Public-Sector Jobs Vanish, Hitting Blacks Hard

Patricia Cohen, New York Times, May 24, 2015

For the Ingram clan, working for the Miami-Dade County transit system has led to regular paychecks, a steady advance up the economic ladder and even romance.

By driving buses in Miami’s sun-scraped communities, Richard Ingram and his wife, Susie, were able to join the ranks of the black middle class, moving with their four sons from a rental in the down-and-out neighborhood of Overtown eventually into their own house in central Miami.

Two of their children later followed them to the county bus depot. The eldest son, also named Richard, met his future wife there when she was assigned to the same route as his father.

“I tell you, my job is a godsend,” Richard Ingram Jr. said.

Now his older son, 21-year-old DQuan, is applying to take the transit system test, hoping to become a third-generation driver. But Mr. Ingram said that unlike when he was hired, today the competition is tougher and the jobs are a lot scarcer.

For the Ingrams and millions of other black families, working for the government has long provided a dependable pathway to the middle class and a measure of security harder to find in the private sector, particularly for those without college degrees.

Roughly one in five black adults works for the government, teaching school, delivering mail, driving buses, processing criminal justice and managing large staffs. They are about 30 percent more likely to have a public sector job than non-Hispanic whites, and twice as likely as Hispanics.

“Compared to the private sector, the public sector has offered black and female workers better pay, job stability and more professional and managerial opportunities,” said Jennifer Laird, a sociologist at the University of Washington who has been researching the subject.

During the Great Recession, though, as tax revenues plunged, federal, state and local governments began shedding jobs. Even now, with the economy regaining strength, public sector employment has still not bounced back. An incomplete recovery is part of the reason, but a combination of strong anti-government and anti-tax sentiment in some places has kept down public payrolls. At the same time, attempts to curb collective bargaining, like those led by Wisconsin’s governor, Scott Walker, a likely Republican presidential candidate, have weakened public unions.

The Labor Department counts half a million fewer public sector jobs than before the start of the recession in 2007. That figure, however, understates just how much the government’s work force has shrunk, said Elise Gould, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute, a labor-oriented research organization in Washington. That is because it fails to account for the normal growth in the country’s population: Factor that in, she said, and there are 1.8 million fewer jobs in the public sector for people to fill.

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Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.

But black workers overall, women in particular, also lost their jobs at a higher rate than whites, Ms. Laird found. There was a “double disadvantage for black public sector workers,” she said. “They are concentrated in a shrinking sector of the economy, and they are substantially more likely than other public sector workers to be without work.”

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  • connorhus

    Yep the government job has been the primary hirer of minorities and Women since the 80’s. Don’t blame the economy though on so many state, local and federal departments scaling back, blame the out of control pensions they are just beginning to have to deal with. Also this article is misleading Public sector jobs continue to grow faster than private sector and the jobs lost in the public sector since 08 come no where near the number of jobs lost by White Men in 07 and 08.

    The time of the government social uplifting experiment is ending. Welcome to the real world.

    • Those public-sector pension plans are heavily invested in municipal bonds from the same areas. From a financial standpoint, that’s dangerously irresponsible: “fiscally incestuous” is probably a more useful term.

      • Deacon Blue

        Its worse than that. Its a legalized Ponzi scheme. Which is why despite
        their oft tax free status I will never purchase muni’s or even most state
        government debt irrespective of the YTD or YTM. Yeah, I’d like to earn
        a guaranteed 8%+ on my money these days too and only pay capital
        gains of 20%. But I have an issue with buying up government bonds for
        places like Detroit, St. Louis, Atlanta, Chicago,anywhere in California, etc.
        OTOH? Some pref. stocks have divident yields that are >5% as do some REITS and even some corporate debt pulls 5% with Morningstar ratings of better than A or AA. Muni bonds are a bad bet generally speaking.

        • “Ponzi scheme” was exactly the term I was originally going to use, but I didn’t want it to sound like hyperbole.

          • Deacon Blue

            Its not hyperbole if its truth. And it is.

          • At least the Ponzi scheme run by Bernie Madoff was voluntary. That’s more than one can say for these municipal pension-municipal bond negative feedback loops. Participation in those is mandatory, even though they’re the equivalent of a snake swallowing itself, tail-first.

      • archer

        Yes, especially when you have a large part of the tax base that is white “fleeing” to somewhat “safer” surroundings, leaving many cities and towns heavily in debt.

        • Those places also tend to have governments that are anti-business, so the combination of white flight and both incidental and deliberate destruction of the retail sector kills the tax base.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Steven Greenhut has written much about the out-of-control public sector pensions.

      He claims that in Cali-foreigner many cops, firemen and COs retire at age 50 with $100,000 pensions. That’s simply not sustainable.

  • Quote: “One in five black adults works for government.”

    Well, let’s be honest and say “gets paid” by the government. And when you factor in the numerous forms of welfare we have going, it’s more like four in five.

    • Johnny Clay

      Some of the government agencies I’ve dealt with in my career have a much higher black work force than 1 in 5. A few offices have very few, if any, whites working in them.

      • Scott Rosen

        I used to work for Uncle Sham. Where I was, fully 50% of the workforce was African.

        • Alexandra1973

          I have to wonder how many of those jobs for the blacks are just “make-work” jobs and aren’t necessary.

          • Don Eladio

            Like chewblacka’s last job?

          • Scott Rosen

            All of them.

      • Cheri Rodriguez

        Fire departments still tend to be 85% White (if that’s considered a government agency). It’s usually only White guys who are willing to run into burning buildings and risk their lives.

        • Xerxes22

          That’s because applicants have to pass a series of tests to get hired as a fireman. Thus we have all these lawsuits over the tests. Google “Tragic Johnson ” of NYC to see the end result of these law suits.

    • Dr. Rieux

      If gets paid by the government is the criterion, then it’s closer to 9 out of 10 blacks.

      • Albert

        True. You have to count welfare.

    • propagandaoftruth

      Now his older son, 21-year-old DQuan, is applying to take the transit
      system test, hoping to become a third-generation driver. But Mr. Ingram
      said that unlike when he was hired, today the competition is tougher and
      the jobs are a lot scarcer.

      ———————-

      Well, Richard, first of all you named your son “DQuan”.

      I need know no more when choosing whether to hire “DQuan” or “Richard”.

      Unfair? Well you’re the one that named him “DQuan”, Rastus!

      • Sick of it

        I’ve seen otherwise normal blacks give their kids ghetto names. Names that are nothing like their own. It’s weird.

        • It speaks volumes about the genuine IQs of these “middle-class” blacks.

        • Serious_Texan

          A professor from Duke pointed out recently that the made-up names blacks give their kids is their attempt to remain separate from the culture and not assimilate. In my opinion, it’s also a way blacks draw attention to themselves.

          • propagandaoftruth

            I always roll my eyes eventually when smart people try to figure out how stupid people think.

            Um…their stupid, and their stupid brains spit out stupid names for their kids, so they will better be able to grow up stupid and carry on their stupid, parasitic culture.

            How about that? I’m a master of the obvious, lol.

          • MBlanc46

            And the hair and the clothing styles. Anything to show that they’re “keepin’ it real” and not some tight-arsed white.

          • Deacon Blue

            What was that book where the example was the two darkie kids named Orangello and Lemonjello? Bill Cosby would have told them to “eat the pudding!”

          • Blackfish

            Cuz dey be special!

          • Spending one’s entire life being constantly asked how one’s name is spelled would indeed be “special”.

        • TruthBeTold

          Have you ever had a black parent bring a child to work one day and tell you his/her name?

          I have to suppress the urge to say, ‘are you kidding me?’

          • Don Eladio

            My wife’s side of the family has nogged out to the max. One of the semigroids they churned out is named Lovelyfe. LOVELYFE!!!. I SHlT you not. They call it whoopi. Geezus Kraist.

          • dukem1

            Makes you wanna say “You can’t make this stuff up.”…But they do!!!

          • What’s up with the “Fe”? The chemical symbol for iron?

          • Lexonaut

            You read it incorrectly. Try Love Lyfe.

            Of course if it is chemicals then they would be lothium, venedium, lysol and iron.

          • I read it as “Lovely iron”.

          • HE2

            So did I, MCS. Lovely iron would be just as sensible.

          • Don Eladio

            Yeah, Mr. White!
            Yeah, SCIENCE!!!

          • Lexonaut

            Now you know. Lysol is an element.

          • Don Eladio

            Sorry…pronounced love life.

            And I LOVE Breaking Bad!

          • Sick of it

            Nope, most of us make fun of various black names though.

        • dukem1

          The guy from Duke nailed it…They want to be different…That’s what pays these days.

        • Born_In_The_Pineywoods

          I met one today named “Kasual.” 45 year old or so black female.

          • Cuddles

            Tears are flowing down my face!

          • HE2

            Today met a White coal burner with a mulatto teenaged kid she named “Zaire.”
            I thought it was a boy. Nope, a girl.
            As most black females, she apparently had more testosterone than necessary. Between masculine appearance and a gender neutral name, its sex was indeterminate.

          • Blackfish

            Is she going to change it to Congo now that the country of Zaire has been renamed?

          • HE2

            Dang, if I had remembered that, would have axed. Congo, a much better name.
            Can you imagine the bottomed out self esteem of a White who would mate with a nonWhite?

          • M.A

            I was once stuck in a sandwich bar beside a coalburner and her mulatto. I was mortified that anybody might think I was with her. The child was about three years old but, for the life of me, I could not guess the sex of the child. The clothes the child was wearing gave no clue, neither, of course did the facial features or hair.

            I have noticed since then that, coalburners, tend to dress their female children in very “girly” feminine clothes because they are fully aware how UNfemine, by White standards, their daughters actually are.

          • HE2

            The “product of conception” in this case had a close cropped haircut, was wearing pants and a Tee shirt. Not a gender identifying feature to be seen. It was anybody’s guess.
            When I was still working, we had a shapelessly overweight gurney pusher attendant, I think a Filipino, whose gender I never did guess. It too had a gender neutral name.
            Reminded me of SNL’s “Pat.”

          • Blackfish

            The old receptionist at my office named her kids Mercedes and Maserati. Classy.

          • There’s a YouTube video by a gal in blackface who goes by the name Shirley Q. Liquor: “Who My Baby Daddy”. Simply priceless.

      • TruthBeTold

        One of the first articles I remember reading the the old print-version of AR was the piece about an immigrant who wrote about his experience with the NYC authority test and their capitulation to barely literate blacks and minorities.

        • Simonetta

          When I applied for a government program that puts seniors (55+) into internships and pays them minimum wage, I had the most dog-gone-ist time trying to get some 40-year-old negro woman administrator to understand that the $8800 in my bank account was not my annual income ($0.00). Finally a white person was able to understand the concept and get me into the program.

      • Simonetta

        DQuan — Dairy Queen uses another negro

        I agree. With all the Chinese people adopting Victorian names like Alice and Mary to interface with western society, there’s no excuse for blacks giving their kids ridiculous names and expecting not to get called out for it.

        • Deacon Blue

          Its not just Chinese. Koreans too. My wife adopted a more Anglo
          name and when she naturalized that {Anglo name} became her
          legal name here in the USA. She also speaks English, has a
          teaching job and pays taxes. See? Some minorities do try to
          assimilate and don’t whine!

          • Albert

            It galls me that the border jumpers not only fail to assimilate and adapt to us, they demand we make concessions and adapt to them.

          • Deacon Blue

            And we do. Because of the amount of White, liberal, douche
            bags who are in positions of power in this country.

          • george00

            Assimilate, integrate, miscegenate. I don’t understand why any white person would want nonwhite assimilation unless they just want to destroy the white race.

          • Lexonaut

            Your wife has what I will call contact white privilege. It’s not fair to try to call her a minority.

          • Deacon Blue

            My wife teaches at what we will call a “post-secondary level” on a part time basis to keep busy. Because she teaches in a STEM field there are very few Blacks or Hispanics. Mostly Whites & Asians/Indians. The best part is the rare Black that enrolls in a course that she teaches soon finds out that its not getting a “free A or free pass” for being Black and more oft than not? Drops the class.

          • Cuddles

            I’ll give you a three dollar bill if she changes it to DQuan, I promise!

          • Deacon Blue

            Could not wait to shed her Asian name and assimilate into the USA!!!

      • dukem1

        100 up-votes for stating the obvious.

    • jane johnson

      That would include the leisure class of welfare recipients, and make the ratio more like four in five.

    • slobotnavich

      A much needed distinction. Well spake!

    • Light from the East

      Blacks’ inability, unproductivity, inefficiency are transforming some areas of the country into Africa’s. There was a new recently that Nigeria has a energy crisis but it is strange that it is the largest oil producer in Africa. The reason is that it lacks the infrastructure and technology to put those crude oil into useable energy. Ironic, isn’t it? It is an international joke when a country has abundant resources.

      • Blackfish

        The oil revenues get stolen by government officials, as does the aid money to build the infrastructure. It blows my mind that these countries continue to get aid from the U.S., UN, NGOs, etc. I suspect most of it goes into a numbered Swiss account

        • Light from the East

          That’s true. I can add some perspectives. We are used to facing liberals when it comes to black’s IQ issue. The argument liberals usually use is that there are blacks with IQ above 120 and I know many of them. What they say is true, there are really some smart black people. But they are not the majority. For African American, there are only 15% of them having IQ above 100. And for Africans, there are only 2.5% of them having IQ above 100. So for those smart black Africans, it is reasonable and highly rewarding to be in government position to control the whole nation’s resources since they know how stupid the majority Africans are. Next time when liberals talk about black people’s smartness, don’t forget to mention you know several of them – dictators and those corrupt officials.

    • Cuddles

      That’s why the support left wing initiatives because it provides them with subsidies by the state.

  • In that which they admit implicitly that the black middle class is an artificial construct, a result of public or quasi public sector affirmative action.

    • They are also saying that it is possible to create a “middle class” out of functionally-illiterate, borderline retards only via borrowing more money from China.

      • jane johnson

        What else could they do? They’d already fleeced the genuine middle class to within an inch of penury.

      • dukem1

        That’s cold, man. True, but cold.

      • Deacon Blue

        I disagree. Perhaps DQ has an IQ of say…85ish? Maybe the rigors of
        studying/practicing for a CDL A with a passenger endorsement actually
        are mentally and physically taxing for such a person Michael? My youngest brother grew up in the same house with the same folks I did. He’s not Black but he works for the city government in the same mundane position he has had since he graduated from high school. The world needs people to fill pot holes for the DOT as much as it needs biochemical engineers and coders skilled in Python. I’d rather have DQ driving a bus than burglarizing my house and trying to rape my women. True, he may
        do both. Would that be an example of multi-tasking?

        • Sid Ishus

          “The world needs people to fill pot holes for the DOT as much as it needs biochemical engineers and coders skilled in Python.” ??

          • HE2

            DOT=Dept. of Transportation.
            Python=Computer programming language.

          • Sid Ishus

            Understood what he was saying. Just not sure I can agree with his value judgment.

            Street worker = engineer/programmer

          • I wish someone would fill the pot holes around here. Our heavy rains have done some rather spectacular damage to the roads.

          • Blackfish

            Il take potholes over negro “workers” myself.

        • mike j

          Certainly the world needs ditch diggers too. (I remember hearing that from an engineering prof thirty-odd years ago.) The problem is that paying DQuan to do it enables him to sire (in or out of wedlock) Andre, DeShawn, Tyrone, and Shitavious, who probably will burgle your home and rape your women even it DQuan doesn’t.

      • Blackfish

        He’s figured out that a job with the city of Miami means never working an hour of overtime, liberal absentee policies and better benefits than he could ever get in the private sector, including early retirement since driving a bus is such hard work! Actually, he’ll probably file a bogus disability claim after a few years and never work again.

  • Isn’t this considered “overspecialization” when it occurs in the animal kingdom? It also seems akin to an electrical engineer investing every spare cent in high-tech stocks; when industry takes a major hit, not only does he lose his job, but his savings are simultaneously worthless.

    • Sick of it

      DQuan’s ridiculous name might prevent him from getting a job worth having.

      • John Smith

        Shh, mentioning that black names keep them out of the mainstream of society is now racist.

        • Sick of it

          Even a lot of liberals around here make fun of black names. They’re just too weird.

    • Deacon Blue

      If there are substantially more Blacks working in government than are reflected
      by their at-large population demographics would this not be considered “disparate
      impact” but Obama, Sharpton, Jackson and Holder?

      • Lexonaut

        No, because slavery happened, and 400 years of the white man keeping the black man down, and Jim Crow. Also, MLK was murdered in cold blood.

        • Deacon Blue

          If only we could have had another 400 years…

    • John Smith

      Blacks are always housed by the govt. in some manner, be it the projects or the penitentiary, so they have nothing to worry about.

  • superlloyd

    Cry me a river. Back to the welfare gibs payouts for DQuan and co.

  • LHathaway

    “Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder”.

    If there are lessor numbers of Whites working for government can there be any other conclusion that Whites are being discriminated against. Wouldn’t discussing anything else be insensitive? But not to this news source. According to this news source Whites work these jobs in lessor numbers than their share of the population (and this is refusing to look at over all demographics at all – where most non-whites are too young to even be in the labor force), and the conclusion they’ve drawn is that this is unfair to non-whites.

    • jane johnson

      Sure explains the bureaucratic inefficiency of government agencies, though, doesn’t it?

    • listenupbub

      Awesome comment. +1000

    • Albert

      Oxy-morons– Military Intelligence, Christian Science, Liberal Logic.

    • Cuddles

      We have white privilege and that’s all that will be said. Maybe we should discuss Semitic privilege in the future?

  • WR_the_realist

    How come when the private sector makes big cuts, due to economic downturns or outsourcing, the NYT never has a weepy article about how whites are particularly hard hit by this because so many of them work in the private sector?

    • Alexandra1973

      Who needs jobs when you have White Privilege?

    • Cuddles

      Because they despise us.

  • Caesar Avgvstvs

    Blacks will eventually lose whatever influence they had over American life as other parasitical invaders fight with blacks for a steadily shrinking pool of AA jobs and other government benefits. The day is coming when blacks will become virtual pariahs, completely socially, culturally, politically and economically marginalized in the US.

    • Serious_Texan

      Blacks seem to be falling off the pedestal rather quickly.

      • Don Eladio

        I prefer it when they “off” eachother.

    • Weisheit77

      That’s my professional opinion. They shoot each other and abort each other at much too high of a rate for a population boom. The decline of hip-hop has hurt their cultural standings. The increase in the popularity of international sports (soccer, chief amongst them; before anyone lectures me about blacks being in soccer, too, I’m aware of it, but it isn’t on anything like the scale that it is in the NFL/NBA) will also diminish their cultural standings.

      I know it’s anecdotal, but I’ve known Chinese, Indians, Colombians, Mexicans, and even black Africans who hate the African American (the later doesn’t count obviously).

      The great irony is that most of the AA, civil rights legislation, and open borders stuff was sold as a way to help them.

    • Don Eladio

      Yesterday wouldn’t be soon enough, though.

    • MBlanc46

      And that despite the frenzied efforts of the Neo-Stalinists to give them everything that isn’t nailed down.

  • Weisheit77

    Two words… Affirmative Action.

  • MekongDelta69

    “End Of The World Tomorrow”

    Blacks, browns, mooz-lims, feminazis, gays, trannies, eco-freaks, and all other leftist lunatics hit hardest.”

    • phillyguy

      I wish

    • Albert

      Sounds like a fairy tale with a happy ending.

      • Cuddles

        But the spillover eventually kills us.

  • Lady Texas

    Enjoy it while it lasts black America, because the the current state of Black America is as good as it’s going to get!

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Today, blacks are less likely than whites to own their own homes or have sizable retirement savings, two of the primary ways most families accumulate wealth. In 2013, the median white family had net assets of $142,000 compared with $11,000 for the median black family,

    But black workers overall, women in particular, also lost their jobs at a higher rate than whites

    The NY Times would have us believe that the government is shrinking with blacks as the ultimate victims.

    some researchers and union officials also see a racial undercurrent in the campaigns…it’s really an attack on these communities.

    Blamed on White racism, of course.

    The NY Times has a long, tradition of pro- Communist, anti-White reporting going back to the days of Walter Duranty.

    I’m sure the NY Times solution is to force the private sector to raise the minimum wage to $15.00/hour in the name of income equality.

    That’s what’s being implemented in Los Angeles and Seattle to “lift blacks and poor Hispanics out of poverty.”

    Businesses say they can’t wait…to move out of the state.

    • TruthBeTold

      Now we understand why government keeps growing. To provide jobs to blacks.

      • Cuddles

        That’s it in a nutshell.

    • Blackfish

      The hypocrisy is that few blacks work for the Times, at least as reporters, editors and columnists

  • TruthBeTold

    Where can you find a high-paying secure job with little education? The government.

    It tells you a lot doesn’t it.

  • Ed

    Black run DC’s Metro System, they make up 97% of the bus drivers and train operators. They’re also well represented in engineering, routinely whites possessing PhDs are passed over for barely literate blacks. Of course this has yielded predictable results. There have been fatalities due to incompetence and trains are routinely delayed.

    The Dept of Ed is over 60% Black and HUD is around 50% Black.

  • angerinthestreet

    This is one reason why public transportation is so lousy in big cities across America.

    • Blackfish

      And it’s blamed on inadequate infrastructure ending. Take a train in Europe someday and you’ll see the difference.

  • Heiny Hidmeid

    Blacks have all the jobs that were automated and computorized. The blacks could be eliminated and never be missed. The only benefit of employing them is that it keeps them off the streets for a while.

    • dukem1

      Just for a while.

    • John Smith

      They love to lord it over YT when you have to come in to get something done.

      • Cuddles

        Can’t they send them to Africa to outsource thee jobs?

  • Deacon Blue

    WTF is a DQuan?

    • Cuddles

      Why couldn’t they name him Richard III at least for tradition’s sake?

    • Strider73

      He was probably conceived during a “quickie” in a Dairy Queen restroom.

      • Deacon Blue

        Thanks. I get it now. Like “Dairy Queen Juan” or DQuan.
        So if he was conceived in a Burger King would be a BKuan?

        • Blackfish

          That’s his sister.

  • John Smith

    Explains why govt. agencies are so screwed up and ineffectual, but perhaps that’s a good thing in the end. It seems that it’s pretty obvious that govt. hires the negroes no one else wants.

  • Lexonaut

    “Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.”

    I’m reminded of two jokes from the early 70s giving newspaper headlines regarding a Bostonian who visits NYC on the same day that the Russians hit it with an H-bomb …

    Boston Globe: Hub Man Killed in New York Blast

    New York Times: City Destroyed, Women and Minorities Hit Hardest

  • D.B. Cooper

    Look at how many white boys have been duped into accepting their own demise. Take this typical example of how I’m treated on other sites:

    • Deacon Blue

      Can’t be saved – wasting your breath.

    • Alexandra1973

      And the Klan (spelled wrong, naturally) is automatically invoked. Talk about a knee-jerk reaction.

      • carriewhite64

        Cue the “Nazi” label in 3…2….1…..

      • WR_the_realist

        From a liberal Democrat’s point of view, there are only two kinds of people — liberal Democrats and Klansmen.

  • Hilis Hatki

    Yes, our bureaucrats are becoming more nonwhite.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    “One in five black adults works for government.”

    And that statistic is the minority occupation government controlling the narrative. Imagine if they factored in all the working welfare cases at the city, state, and federal contractors.

  • John Smith

    Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are demanding amnesty for illegals, so blacks couldn’t be getting hit that hard.

  • Tony Murphy

    Virtually every middle class black is ‘working’ for the gub’mint or else in some made-up AA job. Forthcoming economic crisis should be interesting.