Asian Sex Gang ‘Were Acting Within Cultural Norms’

Graeme Paton, Telegraph (London), May 10, 2012

The historian said “nobody ever explained” to the men—eight of Pakistani origin and one from Afghanistan—that women could not be treated in this way.

Dr Starkey called for better teaching of English history to create a “common identity” and overcome the challenges of multiculturalism.

But the comments are likely to prompt condemnation just a day after the men were handed sentences of between four and 19 years for the offences.

Liverpool Crown Court heard the group plied five victims with drink and drugs and “passed them around” for sex.

The girls were abused at two takeaway restaurants in the Heywood area of Rochdale by the men aged between 24 and 59. The takeaways are now under new management. Speaking at a conference staged by Brighton College, the private school in East Sussex, Dr Starkey said that the “only way we are going to get to be able to survive as a multi-cultural society is if we re-address the story—the real story—of English history”.

The historian, author of books including Elizabeth and The Private Life of Henry VIII, said: “If you want to look at what happens when you have no sense of common identity, look at Rochdale and events in Rochdale, where you have groups that are absolutely and mutually uncomprehending.

“Those men were acting within their own cultural norms. Nobody ever explained to them that the history of women in Britain was once rather similar to that in Pakistan and it had changed.”

He said a “genuine approach to the teaching of English history” should look at the origins of modern feminism.

“It is a fundamental story,” he said. “And it seems to me that if we are to make this highly diverse society work, and I desperately hope that we do, what we should be focusing on is the astonishing record of change without revolution in English history in which the political system of king, lords and commoners, has proved flexible enough to spread from a tiny deeply selective electorate to a wider and wider group who have been incorporated, have been brought in and made to feel welcome.”

Last year, Dr Starkey provoked controversy after blaming “black culture” for initiating the London riots, saying that in today’s society “whites have become black”.

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  • J.P.

    Better teaching of English history? Oh the irony. If the English had any respect for their history then Muslims wouldn’t be welcome in Briton. The same could be said of any formerly White nation. If the English had any respect for the history of their people they would stand up for their young Woman. They would take people who excuse the sexual enslavement of their teenage girls to Muslims as nothing more then a cultural misunderstanding and place their heads on a spike on a historic bridge over the Thames.

    How do you sleep at night Dr?

    • Church_of_Jed

      Typical modern White historian to say that just by teaching the dusky Arabs something about Brit history, the duskyness will shed and gleaming Anglo-Saxons will emerge.
      The Arabs are enriching the Brits with the experiences of Arabness. Sexual abuse of White Brit girls is a cross cultural experience that tells Brits more about immigrant culture than they will ever learn in history books.

  • Oil Can Harry

    Muslims don’t think it’s morally wrong to commit gang rapes?

    But I thought all cultures were equal! My teachers insisted that Westerners were NOT any more civilized than Third Worlders. 

    •  for them to believe what they were doing was ok or normal automatically excludes them  from the human being club

  • Whirlwinder

    Guys like this are content with committing cultural suicide. How can anybody excuse that type of action by any cultural group? This is insanity.

    • anonymous_amren

      He’s not excusing it. He’s blaming multiculturalism. He’s on our side.

  • Church_of_Jed

    Assume their claims are true. What does that say about the Labour Party who let them migrate into Britain?

    Willful ignorance of the cultural norms that put White Brit girls at risk, or a crass plan to wipe out Whiteness?

    Probably some of both, and at the core you will find resistance to “instigate racial hatred” by exposing the truth of the Arab lust for White skin.

    Why don’t we ever see reporters state that they tried to contact those who implemented the immigration policies for a comment on the tendency of immigrants to rape White girls?

    Even when giving reports that foster implicit racism, good news sources like this one stop short of doing the right thing. White imagination and creativity has been leveled down to the mediocre margin.

    On TV, you hear the conservative whiners, mostly Hannity and guests, complain about “they”. But liberals always have names and addresses. Weird, isn’t it, that conservatives never learn from liberals, especially how victorious liberals are at always eventually getting what they want. Weird.

  • loyalwhitebriton

    Dr. Starkey is a well intentioned, though wrong, liberal historian. He has made some very interesting programmes on the history of British politics and the Kings and Queens of this Island, and even displays what appears to be a genuine respect for such, but he makes the classic liberal error: he believes in the ‘propositional state’; the concept that anyone can be British, regardless of their race, religion, or cultural background.
    Teaching British history to Somalians, Arab moslems, Sikhs, etc, is pointless. It is pointless because it is not their history. Imagine if you were a white person living in, say, South Africa, and you had to learn about certain Zulu leaders who fought against the British and Dutch? Would you really buy into it? Would you really identify with those Zulu leaders, as a white European person?
    The political and cultural history of a people can only ever be relevant to the people to which that political and social history is relevant to! In the case of Britain, British history can only ever be relevant to the indigenous (white) Britons (though it may be of general interest to other English speaking nations).

    • Its not history they need to learn but that 1stworlders dont condone raping little girls, despite the acceptance of such in black and mudslum nations.

  • Global Minority

    “The historian said “nobody ever explained” to the men—eight of Pakistani origin and one from Afghanistan—that women could not be treated in this way.”

    One more reason NOT to import them to 1st World Countries.

  • Moohamad had multiple wives under 10 years old so they were doing a holy experiance.

    • Church_of_Jed

      Once LGBTQ is enshrined as the ruling class through systemic takeover and instructional victory, helped along with a SCOTUS defeat of state laws against gay marriage, look for all religious, social, and legal barriers to child rape and bestiality to fall. How can a society say yes to gay marriage and say no to escalation into next level depravity? We are at the end of Western Civilization. We are now at the point of the Rule of the Formerly Oppressed Minority, and next will be the Rule of the Extreme Pervert. 25 years from now, what girls would have been raised properly enough to become decent mothers? Dang, what about today? Invest in pharma stocks now. Next generation, high as a kite anti depressants is the investment boom to come.

      • IstvanIN

        So gays are the reason Britain allowed itself to be taken over by Asiatic aliens who sexually abuse young whites girls?  Nothing to do with a traitorous British government that allowed the take over and is so afraid of “offending” the Muslims that this sort of thing can happen.  Damn that Boy George!

    • I spelled mohammad that way on purpose.

  • Church_of_Jed

    I merge duskiness into one race, “because they all look alike and you can’t tell them apart,” and because I’m raciss. 

    I have seen some light skinned Iranians before, and they were hottt!

  • Not all men were created “equal” and this proves it….

  • IstvanIN

    I disagree.  As a pre-third world white American I found that, growing up, kids from Italian, Jewish and Puerto Rican and to a lesser degree Irish backgrounds always seemed to indentify with the “old neighborhood” than with an American identity.  At best they were hyphonated-Americans, unlike “original” Anglo/German Americans or those of Scandanavian or Polish/Hungarian/Czech decent.  Something that seems to continue to this day.

  • They have signs in European airports to show 3rdworlders not to defecate on the floors with someone squating with a “no” symbol over it, maybe they need signs of a guy with a suicide vest raping a little white girl with a “no” symbol over it.

  • See the documentary “dancing boys of afganistan” your taxes pay for Karzai’s administration to have sex with little boys. Moohamad had multiple wives under 10 yo.

  • Watch the documentary “dancing boys of afganistan”. Rape might be technically illegal it is as excepted as it is in the black community of Houston TX, remember the 20+ blacks raping an 11yo non black that Quandel X of the black pus puses had people protesting the prosecution.

  • loyalwhitebriton

    You do have a point there, JE; most academics and historians do lean to the left of Starkey.

  • This is is idiocy. Islam may be the most backward religion so far, but there is no “cultural pattern” in these societies that would make these criminal acts acceptable or even normative. In short- Pakis & others know this is a crime, and this human excrement did it just because they exactly knew what they were doing.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       I am rejoicing because on this issue, you and I are in complete agreement!  When you are being sadistic and cruel, you know innately that it is wrong. But such cruelty seems to be a constant among Islamic males (Arab and Turkic at least).

  • 1gravity

    It may be that rape is illegal in Pakistan, but problems of proof are insurmountable: under much maligned and misunderstood Sharia Law, the prosecution has to produce witnesses to the act.  So, as a practical matter, it’s one of those things a Muslim male can almost always get away with.

  • If impotent britons BRING these wogs into their country
    THEN LET THEM RAPE their children
    what’s the matter

    Are we supposed to Send In The Marines??

  • Texan1st

    I agree with “making lists”. Your suggestions on what to do with them are rather tame however. Those that find themselves on these lists deserve much more than merely being shunned and having written attacks made against them. These people have deliberately destroyed white homelands with their non-white immigration policies, marginalized indigenous white males in favor of these non-white immigrants, and paved the way for genocide against our race and the various cultures found within. For these things, those that pushed non-white immigration into historically white nations should receive a personal visit away from their comfort zones so that they can have the opportunity to explain their treason against whites face-to-face.

  • Up to my neck in CA

    Their victims where all WHITE!! Stop the assault on White women from non-Whites!
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4305385/47-victims-of-Asian-sex-monsters-who-targeted-white-girls.html

    Teach your wives, mothers, daughters and cousins to fight back, get pepper spray or even better a gun (legally).