Vladimir Putin Ridiculed After Demanding Russians Have More Sex to Halt Declining Population

Will Stewart and Suzannah Hills, Daily Mail (London), February 13, 2012

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was mocked by his own countrymen today after urging Russians to start having more sex to put a stop to the country’s declining population.

In one of his more controversial presidential election campaign pledges, Putin vowed to give cash incentives to mothers who have a third child, to help encourage more births.

Russia is the largest geographical country in the world but its 142 million population is smaller than both Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Putin, who served two consecutive presidential terms between 2000 and 2008 followed by his current term as prime minister, warned that the current steady population decline could see 50 million fewer Russians by 2050 to just 107million people.

The Russian Prime Minister, who is now seeking his third presidential term in the March election, declared: ‘We are facing the risk of turning into an ‘empty space’ whose fate will not be decided by us.’

‘The historic price of the choice between action and inaction is nearly 50 million human lives over the next 40 years.’

Since Putin first came to power in 2000 the population has decreased by 2.5 million Russians so the Prime Minister has made increasing the country’s birth rate through Government incentives one of his key election pledges.

He vowed to offer more free kindergarten places, cheaper housing, and a £140 a month benefit bonus to mothers who have a third child, in a bid to boost the population size to 154million people.

But critics claim his policies have failed to make families feel confident about the future with the country still facing lower life expectancy rates than other developed countries.

His latest plans also propose action to stop chronic alcohol and drug abuse, in addition to easing immigration curbs, which he had only just tightened.

Anatoly Vishnevsky, director of the Moscow-based Demography Institute, said: ‘These measures are not enough.

‘It’s impossible to imagine how you could boost the population except through massive immigration.’

And his edict to go forth and multiply was also immediately ridiculed by his countrymen on internet forums and websites.

One woman, Inna, said: ‘So, now we have to make love non-stop? In the USSR they said there was no sex in the country. In the Russian Federation it’s have sex then take the money.’

Another wrote sarcastically: ‘Putin is like a God. He will restore the birthrate and save Russia. Oh Prometheus!’

A third added: ‘If a woman doesn’t want to give birth, nothing will change it, no matter where he puts his money.’

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  • Anonymous

    Abortion is a controversial subject, so perhaps I shouldn’t discuss it here.

    Eh.  Russia should ban abortions for native Russians and foreign whites.  How about that?  They’ve already done it for sex-selective reasons elsewhere.

    Oh, but wait a minute, that’s hate speech.  But we’re allowed to debate about abortion, right?  Maybe not.  I don’t know anymore.

    I want to have children of my own some day not just to continue my family line but also to ensure that the white race doesn’t die out.  Abortion is an evil and Russia is suffering from that evil, as well as every other white nation.

    • Marcy Fleming

       I’m all for abortion since no one has a right to be born and no human has the right to remain inside another human against that person’s will.
      In fact I want it subsidized for low-income ghetto women.
      Abortion is not an evil and today Black women are having 60% of all US abortions.
      The Right needs to terminate this medieval fetus fetishism, the Right in France is pro-abortion.
      Repeal the Hyde Amendment.
      ML King’s daughter claims the US would have 25% more Blacks but for abortion.
      Is that what you want ? Considering the kind of governments Russia has always had, abortion makes good sense.

      • Anonymous

         “ML King’s daughter claims the US would have 25% more Blacks but for abortion.
        Is that what you want ?”

        Of course not.  I specifically said that abortion should only be legal for non-whites in Russia.  I believe the same should be done here in the USA, Canada, UK, Ireland, and all other white nations to prevent our people from fading into the pages of history.

        • Marcy Fleming

           Nonsense ! You can’t have the state discriminate like that.

    •  If we didn’t have abortion, millions of Whites would be alive today that would help sustain our numbers but instead we chose to massacre them.

      • Marcy Fleming

         Just as likely there would be even more brainwashed Left whites if abortion were outlawed.

    • Abortion for White People (White Babies) should be Illegal but for Non-Whites, Abortion should be Encouraged.

      If not that, then at the very least, Americans should not be forced to subsidize them and their “saved” children.

      • Anonymous

         I mentioned this to my father a while back, and he reacted in horror, mentioning that I had better not tell anyone.  This opinion (I’m glad I’m not the only one who has it) would infuriate both pro-life and “pro-choice”.

        I feel abortion is a terrible thing, as I’ve been taught since I was very little in Catholic schools.

        Still, we are witnessing the demographic annihilation of our people and something must be done to prevent it.

        Only third-world savages would kill their own progeny, and I believe the law should limit it as such.

        • Anon

          It is those Catholic “hispanics” crossing our borders that we support that keep having baby after baby. I don’t see the Catholic church supporting them, do you?  They talk the talk but do not walk the walk.

          • Marcy Fleming

             Exactly.

        • Marcy Fleming

           You were brainwashed in Catholic schools. The Church has been against contraception period and the Pope went to Africa even preaching this !
          No one-sided discriminatory law here would pass.

        • I tell pro-choice people to pay for their beloved unborn.  You want ’em?  You pay for ’em.

          I feel this way because non-whites use children as paychecks (welfare) and some White People promote it.  I just don’t want to pay for non-whites.  They don’t don’t help me so I don’t know why I need to help them.

      • Marcy Fleming

         That will never fly so why waste time advocating it ? And many whites are not fit for Motherhood either.

        • I advocate for it because they are most of the World’s Population.  They breed far too fast and consume way too much.

          • Marcy Fleming

             Actually the more prosperous people do far more of the consuming which is what the stupid Left is always complaining
            about.

    • Marcy Fleming

       There are no white nations as such and they are not suffering from abortion but benefiting from it as blacks have 60% of all abortions now in the US. Before that it was liberal upper income whites and how do you think their offspring would have turned out politically ? Ergo for western Europe which is well to the left of even the US and I want to see more of THEM ? No thanks.

  •  No one has the right to be born? Care to explain?

    • Marcy Fleming

       Yes, your Mother makes that choice for you. You are part of her body until birth.
      Spermatozoa, zygotes, embroyos and fetuses have no rights either independent of their carrier or superceding their carrier. Parts of a body do not have rights that supercede the whole of the body. There is no right in nature to be born. The odds are strongly against pregnancy and the ddecision to terminate a pregnancy is the sole province of the woman carrier. When you guys can get pregnant then you get a say in it, for yourselves only.

      • And yet, half of the DNA of those “non-viable tissue masses” you mention come from a man.

        • Marcy Fleming

           True enough but men can’t get pregnant. And by the way, I never referred to non-viable tissue masses. That is not my argument.

          • OTOH, a woman cannot wind up in the family way without that certain contribution from a man, whether that contribution is a direct deposit or a third party check.

          • Marcy Fleming

             Agreed obviously but only a woman can get pregnant.

  • Putin at best is a civic nationalist. He cares nothing for ethnic Russians. You can be from Africa, speak the Russian language act like you respect Russian culture and you are Russian according to Vlad. 

    Most of the subsidies go to non-white “Russians”, as they are the ones who breed the most. 

  • Anonymous

    The problem is not the amount of sex in Russia – there’s plenty of that – it’s how it doesn’t result in live births. Abortion is the first and main reason. Russians have long depended it on it as a plan-B birth control method and it’s not at all unusual for a woman to have had three, four or five abortions. Paying people to have babies doesn’t work either – it never has in any country that tries it. First of all, it only gets put on the table well after the demographic situation has passed crisis point. Secondly, choosing to not have kids is not the kind of decision that’s easily reversed by a few hundred dollars. It just so happens that I live in a country that pays new mothers for each child they have & my wife and I are expecting a child in August. The money works out to about $600. Now, I’ll take it if they’ve giving it but that’s hardly the kind of sum that’s going to make any difference in the life of my child. Anyway, back to Russia, the final reason is that they seem to be hell-bent on destroying themselves anyway. The life expectancy for men there is just over 60 and falling. This is the country where people drink industrial solvents to get a buzz, where as recently as 20 years ago the president of the country had to beg the people to stop drinking so much vodka (when he wasn’t drunk himself), where life for so many is as bleak as the awful industrial cities where they live – trust me, I’ve been there and it’s not the kind of place that inspires you to bring a few more mouths into this world.

    • Marcy Fleming

       Your last paragraph sums it up beautifully.

  • ATBOTL

    If the payments were substantial enough, they would have a big impact.  

    • Marcy Fleming

       Maybe but I don’t want to pay for other people’s babies.

  • Anonymous

    ” Look at how many of our White fallen soldiers would have had White
    babies if not for these idiotic wars that our enemy got us into.  Could
    be the very reason THEY got us into all these wars”

    Indeed, I think this is the true reason that the US government is trying to maneuver us into war with Iran, Russia, and China.  Barack Obama has made it clear, especially through the actions of the notorious Eric Holder, that he doesn’t care about the whites who live under his iron fist.

    WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, etc. should never have been fought not only because war is evil, but because it is one of the prime causes of the destruction of our race.

    • Marcy Fleming

       Exactly. You sum it up perfectly.

  • Anonymous

    Putin needs a law that would allow him to sentence liberals, advocates of open borders and all others who could be categorized as “cultural marxist” or pro-US/EU to six years of service in 
    an infantry battalion as a private.  Russians would then take him seriously and  think that there is some hope for the nation.

    Putin is at least a semi-nationalist-all the other leaders of the major historically white countries of the West (and Russia is only semi-Western)  are openly treasonous.  

    • Marcy Fleming

       There are already way too many bad laws in Russia.

  • Anonymous

    Gimme a break.  Black conspiracy theorists like Alveda King, and their white “conservative” enablers, say the equivalent thing about abortion — that it’s part of a “plot” to exterminate blacks.  Granted, abortion is an ugly business, but it has absolutely nothing to do with Marxism.  And merely outlawing it isn’t going to end it.  Every country in history that has tried this has failed. 

    • Yeah, some successful “plot.”  The black population keeps increasing from census to census.

    • Marcy Fleming

       Good points but there’s nothing ugly about abortion. There are a great many births that have ugly consequences.

  • Anonymous

    What I find especially galling about all this is that Slavic women are among the most beautiful in the world.  Why wouldn’t white Russian men want to make love to these women?  I don’t get it.

    • Marcy Fleming

       They do. But they don’t want kids because it’s a horrible place.

  • Marcy Fleming

     Nonsense. A woman who is the only one who can get pregnant should bear the fetus for nine months because a man like you who can’t get pregnant says so ! Rubbish, you don’t play the game, you don’t make the rules.

  • Marcy Fleming

     What does ‘design’ mean here ? That she’s obligated to carry to term every time she gets pregnant ? Medieval nonsense and the Right’s anti-abortion idiocy has killed the GOP.
    The woman didn’t make her bed, she can do the responsible thing and abort.
    If men could pregnant abortion would be one of the holy sacraments.

    • Marcy Fleming

       Replying to Zorro below, we are both right. You on the warmongering neocons and me on abortion.

  • Marcy Fleming

    No life is sanctified and no human, so-called, has the right to live inside the body of another human against the carrier’s will. There is no right to birth or right to life in general. There are no guarantees in life including life itself nor does the individual live for the state which is Putin’s premise. We don’t need ex-KGB thugs to instruct us in the value of life. There are no unborn children, you are a real child after birth. We all celebrate our birthdays, not our moment of conception.
    Anti-abortion laws are the epitome of statism. There’s nothing ‘Marxist’ about freedom of choice in reproduction.  Rumania under Stalinists outlawed abortion as did Stalin at different times in the USSR.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Russia is suffering from 71 years of Communism and the Mafia governments under post-Communism since 1992 and hundreds of years of Czarism before the Communists.
    Anti-abortion laws are statist-collectivist to the core as National Socialist
    (Nazi) Germany proved as well as Communist Rumania, most of Latin America,
    etc., demonstrated.
    There’s nothing ‘Marxist’ about the right to abort, it’s a libertarian doctrine to the core. Ayn Rand, an emigre from the Soviets, was the biggest champion of abortion rights. Murray Rothbard, the Godfather of Libertarianism, championed
    abortion rights in The Ethics Of Liberty (pages 98-100).
    There are a great many women who should not have babies. But it’s their choice, we need not pay for it. They do.

  • Marcy Fleming

     I don’t abortion’s evil but I do agree with you that there has been a paradigm shift away from traditional values. Traditions come and go. There were a lot of unhappy marriages in the 50s.

  • Marcy Fleming

     No, there are way too many Whiggers too……………

  • Marcy Fleming

     I agree with your third sentence. I do not want government subsidizing pregnancy for anyone.

  • Marcy Fleming

     No one “tells” whites not to have babies nor should they tell them to have them.
    Your last paragraph is true.

  • Marcy Fleming

     An assertion as in your first sentence doesn’t equate to an argument. Of course blacks would have more children if abortion were outlawed as would the worst kinds of others too. Entitlements won’t be ended any time soon that’s an irrelevant point.
    Russia is headed for failure as usual.

  • Anonymous

    There is nothing self-contradictory in my statement.  Pro-life whites are making a huge mistake in casting their lot with people like Alveda King (MLK’s niece).  As for me, while I dislike abortion, outlawing the practice will not reduce its incidence, only drive it underground, a la Prohibition.  In other words, it won’t work. 

  • Marcy Fleming

     Your missing my whole point, only women can get pregnant and only women should make that choice.
    On issues other abortion I agree with you about white feminists.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Until they are separated from the mother they are mere extensions of her, that is the reason for birth. Actually unless you have born a fetus for nine months you have no grounds for labeling it as ‘trivial’ ! It is true that it is afterwards an 18 or 21 or 25 or 30 year commitment. No one ever argued that people are mere extensions of their mothers for the rest of their lives. That’s a strawman argument no one makes. Your last sentence is food for thought. It seems to me that many men already act on that premise now.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Abortion is not murder and it is not senseless, there are good reasons to abort.
    No one is advocating legalizing murder or rape or fraud or robbery or burglary as these are all agreed on real crimes. Abductio Ad Absurdum can be valid in some cases but here it utterly fails.
    But nice try anyway.

  • Marcy Fleming

     Your confusing a human person from a human being. A human being is one who separates from the woman into a distinct entity. A spermatozoa, zygote, embroyo and fetus do not meet this standard.
    Do you celebrate your birthday or your moment of conception ?
    Obviously only a human can give birth to a human ? Have you ever encountered anyone who thought differently ?
    The Founders did not recognize a right to be born.
    They were talking only about rights that pertain to people after they are born. The unborn have no rights.
    The Founders only meant that no one could infringe on your life, they did not mean that you had a right to life which would assume a communist welfare state to guarantee you same out of the hides of more productive people.
    Life is always contingent, it depends on certain self-sustaining actions or else you perish.
    Do you have any inkling of what sort of a total statist-collectivist society that you are advocating with a notion of the rights of the unborn ? And the sort of police apparatus it would take to enforce it ?
    Furthermore the anti-abortion right has the same absurd premises as the environmentalist left that the future overrides the present and that the unborn have rights that override the born.
    Marxists have not pushed population control a la the UN as regards births. They in fact welcome lots of Third World births including here in the USA.
    Only in Red China after the worst of Maoism ended has there been compulsory abortion and I have argued against it with people on this site who favored it !

    • Marcy Fleming

       Reply to Zorro, I’m getting tired of repeating myself.
      I never said the fetus or zygote or spermatozoa or embroyo was not alive.
      I gave my reasons why they have no claim on the carrier and you have simply elided them. Where does it say that the Founders were referring to the unborn has having rights ?
      And frankly since the Founders did sanction slavery why would they be the last word on it anyway ?
      I post all the time on The New American, the JBS website, and much of the time on this subject. They are very fair about other points of view and I probably agree with them 90% of the time.
      The UN is not the danger, the US FedGov is and any muscle the UN has comes from the US solely. Getting out of the UN is fine but they are not the danger, DC is.
      We will just have to agree to disagree on abortion. We agree on many other things.

  • Chris

    Wow these people are nasty. He’s offering them help if they decide to have 3 or more children. Thats more than what any other government gives the native population. During the baby boomer days, women would have 4-7 children often, then told to have less. If one wants a bigger family they’ll be supported and the future of russia will be secured. Man people are selfish. It’s not like people don’t have a lot of sex with condoms, just don’t wear one lol don’t blame putin when the children you do have are outnumbered in an undermanned nation just waiting for their inevitible slaughter and rape from other nations. Safety in numbers guys and gals.