly, the Chinese can make them as good and cheaper.

      • Were you White, I’d say you truly are a lost cause but since you’re an asian, I can understand why you try so desperately to defend your race.

        Americans did not hand over our Country to Asia and their junk, Traitors did.  You know them as Corporate, Congress and The White House.

        You do know that space heaters, stoves, refrigerators, etc. that were American Made still work don’t you?  I’m talking about stuff that was made back in the Twenties and Thirties now.  How do I know this?  I had them when I lived with my ex-boyfriend.

    • The

      I can relate to your question in this scenario. No matter how smart one can be, no matter how much one can change the world view from his philosophical point of view or novel innovation, as long as there is suppression from top, corrupt system, one can only go as far as the system allows them to pursue. Let’s just track back to British era. 

      During British Empire overtaking the world by colonizing the other parts of the world, their priority was to take over other lands in the names of Religious propaganda or christian dissemination. Majority of mission was executed via building missionary Church and such. Everything against Pope and Church was assumed defamatory action and prosecuted as accordingly. So when Galileo claim the Earth revolts around the Sun, he was arrested. By the time “Science” expeditions came into innovation scenes of the world (of course after industralization era), there’s so much clash between established Church and aspiring scientists of the future. 

      In order to make it short, with such prevailing circumstances in Europe (Whites dominant country), and a new found land, A New World, was coincidentally discovered by Columbus, situation becomes clearer, whoever wants freedom, whoever pursue their dreams, be it science or philosophy, they all came to the new found land, and built United States of America. There had been colonial war in New England territory, civil wars and such. But the main point here is majority of innovation, advancement were then continuously created in this land, North America. 

      Coming back to our questions of “Why if asians really are smarter than White People, why can’t fix their own Countries and why, why do they have to come to White Countries in order to learn from White Books?” If you think about it carefully, assuming Whites are smart too, why can’t they create, innovate, achieve as much as when they were in British Empire? or whatever that may be in Pope era when Religion so much influence the way one thinks and the way one behaves? It’s because whenever there’s a barrier or suppression from Top, one can’t achieve his/her potential. Only when there’s a freedom of thinking and choice, one can pursue their preferences and dreams. So there’s no brainer that US produces more Nobel Laureates than anyone combined in Europe. Although Nobel winner is not an ultimate goal of indicating one achievement, at least we can use it here as a bench mark for achievement. 

      Why Asians can’t fix their own Countries?
      When we talk about Asians, we mostly refer those asians from China, Vietnam, or South East Asians, well South Korea at least. Why? If you think about it, there are corrupt politicians, suppression from top, bribery, nepotism prevalent in those countries. Not to mention there are also shady politicians in US as well. But in order of magnitude, it’s still less in US. In such a circumstance, one can’t easily achieve one’s own dreams. Even if you try to overturn the system, you’ll be shackled in jails and such. So who else could fix that system? It’s aristocracy rather than meritocracy. So whoever Asians aspire to achieve their dreams, they come to US and try their best, work their butts off, toil for years to reach a better social status. 

      So that would explain your question of “Why Asians can’t fix their own countries?” It’s not about fixing, it’s about the system where there’re guns and grenades behind the power, no one can fix that. That’s why, by the time US was built, they’re so much afraid of religious suppression and un-checked tyranny, 2nd Amendment was introduced into US constitution that allows every law abiding US citizen to hold the gun. Just google 1. China Tianmen Square massacre, 2. Indonesian tyrant Suhato, 3. 88 uprising in Burma and such. You’ll get the idea. 

      US is the land where everybody dreams have been liberated. But lately with Republican and Democrats fighting each other for holding White house rather than for general public goods and such, foregone American Dreams have been a glory of the past, rather than present dreams one can achieve. With a recent outbreak of Asian American Jeremy Lin in NBA, it seems American Dreams have been resurrected for a moment, at least. 

  • JohnEngelman

    People who are that intelligent do not need to cheat. 

    • StivD

      But they always need to study to the point of exhaustion and a total lack of a personal life. They don’t have many dimensions to them.

  • mikejones91

    This proves what WE have been saying ALL along. Blacks aren’t oppressed, by whites anyway. They are oppressed by black people. Their culture/rap music, so MANY different things. Rap music is the soundtrack to THEIR anti-social behavior. People of color aren’t discriminated against. Blacks just have this victim mentality that comes out as a crutch whenever they fail. Which is often. Besides, who is doing the oppressing against blacks? It’s certainly not me. I have been on vacation for the past year courtesy of the NATIONAL WHITE PRIVILEGE TRUST FUND. See I just turned 18 so obviously, I got my share of the NWPTF. Maybe their is a caucus dedicated to the oppresion of blacks. That’s why AIDS was “created”, to take out the black race. I guess social welfare programs/Affirmative Action/EVERYTHING ELSE contradicts the white mans intention of erasing the black race—Or maybe, it’s just a crock.

  • Church_of_Jed

    White oppression is advancing them forward, because when Whites are forced to choose Diversity, their racism tells them to choose Asians, who score highly on White biased standardized tests, instead of the blacks who are “entitled” to more.

  • Of course not.  To shine a light on that would put them dead last.

    • JohnEngelman

      You say it, but you don’t believe it. 

      • Of course I believe it.  I only need to look at their Countries to know it’s True but you, you’re a liar and a deliberate one at that.

        • Sherman_McCoy

          You know I love you, Steph, but let’s not exaggerate.  NOBODY finishes last behind the bantus.  Not even cheating asians.

          • And I Love You!  Yes, of course you’re right.  I get snippy with Mr. John because for years now, he’s never answered my questions.  He just repeats his beliefs, to be fair, we all do but he won’t answer my questions and I cannot help but feel he does this on purpose for to do so would mean his admitting that Asia has its share of problems too.

  • Church_of_Jed

    Asians Abandoned

    Race hustling living legend and civil rights icon who sued Sandy Springs for being “too White” and told the nation that “White must do right” now demands more black judges, even though race is just a social construct, unless you are black, then its blatant and Fed. enforced Diversity privilege.

    Groups call for more diversity on Fulton bench

    Obviously, White Guv’nuh of Ga. is a racist, because he still has standards, albeit diluted by his Diversity worship-

    “The governor celebrates the diversity of our vibrant state and he’s appointed African-Americans and other minorities to the important positions,” Robinson said. “Governor Deal takes into consideration the importance of diversity in his appointments, but his first priority is selecting first-rate jurists.”

  • I’d like to see Amren take stuff like this and follow it up with some Real Truth about these Third World Aliens.  They could start with the cheating like Conan mentioned.

    Or even better, compare White Men Accomplishments to theirs as you mentioned.

  • JohnEngelman

    IQ tests measure intelligence and predict real life success. The races differ in brain size and on IQ tests. On average Orientals have the largest brains and highest IQs. Blacks average the lowest, and Whites fall in between. The brain size differences explain the IQ differences both within 
    groups and between groups…
    Orientals average 1 cubic inch more brain matter than Whites.
    – Professor J. Philippe Rushton       
    Professor Rushton has spoken at American Renaissance conferences.

    • APaige

      Is there a measurement for creativity or original thinking? I cannot think of any Asian invention since…gunpowder? If it was not for Western Civilization what would Asians be smart at?

      • Mark Schmidt

        Well, here’s a couple…footbinding and the bubonic plague?

        Anyway, seriously, I generally have little problem with orientals. I have a huge problem with white men who date and marry oriental women, and then point the finger at white women with black men.

        I detest hypocrisy.

        • StivD

          Spaghetti too?

          • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

            You think people who eat with sticks, invented something that takes a fork to eat?
            – Tony Soprano

          • The__Bobster

            And they didn’t even invent SpaghettiOs. 😉

        • Yeah, but many Whites don’t see Asian women (and men) as a threat. It’s Blacks who they can’t stand.

          Though, I agree with comment about Derbyshire. Just- silly it may sound- man was in love ….

      • JohnEngelman

        They would be smart at anything they chose to study. 

        • StivD

          Great, so they have good study habits and have to keep at it constantly to compete with whites. 

      • ncpride

        I hear they are experts at reverse engineering others technolgy…?

    • The__Bobster

      Shall we examine one of your “smart” asians, Yuan?

      Mao Sugiyama, a self-described “asexual” from Tokyo, cooked up, seasoned and served his own genitalia to five diners at a swanky banquet in Japan last month.

      Sugiyama sparked a firestorm of interest on April 8 with one tweet:”[Please retweet] I am offering my male genitals (full penis, testes, scrotum) as a meal for 100,000 yen …

      Will prepare and cook as the buyer requests, at his chosen location.”

      • StivD

        They do often have these twisted practices and ways of looking at sex, food….

  • How many Chinamen have been on the moon?  Why does China have to steal all of our military technology?  Why is almost all of Japan’s technology based on Western technology?  If the Asian countries and peoples are so awesome WHY are they immigrating here in record numbers?  I wonder what the average IQ is of those 500 MILLION or so rural Chinese peasants, you know the ones that are NOT ALLOWED to move into the cities!  And let’s not forget all of those brilliant Indians who have somehow neglected to provide access to toilets for over HALF of their 1 billion + people.

    • Mark Schmidt

      Generally speaking all of the ‘oriental’ nations are doing pretty well and have modern cities – I’ve visited Singapore, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and was much impressed…..the laggard over the past half-century was China, and they are catching  up fast. North Korea is obviously a basketcase —but communism obviously has a good deal to do with that.

      Even Vietnam (not, strictly speaking NE Asian) is starting to improve.

    • StivD

      The Indians still take ritual baths in Ganges, among the corpses, to ‘cleanse’ themselves too. 

  • Frosty_The_White_Man

    East Asians should be called BODs (Brides Of Derbyshire). All hail the BOD overloads! See right there? IQ isn’t raycizz anymore! Now we can hold a conference without getting beaten up! Omg yay us lol!

    • Mark Schmidt

      Agree entirely. I don’t have too much of a problem with orientals, but really we should not be breeding with them. Oriental women can look pretty, but let them retain their unique beauty, and we whites should retain ours.

      Coffee and beer are each great in themselves and have their unique characteristics and flavours. Mix them together and you have something undrinkable.

      John Derbyshire really is the archetypal ugly white man who could only ever get an oriental woman to find him attractive.

  • crystal evans

     You are right about keeping Asian nations keeping 3rd world immigrants out. A good example of this is a Filipina maid in Hong Kong that applied for a residency permit that would enable her to live in Hong Kong. She had been working there as a maid since 1986. A lower Hong Kong court found that she was eligible for the Residency permit since she had lived in Hong Kong for more than seven years. Her claim was denied on appeal because the government feared that the families of the maids would also immigrate to Hong Kong and would cause a huge drain on their resources,

  • crystal evans

     Because Asians make good tech coolies but are not trained to think creatively. They are good at fixing computers but are not so good at coming up with new innovations to make the computers better. I had a Korean roommate once that succeeded in school because she memorized the textbooks. She had problems with writing in English and I wondered if she knew what she was memorizing, but it was a survival tactic for her to succeed in school.

  • Johnny Reb

    First observation:  The southern asians . . . Vietnamese, Hmong, Laotian, Cambodians, Thai and Burmese . . . are the negroes of Asia.  No surprise to find them ranking last.

    Second observation:  No surprise to find that strong family and social units based on RACIAL HOMOGENEITY produce intelligent and competitive children.

    Don’t look at this as some clumsy attempt to make whites appear lower than the oriental . . . instead, look at this as a confirmation of what we have been saying.

    Remember what the German state accomplished in just a few years after choosing the racially-aware Nazi Party.

    Give whites an opportunity to LIVE AND ACT WHITE IN A PRO-WHITE NATION . . . and watch us surpass the asian, jew, brown, black or any other racial group.


  • crystal evans

     Asians are seen as a minority for SBA loans but they are not considered a minority for scholarships and affirmative action for entrance in to law, medicine, pharmacy or any other profession as blacks and hispanics are.

  • Johnny Reb

    I regarded this silly article as a reminder of what whites COULD do without the curse of multiculturalism. 

    Insular asian families and communities produce competitive off-spring.  Invaded families and communities produce . . . well, whatever it is we whites are producing today.

    All roads lead back to racialism and eventual white supremacy as the answer.

  • I disagree but then again, I’m White and I don’t believe in overcrowded Streets like they are in the places you name.

    I also don’t care for the slavery, both labor and sexual, they absolutely believe in and practice to the hilt.  Nor do I believe they built anything given how America gives them Aide.European (going, going…) and what used to be, American Cities are the most Beautiful and most advanced.

    Tell me this instead:  Why aren’t you living in one of those “most impressive” cities you’re fawning over?  It’s always the same with you people.  You wish to push your asian crap on people who do not want it.  Go live there and leave us alone already.

  • Is that what all those scholarships based on their asian ethnicity is about?

    Always and Forever, COMPLETELY IGNORE all the evils in those Countries you love so much.  Go convince your fellow asian lovers because you’re wasting your time with me.

  • That’s right, don’t address my points, just deflect.  This is why you people will never get me to listen to you.

    • JohnEngelman

      Your basic point is that you dislike Orientals. I admire them for reasons I have been able to express quoting Jared Taylor, Professor Rushton who has spoken at AR conferences, and articles that have been posted on this website.  

      Orientals deserve their description as “the ideal minority.” They are a gifted, accomplished race. The women are beautiful. 

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    I agree. My response to this article was “who cares?”.

  • StivD

    There was a Japanese scientist around the time of the second world war who floated the idea of whites and Japanese intermarrying and creating a super race of obedient little cogs. I can’t remember his name at all, but I think that is exactly what certain people on AR want: a hybrid with all the individualism and Western spirit, for lack of another word, bred out.  A lesser personality and less variation in thinking and expression of thought. 

  • StivD

    Orientals are usually one dimensional. They are good at taking direction and technical thinking and not much else. They are geared only towards obedience. That’s one reason you’ll never see Orientals that can create the finer things in life that make life worth living, instead of merely existing. There is no real example of a Chinese or Japanese Renaissance or depth of thought like the Enlightenment.  Their philosophers can’t compete with the Greeks, etc, etc.

    Sorry, but they often seem like digital people to me. They don’t even appear to have a full range of emotions. I DON’T want whites to ever learn that from them, no matter what. It’s just another form of giving ourselves up;  but this time instead of blacks it’s Asians , et al.


  • StivD

    To top it all off, most of the productivity that people go on and on about in China is geared toward making total junk to put on the market. They don’t do high quality. 

    Some of it is toxic, dangerous junk too.

  • Why do I have to do your work for you people?  Aren’t you supposed to be “smarter”?  Here ya go you “intelligent” asian you:

    p.s.  All you gotta do is look.  It’s real easy…  Oh wait, it was EXTREMELY hard for me to find because, well, because I’m White and not as smart as you people…. 

  • StivD

    If they’re discriminated against in the U.S. the have an out: they can always go home. Whites do not have an out or alternative. That is the point; we now have to include them in our legitimate concerns?


    • crystal evans

       What about fourth or fifth generation Japanese Americans who have no ties to Japan? They cannot speak the language and are not familiar with the culture of Japan. The only similarities that they have with the Japanese population is that they may have the same last names and look alike but this is where the similarity ends.

  • ncpride

    Well, we do have to give credit to thoes Native born Germans from Germany, who came here after WW2 and played a MAJOR role in the first moon landing.  Still, that brilliance came from White minds but I thought they deserved a shout out.

  • And why was that?  Could it be because American Manufacturing was much faster than theirs?  Germans are perfectionists and perfection takes time.  America, while I Love her to Death, simply produced faster.  I’m talking about Military Weaponry.

    • Sherman_McCoy

      Please check out Pat Buchanan’s excellent book, “Churchill, Hitler, and the Unnecessary War”” for another look at why Germany lost the war. 

      • I have that book but haven’t read it.  I’ll start reading it within the next few days.  I must admit, it hurts me to read anything about White Men killing other White Men.  I have a real problem with that.

  • Yes, “you people”.  It is you and people like you aka “you people” who constantly put Third World People above and over your own.

    race realists – No you’re not.  You are nothing but another phoney baloney who claims to be for White People as long as it’s blacks and hispanics you get to complain about.

    You consider selling children to child molesters as being “right”?  You’re sick.  Japan has sex slavery too and you would “jump at the chance” to work there.  Okay.

    economy – And with GREAT THANKS to White People.  When Asian Countries stop accepting Aide from America, then we’ll talk about their economy and how they did it all on their own.

    protecting race – Oh indeed!  They have their own museums dedicated to their race in MY Country and guess what they don’t talk about in those museums?  And guess who was forced to help pay for them?

    Oh My God.  Legalizing Prostitution has NOTHING to do with slavery.  Also, I was talking about children but since you bring it up, yes, they enslave women too.

  • Asians have plenty of Privilege and it’s not right.

    not much to fix – The hell there isn’t!  There are far too many people living in abject poverty over there for me to believe you.  Why are the people who don’t live in the cities never considered?  Why?  Do they not count?  They may not count to you but they count to me.

    crime free – Really?  Somehow, I doubt that.

    Public Transportation – I don’t know and I don’t care.  For me, it takes much more than being able to transport people from one Street to another in order for me to say they’re good.  I want them to get real.  Stop leaving your masses in the boonies to slowly starve to death.

  • Sherman_McCoy

    I admire the Japanese for keeping Japan for themselves.  And those big rubber monsters.  That Datsun 240Z was pretty sweet, too.

    The Koreans are also quite racist. That in itself is praiseworthy.

    I think we whites and certain orientals should admire each other. From afar.

  • Sherman_McCoy

    Superior IQ does not automatically equate to superior morality.  

    There are also differing types of IQ.  Bantus, for example have been shown to have superior IQs in the areas of rhythm and mimicry, just like their cousins the apes.  The Ashkenazim are quite gifted in the creative arts and verbal acuity.  Certain Asian groups seem to have higher IQ measurements in quantitative skills.

    But, for the optimal and most pleasing and useful mixture of the various types of IQ, coupled with a truly superior culture and morality, give me the white race any day.

  • chitownkp

    Note to community: In not one of her millions of nasty postings here on has Stephanie Galonska ever had something of value or insight to ad to the conversation. You, Galonska, are truly nothing but an ignorant, backwards-thinking, ugly troll of the worst kind. 
    Proud Conservative & US Veteran, Chicago  

    GO MIAMI HEAT !!!                 

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    From the Washington Post:

    “China is the leading source of what are known as “junk” patents — ridiculous claims of “inventions” that are little more than snake-oil scams.”

    “Plagiarism and doctored results seem to be as common as chopsticks. A study by Wuhan University uncovered an entire industry of bogus report and thesis writers who raked in $145 million last year, a fivefold increase since 2007.”

    FBI officials allege that there is a large-scale operation in the United States to pilfer American industrial, scientific, technological and military secrets. In the past few years, dozens of Chinese have been convicted of stealing American technology and shipping it to China.


  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Or this…

    A recent investigation by the U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services found more than one million counterfeit Chinese parts in the Department of Defense supply chain. 


  • The__Bobster
  • The__Bobster

    We need her posts to balance out the Sinophile males here with Yellow Fever.

    • Thank You Sir!  It’d sure be nice if people could explain to me why it is My Duty to like things/people that don’t help me and aren’t a part of My Culture.  Why do I have to admire people who are utterly opposite of me in everything from Language, Values, Beliefs, Traditions and Religion?

      • JohnEngelman

        Orientals value hard work, achievement, tradition, obedience to the law, and loyalty to the family, especially elders. 

        • CourtneyfromAlabama

          You still haven’t explained why Stephanie should have to admire Asians if she doesn’t want to. Do you support thought police?

        • JohnEngelman

          Stephanie makes is clear that she dislikes anyone who is not of European descent. I am not telling her that she should admire Orientals. I am telling her why I do. Orientals have high average IQs, and low rates of crime and illegitimacy. What’s not to like? 

        • Keep dreaming asian.

          If asians cared about their elderly, they’d pay for them but no, who gets that “honor”?  WHITE Tax Paying Americans is who.

          hard work – Yup, they work hard at cheating us and taking over everything White People built.

          loyalty – Oh definitely!  That’s why they “employ” their little children and elderly parents/grandparents…

  • You have problems understanding my writing.  There is a difference between dislike and hate but that seems to go right over your head.

    What I don’t like is hearing how a People are more Intelligent when I see the opposite.  Were people Honest about people, I’d be calmer and nicer but no, they always have to make it look like White People come second to others who clearly, as a whole, are not better.

    have a feeling – You’re right and I feel that way because they always say Asians are better than Whites.  They don’t define anything, it’s just, they’re better and it does paint White People in a bad light.  It’s meant to do that.  What do you call it when these types of Articles always put White People second?  The two best areas in the World are White but do they ever talk about that?  Testing Scores is what they talk about and that’s not proof for me.  Cheating is rampant so these numbers are false.

    should be – NO, it is not my Duty to admire anyone.  I’m American and nowhere in My Constitution does it say that I need to admire Asians.  I like stuff invented by White People and this makes me, what?  “hateful”?  Seems to me it is you who hates.  Last time I checked, I’m allowed to like whatever and whoever I want and for whatever reason(s) I want.

    last five – You write this as if White People were below Asians.  This is the kind of stuff I’m talking about.  You say this is as if we excelled because we got everything from them.

    You really do have comprehension problems.  I have asked questions which none of you admirers have ever answered.  You point out the “good” which is never defined by the way, and I ask questions which never get answered and now you dare to get on me.

    Last, you, like so many others, are saying ALL Asians have/try to which I say, NO, not ALL Asians.

    • RationalBeing

      Very few people claim that Asians or Orientals are better than whites.   Perhaps you can clarify by specifying who, exactly, says that.

      Saying that Orientals are generally more intelligent than most whites isn’t saying that they’re better.  Whites are decidedly more creative and have created a better civilization.  I think most of us are agreed on that.

      This doesn’t mean that all of us have to adopt the same anti-Oriental approach that characterize many of your postings.  I think that to do so simply plays into the hands of people who think of this as nothing more than a hate site, which this isn’t.

      Saying positive things about other races where such things are merited does not mean that one is not being pro-white, nor is it required that one paint everyone who is not white in the same color. 

      As for the argument that postings that are anti-Oriental are needed to balance the postings that are pro-Oriental, a simple count of the messages regarding this article shows that most messages are in fact not favorable to Orientals.  No minds are likely to be changed because a minority viewpoint is expressed.  Indeed, many will take the emotional view that whites are in fact disparaged whenever anything good is pointed out in other races, and very few regulars who post here bother to defend Orientals because of that fact.

      Finally, I myself have stated that Orientals had a good civilization for quite a long time before white civilization took over the world (metaphorically speaking).  It would be illogical, however, to assume that this means that whites copied from Orientals in any way in order to achieve this civilization.  I made no such claim; in fact, both civilizations evolved more-or-less independently.  A simple look at the differences between white and Oriental values makes such a conclusion highly dubious.  No such conclusion was or reasonably should be implied.

      • You and John Engleman for two and going forward, I will write down the names since you need to know.  Don’t you read?  You should already know who they are.  I don’t memorize people’s names or their posts. I said what I said because there are people here who always jump on the Asian Bandwagon anytime Articles like this come out.

        You can say Asians are smarter all you want and I will continue to say they aren’t.  You can’t be more Intelligent than White People yet be that dumb at the same time.  If they were smarter than White People, it would have been them who created/invented all the things White Men did.  This is just Common Sense.

        Who said people need to be like me?  If you can’t be Honest about my writings, you need to stop replying to my posts.

        hate – You’re really hung up on “hate”.  Seems to me that because you can’t get me to come over to your side, you keep repeating “hate” when you damn good and well, NO ONE has ever written the word “hate” when speaking of Asians.  You are being disingenuous every time you do that.

        I’m beginning to be done with you because you’re being completely dishonest.  I write my opinions and what I know to be True and you say that if people agree with me then that makes this a “hate” site.  Shame on you.

        As Stiv D said, there are far too many problems to be fixing right now and there is no time to sit back and admire a people who helps us none.  As for your accusation about painting people with the same brush, this is just another attempt by you to make me look like something I’m not.  Dispute the things I’ve written if I’m so wrong.  You don’t dispute me because there’s nothing to dispute.  You’re trying to get me to worship what you worship and because you can’t, you repeatedly throw the word “hate” around.

        Whoa, wait just a daggone minute!  How dare you!  The White Peoples are CONSTANTLY Disparaged and Discriminated against and on a Daily Basis too and you DARE to deny this?

        The emotional part probably comes into play because forever and ever, it’s always Asians who get to be praised while The White Peoples still get No Credit for anything.  It gets old and people get sick of it.  Let me re-phrase that, I get sick of it.

        Last, as far as I’m concerned, you can’t be Creative without being Intelligent.  You seem to want to separate these two things and I say they can’t be.

  • They are unassimilable due to different phenotype. Period.

    • StivD

      If anyone doesn’t have to worry about race replacement and dwindling numbers it’s the Chinese and Indians. That’s why I don’t understand why they have to be discussed at all, really. 

  •  Weber’s thesis on Protestant ethic has long since been demolished (see, for instance, a very good book by otherwise too liberal Jacques Barzun, “From Dawn to Decadence”). Other than that, US successes in late 19th & most of 20th century have had not much connection with any religiously oriented ethical system.

    • StivD

      The work ethic in the U.S. became ” you work for me to make me rich” not to advance and improve yourself anymore. That’s very similar to the Japanese system. 

    • Woody Woodpecker

      I respectfully disagree.

      My statement about the Protestant work ethic is based on life experience, not books.
      The ethic lives on in many, though the religious aspect may have died out.


    Starting over here (no reply button).  I’m against the Chinese and Indians more than the Japanese too so here we agree but, I remember when some Japanese Executives came over, I don’t remember from which Bank, either TCSB or Mizuho but anyway, they were not allowed to go explore America (shopping) but they did anyway and they didn’t want to go back.  They were very happy here during their short stay and they were nice too.  I felt sorry for them.

    Here’s another reason why I have a problem with Japan:  They had software created so that it would shave off the last digit of every customer’s account.  The customers would never notice because it’s less than a penny but it adds up for the Bank (TCSB I think it was).  I found this to be highly unethical and I didn’t like it.

    I also don’t like how they took away duties from the employee who cost Mizuho Billions via entering too many digits (fat fingered).  Instead of firing him and letting him go somewhere else (I’m sure he learned his lesson), they stuck him in the corner.  Everyone knew he was the one and he was made to be shamed.  I don’t believe in that.  Let people learn and move on.  People don’t need to pay forever for their mistakes.  I call that Cruel and Unusual Punishment.

    Now here’s something I do like about Japan:  If a Chef accidentally kills someone via Puffer Fish, they don’t go to Jail, they lose their License to cook Puffer Fish.


    I find it insulting because you won’t acknowledge White People, answer my questions and you won’t acknowledge any of the downfalls about Asia.  If you would just balance it, it’d be easier for me to accept you.


    I don’t care Sir.  I’m not the kind of person to be against what my people do while ignoring what others do to my people.  All is fair in Love and War they say.  If the Japanese are not called out for what they did to us, you can’t call out Americans for what they did neither.

  • StivD

    I’m well aware that Indians are not oriental.

  • StivD

    If it helps in showing some respect to the Japanese; the first movie I saw when I was four years old was Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster. They had a marathon of Godzilla movies. I learned a lot about pollution and how to chant for Godzilla in a theater full of other kids.

    • It’s not about Japanese- they don’t immigrate to the US en masse. Unlike the Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Indians, Pakistanis, …

      • StivD

        It was a lil’ joke..

        • And, by the way- I cheered for Godzilla…. Just, I wonder- how on earth did Tokyo recover ?

  • I disagree.  If they came here to learn from us, they’d take it, go home and apply it but they don’t.  Maybe a few do but the majority of them do not.  They stay here and take full advantage of the all Non-White Privilege that catapults them right to the top while White Men still get nothing.

    take long view – I’m not gonna do that.  There’s nothing they have that I’m interested in.  And, the only “potential” I see is us being cast down to the lowest rung of the Societal Ladder once they’ve finished taking over America.

    Answer this:  Why should I be happy to never be able to find an American Owned Hotel or Dunkin’ Donuts?  Why should I be happy that India(ns) make more more money than Americans?  Why should I be happy to never find an American Owned Convenience Store?  Why should I be happy to have Asian Heritage Months while White People get none?

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Posters like you constantly enjoy indirectly mocking the pride of whites in their civilization by making it sound as if we sat around for most of history, copying all our science from Asia, and then suddenly….BOOM….the Industrial Revolution happened. At first I thought it was the Renaissance, and now people like you enjoy pushing the white explosion to as late in history as the 1800s. The fact of the matter is that science has always been a European creation which is something that even non race realist historians agree with me on. Compare what the Greeks did with science to what the Chinese did with it during their entire existence. Yes, the Chinese had great organizational skills and produced some technology and math, but even the most primitive civilizations had some math and technology. Posters like you need to learn that science is a completely unique field and it was developed almost entirely in Europe.

    • RationalBeing

      Courtney, I’ve never claimed that science was anything other than developed in Europe and the United States.  Science and modern technology enabled Europe and the United States to spread white influence far beyond the original borders whence they came.

      If you claim that I have stated that it was developments in the late 1800’s that allowed white civilization to dominate the world, please note that I’ve never made that claim.  The scientific method can be traced before that era. 

      Perhaps you may be referring to various references to the Industrial Revolution.  The Industrial Revolution, which had roots in Britain in the 1700’s, did in fact allow white technology to pursue a course that was destined to take over the world, metaphorically speaking.  However, a more nuanced view must acknowledge that even that owed a debt to prior centuries in Europe.  I have never claimed otherwise.

      It is also a straw man argument to claim that posters who are like me claim that whites copied important advances; if such posters have made such claims, they are their claims alone, and not mine.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        Thanks for the clarification. I remember a previous time when you were on here supporting posters who said what I mention above. And even if you didn’t say any of those things inparticular this time, your post still easily conveys the same ideas.

  • Hmm… I’m not sure whether Jared Taylor is so fond of Asians because he’s a true believer in IQ religion, or simply because this is a good shield or deflecting rod from being called racist & at the same time enabling him to say the right stuff about Blacks & Mestizos- numerically & societally more threatening minorities, at least for the time being.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    We don’t have to admire anybody who we don’t wish to. Do you think we should have thought police? Every other race is arrogant without earning it in the first place. It is time for whites to be arrogant as well. At least we are the most deserving of it.

    • Ms. Courtney, what is “race-realism”?  I thought it was being real about race as in, Whites have Rights too but it appears to mean that I am supposed to admire a people who have done nothing for me or my Country.

      I’m not trying to be arrogant as Rational Being likes to think.  I’m tired of people telling me I need to fawn over their preferred non-whites while ignoring the fact that our People go without in our very own Country.  If that’s “arrogant”, then I say, so be it.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        I wasn’t arguing with you, I was arguing with rational being.

        • I know that!  I was asking you what a “race-realist” was because I trust you for one and I find you to be Very Intelligent for two.  I’m on your side!

          Rational Being calls himself a “race-realist” yet I don’t think his way of thinking is that of a “race-realist”.

  • StivD

    “Anti-oriental for the sake of being anti-oriental”

    No, more like wanting to focus on whites and the problems we are facing right now. There are things to think about that are far more urgent than admiring Oriental culture. 

    White people discussing and sharing info. With other white people is what’s needed, including getting more whites to acknowledge our similarities as a people and shared concerns, building a new white community. Holding up the accomplishments of any other race at this time is just an intrusion. 

    Who knows, maybe you should start in Bangkok and work your way up thru the hierarchy of Asian nations.

    • StivD

      Hmm, for some reason I can’t go back and edit my comment for a small error or two.

      Check to see if you’re logged into your Disqus account. — Moderator

  • This is from CHITOWNKP:  Note to community: In
    not one of her millions of nasty postings here on has Stephanie
    Galonska ever had something of value or insight to ad to the conversation.
    You, Galonska, are truly nothing but an ignorant, backwards-thinking,
    ugly troll of the worst kind. Sincerely, Proud Conservative & US Veteran, Chicago

    I couldn’t find this post on this thread but my response is:  “millions”?  Okay Dokey Smokey!  “ad” should be spelled as “add” and trolls are cute so Thank You!  Are you one of my Beloved but Unknowing Democrat/Liberals from Politico?  Oh wait, this is Robert Griffith isn’t it?  You’re still mad at me I see…  You can’t really blame me in all fairness now.  I too am but a Human Being and I, like everyone else, also get frustrated.  When White Men get their Proper Due, I’ll stop my “ignorant, backwards-thinking” and “ugly” trolling.

  • FWG,

    I will never talk about the Ails within the White Community because you people never talk about the Ails within the Asian one.  And for the last time, NO, I will not admire a people just because you say I should.

    Tell me this:  Why am I not allowed to like/admire what or who I want?  Is this America or not?


    Have a Great Day at work!  And, have yourself a very nice Memorial Weekend too!

    STIV D,

    You or any one or all of my Favorite People here can Lead me (in regards to ringleader comment).  I’d be Honored to be led by people like you.

  • RationalBeing

    If Orientals control white countries, they will certainly promote Orientals over whites.

    They are consummate race realists, if history is any guide.  And it is.

  • Hey Mate!

    Thank You and I could not agree with you more but, you left out Europe! but I know what you mean..

    Yeah GM, I cannot, for the life of me, understand why I need to accept/admire/respect Asians, I mean, Orientals in order not to be “hateful” or well rounded or….  Why can’t I just be concerned for our own people and our Countries?

  • Did I write something that said otherwise?  If I did, allow me to apologize in advance ’cause that is not my goal.  I’m a Die Hard Free Speech Person.  I’m not always precise in my writing.  I have a tendency to assume people know what I’m talking about and sometimes, probably many times, I come off as being cold.
    As far as “forced” goes, “We” are forced to pay for a bunch of stuff everyone, both White and Non-White alike, don’t like and as far as I remember, that’s all I’ve ever talked about when speaking of “forced”.  Well, that and being forced to accept Foreigners because that too is True.Sir, I don’t want to dictate your Free Speech nor tell you who can or cannot like and I don’t want that done to me.  I guess my whole point about Asians or rather, Orientals is, well, there’s many but one is, I don’t like hearing about their Merits when I see none of them standing up and saying, ‘No Thank You, we don’t need any special privileges because for one, it’s Un American and two, we don’t need them.  We wish to be thought of and treated as Equals’.  I don’t see that and I have a problem with it.  I hope you can understand this.

    messages – I admit, I scan and don’t respond many times to both those I agree and disagree and even skip entire posts from people I’m mad at.  Mr. Kaldian is a fine example but I’m done being mad at him and have recently been reading/scanning his posts.

    Debate – I love it but I only post on two places (mass majority of the time) and the other is Politico.  I’ve been on Politico since 2007 and it’s probably because of the abuse I take from my little abusive children that I lose patience over here.  I am sorry about that.  I thought I’d be good here but, I was wrong.  What can I say?

  • White Dragon


    1. Have higher average IQ’s than Whites
    2. Have a stronger racial consciousness than Whites
    3. Are more collective than Whites
    4. Don’t spend their time blaming Whites for problems
    5. Are harder working
    6. Don’t believe in social welfare
    7. Don’t continually blame other races for their problems
    8. Don’t have forums ex. Stormfront, Whitenewsnow, Occidental Observer, AmRen etc. that always blame others.

    The Chinese are superior in so many ways.

    Whites are too individualistic.

    The only way Whites will win back a White America is to promote a culture of ‘sameness’. Individualism is destroying White cutures. Individualism is a kind of selfishness.

    Whites are creative, and pioneers. So What? What about creating a solution to improving Whites racial consciousness?

    My motto is: Save your race, don’t be different.

    Gary John

    • WhiteGuyInJapan

       From an evolutionary point of view, a group needs to replicate itself and protect its space and resources.   Whites and East Asians are not accomplishing the first overall and Whites are not protecting their own space.  East Asians do (thinking of Japan and the Koreas at this point) and so their domestic population fluctuations are fairly independent of other group’s birth rates.  In other words, they are not experiencing the vacuum effect like most Western countries.  But their populations are greying and shrinking.

      As far as creativity goes, that can be a double-edged sword.  Whites are/were  good at creating cutting-edge technology that pushed them ahead of other groups.  Now, Whites also excel at creating contradictory, self destructive philosophies.  What an achievement!

      I’m starting to think that the Caucasoid and Mongoloid groups are evolutionary outliers and that we are and will be seeing a regression to the (equatorial) mean.  This is not my ideal, just what I think is happening.

      While I’m at it, Derbyshire recently listed the advantages the Chinese have over the US.

    • The Chinese have their issues, everyone said Japan would become a superpower, never happened. Once the US economy crashes, it will take China’s with it, then there will be a huge civil war against the Communist regime. 
      Liberals and other races ARE our problems. After WW2 all western nations went crazy liberal and its been snowballing ever since. The welfare state started a socialist trend that slowly weakened our economies. Lately a mass influx of immigrants has further stressed our economies to the breaking point. Liberals are completely terrified that white people will regain our superiority complex and try to take over the world (again). They have gone way too far, neo-nazi groups are reporting record enrollments and non-liberal whites are more united than ever. Every white person in Europe and the US is complaining about 2 things, other races and the economy. I don’t know what the tipping point is, but when these related issues are resolved, whites will have racial unity like never before.

    Rushton – Because he says so, I’m supposed to just go along?  Perhaps you’re right, maybe Amren is not the place for me for I cannot understand why I need to take the time to reflect upon a people when my own is facing extinction.
    your second paragraph – Huh?  I’ve suggested people not frequent foreign-owned businesses and yes, I have my opinions and posted facts that can be easily found by even the most uneducated people (myself) but other than that, what have I done that is so wrong?
    impose – Okay.  I’ve been harsh.  I do apologize for that and I hope you will accept it.
    emotion – What would you prefer?  We be robots?  I can’t do that.  I can change my tone of writing/speaking but I can’t take the emotion out of it.  I feel to take emotion out of it is to make it like what we’re going through is not painful.  As for the clouding of judgement, yes, this does happen but that is not set in stone.  Allow people to vent, express and even be wrong during their moment of frustration and you will find, they do calm down, begin to listen and there’s even a chance of them learning too.
    hate – If you can’t distinguish dislike from hate, I can’t help you.  There is a difference and it’s a big one.  My difference is this:  hate is mostly misguided while dislike is not.
    tempered – Why do I have to be tempered when people (Orientals) do not bother refusing all the privilege thrown their way?
    antithetical – I consider this part to be nonsense.  To repeat Stiv D, there’s no time right now to be considering anyone else.  We’re down to the wire now.  This is not about hate, it’s about Survival.  To take time reflecting upon others is to take time away from us.
    see inside soul – You left out God.  God can see inside your Soul too.
    all or nothing – Excuse me?  I reckon I’m a “all or nothing” kind of gal ’cause I truly do not see any benefit in taking time out for others while we continue to wither and die.  Didn’t Amen just post an Article the other day that spoke of White People losing 10% (10% less births of white babies) in one year?  I consider that to be extremely severe and me, I don’t have time for others when I read numbers like that.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       I support you in the idea that we must be separate.  The current war against whites is based on forced and coerced mingling.  This doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be aware of others who aren’t us and what they’re about, just that everyone requires their own place in the sun.  The idea or claim that we can live with them next door and both survive is a lie, period.

      Similarly, we must remember that even we whites will not always agree.  What is required is to prioritize and keep the things we can’t agree on in perspective.  For example; I think that you think God sees into your soul or mine is important because, first, it is based on your personal beliefs and I think that I am for freedom of conscious, not that I must be for your or anyone’s personal interpretations of things that have no consequence except in your belief system.  I mean, whether your God is looking into your soul or not will not affect the outcome of things we care about in common.  This has been shown many times over.  I want you to be free to believe what you want, but I don’t want my freedom or acceptance to depend upon what you or someone else thinks I would be better off believing.  Furthermore, I strongly believe that Christianity is the bane of whites, even if you can’t see that.  But this is no reason (to me) that we should not  cooperate on the more important question of white survival on Earth.

  • Johnny Reb

    It collapsed because they lost the war.  There were major economic problems going into the 1940s but they would have overcome those.  The proximate cause of their collapse, however, was biting off more than they could chew.

  • JohnEngelman

    50-90% of Chinese students entering American colleges have fake transcripts and grades.          
    – NCMan
    An assertion that needs to be documented.
    Since 1990 Orientals have out performed whites on the mathematics part of the SAT by significant and growing margins. They are catching up in reading.

  • JohnEngelman

    To top it all off, most of the productivity that people go on and on about in China is geared toward making total junk to put on the market. They don’t do high quality.    
    – StivD 
    Then why do Americans buy so much of it? 

  • StivD

    Only on a site that should be a forum for white advocacy would praising and being told to emulate Asians happen. Whites are really our own worst enemy these days. At least some of us.

    The only real argument is that these articles are completely beside the point. I don’t care about them. 

  • Briankeisha21
    • This makes me want to slap a liberal. I’m not proud of that fact, but I can’t deny the urge exists.

  • crystal evans

     The reason why the Phillipines is overcrowded is due to their devotion to the Catholic religion and its ban on abortion and birth control. Despite these laws, there are back alley abortions and street vendors sell abortifacent drugs. This is a country where most of the best and brightest people end up working overseas and send remittances to family members is a primary source of revenue for the country. Those who will not or cannot work overseas, end up advertising as mail order brides that want to marry a western man to take her away from poverty. Granted there a lot of victims of Japanese atrocities still alive including many Japanese Americans, Canadians and South Americans, who were incarcerated in concentration camps because of their race. The Japan of WW2 and earlier was run by the emperor and the military which annexed Korea and attacked every other Asian country. This is different from the Japan of today. The only hope is that Japan will recognize the suffering of these people and offer some form of compensation.

  • s shadow

    Chinese IQ 106

    09 PISA scores
    Shangai China  556
    Hong Kong  533
    US whites  525
    Chines Taipei  495
    Macau China  487

    It appears whites are right in the middle.   Shanghai is an elite city, and has a higher average score than the rest of China.  Our most elite University towns would probably blow them away.  Could cheating in low IQ provinces be a factor?  They all seem the same, even deep in the interior.  Hmmm.  I’ve seen numbers where Minnesota whites in high school, have an average IQ of 105.  Add in a creativity factor which is proven by macro-phenomena in the world to be markedly higher in whites and a composite of the two would be markedly superior in whites.  I saw 4 exoticars in an auto magazine, 3 were European, and one was a Lexus.  These were high dollar sports cars.  The Europeon cars were extremely refined and gorgeous to look at, whereas the Lexus was frumpy looking, and even downright ugly by comparison.  It was orders of magnitude less sophisticated in design.  This reflects a callow adolescent up against the finest professionals.  The creative IQ disparity is massive.  (p. 62 “Automobile” July 2012).

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       I agree with you on this issue hugely.  It applies to all Asians apparently.  The East Indians were set on their path to manufacturing while a British colony.  They still make a few things the same as they learned it when the British set up factories in India that replicated extant British designs; the Indian version of the SMLE Rifle, the BSA and subsidiary motorcycle plants, etc.  They still make a model of Royal Enfield that is an 1930s design, you can buy one now.  Harley Davidson just set up a factory last year in India.  India produces a line of diesel engines with designs from the 1920s.  China, same thing; Their list of early copycat industry includes copying Russian weapons and the German BMW motorcycle.  I am sure there is much more that I am not aware of, but the point is made. 

      Asians do well at memorization due to their languages being made of characters and therefore needing to be learned by rote memorization.  Western languages have systems and art form to them.  This is perhaps one reason for the difference.  But it is also an example of the limitations of the IQ tests as they stand now.  There is a such thing as physical intelligence, too.

      Overall, the current Asian intelligence thing is overblown.  Asians countries, especially India and China have very large talent pools to draw from compared to the West.  I don’t know that the populations in India and China have been examined for intelligence as thoroughly as American and Europeans are, either.  If they have, I would  like to hear of it.

  • JohnEngelman

    Expect the crime rate to decline, and performance in the public schools to improve.  

  • And this is why I say, Whites will separate.  There will be those who will repeat History and those who will not.  You will probably be in the camp that repeats.

    You don’t seem to understand that non-whites simply cannot be allowed in White Areas because when they are, they take over.  Certain Whites cannot be allowed to live in White Areas either because when they are, they ruin the White Community every time because they bring in non-whites.

  • Love your post but, what are you apologizing for?  You have nothing to say “sorry” for.  You’re right, you’ve always been right so please, don’t ever apologize again.

  • But I’m not so sure we agree.  I get the feeling you are perfectly fine with allowing asins/orientals to live among aka take-over White People and I am not.

  • What?

    What they “teach” is how to cheat and scam every single thing they can.  This has only been proven every which way but you, like other asianphiles, aren’t Honest enough to admit that.

    I have only one question for you:  Why are you living in a Country created by White Men?  Shouldn’t you be in Asia instead?

  • JohnEngelman

    Anyone can create an internet website and make any assertions. If cheating was more prevalent among Orientals than whites I would expect to read about it in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Washington Times, and The New York Times, and I have not. 
    It is very difficult to cheat on the SAT and the ACT. Since at least 1990 Orientals have averaged better scores on mathematics than whites. They are catching up in reading.


  • JohnEngelman

    The New York Times 
    October 6, 2010
    Few countries are immune to high-profile frauds. Illegal doping in sports and malfeasance on Wall Street are running scandals in the United States. But in China, fakery in one area in particular — education and scientific research — is pervasive enough that many here worry it could make it harder for the country to climb the next rung on the economic ladder…
    many educators say the culture of cheating takes root in high school, where the competition for slots in the country’s best colleges is unrelenting and high marks on standardized tests are the most important criterion for admission. Ghost-written essays and test questions can be bought. So, too, can a “hired gun” test taker who will assume the student’s identity for the grueling two-day college entrance exam…
    Academic deceit is not limited to high school students. In July, Centenary College, a New Jersey institution with satellite branches in China and Taiwan, shuttered its business schools in Shanghai, Beijing and Taipei after finding rampant cheating among students…
    Ask any Chinese student about academic skullduggery and the response is startlingly nonchalant. Arthur Lu, an engineering student who last spring graduated from Tsinghua University, considered a plum of the country’s college system, said it was common for students to swap test answers or plagiarize essays from one another. “Perhaps it’s a cultural difference but there is nothing bad or embarrassing about it,” said Mr. Lu, who started this semester on a master’s degree at Stanford University. “It’s not that students can’t do the work. They just see it as a way of saving time.”
    The Chinese government has vowed to address the problem.  

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       “Few countries are immune to high-profile frauds. Illegal doping in sports and malfeasance on Wall Street are running scandals in the United States.”You and many others might be interested in taking a look at the actual people who have perpetrated the Wall Steet and U.S. Banking scandals.  Very few white men involved, and hardly any white male Americans are involved at all.  The person who developed the derivatives scam for Goldman-Sachs was a white woman and the team that developed the program and did the mass bundling was comprised for four women and four men. I think two of the eight were white men.The point is that with liberalization and “Diversity” has come a culture of corruption that was well in place in India, China, Japan (where they had a similar bank scandal first) has crept into the U.S. economy and culture to the point that our young people no longer see the use of ethics.  This is just about what the women who created the derivatives market was saying when she said that she just didn’t think about the right or wrong of it.There used to be a culture of English, German, and Northern European integrity in business and this is what kept the entire planet’s financial systems working.  That culture is all but dead.  It may stagger along for a little while longer, but the eventual worldwide crash due to this and other problems like capacities guarantee it.

  • Let’s not celebrate this so-called Asian intellectual superiority because it doesn’t exist. Everything of  greatness has been invented by White minds and no other. Asians are only the parasites who feed on our civilization as any other non-White.

    What is to note is that Whites have lost their sense of purpose and belonging. Their family structure had been devastated by continuous legislative actions by Congress against them and by U.S. Supreme Court rulings which have basically kept them from fulfilling their hopes and aspirations.

    For the past fifty years most of the Whites have been uprooted  from their familiar environment through legalized forced integration with hateful non-Whites and subsequent White Flight.

    In the past, Whites excelled at learning. White families  were intact and their neighborhoods reflected their morality even when there was poverty as  during the Depression. Today, Whites have become Gypsies in their own Country and, as they see no stable future while more and more surrounded by millions and millions of ugly faces from the third world,and no Government protection, they take less interest in academic, career orientation and learning.

    This Asian thing that they are sooooo good, that they study soooo well etc. etc. has because,not that they’re superior in intellect, not at all. They’ve invented nothing. The fact is that they’re the beneficiaries of all the rights and opportunities granted to the so-called minorities,soon,hope never, to become the majorities.They’ve not been uprooted from their homes,schools,neighborhoods,jobs,friends, as Whites have been. They’re first or second generation mostly and they don’t really want to do the dirty work, so they take the easy way out going to college.

    They’re not your friends and not mine either. They’ve created here, in the USA, a secret society within our open society and they’ve never integrated within our  White-European-based civilization. Actually many of them are on record as saying that ‘  It’s time to replace the old White men in politics and retire them”. Just think about it!

    • JohnEngelman

      They’re not your friends and not mine either.  
      – Allisio Rex
      My two best friends in high school were Chinese Americans. So have been three women I dated. 

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         Goody for you.

    • crystal evans

       You are wrong.
      China has been a source of many inventions,[1] including the Four Great Inventions: papermaking, the compass, gunpowder, and printing (both woodblock and movable type). The list below contains these and other inventions.

      The Chinese invented technologies involving mechanics, hydraulics, and mathematics applied to horology, metallurgy, astronomy, agriculture, engineering, music theory, craftsmanship, nautics, and warfare. By the Warring States Period (403–221 BC), they had advanced metallurgic technology, including the blast furnace and cupola furnace, while the finery forge and puddling process were known by the Han Dynasty (202 BC – AD 220). A sophisticated economic system in China gave birth to inventions such as paper money during the Song Dynasty (960–1279). The invention of gunpowder by the 10th century led to an array of inventions such as the fire lance, land mine, naval mine, hand cannon, exploding cannonballs, multistage rocket, and rocket bombs with aerodynamic wings and explosive payloads. With the navigational aid of the 11th-century compass and ability to steer at high sea with the 1st-century sternpost rudder, premodern Chinese sailors sailed as far as East Africa and Egypt.[2][3][4]

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         You ought to read more than Chinese history and propaganda.  Egypt invented paper long before China, and while they did invent gun powder and a few other things, they did nothing with it.  You make big claims for a huge array of weapons; I would like some referrences that can be proven, unlike that “Chinese Christopher Columbus” claim that had to be investigated and exposed as a nationalist fraud a few years back.  It seems some people continue to be naive and gullible.  So China had all these amazing weapons, but conquered nothing, but lived in peace.  Very interesting.  China was not making steel while the West as stuck in the bronze and iron age fore another thousand years!  Where do you get this stuff?  Promissory notes were being used in Europe during the same period you claim for paper money in China, and paper script had been used in the Roman Army at times.

        From Wiki;

        “Steel was known in antiquity, and may have been produced by managing bloomeries, or iron-smelting facilities, in which the bloom contained carbon.[15]

        The earliest known production of steel is a piece of ironware excavated from an archaeological site in Anatolia (Kaman-Kalehoyuk) and is about 4,000 years old.[16] Other ancient steel comes from East Africa, dating back to 1400 BC.[17] In the 4th century BC steel weapons like the Falcata were produced in the Iberian Peninsula, while Noric steel was used by the Roman military.[18] The Chinese of the Warring States (403–221 BC) had quench-hardened steel,[19] while Chinese of the Han Dynasty (202 BC – 220 AD) created steel by melting together wrought iron with cast iron, gaining an ultimate product of a carbon-intermediate steel by the 1st century AD.[20][21] The Haya people of East Africa invented a type of high-heat blast furnace which allowed them to forge carbon steel at 1,802 °C (3,276 °F) nearly 2,000 years ago.[22]”

        So it is clear that you are being selective and making erroneous claims.  Also, You forgot the water clock, but it was invented and disassembled, having no interest or imagined application other than amusement.

        Items like music theory are useless in this discussion because we had a Greek scale and signature before then, and Chinese music is of a completely different nature anyway.   Note that China now imitates Western Art and uses our tools, including our musical signature.

  • Crystal, John and the rest of you Admirers,

    I tried to be nice, I really did but you’re still doing what you’ve always done and now I’m done trying to be nice.  All you people have ever done is force yourself and your false facts on people who do not want you or your lies and now I’m sick to death of it.

    I even played along and said a “few” (as in three people) assimilated when my own personal experience has been a big fat ZERO.  None of you have ever assimilated and right here on Amren, you prove me right again.

    All you people have done is come to a White Site and proceed to tell us White Folk how “great” and “smart” you are when in fact, you’re anything but.  Just the fact that you push it so hard is proof enough of how inept you people truly are.  I mean really, who are you trying to convince, me or yourself?

    By the way crystal, if Japan is so smart, why do they need Americans to build the software that is meant to CHEAT their customers out of that last digit?  So much for their Ethics and Honesty.  And why, if they’re such a wonderful bunch, why have such a stupid rule that forbids them to shop on their business trips?  Why shame people forever instead of allowing them to learn and move on?  And again, check out the slavery that goes on over there.  Yeah, your people are great alright….

    And, I cannot help but notice how NONE OF YOU, not a one of ya’s said a _____ word about all those asian scholarships that are ONLY for asians.  I got alot of information on you schemers and the last thing you people are is Honest, Ethical, Moral, Intelligent or Assimilated in the slightest.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       Hi Stephanie,

      Not only this, but when it comes to ethics, Japan has a pretty poor record.  One could review the problems they had with banking that foreshadowing the U.S./Global crash by a couple decades.  Total corruption in Japanese banking seems to have been learned and replicated here because we allowed the cultures of corruption in (look at the Indians and Asians (and Hispanics) on the lists U.S. Banking and Wallstreet manipulators (women too, the person who invented the derivatives market for Goldman-Sachs was a white woman), and we had a weak president (Bush).   China, what an issue!  They break rules right out of the box, even violating international monetary rules in not allowing their currency to float.  This is how they have been able to extract so much USD and make US dependent on their junk.  They don’t respect intellectual property or even patents (common for former communist countries) because that system has created a culture that disrespects the idea of intellectual property; (It belongs to everyone, so hey, let’s do some counterfeiting!).  The lists of violations of ethics and examples of really dumb cultural aspects of this supposed superior group amazes.  Just consider Chinese Medicine.  They wipe out every rhino in Africa because the horn is supposed to be an aphrodisiac; shark fins too.  The buffoonery in Chinese Medicine goes on an on, but it is so taboo to criticize it that the FDA did nothing when some white people died after buying some herbal remedies in China Town in SF a while back.  The Chinese community is never questioned on the import or quality of their medicines!

      Add to Japan the ongoing refusal to admit atrocities in WW2 or even teach about them.  The U.S. promised to not prosecute for war crimes, but went at Germany full bore.  (We also ignored Stalin’s horrendous record as well (Not that we could do much about it).  It is interesting to see the national outcomes that may be at least partially a result of this.

      But when it comes to assimilation, let’s be honest; we don’t want to mix with them.  We want to remain white.  The problem we have is that we have gone, step by step, accepting on exception, then another until we feel obligated and duty bound to expect every type in the world here in the U.S. (and the West in general) and that they ought to “assimilate” when that assimilation really means we are being destroyed.

      Separation is the only way;

      Thomas Jefferson

      “Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate
      than that these people are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two
      races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion
      has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them. It is still in our power
      to direct the process of emancipation and deportation peaceably and in such
      slow degree as that the evil will wear off insensibly, and their place be pari
      passu filled up by free white laborers. If on the contrary it is left to force
      itself on, human nature must shudder at the prospect held up. We should in vain
      look for an example in the Spanish deportation or deletion of the Moors.”

      Abraham Lincoln

      “You and we are different races. We have between us a
      broader difference than exists between almost any other two races. Whether it
      is right or wrong I need not discuss, but this physical difference is a great
      disadvantage to us both, as I think your race suffer very greatly, many of them
      living among us, while ours suffer from your presence. In a word we suffer on
      each side. If this is admitted, it affords a reason at least why we should be

      George Orwell

      “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a
      revolutionary act.”

      • JohnEngelman

        The civil rights legislation will not be repealed. Blacks will not be deported. A movement that attempts either goal will lose credibility on issues where it can win. 

        • StivD

          Freedom to self-segregate for the individual can happen.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           Legislation is rarely repealed, but more often qualified by new legislation.  I haven’t heard or read anyone seriously propose blacks be deported (although encouraged to self-deport).  The rhetorical version is understood as such by intelligent people.  Limitations can be placed on immigration and self-segregation has long been a feature of American white culture and practice.  Further, I think that if the “war on whites” continues and grows, as I think it will, this segregation will become more marked and the gated neighborhood may turn into the actively guarded neighborhood. 

          When social degeneration and violence reaches a certain point, martial law will be required.  It has already been discussed for a few areas such as parts of L.A.  When that happens curfews will be enacted.  In fact, curfews can and have been made in the past by counties and states.  Where I grew up in California there was a 10:00pm curfew for all under 18.  A friend and I were once  actually stopped by a Highway Patrol after dark while riding our bicycles home from a boy scout meeting  held at a church.

          The Nation of Islam’s goal is to kill every white person on the planet.  They still manage to find new converts and make political inroads.  There is no reason that whites cannot eventually harbor even more humble goals such as deportation and segregation as the political pendulum can always swing back from the extreme it is in now as any review of political history demonstrates.

          The failure of this nation to provide protection and justice for whites will not retain them forever as loyal, supportive citizens.  Misrule always changes the apparent reality.

      • I was trying to be nice Sir!  I do not believe in sharing America and Europe with even one non-white for to do so only means White Blood Lines are going to be destroyed or, we will be flooded with more non-whites as they ALWAYS need more of their own here so they’re not “lonely” (family).  I’m a die hard Segregationist.

        Thanks for the quotes!

    • JohnEngelman

      Crystal, John and the rest of you Admirers, I tried to be nice. 
       – Stephanie Galonska
      When was that? I missed it.   
       As far as American Renaissance being a “White Site,” I prefer to think of AR as a forum that honors the quote by Thomas Jefferson that is posted at the top of this page, “There is not a truth which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world.”

      When I post truths that explain my admiration for Orientals I have an easy time quoting Jared Taylor, Professor Philippe Rushton, who has spoken at AR conferences, and articles that have appeared on this website.

      You, on the other hand, frequently require the attention of the moderators to moderate your more intemperate posts.

      • StivD

        I think the truth of our own best interests is what should be the touchstone for this website.  I was under the impression that it existed to give a foundation for whites to talk about…themselves and OUR needs.

        • JohnEngelman

          I do not see how my needs conflict with those of Oriental Americans. 

          • StivD

            For one thing, a need to have a nation where ories can’t be called American. Where only white means American. Not your need, I know,  but the need of others and the best for white people.

      • They correct my English boy genius.  I know what I wrote and I know what they change.  Sometimes they change “crap” to “stuff” and when I don’t capitalize, they will capitalize.

        And, you don’t Honor Truth at all.  Never have you admitted the Truth about their cheating ways or answered anyone’s questions about their unethical and amoral ways.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     True.  There seems to have been a national surrender to the idea that Asians will always be smarter than whites, regardless, in the same way many have decided that whites don’t perform well in athletics, even though the facts show a much different picture.

  • JohnEngelman

    Last year, Zhao Bowen was part of a team that cracked the genetic code of the cucumber. These days, he’s probing the genetic basis for human IQ.
    Zhao is 17.
    Centuries after it led the world in technological prowess — think gunpowder, irrigation and the printed word — China has barged back into the ranks of the great powers in science…
    In May, for example, a supercomputer produced in China was ranked the world’s second-fastest machine at an international conference in Germany. China is now in fourth place, tied with Germany, in terms of the number of supercomputers. China has jumped to second place — up from 14th in 1995 — behind the United States in the number of research articles published in scientific and technical journals worldwide…
    Chinese engineers have significantly improved on Western and Soviet coal-gasification technology as part of a multibillion-dollar effort to create green Chinese energy…
     In 2007, Chinese geneticists discovered vast differences in the genetic makeup of Africans, Asians and Caucasians.     

    • StivD

      ‘In 2007, Chinese geneticists discovered vast differences in the genetic makeup of Africans, Asians and Caucasians. ”

      Okay, with this comment I think I understand where you’re going some of the time.  By putting faith in, and by allying closely with, the Chinese, and others in general, whites can rely on a people who are willing to tell the whole truth about genes and race; they don’t allow themselves to be restricted by any other dogma? 
      But, they’re willing to tell the truth about themselves too? Even if it may be unflattering at times?

  • StivD

    Whites should take all info. and use it to our advantage. Whites don’t have to lie, only use the truth that works for us and ignore the rest.

  • Wow. It is really sad to see how this article has FAR more comments/activity than pretty much any other over the past week. To me, this is another indicator of why whites are getting our ***es kicked in our own country: our failure to put things in perspective, to set rational priorities and maintain them.

    To all the folks who gripe about white guys with Asian gals: a whopping 1% of all white guys marry Asian gals (I posted the source last week and am not going to waste more time tracking it down.) That’s right, all of 1 friggin’ percent. That is not a major threat to white in this country.

    Next, Asians, in general and Orientals in particular, “make good neighbors.” In general, their kids aren’t vandalizing our property or bullying our kids, they’re not beating our men and raping our women. They study hard, work hard, get married, keep their kids in line, mind their own business and don’t walk around w/a chip on their shoulders and get in your face whenever they the least slight. They’re not on welfare, much less being “welfare queens” and welfare “baby factories.” They’re not flooding our jails and prisons. Their gangs are few and far between and usually only a “survival mechanism” against non-Asian gang attacks. Yet look at all the fear mongering re Asians….

    Compare them to the TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal Latinos/Hispanics who’ve flooded across our borders for DECADES, have started HUGE violent gangs (MS 13 anyone?), are flooding our jails and prisons, drive down the wages of low wage whites….

    Or compare them to blacks, who, in general, … well, let’s just say they make Latinos look like good neighbors!

    The main gripe about Asians around here is that they’re not white (well, duh!). But that is not going to prove persuasive when trying to get non-AmReners (or WN/WS) to stop the “Asian invasion.”

    However, we’ve got PLENTY of political ammo to use to stop the illegal Latino invasion and implement deportation (incl the illegals that are Asians), and PLENTY of political ammo to use to counter blacks attacking and raping whites. If we focus on those, and win those, the quality of life in America will vastly improve. Then AmReners can start to look at “the Asian problem.”

    If we don’t solves the blacks and Latinos problem first because AmReners/RR/WS/WN were distracted by the much smaller and less dangerous/serious problem posed by Asians (and thus more difficult to solve politically/legally), we’re done for — Brazil here we come. You Asian fixators better be rich to move into walled and gated communities. When you’ve got limited time, money, and manpower, you’ve got to choose your goals carefully.

    Priorities, folks, priorities.

  •  Let’s see: which would you rather have, having to “put up with” Asians forming cliques on colleges and looking down their noses at you, or blacks beating you up, kicking you in your head and raping your wife?  I can tell you how “normal white Americans” would answer that…. Dittos w/the “drama” that Latinos bring into your life. Extreme? True, but not without much truth behind it.

    Also: I never said there should not be immigration restrictions on Asians — I’m all for repealing those 1967 laws, esp the ones re bringing your extended family members to join you.

    I’m also against illegal immigration, offshoring of manufacturing and jobs (phone customer service), and against international students who learn at our universities and then go home to compete against the US. I’m also against the US going into debt and having to beg ANY nation, Asian or otherwise, to buy US bonds. Right now, if it wasn’t for China buying our bonds, all Americans, whites incl., would be in a world of hurt…. And that’s our own fault.

    Once again, priorities are essential. If RR/WS/WN aren’t having a positive impact on public policy debate in this country (versus being used to justify even more anti-white, anti-US legislation), it is because we don’t have the Big $$$ to get our way in politics. Why is that??? I’d bet it is because we individually fail to set and adhere to wise educational, professional, and financial priorities. The results speak for themselves….

  • The

    This is the most ridiculous babbling observation coming out of 12 year old brain I ever heard from someone down under. Whites built USA, Canada and Australia? hahaha 

  • Sammy2310

    I have read most of the comments down there and couldn’t resist writing down my opinion. Before I begin, let me tell you, I am an Indian. I have completed my dental education in India and am planning to pursue a career in genetics abroad. I admire Stephanie for standing up for Americans and detest John for his views. Let me tell ya the perspective for the India side. Before that, you gotta know the protocol for an Indian’s orchestrated life.
    1. Study to your wit’s end in school, college and maybe University. It is all about rote learning; there is no concern for creativity, understanding, innovation and most importantly application. Engineering (only computers, electronics and IT) and medical are considered superior professions, while commerce comes second. Music, arts, literature, humanities are thrid rate careers taken up by those buffons who couldn’t score on their tests. Even, an entrance test for a prestigious institution is based on cramming up books – one of the main reasons why I scored low in dentistry and why I couldn’t enter a master’s programme. I can understand and retain knowledge, I can’t store it like I am a hard-disk.
    2. Get a job or go to USA, UK, AUS, GERMANY, NZ, CANADA and such developed countries for a masters. The students mention that they wana research on their chosen areas, but the main intention is too get a job, settle down, get married to a girl who is similarly a migrant in US or import one from India. Have kids then on and fit in the elite NRI social club. Show off your stature and talk down to those miserable arses who are stuck in India. Btw, it is easy to get married when one is settled abroad, esp for men. Women are too eager to get hitched to a punter staying abroad, as that elevates their social status. And all this has to be done before one hits 28 years of age.
    Results of such a controlled rubbish social mindset.
    1. People aren’t creative, innovative, multi-faceted, socially outward, practical and lack risk-taking. My 4 years of dental education was all about books and when you enter practice you are alien to modern developments and left in the lurch.
    2. Indians aren’t smarter than Americans or Europeans. It is both these nationalities (or in some context, shall I say ‘races’) that made the world. Read your history of science, culture, arts, renaissance, medicine et al to understand. I don’t want to cite any egs here.
    3. The Indians study or come to the US for study on their parents’ expenses. We don’t work from the age of 18 in part-time work or move out until marriage. We don’t know what it is to be independent and fund our adult life. So I can understand why it takes time for americans to get to university edu whilst Indians are at that stage by 23 years of age. I admire the americans for the self-sufficiency and headstrong attitude.
    4. Since, we are not self-sufficient and are not acquainted to risk-taking, we can’t be Steve Jobs who inspite of not-such-a-great childhood has etched his name in quarters of technology and self-inspiration. Such a person in India who have been stuck in an orpahanage forerver. We don’t have the likes of Richard Branson, Alan Sugar, Bill Gate, Jimi Hendrix, James Hetfield, Jim Morrison, Led Zeppelin, Winston Churchill, JFK, Donald Trump, Oscar WIlde, Dickens, Jane Austen and the list can go on…..
    Finally, European inventions in the Industrial age were purely European and ‘white’ as a dove’s feather. Some inventors surely derieved mental or spiritual inspiration from oriental and hindu mythology, and what’s wrong with that. That’s not copying, that is just juicing up. The brain, the thought and the grit were European (American) and that’s what matters. And for the record, we owe maths to greek and mesopotmians, not Indians; computing to English and Americans, internet again to English, Cars to germans and Industrail revolution to the English. Indians are good for customer care call centres….[the rant will be continued 😉 ]

  • weedman

    I would like too know if they used Pd lead in their enviroment for the last three hundred years as much as we have.