Two Arrested in Brutal Hammer Beating in Seminole

Gary Taylor, Orlando Sentinel, April 2, 2012

A tip to Crimeline has led to the arrests of two men in a brutal beating that occurred a week ago in the Midway community east of Sanford.

Julius Ricardo Bender, 18, and Yahaziel Isaac Israel, 19, face charges of attempted first-degree murder, burglary with assault or battery and armed burglary.

The victim, a 50-year-old Winter Springs man whose name has not been released, is on life-support at Orlando Regional Medical Center.

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According to arrest affidavits:

A witness told deputies he heard someone screaming for help and saw two men pull the victim from his vehicle. He said he watched as one man held the victim and the other beat him in the head with a hammer.

After they dragged the victim into the woods, the men drove away in his sport utility vehicle, which was later found abandoned about a half-mile away on Garbo Jack Lane.

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[Editor’s Note: The CofCC is reporting that a reader emailed the Orlando Sentinel and received a reply indicating the victim is white.]

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  • What’s with one of them having a Hebrew name?  I bet he’s one of these black Hebrew-Israelite nut cases, or he’s the son of one.  Those are the types that believe that black Americans are the “true Jews,” “God’s chosen people,” (yeah, I know, insert laugh tracks here), and therefore think the real Jews are “diabolical fakers.”  IOW, they’re the black analog to Christian Identity.

    St. Louis had one of these with a regular radio show about a decade ago, he called himself “Jacob Israel.”

    • redshirts
      • ed91

         we bad

    • Oil Can Harry

      The Yahweh Ben Yahweh cult? They were thought by many to be guilty of a Zebra Killings-style massacre of whites in Florida.

      http://tinyurl.com/5p5bdr

    • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism

      It seems like the misguided nut cases that attacked an innocent man had very good teachers, since the 19th century the WASPS have appropriated a Jewish world view that they are “special” and that they are  a “master race” “god’s chosen people” etc.

      •  Yes, I am roughly familiar with the history of extreme philo-Semitic cults.  There  are more holes in the “history” that Hebrew-Israelites and Identities use to claim that they’re “the true Jews” than a square mile piece of Swiss cheese.  But as wrong-headed for any white Gentile to believe it, it’s pure insanity for any non-whites to believe it.  Black Americans, God’s chosen people?  If that’s what God chooses, then I think it’s time we gave Satan a second look.

  • kminta

    “Horrific black-on-white beating east of Sanford probably won’t receive national coverage.”

    Just as incidents of white-on-white crime doesn’t receive coverage on this site either. 

    You guys here are so quick to point out the media’s double standard of race and crime, but refuse to acknowledge your own hypocrisy on the same subject matter. Know this: while it is wrong of the liberal media to cover up black-on-white criminal offenses, to turn a blind eye towards the evil that whites do makes you folks here no better than the Marxist bias that you so vehemently condemn so much. If you pro-white types want respectability, hypocrisy is not the way to get it.

    Right is right and wrong is wrong. Period!

    • holyflower

      kminta: “incidents of white-on-white crime doesn’t receive coverage on this site either.”

      White-on-white crime is a topic the mainstream media, with its vast  resources has the ability to cover and does.  It is not a taboo subject for them, as is black-on-white crime.  

      Racial correctness dictates taboos mainstream media editors, broadcasters, reporters violate at great peril to their livelihoods.  This site is for addressing important but taboo subjects.  Nobody loses a job or faces financial ruin for covering white-on-white crime.  The white murders of a Connecticut family in a burglary gone bad got national coverage. 

      No career was put a risk by that coverage.  You will never see national mainstream media coverage of minority-on-white violence unless it is so horrific as to force the media to cover it as in Virginia Tech slaughter of 32 young people or the Fort Hood murder of 13 soldiers and wounding of 32 more.

      Most mainstream media reporters, editors, broadcasters probably felt as did Army Chief of Staff General George W. Casey, Jr after the Fort Hood:

       
      “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”

      But there was no avoiding that it happened.

    • Up yours!  We don’t need you to be our gauleiter.

      • kminta

        Go screw yourself, Steve! It’ll take a lot more than hurtling insults at me to negate the fact that you’re a hypocrite when it comes to race and crime.

        Oh, and holyflower, please explain to me how black-on-white crime is somehow worse than white-on-white crime. (Or other criminal offenses.)

        • holyflower

          kminta: “…please explain to me how black-on-white crime is somehow worse than white-on-white crime.”

          For the white victim, the effect is the same.   But black-on-white crime is different in at least two ways: 1) coverage tends to be local and circumspect and 2) a fair amount of black-on-white crime could be prevented if whites knew the statistical reality of inter-racial crime, that is that when a black and a white come in contact, it’s vastly more likely that the white will become a victim than the black.

          As to the latter point, many more whites would know this if reporters took their cue from sites like Amren.com and Vdare.com.  They would know this and take preventive measures, and lives would be spared. 

        • gemjunior

          kminta:
          Channon Christian & Chris Newsome – total media cover up.  I think that A LOT OF WHITE PEOPLE would have been very interested in that story.  They’d also be interested to know about the 13 year old set on fire.  And the college girl killed, and the autistic kid bullied, and the scores upon scores of real racially motivated crimes against whites by blacks simply through HATRED of whites and not a peep from the media let alone equal treatment.
          I think it’s you who is a hypocrite – how dare you spout this nonsense at people who are actually trying to save themselves and each other from rapes, robberies and beatings that result from “diversity”.  Go back one page April 2, and press te video of a white man struck in the head who falls to the ground, is stripped naked and left for dead.  Get a grip on reality here.  You are one thick person if you cannot see what is going on and have the balls to call the people on this site “hypocrites”?  Sounds like the lying, hypocritical media has a fan in you.  I think you are seriously deluded.

          • kminta

            My point is that you people refuse to recognize the wrongs perpetuated by your own, against your own. Being so pro-white, I would think that crimes being committed against whites BY WHITES would be of equal concern to you people. Again, explain to me how black-on-white crime is more reprehensible than other criminal offenses. The last time I checked, crime is crime. So long as justice is served in those cases, does it really matter what race the victim and the perpetrator is, or how much attention such cases get?

            The problem here is that you folks here reject moral equivalency when it comes to crime and race. There are many, many stories of white-on-white crime that don’t receive that much media attention. Why no uproar over that? All that matters to you folks is whether criminal is non-white and the victim is white; and there lies your hypocrisy.

            So long as you guys continue to express greater concern over non-white-on-white crime while deliberately ignoring white-on-white crime, you really are no better than the liberal double standard as far as I’m concerned. Again, right is right and wrong is wrong. PERIOD!!!

          • No

            “My point is that you people refuse to recognize the wrongs perpetuated by your own, against your own. . . . The problem here is that you folks here reject moral equivalency when it comes to crime and race.”

            Well Kunta, your point is wrong.  The problem here is that your argument is specious . . . one might even say sophistic.

            First of all, where did you get the idea that this is a story about CRIME?  The Skittle Boy saga isn’t about crime, it’s about left-wing media manipulating facts, race huslers stirring up trouble, pandering politicians fighting for power  and how it’s used to demonize whites.   People like me see in this story everything we’ve been warning about for years.

            “Right is right and wrong is wrong” – OK, sure.  So if right was right, this would be a local news story just like most black on black or white on white murders.   But it’s not, is it?  Somehow, this story has been elevated to the national spotlight.

            We ask WHY? 

            You don’t offer a “why.”  You are here to deflect and obsfuscate.  You try to redefine this as a referendum on how white racialists view ALL crime. 

            Either you don’t understand that (which makes you a fool) or you are lying about not understanding it . . . which makes you a liberal.

            Fool or liberal . . . pick one.

        • If you think gauleiter is an insult, then maybe you’d better look the word up in a German-English dictionary. And maybe you’d better look up “hurtling” in an English-Ebonics dictionary while you’re at it.

          • kminta

            Maybe if you didn’t say “Up Yours” to me, I would not have taken it as an insult. Perhaps you should think twice before saying things that you don’t mean.

          • We will defend our own and we’ll stand up to your sort. Screw guilt! You can’t play that card any more. And guess what? You can’t play the race card either.

          • ed91

             the propaganda-drenched fool called kminte or whatever is probably spinning right now trying to think about the replies he has received.  If he has enough sense to read them and understand their logic versus his public-school indoctrinated white-hatred and guilt.

    • The_Bobster

      Kunta Kinte, the NY Daily Snooze goes out of its way to find and publish White-on White crimes, even if they have to look 3000 miles away to find them.  It’s their way of balancing out the large number of zulu crimes that occur on their very doorstep.

      I get a good chuckle at the marginally literate bantus posting there who actually believe that this proves we’re all the same.

    • Afrikanerhart1

      Flagged for trolling.

      Why don’t you go find a site that you are a better “fit” for?

    • IstvanIN

      White on white crime is akin to man bites dog.  Black on white crime is more like dog bites man.  One is uncommon and gets lots of coverage.  The other is common and covered up.

      To the PETA people: I am well aware that dogs are both more law abiding and more civilized than African Americans so please do not flame me.  Thanks.

      • saxonsun

        Good one!

    • ViktorNN

      You seem a bit slow, so I’ll spell things out very clearly for you.

      The point of posting articles like these is to show at least two things:

      1) That black on white interracial crime rarely gets national news coverage, while white on black interracial crime is much more likely to.

      2) When it comes to interracial crime, blacks are much more likely to victimize whites than the other way around.

      Something tells me explaining this to you will either fall on deaf ears or be beyond your cognitive capacity to understand, but what the heck, I tried.

    • JackKrak

      “…to turn a blind eye towards the evil that whites do makes you folks here no better than the Marxist bias that you so vehemently condemn so much.”

      Examples, please.

      • kminta

        Gee, where should I start? I’ll begin with the horrific home invasion and murders/rapes of a Connecticut man’s wife and daughters some time back. Why no coverage about that crime on this website? In addition, why didn’t American Renaissance cover the case of Josh Powell, who murdered his own sons and is suspected in the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell?
        (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/josh-powell-susan-powell-missing-utah_n_1392756.html?ref=crime) Why no mention about the case of Kimberly Saenz, an ex-nurse who was convicted by murdering 5 people by injecting them with bleach? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/03/kimberly-saenz-life-in-prison_n_1399139.html?ref=crime) Why hasn’t this pro-white forum base covered the case out in Dallas, Texas about a couple starving to death their son, who had to resort to eating his own feces to survive?(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/johnathan-ramsey-aaron-elizabeth-ramsey-son-starved-texas_n_1396884.html?ref=crime) Why didn’t you pro-whites get into an uproar about the murders of white children like Polly Klaas, Megan Kanka and Adam Walsh by other whites? Why no condemnation of Bernard Madoff, the architect behind this country’s biggest ponzi scheme? I could go on, but I think you see my point by now.While you may think otherwise, crime is crime. But it seems to me that, for you folks, crimes committed by certain people is somehow worse than crimes perpetuated by one’s own. I’m not letting the liberal media off the hook by not giving enough emphasis on non-white-on-white crime; not by a long shot. But I would think that whites like yourself would take the high ground and not look the other way when it comes to race and criminal acts. Objectivity is all I ask from both sides of the racial spectrum.

        • saxonsun

          You are STILL not getting it.

      • kminta

        Hmm…where should I start? I’ll begin with the horrific home invasion and rapes/murders of a Connecticut man’s wife and daughters some years back.  (http://crime.about.com/od/current/a/connecticut_invasion.htm) Why no coverage about that on this website? Also, why didn’t American Renaissance talk about the case of Josh Powell, who killed his own two sons and is suspected in the disappearance of his wife, Susan Powell?  (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/05/susan-powell-case_n_1405581.html?ref=crime) Where were white advocates like yourself when former nurse, Kimberly Saenz, was convicted of murdering five people by injecting them with bleach and sentenced to life in prison? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/03/kimberly-saenz-life-in-prison_n_1399139.html?ref=crime) 

        Why no outrage from you pro-whites about the murders of white children like Polly Klaas, Megan Kanka and Adam Walsh? Oh yeah, that’s right…those horrible crimes were all committed by other whites? And I can’t recall this website ever condemning Bernard Madoff, the mastermind behind this country’s biggest ponzi scheme in which the vast majority of his victims were white. I could go on, but I think that you see my point by now.

        This is what I’m talking about when I say that you guys are no better than those in the media who deliberately cover up or show no outrage over certain types of crimes. Of course racial differences matter. But when it comes to crime, the race of the victim and the perpetrator should be irrelevant.

        •  It’s too bad you’re too dense to realize that you just made our own point for us with that soliloquy slash rant.  I’ll give you until the Final Jeopardy music stops playing to figure out how and why, and the irony of what you just said.

          • kminta

            You know, maybe you’re right. Perhaps I am too dense to see how black-on-white crime is somehow worse than other kinds of criminal offenses. If all you care about is the degree of attention certain crimes get, rather than justice being served in each criminal case, then possibly it is you who is too thick.

            But hey, I tried my best to show you people your own double standard; which is really no different than the bias seen in our national media. If you still want to indulge in your own prejudice reporting, knock yourself out.

            Has the Final Jeopardy music stopped yet?

          •  No, not yet.  For your benefit, I’ll let it play on for awhile longer.

            (Waiting)

            (Waiting)

            Okay, music has stopped, and you still don’t know, so I’ll help you along.

            You named the white criminals above because you know about them, and you know about them because the media haven’t stuffed them down a memory hole like they do most black crime.  You’ve heard of Ken Lay?  Yes.  You’ve heard of Franklin Raines?  Probably not.  Very similar white collar criminals.  We could supply other similar examples.

          • kminta

            QD,

            You’re right. I don’t know much about who Franklin Raines is. But before I mentioned her, you probably didn’t know who Kimberly Saenz is either. 

            Enough with Jeopardy. Let’s play “Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?”

            For the million-dollars jackpot, here is the question: 

            What is the difference between nonwhite-on-white crime and white-on-white crime? Is it:

            (a) The degree of attention both types of crimes get.
            (b) Nonwhite-on-white crime is worse than any other sort 
                   of criminal offense.
            (c) White-on-white crime is worse than any than any sort 
                   of criminal offense.
            (d) There is no difference.

            Oh, I’m sorry. But the correct answer is D; and you wanna know why? Because crime is crime and justice being served in each criminal case should be more important than the attention it gets from the national media.

            I’m sorry that you didn’t win. But as a consolation prize, you get to indulge in your own bias all you want. Enjoy!

          •  The real answer:

            (e) None of the above, because nonwhite-on-white crime is far more frequent than white-on-white, but gets far less media attention.

            I’ll accept my grand prize now, a first class grand tour of Europe.

          • ed91

            no way are you black…….  you write too well.

            but for a white, your writing is about average at best.

          • kminta

            So FREQUENCY is the key word here, correct? Sounds to me like you care more about numbers and attention than justice for white victims. 

            While it may be true that whites have more to fear from blacks and hispanics, it is also true that whites have even less to fear from other nonwhites like Asians, Arabs and Indians. (That is if you believe crime stats from Jared Taylor’s book, “The Color of Crime.”)

            Sorry, QD, but you lose again. Only certain nonwhites are a danger to whites. Other nonwhites like the ones I’ve mentioned are even more law-abiding than the average white. But I guess that little fact means nothing to you, obviously.

          • So FREQUENCY is the key word here, correct? Sounds to me like you care
            more about numbers and attention than justice for white victims.

            Sorry, it’s just the accountant in me.  But go ahead.

            While it may be true that whites have more to fear from blacks and
            hispanics, it is also true that whites have even less to fear from other
            nonwhites like Asians, Arabs and Indians.

            I don’t fear Asians, Arabs and Indians from a day to day street crime prospective.  But on the other hand, I did lose a very good job recently as a result of Indian SBA loan scammers, and as far as Arabs, well, even if I had that kind of money, I wouldn’t exactly rent office space near the top of a very tall building anymore.

            Then there’s the other matter:  Even if certain non-white groups never committed any crimes and had average IQs of 200, it’s not germane to me because they’re not us, they’re not white.  All that glitters is not gold, or crime stats, or IQ psychometric studies.

          • kminta

            “I don’t fear Asians, Arabs and Indians from a day to day street crime prospective.  But on the other hand, I did lose a very good job recently as a result of Indian SBA loan scammers, and as far as Arabs, well, even if I had that kind of money, I wouldn’t exactly rent office space near the top of a very tall building anymore. ”

            Sorry to hear what happened to you. But since we’re talking about crime in general here, your safe bet is still with the three races that I mentioned. I hear you on avoiding tall buildings nowadays. But what are the chances of another 9/11 occurring in country again? (I’m talking to the accountant in you.)

            “Even if certain non-white groups never committed any crimes and had average IQs of 200, it’s not germane to me because they’re not us, they’re not white.  All that glitters is not gold, or crime stats, or IQ psychometric studies.”

            Indeed, Indians, Asians and Arabs aren’t white. Most of them are generally hardworking, industrious and studious on average from my understanding; which is why I’d feel even safer around them than being around the average white. 

            Funny how that works, isn’t it? Whites like you would rather risk being robed, raped or murdered by your own kind than be around someone who may not be like you, but is, percentage-wise, less likely to do you harm. But hey, take your chances.

            You want to indulge in your petty prejudices, go right ahead. But should a white person assaults you, just remember what I said about certain nonwhites.

        • ed91

           I posted this above–  I hope you can read it.
          the propaganda-drenched fool called kminte or whatever is probably
          spinning right now trying to think about the replies he has received. 
          If he has enough sense to read them and understand their logic versus
          his public-school indoctrinated white-hatred and guilt.

          • kminta

            I’m BAAAAACK!!!

            What makes you think that I’m white, ed? Because of my high IQ; because I defy the black stereotype whites like you hold so close to their hearts? Or maybe it’s because I’m a far more competent writer than you, who writes like a third grader? 

            Here’s some advice: work on both your punctuation and grammar skills and try to graduate from elementary school first before engaging a mature adult like myself in intelligent conversation.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       I am posting this even though you edited out the examples you first provided.  I want this rebuttal and information to be read, so that whites can be reminded and know that people like kminta distort facts as a habit of mind.

      As follows;

       First, the MSM purposely chooses to present obsessive coverage on white
      crimes, while ignoring the vastly higher amounts coming from the black
      and Hispanic communities for a reason; the reason being to prevent an
      outcry and justify action against those communities by outraged whites. 
      This is also why entertainment media usually glorifies blacks and
      presents whites as perps most often when the real stats would dictate
      differently.

      But you are way off on the Polly Klaas case.  I am from that area and
      was there when that crime occurred.  I even knew a prison guard at the
      county prison where Davis was held during the trial.  Davis is an
      American Indian, not a white.  Any photo of him proves without a doubt
      that he is not white.  And there was a nation wide uproar.  Mark Klaas
      formed the Polly Klaas Institute as a result of this horrific crime and
      the lack of real justice in the case. 

      But there was another case, just a little further north that got less
      attention because of the power of this case and the fact that it was an
      illegal Hispanic and the local wine and real estate industries didn’t
      want any further bad press for the region (Sonoma County) where both
      real estate and the wine industry caters to both investors and Hispanic
      farm workers.  It even became the practice for local newspapers to not
      publish the names of people arrested in the Police/Sheriff Reports,
      because they were/are 90% Hispanic.

      In this other case, two 13 year old girls, both white, one the most
      popular girl in the school, beautiful, high achiever, (and yes, blonde)
      was offered a ride by the uncle of a fellow Hispanic student.  They took
      them to a river, loaded them with meth and raped them.  The uncle went
      to a local bar and  was overheard by another man while he bragged about
      the incident.  That man became concerned and drove down to the river the
      perp had described.  He found the surviving girl walking up the road
      with only her top on and obviously drugged.  A search ensued for the
      other girl and she was only found floating at the downriver reservoir a
      couple weeks later.  The surviving girl said that they were so out of
      their minds that they were eating rocks and that the perp threw them
      both into the river when he and his nephew had finished with them.  He
      fled to Mexico and was never located.

    • Beloved Comrade

      You are trying to justify black-on-white crime and you are doing a lousy job of it.

      Calling us hypocrites does not justify this:  

      *Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

      * Black illegitimacy rate of 70%

      Here a question for you: 

      When is the black community going to stop blaming all of their problems on whites and take a look at themselves?  

      • kminta

        “When is the black community going to stop blaming all of their problems on whites and take a look at themselves?”

        I couldn’t agree with you more on that statement. As someone who wants not only the best for my own people, but for all people as well, I always tell my fellow blacks to look within themselves and do less of blaming others for their shortcomings. Unfortunately, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have brainwashed most blacks to the point where pointing fingers at others has become second nature for them. Nevertheless, I do my best to be an advocate of personal responsibility; and if I somehow manage to change at least one black person’s racial attitudes, then I feel that’s something.

        To use “black slang”, don’t get it twisted! In no way am I excusing or justifying black-on-white violence. Such criminal acts are reprehensible and should be condemned as such. But what you fail to see is your own bias in recognizing crimes committed by white as opposed to crimes committed by blacks and other nonwhites. My question to you is…WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE???

        If your response is that there is a difference, then there lies your hypocrisy. Unlike most of you, I believe in moral equivalency. If you want to be just like our liberal media and indulge in bias reporting, well, then, like I said, you really are no better than the double standard that you’re so quick to demonize.

        • Beloved Comrade

          Here’s the difference:

          Blacks live in black areas yet blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.  This means blacks actively hunt whites for murder, rape and torture.

          Moral equivalency?  That’s new age, utopian nonsense.  I don’t have two guard dogs and loaded guns because of my white neighbors or a fear of white flash mobs.

          Even Jesse Jackson said he was relieved when he turned around and spotted whites instead of blacks following him. 

          • kminta

            Took you long enough to reply. Let me guess: you were having difficulty coming up with a clever response.

            As I mentioned in another post, the key word here is frequency. I’ll admit, black-on-white crime is a more common occurrence than visa versa. But what about Asian-on-white crime, or Arab-on-white crime or Indian-on-white crime? You wanna talk about numbers, look up the stats from Jared Taylor’s book, “The Color of Crime” and you’ll see how those nonwhite groups are even less likely to perpetuate crimes against whites than white offenders. 

            But once again, certain facts such as those are commonly excluded from this website. Can you say “hypocrisy?”

          • Beloved Comrade

            Meanwhile, back in reality:

            How about I was out of town on business.  
            Someone has to pay for all the black welfare leeches who breed like rabbits.

            Maybe you are one of them since you seem to have a lot of time to post on this site?

            I could not care less if blacks or Asians or Hispanics wish to kill each other and the frequency with which they do. All have race-based organizations that they can whine to. 

            This is a pro-white issues site.  If you are concerned about black crime, take yourself over to The Root and whine over there.  Ditto with Asian and Hispanic sites.

            I am only concerned with white survival and that there is a concerted effort starting at the highest reaches of this government to eliminate and eradicate whites and white homelands.

            The Religion of Political Correctness Commands what is non-white belongs to non-whites. What is white also belongs to non-whites. Nothing belongs to White people. If whites attempt to preserve anything for our selves we are stealing/denying what rightfully belongs to the entire non-white world.
            Let me ask you this:

            When did you become so anti-white?

          • kminta

            Still, it shouldn’t have taken you so long to get back to me. (Ever heard of wifi?) I’ll go with my first assumption that you were stuck trying to come up with an intelligent reply.

            FYI, just because I’m black (gainfully employed with a Masters degree and an overall productive member of society, by the way) doesn’t mean that I’m anti-white. Read my comment over at http://amren.com/news/2012/04/whites-are-mostly-missing-at-trayvon-martin-rallies/ and you’ll see that, unlike you, I take pot shots at both sides of the racial spectrum. 

            (Man, some people just can’t tolerate some constructive criticism; especially when it puts them in the hot seat.)

            If you expect me to choose a side on the issue of race, sorry, but you’re out of luck. I’m a neutral, which means that criticize everyone indiscriminately. So get use me and my objectivity. 

            Enjoy the rest of your day!

          •  You seem to be concerned about the length of time that some of us take to compose responses to you.  It’s as if we’re all that concerned about you.  In reality, we don’t think AR much less the world in general revolves around you.

            You are atypical of black men and women in your civil libertarianism, but your ego and self-importance fits the stereotype.

          • kminta

            Well, look who decided to return to the conversation!?!

            Is that the best you can come up with? I present on this website the possibility that they are, in reality, no better than the Marxist Liberal establishment with their bias and obscuring of the truth, all you can say to that is that I’m egotistical and indulging in self-importance? 

            Great comeback, QD. Nice!

            Stereotype me all you want. But if you really want to disprove my claims, present to me with actual proof that both you and this web forum are not bias and, thus, hypocritical in its reporting of crime and race. 

            Don’t take too long; because I have a life to get back to.

          • ed91

             it’s vice versa, einstein.  

            Copy the states from color of crime and post……..  I don’t believe you.

        • ed91

           whites commit much, much less crime than blacks.  and white crime is usually for a purpose, like money or some thing, while black crime is usually some kind of emotional lash out…….many times because of their racism….

    • ed91

       I think you’re angry about all the indoctrination and propaganda you were put through during your school years.  Doesn’t pan out well in the real world does it?  Have you tried hangin’ out with your black buds and seein’ if they’ll enjoy your company?  That usually smacks some of the liberal out of your head.  Also, if you work, notice how much is taken out of each check.  Remember the 1.5 billion obama just gave the muslim brotherhood in egypt?  that’s your tax money whiner.

      • kminta

        Aww…what’s the matter, ed91? Does the little hypocrite not like what he’s reading?

        The fact that you’re even acknowledging me shows that you know, deep down, that there’s some measure of truth to what I’m writing. Liberal or conservative, I expose the double standards of everyone. None shall be spared from my constructive criticism.

        Oh, and my IQ is 125. Not to shabby for a black guy, don’t you think?

  • WmarkW

    “I am (the unnamed Winter Springs man).”

  • redshirts

    “I had a son, he’d look like Treyvon.”

    Race had nothing to do with it. This was just a random and isolated incident that stemmed from an unfortunate misunderstanding. Our community is enriched and strengthened by its Diversity, and we condem any comments that foster prejudice or try to weaken our commitment to social justice and transformational change.

    These two courageous, distinguished, renowned, and esteemed Diversity Sons of Obama weren’t really “beating” the Whitey. They were just giving him a lesson in Diversity Sensitivity.

    Their African instincts told them that he was the kind of Whitey who causes the Achievement Gap by bitterly clinging to his White privilege, so they were just bringing about social change by unburdening him of his racist tendencies by beating it out of him, just like Channon Christian had her racist tendencies “cured” through kidnapping, robbery, rape, torture, and murder during her Knoxville Horror.

    This so-called “hammer” was just a symbolic representation of Horace Greely’s pen that he used to sign Abolitionist tracts, the pen Abraham Lincoln’s pen that he used to sign his Emancipation Proclamation, the pen Harry Truman used to sign his desegregation order, the pen that Justice Warren used to sign his Brown v. Board, the pen John Kennedy used to sign his non-discrimination Affirmative Action order, the pen that LBJ used to sign his Civil Rights Act, the pen Otto Kerner used to sign his Commission Report, pen Michael Adams used to sign UGA’s Embracing Diversity and Inclusion policy, and the pen that Obama will use to sign his “national emergency order” to postpone elections, “crisis” replacement of five Supreme Court Justices on a “temporary basis,” and activate his long planned, an up till now, secret, “civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded,” and the pen used by “somebody” to sign Obama’s birth certificate.

    You can have White Liberty or you can have Diversity, but you can’t have both, because everybody now knows that Diversity is a vile hate crime against God’s kingdom plan for White privilege and violates White Humanity’s ordained destiny. Anti-Racism is codeword for Anti-White.

  • Sheeeeeit! Deys be goo’ keeids an’ all dat! Deyz jes’ messed up ’bout aw dat Trayvon sheeit! Dis ain’t no reverse racism, muh fuggah.

  • tacheles

    A bit of satire I picked up from the comments on this atrocity reported in the Orlando Sentinel:

    “I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature makes them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people.

    Real estate values are fueled by the mix of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nature of these communities, an example of all they have achieved through their hard work and can-do nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.”

    • gemjunior

      this would be a perfect opportunity for White people to do the exact same thing as blacks are doing about Trayvon, exclaiming how it was not charged as a hate crime etc.  We can have marches demanding more protection from feral negroes.  But as usual I’m dreaming.  White idiots won’t do one dam thing just sit there until they are personally under siege.  I say we don’t wait till then. 

      • They’ll continue to buy guns and ammo. When the race riots come, TV news crews will be greased first.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    heres a case out of my hood; two blacks set a female dog on fire for sport and people are too scared to testify.
    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-phoenix-contempt-20120403,0,3991914.story

    • gemjunior

      they are utterly disgusting and without any normal or natural tendency toward compassion, empathy, anything.  Imagine doing such a thing.  But actually, they do it to humans pretty frequently.  I wish they would leave en masse for their homeland, the dark continent – flee in droves from the persecution by evil YT they are forever on about.  I wonder if they’d go for a lump sum cash payment? and maybe assistance building?  I can dream….

      • They’d probably demand payment in fried chicken, Mickey’s Malt Liquor, grape soda, and watermelon flavored Four Loko.

  • tickyul

    If these type of stories make it to places like DU or Huff……..well, they usually get less than 10 comments.

    The Trayvon story, a KKK Krakurr (LOL) slaughtering a poor, innocent, saintly Urban American Yute……thread after thread and hundreds if not thousands of comments.

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

    asian has brain damage after beating by black mob of 30
      http://www.citypages.com/2012-04-04/news/flash-mobs-attack-minneapolis/

    • Uh huh, a flash mob of “youths.” When will the gutter press start calling them feral Africans?

  • Youthbrush

    I don’t understand. Shouldn’t the hammer have bounced harmlessly off his white privilege?

  • No

    This almost read like something from the 1800s:  “a white farmer riding his horse into town was attacked by a pair of savages who beat him with a tomahawk before stealing his horse.”

    At least modern negros don’t scalp people (yet).

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      To read some real stuff from the 19th century, search; “A Fate Worse than Death,” Michno.  This is the history of whites in captivity during the Western Expansion.  You won’t be able to put it down, any of you.

  • KenelmDigby

    I’m afraid to say that if blacks didn’t act like this, then vigilantes like Zimmerman would not be intrinsically suspicious and hostile to blacks.
    It’s a case of ‘give a dog a bad name and hang it’.

    • blacks of Today really know no better.  In one sick sense, I don’t blame them.  They only know Instinct.

      They act and react and that’s it.  Thinking is not a process for them, it’s just action and that’s it.  They need Direction.  You can’t blame them for acting upon their Nature when it was after all, “white people” who gave it to them.  Freedom is not something they are able to handle.  No Shame, just, they need to be watched after.  What can I say?

      • 13 years of taxpayer-subsidized head start, government schools and juvenile hall have not given them any direction, so what do you recommend? Thrashings?

        • “Thrashings”?  If that’s what it takes, then yes.

          The problem with People of Today is, they don’t understand people.  Sometimes, you just have no choice but to make clear to them, you don’t do that.  We don’t put our hands on each other.  You can yell, scream, cuss and curse put you can’t put your hands on another in any sort of manner that is meant to do harm.

          As for your Tax Money being Wasted, I have no answer because as of my last complaint to Congress, as usual, they “understand” “will pass on my message” and still, nothing.  Well, not nothing…..there’s always that Sixteen Trillion and Tickin’ Dollar Debt…

    • anmpr1

       Yes.  But I must disabuse you of the notion that Z. was a vigilante.  He was, instead, simply defending himself against a savage beating perpetrated upon his person by a savage.  Defense is not vigilantism.

  • And people still have the Nerve to talk about The Klan.  Half a Century Gone since any ‘wrongdoing’ and Gross Misconduct Put Upon The White Peoples in that very same Half Century.  Two Wrongs Never did make Right.

    Besides, I always did say, Blacks need direction.  Ain’t nothing wrong with that.  Were one to compare Old Black to black people of Today, it’s clear to see.  All they need is a firm hand.  Think of them as unruly retarded children and you’ll do well.  Well, you gotta be able to understand why certain People Rule and why certain People don’t first..

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

       Sometimes, I really like the way you write.

      • What a Compliment!  Thank You!

        I write what I feel and that’s it.  I’m just like you and everyone else here.  I like to write!  Actually, Truth be Told, I hate writing but I can’t keep myself from doing it.  It’s weird and I can’t explain it.

    • I like your flag. Have one myself, proudly displayed on my kitchen bar.

      • Thank You but, you know she doesn’t belong to me.  She belongs to Our Beloved South!

        Proudly Displayed – Yes Sir!  And I, like you, will Never Lay her Down!

  • haroldcrews

    Jim Crow needs to return. It is no more unjust to treat people who are different the same as it is to treat people who are the same differently. Blacks have substantially lower IQs, higher incidences of family dysfunction, a tendency to commit violence and higher rates of criminality. These are facts and can not be seriously disputed. To deny them is to live in delusion. There is no perfectly just system but Jim Crow would be better than what we have now. Nothing will destroy a society more quickly than widespread random violence.

  • jackryanvb

    In these types of stories, activists need to put together their own contact lists of local officials, local reporters, cultural leaders and engage in a dialogue and then present these types of articles and ask why these stories are being suppressed by the MSM? Try to use links to non WN sites first.

  • saxonsun

    Excellent post–you nailed it.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    You ought to know by now that blacks steal names from any culture that seems sophisticated to them, or just make them up to sound that way.

    • Beloved Comrade

      That’s why “French” names are so popular with blacks, they think using “La” before a name makes it sophisticated and urbane, as in LaTrina.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         And why I really hate it; my entire name is French and I have a genealogical line all the way back to the 11th century.  I am directly descended, father to son from a man who is on the Falaise Scroll listing the companions of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings and was his guardian before he was the duke appointed by Henry l of France.

  • Shawn_thefemale

    Nothing out of the ordinary – in fact, rather tame for blacks’ facebook pages.  Lots of
    “niggas'” in conversations and completeley misspelled words, with friends named Takeisha, Trashawn, etc.   But I’m still stuck on Israel’s page at the family contacts that list ‘Father’.  Seriously??   Granted, it’s not a clickable link, but….father???  He has one and knows its name???   It must be “one that might BE yo daddy.”

  • When I first saw this story on The Thug Report, the first thing that crossed my mind was, “Black perps, White victim.” Then when I read the names of the two arrested, I was certain that I was at least half right. And now, I see that I scored a twofer — although it wasn’t very hard, given the patterns of urban crime in this country.

    Yes, indeed, there will be no national dissemination of any news about this crime. Move along, folks; nothing to see here. But just imagine if the races had been reversed!

  • xxxtonygunsxxx

     below is the website for the states attorney prosecuting mr. zimmerman, i
    urge all amreners to email or write ms. corey a respectful letter
    detailing how as a voter and citizen you feel that mr zimmerman defended
    himself under the law and how you feel that the police acted
    professionally on scene and did a good initial investigation and that
    charges against mr. zimmerman would not be right considering he was
    being assaulted and was forced to defend himself after yelling for help
    with no response. thank you.
    http://www.sao4th.com/

  • kminta

    I see that the moderators here erased most of my comments. Didn’t like what I had to say, huh?!? Typical hypocrisy.

    Look, I’m not denying the numbers: black-on-white crime is more frequent than white-on-black crime, which is something that I, as a black person (by the way) condemn fiercely. What I find unsettling on this website is how you guys are deliberately doing the same thing that you preach against; which is reporting crimes that you deem fit to post while ignoring the rest. Don’t you see how that makes you folks here no better than MSM, Fox News, CNN, the New York Times and other mainstream media outlets?

    While this may fall on death ears to some, if not, most of you, but all I ask of you pro-white folks out there is to at least try to lead by example and be more objective when reporting incidents of criminal offenses. That, in my mind at least, would show that you folks are better than those who are don’t play by the rules.

  • kminta

    Still deleting my comments, I see. To quote Thomas Jefferson: “There is not a truth existing which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world;” which I believe is the central theme of this website. Apparently, the truth about this website’s hypocrisy is something the moderators would wish unknown to the world.

    But you know what, I’m done trying to be reasonable with you folks. You wanna indulge in your own double standard, knock yourselves out! As for me, I’m going to be as bias-free as I possibly can. Those of you who feel that ALL media outlets should be objective are free to join me in this endeavor.

  • kminta

    Still deleting my comments, I see. To quote Thomas Jefferson: “There is not a truth existing which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world;” which I believe is the central theme of this website. Apparently, the truth about this website’s hypocrisy is something the moderators would wish unknown to the world.

    But you know what, I’m done trying to be reasonable with you folks. You wanna indulge in your own double standard, knock yourselves out! As for me, I’m going to be as bias-free as I possibly can. Those of you who feel that ALL media outlets should be objective are free to join me in this endeavor.

  • Loves $$$$, the Bible, women, and playing with his willy. No mention of bashing up whitey with a hammer. Actually, the pair of them had nothing going on at all. In fact I saw the profile of two garden variety pavement apes who will ever be a drain on civilized society.

  • Beloved Comrade

    How do you “beat” someone with a hammer? I can see fists or sticks, but a hammer? Wouldn’t that more accurately be called attempted murder with a hammer rather than just “beating?”   Far too soft a term for wailing away on someone’s skull with a deadly weapon.

  • kminta

    So I guess being objective and fair-minded was asking too much of the moderators here, after all. Where the heck are most of my comments? What was it about the things I said does Jared Taylor and those who run this website find uncomfortable? More and more, you guys are exposing your hypocrisy. 

    Thank you for proving me right. You people really are no better than the Marxists Liberals you condemn so much. (I’m just waiting for you guys to delete this comment as well. This will finally show what a bunch of hypocritical jack-asses you all really are.)

    • Beloved Comrade

      Written like a defeated, smug liberal.

      • kminta

        Oh, I’m just getting warmed up, pal! And what makes you think that I’m a liberal? All I’ve done is expose you and this website’s double standard when it comes to reporting race and criminal offenses; which is, again, just as wrong as that coming from our media establishment. 

        The fact that my comment written above you is still present suggests that I’ve at least given the moderators here (and perhaps you) something to think about. So from my point of view, I’m the victor here.

        • kminta

          “Political tolerance”, Mister Moderator? More like the fact that, from an objective viewpoint, you recognize that there’s some degree of truth to what I’m writing. The ‘being too troll-ish’ excuse won’t help you refute the fact that your double standard is really no different than the liberal media’s double standard. But I guess that you prefer your indulge in your own bias, correct?

          You could have deleted my comments at your leisure at any given moment, and have done so. But this time around, you’ve chosen to put up with me for fear that you’ll give yourself away as an intolerant hypocrite(s). And for that, I suppose I owe you a word of thanks for at least trying to be fair with me.

          I have no delusions about what American Renaissance is all about; a pro-white forum base that discusses racial differences and caters to the best interests of whites. And while the liberal media is clearly not being objective in its reporting of race and crime, that doesn’t mean that you folks should stoop to their level. To do so makes you, just our Marxist media, a hypocrite, and, ultimately, no better than double standard that you advocate against. 

          If it makes you guys feel better, I’ve gone on mainstream media forum bases criticizing their reporting bias as well. So don’t think for a second that I’m only attacking you folks. All I ask from you, and our national media, is to be fair-minded and truthful about race and crime. Is that too much to ask?

        • Beloved Comrade

          You anti-white, brainwahsed and are not worth responding to. The issue here is not black-on-black or any other (insert race/ethnic group)-on (insert race/ethnic group) crime.  The issue is white genocide.

          No one is telling Africans, Asians or any other non-whites to flood their homelands with millions of non-Africans or Asians, are they?  It is only white countries that are MANDATED to do this.  Don’t tell us we did this to ourselves, we did not.

          Why should all white countries and only white countries have a moral imperative to admit millions of non-whites so that they become a minority? 

          I am only concerned about white issues and one of them is the fact that blacks hunt whites for murder, torture and mayhem and that this is sanctioned by a white-hating government, DOJ and media that looks the other way.  This is why Ruger has a back order of over a million.

          What you and others of your ilk should be concerned with is this:  blacks are the most hated and reviled race on the face of the earth, bar none.  Blacks do better in white-created cultures and homelands.  If whites disappear do you think Asian or Hispanics will coddle you as whites have done?   You will be eliminated with extreme prejudice.

          If you believe we whites are irredeemably racist, there is a city just for you run and operated by blacks complete with high murder rates:  Detroit.  

          Typical ingrate.  You should be thanking us for providing you with every privilege possible at our expense, instead you despise us and are pro-white genocide.

          • kminta

            “…not worth responding to”? Coming from you, I’ll take that as a compliment.

            But thank you for showing me what a double standard-indulging jerk you are. I always thought that white-on-white crime is white genocide just as black-on-white crime is white genocide. It seems that to you, the genocide perpetuated by blacks is relevant than the massacre of whites by other whites.

            Hey, you don’t like blacks, that’s your right and I, as a black person, could care less. Indeed, my people are far from perfect and need to work on our own internal flaws. But don’t think for a second that you whites are nature’s greatest creation either; at least from the viewpoint of other nonwhites.

            But if you think that us blacks are the main problem in this country, then you obviously aren’t aware of this nation’s immigration problem as other nonwhites flood in, and won’t hesitate to walk all over you and your kind and promote their interests when given the chance. But like you said, blacks are the central reason for America’s discourse.

            Alas! I see that fair-play and being objective is an alien concept to you. So you keep on indulging in your own prejudices. Me, I’m going to continue to expose double standards and hypocrisy wherever I find it.

          • Ingsoc

            The words of a smug defeated lefty.

          • kminta

            Ingsosc,

            The correct words are “triumph over hypocritical jack-asses.”

          • ed91

             Your anger and weak arguments are a pimple on the discussion we enjoy.

        • ed91

           You’ve shown you are a liberal by your tunnel-vision and obstinance.
          The fact that your comment is still here is a credit to the moderators, not you. 
          You’ve exposed nothing about anything except yourself. (see 1st sentence)

    • ed91

       talk about the article bigmouth……….  we’ll do the rehash later……

      see the pic of the two perpetrators?   do you know their crime?   comment on that.

      • kminta

        I see that another hypocrite has decided to join in the conversation. Good, another pea-brain for me to intellectually dissect.  

        I’m not ignoring the two morons who committed this obvious hate crime. They deserve whatever punishment they get. But would it kill you guys to at least attempt to post articles on crimes committed by other racial groups? Or is “black” your favorite color.

        • Ingsoc

          Kiminta just LOVES going on anti-White hate-rants!

          More ad hominem sputtering from a self-described intellectual and more words of defeat.

          Kiminta there’s a place for you. It’s called Detroit. Time to move there and be amongst the people you so dearly love.

          • kminta

            Still removing comments that you don’t like, huh, Mister Moderator?

            Once again, thanks so much for exposing your hypocrisy and proving me right.

          • kminta

            Still whining about black criminality, I see. Can’t seem to talk about anything other than black crime. Not an inkling about white criminality or any other non-black criminality. Like I said, Ray-Ray, I’m really touched that you care so much about my people.

            Hypocrites do what they do. You keep on talking about black crime while I proceed to discuss criminality in general because, unlike you, I’m objective in my thinking and views.

            P.S.: Try to be original in your writing. I’ve known about this Jesse Jackson comment for years.

  • kminta

    I see that the moderators here erased most of my comments. Didn’t like what I had to say, huh?!? Typical hypocrisy.

    Look, I’m not denying the numbers: black-on-white crime is more frequent than white-on-black crime, which is something that I, as a black person (by the way), condemn fiercely. What I find unsettling on this website is how you guys are deliberately doing the same thing that you preach against; which is reporting crimes that you deem fit post while ignoring the rest. Don’t you see how that makes you folks here no better than MSM, Fox News, CNN, the New York Times and other mainstream media outlets?

    While this may fall on death ears to some, if not, most of you, but all I ask of you pro-white folks out there is to at least try to be lead by example and be more objective when reporting incidents of criminal offenses. That, in my mind at least, would show that you folks are better than those who are don’t play by the rules.

    • ed91

       You need a lot of attention………  I doubt if you’ll get much more than a day or two’s worth here though.  You go around in circles too much and you have to stretch to come up with a sensible argument.  Not sure you have yet.  They probably have hot lines near where you live to discuss personality disorders and how to deal with them.  Anger issues too.   They are common.   Just like your inability to see or look. 

  • kminta

    Insults? Whining? Who’s whining and tossing around insults? All I’m doing is holding up the mirror for you all to see your very own hypocritical reflection when discussing criminality and race; and you don’t like what you see. That’s why you’re all coming out of the woodwork and defending your bias against me. Sounds to me like I’ve struck a cord in most of you.

    You call me and the liberal media bias in its reporting of the race of both perpetrators and victims of crime, take a deep, hard look at yourself, buddy! It is usually very difficult for a hypocrite to acknowledge the inherent wrongs of his/her own double standard. I’ve gone on to mention that Indians, Arabs and Asians are even more law-abiding than the average white and are less likely to commit a crime against you. But that little fact wouldn’t mean squat to you, would it? All you care about is black-on-white crime; justice served in such cases be damned.

    Like I’ve said, I’m only getting started with this debate. And because I believe in fair-play, I’m giving you guys sometime to come up with a logical rebuttal to my allegations of this website’s bias. But if we were all to agree to end this discussion now, well, at the risk of sounding egotistical, but I believe we all know who truly won this argument.

    • Ingsoc

      Look.

      Black historical failures are not the fault of us Whites.

       Whites have an average IQ of 100. For blacks, it’s 80-85. That’s due to breeding, genetics and heritability (80% of a person’s IQ is genetically determined). There is no White racist conspiracy to keep non-Whites down.  

      Nature, evolution, and reality are not fair or egalitarian. Darwin knew this centuries ago.

      As a European I take great pride in what we’ve accomplished over the past 2,000 years. Everything you White-haters have, you have because of us. Democracy? That was our invention. Theory of evolution? That was ours too. Computers? Yup, us. Internet? Medicine ? Cars? X-rays? Space flight? Radio? Television? The environmental movement? Classical music? Satellite communication? They only exist because of us.

      Maybe you Blacks should thank us for all that we’ve given you instead of attacking us like the spoiled children that you are. Without Europeans the world would be a cruel and barbarous place. We’ve given you everything, and you give us nothing in return but your impudence and resentment.

      Do us a favor and just shut up.

      • kminta

        No, I don’t think I will shut up. Not until you people start to recognize your own hypocrisy on certain matters.

        Since when did this whole conversation became a game of “blame whitey”? All I have done is expose this website’s double standard when reporting race and crime. I’m not denying for a second the fact that blacks lead the way in criminality; that much is indisputable. What I am getting at is how your kind can’t seem to bring themselves to at least acknowledge the wrong committed by your own…against your own. There lies your double standard and you know it.

        I see that you, like everyone here, has chosen to indulge in your own hypocrisy. Well, that’s your right. Just know that  with each passing moment, my respect for your kind grows less and less so long as you continue to refuse to be objective in looking at racial matters.

        • Ingsoc

          The truth hurts so much that kiminta is reduced to ad hominem sputtering.


          Nothing new here.


      • kminta

        Dear Mr. Moderator, 

        So you admit to indulging in a double standard, I see. Your “agenda” of only reporting black-on-white hate crimes, while deliberately ignoring the crimes of other racial groups, makes you folks here just like the New York Times with its bias/left-wing reporting on race and crime.

        But hey, do what make you feel good. If you people don’t want to be impartial and, thus, morally better than those who aren’t. But you chose to be like those you are supposedly against, and that’s a shame.

        • Ingsoc

          If you think we Whites on AR are irredeemably racist, you’re probably right. Racism is natural and normal, it is normal to want to be around those like oneself.

          All races are “racist” because race is a biological reality. You can’t avoid it anymore than you can avoid gravity. A geneticist can look at a cluster of human genes and tell not only what race he or she is, but he can also tell what region of the country his/her ancestors came from. Race is not just skin color; race determines culture, worldview, politics, and many other aspects of civilization.


      • kminta

        Dear Ingsoc,

        Who’s talking about “racism”? Racism is a topic for another time. Please try to stay focus on the topic discussed here, please.

        I’m merely suggesting that you guys are really no better than those who are truly anti-white. What makes you people any better than those who intentionally leave out stories of nonwhite-on-white crime? Where’s you concern for the victims of white-on-white crime?

        You accuse me of being an ungrateful brat because I won’t get down on both knees and worship whites for all the vast things your race has given to the world; I say you have an over-inflated ego and thinking too high of yourself, which is why you refuse to even acknowledge the wrongs perpetuated by your own…against your own. 

        And “H” is for Hypocrisy.

        • Ingsoc

          Trolls like you always seem to show up when some powerful pro-white discourse surfaces.  You hate it.

          You are still promoting White genocide.

          There wouldn’t be such hatred of White people if White haters like you didn’t preach hatred against Whites.

          We need more White haters like you and Tim Wise jumping up and down screaming over and over “I hate Whites!! I hate Whites!” It wold help our cause.

          White haters like you pretend to have problems with identifying who is White and who is not when people who want to preserve the White race confront you. But at the same time they you have no problems identifying who is White when you talk about slavery, colonialism, wars, discrimination, r-word, and so on.

          Do you think you’ll be safe when you get your wish and we Whites are genocided? You will inherit a world overlorded by Chinese who are busy colonizing Africa as living space for their excess population. They plan to export a billion people to Africa.

          What they plan to do to the blacks who live there will make the Chinese Cultural Revolution look like a White church picnic. China, in case you didn’t know, murdered 70 million of its own people. Imagine what they’ll do to blacks…

  • kminta

    Interestingly, your statistical research on race and crime left those other pesky nonwhites: Asians, Arabs and Indians; whom, based on those same facts, are less likely to commit crimes at all. I may be a duck, but you’re a pigeon to exclude those three racial groups from your racial analysis. 

    No! On second thought, you’re no pigeon; you’re something much worse. You, Ray, are a hypocrite because you know for a fact that Indians, Asians and Arabs are far less likely to be incarcerated for criminal acts than Hispanics, blacks and, yes, even whites. So thank you once again for proving me right by exposing your double standard.

    Let me says this as plainly as humanly possible so that even feeble-minded individuals like yourself can understand: I’m not denying that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime in this country; and that’s something that I personally commend American Renaissance for having the courage to reveal in this still-free nation of ours. But if you’re more concerned about what blacks are doing to whites than what whites do to each other, well, that’s something that is too hypocritical for my taste.

    Bottom line: would it kill you (and other pro-whites here) to take the moral high ground and not be like those you all accuse of being bias? You may think otherwise, but hypocrisy is a two-way street. If you and other whites here continue on this course, eventually, you’re all gonna crash and burn on that same street.

    • kminta

      “The “statistical analysis” you refer to is NOT mine.  If you read more slowly you will find my references are the FBI and the Dept. of Justice which do not include data on Arabs and Indians.  They are not under disussion. We are, in case you missed it, discussing the horrendous preponderance of crimes committed by blacks, as opposed to ANY other ethnicity for which the FBI and Dept. of Justice collect crime stats.”

      Well, then perhaps Asians, Arabs and Indians SHOULD be under discussion since they’re so conveniently left out of this debate. Why is that? Could it be that those three groups barely register on crime scale according to FBI statistics? Could it be that they’re even more law-abiding and are less likely to commit crime than the first three group (that includes whites) who lead the pack in crime?

      “Blacks lead the pack, Hispanics take 2nd place, whites 3rd, and of the four major ethnities for which crime stats are collected by the FBI and DOJ, Asians are least likely to commit criminal acts.  But, if you have data for Indians and Arabs, your smoke-screen minorities, for which the FBI and the DOJ have failed to collect, you might consider doing them a favor and passing on your heretofore unknown inside information. ”

      Once more, little grasshopper, you fail to see the forest from the trees. I fully acknowledge that black crime is out of control in this country, but it takes two (or in this case, everyone) to tango. If all you care about is crimes committed by blacks against whites, rather than taking into consideration the crimes committed by everyone (and that includes your own kind), well, then I’ve once again exposed your double-standard and hypocrisy.

      Justice is the essential word here when considering crime in general. Blacks may have only themselves to blame for having made “criminality” and “black” synonymous with each other. But by turning a blind eye towards the criminality of everyone else makes you, ultimately, no better than those in our media who cover up black criminal acts.

    • ed91

       Underneath your anger is the sickly smell of a wimp.

  • kminta

    Wow! Real original, Ray-Ray. Like I haven’t read this article on black-on-white crime before. I would think that a “smart” guy like yourself could have come up with a better rebuttal on your own than to copy and paste some old piece just to get your point across.

    Once again, all you’re talking about is black-on-white violence. Haven’t we stretched this elastic waist band for as long as it can go? Like I’ve already told Question Diversity, only certain nonwhites pose a danger to whites. Other nonwhites like Indians, Asians and Arabs are just as fine, if not better, than your kind.

    But again, you’d rather risk being victimized by your own kind than to be around someone who is less likely to do you harm. Hey, that’s your right. Just remember who is less likely to commit a crime against you find yourself confronted with a white versus an Asian.

    • kminta

      “Whether the piece is old or new is irrelevant…”

      Actually, it is relevant because it demonstrates how desperate you’re becoming in this little debate of ours if you’re digging up old articles about race and crime. I’d be impressed if you could find an up-to-date piece on black criminality. (And no, I’m not talking about the stats from “The Color of Crime.” I mean something real recent.)

      Still complaining about black-on-white crime, I see. I speak about crime in general and all you talk is specific kinds of crime. Where’s you objectivity, man? Oh, I forgot…you have none.Tell me, Ray…don’t you ever get tired of hearing yourself say the same, boring thing over and over again, like a broken record? “All blacks are criminals.” “Whites are more intelligent than blacks.” “Blacks victimize whites more than whites victimize blacks,” etc, etc. Is it too much to ask for some originality from you pro-white types?

      Since all you care to talk about is black-on-white, while willfully ignoring the criminality of other racial groups (including your own), that just tells me how reluctant you are from separating yourself from your own hypocrisy. Oh, and to quote a more distinguished founding father, Thomas Jefferson:

      “There is not a truth existing which I fear or would wish unknown to the whole world.”

      But apparently, the double standard being displayed by both you and this website is a truth you’d prefer unknown to the world.

    • ed91

       I don’t think you’re black………  I think you’re a 23 yr old white guy down in his basement, pissed at the world because for some reason or another you can’t get a chick.  What is it?  pimples? acne?  overweight? insecure and shy around women?  past putdowns?  short?   
      I bet 100$ you haven’t touched a girl in months…..
      that’s what your anger and computer aggression says……

  • kminta

    Still talking about us Blacks/Africans, I see. I didn’t know you cared for blacks so much, Ray. Thanks! As for Dr. Schweitzer’s quote…fine; I’ll bite. But if you believe the recent (and scientifically proven) theory of humanity evolving from Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_African_origin_of_modern_humans), well, the good doctor was really criticizing himself from an evolutionary standpoint.

    Or maybe you don’t care. Either way, the fact that you’re still talking about my people suggests that you must have some vested interests in us. Care to share what that is?

    The fact that you’re still talking about blacks and crime, while ignoring the evils committed by others (by the way, don’t receive all that much media attention), once more, shows your hypocrisy. You really can’t talk about anything else other than black criminality because, to you, that’s all that matters. Hypocrite, Hypocrite, Hypocrite. 

    I won’t challenge the data from the DOJ and the FBI. But what I will stand up to is the double standard I see coming from both sides on the issue of race. I see that taking the moral objective on race matters simply isn’t in your nature, and that’s too bad.

    But it is within my nature to show people their hypocrisy. So expect me to be around for sometime to come.

  • kminta

    Could have fooled me, Mister Moderator.

    I’ll grow less pessimistic about your bias towards non-whites like myself when websites like yours start to acknowledge crimes committed by all people.