Racial Tensions Flare in Protest of South Dallas Gas Station

Steve Thompson, Dallas News, February 5, 2012

Marcus Phillips was 26 and fresh out of prison for several robberies when he committed his final crime.

One morning just before dawn, Phillips grabbed the cash register at a South Dallas gas station. The clerk picked up a shotgun and ordered Phillips down.

Phillips ran from the store and across the parking lot, the cash register under his arm, the clerk not far behind. There was a struggle, more running, then another struggle. Then came a warning shot and a final, fatal blast.

Most of those now protesting the Diamond Shamrock Kwik Stop on Martin Luther King Boulevard never knew Phillips or even his name. But his death in 2010 has become a symbol in their fight to shut the station down. The dispute revolves around issues of race: Phillips was black, and the clerk—and the store’s owner—are of Korean descent.

The protests are held six days a week and are organized by top leaders of the local NAACP and the Nation of Islam, among other groups. Their complaints: That the Kwik Stop, owned by a Korean immigrant, charges unreasonable prices and disrespects black customers.

The owner, Thomas Pak, says he never intended to disrespect anyone.

“I pay my taxes. I work hard to feed my family. That’s the bottom line,” said Pak, 40. “I don’t have a complex about race. I’m not a racist. I’m just trying to follow the American dream.”

The legacy of conflict between Asian-American merchants and customers in depressed African-American neighborhoods dates to well before its depiction in Hollywood films such as Menace II Society and Do the Right Thing.

Now the narrative is playing out in Dallas, where, by coincidence, a national group of Korean-American leaders expects to join with the NAACP this week to announce a formal agreement on common goals.

The purpose of the agreement is, in part, to prevent the sort of tension now escalating around the Kwik Stop in South Dallas.

{snip}

“You cannot cross this picket line,” Dallas NAACP president Juanita Wallace told a taxi driver one recent afternoon as he pulled into the Kwik Stop.

Her sign said: “Killed a man 4 stealing.” Fellow protesters held other signs: “They’re using the n-word” and “Exploitation.”

“This is an official protest,” Wallace continued. “This man does price-gouging. He killed a man. We need you to move on.”

{snip}

The protesters sign up for two-hour shifts between 10 a.m. and 5:30 p.m. each day except Sunday. Sometimes it’s just one or two protesters and other times a dozen or more.

{snip}

The 2010 shooting was the first incident recounted by protesters.

However, the boycott started only after an encounter between Pak and a local Nation of Islam leader, Jeffery Muhammad, student minister of the nearby Muhammad Mosque No. 48. He walked into the Kwik Stop one day in early December.

Pak and Muhammad disagree on what happened. Muhammad says he simply asked to charge $5 in gas on his debit card. Pak says Muhammad immediately started berating and accusing him of exploiting the community.

Muhammad says he talked of exploitation only after Pak told him there was a $10 minimum for debit card purchases. Pak says he imposed the limit only to get rid of Muhammad, who Pak thought was spoiling for a fight.

They agree on this: Once things got heated, Pak called Muhammad a racial slur. Pak says he used the word only after Muhammad issued his own epithet; Muhammad denies using any slurs.

“I didn’t expect it was going to explode like this,” Pak said of the encounter. “It was a personal argument.”

Muhammad, 44, who was appointed to his post in 1994 by Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, says Pak must go. So should other Asian-American merchants in black neighborhoods, he says.

“They are just the latest in a long line of people who have come to this country—like Jews, Italians, Indians and now Asians—who have sucked the blood of and exploited the black community,” Muhammad said.

{snip}

Pak was a teenager when he came to the United States with his parents in 1990. He became a citizen and says he served in the Army National Guard from 1994 to 2000.

{snip}

Pak, who lives with his wife and a 9-year-old daughter in Coppell, said he has worked 20-hour days in the past to keep his business afloat. He and three employees, two of whom are black, have become terrified amid the protest.

{snip}

Pak said that he was wrong to use a racial slur with Muhammad, and he regrets it. But he also said he is frequently the target of slurs while at the store and often sees black people use the epithet on each other.

He calls “nonsense” the allegation that he is a racist.

{snip}

City Council member Carolyn Davis, whose district includes the Kwik Stop, counts herself among the protesters. She called during a recent council meeting for the city to scrutinize the business.

Since late December, Pak says, city inspectors have visited him twice. He remembers only three other inspections in the previous 10 years he has owned the store.

{snip}

The Korean American Coalition and the Greater Dallas Asian American Chamber of Commerce have stepped in to help, concerned about heightened animosity toward Asian-American business owners.

{snip}

The recent deaths of Korean-American shopkeepers have put that community on edge. In late 2009, Kee-Sun Chung was shot and killed when two masked men tried to rob his east Oak Cliff doughnut shop. In July, another east Oak Cliff store owner, Jin Kim Ha, was shot in a robbery at closing time and died at a hospital.

Eugene Yu, national president of the Federation of Korean Associations, flew to Dallas from Georgia to help resolve Pak’s predicament. {snip}

Yu, also a member of the NAACP, will be among the leaders attending a Korean-American leadership conference in Dallas this weekend. There, he expects his federation’s new agreement with the NAACP will be announced. National NAACP leaders say one of their officials, perhaps their president, will speak at the event.

“I’m not saying that store owner did right … I hope he’s learned lessons from this incident,” Yu said. “I can see these people are angry. But we will do anything to plead with them to please give Tommy Pak a second chance.”

Protest leaders say that won’t happen. Muhammad says there can be only one resolution: “That man needs to leave our community, because he is no longer welcome.”

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  • Anonymous

    Blacks wonder why there are no major chain supermarkets or variety stores in their neighborhoods . . . From the need for additional security to the abuse heaped on store personnel, who needs it??  Perhaps Mr. muhammed could rally some of his fellow Bantus to open a store and run it . . . Nah, too much like WORK–long hours, surly customers . . .
    Where blacks see a “legacy of slavery” and being put on by the “man”, many immigrants see opportunity.  Having an extended family helps too . . .

    • Anonymous

      Blacks have HUGE extended families, their daddys just aren’t around to tell them who they are related to.

      • Anonymous

        All the wailing and gnashing of teeth by the NAACP and Nation of Islam didn’t distract me from the fact that there are more dead Koreans in this article than dead Blacks.

  • B

    The rest of society will never stoop to the low moral character that the black “community”represents and this is why so many blacks will always be considered as outsiders in a multiracial society. This is why blacks remain so segregated even after many generations. Crime is the real wedge here, not racism.

  • crystal evans

    When Black people open a business in a black community, the other members of the black community will rob the business and force it to close or to relocate elsewhere.

  • Anonymous

    “One protester says Asian merchants should leave black neighborhoods.”
     
    If the Koreans leave, who will keep the businesses open?  Even if they turned them over to  blacks free of charge, blacks couldn’t keep them open, mostly due to gross incompetence and lack of intelligence.  Ordering out the Koreans is the same as burning them down.  Either way there would be no existing businesses in their places.
     
    I have a strong hunch that the Korean group leaders are going to rue the day they made any kind of agreement with the NAACP.  Their ulterior motives  always involve a desire for domination and control.  In this case getting both would mean bankruptcy and the loss of businesses.
     
    These fights will continue between blacks and Koreans,  just as they continue between blacks and Indians and Blacks and Hispanics every day of the year.  Blacks fight with everybody.
     
    Mark Lloyd, Obama’s FCC czar is pressuring white T.V. stations to replace white workers with blacks, although most blacks can only read a teleprompter and write basic, elementary news stories, most of which sound like the were written by the eighth grade.
     
    Lloyd openly said, “It is time for white people to step down and let minorities in positions of power.”  If anybody thinks Lloyd doesn’t have the leverage to dictate who t.v. stations hire, better think again.  He is responsible for a complete inundation of blacks into t.v. networks, far in excess of their proportion of the population, which is a little less than 13%.
     
    So while these Koreans are wringing their hands over having to give up their businesses so blacks can take them over and ruin them, they should be glad they are not whites who have to step aside while an incompetent takes over and pretends he/she got the job through his own efforts and qualifications.  In his second term, Obama will inundate other professions more so than he is doing right now.  That’s what community organizers do.

    And blacks will continue to fail and it will be due to racism, of course, which the NAACP will be happy to point out.  Once they’re in it’s next to impossible to get them out, no matter how grossly unqualified they might be.

    Koreans, whites, Indians and Hispanics must all bow  to America’s black god.

    I say to all non-black races in America:  See how many privileges you could get….just like blacks…. when the corrupt bureaucrats are terrified you will riot and jeopardize their power and assets?  Obeying the law and being non-violent contributes to your status as a second-class citizen compared to blacks.

    So, turn over your businesses to them if they complain and give up your hard earned positions, because the elites MUST appease the potential black anarchists at all costs.

    • Marcy Fleming

      Great post ! Many thanks.

  • The protests are held six days a week and are organized by top leaders of the local NAACP and the Nation of Islam,
    among other groups. Their complaints: That the Kwik Stop, owned by a
    Korean immigrant, charges unreasonable prices and disrespects black
    customers.

    What quickie-mart doesn’t charge unreasonable prices?  They can’t exactly command Safeway-style and Wal-Martinez-style supermarket/big-box wholesale volume deals from the wholesalers/OEMs/producers/manufacturers.

    Remember when Dallas used to be populated with people thought of as stereotypical Texans?

    • Anonymous

      Well prices on gasoline, cigarettes and beer usually are competitive. Now if you want to buy a can of cat food or a tiny package of coffee the prices are very high, that is why they call them “convenience” stores, you buy those items there because it is convenient.

      The black was probably complaining about high prices because he remembers seeing gas for 2 cents less at another station months before.

      • Obviously, a quickie-mart with a gas station will have competitive prices on gas.  Except if the gas station is close to a highway exit, a central business district or is in a relatively high income part of town, or in the ghetto, then it’ll be higher.  Cigs, yeah, they’re not much higher than the big boxes.  But I don’t agree about beer.

    • Anonymous

      “Remember when Dallas used to be populated with people thought of as stereotypical Texans?”

      Yep, those Black folks are some of the New Orleans refugees from huricane Katrina.  Crime jumped 30% in many of the areas where the refugees were relocated.     

  • Anonymous

    Muhammad, 44, who was appointed to his post in 1994 by Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, says Pak must go. So should other Asian-American merchants in black neighborhoods, he says.

    I suggest they be more mindful of what they wish for, or as it usually goes with blacks, demand.  There is a reason it’s hard to get any business to open in black communities, so they should be thankful these people are willing and treat them with a little more respect. Yeah, I know…. It’ll never happen.

  • Another thing.  They complain about Pak’s “exorbitant” prices.

    First off, most of his customers are probably swiping the EBT, so why should they care?

    Second, if Pak’s prices are higher than even other quickie-marts (which as I said above, are high anyway), it’s because his insurance costs are higher because of crime and stealing on a part of “da cuhmewnitee” that wants to run him out on a rail.  Pak is running one store, he’s not exactly Quik Trip or Race Trac or Circle K or Tiger Mart or On The Run, a large chain which can get a volume deal on insurance.  The $1.29 you’ll pay at QT for the little bag of Doritos will be $1.49 at Pak’s joint because his insurance costs are higher.  That and the chain quickie-marts can get a bit of a volume discount from the distributors of snacks and sodas and beer and porn magazines, but again, nothing like Wal-Martinez can get.

    • Anonymous

      The prices have to be high to pay for Pak’s bullet proof glass and make up for all the orange drink & hot fries that disapear from his shelves.

      Seriously, isn’t that the truth?

    • Anonymous

      Have you googled Kwik Stop? It doesn’t exist online. Guess the owner thought he didn’t need to pay any franchise fees to White
      American owned companies.

      How is that working out for you Mr. Pak?

      • Probably because it’s not a national chain or a national franchise operation, it’s just Pak’s name for his own quickie mart.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah well I pay too much for various  insurance policies because if something happens I know they will drag out the high paid lawyers that will fight for me. Pak should have thought of that when he was researching convenience store opportunities.

      • Anonymous

        We have Kwik Fills here in Buffalo. They’re probably comparable to Kwik Stops:

        http://www.kwikfill.com/

        • Anonymous

          I’ve used them many times. I never saw a Korean in any of them. If I did, I would’ve avoided them, even though you have little brand choice in Buffalo.

  • Anonymous

    i think blacks don’t understand that a gas station is not a charity for their community at large. when a hard working asian person makes money then in the child-like mind of the black this asian guy  is stealing from them. with blacks you cannot win…they demand equal treatment yet resent it at the same time. they are too stupid to go to school…to stupid to hold a job…they seem to love their ghettos though.

  • A black strolls into the
    market and walks out with the cash register and yet the nation of islam and the
    naacp have the audacity to argue blacks are being “disrespected” by
    the store owner. This is why blacks will never be able to live in civilized
    White society.

    How do you even begin to
    address a group of people with this mindset? It is not even possible.

    • Anonymous

      I was thinking the same thing. I believe they behave and think this way because any and all have given in to and groveled at any preceived slight or demand, so they think they can get away with anything because nobody will call them on it…. and they would be correct.

      On a different note… who doesn’t know these kind of stores charge outrageous prices?  Even here in our rural area, I avoid buying anything but gas from these places unless it’s the middle of the night when nothing else is open and I have no choice. I just thought that was common knowledge.

  • Anonymous

    “Most of those now protesting the Diamond Shamrock Kwik Stop on Martin Luther King Boulevard never knew Phillips or even his name. But his death in 2010 has become a symbol in their fight to shut the station down. The dispute revolves around issues of race: Phillips was black, and the clerk—and the store’s owner—are of Korean descent.”

    A black man committing armed robbery on Martin Luther King BOULEVARD? What are the chances?

    Blacks are their own worst enemies. These Korean and Asian stores are the ONLY positive contributions to black neighborhoods and yet blacks demand the owners should leave. THEN blacks complain they don’t have anywhere to shop and whine about ‘food deserts’!

    Asians should leave for two reason. For their own safety and to let black communities sink to their inevitable lowest common denominator.

  • Maybe if blacks would open businesses in black communities, Asians and others wouldn’t need to.

    • Anonymous

       Chris, they already have ‘businesses’ in their community, they’re called ‘unlicensed pharmaceutical distributors’……..

      • Marcy Fleming

        Indeed !

    • Anonymous

      as one poster mentioned other blacks would expect something for free and then rob it over and over. its the pathology of this group of people…why do anything constructive when we can steal from YT.

      •  During the 1992 Rodney King riots, black-owned businesses were singled out for destruction because the owners were “race traitors” and “acting white.”

        As long ago as 1994, about the only legitimate businesses in South Dallas were liquor stores and pawnshops. All the others had either been destroyed or driven out.

  • Anonymous

    “He killed a man for stealing!”

    I remember reading an account about daily life in the slums of Nairobi, Kenya.
    Apparently, theft in the markets over there, is a big problem.Small, trivial items of very little value are pilfered regularly by ‘light hands and sticky fingers’, perhaps the value of the goods stolen is no more $1.
     Anyhow, the market traders have a way of dealing with this.As soon as a thief is spotted a hue and cry is raised, basically what happens is that a swarm of at least a dozen people descend on the thief and beat him to death.Yes, beaten to death, it’s not just a beating to serious injury.
     The corpse is then tossed aside and business goes on as usual.That’s the sart and the end of the matter, just another passing incident.

  • B

    I just love it when blacks call for segregation. If we can get Nation of Islam leader, Jeffery Muhammad to convince all blacks  to leave white neighborhoods then I’m sure us whites would be happy to agree to stay out of theirs. Fair enough Jeff?

  • Anonymous

    The AMERICAN Dream is for Whites only, not for blacks, mexicans, arabs, asians or any other group of different RACES.  IT IS OURS and for our progeny ONLY. 
    –    Anon
     
    ———-
     
    The only people with the right to say that are American Indians. Orientals are fine people. I have never known one I did not like. 
     
    This is what Jared Taylor has to say about Orientals: “Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.”
    http://colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html       

    This is what Professor J. Philippe Rushton of the University of Western Ontario has to say about them: “For the past twenty years I have studied race differences in brain size, intelligence, sexuality, personality, growth rate, life span, crime, and family stability. On all of these traits, Orientals fall at one end of the spectrum, Blacks fall at the other end, and Whites fall in in between. http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf

    • Anonymous

      Whites do NOT fall in between. We are NOT half black and half Asian. Asians do have some impressive countries and communities. I have traveled throughout Asia and have seen some amazing socieities. Also, I have had several Asian colleagues whom I think very highly of. I do not like the idea of being replaced by any race though. Would Koreans in Seoul or Japanese in Tokyo enjoy being displaced my millions of white Europeans (or other)? I think not. China and India were colonized by Britian. Vietnam and Cambodia were colonized by France. These countries hated European presence in their countries and fought for years to end colonization. No one blames them, but whites are not allowed the same privilege. Is that fair? Furthermore, Asians are not perfect. 

      Some Asian communities in the US are infested with organized crime. Violent extortion gangs are common in some chinatowns and SE Asian areas. That never existed in  small town America, despite whites having a higher average crime rate. Asians are typically intelligent, hard-working, and business-minded, but most vote democrat. Most of them supported Obama in the last election. Their youth, as studious as they are, have sold out to the marxist, globalist mantra. In the recent years, I worked at a UC in Southern California. Those Asian homeboys loved their gangsta rap and basketball. Their studious nature leads them follow everything their marxist, anti-american professors told them. I generally like Asians here in California. You are usually very safe around them. They are not however interchangeable with whites. I have nothing against Asians in general, but I am against race replacement.

      • Anonymous

         “Whites do NOT fall in between.”

        I believe Rushton/Murray/Lynn have written that, when it comes to brain size and IQ,  that Whites are in between but skewed towards the Asian side of the continuum.  70/100/105 and so on.

        I agree with you that Asians and White are not interchangeable, yet the two groups live/work together with (relatively) little conflict.  Compared to Black and Hispanics.  Asian-Americans do rather well in American society and East Asian nations have adapted quite well to industrialized society.   Unlike other genetic populations we talk about here. 

        • The question is…how well do White Americans do in Asian society?

        • Anonymous

           Thomas-
          “how well do White Americans do in Asian society?”

          And that’s the other side of the story.  Westerner expats (mostly White) in Asia are such small numbers that we really don’t have too much impact, positive or negative.  In Japan, most of us have respectable, skilled professions such as education, IT and finance.   We do get a certain level of respect for that but there is a bottom line that we are not Japanese.  Nothing hostile, just one never assimilates.  I don’t really try, mind you.

          My position here is somewhere between a house guest and a mercenary.  Life is comfortable and people are polite if a bit aloof.

    • Anonymous

      Errr, John Chinaman, Indians crossed the land bridge AFTER we did, slaughtering the White men and raping their women. If anyone has the right to be here, it’s us.

      Now go back to your Asian concubine.

      • Marcy Fleming

        Engelman has previously written many times that the GOP could never get the New Deal repealed, which is true because they never tried.
        NOW he claims with Reagan the New Deal policies were being repealed !
        Hogwash ! Readers should go to lewrockwell.com and print off or read the 1989 essay by Murray Rothbard titled Reagan:A Political Autopsy.
        David Stockman, who ought to know says Rothbard is entirely right that government expanded in all areas including joining us in the bathroom with drug testing and trying to do it in the bedroom with abortion.
        Reagan had three huge tax increases after his firsr tax decrease.
        His main accomplishment was repealing Nixon’s 55 MPH speed limit !
        Some ‘revolution.’
        The minimum wage has been a major cause of black youth unemployment since it was enacted in the late 30s. If it really worked then raise it to 50.00 an hour for every person.
        Unions starting losing ground in the 60s because people were seeing the Marxist class warfare underlying premises of a bunch of thugs who demanded producers produce jobs while making it impossible for them to do so. See the 1978 movie Blue Collar for an example of how corrupt they were just in Detroit in their heyday.
        And there are many great BOOKS on the subject too.
        I don’t believe Engelman’s source on East Asians because I have met way too many who were not that bright, as a native San Franciscan I have lived with the largest Chinese population outside of Asia. The differences between Japanese and Chinese, Koreans and Vietnamese, Thais and Bangladeshis, Pakis and Indonesians are enormous.
        Only uneducated, ignorant people lump they all together as Orientals or East Asians.

    • Beloved Comrade

      The only people with the right to say that are American Indians.

      The “American” Indians did not create the American dream, nor was it created for them or with them in mind.  There was no nation here, only primitive bands of warring tribes who didn’t have so much as a written language.  

      The American dream was created for Whites, by Whites “and their posterity” as stated specifically by the Founders in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution, “to secure the blessing of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.”

      • Anonymous

        Immigration is one of many issues where the U.S. Constitution is silent. Where the U.S. Constitution is silent it leaves the issue to the voters. The U.S. Constitution is not an articulation of the absolute truth. It is a guide book on how to operate a representative democracy.
         
        The point I make in this thread and elsewhere, and one where Jared Taylor and Professor J. Philippe Rushton, who has spoken at several American Renaissance conference, agree with me is that Orientals tend to perform and behave better than whites. Consequently they earn their positions at the best universities, with the best corporations, and in the most prestigious professions. 
         
        Nevertheless, white Americans do not need to fear displacement by Orientals. Oriental immigration to the United States is comparatively slight. This is because they are able to create thriving societies in countries where they have lived for many thousands of years longer than white have lived in the Untied States.

        • Anonymous

          China hadn’t been a thriving or stable  nation and culture for hundreds of years until they sampled Western ways of doing ‘business’. The same is pretty much true of Japan and S. Korea, even Vietnam.

        • Anonymous

          StivD,
           
          Because the average Oriental IQ is higher than the average white IQ Orientals are capable of building thriving societies. That is what they are doing, why large numbers of them are not migrating to the United States, and why whites do not need to worry about being somehow “displaced” by them. 
           
          The average white standard of living has declined in this century. That is because of decisions made by the white oligarchy that owns and runs America, and that has been getting richer. 
           
          ———-
           
           American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the third quarter [pf 2010], according to a Commerce Department report released Tuesday. That is the highest figure
          recorded since the government began keeping track over 60 years ago.
          http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/24/business/economy/24econ.html   
           
          ———- 
           
          Many companies are focusing on cost-cutting to keep profits growing, but the benefits are mostly going to shareholders instead of the broader economy, as management conserves cash rather than bolstering hiring and production. Harley,
          for example, has announced plans to cut 1,400 to 1,600 more jobs by the end of next year. That is on top of 2,000 job cuts last year — more than a fifth of its work force. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/business/economy/26earnings.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

        • Anonymous

          The Founding Fathers were NOT silent on immigration.

          The Preamble to the Constitution explicitly states that their purpose was “to secure the blessing of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”, not for the people of the world. This is NOT a proposition nation.
               
          – Beloved Comrade
           
          ———–
                
          Were all of your ancestors here when the United States Constitution was signed? The logical extension of your  reasoning is that those of your ancestors who immigrated to the United States after the signing of the U.S. Constitution should not have been allowed to immigrate, and that you should not have been born. 

  • Anonymous

    Most of those now protesting the Diamond Shamrock Kwik Stop on Martin Luther King Boulevard never knew Phillips or even his name. But his death in 2010 has become a symbol in their fight to shut the station down.   
    – Steve Thompson, Dallas News, February 5, 2012       
     
    ——————     

     Why am I not surprised that this happened on Martin Luther King Boulevard?

    • Marcy Fleming

      MLK, a man whose Socialist beliefs and Communist background the NY Times has lied about for decades.

    • Ditto…nothing good ever happens on a street named after Martin Luther King.

  • Anonymous

     “They agree on this: Once things got heated, Pak called Muhammad a racial
    slur. Pak says he used the word only after Muhammad issued his own
    epithet; Muhammad denies using any slurs.”

    There is a 100% chance that the black used a racial slur first (and often).

    Pak should just leave. These people are savages. Just ask the Jews, Irish, Italians, Indians and Arabs who came before him. If Martians come next the same things will happen.

  • Anonymous

    Black complaints about Orientals owning shops in black slums are like Nazi complaints that the Jews owned most of the department stores in Berlin. Hostility toward Orientals and Jews is the socialism of the gutter. People do not hate them because because they are dangerous and inferior, but because they are so obviously superior. 

    • You have an ignorance re German history that is breathtaking! Congratulations,genius. Where is your MacArthur Grant? or in your case,your MacDONALDS Grant? I see your absurd and cockamamie ass-kissing of Asians in a new light. You are  a profound fool.

    • Marcy Fleming

      More patent nonsense. There are good and bad Asians just as there are good and bad Jews, both in business and elsewhere. Some Asian merchants are real cheats as there are
      crooked Jewish financiers. Do I need to name a few ?
      Get off your ‘Nazi’ garbage, after 70 years that line is wearing thin.

      • Anonymous

        No race is without scoundrels. Nevertheless, most Jews and Orientals owe their success to good genes, good character, and hard work. 

        • Marcy Fleming

          That’s not true because most are not that good as humans.
          By the way, Orientals is a stupid term, they vary greatly.
          As for most Ashkenazim having good genes and good character what planet have you been living on ?

  • Anonymous

    Blacks in Dallas would love to do on to the Korean merchants what Black tyrant Idi Amin did to (mostly Muslim) Indian Asian merchants in Uganda.

    A lot of Blacks are most comfortable with hunter and gatherer societies (the “gathering” includes stealing stuff from other people).

    Modern societies with specialization of labor, asian merchants – this just doesn’t go over with many Black societies so everyone should stop trying to make it work.

    • Anonymous

      The differences between whites and blacks in average performance and behavior can be explained by the different number of generations that separate each race from a paleolithic existence. Agriculture and urban living exert different population pressures than hunting and gathering.
       
      Farmers need to defer gratification. They need to pick up after themselves, or the remains of butchered animals will spread disease. What hunters and gatherers do not eat rots, so there is no reason to save any of it. They do not need to clean up after a meal because they will be elsewhere in a few days. 
              
      In cities those with the intelligence to become merchants, money lenders, government officials, artists and so on live better lives than laborers and have more children that survive and reproduce. Criminal justice systems of civilized nations gradually remove those with criminal inclinations from the gene pool.
       
      Whites in the Near East invented agriculture ten thousand years ago. They invented civilization five thousand years ago. American Negroes are descended from the Bantu. Bantu learned agriculture three thousand years ago from the Nubians. The Nubians were a Negro nation who lived directly south of the Egyptians, and who learned agriculture and civilization from Egypt.
       
      Large numbers of Bantu in Africa, and their American descendants only began to live in cities in the twentieth century. American Negroes are prone to save less money than whites, even when they make the same incomes. Black neighborhoods generally have more litter than white neighborhoods. Urban areas where Blacks live are not known for civilized behavior. 
       
      All of this is explained in “The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution,” by professors Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending, of the University of Utah.
       
      http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/05/index.html     

      • Marcy Fleming

        Nonsense ! The criminal justice system is a joke, they promote black crime and general sociopathology. Read The Bell Curve and throw away the left rags like the
        NY Times.

        • Anonymous

          What does The New York Times have to do with my post? 
           
          The New York Times is one of the most prestigious newspapers in the English language. What newspapers do you respect? 

          • Marcy Fleming

            Prestigious only among the type of Establishment Boobs who support NPR, think Chomsky is the greatest intellectual, read The New Republic and other garbage. Walter Duranty’s pro-Communist whitewash of Stalin in the 30s while he was killing in the tens of millions, the Times whitewash of Mao who killed 110 million as an ‘agrarian reformer,in the 40s, Herbert Matthews whitewash of Castro in the 50s are just three examples of what a shabby liepaper the Times is. Do you want me to give a dozen more ?
            None in answer to your last question.

  • Anonymous

    These Asian run rip off convenience stores, mini markets are hated and resented the world round. Working class Whites in merry old England don’t want them in their White “hoods” any more than Blacks want them in their Black ghettos.

    Box stores – targets, Walmarts are much preferred. 

    Folks here have to get over falling for the “hard working, industrious Asian merchants”. Sure anything looks better than criminal, underclass Blacks – but White societies can do much better without these parasites. Whites can run gas stations where there are friendly, hard working White mechanics. 99% of the crap sold in these mini-marts Whites can do without. 

    • Anonymous

      What evidence have you got that White Britons resent ‘asian run stores’ in their ‘hoods’?

      For starters, the word ‘hood’ is never used in England.Secondly in England ‘asian’ means subcon Indian.Thirdly, in general the English don’t have that nasty attitude of American blacks.If they didn’t like or resented a shop owner, then they simply wouldn’t patronise the shop – end of story.Otherwise they simply accept the purely commercial transaction – they wouldn’t bitch about victimhood and exploitation.

      In general, most English people never wanted mass third world immigration and resent the fact of it being foisted on them – but they blame the government and not the immigrants, quite correctly.

      • I say,it seems you’ve raped my daughter,Muhammed. Bad sport that,eh wot? I shant blame you tho,poor bugger. I blame the government. That blasted David Cameron,in’it? Because we dont resent you,really we dont,not in the slightest. Nope. No resentment. That wouldnt be right…

        • Anonymous

          It’s the government who brought them here and it’s the government who should pay the price.
          A simple fact that some apparently can’t understand.
          No wonder we keep losing.

          • Anonymous

            Actually, Britain HAS a specifically anti-immigration party, the BNP, which has achieved a modicum of political success and more importantly has managed to shift the political debate on immigration to a restrictionist direction.(The Labour Party was politically slaughtered a couple of years ago and is unlikely to hold power again for a generation – alldue to its immigration policy).
            In the USA you elect ‘conservatives’ such as George W. Bush who once in office does his damndest to introduce one ‘amnesty’ after another with an open immigrationist agenda.

          • Anonymous

            Holding both accountable would be the best.

    • Anonymous

      How are those who succeed academically and in business parasites? 

  • Anonymous

    There should be a local grass roots movement to support this guys store. He is located next to a freeway and boy would it peeve off those black protestors if non-blacks from outside of the area started shopping there in large numbers.

    • Anonymous

      I go out of my way to shop at stores run by Orientals. I miss the China towns of San Francisco and Oakland. 

      • Marcy Fleming

        You gotta to be kidding ! SF’s is sleazy enough but Oakland’s is a dump.

        • Anonymous

          Those who believe that economic deprivation causes crime must account for James Q. Wilson and Richard Herrnstein’s portrait of an urban community that has suffered severe poverty but little crime. During the 1960s, San Francisco’s Chinatown had the city’s lowest income, highest unemployment rate and highest proportion of families with incomes under $4,000 a year. Yet in 1965, the authors note, there were only five people of Chinese ancestry committed to prison in the entire state of California.http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n32_v10/ai_15716060/       

          • Marcy Fleming

            They may well be right but 1965 was almost half a century ago so we need more updated stats than that. There has been a huge increase in Asian populations here in SF and Oakland since LBJ’s
            1965 Immigration law. Chinese gangs have long been a big problem in SF and there are all sorts of Asian gangs in Oakland.
            Blacks are by and far away the most numerous of all criminals followed by Latins.
            Young Asians often have different values from their parents
            and sometimes for the worse.
            Indifferent Chinese landlords have dsetroyed neighborhoods by renting to Section 8 Blacks. The Blacks pay way below market rate rent and the landlords receive the huge difference in profit. If they are Chinese you can forget about any upkeep of the building beyond the minimum legal necessity and sometimes not even that.
            This model minority concept is true for some East Asians but far from all.

  • Anonymous

    La Raza loves Whites? Didn’t one of their leaders say he wanted all of us to die, the sooner the better?

  • Rocky Mountain

    He was running with the cash register under his arm?  Must’ve been a big man.

  • Anonymous

    And your point is that once out the door, robbers have the right to your property?

  • Anonymous

    Business is eminently rational.
    Situating your business in a majority black area carries a real and deadly risk – the risk of death or paralysis.Therefore factored in to the price of a business in a blak area is a ‘risk premium’ ie the business can be purchased at a discount – which is probably why Pak and many other Koreans opened businesses in black areas.
     Formerly men working hazardous occupations were paid ‘danger money’ in recognition of the fact.This practice, I believe, is now illegal.

    •  In the civilian world, perhaps, but the military is replete with flight pay, combat pay, hazardous duty pay, submarine duty pay, etc.

  • “Protest leaders say that won’t happen. Muhammad says there can be only one resolution: “That man needs to leave our community, because he is no longer welcome.”

    So just like that, blacks can demand that someone leave “their community” when they perceive they have been wronged? Why cannot Whites demand blacks leave our communities when we perceive we have been wronged by their actions against us?

    Another one way street I see….

  • Marcy Fleming

    I have tangled with John Engelman on several threads on AmRen. He says many absurd things as he is a New York Times liberal and Democrat Party apologist par excellence
    on every issue from Roosevelt to the present. He probably votes for Obama.
    Once in a blue moon he has written something sensible on Blacks. But on everything from Israel to tax cuts to Keynesian economics to our not so wonderful centers of Hire Education he’s simply awful. NPR to a T.

    • Anonymous

      I back up my assertions with facts that I document. You give me reading lists. If you understood what was in the books, you would be able to present the arguments using your own words. 

      • Marcy Fleming

        You used that line before and it didn’t work. Your assertions are rigged Establishment polls and I already told you the problem with those just based on experiences I and others have had with Gallup.
        I present the essentials in brief arguments but to get the full reasoning
        behind the arguments you have to read BOOKS.
        Why are you so scared of reading books ?
        Are you really telling me that many of my responses to have not been long enough ?
        You have never documented anything and I have specifically given rebuttals AND where to find the full documentation on every subject that you have brought up.
        When I write by necessity I can only use my own words, so your complaint here is a nonsequitur.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Thanks, Anon. Noam Chomsky and other leftists have made a career in focusing on greatly exaggerated numbers of ‘Indians’ allegedly wiped out by ‘genocide.’ One of the worst fakers here is really a white man, Ward Churchill, in Boulder. There were a very few million north of the Rio Grande at most, probably in the hundreds of thousands.
    Left-libs have got this inflated to 10 million to saddle us with white guilt
    for another ‘holocaust’ and come to think of it that’s what they did there too.
    Chomsky, being a Left Zionist, pushes this false Palestinian-indian analogy even though 95% of the Palestinians were never nomads.
    I’m not denyting that there were many US Government atrocities against Indians perpetrated by certain Union Generals after the War but then these people never had qualms about slaughtering whites during Sherman’s March.

  • Marcy Fleming

    There is no ‘average’ Oriental IQ, it varies greatly from Japanese to Chinese to Indians to Vietnamese, etc. Read Ralph Townsend’s 1932
    book on China titled Ways That Are Dark. It was such an indictment
    that Mao had it translated but then he killed 110 million people after he came to power.
    Townsend was a State Department Consul in China for many years and he thought the Japanese were very advanced and the Chinese weren’t.
    Later he was falsely charged in Roosevelt’s Communist inspired Sedition Trial in 1944.
    US companies are cutting back here because of our longstanding anti-business climate due to the New Deal policies that Engelman espouses.

    • Anonymous

      Since the election of Ronald Reagan the United States has been repealing the policies of the New Deal. Labor unions have gotten weaker. The minimum wage has lost ground to inflation. 

    • Sure, because all the welfare programs and regulatory bureaucracies that started during the FDR years disappeared after 1980.

      If inflation has weakened the minimum wage, then it means nothing, for the minimum wage is a price floor.  Five minutes with your nose in any econ text shows you the futility of price floors.  Either a price floor is below the quantity supplied-quantity demanded equilibrium, in which case the price floor might as well not be there, or it’s above the equilibrium, in which case you have a QD > QS in the labor market, ergo unemployment.

      Labor unions…different story.  The sort of work conducive to organized labor has been eliminated and/or outsourced, and the existing unions are mostly far left slush funds.  There, we can have a conversation.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Exactly ! As a fellow Californian I salute your perceptive comments.

  • Anonymous

    Our government gives substantial aid only to the nonwhites who go into business. 
    – Anon
       
    —————
     
    An assertion like that ought to be documented. 

  • Anonymous

    Their cultures always seemed static or stagnant to me until an outside influence changed them.  I’ll never understand the adulation given to them. I guess it’s because they’re ‘polite’ seeming to some people..?

    What they really are is mealymouthed and know how to ingratiate themselves to the right people.

  • Anonymous

    They have. The Japanese can manufacture practically anything we can better. The Chinese can manufacture it as good and cheaper. 
     
    When Japanese and Chinese move to the United States they usually outperform whites in the class room and on the job, while maintaining lower rates of crime and illegitimacy. 

    • Marcy Fleming

      They are copiers, not originators and the Japanese & Chinese vary widely from each other in race, culture and IQ.

      • Anonymous

        A copy is inferior to the original. 

      • Marcy Fleming

        Exactly my point.

  • Anonymous

    $100,000 will not finance a 50 year crack cocaine habit. 

  • Anonymous

    Jared Taylor is the editor of American Renaissance, and the owner of this website. Professor J. Philippe Rushton of the University of Western Ontario has spoken at American Renaissance conferences. 

  • Anonymous

    Here is what others have said:
     
    ———–
     
    A 60-page review of the scientific evidence, some based on state-of-the-art magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of brain size, has concluded that race differences in average IQ are largely genetic…
     
     East Asians average higher on IQ tests than Whites, both in the U. S. and in Asia, even though IQ tests were developed for use in the Euro-American culture. Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa…
     
    Brain Size Differences. Studies using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) find a correlation of brain size with IQ of about 0.40. Larger brains contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks…
      
    Trans-Racial Adoption Studies. Race differences in IQ remain following adoption by White middle class parents. East Asians grow to average higher IQs than Whites while Blacks score lower. 
    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx 
      

  • Anonymous

    Your experience may have been losing to Orientals in competitive endeavors because they were more intelligent. My experience has been that every Oriental I have ever known I have liked. I have never had any bad experiences with Orientals at all.
     
    Because both of us are limited by our experience, I like to back up my assertions with facts that I document.  

    • Marcy Fleming

      You have never backed up any of your assertions with anything but dubious polls. Most people have had plenty of bad experiences with Asians. Unless Anon was competing in the corner market business with Asians, your comment is an example of the ad hominem fallacy.

    • Anonymous

      You have never backed up any of your assertions with anything but dubious polls.   
      – Marcy Fleming
       
      ————
       
      Which “dubious polls” are you talking about? List them, so we can see if they are dubious or not. 
       
      Orientals tend to have higher IQs than whites. They also have lower rates of crime and illegitimacy. When substantiating those claims on American Renaissance I quote Jared Taylor, who owns and edits this website, and Professor J. Philippe Rushton of the University of Western Ontario, who has spoken at American Renaissance conferences.
       
      http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html 
       
      http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_Evolution_Behavior.pdf  
       
      According to an article posted on this website December 5, 2011, “Asian students have higher average SAT scores than any other group, including whites.”
      http://amren.com/news/2011/12/some_asians_col/ 
       
      Don’t give me another one of your reading lists. Just explain why Jared Taylor and Professor Rushton are mistaken.

    • Marcy Fleming

      WHY should I list all the dubious Establishment polls that YOU give us in lieu of argument ?
      And YES, I will continue to list BOOKS for the many readers who ARE intelligent and curious enough to read them.
      On my own empirical evidence I disagree totally with the blanket assertions that you claim come from two authors as Asians differ widely from each other in IQ and culture.
      And I’m sure that there are books that take issue with the assertions you claim the two authors make if it was even necessary to prove my point, which it isn’t.
      You can Cherry Pick all the dubious sources that you want
      but it doesn’t prove anything.
      And WHY should I even read your sources when you refuse to look at mine.
      But I don’t have to prove anything here as you are making the positive assertion and I have reasons to disbelieve your claims.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Amen ! As his latest nonresponse to me proves in spades.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Good for you ! He’s scared to read books with another view.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Great movie but the ending sucked.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Indeed, see the stock portfolios of Nader and Chomsky. HYPOCRITES !

  • Marcy Fleming

    Agreed.

  • Marcy Fleming

    Thanks,MAJ, you said it all and very well !

  • Marcy Fleming

    Let’s find a way to get started on this.