FGM: A Modern-Day Scourge in the United States

Liriel Higa, New York Times, May 22, 2015

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The CDC hasn’t released a final estimate, but a draft obtained by The Guardian estimates 513,000 women and girls are living with or a risk of female genital mutilation, or “female circumcision,” as it is sometimes referred to euphemistically. Illegal to perform on minors in the United States since 1996, it has no health benefit and typically involves removing part or all of the genitals of babies or young girls, though in some cases it can be a nick. Under one extreme form, the vulva is sewn up afterward, leaving just a small opening for menstruation and urination. The result can lead to great pain and health complications, particularly in childbirth. Parents have their daughters undergo the procedure because they view it as a rite of passage that will improve marriage prospects; there is often an assumption that a girl with a clitoris is likely to be “wild.”

The Population Reference Bureau used methods similar to those the CDC employed, and in its own study concluded that 507,000 women are at risk and affected in the United States. The numbers are calculated based on the number of women coming from countries with high prevalence rates of female genital mutilation, or daughters with parents from those countries. In fact, says Mark Mather of the Population Reference Bureau, compared to the 1997 estimate, which included people with ancestry from an affected country, the latest figure is more conservative because it is limited to the first and second generation.

Yet the women who come to the United States aren’t necessarily representative of other countries’ population as a whole, and when it comes to a precise count of how many women have actually undergone the procedure, that’s much harder to calculate. The practice isn’t uniform within a country–it can vary by region, religion and wealth, for example, a level of nuance that is difficult to extrapolate when it comes to the U.S. population. In Benin, 72 percent of Peulh girls have undergone the procedure, while it is not practiced among the Adja and Fon ethnicities. In Gambia, 82 percent of girls and women who have been cut think the practice should continue, compared to only 5 percent of those who have not been cut. Low-income Liberian women are twice as likely to have been cut as wealthy ones.

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Brendan Wynne of Equality Now, which has been lobbying for years to address female genital mutilation in England and the United States, says that it’s a mistake to assume that just because immigrants to the United States may be more affluent and educated, that means they are less likely to have been cut. “There’s no real connection in that sense, he says. “The last places for FGM to exist will be in the Western world. Diaspora communities tend to hold onto it.”

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So how can the United States get more precise numbers? The United Kingdom–where some 137,000 women are said to be affected–offers one model. There, health professionals in the national health care system must make note in a patient’s health care record if she has been cut. The Department of Health also collects data every month from acute trusts, which manage hospitals, on how many patients have undergone the procedure.

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  • mike j

    Does anyone really care what barbarians do to their own women? It’s quite disgusting that this sort of thing happens in America, but it’s obvious that we can’t prevent them from engaging in their peculiar practices. All we can do is to prevent them from doing it in our country.

    • Lexonaut

      “All we can do is to prevent them from doing it in our country.”

      England and Canada can’t. I don’t expect the USA to be any different.

      • George Moriarty

        It is also happening here in Australia, likewise arranged child marriages. There have been prosecutions but will we really be able to stop it happening?
        Remember, in their mindset, Islamic Law takes precedence over Australian laws.

        • Earl P. Holt III

          I genuinely think Rule of Law is about as alien to them as a manufacturing base…

    • Uncle Wardle

      Preventing them from coming to our country would even be nicer!

      • mike j

        Well, yeah, I thought it would be obvious that not admitting any more of them and removing those who are here are the only ways to prevent FGM in America. Perhaps it would be sufficient to abolish the welfare state.

  • The “scourge” isn’t FGM, it’s admitting people of FGM cultures as immigrants.

    • propagandaoftruth

      Except that it ultimately costs me money because idiots care…

      I could care less what those idiots do to their idiot girl childrens’ vulvi. If it lowers their birth rate I’m all for it.

      • Don Eladio

        I couldn’t.

        • propagandaoftruth

          How does that work?

  • D.B. Cooper

    You know, I have this Yoda meme-caption. Most of you long timers have seen it. It says something about not giving a flying……

  • WR_the_realist

    No leftist has a right to complain about this. After all, all cultures are equal and we should not impose our Western morals on everybody else.

    • dukem1

      Cultural Imperialism!!!
      Aren’t we all supposed to be against it?
      (Except for the good kind, like Manifest Destiny) !!!

    • DevilDocNowCiv

      WR,

      You make a good, valid point. I’d like to see this tee’d up for clarification, with a Repub calling a committee hearing, and some Dem primed to showboat some opposition in the name of cultural equality. Tell the Dem he/she will be filmed while a cheering section is praising him/her. the Dem will perform like a champ. Then put the hearing on YouTube and we have another teaching video to use later. Later, when the uninterested last minute undecided voter wakes up and finally gets interested a week or two before voting day in Nov 2016.

  • superlloyd

    If there were no imported africans and muslims, this problem would not exist. One of the many unexpected advantages of diversity and cultural vibrancy, or not.

  • De Doc

    So according to the CDC the problem of FGM is with those immigrants arriving from certain countries. Hmmmmm… whatever could be the solution to this perplexing enigma?

    • Lexonaut

      “… perplexing enigma …”

      To my ear it sounds like an embarrassing medical condition.

    • carriewhite64

      I know. Let’s think on that for a while. Surely there exists some place on the planet where this practice is accepted by the population that presently lives there?

  • HJ11

    They’re non-White. I am White. It is not my problem or my business. I practice non-interference in the ways of non-Whites and I’m indifferent to their problems. Let nature wipe them out or keep them alive as nature determines.

  • Reynardine

    I wonder when we’re going to start tackling the scourge of male genital mutilation in this country.

    Oh wait, that’s the right kind of genital mutilation. I’m so confused.

    • Weisheit77

      Shh… (I’m with you but don’t start up “you won’t wash your penis” crowd; maybe we should lop off ears, too, since kids forget to wash them also.)

    • George Moriarty

      A little bit more seriously;
      1, The EU wants to declare circumcision a violation of the rights of the child.
      2, Whatever your religious beliefs are, circumcision has proven health benefits particularly in the prevention of STDs.
      Male circumcision can not even start to be compared with the barbaric practice of FGM. Was it Lady Macbeth who famously said in her time of great remorse; “Unsex me now”? Because that is what FGM is all about.
      Basically FGM is one of the “cultural enrichments” (ha ha) resulting from Islamic immigration. As always, remember their ways are not our ways, and they never will be.

      • Reynardine

        FGM, from my understanding, also makes sex uncomfortable for women, thereby lessening STD rates. Just like circumcision, it also makes the area have fewer crevices for bacteria, further promoting cleanliness. There’s really no reason, besides how it’s practiced (we can bring it up to modern standards with 21st century technology), that it isn’t as valid as male mutilation.

        Or we could behave like sane people and just not chop anybody’s genitals off. The STD prevention studies are both controversial and only apply to high-risk populations (homosexuals, Africans). So many things could be easily solved by just not being a slut.

        The only reason why circumcision exists is for an industry (can who guess who) to make money.

  • Lady Texas

    When the libtard chattering class hears about this they will quickly blame the “conservative war on women.”

    Sensible person: “what about the demographics of the people committing the mutations?”
    Libtard response: “racist, racist, raaaaacist!”

  • IstvanIN

    We must respect and celebrate all cultures and the diverse practices they bring. These new traditions make us stronger.

    • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

      The cultural Marxists should line up for this “hip” new procedure! They like all that tribal, foreign idiocy, let’s sell FGM as the new earlobe stretching, or Asian character tattoos!

  • Jason Lewis

    Diversity is our strength!

    • propagandaoftruth

      Hey, I think you and I will end up paying to repair the mutilated vulvi of borderline retarded African immigrants eventually, eh?

      This is what our founding fathers envisioned. The dream.

      • Jason Lewis

        We need to pay for it but make sure you make no judgemental statements about that culture. All cultures are equal and who are we to put our standards on them? At least that’s what one of my professors told us.

  • Nope: just don’t care.

    I believe I will fix myself another Bloody Mary.

    • dukem1

      right back atcha , Mr. Scott….I’m a gin on the rocks guy, myself.
      Cheers!

      • Lexonaut

        Diet pepsi. I have Irish genes and had to quit 25 years ago.

    • propagandaoftruth

      Stay away from this stuff…

      Notice the red “bum”. It will mutilate yours I’m sure.

  • DaveMed

    Those darned Amish are at it again!

  • Katherine McChesney

    Who cares? They’re only Muslims.

  • Diana Moon Glampers

    Does it keep them from being “wild” at all? Do the cut girls have fewer children? Just one baby daddy? Use less welfare?

    If any of those are the case, I am decidedly PRO-fgm for all Africans.

    • Blackfish

      As I understand it, FGM only reduces the pleasurable sensation of sex. Since the sort of women who undergo this procedure are completely subservient to their husbands, it has no impact on the birthdate

      I had thought this practice was intended to keep women from committing adultery. A fellow AmRenner suggested it was to eliminate lesbianism in the harem.

  • Weisheit77

    It must be hard to be a leftist; we have to respect their cultures unless they’re killing homosexuals, operating on women’s private parts, or committing honor killings!

    • Lexonaut

      Even then we have to respect those cultures. We’re all the same, you know, and no one culture is better than another.

      • ZenSouth

        The cognitive dissonance liberals have with this issue and many others is just mind boggling.

      • carriewhite64

        Walking on the moon = piercing your nose in order to stick a bone through it.

        • Lexonaut

          They’re not equivalent. One hurts and the other doesn’t.

  • MekongDelta69

    Anybody see the words mooz-lim or Arab in the article?

    Nah… Me neither…

    • dukem1

      Ya know, the world was a better place when the common usage was Muhammadans.
      Really. Think about it.

      • phillyguy

        It was even better when they were called sand n***ers

      • Tannenbaum

        Right you are. That’s what I’ve always called them.

        • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

          dune c**ns.

    • LeonNJ

      It could be those damn Irish Catholic immigrants.

    • Not all Muslims do it, and many non-Muslim Africans do it. There’s a lot of overlap, but it’s just as valid to say it’s an African problem as to say it’s a Muslim problem.

    • Jason Lewis

      That would be wrong as we all know muslims are just as good or bad as Lutherans.

      • Anglokraut

        Lutherans are worse: Moslems know better than to flood their lands with non-Moslems. Lutherans fall over one another to show how tolerant they are.

  • HJ11

    Let’s see, female genital mutilation is bad, but male genital mutilation is good. Huh? Meanwhile, in the news is a story of a White mother who is being forced by the court to have her son’s genitals mutilated in a barbaric religious ritual.

    • Who Me?

      Yeah, At 4 years old they want him to be circumcised–that’s going to work out well for his future mental health isn’t it?

      • George Moriarty

        It is not mutilation and it will be done under a general anaesthetic by a qualified surgeon in a proper hospital. It will not even affect the boy except as he grows older his penis will look more acceptable.

        • HJ11

          It is mutilaton and it doesn’t matter where it is done. It is a religious practice and it shouldn’t be forced on those who do not follow the religion that mandates this mutilation.

          • Blackfish

            My late uncle was a doctor in the navy post-WW II. A large number of the crew came forward and asked to be circumcised, believing that it increased sexual gratification. The captain assented but only on the cruise home (from China, IIRC). Just an anecdote fwiw

  • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

    I just don’t care what those disgusting savages do. Hey, isn’t it “cultural imperialism” or whatever, to try and stop these noble immigrants from practicing their vibrant and rich culture? Too bad it doesn’t sterilize them, that’s the only tragedy here.

    • At this rate, there will come a day when they’ll do it to OUR daughters as well.

      • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

        You’re probably right, but nobody seems to be bothered enough to do anything to prevent it…like deporting these savages and keeping them out of civilized nations. Heck, some parents might welcome it! I’d never have imagined that people like Amy Biehl’s parents would exist, or that parents would allow, accept and even celebrate their daughters with blacks. At this point, nothing in the black-worshiping West would surprise me. We can’t say we weren’t warned, though:

        In 1912, “A Racial Program for the 20th Century” was published by Israel Cohen (Zionist-Communist). A sample of its content:

        “We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is RACIAL TENSION. By propounding into the consciousness of the Dark races,
        that for centuries they have been OPPRESSED by Whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the Whites, we will endeavor to instill in the Whites, a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. We will aid the Negros to rise in prominence in every walk of life, in the professions, and in the world of sports and entertainment.
        With this prestige, the Negro will be able to inter-marry with the Whites and begin a process which will deliver America to our cause.”
        (On June 17, 1957, the above passage was read into the U.S. Congressional Record by Rep. Thomas G. Abernathy.)

  • ZenSouth

    There seems to be a large influx these days of muslims into the states. I have never seen so many women walking around in burkhas except on an hbo special,lol. Seems like the powers that be are importing them like wally world imports chinese crap.

    • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

      You’re right. I used to live in a medium sized Gulf tourist city (recently in the news for beach rape). When we moved there it was mostly white, and maybe 20% black. A few others, maybe 10% total of everything else. But, in a few years I started seeing burka clad women and more of their men. The doctors all of a sudden started becoming Muslims, and began building huge, brand new medical buildings. How do they afford this? Why are they there? They are most certainly not welcome, but there they are anyway. Disgusting. At this rate, they’ll be swarming Appalachia and the rural West, you’ll find them (like Hispanics) in every corner of the country. And the citizens will have nothing to say, will do nothing, just go home and watch their TV so it can tell them how great these people are and how racist and evil the Americans are for not falling all over themselves to welcome them.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    I would have read about this — and might have been concerned — but I had to rearrange my sock drawer…

    • carriewhite64

      I thought about it for a moment, then remembered I had to clean my dryer lint filter.

  • KyraNelson

    I demand that these operations are to be covered by ObamaCare! If they are not, it is proof that there is a war on women. And while we’re at it, let’s import 50,000 MORE Syrian “refugees.”

  • Hilis Hatki

    Ahhhh! So that’s whats happen to Miss Liberty.

  • carriewhite64

    So now we are asked to investigate the “nuances” of which immigrant populations practice this. Even assuming that such a barbaric practice has nuances, why should I care?

  • Michael North

    The Carthaginians sacrificed children to Moloch, and the Romans wiped them out.
    The British wiped out thugee in India. They did what they could against suttee, but it still goes on in today’s shiny, hi-tech India.
    Some cultures are just plain vile. Concede that they are all worthy of “respect”, and you are sunk.

  • Spikeygrrl

    “… there is often an assumption that a girl with a clitoris is likely to be ‘wild.'”

    YA THINK????

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    Across the USA, every day perfectly normal parents make the decision to circumcise their infant boys, a procedure performed by knowledgeable practitioners, in clinical environments, using appropriate instruments. However, radical anti-circumscisionists have been bleating for years in the same vein as the anti-female clitoral excisionists quoted above.

    Let’s leave aside for the moment whether or not parents have the same right to clitorally excise their girls in infancy as they do to circumcise their boys. A better question to begin with is whether or not this procedure should be legal for ADULT women as an ELECTIVE surgery (not, of course, covered by insurance).

    Let’s face it, female orgasm is as evolutionarily useless as the dodo, the appendix, and the proverbial teats on a bull. “Wild” behavior even in so-called adults? YOU BETCHA. All that female orgasm “achieves” is to send us haring off after “bad boys” who are “good in bed” instead of the saner choices we’d make if our brains wern’t temporarily residing in our private parts. Do most women REALLY want to be as DRIVEN by their genitals as men are?!

    On the off chance that there are any feminazis or terminally beta males here: No phony outrage, please. ALL women know that sex is fun with or without orgasm. Isn’t it cool that we’re so different from men that way? 🙂

    This is still, at least nominally, a free country. Stop b!tchin’ about “choice” and let us actually CHOOSE.

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