Court Records Show Race May Be Motive in Shooting Rampage

WSBTV (Atlanta), April 9, 2012

Channel 2 Action News has learned new information about a possible motive in a deadly midtown shooting from last summer.

Police said a woman was killed and two others injured when a security guard went on a shooting rampage in a parking lot. Channel 2’s Dave Huddleston obtained the 43-page lawsuit from the case that was filed in state court April 5. The documents show that race may have played a role in the shootings.

The sound of gunfire echoed off midtown buildings July 15. When it was over, marketing executive Brittany Watts had been shot in the neck and killed. Police said the shooter, security guard Nkosi Thadiwe, took off in Watts’ car and fired a gun, randomly shooting two more—Lauren Garcia, who was paralyzed, and Tiffany Ferenczy.

Nkosi Thadiwe

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They [plaintiffs] said Thandiwe demonstrated an intensely negative attitude toward another race, which was unnamed. About a month prior to the shooting, Thandiwe had an altercation with a visitor with the parking garage.

Documents state he assailed a visiting courier with racial epithets and had to be physically restrained by company personnel from striking and causing harm to visitors.

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Brittney Watts

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  • There’s more not in this story than in it.  Why run it at all?

    • Most black on white crime storys lack a lot. If not for the pics you wouldnt know it was black on white.

  • kminta

    Still indulging in your hypocrisy by talking only about black-on-white crime while ignoring white-on-white crime, I see? Not to belittle the white victim here and the apparent racial bigotry of the accused black felon, but for every black criminal offense against whites you guys post, I can come up with equally reprehensible stories of white-on-white crime.

    Here are some crimes that the mainstream media (and you) failed to acknowledge.

    *Pastor and fellow church member held in torture of boy forced to dig his own grave
    (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/rev-lonny-remmers-torture-dig-grave-california_n_1415488.html?ref=crime)

    *T.J. Lane to undergo competency hearing before standing trial for Ohio School Shooting.
    (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/09/tj-lane-competency-test_n_1413579.html?ref=crime)

    *Matthew Puccio, accused of stabbing and dismembering girlfriend, Jessica Rae Sacco, says he met her online.
    (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/09/matthew-puccio-online_n_1412131.html?ref=crime)

    *Frederick Thomas, Dan Roberts Plead Guilty in Georgia Militia Plot.
    (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/frederick-thomas-dan-roberts-georgia-militia-plot_n_1415191.html?ref=crime)

    *Jordan Brown, Accused of Murder at 11, Begins Trial in Pennsylvania.
    (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/jordan-brown-11-year-old-murderer-trial-pennsylvania_n_1415193.html)

    But for the sake of being objective, here’s some acts of black criminality.

    *Shenay Jackson Poured Bleach on ex-boyfriend’s lap, while he was driving, police say.
    (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/shenay-j-jackson-poured-bleach-ex-boyfriend-lap-florida_n_1408753.html?ref=crime&ir=Crime)

    *Through tears, assault victim recalls excruciating rape details.
    (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/tears-assault-victim-recalls-excruciating-rape-details-article-1.1040939)

    *Cops on the hunt for man in Coney Island sexual assault.
    (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/cops-hunt-man-coney-island-sexual-assault-article-1.1056472)

    *Attorney for homeless vet accused of fatally beating Astoria man tells jurors not to rely on “sympathy.”
    (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/attorney_jurors_homeless_rely_accused_acXXtE5AohVZ3HCCbEy3VL)

    *Jury selected for Jennifer Hudson’s family murder trial.
    (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/jury_selected_for_jennifer_hudson_wdStwoaFqEA63hJiHvRN2K)

    Sure, not all the victims of black criminal acts shown in the articles posted are white. But if white victims of black crime is all you people seem to care about, then there’s hypocrisy for ya!!!

    • Up to my neck in CA

      The difference is that Whites will shun these criminals even their own family members while the blacks own family members make excuses for their actions as if they are justified in the most horrendous crimes. Case in point, the OKC pharmacist who defended himself against black hoods. The mother of one of the thugs he shot called her son a hero…a hero!! I didn’t realize hero’s pulled armed robberies.

    • holyflower

      Kminta, whites have hundreds of times as much physical contact with other whites as they do with blacks.  Thus, while white-on-white violence exceeds black-on-white violence in totality, the actual risk to a white in a single encounter with a black exceeds the risk he would incur in a single encounter with a white. 

      We are talking about the concept of “relative risk” here.   To illustrate the principle of relative risk with an extreme example. Lions kill far fewer people than do other people.  But that is no reason to fear a lion any less should you encounter one.

      It’s all about weighing the relative risk of various encounters.

      • kminta

        Point taken, Holy. But that still doesn’t obscure the fact that white-on-white criminal acts are more commonplace than black-on-white violence in totality. What I’m observing on this website is a consistent theme here of a racial agenda that is, in reality, no different than the hypocritical bias easily seen in today’s mainstream media.

        Even though I’m black, I won’t deny the fact that blacks, while only small percentage of the U.S. population in comparison to whites, account for more than half of criminal offenses (Being both the perpetrator and the victim.) But my main point in my more recent posts here is to show that “The Color of Crime” is not completely black as the dictators of this website hope to convince most whites into believing. It is also brown, yellow, red and, yes, even white. 

        Your “relative risk” concept fails to take into consideration factors that may play against your natural preferences. Indeed, while a black is more likely to victimize a white than vice versa, it is also a statistical reality that Indians, Asians and Arabs pose an even “lower risk factor” than encountering a white. And yet, most whites would not consider “weighing the relative risk” as you say and take their chances with those who are, percentage-wise, less likely to do you harm. 

        And this is what it all boils down to: objectivity versus hypocrisy. It’s either one or the other, and most of you have chosen hypocrisy, and that’s very unfortunate.

        • holyflower

          kminta: “…it is also a statistical reality that Indians, Asians and Arabs pose an even ‘lower risk factor’ [to whites] than encountering a white.”

          ===

          To the extent that is true, “relative reward” may take precedence in our decisions to associate or not with others.  Here the concept of “cultural affinity” is appropriate.  All things being equal — let’s say near-zero risk of criminal behavior,  people of all ethnic groups tend to be more comfortable around people like themselves. That’s unavoidable and it’s human nature.

          The different ethnic groups co-mingle at work and at school, for example, because they must, but in voluntary associations — churches, entertainment venues, vacations, housing — people tend to want to relax, to be in their “comfort zones” — so to speak. This is best done with people like oneself.

          Nothing hypocritical about it.  Risk is not the sole factor in social decision-mkaing.

          • kminta

            So natural preferences outweigh risk factors, correct? From a self-preservation standpoint, that sounds kinda irrational to me. Even if one is not like myself, so long as he/she poses no danger to me, I think that I would have to override my own innate preferences to ensure my survival. That’s just “Social Darwinism” at work.

            While may be within one’s nature to prefer his/her own, the survival of the fittest (if you believe in it) dictates that one does what is within one’s best interests to both survive and thrive — even if such actions goes counter to one’s nature. To live is all that matters to every life form on this planet.

            Man is an imperfect creature. As such, his nature is imperfect as well. To that end, perhaps we, as humans, should contemplate on ways to “perfect ourselves” by regulating certain aspects of our nature so to grow into something higher and better. That is, after all, what God expects of us, isn’t it?

          • holyflower

            kminta: “…perhaps we, as humans, should contemplate on ways to ‘perfect ourselves’ by regulating certain aspects of our nature so to grow into something higher and better. That is, after all, what God expects of us, isn’t it?”

            ===

            It is in our genetic interest to prefer and support the reproduction of those most genetically similar to ourselves.  That’s why we evolved such tendencies — also known as “tribalism.”   Strong ingroup preferences are adaptations produced by ten of thousands of years of hard scrabble existence in a world where groups competed for scarce resources.

            Now whether blunting those tendencies today in pursuit of some new “higher” order of behavior — let’s say diversity and multiculturalism (preferring outgroups and their cultures over one’s own ingroup and its culture) — is “higher and better” and/or more Godly is highly debatable from a moral point view alone.  From an evolutionary point of view, it is suicidal.   

          • kminta

            That’s why we evolved such tendencies — also known as “tribalism.” 

            True, but it is this “hyper-tribalism” — the kind that blurs one’s ability to see between right and wrong, is something that I’ve come to observe from most blacks and so-called white racialists like yourself. This “over-tribalism”, as I call it, tends to obscure objectivity in terms of what is bad and what is good. But then, I suppose that it is simply human nature to defend one’s tribe regardless of the fact the actions taken by that particular tribe is wrong.

            Case in point: was the decimation of the American Indians and the taking of their land the right thing to do? For most white racialist, the answer is yes because it served the best interests of whites. But what if this situation were reversed? What if the Native Americans had invaded Europe, killed off its population with their diseases, and took away their land? Would that have been the right thing to do? From your (and most whites’) perspective, the answer is HELL NO!!! This is what I mean when I say that “hyper-tribalism” from any racial group is wrong from a moral standpoint even though it may be natural.

            And that is what I’m ultimately criticizing extremists blacks and white racialists for: an over-developed sense of racial tribalism that, even though may be natural, is still amoral if one strives to be objective. Many blacks are quick to make excuses for black criminals, while racialist whites defend the wrongful actions committed by their own. Both groups generally tend to shift the blame/guilt away from themselves and onto something else.

            Like I said, we humans are far from being what God had ideally planned for us; and that’s thanks mostly to our nature. I think that a “Human Nature Repair Manual” is what’s needed if we’re to truly follow God’s way.

        • KenelmDigby

          I’m simply just not interested in Indians, Arabs or Asians.
          It’s up to them to fight their own corner.

    •  Why are you here?  I’m genuinely curious.  What do you hope to achieve?

      • kminta

        What I hope to achieve here, Baldowl, is to shine a light on what I’m seeing in both the liberal media and on this website: a blatant, hypocritical double standard devoid of objectivity and fairness. The fact that moderators haven’t barred me from this web forum (yet) indicates that (a) perhaps they’re not as bias I assumed them to be (at least in my case), or (b) I’ve given them, on some very small level, something to think about.

        Either way, don’t expect me to go away anytime soon.

        • IstvanIN

          Ban this clown.  The majority of inter-racial crime is black on white.

          • gemjunior

            I don’t even read his posts anymore, because it’s the same thing over an over.  “Whites commit crimes too!  Look, here are some examples.  You’re hypocrites!  The same as the hypocrites on the mainstream liberal media! Just like them!” (yeah, except they are reporting practically non-existant white on black crime and pretending that the exponentially tripled to the n-th degree black on white crime doesn’t exist).  Someone like this is not going to allow themselves to see.  He is the only one on this site who can’t see?  I’d say he has problems.  Either can’t see or more likely won’t see because his liberal white-hating mind is already made up, set in stone.  And as we know, “a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.  Pay no attention to him and don’t respond.

          • kminta

            Whether you pay attention to me or not doesn’t change the face that white-on-white crime gets no coverage here, just as black-on-white crime gets precious little press coverage in the mainstream media as well.

            But you’re right about one thing, though. I do have a problem; and it’s the same problem I see coming from both sides of the racial. A double standard that both you and the liberal media chooses to indulge in. You guys think that you’re better because you talk only about stories that MSM and the New York Times barely touch. But the truth is you’re not.

            Indeed, the liberal media needs to be much more objective in its reporting of race and crime. But then, so does this website. Perhaps I’ll go away when I see that happen.

          • kminta

            And that’s all you people can talk about, black-on-white crime; as if other types of criminal offenses don’t exists to you folks. Nonwhite criminality is all that matters to you, and there lies your  bias.

            BTW, I’d rather be a clown than a hypocrite. 

          • Anan7

             “And that’s all you people can talk about, black-on-white crime; as if
            other types of criminal offenses don’t exists to you folks.”

            That is entirely false.  Check out “Goodbye Blue Sky” by RamZPaul on YouTube

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVIiASDUSAU

            and what he posted a few days ago:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXAGNwURCJ0&context=C4b78624ADvjVQa1PpcFMJOZOUlT7XcKcG5hFe_t36itKfeCFYxwg=

            THAT is what we are angry about here on American Renaissance.

        • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

          Would it help to point out to you the difference between an opinion site like American Renaissance, and the news media which portrays itself as the objective, unbiased gatekeeper of the truth?
           
          Or in other words: you’re making what they call an apples-to-oranges comparison.

          Moderators don’t ban people from this site as long as they make an attempt to be civil and make arguments that are at least sane and succinct.  You’ve posted less than fifty comments here, the overwhelming majority of which have come in the past five days.  How is it that you deign to tell us just exactly what this site is and what it is not?

          Because you’ve made up your mind about it without having hardly scratched the surface, that’s why.  Some would call that “bias.”  Mind the beam in your own eye, fella. 

          • kminta

            Oh, so now it is I who is being bias, huh?!? Not that it’ll have any effect on you, but I have gone on to point out black criminality on black forums, and most didn’t like what I had to say. The fact that I’m taking pot shots at you guys as well doesn’t sit well with you folks either. In both cases, hyper-defensiveness is the word that best describes the reaction the members of both black and white forums.

            FYI, I’ve been a regular visitor of American Renaissance for years now; and during that time, I couldn’t help but notice how this website talks only about crimes committed by a certain group of people, while willfully ignoring the crimes committed by their own — oftentimes against their own. 

            You say that I’m making an apples and oranges comparison?Perhaps. But oranges and apples are still fruit the last time I checked. What I’m seeing is how one prefers one fruit over the other, without any real logical reason as to why.

            For what it’s worth, I’m not here to criticize what AR is for. I’m just curious as to what it is becoming; something that is, in truth, no better than those who have an negative agenda. Objectivity and impartiality may be an alien concept for our Marxist media. But apparently, that is also the case for this website as well.

            If or when the moderators here decide to kick me out is almost moot at this point. I’ve already thanked them for keeping me on here thus far. But for you to accuse me of being bias and not them, TNDE, shows me which side you’re already on.

          • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

            This is not an objective media site.  It makes no attempt to show otherwise.  It is an opinion site.  Why can’t that fact penetrate your skull?

            What you don’t seem to understand is that you’re far from the first numinous negro to show up here and try and lecture us and show us “the error of our ways.”  And you’re getting dangerously close to being seen off like all the rest.  I saw you used the five-letter B-word to refer to one of the females here.  That kind of thing will get white people banned from this site.  Tread lightly, you’re merely tolerated here, you’re not a guest.

            We’re not perfect.  We don’t claim to be.  You will never understand this site and the motivations behind it because you haven’t been victimized by black people on account of your race.  And I’m not interested in your stories of 100-year-old lynchings and the once-in-ten-year dragging of a black man behind a pickup truck, so don’t bother.

            FYI, I’ve been a regular visitor of American Renaissance for years now

            No you haven’t, stop lying.  Your oldest comment is from a month ago, and you’re extremely ignorant of the content of this site.  There is so much more to this site than the crime reporting. You seem to be unaware of this.

            You say that I’m making an apples and oranges comparison? Perhaps. But oranges and apples are still fruit the last time I checked. What I’m seeing is how one prefers one fruit over the other, without any real logical reason as to why.

            This I included just because it’s one of the most retarded and meaningless statements I’ve seen in a long time.  Also because it sets in stone the fact that you don’t know the difference between opinion and news.

            But here’s your logical reason: white people don’t lament the crimes against them by the members of their own race for the same reason blacks do the same: intra-race crime is viewed as an internal problem, whereas inter-race crime is an assault by outsiders, akin to a hostile assault or invasion.  And again, inter-race crime is so heavily black-on-white as to be a noteworthy news item.  Our women in particular are in danger from your men in ways that your women have nothing to fear from ours.  The mainstream news media ignores these facts because it is hostile to whites.  That is one point, among many, of this site.  Our people are under assault in ways that yours are not.  I don’t care if you get it or not, but it’s the truth. 

            But for you to accuse me of being bias and not them, TNDE, shows me which side you’re already on.

            You sorely lack reading comprehension skills.  The obvious point of my previous comment is that you favor your own and it shows.  That statement has nothing to do with anyone else but you.  Don’t show up at a place like this pointing fingers all over the place then get squeamish when a mirror is held up to you.   OF COURSE AmRen has a pro-white bias.  It makes no bones about being a pro-white website.  I don’t think anyone here would deny that.  You finally did get something right though, about what side I’m on.  Although it wasn’t a major cognitive victory; my mere presence here is a dead giveaway, after all.      

          • KenelmDigby

            The point is that the differential ratio of blacks harming Whites as oppossed to Whites harming blacks is enormous, orders of magnitude different in fact.
             So long as that ratio exists Amren is fully entitled to be ‘biased’ since * no one* and I mean absolutely no one acknowledges this fact, let alone publicizes it.
             If that differential did not exist, Amren would not exist, and you, presumably, would be a happy bunny.

          • kminta

            “This is not an objective media site.  It makes no attempt to show otherwise.  It is an opinion site.  Why can’t that fact penetrate your skull?”

            Because all I hear non-stop are whining complaints from you people about how we nonwhites are ruining America. At least the liberal media is so obsessed with race.

            What was America before you Europeans came along? A vast wilderness occupied by Indians. Your ancestors decimated them and took what didn’t belong to them. But of course, you’ll try to spin this little fact around with false claims that your ancestors were present on the North American long continent before the Native Americans. Or perhaps you’ll proclaim that “might makes right.” Either way, the mass murder of an indigenous people is never justifiable. 

            “You will never understand this site and the motivations behind it because you haven’t been victimized by black people on account of your race. ”

            On the contrary, I have been victimized by my own kind, believe it or not. For as long  as I can remember, I was mocked, shunned and made an outcast among my fellow black peers due to my “Uncle Tom-ish” views. Even on the black forums I’ve been on for a time, I was branded a “Uncle Ruckus” (The new term for Uncle Tom) because I was bold enough to express my opinions on black America. Needless to say, I was eventually kicked out from all those black forums.

            On February 15, 2000, I was robed at knife-point by a couple of two-bit thugs (who were black, by the way) who stole my wallet. I reported the crime to the police, but no real results came of it.

            While it may not be the same as black-on-white, but yeah, I do know where you’re coming from.

            “No you haven’t, stop lying.  Your oldest comment is from a month ago, and you’re extremely ignorant of the content of this site.  There is so much more to this site than the crime reporting. You seem to be unaware of this.”

            Shows what you know. Perhaps older members of this web forum will know me best as Kwaku Minta. (Ring any bells?). I simply altered my username to “kminta” to shorten it.  So yes, I’ve been around these parts for a while now. 

            For the most part, sympathetic to you guys on racial matters. That is, until I began to observe something that dismayed me. A consistent theme of reporting only crimes committed by nonwhites while deliberately leaving out white-on-white criminal offenses. Ultimately, becoming no better than our liberal media establishment. On some subconscious level, you know this to be true, but your reaction is so what if I’m a hypocrite. And to that, I say, “Fine. Whatever floats your boat.”

            “…intra-race crime is viewed as an internal problem, whereas inter-race crime is an assault by outsiders, akin to a hostile assault or invasion.  And again, inter-race crime is so heavily black-on-white as to be a noteworthy news item.  Our women in particular are in danger from your men in ways that your women have nothing to fear from ours.  The mainstream news media ignores these facts because it is hostile to whites.  That is one point, among many, of this site.  Our people are under assault in ways that yours are not.  I don’t care if you get it or not, but it’s the truth.”

            And here’s the part where you’ll explain to me why the victims of interracial crime deserves more sympathy than the victims of intra-racial crime, am I right?  So much for moral equivalency coming from you. FYI, your women have even less to fear from Asian, Arab and Indian males than they do from your white male set. (That is, if you believe in the crime stats from the DOJ, FBI and the Jared Taylor’s “The Color of Crime.”) But that little fact means nothing to you and you’d insists that white women avoid all nonwhite males entirely; even the one’s who are, percentage-wise, less likely to rape them. That much I do get.

            “You sorely lack reading comprehension skills.  The obvious point of my previous comment is that you favor your own and it shows.  That statement has nothing to do with anyone else but you.  Don’t show up at a place like this pointing fingers all over the place then get squeamish when a mirror is held up to you.   OF COURSE AmRen has a pro-white bias.  It makes no bones about being a pro-white website.  I don’t think anyone here would deny that.  You finally did get something right though, about what side I’m on.  Although it wasn’t a major cognitive victory; my mere presence here is a dead giveaway, after all.”

            And this is how people react when they’re forced to take a considerable look at themselves, and see something that they don’t like. Maybe you haven’t figured it out by now, but I’m a neutral and play no favorites. You call that foolishness, I call it being objective.

            Don’t try to turn the tables and accuse me of being squeamish; just stick with the truth! You accuse of our national media of not reporting interracial crime frequently enough, and then have the nerve to do the same thing by not reporting intra-racial crime? Well that makes this website and the liberal media mirror reflections of each other now, much to your dismay. 

            Don’t count yourself the victor of this intellectual battle just, my friend. For a guy like who has an IQ of 125, I’d say that I’m quite cognitively agile. But if you wanna admit defeat and admit who your intellectual superior is, that suits me fine as well.

          • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

            Oh now Kunta Minte is my intellectual superior, with his 125 IQ! Nonwhites ARE ruining America, you nincompoop!  Is the country filling up with the denizens of Amsterdam, sucking up social service funds like sponges yet contributing little or nothing back to the coffers?  Is it Swedish children for whom we’ve flushed trillions of dollars down the toilet in a vain effort to close the “achievement gap,” with absolutely zero noticeable result?  We had to give up NASA for your people!  The American economy has been stagnant for exactly as long as we’ve had the Great Society programs in this country.  This is not a coincidence. 

            He has been victimized by his own kind.  But not because of his race, as I pointed out.  He doesn’t fear for his life because of things that happened 150 years ago that are constantly dredged up as an excuse for the black race colossally effing up everything it touches.  He also doesn’t comprehend what he reads too well at all, his vaunted IQ notwithstanding.

            You claim to be neutral yet trot out the poor poor Indians as though you (and they) would rather sleep in the dirt in a teepee or be living in Africa with all its wonders rather than partaking of the “white man’s magic” like artificial heat, indoor plumbing and free enterprise.  When pressed hard enough you revert to the same old progressive America-hating BS.  You claim to be sympathetic to our views but all it took to change that is we don’t have the diversity of crime reporting that you would like.  I guess it’s true what they say here; you don’t have to scratch the surface of a “black conservative” very deeply to find a familiar substrate.

            You’re a broken record.  You say the same things over and over. It grows tiresome.

            And this is neither here nor there, but my IQ is far in excess of 125.  I only go there because you brought it up; generally I avoid this because I consider it bad form and a sign of a weak argument when you have to point to things like this.  My intelligence speaks for itself; I don’t need to point to numbers to show I outclass you.  My arguments do that on their own.  But I just couldn’t let you go home thinking yourself my intellectual superior. 

          • kminta

            “Nincompoop”, is it now? I would think that name-calling would be beneath someone with a “higher intellect” than myself . Sure I called Anon12 a hypocritical b***ch because she confessed to being one. But for you to do the same thing? Oh, I forgot…you already admitted to being bias. Maybe you and Anon should go on a date sometime since you both have so much in common.

            Hey, I’ve just promoted white-on-white dating! And you say that I’m anti-white?

            “Nonwhites are ruining America,” you say. Hey, you don’t like the fact that nonwhites are entitled to the same freedoms and rights as whites (something that your grandparents enjoyed at nonwhite people’s expense, by the way), then why don’t you and your race just leave America, go back to Europe and give back this land to its rightful owners, the American Indians. With your “advanced superiority”, your kind could have done wonders in Europe. Why travel half-way around the world and decimate an indigenous people?

            I’m still waiting on your explanation on how interracial (black-on-white crime) is somehow worse than intra-racial (white-on-white) crime. If your supposed “higher IQ than mine” enables you to formulate a rational response, I’ll be impressed.

            Oh, and taking stabs at my reading ability won’t help the fact that you’re indulging in a tautology. But like I said, hypocrites do what hypocrites do. Also, would you care to share with me exactly where you fit in the IQ range. Based on your defensive rants against me, it can’t be any higher than 110.

            If I’m a broken record, then why do you insist on playing me over and over and over again? That’s music for you! Some tunes like mine you just can’t seem to get out of your head; and wouldn’t if you could.

            You’ve fought well for novice, young grasshopper. But for you to truly master yourself, you must rid yourself of all self-indulgences. (Sure, not a Chinese proverb; but suitable for you likes of you.)

            And that, TNDE, is what you call “checkmate.”

        • gemjunior

          “Either way, don’t expect me to go away anytime soon.”

          You’ll go away if no one acknowledges you.  If people can resist your provoking, anti-White attitude and negrophilia you’ll eventually get lost.  You make no sense and lack any real understanding of why a site such as this one needs to exist.

        •  Ah.  Gotcha.  So you’re just here to annoy white people.  I’ve seen this behavior before at malls and theme parks, but this is the first time I’ve seen it on the internet.
          Do stick around.  We’ll tear you a new one.

          • kminta

            ” I’ve seen this behavior…”

            Oh, I doubt it. You’ve never seen a smart individual like myself challenge the supposedly objectivity of an allegedly bias-free website. AR has never had someone accuse them of the same bias that is practiced by our national media — which they know, deep down, is true. But still chooses to indulge in their double standard, anyway.

            The fact that someone like myself is courageous enough to stand up to what is clearly a hypocritical double standard that present within both the liberal media and this website doesn’t sit well with folks like you. Whites like yourself have obviously put themselves on the highest moral pedestal. But when a dose of reality hits you…BAM!!! You turn out to be no different than those you claim to be better than.

            Oh, and thanks for giving me permission to stick around. Not that I need it. Challenge my claims about this website, if you dare! I’ll put you in your place faster than the speed of sound.

          •  LOL

          • The_Bobster

            Where does this site claim to be “bias-free”? I come here because this site promotes the interests of my race.

        • KenelmDigby

          We’ve only got this place for our ‘double standard’.
          You’ve got CNN, Fox News, the New York Times, The Washington Post, the Huffington Post, Time, Newsweek, CBS, NBC, The Wall Street Journal etc etc etc etc.

    • Pax Romana

      kminta, your claims of hypocrisy against American Renaissance are totally bogus, but I think you already know that.

      White on white crime is already covered throughly by the MSM,  as are the rare instances of white on black violence, which is often given maximum exposer (and you know  that too).

      What isn’t covered, or often down played by the MSM is black on white violence. The media’s bias is blatant and intentional.

      That is the real hypocrisy,  and American Renaissance is responding to it by shining light on a type of growing violence that the MSM, and you apparently, would like to see remain in the dark.

      • kminta

        Pax,

        If AR are not hypocrites, then why don’t they report the criminal acts perpetuated by their own? Oh, that’s right! That would be a form of self-criticism, and people naturally don’t want to be seen in a negative light.

        Sure, MSM talks about white-on-white crime all the time, while intentionally leaving out other crime stories. But for American Renaissance to discuss only black-on-white crime, while blatantly leaving out stories of crimes committed by whites…against whites, is basically doing the same thing as far as I’m concerned.

        As I’ve said before, hypocrisy works both ways. Our bias media maybe covering up black-on-white crime, but a website that supposedly caters towards the interests of whites (and I’m assuming that includes those whites who’ve been victimized by their own) is where I see hypocrisy. Unlike most of you, I’m not afraid to call a spade a spade.

    • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

      What if we were concerned about drunk driving being a factor in car accidents…would you point to car wrecks in which alcohol were not a factor and call us hypocrites?  I doubt it.

      • brew730

         Funny, kminta replied to all responses except yours t_n_d_e.  I think your statement was a slam dunk, can’t argue with that!

        • kminta

          Guess again, brewster. The fact that TNDE no longer wants to engage me in this intellectual chess game indicates that (1) he, like me, is growing bored with this futile exchange of written warfare; or, more likely, (2) he’s angry at me for exposing his own hypocrisy, which mirrors that of the bias coming from the liberal media. 

          Whichever answer you choose, both you and TNDE have lost this little war of words by default. The fact that you both were intellectually bested by a black person must really gall you, doesn’t it?

          • brew730

             Bested….?  You keep repeating the same thing over again.  Hypocrite this, bias that, white violence…blah blah blah.  You still ignore the plain fact that black on white crime it 9-10 times the rate of white on black crime which is what T_N_D_E’s point was.  And all of this from less than 15% of the population.  Why is the prison population roughly 35% black (which is more than whites around 33%) when there are three times as many whites in the country.  Criminal element!

      • kminta

        The only difference is that everyone of every race is capable of drunk driving; just as every race is capable of engaging in criminal acts. The fact that you try to exempt your kind from this and place blame squarely on a specific group(s) of people is precisely the hypocritical double standard that I stand against. 
        Not so pleasant when you’re the one being exposes for who and what you really are, isn’t it?
        Back to the subject of racial bias, just be glad that I’m only calling you guys hypocrites and not some ethnic slur like “cracker” or “honky”; because doing so would bring me down to your low level. I’m better than that. I’m better than you!

    • No

      Surely you’re not that dense. 

      I don’t care how many examples of white-on-white crime you dredge up.  The issue is RATE, not raw numbers.

      Some quick examples:

      Depending on how you define “white” . . . there are 7-8 whites for every ONE black.    Yet of the 11,550 murders in 2008 where the killer was known, 5,334 were committed by whites and 5,943 were committed by blacks.  Do the math. 

      Whites comprise 65.2% of persons arrested for rape, blacks represented 32.2%.  TRANSLATION:  Whites rape at less than their percentage of the population while blacks rape at 270% their rate of population.

      Hate crimes.   Whites are deliberately targeted by federal hate crime legislation.  Some federal officials and politicians have even said that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for blacks and other minorities to commit a hate crime.  Yet, generally,  there’s no difference between the circumstances in a white-on-black crime or black-on-white.

      Finally, look at any high school or any metropolitan area.  There is a clear positive correlation between the percentage of blacks and the amount of crime.  As the first rises, so does the second.

      So enough with your pettifogging.  You are neither fooling or impressing anyone with your arguments.  Detailing white-on-white crime and calling it hypocritical for a group of WHITE RACIALISTS to not focus on it when they’re on a forum used to discuss black depravity is idiotic.

      Don’t you have some television to watch?

    • tobermory

      ” But if white victims of black crime is all you people seem to care about, then there’s hypocrisy for ya!!
      Hypocrisy involves pretence of some kind.   A s far as I can see, nobody here is pretending to have virtues, principles or opinions that they do not, in fact, possess.

      When individual crimes are highlighted here,  it is usually in discussions about media bias in crime reporting.

  • SintiriNikos

    I can picture the decision process when this guy was hired as security guard: ‘look at his face and dreads, man! Nobody will so much as cross the street to our building, they’ll be too scared.’

  • Walking_On_The_Moon

    Liberal News outlets like WSBTV think they can fool the public…Whenever blacks commit a hate crime against whites, remove all references to the victim(s) and perp(s) race, then do not show their photos.

    The last thing they frequently do is to remove the ability for readers to comment on the article. This is done to fool themselves, because if they allowed comments, they would realize that they aren’t fooling anyone.

    We have long ago figured out the routing. And their predictable biased editing only confirms that it was a black on white crime.

    • The_Bobster

      The NY Daily Snooze bans all conservative posters, allowing only cop- and YT-hating Bantus to post. That way it appears that all their readers agree with their slanted reporting.

      And like our token Afrovoodoo #2 (Kmala), they search the AP wire service for White crime stories from thousands of miles away to balance out all the local black crime stories.

    •  It really is as though they stick their fingers in their ears and scream, “We can’t hear you! LALALALALALALA! Main stream press: Nothin’ but Pee Wees.

  • The White race can’t be named here. With George Zimmerman and James England it was named immediately. Think about it.

    •  James England looks somewhat Indian to me. Maybe he’s a white Cherokee.

      • The_Bobster

        There’s no maybe about the Cherokee part.

  • No

    QUOTE:  Documents state he assailed a visiting courier with racial epithets and had to be physically restrained by company personnel from striking and causing harm to visitors.  ///

    Yet his employers still allowed him to carry a weapon?

    #1  I hope they sue the glass out of the company’s window . . . I want to hear them squeal . . .

    #2  I’m betting the dearly departed Brittney tried to befriend this beast.  She probably smiled at him, chatted with him and was graciously kind.  She probably knew he was lusting after her white thighs and it made no difference.  She just soooooooooo admired a young African man trying to im

    BAM!

    Another white liberal fantasy blown away by a dose of negroid reality.

  • JohnEngelman

    My local newspaper does not report the races of criminal suspects, but it does post photos of those who are arrested and convicted of crimes. The camera does not lie. 

  • Little error, it was intended as response to kminta.

    Imagine the worst white criminal and that the best man on earth is a non-white. Would you better have the bad white guy in the other community and the good one in ours or the other way round? My sense of justice tells me that every community should keep its own trash and my practical one, that it is better when each community deal with its own share of it, that if it spreads over on other communities which are not used to deal with, the world will soon been drowned in a see of it.

    It is true that we should speak much more about white criminals, those who flood us with non-white mass immigration come to mind, but the point is they shouldn’t be criminality against whites coming from other groups and amren shouldn’t need to exist in first place.

    May be we are not so different, but our minds simply set on different mental equation. From my point of view, if you are white American and not afraid of reality, you would see that your purpose is to calm the tide of war, and that this is engraved in your nature, but that this comes with an imperative which is, ultimately, not biological but moral, the preservation of your own existence. And let me tell you, that if you believe you exist outside your race, you are wrong.

    What for the accusation of hypocrisy, your are partially right. Some of us here have not yet entirely disentangled from the anti-racist mindset and continue to measure with your rules.

    • kminta

      First off, your scenario is highly illogical. From both a rational and survivalist standpoint, I’d accept the law-abiding nonwhite who is less likely to do me harm than the “worst white criminal” who would. My sense of justice is obviously not the same as yours because I believe in treating ALL PEOPLE with fairness and respect; something that seems too alien a concept for the likes of you.

      So basically you are willingly embrace your own hypocrisy and don’t mind being no better than our bias, anti-white media, am I right, Mr. Steyer? Well, that tells me a lot about your character, does it? It was my hope that you whites would take the higher moral ground on the subject of race. But from what you’ve just written, you already have appointed yourself to the moral pedestal with your rant about tribal preservation. This is precisely what I was discussing with holyflower about “hyper tribalism” and how it blinds one’s otherwise normal understanding of good and evil. Never mind fairness and to hell with justice.I do agree with you on one thing, though. I don’t exist outside of my race. But I do exist within the human family. Though this may sound too “brotherhood-ish” for your taste, but equality before God far exceeds equality before Man; and that is an even greater moral imperative.For the case about the black-on-white crime above, I hope that justice prevails and this creep, if guilty as charged, either gets the death penalty or is sent away for life. But if you ask me, black-on-white crime and crime in general are two sides of the same coin. You can’t have one without the other. But I suppose you’d digress. Anyway, thanks for confirming to me that you’re a hypocrite. Maybe you and other race-exploiters like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton should hook up sometime.

      • alex

        “It was my hope that you whites would take the higher moral ground on the subject of race”
        We did it for years.  And look where it got us.
        Acher Grunis, one of the Israel supreme court judges, wrote: “Humans rights aren’t a prescription for national suicide”
         High moral ground and treating ALL people with fairness and respect aren’t a prescription for racial suicide.

      • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

        Ok I can’t let it go anymore…

        The media HAS bias.  It IS biased.  There, now your IQ is 130.  You’re welcome.

        • kminta

          “Ok I can’t let it go anymore…”
          What’s the matter, TNDE? Mentally drained from our little intellectual combat here? Me, I could do this all day without a breather. However, I do have my wonderful, productive life to get back to.

          It must be tough keeping up with someone with a high intellect like mine. You take a rest now. (Poor baby!)

          “The media HAS bias.  It IS biased.”

          And, unfortunately, so are you. Welcome to the club!

          There, now your IQ is 130.  You’re welcome. 

          So you’ve enhanced my IQ by five point, huh?!? Not that you’re doing a any favors, but thanks! Does this mean that all men are equal now?

        • kminta

          “Ok I can’t let it go anymore…”

          What’s the matter, TNDE? Exhausted from our little intellectual battle here? Me, I could do this all day without a breather. However, I do have a wonderful, productive life to get back to.

          It must be tough keeping up with someone with a high IQ. I see that you’re tired, so I’ll let you rest your mentally drained mind for now. (Poor baby!)

          “The media HAS bias.  It IS biased.”

          And guess what? So are you and those who run this website, unfortunately. Welcome to the club.

          “There, now your IQ is 130.  You’re welcome.”

          So you’ve enhanced my IQ by five points, huh?!? Not that I really need it or anything, but thanks. Are all men finally equal now?

  • To Everyone here:
    I got a question. Since you’re talking about racial incidents, what about mentioning the shootings in Tulsa, OK. this past weekend. Where two white males gun down five black ones, killing three and seriously injuring two others!?! All i see on this is silence. Thanks!!

    • The_Bobster

      One Cherokee, whose father was killed by a black criminal, and a crazy White stoner.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126532/Tulsa-shooting-spree-Jake-England-Alvin-Watts-arrested.html#ixzz1rSxN9c2i

      April 5, 2010, Carl England, 47, showed up at the apartment complex where his daughter lived with her boyfriend. The boyfriend had gotten into a fight with Pernell Jefferson, 40, and had hit him with a baseball bat, the Tulsa World reported at the time.

      Jefferson, who had been in prison on drug and weapons charges, then tried to break into the couple’s apartment but left, saying he planned to ‘settle the dispute.’

      • Guest

         And the black was sentenced to only 6 years…

    • ncpride

      Sorry Anthony, Jake England is identified as a Cherokee Indian, but the media will go out of their way to hide that fact, because it doesn’t fit their agenda. Next!

      • kminta

        And what about his white partner? Isn’t he as much a part of this crime as England?

        Know this: defending the wrongful actions of others simply due to their race makes you just as wrong.

    • alex

      Most people here are concerned mainly with what non-whites do to whites.
      Do you know what else happened in Tulsa recently? A vicious assault on Bob and Nancy Strait.
      Nancy could’ve been Obama’s grandmother. All I see on this on CNN, ABC, NBC and Fox is silence.
      Nobody forces you to visit this website. Pull your pants up and get lost.

      • Dear Alex:
        I’m  only trying to be, as you people put it, fair and balanced. In order to be judgemental ,  you with your ilk need to look at the complete picture which i think now is to complicated for a person with your “superior genes”. So, save me the semantics. Something else, the reason why i look and post on this website is to get comic relief. So, keep writing your posts, i love the humor. Finally dear Alex, why don’t you zip up your skirt and keep on trucking.

  • kminta

    “But the key fact that distinguishes those who post here, in my opinion, is objectivity.”

    Okay, John. Show me some objectivity on this website because, from I mostly see, all I’m reading here are the same themes of black-on-white crime. What makes black folks so special that they get talked about so much on this website almost daily in terms of criminality and low IQs? 

    Oh and by the way, I have mentioned Asians, Arabs and Indians in my posts and how they exceed whites in areas of low criminality and hard work. But these facts mean nothing to pro-white forums with their double standard that is really no different than our national media’s bias. If objectivity is what you’re looking for, you won’t find in the liberal media or on this website either.

    •  Ladies and gentlemen of AR, I think I have “kminta” figured out.

      Denial-anger-bargaining-depression-acceptance.

      He or she is already past denial, and is in the middle of anger, and shows slight signs of bargaining.  Stick with it, and he or she will be as much as one of us that any black man or woman can be, after awhile.

    • KenelmDigby

      You notice how doesn’t even attempt to answer the question, namely the ridiculously high level of black criminality, but just keeps fanny-dancing around with a mass of disjointed verbiage and fallacious ‘arguments’.

    • This_Name_Doesnt_Exist

      I’m starting to think kminta is a willful obstructionist on a mission.  Notice how he’s trying to get us on the defensive on our own forum?  One of the few places we have where we are allowed to gather and discuss race issues as we see them, and now we’re being admonished to admit our horrible white hypocrisy and bias?

      I’ve decided I’m not playing into it anymore.  This isn’t a forum where the white man has to apologize or explain himself.

    • kminta

      QD,

      The five stages of the grieving process? Really?

      No, on second thought, you’re right. I am grieving. Grieving for the lost of respect I once had for this website. As far as the stages go, I’d say that I’m in depression right now. Depressed over the fact that many of you can’t seem to acknowledge the fact that you are turning out to be no better than our Marxist/liberal media. 

      Whether I’ll finally come to acceptance of what AR has become remains to be seen.

  • kminta

    Thanks for your honesty. Me, I’m both honest AND (that annoying little word) objective; a word that doesn’t seem to be in you vocabulary.

    Blacks may be hypocrites to you because they don’t generally grieve white victims of black-on-white crime. But then, I don’t see you crying a river for white-on-white crime victims either. Oh, my bad, you don’t give a damn about white-on-white crime victims; just those whites who were victimized by blacks.

    Still capitalizing the word “white” and using the word “black” in lower case letters, I see. Well, you’re a hypocritical b***ch so I guess that’s to be expected.

    Oh, and btw, I don’t “scold” white racialists for being indifferent to nonwhites. But I’ll always be the one to put you all in your place for practicing the same double standard as those in our liberal/Marxist media. So you better get used to me.

    You have a nice day, now!

    • The_Bobster

      Still capitalizing the word “white” and using the word “black” in lower case letters, I see.
      _____

      The reason most of us do this is because the media do the opposite. It’s something we call sarcasm.

      BTW, I was just sarcastic.

    • KenelmDigby

      Look.
      This is not a general ‘anti-crime grieving site’ where people come to commiserate in mankind’s beastliness.
      No. Unabashedly (and bravely I might add), Amren exists to stand for ‘race realism’ – a concept that very nearly got banned out of existence by PC addled elitists and leftists.
       The fact is this – the differences in behavior, character and psychology that exist * in the generality*  between the European and African races are marked and distinct and the correlations found are just about the only correlations found in sociological science that are actually meaningful.
       For example just look at the correlation co-efficients between a city’s per entage black population and its murder rate – such  marked correlations are hardly ever seen in sociological ‘science’.

  • Arcturus

    No, “intensely negative attitude” was how the shooter was described before he did the shooting.   I don’t think the plaintiffs were making a euphemism for murder.   And your second statement is unfounded as well.  It is the same for black on white violence. 

  • saxonsun

    Well, he cannot make that list and he knows it.

    • kminta

      Hey, I’m not afraid to air out my people’s “dirty laundry.” In fact, I do it all the time many pro-black forums. The hypocrisy arises when others like yourself are reluctant to do the same.

  • saxonsun

    Paradise.

  • KenelmDigby

    In actual fact, kminta, the political elites of ALL the ‘White’ nations are busily engaged in handing over those nations to alien non-white ethnies, so that rather negates your point.

  • Outerbanks21922

    http://charlotte.johnlocke.org/blog/?p=16362

    They all look alike but this one looks a lot like the one who killed 2 white cops in 2007 but escaped the death penalty because the same blacks who ran off Jared Taylor made the Racial Injustice Law and he was spared as was the Eve Carson killers for the same reasons.  These killers are being birthed 24/7/365 paid for by taxpayers.

  • kminta

    “Another part of kminta’s idiotic ramblings that needs to be addressed is his incessant complaining of this site not covering White on White crimes. This site shouldn’t have to cover this topic because the “major” networks should cover that on a daily basis. Or at least the local affiliates. Besides, a White on White crime is rarely a hate crime, unless religious-based or sexual-orientation based. Hate crime laws were only meant to benefit blacks… Bottom line.”

    Shouldn’t have to cover white-on-white crime, huh?!? But thought that, for you people, the death of any white person is a form of white genocide. Oh, that’s right! Only when the death of a white person is at the hands of a nonwhite person, then it is white genocide. Perhaps you’d be satisfied if the mainstream media talked about nonwhite-on-white crime all the time and NEVER discussed white-on-white criminal acts. But then, since did moral equivalency ever mattered to anyone?

    The fact that my “idiotic ramblings” has you people on the defensive suggests that there may be some degree of truth to what I’m saying about the double standard I’m seeing here, and that just doesn’t sit well with you, does it? That hypocritical reflection in my metaphoric mirror — the possibility that whites who rant about the liberal media’s hypocrisy is really no different than their own —  is becoming too much for you people to bare, isn’t it.

    But for what it’s worth, I’m opposed to hate crime laws, too. See! We’re not so different, after all.

  • kminta

    Removed my comments again, huh Mr. Moderator? It’s a well-known fact that hypocrites don’t like people with dissenting views. I guess the same goes for this website.

    Keep on omitting my post. It’s a testament to the hypocrisy that this website claims to be against. (Oh, and the “troll-ish” excuse you people used last time won’t work this time around.)

  • kminta

    “This website is responding to the hypocrisy of the news media.”
    Just as I’m responding to the hypocrisy of this website with its overemphasis on black-on-white crime; as if that’s the only criminal act that takes place in this country.

    I’m not denying that blacks victimize whites more than vice versa. But it’s also a statistical fact that intra-racial crime is a more common occurrence than interracial criminal offenses. Now ask yourself this question: if intra-racial crime is more commonplace than interracial crime, why doesn’t a supposed pro-white forum base like AR talk about that?

    Here’s the answer: because discussing same race-on-race crime is counter productive; and nobody likes to talk about their internal problems. In my experience, it’s just natural for some (if not most) people to blame external factors for their own personal or societal woes. 

    So while blacks may target whites for victimization more frequently than whites target blacks, blacks generally victimize their own just as whites victimize their own. And like I said, people in general don’t like to air out their “dirty laundry.”

  • kminta

    Does that include ALL nonwhites, or is “black” your favorite color?

    Stereotype my people as trouble-makers all you want. But I’m willing to bet that the American Indians felt the same way about you “pale skins” when your ancestors decimated them with your European diseases and took what didn’t belong to them. You whites were doing wonders back in Europe. Why didn’t your people just stay there and leave the indigenous people of the North American continent alone? That’s a little something that whites like you would like to sweep under the rug.

    America has a dark history that many whites such as yourself would like to forget. But you can’t face the future if you don’t know the past.

    Oh, and FYI, intra-racial crime is more commonplace than interracial crime; just so you know. I suggests that your people start to acknowledge your own “dirty laundry” first before you proceed to complain about mine.

  • kminta

    “I don’t claim to be fair and balanced. I am not. You don’t play fair  when the other side doen’t even pretend to be fair.”

    Didn’t you say the same exact thing to me on another article/topic? You really should stop repeating yourself, Alex?

    So “two wrongs don’t make a right” seems to be an alien concept to you, eh, Alex? Well, if you wanna lower yourself to the sub-levels of our bias, liberal media, who am I to stop you?

    When, or if, you decide to see the light and take the objective side of things, perhaps then you’ll start to look more of a decent human being to me.

    (Oh, and Mr. Moderator…I know that it’s within your discretion to delete any post that you don’t like. But how’s about you keep this one on? At least long enough for Mr. Alex to read it?)

  • kminta

    “I don’t claim to be fair and balanced. I am not.
    You don’t play fair  when the other side doen’t even pretend to be fair.”

    Didn’t you say this same exact thing to me over at another article? You really should stop repeating yourself, Alex.

    Your “if our liberal media doesn’t play fair, then when should we?” thinking is lacking in the basic fact that national media covers a wide range of subjects besides race. This website, however, is so race-obsessed that it can no longer see straight. Besides, ever heard of “two wrongs don’t make a right”?

    If you don’t want to be fair and balanced, that’s your right. But the day you decide to be objective (at least on the subject of race) is the day I’ll start to look at you, at least, as fair-minded and decent human being again.