2 Cops Among 58 Shot in Weekend Violence; Teen and 56-Year-Old Bystander Killed

Jonathan Dienst et al., NBC New York, September 6, 2011

Three people were killed and two police officers were wounded in a shooting a few blocks from the annual West Indian Day Parade in Brooklyn, capping a violent holiday weekend in which nearly 60 people were injured by gunfire.

Updated statistics obtained by NBC New York on Tuesday show that at least 58 people were shot between midnight Friday and midnight Monday. That includes 10 on Saturday, 33 on Sunday and 15 on Monday. Preliminary numbers indicate as many as 10 were killed.

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Earlier Monday, as revelers filled the streets in colorful costumes during the parade, separate gun violence brought the festivities to a stop in spots, scattering the panicked crowd. Police said four people were shot and wounded along the parade route and a 15-year-old boy was grazed by a bullet nearby.

A city councilman was briefly detained after getting into a confrontation with police after the parade.

The violent holiday weekend included a Sunday shooting in the Bronx in which eight people, including children, were wounded.

Four other people were shot in the East Flatbush section of Brooklyn early Monday, including a 17-year-old boy who died.

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The annual Labor Day parade celebrates the culture of the Caribbean islands and is one of the city’s largest outdoors events.

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West Indian Parade revelers.

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  • NYC Resident

    This is par for the course here. Puerto Rican day festival ditto, and every other non-White gathering. Just take a look at that photo above. It’s a celebration of tribalism – jungle tribalism. Is this a culture? And if it is, is it worth celebrating? I’d better watch myself though. I’m sure the hate crime units monitor websites like Amren. In a place like here, NYC, it is almost assumed that if you’re White you’re a liberal. I’ve spoken to liberals and most of them are oblivious to things like racial differences. They sometimes talk to me thinking that I’m one of them. I couldn’t imagine telling them that I’m not. If I told any one of them that I make comments on Amren, they’d probably call the police on me.

  • Anonymous

    I understand Michael Bloomberg blamed “illegal guns” for the shootings. Darned if they don’t have a mind of their own, those illegal guns.

  • RJS

    The absolute eyesores that are these “West Indian Parade revelers” make me want to vomit.

  • Anonymous

    “Give us your tired, poor and huddled masses”. And while your at it your, “violent, stupid, lazy and carriers of infectious diseases as well.

    Compliments of Ted Kennedy and his political friends,- circa 1965.

  • Urban Teacher

    Politicians Step Out for West Indian Day Parade

    “Thank you for sharing your culture, your language, your music, your food, your diversity,” said Governor Andrew Cuomo.

    http://goo.gl/vLUOD

  • O’Malley

    Yeh, that is what I want my little girl seeing in the streets. The police in this country need to start using more force to herd the cattle back into the pen and the citizens of this country need to get used to the idea of it or we are all doomed.

  • Lucky Fiberals

    “The annual Labor Day parade celebrates the culture of the Caribbean islands and is one of the city’s largest outdoors events.”

    Ahh yes…another “cultural” celebration. Another reason that diversity is our strength. Nobody here is surprised at this. One more reason to avoid our nations major sewers/cities.

  • margaret

    Here is the latest headline

    2 Cops Among 67 Shot in Weekend Violence; Teen and 56-Year-Old Bystander Killed. At least 10 killed.

    Karma is good. New York is the national headquarters of White hating, America hating liberals.

  • Tom

    The “culture of the Caribbean islands”= 58 shot. That sounds about right. If Obama loses in 2012, I foresee a sudden shortage of flat screen tvs…

  • Jeddermann.

    These people from the islands just enrich our society so. They have such good taste for color and the manner of their dress impresses me so. Good dancers and know how to move their bodies. Steel drums sound good too. That sound is so unique. We should all feel so fortunate.

  • Anonymous

    “Give us your tired, poor and huddled masses”. And while your at it your, “violent, stupid, lazy and carriers of infectious diseases as well.

    Last night’s Seinfeld re run had his Statue of Liberty monologue.

    “Wretched refuse? Is that what we want? I guess we do, just load any degenerate, depraved, disgusting person you don’t want on a boat and send them over here.”

  • Anonymous

    There are always problems at the West Indian parade. Bloomberg has been ranting about “gun violence”. Here in NYC, it’s black and hispanic violence, period. Just take a look at the photo above and there’s nothing else you need to know about West Indians.

  • Hank Reardon

    I was reading the comments on the original article site. I thought I was reading Amren comments!

  • Sureesh

    This is par for the course here. Puerto Rican day festival ditto, and every other non-White gathering.

    Not true that all non-White groups are like this. If you attend the annual India Day Festivities in Fremont, CA, it is just as safe as a German or Irish festival. Also the same with a Chinese New Year Parade or Korean-American gatherings. I feel deeply offended that you’re lumping all non-whites in the same category.

  • Anonymous

    11 — Anonymous wrote at 7:46 PM on September 6:

    “Give us your tired, poor and huddled masses”. And while your at it your, “violent, stupid, lazy and carriers of infectious diseases as well.

    Last night’s Seinfeld re run had his Statue of Liberty monologue.

    “Wretched refuse? Is that what we want? I guess we do, just load any degenerate, depraved, disgusting person you don’t want on a boat and send them over here.”

    Yes, the immigration enthusiasts love to quote those widely-misunderstood lines from the Statue of Liberty — which were written NOT by some president or founding father or even an important philosopher, but rather by a 19th C. socialist poetess named Emma Lazarus. These words carry no official authority; they are merely the overheated, we-are-the-world hyperbole of yet another Marxoid internationalist. These oft-quoted words, far from being “inherently, fundamentally American,” are in fact fundamentally UN-American. ANTI-American.

    The Canadian conserva-blogger Kathy Shaidle, of http://www.fivefeetoffury.com, sums up the situation very well when she says:

    “A bad poem on an old French statue is NOT an immigration policy.”

  • Anonymous

    To poster #1. It does seem like to be white in NYC is to be a liberal, but know that there are many hidden conservatives here. We just keep our mouths shut to keep our jobs! We vote Tea Party on election days and try to do our part in small ways.

  • dying breed

    Multiple shootings and a couple deaths are not news.

    What the MSM will be cramming down our collective gullet will be the horrible injustice bestowed upon Councilman Jumaane Williams and his sidekick Director of Community Affairs ( Insert some AA title here ) Kirsten John Foy. These poor fellas were detained after disregarding police barricades, becoming belligerent and ultimately causing a police captain to be assaulted. They claim this all happened because they are black and one of them has dreadlocks.

    Now that’s news folks.

  • Anonymous

    #1, NYC Resident, stated:

    “I’ve spoken to liberals and most of them are oblivious to things like racial differences.”

    Hold on for a moment; don’t be so sure. Just as Mr. Taylor has stated time and again, it is enough to parrot the accepted liberal orthodoxy; you really aren’t required to actually do anything. I’m sure the liberals you’ve spoken to don’t send their children to schools with other kids who have Mom’s who look like the, oh-so beautiful (gasp) ones in this picture.

  • Northern Thunder

    How can one look at the picture accompanying the article and claim racial equality exists? Other than their bipedalism I see no similarities.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t this typical of any gathering of brown people? Whether at back yard bar-b-cues, England’s Notting Hill Carnival, Puerto Rican day festival, Calle Ocho Cuban festival in Miami, black Bike Week, birthday or graduation parties, you name it, shootings, stabbings, robberies and violence of all kinds are sure to occur. And how sick are our politicians and media for propping up and trying to legitimatize these horrors. They’re as sick as the people committing these crimes. Oh, they’re just celebrating their “culture”. Yeah, a culture of murder and mayhem. Well, we don’t buy it. Unfortunately, most are funded by our tax dollars. Any wonder the average American who doesn’t buy into this mess hates and distrusts their government and the media?

    On a different note, I hope the wounded police officers recover fully. They don’t pay them enough to deal with this stuff.

  • interesting times

    Can’t blame them for prefering white women.

  • Walt

    Why is it, in any discussion of the 1965 Immigration Act, the inititor of, and driving force behind, this nation breaker of an act is seldom mentioned. That close to treasonous individual was the late comunist Emmanuel Cellar, congressman from NYC.

    Return to the articles that appeared subsequent to the act’s passage in National Review and Human Events for 1965. Cellar made it clear that its primary goal was to permit unrestricted immigration of eastern european Jewry, particularly from the Soviet Union, into the US.

    Teddy boy Kennedy was involved only to insure that the new restrictions on the immigration of western european whites exempted the Irish.

  • Anonymous

    @ Sureesh:

    Please try to not be offended by the term “brown people”. When I use this, it is also a time saving device so I do not have to name all the categories of brown people that make up most of the crime and violence in this country. Most people who comment on this site are intelligent enough to know who they are, and who they are not. I know that Indian-Americans and Asian-Americans are generally peaceful people. I also want to add that I enjoy reading your comments. That is one of the things I like about AmRen, they welcome respectfully written, intelligent commentary that welcomes people’s different perspectives.

  • Anon

    It’s understandable that in Brazil for instance politicians flock into Carnival parades like bugs into lamp posts. After all, democracy being what it is, there they can sow uncountable votes for their next bizarre elections. What amazes me is why do American politicians need to do the same for a tiny minority of basically foreign people? What do they gain from this? As for the violence it is always a possibility in Carnival parades: lots of “disenfranchised” Blacks, lots of silly tourists and lots of alcohol. The same disgrace everywhere.

  • Can4Amren

    “Not true that all non-White groups are like this. If you attend the annual India Day Festivities in Fremont, CA, it is just as safe as a German or Irish festival. Also the same with a Chinese New Year Parade or Korean-American gatherings. I feel deeply offended that you’re lumping all non-whites in the same category.”

    While it is true that not all non-White groups are as violent and mindless as blacks, it doesn’t change the fact that they are a completely foreign and alien culture which us Whites cannot connect to on any deeper or any significant level. India Day festivities in FREMONT, CA? Sorry (actually no, I’m not!) Sureesh, but as a White, native born Canadian I have no desire to be displaced by peaceful Indians or Chinese any more that I do by violent blacks. Whites, unlike blacks or Indians, are a people who are denied a country of their own. If you find this to be “deeply offensive” then there is nothing stopping you from purchasing a one way ticket to the Indian sub-continent. (Assuming you are not already there.) I assure you that you won’t be missed.

  • Anonymous

    Curious how the venerated New York Times hasn’t done a study on changes in violent crime incidences during and immediately after the various ethnic/cultural parades. Could reveal some diversity. Might even be a public service to those wishing to avoid assault or worse.

  • NYC Resident

    18 — Anonymous wrote at 10:15 PM on September 6:

    #1, NYC Resident, stated:

    “I’ve spoken to liberals and most of them are oblivious to things like racial differences.”

    Hold on for a moment; don’t be so sure. Just as Mr. Taylor has stated time and again, it is enough to parrot the accepted liberal orthodoxy; you really aren’t required to actually do anything. I’m sure the liberals you’ve spoken to don’t send their children to schools with other kids who have Mom’s who look like the, oh-so beautiful (gasp) ones in this picture.

    **************

    Well most of them don’t – if they can afford it. Some do however, and their daughters – if they have one – are usually dating some Black guy out of a sense of White guilt. I would say that one out of about 7 or 8 White girls here who have boyfriends date a non-White, and that’s about 15%, which is about 4 times the national average of 3.5%. That is my understanding.

  • Anonymous

    It looks like a very poor imitation of the Carnival in Rio, Brazil. I have nothing against Brazilians in Brazil doing their carnival, but I question whether this type of parade is really in line with West Indian culture.

  • Anonymous

    #5, U .T. –

    To Cuomo & the dead hand of Ted Kennedy which is strangling my people, destroying my country and my children’s future, and to all their ilk:

    “Damn you for destroying our culture, our language, our music, our food, and our unity. ”

  • Epiales

    Perhaps New York City should have followed London’s example and dedicated 6000 police officers for the festivities.

  • Nick

    Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words. The photograph of the “cultural celebration” left me speechless.

    Also, at #14/Sureesh, you’re quite right. Lumping all non-European cultures together is mistake that racially conscious whites often make. Not all non-Europeans are the same. Asians are not blacks, and do not have the social pathologies that the average AmRen reader (correctly) associates with blacks.

  • Anonymous

    3 – “The absolute eyesores that are these “West Indian Parade revelers” make me want to vomit.”

    EYE BLEACH! EYE BLEACH! For God’s sake! Get me some EYE BLEACH!!!!

  • Anonymous

    At the recent Notting Hill Carnival in London ( a black event) there were 254 arrests for violence and criminal damage. This is slightly less than usual so the BBC -the organ of the liberal left, reported that it had all gone off peacefully.The events in Brooklyn weren’t reported here in UK at all.

  • Anonymous

    I heard Bloombergs reaction to the shootings. He was “livid” according to the news source. He blamed illegal guns for the violence and called for the federal government to do something about it. I can understand the anger at this senseless violence but something tells me that his proposition will not effect the criminals commiting these crimes.

    Bloomberg is most likely am anti-gun politician. What he does not understand is that the guns are not the ones commiting the murders and mayhem. Its the people who operate the guns. It is my opinion that the laws he proposes will make it even more difficult to obtain a firearm or a permit and will not create less violence because the people who are committing these atrocities are not concerned with the law. What he proposes is going to have an impact on law abiding people and no effect on the people who choose to shoot someone over a perceived slight. In the end, he is going to make things worse for the people of NYC because the criminals are not concerned with abiding by the current gun laws and penalties.

    As far as what can be done? The problem lies with the people themselves. They are the ones who have to have respect for life and the law. Maybe stiffer sentences for illegal gun offences? But dont punish the law abiding people because of others who cannot control themselves or respect the law.

  • Matt from NYC

    #16 Anonymous: “…but know that there are many hidden conservatives here. We just keep our mouths shut to keep our jobs!”

    Though I certainly keep the “race realism” talk toned down on the job, I always speak my mind on the subject when presented the opportunity. (Granted, typically very delicately.)

    But when it comes to your standard-issue NYC liberal [who is in no position to get me canned], let me tell you what a distinct pleasure it is to speak as directly as I wish to them on matters of race, “diversity”, etc…and watch the horror spread across their faces as they descend into a “racist!”-squealing hot mess of indignant confusion.

    Long before Manhattan Mini-storage’s signs about “Republicans” being “in the closet”, or Weissberg’s “White Nationalists As The New Queers”, I used to liken my situation to what I imagined life to have been like for homosexuals prior to the 60’s/70’s cultural radicalization–i.e., this strange dance of furtive glances, oblique references, and code-wording in an effort to feel out a possible ally.

    Doormen, [former] girlfriends, barbers, coworkers, in-laws, guys behind the deli counter, etc.–it’s been surprising how many people are of the same mind here (and it’s not just the “white males” either).

  • Anonymous

    15 — Anonymous wrote at 9:40 PM on September 6:

    11 — Anonymous wrote at 7:46 PM on September 6:

    “Give us your tired, poor and huddled masses”. And while your at it your, “violent, stupid, lazy and carriers of infectious diseases as well.

    Last night’s Seinfeld re run had his Statue of Liberty monologue.

    “Wretched refuse? Is that what we want? I guess we do, just load any degenerate, depraved, disgusting person you don’t want on a boat and send them over here.”

    Yes, the immigration enthusiasts love to quote those widely-misunderstood lines from the Statue of Liberty — which were written NOT by some president or founding father or even an important philosopher, but rather by a 19th C. socialist poetess named Emma Lazarus. These words carry no official authority; they are merely the overheated, we-are-the-world hyperbole of yet another Marxoid internationalist. These oft-quoted words, far from being “inherently, fundamentally American,” are in fact fundamentally UN-American. ANTI-American.

    The Canadian conserva-blogger Kathy Shaidle, of http://www.fivefeetoffury.com, sums up the situation very well when she says:

    “A bad poem on an old French statue is NOT an immigration policy.”

    ——————————-

    You are right. I am sick of people citing that stupid poem as “proving” America is for all these 3rd world hordes. Even the stupid neocon talk show hosts quote that poem as if it means to bring in every “huddled mass” they can find.

  • Anonymous

    Poster 30, exactly. Neocons like Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Charles Krauthammer, Billy Kristol. Who use their wealth to get as far away from the 3rd worlders they insist will become just like them if they get a tax cut or some other ridiculous conservative solution. Love it when they rant about the wonders of school choice or school vouchers. I wonder if 500 “students” from Hempstead arrived at the Hannity kids schools yesterday, waving around their school vouchers, if his kids would be in school today!! To anyone who calls in to his show…please ask this question.

  • Deirdre

    Only 2 cops shot out of 67 – is that cause to celebrate? This is an old story in NY, everyone knows that these and Puerto Rican, Dominican parades are always violent events that the media gushes about “enriching” us with. So disgusting. Another shock is what the place looks like when the parades are over. It looks like Hurricane Katrina hit, compared to The Day After the much larger St. Patrick’s Day parade in which most attendees use the public receptacles on every corner to put their garbage in.

  • Andrew

    The same thing happened in Toronto at a similar festival about a month ago.

  • Anonymous

    “Poster 30, exactly. Neocons like Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Charles Krauthammer, Billy Kristol. ”

    They are not Neocons they are traitors, plain and simple. However you left out the biggest and most influential of them all Rush Limbaugh. Between him and his friend Cheney they have more draft deferments than than everyone I know combined. What is funny they are for absolutely every war, including Vietnam. What a bunch of cowards!

  • Anonymous

    Bloomberg is most likely am anti-gun politician.

    …yes he has armed bodyguards, like the rest of them.

    He calls for illegal guns to be conviscated and more restrictions.. yet refuses to prosecute/enforce immigration laws. if we can’t protect our borders, how do we expect to protect illegal gun shipments even IF the we had nation wide gun control. the UK has it and their violent criminal rate is just as bad as ours- and.. its the exact same ethnic group that causes it, the same group that Cumo and Bloomberg were cooing about ‘enriching’ us. This ‘enriching us with diversity’ … I wonder if the politicians saying it and the reporters writing it up realize what a sick joke it’s become?/

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know why the media acts surprised about the mayhem at the West Indian Day parade. This occurs every year. Cops are ordered to overlook quality of life offenses such as disorderly conduct, drinking and urinating in public and other offenses not tolerated in a law abiding society. I believe the reason for this is because the city government and the police department are terrified of the backlash from the partygoers if such enforcement were to take place. For those of you not fron NY, try walking down 5th Ave with an open beer on St. Patricks Day. You would certainly experience a different levels of enforcement from the NYPD.

    I believe that if the city government is so concerned with the level of violence and lawlessness, the parade should be cancelled or relocated to Manhatten so the wealthy white liberals can experience first hand all the diversity they love so much.

  • Shawn (the female)

    I think it’s very telling that the most instinctive act of black females while celebrating is to splay their legs and stick out their tongues. Disgusting displays.

    Love the eye bleach comments!

  • Bill

    22 — Walt wrote at 11:29 PM on September 6:

    Why is it, in any discussion of the 1965 Immigration Act, the inititor of, and driving force behind, this nation breaker of an act is seldom mentioned. That close to treasonous individual was the late comunist Emmanuel Cellar, congressman from NYC.

    Return to the articles that appeared subsequent to the act’s passage in National Review and Human Events for 1965. Cellar made it clear that its primary goal was to permit unrestricted immigration of eastern european Jewry, particularly from the Soviet Union, into the US.

    Teddy boy Kennedy was involved only to insure that the new restrictions on the immigration of western european whites exempted the Irish.

    Walt, We must not forget to credit to Senator Jacob Jacobs who was the sponsor in the Senate for this bill. He talked Senator Philip Hart of Michigan to put his name on the bill. I don’t believe that Teddy Kennedy cared anything about the Irish immigration quota because I believe that the bill gave an annual quota of 300 to Ireland and 19,000 to Jamaica. I believe that Teddy was being blackmailed. Maybe Mary Jo Kopechne was not the first woman to die.

  • 10mm AUTO

    My parents used to talk in hushed tones about the “Valentine’s Day Massacre” in which 7 mafia types were gunned down. When I first saw the headline I thought, “No, they mean 5 or 8, not fifty eight. That number is more than were killed in the opening days of the War in Iraq.” I was wrong.

    58!!! Really??!! 58 people over a Weekend???!!

    This should be a national outrage spurring a call to change the immigration law. Instead it is discussed like a dog catcher story. I was going to say it was covered like a weather story, but even hurricane Irene got more extensive coverage.

  • Anonymous

    45 — 10mm AUTO wrote at 12:58 PM on September 7:

    58!!! Really??!! 58 people over a Weekend???!!

    Latest count is 68 shot, 10 dead.

  • Anonymous

    44 — Bill wrote at 12:34 PM on September 7:

    22 — Walt wrote at 11:29 PM on September 6:

    “Why is it, in any discussion of the 1965 Immigration Act, the inititor of, and driving force behind, this nation breaker of an act is seldom mentioned. That close to treasonous individual was the late comunist Emmanuel Cellar, congressman from NYC.

    Return to the articles that appeared subsequent to the act’s passage in National Review and Human Events for 1965. Cellar made it clear that its primary goal was to permit unrestricted immigration of eastern european Jewry, particularly from the Soviet Union, into the US.

    Teddy boy Kennedy was involved only to insure that the new restrictions on the immigration of western european whites exempted the Irish.

    Walt, We must not forget to credit to Senator Jacob Jacobs who was the sponsor in the Senate for this bill. He talked Senator Philip Hart of Michigan to put his name on the bill. I don’t believe that Teddy Kennedy cared anything about the Irish immigration quota because I believe that the bill gave an annual quota of 300 to Ireland and 19,000 to Jamaica. I believe that Teddy was being blackmailed. Maybe Mary Jo Kopechne was not the first woman to die. ”

    > As long as you are examining causes and laying at the feet of Jews, why not go just one step backwards and blame Cellar’s motivation on 2000 years of Christian persecution, which even communism in Russia couldn’t stop? Oh, that’s too anti-American, eh?

    I don’t like what Kennedy and Cellar did, and especially the lack of correction once we saw the undesirable effects, and we’ve had plenty of time for that since then. But placing selective blame for complex historical outcomes is disingenuous and a continuation of the first cause. Nothing gets solved.

  • Anonymous

    44 — Bill wrote at 12:34 PM on September 7:

    Walt, We must not forget to credit to Senator Jacob Jacobs who was the sponsor in the Senate for this bill. He talked Senator Philip Hart of Michigan to put his name on the bill.

    ———————————-

    I believe his name was Jacob JAVITS, not Jacob Jacob.

  • Anonymous

    23 — Anonymous wrote at 11:36 PM on September 6:

    @ Sureesh:

    Please try to not be offended by the term “brown people”. When I use this, it is also a time saving device so I do not have to name all the categories of brown people that make up most of the crime and violence in this country. Most people who comment on this site are intelligent enough to know who they are, and who they are not. I know that Indian-Americans and Asian-Americans are generally peaceful people. I also want to add that I enjoy reading your comments. That is one of the things I like about AmRen, they welcome respectfully written, intelligent commentary that welcomes people’s different perspectives.

    —————————————————–

    What is going on here at Amren? Nothing but a bunch of apologists to Sureesh because he is “offended”? His posts always offend me.

    —————–

    You go on to say,

    I also want to add that I enjoy reading your comments. That is one of the things I like about AmRen, they welcome respectfully written, intelligent commentary that welcomes people’s different perspectives.

    ——————————————-

    Really? Sureesh and his comments are now “respectfully written” and intelligent? Since when? I must have missed that ONE.

  • Anonymous

    40 — Anonymous wrote at 10:22 AM on September 7:

    “Poster 30, exactly. Neocons like Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Charles Krauthammer, Billy Kristol. “

    They are not Neocons they are traitors, plain and simple. However you left out the biggest and most influential of them all Rush Limbaugh. Between him and his friend Cheney they have more draft deferments than than everyone I know combined. What is funny they are for absolutely every war, including Vietnam. What a bunch of cowards!

    ——————————–

    They are neoconservatives. I call them neocons. Pat B. knows all about how they took over the Republican Party.(the paleo-conservatives) They are the same idiots who defamed Sam Francis also and left him a broke man at his death.(Sam was too close to the truths) They are nothing but communists in my book.

    Irving Kristol, Bill’s father,(both creeps) was the godfather of neo-conservatism. You can read about them on wiki.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kristol

  • Bill R

    Give it a rest Sureesh. Your brethren in India aren’t treating the Christians there very well. Setting fire to churches and homes with worshippers IN them. Beating Christians in streets. Jailing them. Telling Christian missionaries (usually White) to go home, threatening them with violence. Didn’t the term THUG come from the Indian Thuggee Cult? How’s that whole civilization thing going for India lately? How many are starving again? How many treated like slaves or like non-persons? As others have said – the third world is NOT on a par with 1st world civilization, and that is due to lack of civilized Western European respect for law, order, Christian based values, genuine compassion (for our own – at least it SHOULD be restricted to our own FIRST), etc.

    India is a cess pool. That’s why you “students” who come here to learn and are supposed to GO HOME afterward DON’T. You stay and take OUR jobs rather than go home and elevate your OWN people. I really don’t care if you are offended by being lumped in with other “brown people”. You ARE “brown people”. Third World, in other words. And you can be just as violent, just as intolerant, just as much a drain on our resources, just as much ungrateful, and just as much trouble as any of the rest of the Third World. I won’t apologize for offending you. If you don’t like hearing the truth, the stop your ears, or don’t come here. Quit trying to fit in with White Europeans while at the same time lecturing us on how great the Third World is, and how Indians are somehow different from other Third World parasites. Generate your OWN industry and your OWN jobs in your OWN country. Quit taking OURS.

  • Great White Observer

    New York has three more parades coming up shortly. They are Steuben Day, Pulaski Day, and Columbus Day. It would be great if the Dept of Sanitation would give the number of tons of garbage picked up at these three events compared to West Indian Day, Dominican Day, and Puerto Rican Day. Of course the total attendance at the upcoming three day’s combined is probably less than anyone of the other’s, that just shows you who is important in NYC in 2011, as a matter of fact the upcoming three hardly garner any press coverage and go off almost unoticed.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t diversity wonderful? I too despise neocons, especially as a military veteran who saw some bad stuff, but Rush did have it right recently when he noted that most of the summer violence such as flash mobs, and ridiculous shootings occurred in Blue states-not Red states where there aren’t such elaborate welfare programs, nonstop excuses within the legal system and strict gun-control. As a former New York City resident, ( I grew up there) I also remember one thing that the late Patrick Moynihan, a Democrat said: “When you subsidize certain types of behaviour, you get more of it.” This was back in 1965 (!) if I’m correct, but liberals and blue state politicians remain incapable of learning that lesson.

  • Question Diversity

    53 Anonymous:

    As if there are no riots and black flash mobs in red states where the welfare isn’t as generous and the gun control isn’t as draconian? You say you despise neo-cons, but you rely on neo-con ideology to explain something which really does have a simple explanation.

    One word: R-A-C-E. One more word: B-L-A-C-K.

    Where blacks are, crime and riots are. Welfare, gun legislation et al make almost no difference. What used to make a difference is the segregationist system, and a good hard whack across the skull with the baton of a white police officer, but that’s now a “civil rights violation.”

  • The Bobster

    Last night’s Seinfeld re run had his Statue of Liberty monologue.

    “Wretched refuse? Is that what we want? I guess we do, just load any degenerate, depraved, disgusting person you don’t want on a boat and send them over here.”

    ____________

    Do you know which Seinfeld episode is never rerun? It’s the Puerto Rican Day Parade one. The fact that it mentioned that violence broke out during the parade (as usual) was enough to get it banned.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t think of one single benefit Caribbean immigrants bring to any country they come to. Look at what just happened in London. As far as them “sharing” (I would say imposing) their diversity, language, culture, food, & music with us, they can keep them all. We are SHARING our country, economy, tax dollars, welfare, schools, hospitals, parks, etc, with them. I’d say they are getting the better deal by far. I find nothing at all “enriching” about those awful dreadlocks and listening to that dreadful Jamaican patois, such a vulgar mutilation of the beautiful English language. As for the statue of liberty, it was a gift from France to celebrate America’s centennial. IT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH IMMIGRATION AT ALL. The immigration lobby, recognizing it as a powerful symbol, hijacked it for its own propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    Indians from India are Negroid and are black. They came to India a long time ago and are one of many subgroups of the black race. Why they are called Asians is beyond me, but all I have to do is look at an H1-b worker from India here in Oregon, and I see blacker skin then American Blacks. The Indians also have that caste system that is so charming. I really don’t want millions of Indians taking over the US and believe me they will come, just like the Mexican did. Also does everyone know that Indians can’t be deported because India refuses to accept any of it’s citizens that have been deported? Look at the population of India and see why I am in a panic about this. The invasion from Mexico started slowly and one day it they took over.

  • Anonymous

    about the statue of liberty- I am really tired of the silencing mantra : “We are all immigrants or we are a nation of immigrants”

    I was born here and we go back hundreds of years. Americans are not immigrants . The phrase marginalizes American citizens, although we have already been stripped of all our rights anyways.

  • Gen. Lee

    #54 Question Diversity:

    “As if there are no riots and black flash mobs in red states where the welfare isn’t as generous and the gun control isn’t as draconian? One word: R-A-C-E. One more word: B-L-A-C-K. ”

    I respectfully beg to differ, QD. I think Rush and 53 Anonymous are right on here. Take a quick look at where the most egregious flash mobs and other mass black on white beatings have occurred: Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Denver, DC, Seattle, New York, Chicago, Des Moines….almost all liberal NORTHERN strongholds. Don’t hear about many flash mobs happening in rural OR urban Alabama and Mississippi! Not even in the mudhole of New Orleans! Why? It’s relatively simple: Whites are more racially aware down South, and more of them are packing heat. Blacks in the North sense weakness on the part of whites, and attack. Blacks in the south know they’d get a few bullets through their skull if they even tried.

  • Anonymous

    History- Immigration Act Of 1924

    Notice Emmanuel Celler, of course was opposed to it. So during all those years he made darn sure he was going to destroy White America. Over the succeeding four decades, Celler made the repeal of the Act his personal crusade. Thanks to Celler, we are now a 3rd world country. These kind of people NEVER stop and will push for years to get their way. BEWARE of them.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

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    Proponents of the Act sought to establish a distinct American identity by favoring native-born Americans over Southern Europeans in order to “maintain the racial preponderance of the basic strain on our people and thereby to stabilize the ethnic composition of the population”.[2] Reed told the Senate that earlier legislation “disregards entirely those of us who are interested in keeping American stock up to the highest standard-that is, the people who were born here”.[3] Southern and Eastern Europeans, he believed, arrive sick and starving and therefore less capable of contributing to the American economy, and unable to adapt to American culture.[2]

    Congressman Albert Johnson and Senator David Reed were the two main architects. In the wake of intense lobbying, the Act passed with strong congressional support.[4] There were nine dissenting votes in the Senate[5] and a handful of opponents in the House, the most vigorous of whom was freshman Brooklyn Representative Emanuel Celler. Over the succeeding four decades, Celler made the repeal of the Act his personal crusade.

    Some of the law’s strongest supporters were influenced by Madison Grant and his 1916 book, The Passing of the Great Race. Grant was a eugenicist and an advocate of the racial hygiene theory. His data purported to show the superiority of the founding Northern European races. Most proponents of the law were rather concerned with upholding an ethnic status quo and avoiding competition with foreign workers.[6] Samuel Gompers, a Jewish immigrant and founder of the AFL, supported the Act because he opposed the cheap labor that immigration represented, despite the fact that the Act would sharply reduce Jewish immigration.[7]

    Though the law’s quota system targeted immigrants based on their nation of origin rather than ethnicity or religion, Jewish immigration was a central concern. Hearings about the legislation cited the radical Jewish population of New York’s Lower East Side as the prototype of immigrants who could never be assimilated.[8] The law sharply curtailed immigration from those countries that were the homelands of the vast majority of the Jews in America, almost 75% of whom came from Russia alone.[9] Because Eastern European immigration only became substantial in the final decades of the nineteenth century, the law’s use of the population of the U.S. in 1890 as the basis for calculating quotas effectively made mass migration from Eastern Europe, the home of the vast majority of the world’s Jews, impossible.[

  • Anonymous

    >47 — Anonymous wrote at 2:13 PM on September 7:

    As long as you are examining causes and laying at the feet of Jews, why not go just one step backwards and blame Cellar’s motivation on 2000 years of Christian persecution, which even communism in Russia couldn’t stop? Oh, that’s too anti-American, eh?

    I don’t like what Kennedy and Cellar did, and especially the lack of correction once we saw the undesirable effects, and we’ve had plenty of time for that since then. But placing selective blame for complex historical outcomes is disingenuous and a continuation of the first cause. Nothing gets solved.

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    If Celler were around at that time, YES, he would have been involved in the Christian persecution. His personal CRUSADE started with his opposition to the 1924 Immigration Act and then from there he gave us the treasonous 1965 Immigration Act. He was evil. From his 1965 Immigration Act we are now seeing Christian persecution in our own country daily. Not to mention the race replacement of White Americans.

    Nothing gets or will get solved, if one listens to you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

  • Anonymous

    “Whites are more racially aware down South, and more of them are packing heat. Blacks in the North sense weakness on the part of whites, and attack. Blacks in the south know they’d get a few bullets through their skull if they even tried. “

    — GenLee

    Since I was sa young person (and I no longer am), I have been aware of the dramatic difference between blacks in the North and the South. Northern blacks are (often) challenging, confrontational, arrogant. [“We is just as good as you is. So dere! Take dat, Whitey!! An while I’m at it, gimme a dollah!!”]

    Southern blacks are (generally) courteous, pleasant, and respectful. The difference is amazing.

    It does seem to me that — despite all the northern liberalism, pandering and groveling — there are better race relations in the South.

  • Frank Jones

    And yet NOT ONE candidate wants to stop immigration. Rick Perry has called ‘illegal aliens’ unfortunate Texans! Look it up. Believe it or not though even on websites like the DailyKos (run by a former CIA operative) people are disgusted with all immigration.

  • Anonymous

    62 — Anonymous at 2:42 PM on September 8:

    Really?

    You mean the blacks in Atlanta, New Orleans (Katrina) etc.etc.. are pleasant, courteous and respectful?

    I do not buy what you are saying and wonder WHY you even said it.

  • Anonymous

    Everyone loves a Parade. Even the Homocidal Manaics in Brooklyn.

  • Anonymous

    Poster #2: Yes, the guns just flew out the doors and shot people on their own.

    Nothing said about the Crackhead Blacks carrying them, and pulling the triggers, though.

    It’s funny how I know people for years who own guns, which never come out to harm anyone, or anything, less a few targets at the Range, or an deer during Hunting season. They are very well behaved guns.

  • Anonymous

    Matt #35: That’s right, Matt. And when you make a connection, that’s when the pamphelts and flyers come out, with some related web site addresses for them to look up.

    Information is the key to winning over people to our side.