George Zimmerman: Prelude to a Shooting

Chris Francescani, Reuters, April 25, 2012

A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009.

{snip}

That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits. In early December, another source close to them told Reuters, the couple bought a pair of guns. George picked a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun, a popular, lightweight weapon.

By June 2011, Zimmerman’s attention had shifted from a loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol—a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.

{snip}

But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman’s past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting.

{snip}

The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather—the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.

A criminal justice student who aspired to become a judge, Zimmerman also concerned himself with the safety of his neighbors after a series of break-ins committed by young African-American men.

Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account.

“Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. I’m black, OK?” the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. “There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood,” she said. “That’s why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin.”

{snip}

George Michael Zimmerman was born in 1983 to Robert and Gladys Zimmerman, the third of four children. Robert Zimmerman Sr. was a U.S. Army veteran who served in Vietnam in 1970, and was stationed at Fort Myer in Arlington, Virginia, in 1975 with Gladys Mesa’s brother George. Zimmerman Sr. also served two tours in Korea, and spent the final 10 years of his 22-year military career in the Pentagon, working for the Department of Defense, a family member said.

{snip}

Gladys came to lead a small but growing Catholic Hispanic enclave within the All Saints Catholic Church parish in the late 1970s, where she was involved in the church’s outreach programs. Gladys would bring young George along with her on “home visits” to poor families, said a family friend, Teresa Post.

“It was part of their upbringing to know that there are people in need, people more in need than themselves,” said Post, a Peruvian immigrant who lived with the Zimmermans for a time.

Post recalls evening prayers before dinner in the ethnically diverse Zimmerman household, which included siblings Robert Jr., Grace, and Dawn. “It wasn’t only white or only Hispanic or only black—it was mixed,” she said.

Zimmerman’s maternal grandmother, Cristina, who had lived with the Zimmermans since 1978, worked as a babysitter for years during Zimmerman’s childhood. For several years she cared for two African-American girls who ate their meals at the Zimmerman house and went back and forth to school each day with the Zimmerman children.

“They were part of the household for years, until they were old enough to be on their own,” Post said.

{snip}

George grew up bilingual, and by age 10 he was often called to the Haydon Elementary School principal’s office to act as a translator between administrators and immigrant parents. At 14 he became obsessed with becoming a Marine, a relative said, joining the after-school ROTC program at Grace E. Metz Middle School and polishing his boots by night. At 15, he worked three part-time jobs—in a Mexican restaurant, for the rectory, and washing cars—on nights and weekends, to save up for a car.

{snip}

In 2004, Zimmerman partnered with an African-American friend and opened up an Allstate insurance satellite office, Donnelly said.

Then came 2005, and a series of troubles. Zimmerman’s business failed, he was arrested, and he broke off an engagement with a woman who filed a restraining order against him.

That July, Zimmerman was charged with resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer after shoving an undercover alcohol-control agent who was arresting an under-age friend of Zimmerman’s at a bar. He avoided conviction by agreeing to participate in a pre-trial diversion program that included anger-management classes.

In August, Zimmerman’s fiancee at the time, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman reciprocated with his own order on the same grounds, and both orders were granted. The relationship ended.

In 2007 he married Shellie Dean, a licensed cosmetologist, and in 2009 the couple rented a townhouse in the Retreat at Twin Lakes. Zimmerman had bounced from job to job for a couple of years, working at a car dealership and a mortgage company. At times, according to testimony from Shellie at a bond hearing for Zimmerman last week, the couple filed for unemployment benefits.

Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College in 2009, and in December 2011 he was permitted to participate in a school graduation ceremony, despite being a course credit shy of his associate’s degree in criminal justice. Zimmerman was completing that course credit when the shooting occurred.

{snip}

By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins. {snip}

At least eight burglaries were reported within Twin Lakes in the 14 months prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting, according to the Sanford Police Department. Yet in a series of interviews, Twin Lakes residents said dozens of reports of attempted break-ins and would-be burglars casing homes had created an atmosphere of growing fear in the neighborhood.

In several of the incidents, witnesses identified the suspects to police as young black men. Twin Lakes is about 50 percent white, with an African-American and Hispanic population of about 20 percent each, roughly similar to the surrounding city of Sanford, according to U.S. Census data.

One morning in July 2011, a black teenager walked up to Zimmerman’s front porch and stole a bicycle, neighbors told Reuters. A police report was taken, though the bicycle was not recovered.

But it was the August incursion into the home of Olivia Bertalan that really troubled the neighborhood, particularly Zimmerman. {snip}

On August 3, Bertalan was at home with her infant son while her husband, Michael, was at work. She watched from a downstairs window, she said, as two black men repeatedly rang her doorbell and then entered through a sliding door at the back of the house. She ran upstairs, locked herself inside the boy’s bedroom, and called a police dispatcher, whispering frantically.

“I said, ‘What am I supposed to do? I hear them coming up the stairs!’” she told Reuters. Bertalan tried to coo her crying child into silence and armed herself with a pair of rusty scissors.

Police arrived just as the burglars—who had been trying to disconnect the couple’s television—fled out a back door. Shellie Zimmerman saw a black male teen running through her backyard and reported it to police.

After police left Bertalan, George Zimmerman arrived at the front door in a shirt and tie, she said. He gave her his contact numbers on an index card and invited her to visit his wife if she ever felt unsafe. He returned later and gave her a stronger lock to bolster the sliding door that had been forced open.

“He was so mellow and calm, very helpful and very, very sweet,” she said last week. “We didn’t really know George at first, but after the break-in we talked to him on a daily basis. People were freaked out. It wasn’t just George calling police . . . we were calling police at least once a week.”

In September, a group of neighbors including Zimmerman approached the homeowners association with their concerns, she said. Zimmerman was asked to head up a new neighborhood watch. He agreed.

{snip}

Police had advised Bertalan to get a dog. She and her husband decided to move out instead, and left two days before the shooting. Zimmerman took the advice.

“He’d already had a mutt that he walked around the neighborhood every night—man, he loved that dog—but after that home invasion he also got a Rottweiler,” said Jorge Rodriguez, a friend and neighbor of the Zimmermans.

Around the same time, Zimmerman also gave Rodriguez and his wife, Audria, his contact information, so they could reach him day or night. Rodriguez showed the index card to Reuters. In neat cursive was a list of George and Shellie’s home number and cell phones, as well as their emails.

Less than two weeks later, another Twin Lakes home was burglarized, police reports show. Two weeks after that, a home under construction was vandalized.

The Retreat at Twin Lakes e-newsletter for February 2012 noted: “The Sanford PD has announced an increased patrol within our neighborhood . . . during peak crime hours.

“If you’ve been a victim of a crime in the community, after calling police, please contact our captain, George Zimmerman.”

{snip}

On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman placed a call to Sanford police after spotting a young black man he recognized peering into the windows of a neighbor’s empty home, according to several friends and neighbors.

“I don’t know what he’s doing. I don’t want to approach him, personally,” Zimmerman said in the call, which was recorded. The dispatcher advised him that a patrol car was on the way. By the time police arrived, according to the dispatch report, the suspect had fled.

On February 6, the home of another Twin Lakes resident, Tatiana Demeacis, was burglarized. Two roofers working directly across the street said they saw two African-American men lingering in the yard at the time of the break-in. A new laptop and some gold jewelry were stolen. One of the roofers called police the next day after spotting one of the suspects among a group of male teenagers, three black and one white, on bicycles.

Police found Demeacis’s laptop in the backpack of 18-year-old Emmanuel Burgess, police reports show, and charged him with dealing in stolen property. Burgess was the same man Zimmerman had spotted on February 2.

{snip}

Three days after Burgess was arrested, Zimmerman’s grandmother was hospitalized for an infection, and the following week his father was also admitted for a heart condition. Zimmerman spent a number of those nights on a hospital room couch.

Ten days after his father was hospitalized, Zimmerman noticed another young man in the neighborhood, acting in a way he found familiar, so he made another call to police.

“We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there’s a real suspicious guy,” Zimmerman said, as Trayvon Martin returned home from the store.

The last time Zimmerman had called police, to report Burgess, he followed protocol and waited for police to arrive. They were too late, and Burgess got away.

This time, Zimmerman was not so patient, and he disregarded police advice against pursuing Martin.

“These assholes,” he muttered in an aside, “they always get away.”

After the phone call ended, several minutes passed when the movements of Zimmerman and Martin remain a mystery.

Moments later, Martin lay dead with a bullet in his chest.

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  • 2573366

    A balanced piece. I’m shocked.  I find it ironic that (to me at least) Al Sharpton is the poster child for free-market capitalism. Where else but in America, could a semi-literate man achieve such financial success? He gives the market a product it wants. Race-baiting.

    • nBmnp

      Almost. It’s not true that Trayvan was “on the way home” – he would have reached home 30 minutes before the incident if he would have gone from the store straight home.

  • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

    Better late than never, I suppose.  But where was this a month or more ago?  It’s too late now for all the white victims of black hate crimes in response to the official and now discredited narrative.   I have no way of proving this, so it’s probably useless to say, but I bet everything I own that there has been some white person murdered at the hands of a black out of this kind of rage, and it’s all blood on the media’s hands.

    • Rocky Bass

       Those people were going to get victimized regardless, now the perpetrators have a rallying cry. Kinda like the RAF’s “Taly-Hoe”

    • Angry White Woman

      The mainstream media (MSM) did their dead-level best to turn the shooting of Trayvon Martin into a race war. From the very first reporting of a “white” man who shot a young, (always accented UNARMED) chubby-cheeked “boy” on the way home from the candy store, to editing Zimmerman’s call to 911, to the years outdated pictures of both Martin and Zimmerman, to the uncritical reporting of the braying of Al, Jesse, and the NBPP., to the liberal use of the words, “murder”, “slaying”, “attack”, “stalking” and so forth.  Now there have been several real attacks and beatings of white persons by blacks who simply swallowed the story fed to them by the media, hook, line and sinker, and are enraged by it. They are reacting violently and emotionally, as expected, and white people, totally uninvolved in any way what so ever are suffering for it. There needs to be a total shaking up of the media and their biases need to be laid bare, their policies revamped and their ranks thinned out to those who tell the unvarnished truth, regardless of whose feeling get hurt.

  • Hirschibold

    This article brings a lot of reality to bear on the situation. Unfortunately the black mob and the media who have been chumming the water for the last few weeks don’t care about reality and have proven themselves willfully capable of ignoring and contradicting it when it doesn’t suit their purposes. They still see Zimmerman as white, so what chance does Reuters have of putting the genie back in the bottle? Up will remain down and good will remain evil in order to fit the narrative, excuse black pathology, and either guarantee a wrongful conviction or a lot of riots. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/PlayingRootsBackwards James Briggs

    This story made me yawn a bunch of times. Tell me that good story again, the one about the White racist with his teeth filed into points who shot the little kid. Everybody liked that one a lot.

  • ncpride

    Too little, too late in my opinion, to try and show that maybe Zimmerman is not a monster. The media and race baiters have painted a picture of him as a black hating, racist predator who stalks black people to murder in cold blood, and they have pushed that image for so long, it’s firmly planted in black minds across this country. There is nothing they can do to un-do the massive damage they have done to him, not that they give a hoot anyway.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      It does make me wonder what the media is trying to do?  Don’t they see themselves whipping up the conditions for a series of race riots and in this particular election year?  Don’t they see that they themselves are stoking hatred?

  • sbuffalonative

    Just like the Jena Six lie, blacks and their apologists have written their narrative which the media were all too willing to embrace and promote.

    Far from offering a ‘nuanced portrait’ of events in this gated community, this article brings these issues into sharp relief; blacks were moving in and terrorizing the neighborhood. No one felt safe and roaming black males who appeared to be causing the most (if not all) problems were known to even the black residents.

    This article reads like a post-apocalyptic ‘Mad Max’ scenario; economic down turn, responsible people leave, irresponsible people fill the vacuum, chaos and crime ensues.

  • MikeofAges

    Still not so balanced. The article did not report the claims as to what actually happened. Particularly the allegation that Martin assaulted Zimmerman after Zimmerman retreated away from him. Maybe that’s not what really happened, but that is Zimmerman’s assertion.

    • Celestial_Time

      In this situation, Facts are much more germane to empathizing with a frustrated community—a community to which Zimmerman was a part of and trying to protect—than mere claims.

      • MikeofAges

         I wish I knew what you were talking about.

        • Celestial_Time

          Claims are what’s used when you don’t have Facts. This article wasn’t an attempt to cover the story. It was an attempt to show a factual account of how a man and community became increasingly frustrated with crime. It showed just how prevalent crime in that area was becoming. It showed a man that was much more concerned about his neighbors than the Sharpton crowd would have you believe. Surprisingly, it showed that Black Men seemed to be the ones actually causing the decline in safety in the neighborhood, not Zimmerman.

          This kind of reporting is a leap of epic proportions when it comes to the PC reporting of crimes when blacks are involved. It was all done with facts(police reports/multiple eyewitness accounts), and  without having to resort to simple accusations(claims).

          • MikeofAges

             But the article failed in the particular of describing what Zimmerman’s defense asseerted happened. Or what the alternative scenario was. It still hid the ultimate facts.

          • Celestial_Time

             Again, it didn’t fail to describe what’s been asserted, because it wasn’t intended to be a story that covered that particular scenario. The author even tells you this in the title.

            George Zimmerman: –> *Prelude* <– to a shooting

          • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

             Give up Celestial_Time, MikeofAges doesn’t get it.

          • MikeofAges

            I get it. The story provides information about the community. But not enough about the events.

            ” … several minutes passed when the movements of Zimmerman and Martin remain a mystery.
            Moments later, Martin lay dead with a bullet in his chest.”

            Isn’t there room in there to note the assertion that Trayvon Martin came out of the dark and assaulted George Zimmerman?

            This article is from Reuters, the European news agency. Considering its target audience, this may be the only information they  get about why the background of this event. The failure to recount the immediate events is a major hole in the story. I think it is deliberate.

          • MikeofAges

             It described what it described, but it was incomplete. In complete  by design, IMO.

          • Kurt Plummer

            Oh please.
            It bears -all- the hallmarks of Jewish Liberalist Writing.  Don’t you see how perfectly the agenda meshes to the emotions?
            Looking to excuse the ‘white hispanic’ among them with compassionate (awwwwh, the sick daddy -and- granny!) appeals to the reader about the _state of feeling_ in a universal paranoid sense that makes no never mind of the lax enforcement or the failure to report that LEADS to this.  Because that would be blaming the Jewish controlled media for their own agenda.
            The day whites are excused as blacks are, based on ‘how they felt up to the moment of the crime’ is the day when competitive emo-ness will rule the justice system.
            And we will truly be so weak as to lose everything to those fine persecution complex actors: the blacks.
            Zimmerman is a Jew, not a white.  That is why this much belated attempt to get him off in a way that ‘appeals to the black in all of us’ is being made in this particularly disgusting and vile manner.
            Zimmerman is a Hispanic, not a white.  If his own won’t come to his aid, neither should we.  This is _not_ our problem.  The day we let our hearts bleed for others outside our group is the day that we first became vulnerable to the same manipulations which RULE their higher brain functions.  Starting with the discoveries of the concentration camps in Germany, 70+ years ago.
            Let _logic as justice_ rule here.
            And whites will triumph because blacks will once again come acropper of their stupidity and know they were ‘pwned’.  By the simple truth:  They are savage criminals who attacked the wrong man.  And in beating him to the ground and beyond, one of their precious black boys got dead.
            Just like any other black can be brought low, regardless of their aggressive attitudes or their physique or their tendency to ambush. 

            One well aimed bullet later.

  • diversity_is_a_hate_crime

    Doesn’t the one drop rule make him a “black” Hispanic now, instead of a vile “white” one?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DFC73YYAKSHGIE32R4T3TFAEHI No

    QUOTE;  (Speaking of The Zim Man) At 15, he worked three part-time jobs—in a Mexican restaurant, for the rectory, and washing cars—on nights and weekends, to save up for a car.
    ………………………………….
    Let’s compare that to what Mr Skittles was doing at 15 . . . suspensions, drug sales, burglary and undergoing n-word-to-be training at the local gladiator academy in Miami.

    I continue to argue that while Zim Man is not 100% white, he is “whitish.”  He is certainly more white than a lot of race-mixing whites I see. 

    What is white?  Is it a culture or a skin pigmentation?  I say we fight for both . . . we fight for racial purity but we also fight for cultural homogeneity.  Of the two, the second is most important because eugenics and genetic engineering can fix the first.

    Once culture disappears, it’s gone forever.

    • The__Bobster

      Really? Cultures have been lost and reclaimed. DNA cannot be reclaimed, especially if it has been degraded to the point where nobody is qualified to be a genetic engineer or thinks that White DNA is worth restoring.

      It’s like saying that America is a proposition nation. Can you fill America with Somoolies and have it still be America?

      • MikeofAges

        Not sure cultures have been so often reclaimed. They sometimes have absorbed migrants and still survived, even grown. The answer to your question ,however, is “no”. People don’t think about this issue too often, but even the post-Civil War European immigrants are not yet 100 percent assimilated. I personally am descended from post-1870 immigrants, and I am well aware of that issue. To survive, European Americans of all stripes first have to admit that the concept of an  America as based on Manifest Destiny was flawed from day one. The idea required the permanent subjugation of a considerable black population and the conquest of an already-existing Spanish civilization  in Texas and California.

        European Americans have to make a decision about what part of North America they intend to claim as their North American homeland. Draw line a from the southwest corner of Pennsylvania  to the Golden Gate and you get the idea. It is harder to argue against this idea claiming than against the idea of claiming all of it.

        The Southeast quadrant, historical “Dixie” is the North American homeland of both blacks and Southern whites. To the west, Texas, the southwest desert and California below the Golden Gate. The problem with claiming all of this territory is that it has opened the northern tier to claims of an obligation to provide a homeland to non-Europeans from the south. Colonialism did the same thing to Europe.

        Our obligation to help mean helping people where they, not helping them by jeopardizing our ability to maintain our culture and economic engine.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

           “People don’t think about this issue too often, but even the post-Civil
          War European immigrants are not yet 100 percent assimilated. I
          personally am descended from post-1870 immigrants, and I am well aware
          of that issue.”

          What are people supposed to do, forget everything about their roots?  I would never expect that of anyone.  It is more the issue of allegiance.

        • The__Bobster

          Ah, you’re proving my point. Your DNA IS your culture. You change your DNA, you change your culture. The Germans were able to reclaim their culture after two world wars. The subsequent poisoning of their DNA will destroy it forever.

          • MikeofAges

             I was thinking of reclamation over a much longer arc of time on both ends, centuries or longer. But change the demographic too much and the culture will either fail or transmogrify. Everybody’s favorite B-movie word, “transmogrify”.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/DFC73YYAKSHGIE32R4T3TFAEHI No

        QUOTE:  It’s like saying that America is a proposition nation. Can you fill America with Somoolies and have it still be America?
        ………………………………………………………………….
        I don’t think I will see it in my lifetime.  But the day will come when we can take two blacks and produce an Aryan.  I have no doubt of that.  The day will also come when we can take two Aryans, produce a third and then clone him.

        Cultures, on the other hand, are never reclaimed.  I’m trying to think of an example where one has but I come up blank.  When you conquer a people like say, Aztecs, the descendants may hang on to a few cultural elements but they’re not really “Aztec” any longer.

        Now, you do raise a good pint.  What if “nobody is qualified to be a genetic engineer or thinks that White DNA is worth restoring?”

        Obviously a dead end for us.  But there again, it’s the culture that puts value on whiteness, racial purity, education and science.  A white child isn’t born appreciating the wonders of genetic engineering – someone has to teach him.

        Don’t get me wrong . . . I’m not advocating race mixing.  Zimmerman is not someone I would see cloned.  My point is that when race mixers do breed, it is better for us that the children are brought up to think and act white.

        It’s like a cotton plantaion where the overseer is half-white/half-black.  He will never be “white” but because he’s absorbed white culture, he is still useful to whites.

        • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

          I ran into a disturbing website a while back that had cartoons; science
          fiction, of a black scientist who creates white female “homeaids.”  He
          demonstrates how to break them in.  It’s disgusting and enraging.

          When we begin to think in terms of creating life and manipulating genetics, it is good to remember that a load of moral and ethical questions enter in.  How would you feel if Nigerian scientists started producing blonde females for use as sex slaves?  They’d have a patent on their method of course. 

          (Nigerian scientists – I know, but soon this is not going to be much different from heart surgery).

        • MikeofAges

           We’d be better off in a world where the steam engine and the telegraph were the most advanced technology around than in some future managed society in which human beings existed as mere products of technology.

          Sometimes I wish we could end up on a cloud looking down on the world’s future beyond our own lifetimes, kind of like the way Mr. Wilson, in the old “Dennis the Menace” cartoons, said he’d like to be able to “sit on [his] cloud” and observe the future life of Dennis Mitchell. Revenge is sweet, and “revenge is a dish best served cold”.

        • The__Bobster

          But the day will come when we can take two blacks and produce an Aryan.  I have no doubt of that. 
          ____________

          I suppose you believe in making silk purses out of sows’ ear, too. Me, I’d rather start with silk thread.

    • MrGJG

      Whatever Zimmerman is, white, black, or Hispanic, it doesn’t really matter. And that goes for everyone. In my mind there are only two kind of people; those who voted for Obama and those who didn’t.  Zimmerman, from all accounts, falls into the former faction. You reap what you sow Mr. Z. 

  • libertarian1234

    “……the story sheds new light on the man at the center of one of the most controversial homicide cases in America.”

    The only thing that makes this case controversial are the lies, duplicity and anti-white hatred displayed by blacks and the MSM.

    As Dershowitz admitted, this is an ordinary self-defense issue without even considering the stand your ground law.

    There never should have been an arrest.  The Florida prosecutor and the governor might not have verbally conspired to arrest and charge Zimmerman, but certainly Governor Scott’s appointment of an obvious radical was with tacit agreement that she would do whatever was necessary to prevent the pending black riots.

    Her actions,  however,  just might place herself in line for falsifying an affadavit, and, as Dershowitz said, she raised the bar of expectation so high the black mobs are probably going to riot due to the fact that the evidence will not support a conviction on anything, let alone murder two.

    And they will all feel like victims once more, because they could not get “justice for Trayvon” andwill feel compelled to riot.

    You know, ” no justice, no peace?”

    The ONLY victim in this case is Zimmerman.

    • Art

      “You know, ” no justice, no peace?”

      To that my retort is: No blacks, no crime. (Well, very little crime.)

      Art

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Hulsey/100002561657868 Michael Hulsey

    So many comments on that article stating “he should have just called the cops.”  It’s like they didn’t even read it.  He did call the cops.  Everyone in that neighborhood did.  Repeatedly.

    It didn’t stop blacks from pillaging and looting.

    Zimmerman however, did.  If only for a short time period.  If everyone stood up to this nonsense there wouldn’t be a massive “youth” crime problem.

    • libertarian1234

      Yes, he did call the cops in previous instances too, along with several other people, but the black perps were gone by the time the police got there.

      To those people who claim he shouldn’t have “followed” Martin,  let me say that as an appointed watchman, how could he not follow the movement of someone to see if they were breaking and entering if he did not keep them in sight?

      The lack of  logic used by some in this case is amazing.  If there is any advice about what shouldn’t have been done, shouldn’t they all center on the fact that the black thug SHOULD NOT have attacked the watchman, simply for monitoring his movements?   I mean that’s the reason he was shot, and deservedly so.

      A potential deadly assault,  bashing a person’s head onto the concrete,  is hardly justified, because someone was observing the movements of another person.

      The black perp was seen at 2 a.m. in the morning originally messing around the club house.  It’s my belief he was looking for another score to add to the jewelry he was caught with by school officials and was enraged that someone had the audacity to put a kink into his plans by keeping track of what he was up to.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Leon-Engle/1625710108 Wayne Leon Engle

      When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

  • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

    Not a lot of new or useful info here, though I was happy to see the comment thread still leaning mostly toward Zimmerman and the right of self/community defense.

  • anarchyst

    It is common for blacks to attack those who “diss” (disrespect) them.  According to most blacks, young master trayvon was “dissed” by being questioned by Mr. Zimmerman.  Young master trayvon’s “honor” was questioned, therefore (according to many blacks) he felt that he was justified in attacking Mr. Zimmerman in order to restore his “honor”.
    Violence is endemic in black DNA and cannot be “bred out”.  Blacks will always make excuses for their abherrant (and abhorrant) behavior. 
    Apartheid is a solution . . . the BEST solution . . .

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Leon-Engle/1625710108 Wayne Leon Engle

      I agree. But it didn’t work in South Africa because there weren’t enough Afrikaners and English-speaking Whites, in proportion to the number of natives, to make it work. You’ve got to have critical mass. The South did, until the federal government used its power to force integration down White Southerners’ throats.

  • anarchyst

    Mr. Zimmerman’s situation would not be covered by Florida’s “stand your ground” law and rightly so.  Mr. Zimmerman was on his back, being beaten by young master trayvon, and unable to flee.  He was unable to retreat and by law, used justifiable self defense to prevent his own demise.
    Young master trayvon picked the wrong person to attack . . .
    It is interesting to note how the anti-self-protection crowd is using the “stand your ground” law to criticize Mr. Zimmerman.  They have an ulterior motive in wanting to repeal this very necessary law.  They want to establish “criminal safety zones” as is the case around most school campuses today . . .

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wdIiT16LV4 Afrikanerhart

    So, Zimmerman’s father is a traitor to his race, partaking in the GENOCIDE of the white race. Zimmerman is a mixed breed which means that this is none of our business.  There are ONLY two groups in the world, pro-white & pro-white-genocide. Zimmerman is in the enemy camp.

    While I agree that miscegenation is never a good idea, this is not the time for that sort of “the hell with him” sentiment. Despite the fact that Zimmerman is a mestizo, I suport him because he is being used as a weapon against Whites by the left and the anti-White media as well as the case being used to attack self-defence/gun rights.  Sometimes you have to put aside your zeal and look at the bigger picture.

  • Detroit_WASP

    And the sad thing is….no one will read this.  The Adolf Zimmerman image has already been cemented in the minds of the average Joe and the rest is just white noise at this point.

    .  Quote:  “Police had advised Bertalan to get a dog. She and her husband decided to move out instead, and left two days before the shooting. Zimmerman took the advice.”

    LOL.  The other couple moved out.  That’s exactly what I said in the first place.  Zimmerman screwed up when he didn’t just move out.  Trying to “live among them” was his error.  
     

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Leon-Engle/1625710108 Wayne Leon Engle

    This is a superbly researched and written investigative article. I’m a retired newspaperman, and I know one when I see it. It puts so many things into perspective. It’s just sad that it wasn’t an American news organization, but a British one, which took the trouble to dig out all these significant facts. Guess the mainstream U.S. press wasn’t interested in anything that might spoil their scenario of “White Hispanic vigilante murders poor, unarmed African American youth.”

    Excuse me, I mean to say, “Youff.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Leon-Engle/1625710108 Wayne Leon Engle

    That’s true, but given the history which Reuters has provided us in this article — and which the mainstream media in this country deliberately ignored — if he DID pursue Martin, it’s entirely understandable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Leon-Engle/1625710108 Wayne Leon Engle

    The percentage of young blacks who behave this way is far, far higher than that of any other ethnic group. That’s not my opinion; that’s a fact.

  • MikeofAges

    The main point is, Zimmerman was trying to conform. He had a credible job and supported the idea of an orderly society. Upon further review, his wannabe cop thing is questionable on a personal level. He was pretty old to start that career and I would say  not highly suited to the job in other ways.

    Maybe his great misfortune was to be living in Florida. Never been there, but it often seems like a strange place. I live on the opposite coast, but I am not anti-Southern. Visited Virginia earlier this year and thought it was fantastic. If my numbers come up, we’ll move there in minute. LOL

  • Dave4088

    It’s about time the myths being promoted by the media are dispelled.  That this was done by Reuters, mainstream media outlet, is a bit surprising.  If media outlets simply reported the facts then they wouldn’t have such a horrible reputation. 

    • sbuffalonative

       A couple years ago, the editor of the Buffalo News wrote a self-important, smug editorial in which she stated that the purpose of a newspaper was ‘to give voice to the voiceless and power to the powerless’.

      The purpose of a newspaper (or any media reporting outlet) is to give us unbiased facts so we can make informed decisions.

      Unfortunately, most high-minded media outlets today believe they’re doing the work of the angels.

      • http://countenance.wordpress.com/ Question Diversity

         That’s because most of the airheads in J-school will tell you that they “want to make a difference, to change the world.”  Then again, a lot of young police trainees and rookie cops hand out that line — The difference is that most cops lose the starry-eyed nonsense when slapped with reality, most journalists don’t.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         That’s right, Christian angels.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Wow.  The first msm article that didn’t depict Zim as a racist, armed, vigilante and “self-appointed” watch captain hunting down helpless black children for extermination.

    The more we learn about Zim, the better he looks. 

    Meanwhile, innocent Whites are being beaten mercilessly by black mobs because of 

    hatred being incited by race hustlers and a media who insist this is a White-on-black killing, nevermind that Zim has Hispanic, Jewish and now black roots.  

    Is Zim now a White Black?

    Bon

    • Major

      “Is Zim now a White Black?”

      If so then he’s truly the “son” Obummer might have had, right? Not Saint Skittles.

  • ncpride

    I respectfully disagree. After all the rallies and marches to demand “justice for Trayvon”, the media frenzy for a month about this story and all the race baiters making it ten times worse, blacks have made up their minds about this guy….. facts didn’t matter to them then and they won’t now. This is about revenge to them, not justice and the truth. But that’s just my humble opinion. The real test will come if Zimmerman is aquitted, which is looking like he really should be.

  • BobWhitakerisokay

    Why are there “many, many, many more young black men who fall into that category” than, say, White or Asian young men?

    Do you consider racial profiling to be “racist” and wrong to use?

  • Celestial_Time

    “This is someone in a school writing a report, rumor as far as I’m concerned,”

    That’s what an attorney said in regard to the jewelry and screwdriver being found in his backpack. They don’t deny the graffiti on the locker which got him suspended, which is really odd, because the same school security that reported the graffiti is the same school security that wrote in a report about finding the jewelry and screwdriver when they were looking for the graffiti marker.

    Then again, we’re talking about black people. I guess I should have learned by now to never be too surprised at their ignorance and hypocrisy.

  • usapatriot1776

    I don’t like the way these articles tout his minority racial status as some sort of badge of honor. They seem to imply that if George was all white, he would be somehow more guilty of something.

    But it is the world we live in today, at least in the media. Sadly the media says this guy is ‘white’.

    But he clearly looks hispanic, and surprise surprise he is half hispanic, part black, and the rest jewish.

    Now why doesn’t the media mention he is jewish? But they are so quick to call him a ‘white guy’.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      Jewish is a religion and sometimes an ethnic group.  Come on, learn to think.

    • The__Bobster

      Because he isn’t?

  • MikeofAges

     He was a waanabe cop. He was a community college CJ major finishing his last credit. Reportedly, he hoped to become a sworn officer. I called him “not highly suited” for that career. That means not the same quality as the  ideal recruit.

    In answer to your question, the lengths he went to made him potentially subject to question. Not that anyone else in the community did much. Maybe they weren’t capable of doing anything.

    Sounds like there was a coterie of young criminals who saw that community as an easy target.

  • MikeofAges

     The white South Africans gave up primarily because they were ostracized outside of South Africa, formally and legally. South African athletes could not compete in international competition. Actors and entertainers were not allowed to work in the international industry. Businesses and individual business people could not participate in international business. Academic scientists and scholars could not participate internationally. Probably, authors could not publish their books internationally. Possibly, the sanctions even extended to working people, such as merchant seamen and to skilled workers who might have wanted to work abroad.

    • libertarian1234

      If they had it to do all over again, I imagine they would opt for apartheid and become an isolationist nation.

      It was the cold war then.  They could have played the West against the soviets and China and could have adapted to that type of existence.

      Almost anything would have been better than black rule.

      • MikeofAges

         BTW, South African citizens who left South Africa remained ostracized until they acquired new citizenship.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DFC73YYAKSHGIE32R4T3TFAEHI No

    My point though, is that modern science puts us far ahead of those cultures you mention. 

    Also, please note that those cultures did not fall because of a “massive influx of inferior genes.”  There’s no evidence that Romans were race mixing more in the 5th century AD than they were 800 years earlier.  

    Cultures fall because of external forces.  They’re unable to adapt to invasion . . . drought . . . war . . . economic collapse, etc.

    • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

      Race mixing was not the reason for the fall of Rome, but the presence of too many diverse and conflicting groups was one of the major causes.   Genetic disorders due to lead poisoning was another; filling the military with mercenaries and then handing over generalship to ethnic outsiders (German) was yet another cause.  But the advent of Christianity was another and the chief one that Gibbon cites in his classic tome, “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. ”

      If you want to discuss any issue regarding Western history and destiny reading history is a must and Gibbon ought to be the first any serious person would read.

    • The__Bobster

      Egypt fell due to mixing with the Nubians.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Darius-Jackson/100003705849906 Darius Jackson

        I thought the Nubians built the pyramids! And the Flyin’ Ships!

  • Anon12

    Looks like Trayvon’s sister if he had one.

    The most “beautiful” woman in the world, they try to tell us..

    http://todayentertainment.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/25/11387323-beyonce-named-peoples-worlds-most-beautiful-woman?lite

    • Rocky Bass

       There are “worse” looking but she is hardly the “most beautiful”.

  • VildanZ

    I and many of you should have realized by now that those “creatures” are usually the most racist ones. They always whine about racism and discrimination, yet they are being far more racist. Nobody says anything about their racist behaviour, they accept it and think of it as punishment for the “evil” the white race has done. Slavery, for example, is something they never experienced themselves, but still they always mention that to defend their behaviour. I myself am a Serbian/Bosnian, a Slav, which is the origin of the world “slave”. I never in my life have heard any Slavish person say anything about slavery. Jews are also the same. They also don´t mention the discrimination and slavery they experienced.
    Blacks simply don´t seem to have any kind of honor or integtrity (period).

    • ncpride

      Wow, really? Jews don’t mention the discrimination and slavery they experienced? Where in the world have you been? They use it to their advantage every chance they get. Visit any History class in America and you would walk away thinking that blacks and Jews were the only groups of people in the world to experience any kind of hardship, or discrimination.

      • The__Bobster

        They seldom mention the slavery part, just six thousand years of suffering.

        • Art

          “They seldom mention the slavery part, just six thousand years of suffering”

          Not totally innocent ‘victims’ I can assure you. Read “When Victims Rule”, a massive 2040 page ebook* to get a very enlightening education on this sensitive subject.

          Art

          *http://www.europeanamericansunited.org/school1/History/victimsprint.pdf

      • VildanZ

        I know. I thought people here don´t speak that badly about jews, so I didn´t mention anything about all the conspiracies (Hollywood, Media, 6,000,000 Lie, etc) ;)

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     Remember too, it wasn’t police advice, it was a 911 dispatcher.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     Hey is for horses.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YUVPC2JRPOC633PRERSQ5BDGMQ Oilspot

    Our animal shelters here in Fl are flooded with pits and pit mixes.  These people have no sense of honor, yes honor.  To own a pet like a dog is to pledge to take care of the animal, to feed them, to provide health care and to love them as they will you.  But beasts are among us and these beasts walk on two legs.  The American pit is the choice of those cretins that wish to turn a dog into a marauder, a danger to other animals and humans. We do have laws and will put them into jail but while their evil, black hearts sit in prison, more are created each day. They are a black, evil race that can’t even show mercy to a defenseless animal.

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      #1 Dog in shelters in So Cal is the pit bull.  What INFURIATES me is that the jerks that own these dogs (until they tire of them or the dog loses in the ring) refuse to spay or neuter them — yet there is a constant campaign aimed at White communities — on bill boards, radio announcements on English language stations —   to spay and neuter our pets.

      I saw a news report last night with video out of Camden New Jersey about dogs being dumped out of cars, along with trash, by their owners.

      Cameras Catch People Dumping Trash, Dogs in Camden New Jersey

      http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=8632435

      Bon

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

    I agree and MikeofAges, you are wrong for calling Zim a wannabe cop.  His father was a judge, it makes sense that other members of the family would gravitate to law enforcement careers and so what about his age?  He did everything responsibly right up to restraining himself from pulling his gun until he was actually being beaten.  He was chosen as captain of a badly needed NW in his community.  You’re trying too hard to find faults with him and making lots of assumptions in doing it.

    • MikeofAges

      George Zimmerman’s lineage has nothing to do with his individual fitness to serve in law enforcement. I’m just saying, my impression is that it was not as high as you would hope for. Not lacking, but not that high either.

      I believe that once he was jumped by Trayvon Martin, he still showed restraint, letting Martin whack on him in the hope that help would arrive. Only when Martin saw Zimmerman’s gun and threatened to disarm him and kill him, and then took actual steps to carry out the threat did Zimmerman defend himself. That’s Zimmerman’s claim, and I believe it. But it is possible that the story is not totally accurate. I’m 3,000 miles away. How do I know?

      It’s a sad story. But I have a pretty good idea what justice for Trayvon Martin would have been. If he’d be able to go to an all-boys day school where the students wore black pants, dark shoes, a white shirt and a black tie and the teachers largely had been former athletes or people who had spent enough time in a gym to represent a physical presence as well as mental one, he would be alive today.

      There are plenty of college graduates who would take the job, but you won’t find them coming out the education curriculum. You don’t need an education degree to teach high school subjects.

      When you send kids to a secondary school that looks like “Mad Max” or the bar scene in “Star Wars”, what do you expect?

      Maybe it works out to best interest of the teacher’s unions and their members. But it’s not in the best interest of most of the kids. That’s written in blood, believe me.

      • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

         Mike, you’re saying things and making assertions that aren’t necessarily so.  Like the high school teacher qualification thing.  It varies from state to state.  In California for example, you need a four year degree in education and then a second degree in your subject(s).  It’s much looser in other places, but the point is that it is not the same.

        If you have such a strong opinion about whether Zimmerman should have been a candidate for law enforcement work, you should say what makes your own opinion so well qualified.  Are you in law enforcement?  Tell us why your opinion supersedes ours.

        Other than that, that paragraph doesn’t make much sense as it is written. 

        The shorter overall view IMHO is that if not for the pervasive “culture of arrogance” among black youth Martin would be alive today.

      • MikeofAges

        Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight:
         
        Opinions are opinions.  My opinion doesn’t have to, in your mind, supersede yours. But my opinions are based on a lot of thinking and observation carried out over a long period time. This a forum. No one can possibly explain every possible element of the background of every opinion they express. I don’t have to be in law enforcement to hold an opinion about who might be the best person to work in law enforcement.

        My opinion  as to the fitness of George Zimmerman to work in law enforcement is based on the idea, first of all that if, at his age, he is not already working as a sworn officer or deputy that fact, itself, raises questions about his drive and caliber. Secondly, he only recently received a two-year degree. Same issue. Then there are other elements of instability in his background, along with possible anger management issues and lack of a superior physique. No, he was not top material. NIMO.

        As to teachers, many of the people whom I would like to see in the job as I described it might take it, but I do not believe many would want to sit through the education curriculum in order to qualify for it. A college degree should be enough for teaching.

        In case you failed to notice, the school situation I described, an all-boys school with a dress code and a faculty capable of maintaining a physical as well as mental presence is potential cure for the “culture of arrogance” you describe. Not the only possible one. If you have a different opinion, you can say so too.

        Nothing new under the sun, you might want to know. These troublemaking black kids of today are  not a lot different from the “James Dean youth” of the 1950s or the “cornerboys” of the Studs Lonigan era. The type is known.

        These are kids from the bowels of the American lower middle class, usually with a bombastic, but ultimately ineffectual father. Or no father present at all.

        As youths, they are verbally glib, both “fast” socially and often more athletic than brighter peers, racially and ethnically biased, with violent tendencies, a serious knack for self destruction, and a willingness to adopt troubled older males as their role models. As adults, they very often amount to not a lot.

        I’m willing to carry on discussions, but I think you have some trouble understanding what people are saying. Sorry, but that’s how I see it.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     I don’t think we don’t understand that, but this case is being used to strip whites of the ability to lawfully defend himself and Zim is being treated like a white by the black community.  Zimmerman himself is probably reviewing his past “good works” these days.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YUVPC2JRPOC633PRERSQ5BDGMQ Oilspot

    It is well known that evil, black-hearted people that abuse a defenseless animal are but a short step away from doing same to a human.  As a matter of fact, Justice shared the fate of being burned alive as the 13 yr old missouri white boy:  vicious, beastial blacks set the boy and the dog on fire for two reasons.  Reason one:  Blacks are the product of an evil culture that causes misery world-wide.  Reason two:  All controls have been lifted from blacks and they know it; where once they would have been horse-whipped then hung for their crime, they are now given wealth and recognition for their cruelties.

  • Formerly_Known_as_Whiteplight

     You don’t understand that genetic codes can now be manipulated in many ways.  Scientist know more and more every day about how to change many details.  Making the changes the identify race and intelligence is not that hard.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    There also this HORRIBLE story out of Newark NJ about an abused dog named Patrick that was starved, thrown in a garbage bag and tossed down a trash shoot.

    Be warned that that the picture of the dog in the article (I won’t post it) after he was found is horrific. 

    AND at least the “person” that did this was caught  (unfortunately, the punishment is FAR too lenient):

    “The dog’s owner has been identified as one Ms. Kisha Curtis, 28, of Newark, who has been charged with four counts of animal cruelty; two counts of abandonment, and two counts of failure to provide sustenance to the dog. If she’s convicted, she would face up to six months in jail, or a $1,000 fine with community service.” 

    http://matt-rock.newsvine.com/_news/2011/03/28/6361887-meet-patrick-the-luckiest-dog-in-the-world

    Bon

  • RegisterToPost

    Excellent article, one that will sadly never see the light of day in the race-baiting American MSM.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wayne-Leon-Engle/1625710108 Wayne Leon Engle

    I have a link to American Renaissance on my website, http://www.oldcorporal.com , and I posted a “Bulletin” on a story I had written previously about the Zimmerman case, letting readers know they could find the above story on AmRen. Hope a lot of them took advantage of it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3527B2BHQ3YXOKPLNC2P2ARS7Q ben k

    i think it’s imperative that people like us comment on these articles when they accidentally (lol) make it to the main stream media,  or send Reuters an email commending them for honest journalism.. for some insane reason TRUTH has become an over the counter “product”,  we have to start commending (in droves) the main stream media when they get it right.   

  • Major

    All that much sweeter if the pressure to hang him by the blacks succeeds. All his “mentoring” will have been for naught. Which is the end result of any pro bono work on their behalf. It doesn’t look like he’ll score any points at all with his past, loving blacks.