Lack of Babies Could Mean the Extinction of the Japanese People

David Piper, Fox News, May 11, 2012

Japan has a problem, a lack of children, and it seems likely there will be even fewer in the future.

Japanese researchers have now warned of a doomsday scenario if it carries on this way with the last child to be born there in 3011 and the Japanese people potentially disappearing a few generations later.

Academics from the city of Sendai, which was hit hard by last year’s tsunami, calculate there are now 16.6 million children under the age of 14 now in Japan.

And they say that number is shrinking at a disturbing rate of one every 100 seconds.

So if you do the mathematics, as they did, then the country will have no children within a millennium.

Another study recently showed Japan’s population is expected to fall a third from its current 127.7 million over the next century.

Government projections show the birth rate will hit just 1.35 children per woman within 50 years, well below the replacement rate.

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The question everybody asks is why is there a lack of children?

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One reason is the cost. Japan is an extremely expensive country and getting a child through college can wipe out a family’s finances.

But research shows it goes much deeper than that as the Japanese state does throw a lot of money at people with children.

Another argument is that there are more effeminate men now called “Herbivores” there who are either not interested in sex or women don’t find masculine enough.

Then some suggest many young Japanese people prefer “virtual” friends with a robot or on the internet, while others suggest their fascination with comics rather than relationships is the cause for a lack of babies.

A study was released earlier this year in which it showed Japan’s young people are shunning the idea of marriage and having children.

The National Institute of Population and Social Security Research study also showed one in four unmarried men and women in their 30s had never had sex, and most young women preferred being single.

It also showed over 60 percent of unmarried young men didn’t have a girlfriend, and nearly 50 percent of women of the same age weren’t dating.

If that wasn’t bad enough, young Japanese people are also, it seems, increasingly not interested in sex.

A survey by the Japan Family Planning Association found that 36 percent of males between 16 and 19 had “no interest” in sex.

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It announced last week for the first time ever sales of its adult diapers were larger than those for babies.

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The easy answer would be large-scale immigration from other Asian countries, but the Japanese public has historically opposed such a measure.

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  • WmarkW

    Give people options about how to spend their lives, and not many will choose raising multiple children.  Advanced, feminist societies need to make a decision about how hard they want to try making parenthood more enjoyable than singlehood. 

    Otherwise, you either go extinct, or import less advanced people from pre-feminist lands.

  • and in this corner we have ….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavou_SEj1E&feature=player_embedded

    Care to guess who’s winning???
     
    “IQ is waaaay over rated.” — Darwin

  • sarah stein

    With fewer whites reproducing, I hope I live long enough to see the chaos when people stop getting their EBT cards. 

  • The__Bobster

    Most men fail to grasp that women really don’t enjoy sex and have very low libidos. Unlike men, women don’t get agitated if they aren’t in a relationship or having sex.
    ____________

    You really need to stop dating those feminists.  😉

  • The__Bobster

    Didn’t Japan take on the world with a much lower population?

  • Let’s hope they are smart enough to resist the temptation to import Africans to solve the problem, that plan hasn’t worked out so well in Europe

  • Global Minority

    “Unlike men, women don’t get agitated if they aren’t in a relationship or having sex.” I don’t know what part of the world you are in or if you are referring only to White women by chance? Speaking from a White woman’s point of view you are NOT correct. You are apprently dating the wrong women and are around the wrong women.

    And no child birth is not humiliating.

    Odd I fund most men don’t want anymore children then 1 or 2 becasue they are FLAT OUT SELFISH. I know I married one of those unfornuntley and guess what? We aren” married no more either.

  • David Owens

    You know nothing about women. Most women love sex. Most women want very much to be in a relationship and suffer when they aren’t. And while no woman looks forward to childbirth, most women love and want children–even many gay women. Seriously, you need to see a shrink about your fear and hatred of women.

    • Detroit_WASP

      I know at least a dozen women who wanted kids BUT WAITED TOO LONG.  Let’s hope they don’t adopt 3rd world 75 IQ babies as many have!

  • Strider73

    Imagine 128 million people jammed into Montana. Japan is about the same size. So even  if the population fell by half, the place would still be crowded, especially since most of the land is uninhabitable.

    And as “Northern Wind” notes, projecting current trends out a thousand years is ridiculous, and intellectually lazy. The Black Death pandemic of the 14th century killed from 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe’s population, yet the people survived and came back quickly.

  • Japan with 10 or 15 million people would be a paradise.

    It’s nothing but pro-immigration propaganda that a population that is shrinking is inherently bad.

    Also, as long as they keep the immigrants out, there is no existential threat. Populations rise and fall. It will still be Japan. Even if the population dips dangerously low, as long as those people who remain are still Japanese, it can always bounce back. It is the countries that are experiencing plummeting birth rates at the same time as they are letting in astonishing numbers of alien foreigners that are going to be in for a rude awakening.

  • WhiteGuyInJapan

    Hmmm, where to begin with this one.  Yeah, lots of young Japanese men seemed more interested in their hair, comic books, careers than pursuing women.  The article doesn’t mention that a lot of contemporary Japanese women prefer to live rent-free with their parents and spend their money on Gucci handbags than become mothers and husbands.  “Parasite singles”, the media dubbed them.

    Furthermore, romantic love is not a part of their traditional culture and marriage is generally seen in terms of procreation and social obligation.  More boring responsibility, which is a big turn-off for a rather spoiled generation (showing my age here).  

     Many married couples in Japan often sleep in separate rooms and have what psychologists call “sexless marriages”-having sex less than a few times a year.  Furthermore, sex is also viewed as purely for procreative purposes, with
    little to no emphasis on the emotional bonding between a man and a
    woman. This makes sex  another chore, akin to fixing the sink. 

    Japanese companies generally expected or demanded that a woman quit after marriage or having a child.  This pushes many educated women to choose between a career or a child and many choose the former. 

    As Frank Salter noted, a nation with closed borders can go through a population decline without the vacuum effect we are seeing in the West, with high birthrate immigrants flooding in.   A plus for Japan. 

  • Natassia

    I could have sworn that pornography, particularly “elder porn,” is highly popular in Japan. If this is truly the case, then how are the Japanese “not interested in sex”?

  • 3011 as in the year 3011? Like nothing is going to happen between now and then.

    The feminine male thing is definitely part of the problem. Having lived in Korea and visited Japan a couple of times, i can tell you that Asian men are unbelievably immature. I had students in my class in their 30s who were more immature than American high school students. They are extremely babied and coddled. Most men live at home well into their 30s without shame. One thing i noticed was their notorious shyness and insular in-group/out-group dynamic, which is so annoying. Some of my classes had one man and ten women, yet the man would never engage the women. It’s definitely a form of social retardation. Another thing that is probably part of the problem is their cultural idea of respect for people older than them which is encoded into the language in Korea. I don’t know if this is a problem in Japan, but in Korea they are only allowed to have friends the same age as them. Even if someone is only a year or two older, they have to ‘show respect’ and use different language around them. I imagine that is quite limiting when considering someone’s dating potential.

  • The Japs are not in danger of extinction.  They will seek Survival, it’s just plain ‘ole Nature.

    As for immigrants taking over Japan, they’re so on top of it, they fingerprint their immigrants and keep close tabs on them so no worries, Japan will stay Japan in every sense of the word and for that, I say more power to them.

    • I certainly hope you’re right.

      • It’s from The Center for Immigration Studies.  It was awhile back yes but I’m sure the Japs haven’t changed their stance.

        As for your comment, why do you hope I’m right?  If there were enough of them, they’d be actively seeking our demise to.  ALL non-whites want us dead or ruled over.  They all think and believe The White People owe them and this includes yes, the Japanese.

        They were (japs) the ones who did after all, get AMERICAN Veteran Hospitals to take down the Newspaper Clippings of our Victory over them did they not?

        Since I reminded myself of that, I hope they do indeed become extinct.  May they never breed no more.

  • I have never been to Japan, but many of the things described in this article I see happening in the United States. Unfettered non-white immigration is straining our country in every aspect already (in this regard, Japan is still lucky), but I predict that feminism and the distortion of relationships between men and women of younger generation will finally put a crown on it through keeping the white birth rate low and, even more important, the quality of white children.

    Let’s take a look at some issues that are of concern for the younger generation:

    – Women have been constantly told in colleges and magazines that career and liberalization from a male-dominated society shall be their ultimate pursuit. The percentage of women in colleges has been going up for decades, and it is believed to outweigh the male percentage these days. I have been to college for a while, so I can see it. The white male has been reduced to a status of neglect with severe discrimination in the job market, and women have been encouraged to treat them like disposables when it comes to dating.

    – The proliferation of women with similar qualifications as males have increased the labor supply over the last decades and have made the competition in the job market even more fierce. Career-oriented feminists will praise the traits of their status and ideology, but they are the ones who instinctively practice hypergamy and prefer dating alpha-males with even higher status. With the competition today, there are fewer and fewer males who can satisfy the list of demand by feminists, so the dating market gets priced out. These women may proudly stay single and focus on their career until their biological clock begins to tick louder in their 40’s, when they realize too lately that they need a family.

    – Marriage is not seen as a form of romantic bonding, sacrifice, commitment, loyalty and family union any longer, but sort of a trade business where money and materialism matter. I am happy to have grown up in a family that has put harmony and commitment first, but it seems like there are more and more marriages nowadays where each partner seeks to squeeze out financial resources from the other one in a selfish manner. 70% of all divorces are initiated by women according to multiple statistics, and there are many cases of women using children as weapons in a war for alimony from their husbands and custody. The laws are not on male’s side, and it doesn’t surprise me that more and more males go on a marriage strike. The unfortunate reality for males is: If you are not an alpha or rich, you won’t get any attention in the dating market. If you are rich or have a solid career, then your money is the subject of your attractiveness, not you as a person, and you may end up paying for a person you won’t be even allowed to see.

    – Even in cases of marriages based on true romantic relationships, both partners pursuing careers and the flexibility that today’s job market requires means that it is much harder for both to find a workplace in the same place that satisfies their career goals, and no one wants to compromise because that would destroy individual freedom and defeat the purpose of having higher education first place. Sad fact is that both partners focusing on their career leaves no time for children, while having a one-source income household may barely be sufficient to sustain a one-child family, let alone 2 or 3 children. I get haunted by horror when I observe how prices for health care and college are exploding – those same colleges that indoctrinate kids into liberalism and feminism, provide ground for promiscuity and thug scene and do not offer the advantage any longer that they used to due to globalization and a crappy job market.
    The people who produce children are immigrants, non-whites and those who live off welfare checks whose kids will never contribute to anything positive in the society.

    – I experienced it, and I am not alone in my conclusions: As a decent, solid, hard-working male who respects women you do not constitute the preferred type of a male in the dating market, because you are considered nice which makes you unattractive. Our liberal society has been teaching males to be “caring” and “sensitive”, but that will only impress your grandma, not females in younger age. How many times have I heard stories about women with an above-average attractiveness going after the jerks and assholes (and non-whites especially in the west) while spurning the decent guys or using them as therapists to cry out their woes about how badly their boyfriends treat them, while still being attracted to the kind they complain about?  But honestly, when I see how selfish, self-centered, shallow and uppity many of college females are who exhibit a princess syndrom coupled with an entitlement mentailty, I am not surprised that many males don’t see any advantage in having relationships with these women at all, let alone marrying them since they will make their lives a hell.

    The issue is complex, but I believe it is as compelling as the threat posed by non-white immigration because our society is brewing a generation of people who will never be able to pass on traditional and conservative values to the following generations, which have kept western society for centuries, while the “modern” liberal societal regime is developing cracks merely after a few decades.

    • This is a well thought, depressing post. What can I add, here from old Europe ? What’s the difference ?

      1. no significant amount of non-Whites, at least here in central, SE and Eastern Europe.

      2. better possibilities for study, for everyone. When I read or hear about catastrophic student loans, I simply cannot believe. Essentially, everyone can study everything, without any loan from anyone. It was cheaper in Communism- in ex-Communist countries- but still working class children can comfortably study law, math, foreign languages, civil engineering,..

      3. when I read about “feminist wars” in 1970s or 1980s, I’m stunned- it’s so “science fiction”. I can’t believe such things could have happened. Culturally, aggressive feminism is-IMO- something belonging to Germanic-speaking countries (plus Finns, OK). It’s not something Romance (French, Italians, Spanish,..) or Slavic (Croatian, Serbian, Polish, Russian,..) peoples would take seriously. Women must have equal rights, period. And that’s all, no more, no less. They are not victims, they want to get married & have children & families- chief problems are unemployment & housing.
      But no female would choose “alpha” (in the American sense of the word)- except a few sluts. There is no concept of “dating”. You meet various people, male & female, in different situations & eventually “fall in love” (or something similar). And then comes marriage, children etc. Out of 30 boys & girls I went to high school with, 3 were divorced (and remarried).

      4. there are more females in studies like arts, languages, sociology, …and males in all engineering & exact science (more female students in biology & chemistry, though). Medicine is 50/50, dentistry predominantly male etc. Demographic projections are not good, but it has less to do with ideologies than with economy & housing.

      And, perhaps the greatest difference- rich people are generally subject of loathing. Maybe that’s why capitalism is not very successful, or Communism had had successes. The rich are viewed as guilty thieves until proven innocent.

    • I saw a book the other day at Barnes and Noble about how America is rapidly becoming a female dominated society. You might check it out – sorry I don’t remember the name of it but it is a new book in hardcover in the social science section.

    • You are long-winded, but I hung in there until the end, and it was a very thought-provoking post. I agree with virtually all your points. I’d love to be an optimist and say that we will get through this — but there’s always “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” hanging over our heads, like the Sword of Damocles.

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      I am a traditional female who respects white men and who rejects feminism. However, let me tell you why posts like your’s discourage me. I sense so much anger in this movement directed at white women and what good does it do us? Why is the weaker sex blamed for all the problems of our race? I see plenty of problems in both genders today and you have to be blind to come to the conclusion that white men are doing everything right themselves.

      Not only that but the negative traits attributed to white women are exaggerated on here. Most white men and women are still marrying each other, miscegenation is still rare, most white women aren’t feminists by any means, etc..etc.. White women such as myself really get discouraged when we see posts like your’s on here constantly. Does it do our race any good? I agree that the current system is anti white male, but take that out on the liberal establishment. Stop taking it out on white women. Otherwise what is you solution? Do you want to drive white men into the arms of Asian women?

      • Ms. Courtney,

        I feel they do this on purpose.  They know it’s not true but say it over and over again so they can convince their fellow White People they had no other choice but to date outside their race.  None of us True White People are falling for their garbage.

      • Courtney,I respect you for being traditional and abhorring feminism, and I wish more white women were like you, but unfortunately many young women (especially in high school and college age) are just opposite to that, they worship the thug culture and succumb to the distasteful “charme” of non-whites or jerks while marginalizing white boys with good manners. I didn’t claim that our demise is solely attributed to white women, and I agree that men are to blame in many respects, but overall I notice that more white women are attracted to the worst type of non-whites than white men are vice-versa. It seems that a lot of younger females are liberal, hence the notion that some lash out at “white women” who also happen to be liberal – but I am sure that those who “lash out” are not opposed to females with traditional values – but there are fewer and fewer of them in the younger generation. By the way, I have good experience with adult and elderly women when it comes to having a good conversation, and they do uphold traditional values. Miscegenation among whites is still relatively low (although rising), but fewer and fewer people get married, and the divorce rate of 50% (which a majority of women initiate) is sky high. It didn’t used to be that way at least one generation ago, so white men and women do seem to have a problem finding each other, after all.
        My solution?  Rejection of feminism, focus on education that is tailored on traditional gender roles, and very important: Parents should raise their children’s (both boys and girls) awareness of the dangers of submitting into relationships with non-whites. The list does not end here.

      • Here is something that indirectly supports your thesis: 
        http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/

        It is regionally restricted; it’s about dating, not marriage, but …

        How Your Race Affects The Messages You Get

        Black women write back the most.
        Whether it’s due to talkativeness, loneliness, or a sense of plain
        decency, black women are by far the most likely to respond to a first
        contact attempt. In many cases, their response rate is one and a half
        times the average, and, overall, black women reply about a quarter more
        often that other women.White men get more responses.
        Whatever it is, white males just get more replies from almost every
        group. We were careful to preselect our data pool so that physical
        attractiveness (as measured by our site picture-rating utility) was
        roughly even across all the race/gender slices. For guys, we did
        likewise with height.White women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else—and Asian and Hispanic women prefer them even more exclusively. These three types of women only respond well to white men. More significantly, these groups’ reply rates to non-whites is terrible. Asian women write back non-white males at 21.9%, Hispanic women at 22.9%, and white women at 23.0%. It’s here where things get interesting, for white women in particular. If you look at the match-by-race
        table before this one, the “should-look-like” one, you see that white
        women have an above-average compatibility with almost every group. Yet
        they only reply well to guys who look like them. There’s more data on
        this towards the end of the post.

        Men don’t write black women back.
        Or rather, they write them back far less often than they should. Black
        women reply the most, yet get by far the fewest replies. Essentially
        every race—including other blacks—singles them out for the cold shoulder.White guys respond less overall. The average reply rate of non-white males is 48.1%, while white guys’ is only 40.5%.
        Basically, they write back about 20% less often. It’s ironic that white
        guys are worst responders, because as we saw above they in turn get the
        most replies. That has apparently made them very self-absorbed.
        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

        Well:

        1. data are adjusted to other parameters (money, height,..), so the picture that emerges is pretty realistic

        2. white women respond well ONLY to white men

        3. white men are lazy: “That has apparently made them very self-absorbed.”

        So, a serious- not PC- study, socio-psychological-economical should be done before jumping to conclusions that are frequently simplifications & unfair to White women. Although, I think I know at least 50% of the answer: White men are EXTREMELY disgusted when they see SOME White women with Black men.

        This is a NO-NO-NO-… that makes men MAD like Hell & psychologically amplifies & intensifies negative feelings about whole complex issue.

  •  I’m an only child because my mother wanted a second child but my father didn’t.  My dad was a bum.  I was an “accident.”  Conversely I want to have like 3 or 4 because it was lonely being an only child.

    • I hear ya, brother. I had an older brother, who died at birth. Seventeen years later, I came along. And that was it. Not sure why that was. But I always wished I had had at least one living sibling. And I was right at the start of the Baby Boom generation. Some of my classmates were the oldest of five or six.

    • Global Minority

      I sure hope you do marry and have a couple of children 3 or 4 would be nice.

  • I blame hedonism and materialism.  Like the Romans we have decided to pursue luxury and pleasure and damn everything else.  The Romans didn’t bother to have children; imported barbarians and gave them bread and circuses to appease them; gave tribute to their enemies so they wouldn’t cause trouble.  We are all Romans now.

    People like to look for a scapegoat, the elite, the globalists, the Jews.  Maybe all of them are guilty, maybe none of them are guilty.  But the truth is we are our own worst enemies, we did this to ourselves.

    I’ve seen couples give some of the stupidest reasons for not wanting to have children; such as they like to read and sleep and are grateful they don’t have to get up int the middle of the night to tend to “a brat”, no lie.  People that think like this will end up in a state run nursing home waiting for a death panel to decide whether or not they’ll get the life saving treatments they need.  That is if there is a state left or if they don’t get killed by “youths” at some point.  Shortsighted fools, live it up for now.

    • Depressing. But- maybe it’s inevitable ? Civilized peoples age & become more selfish and don’t want to breed in old fashioned way. I don’t know, but when I read Spengler’s “Decline of the West” I recognized in his descriptions of city, Rome,… modern civilized world (West plus Japan plus parts of east Asia). Strong family ties go to the wastebasket, hedonism & instant gratification are dominant gods.

      But, the big difference is- technology & science. Now, “barbarians” are powerless, even with “help” from inside. Perhaps we’re in a period of transition. 3rd WW ? Who knows …

      •  Yes, advanced technology has kept, for example, the Islamic world at bay for a few centuries.  Question is for how long.  We should build a cyborg  army and airships with drones lol.  Sorry I have an overactive imagination.

  • John McNeill

    A long-lasting, sub-replacement birth rate is not something that can be easily reversed. Longterm subreplacement birthrates essentially lead to missing generations which has long term negative demographic consequences.  And as the country gets older, there are less  young people to support the infrastructure of the nation.

    While I applaud Japan for its efforts in resisting immigration, if it continues to shrink at the rate it does, then it will be forced to take in immigration, or be willing to accept economic chaos. Mind you, this immigration will not be a good thing, as whites have learned, but I have a worrying suspicion that the Japanese will pick economic comfort over ethnic sovereignty, and take up the short-term benefits of immigration and ignore the long-term damning consequences.

    The best bet would be for Japan to stabilize its population growth, rather than continue with suicidal cultural asexuality.

  • KenelmDigby

    What a silly article!

    The fact is that population projections for anything but the short term are notoriously unreliable, the calim that ‘on current trends the Japanese will disappear in a millenium’ is an absurdity, since projecting population for anything more than a generation or so is impossible.
      Saying all that, the Japanese are in a far, far stronger position than any of the west European nations whose politicians foisted mass third world immigration upon them. The European birth-rates once the immigrants are stripped out are almost certainly lower, but crucially, the Japanese living-space is populated almost entirely by ethnic Japanese. There is no rival competitor race on Japanese soil, whom in a malthusian battle for resources, could put a brake on Japanese expanison. Alas, in Europe this is simply not true. The immigrants will eclipse and crowd out the indigenes.

  • JohnEngelman

    Japan retains a high population density. Fewer people mean more of everything good to go around. The relationship population and standard of living can be explained with an equation:
     
    (natural resources x level of technology) / population = standard of living
     
    This article is unable to describe Japan’s low birth rate is having now, so it projects current trends one thousand years into the future. 

  • OK, I’ll throw in a few sci fi thoughts (or unorthodox ideas):

    1. what if the next step in evolution is “no sex” ? Of course, Japan is a land of homo sapiens sapiens, but- in a relatively cold climate, plus hyper-technological society- maybe the next, natural step is boredom with sex ? Hot climate, primitive people- lots of sex. Contrary to that- sex as dull exchange of fluids. Remember Asimov’s “Foundation” and those people who eventually, due to aversion to physical contact, somehow turned into biological androgynes ?

    2. traditionally, Japanese are not a “romantic people”. Although they imported & adapted Confucianism & Buddhism, they remain proto-totalitarian, unsentimental, pecking-order, humorless, without transcendence & very structured group. Since sex is more in mind than in gonads, their traditional pornography is fiercely sadistic- perhaps due to some kind of repression.

    3. as far as feminism goes- it’s not a significant force in Japan. I’d rather say that hyper-technological society with strict norms of behavior naturally leads people to excesses of alienation and introversion.
    Japan cannot have a birth-rate of 2.1, but it can raise it to 1.7-1.8 through various measures – people are prone to suggestion.

    4. everything is doable. After lost football war, Uruguay’s male population was decimated. So, they introduced temporary polygamy for some years or decades & very quickly demographically recovered.

    Maybe Japanese are showing the way – humans-cyborgs is the future, and masses of uneducated 3rd worlders new slaves.

    • mikejones91

      haha nicely done. Though, I prefer sex in cold weather…hmm. I like the flushing of skin during the cold.

  • We have 30 million illegal invading Mexicans we could send them to solve their shrinking population problems. After all, isn’t that the remedy the multicults would prescribe for such a situation?

  • No, it’s not Japanese women to blame. Essentially, they got-still- not a very nuanced laws: if you’re a woman, then either you have a career or you’re your new nuclear family’s slave (cooking, cleaning etc.). You can’t, as a rule, be employed & have a functioning husband & children.

    Many Japanese women choose career, which still is some kind of life, over dumb routine family slavery. Japanese society needs more flexible laws & I’m surprised that they didn’t alter this sorry state some years ago.

  • Sorry, but this is …. a partial truth, i.e. claptrap.

    1. most women want sex, but they’re different in expressing their desires re time, place etc. Statistically, women do have lower libidos than males, but this is not the issue.

    2. “Unlike men, women don’t get agitated if they aren’t in a relationship”. On the contrary, men are not particularly agitated when not in relationship. Relationships (erotic), marriage etc. mean more to females than to males.

    3. as for childbirth- this is preposterous. Most women I know wanted to have children & didn’t consider the process disruptive or “humiliating”- on the contrary. It’s men who are annoyed & afraid of burden of fatherhood- some of men, of course.

    This post may be description of a particular class of females in some area & profession …. but is, generally, highly atypical.

  • StivD

    Heh, no, I don’t believe that most women have low libidos. They may have a less intense and direct ‘surface’ libido than a man’s, but they enjoy sex. I’ve also known far more women who are unhappy because they aren’t  in a relationship, and sometimes because they don’t have children. <–I have one like that in my immediate family. 

    I really don't like either the stodgily traditional view of women(the idea they don't enjoy sex)or the feminist view. I don't think either one gets women completely right; feminists themselves don't understand women either. {I know I'm not an expert on women either}

    Here or in Japan, if you attempt to analyze them too much you will only end up irking them. 

  • StivD

    It is very presumptive to believe that humans can predict changeable, unpredictable ..humans.. 1000 years down the road, or even 100. Trends within the next generation may be a lot more accurate because you actually know those people. You watch some things unfold in front of you.

  • StivD

    Islamists thought they would conquer the world for Allah long before now.

    • ed91

       they will never conquer the world for allah.   The religion and it’s minions are too  easy to hate.   There has to be some formula, like 72% max before the underground hate begins to overwhelm the established muslim culture.

  • StivD

    Or cloning.

  • The study offers no explanation of why so many Japanese young people are “not interested in sex.” We all know that’s not normal, for ANY group of young people! And the rock-bottom birth rate is similar to those in Eastern Europe, where White people are also trying to exterminate their race by not having babies, and by drinking and smoking like there’s no tomorrow (and there isn’t, for their countries, if there is not a  major change in lifestyle, and soon.)

    Traditionally, Japan has made it very, very difficult for non-Japanese to settle there. As a result, their population is about 98 percent ethnic Japanese. The two Koreas are the same way. But if they don’t start having babies again, they may have to make the big mistake that Europe and North America did — import hundreds of thousands of non-Japanese, probably South Asians in Japan’s case, with higher birth rates, darker skin, and alien religions and lifestyles. In a few generations, Japan as it’s existed for thousands of years, would be unrecognizable.

    Just as Europe and America are becoming.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Eastern Europeans are being asked constantly when they’ll be ready for non-White immigration.  They are White so therefore the next step is non-White immigration from Africa and other detestable places.

      Japan’s population is falling precipitously yet NO ONE in the UN or anywhere else is demanding that they open up their high income homeland to non-White immigration from the Third World.

      Japan has a right to protect their homeland, culture and heritage from non-White invasion.

      Whites also have A RIGHT to protect their homelands,  culture and heritage from non-White invasion. Bon

  • So do the Mormons, the Amish, and the Orthodox Jews — overwhelmingly White American groups who raise large families. And then there’s the Quiverfull Movement, which is overwhelmingly White, too.

    And then there’s my mother’s family — rural Methodists (my grandpa was a preacher). He and Grandma raised 13 kids, who had 44 kids of their own. Grandpa’s brother and his wife had 10 kids and 35 grandchildren. And some liberals think Mitt and Ann Romney have “too many” kids with five!

  • A time span of 1000 years is indeed too far into the future to make even a vague prediction, but that doesn’t preclude one from playing around with math, where you assume that the trend will continue to be constant (which I don’t believe it will – but no one knows whether it will change for the better or for the worse).

    My own research through sources across the world wide web has revealed a birth rate of 1.2 for Japan, where around 40 million citizens will mate and give birth within the next generation (which I assume to have a span of 30 years – that’s the age at child birth).

    These 40 million Japanese will have produced (40 million) * 1.2 births per couple / 2 persons per couple = 24 million new Japanese by 2040. By 2070, the number is 14.4 million.

    So we have an exponential function with a base of (1.2/2) = 0.6, which indicates that any current generation will produce a number of offsprings which is only 60% their number.

    After 3 generations (=90 years), we have 40 million * (0.6)^3 = 8.64 million

    After 6 generations (=180 years):  40 million * (0.6)^6 = 1.87 million

    After 10 generations (=300 years):  40 million * (0.6)^10 = 242 thousand

    So assuming that current birth rate will remain constant at 1.2, the newest generation in 300 years will give birth to only 242 thousand new offsprings (compared to 24 million during the current generation now). Theoretically, after a millenia (which spans 33.3 generations), the newest generation then will produce only:

    40 million * (0.6)^33.3 = 1.64 children – so the last child will be born.

    As I said, it’s very unlikely that current trends will remain unchanged, but the math underlying the article isn’t that far off if no change in trends is assumed.

  • I am aware of the excessive length of my post – but given so many aspects, I don’t know how to compress it further into a smaller length. Thank you for having the patience of reading it all the way through.

  • TonyWestfield

    There is ZERO chance that
    Japan will use immigration to prop up population.  The Japanese would rather see their homeland
    de-populate and revert to wasteland than see their population convert, year by
    year, into something other than Japanese stock.

     

    The Japanese, bless their
    hearts, are historically the most racist people on the planet.  Theirs is a uniquely benign racism, of
    course, because the Japanese have nobody to “take it out on”–within their
    island existence, virtually everybody is Japanese.  They believe, for example, that Blacks are
    monkeys.  This is hard for us civilized
    Westerners to comprehend, but “monkey” is not metaphor or merely pejorative:
    Japanese believe that Blacks are actual monkeys, some of whom manage to
    simulate the life of a human being.

     

    Big surprise, the historical
    pride in being Japanese is diluted in the younger generations.  The culprit (another surprise) is mass media.
    Journalists and scholars have reported on the fashion among Japanese
    youth–specifically the males–to darken their faces with make-up when they go
    out dancing, partying, etc.  It started
    back in the late 1980’s when the Japanese kids wanted to be like Mike (Jackson,
    not Jordan).  Boys believe an “urban”
    look makes them more appealing to Japanese girls.

     

    Final point, the traditional,
    adult Japanese hate the presence of the American military bases at Okinawa and
    elsewhere.  Why?  Clue One: Japanese authorities have
    established at least one prison exclusively for American military personnel
    convicted of crimes in the regular (civilian) Japanese courts, i.e., they don’t
    want the Americans mixing with their Japanese convicts.  Clue Two: The “composition” of the
    occupational American troops is Army, not Marines.

  • TonyWestfield

    Periapsis, not only did you hit the bulls-eye, you are dancing on it.

    The most infamous crime happened about ten years ago when four “American” service personnel gang-raped a young Japanese woman. They made a mess of this poor girl, and the reaction among the Japanese people was uncharacteristically visceral. The four “men” were Air Force, which surprised me at the time, and the offenders had regular names (spelled correctly) like Gregory and Thomas–not a Naquan or Faheem or DaShawn or Donte among them–so the initial news flashes did not indicate what the media instinctively tries to hide. For nearly two days I was unable to find out what sort of “men” were under arrest. Then one of the lawyers got some coverage in the newspapers, and the mystery was solved: I figured there was no chance a White airman in Japan would hire a Black attorney. Within another day or so, the faces of the four offenders were finally revealed in media reports: If Obama had four sons…

    The Japanese powers did many a calculation before they attacked Pearl Harbor, and they expected to win the war, of course, but I bet they didn’t account for ALL the down-side risks of a post-war occupation. If only the Japanese had understood the full measure of America’s diversity…maybe Japan would have chosen to endure the indignities of blockaded trade routes in the Pacific instead of rolling the dice on a war with USA.

    Our diversity is our strength, as we are told constantly by the chattering classes. Maybe the USA could make diversity a part of our Big Stick in strategic negotiations: Dear regime that is hostile to American interests…If you don’t behave, the USA will whack you with our tip of the spear, then the REAL shock and awe will visit you when we send our occupational troops to “diversify” your country for the next hundred years. Yup, that ought to get ANY foe (potentially, even China) to back down before the first shot is fired.

  • WhiteGuyInJapan

     “The Japanese will be fine. ”

    This is my general thought/hope.  Japan may slide down the economic ladder a bit more, but I don’t see it turning into a third world nation.  It may turn into an Asian Luxembourg-high standard of living but somewhat inconsequential internationally. 

    They have kept a great deal of their manufacturing in Japan.  They are importing 60% of their food, but I can see that changing if economic trends continue.  They may not have money for Italian wine and such, so they will simply revert back to a more traditional Japanese diet (cheaper and healthier domestic food). 

    I see the economic excesses of the bubble years as a fluke and predict that the Japanese will just go back to being Japanese.  They’ll be fine.

  • Urban Teacher

    In reply to Stephanie Galonska

    Franklin Roosevelt provoked the Japanese into attacking us by cutting off all their oil (as did the British and Dutch).  The “reason” was to get the Japanese out of Indochina.

    The Japanese offered to negotiate to do just that, but Roosevelt refused, saying that the Japanese should leave first and then he would consider lifting the oil embargo.

    The real reason for the oil embargo was to get the US into WWII by the “back door”.

    • StivD

      So what, they still attacked. I hate that piece of revisionist history. The Japanese were as aggressive as they come.

    • “history” also says all blacks were slaves and all slave owners were White too.  It also lies about The South and it lies about the indians.  It also loves to leave out how the north had slavery too.

      Europeans knew how to grow food long before they set sail and found America but not according to “history”.  Hells Bells, according to “history”, White People never ate before the indians came along and showed them how.

      I don’t care for history because the more I research, the more I find distortions and outright lies.  I’m sorry to be harsh but I’m sick of it.  There’s always some sorry excuse for non-whites and White People are just supposed to say ‘okay, I’m sorry I’m White and I’m sorry my White People hurt you’ while NEVER is that expected from non-whites even though there is literally, a never-ending supply of hurt put upon us from them.

      I cannot play Double Standard.  I just can’t do it.

    • This is true- Roosevelt actually forced Japanese into war. But- which was the alternative ? When I think of it, the US- all pluses and minuses aside- helped build truly functional & prosperous Japanese society and -as much as it was possible- humanized it.

      Japan without WW2 (like the role in WW1) would be slaughterer of the Chinese people & much more , so that I think the outcome would be some kind of genocide over Japanese people when all surrounding nations would rise up against hated oppressor – the fate of Assyrians in ancient world.

      Roosevelt played partially unfair game, but to the end result of greater good for all.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    I am as anti feminist as you can get, but I am always confused as to why the men in this movement put 100% of the blame for everything wrong with our race on white women, when we are obviously the weaker sex. To me this is an extremely offensive dichotomy in that it leads to division in the movement and leads to false ideas about Asian women making better wives. If we are the weaker sex then treat us like the weaker sex. Stop treating us like we are more powerful than men. The hatred that men in this movement show towards their own women really disgusts me. White women can only take so much of it before we abandon the movement.

    • Read Ziwtra’s and Jim’s comments, they are much more relevant.

  • I’d add just a tangential idea (with all those talk about procreation)- choose a significant discipline (physics, music, literature, mathematics,..), consider past 400 yrs- say- and check 100 most important figures in these disciplines.

    You’ll find out that most culture- makers & creative figures were childless, even these old days. Leonardo, Newton, Faraday, Maxwell, Beethoven, Kant, Michelangelo, Weierstrass, W.R. Hamilton, Laplace, Young, Graham Bell,.. Some had bunch of children: Euler, Gauss, Darwin, Dickens,Tolstoy,.. and others simply 1-2: Einstein, Dirac, Descartes, Cauchy, Helmholtz,..

    But, even people who were creative & financially could afford it, frequently- maybe predominantly- chose childlessness or max 1-2 children. So, it’s not something new.

  • “It’s pretty simple: If you empower women through feminism, you get fewer babies. Unlike men, women don’t get agitated if they aren’t in a relationship or having sex.”

    you are definitely correct in my experience. at the root of feminism is the idea that a woman does not need a man, or any relationship outside of herself. that is the fundamental idea behind the theory. they don’t need boyfriends, children, pets….feminism is nothing but women’s endless selfish pursuit of their own wants. sex and the city is the ultimate feminist ideal. being 45, no children, unmarried, still dating and dressing like a teenager, yet successful and educated. no desire to do anything for anyone else.

    i dated a girl for two months who only cared about herself, didn’t need anyone, and said she ‘didn’t want a relationship’. i think she was threatened that i had more education and made more money. her only goal was to be better than men. she is going to end up just like charlize theron in young adult.

  • Global Minority

    “Fearmongering” could be the tactics in order to get the Haps to import alien people. After all it works for White people a;pmg wotj tje 1965 Immgration Act and Aboration being thrown down White’s throats at the time.

  • Global Minority

    You can always a adopt more White children. I know several people who have. Same as you guys. Not able to have any more but wanted more. Best of luck to you guys.

  • Between my father and mother(multiple marriages) I have 14 siblings, there were always a flock of kids in the house. My wife and I had 3,and adopted 4 more. The concept of a single child is completely foreign to me. I lived in Japan for 4 years, the women I knew were feminine and had no problem getting married. Big city attitudes are always screwed up.Talk to the rural people and you will get a different attitude

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    The elite don’t see this..

    I disagree.  

    I think the elites DO see this and promote it; they know exactly what they are doing which is a focused, five decade War on Whites — to eliminate White homelands, White culture and White heritage.  

    Non-Whites are allowed to immigrate into White homelands freely and procreate as much as possible due to government assistance paid for by satanic taxes levied against Whites,  forcing us to limit the size of our families.

    Folks, it’s that simple.  No use for long drawn-out, intellectual, over-wrought explanations.  

    The elites that run the government, media and the schools are genocidal  anti-White.  The empirical evidence is all around us.

    Bon

  • Exactly.  White People should not care about people who do not care for them.  Are non-whites concerned about our Population and the Preservation of our Culture?

    I reckon I could be wrong but so far, all I’ve ever seen is a bunch of complaints, demands and expectations from non-whites to be included and of course, the inclusion of their Foreign Culture/Languages/Values/Traditions/Religions….

    Look at the “american” calendar.  islam has no history here yet they have their “holidays” on our Calendars.  (india)ns has no ties here yet they have their “holidays” on our calendars.  Same for all non-whites.

    The (indi)an girl who got to keep her nose ring because it’s her “culture” yet the Americans still had to abide by the dress code.

    Driver’s License tests come in many different languages yet our Road Signs are in English.  Same for “Vote Here” signs.

    Let me stop.  Were I to write down all their privileges, I’ve never be able to end this post.

  • StivD

    I’m not interested in the idea of everything being a conspiracy. I’m not paranoid.

    • Anon12

      More than likely BECAUSE you are the paranoid one or delusional?

      • StivD

        Congratulations, that makes no sense. 

        Sometimes the slightly weird rati0nalizations, and distortions of history and plain facts from some here, gets in the way of a simple defense of white people and society. 

        This should be a site only for whites making their voices heard; the rest is a waste of time. 

  • StivD

    True, I’m not a religious fanatic. It’s a burden I’ll bear.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     Agree completely.  This is a setup for calls for immigration quotas.  Japan is doing what Europe and White, Western countries were doing naturally before the non-white third world began invading it, and Western socialism took it up as a means to bring a that supposed fictional world utopia via the destruction of the white race.  The British Isles could be an outstanding cache of white genetics, but they were not as “racist” as the Japanese have been.

  • Matt Strictland

     In the US sure to some degree (though White birth rates were at European levels for several decades when the country was less diverse)  but Japan is nearly 100% Japanese and many of these other areas are much less diverse than the US is.

    Its not a race issue there.

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