After Bush Order, Florida Universities Cope with Shrinking Black Enrollment

Robert Samuels, Washington Post, April 6, 2015

As he courts Republicans across the country, Jeb Bush boasts that an executive order he signed that ended race-based college admissions in Florida upheld conservative principles while helping minorities.

“We ended up having a system where there were more African American and Hispanic kids attending our university system than prior to the system that was discriminatory,” the former governor and likely presidential contender said recently at a conference of conservative activists.

But at Florida’s two premier universities, black enrollment is shrinking. At the University of Florida in Gainesville and at Florida State University in Tallahassee, administrators say they worry that the trend risks diminishing their standing as world-class universities and hurts the college experience.

The black share of the UF freshman class, for instance, plunged to 6 percent in 2013, the most recent year for which data is available. That is down from 9 percent in 2011.

“If we don’t address this in the next two or three years, I think we’re going to have a problem,” said Brandon Bowden, assistant vice president for student affairs at Florida State, which had a 15 percent drop in the number of black freshmen enrolled between 2000 and 2009. “There will be so few black students on our campus that prospective students [who are black] will choose not to come here because they see no one who looks like them.”

Bush, who is expected to announce a presidential campaign this spring, is the only governor who has signed an order ending affirmative action. Seven other states ban race preferences, but all did so via referendum. Bush’s action in early 2000 thrust him into the forefront of a national debate that continues largely in the courts.

The growth in minority enrollment that Bush now points to is primarily a result of the state’s booming Hispanic population, which has led to a large increase in the share of Hispanic students attending Florida colleges. Between 2000 and 2013, the numbers of Hispanics, African Americans and members of other ethnic groups rose as the state university system got much bigger, with freshman enrollment up 35 percent.

But as a proportion of the overall student population, black enrollment has declined–most notably at UF and FSU. At the time Bush enacted the policy, black students made up 18 percent of all freshmen at Florida colleges. That had dropped to 15 percent by 2009.

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Nevertheless, the share of college-age Florida residents identifying themselves as black has remained about 20 percent, while blacks constituted just 13 percent of college freshmen in the state in 2013.

Black students at Florida universities are increasingly concentrated in the state’s lesser-known regional schools, which are in larger cities and have less stringent admissions requirements. The schools benefited from the system Bush enacted to replace affirmative action, which guaranteed spots in the state’s 11 universities to the top 20 percent of graduates from every high school.

Bush declined to comment through his spokeswoman, Kristy Campbell. She said Bush tried to boost minorities’ opportunities as governor by expanding college preparatory courses and creating a grant program that directed $23 million to help first-generation college students.

“Governor Bush established these programs because he believed it was an economic and moral imperative to ensure every student had the opportunity to achieve high expectations without being held to different standards based on racial preferences,” Campbell said. “Eliminating these preferences allowed students to succeed on their own merits, better preparing them for a competitive global economy.”

Yet, at UF, many black students wonder whether they will ever be judged on merit. Blacks have become such a rarity on campus that many say it is not unusual for strangers to ask whether they attend the nearby community college.

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Bush enacted his One Florida Initiative in 2000 as anti-affirmative-action activist Ward Connerly was gathering signatures to place a state constitutional amendment on Florida’s ballot. Already, Connerly had successfully led ballot initiatives in California and Washington state to ban racial preferences. In Texas, a court had banned affirmative action as well, although the Supreme Court would later invalidate that ruling.

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The order, which ended race preferences for college admissions and state contracting, sparked mass demonstrations by black lawmakers and students. Bush accused his critics of clinging to the past. “We will not take one step back in the struggle against racism and discrimination,” he said at the time. “The place we are heading is a place where opportunity is real and lasting, not false and forced by government.”

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  • Well, a broken clock…

    • stonepillow

      Good Point (no pun intended).

  • Luca

    He’s too focused on Hispanics anyway.

    • Realist

      As an “Honorary Hispanic”, he has no time for blacks, and who could blame him? I don’t. Black people may make a lot of noise, but they are of little concern to most people.

      • He’s smart. He knows blacks aren’t going to vote Republican, anyway.

        • Speedy Steve

          Trying to buy knee grow votes is a bad investment. It usually involves attending their churches and doling out cash.

        • Realist

          “He’s smart..”

          Right like his brother George.

      • Nonhumans

        …of little concern or any practical use…

    • Susannah

      Yep, according to that other article today, he’s a full-fledged Hispanic. And Hispanics don’t often care much for blacks.

    • John Smith

      It is the lesser evil if you are pandering to minority demographics.

    • Seniorsquadldr

      Look for Mexican to be the Official language of North Mexico (formerly known as the United States of America) inside of three years.

  • JohnEngelman

    But at Florida’s two premier universities, black enrollment is shrinking. At the University of Florida in Gainesville and at Florida State University in Tallahassee, administrators say they worry that the trend risks diminishing their standing as world-class universities and hurts the college experience.

    – Robert Samuels, Washington Post, April 6, 2015

    How does admitting unqualified blacks raise the standing of the University of Florida in Gainesville and Florida State University in Tallahassee as “world-class universities?”

    How does the presence of those blacks improve the college experience of college students who deserve to be there?

    • LHathaway

      Haven’t you heard? Diversity equals a commitment to excellence.

      • Gunter Mabuse

        Yes. Engleman is devoted to admitting Asians to increase diversity. Just ask him. Engleman will tell you that admitting Asians=diversity=a commitment to excellence at any school.

        • LHathaway

          Shut up.

    • Cid Campeador

      It doesn’t. With shrinking Black enrollment the campus will be a much safer place.

      • Seniorsquadldr

        And the GPA will sky rocket.

    • Avner Lipschitz, DDS

      The exact mechanism underpinning the “improved college experience” is not fully known. But experts in the field of African Studies claim it’s related to Juju Magic.
      I’m sure the people who actually live in Gainesville and Tallahassee are full of joy though.

      • Alden

        I bet rape went way down when black admissions went down

      • JohnEngelman

        Affirmative action reinforces racial prejudice. When the most intelligent black person you see is less intelligent than the least intelligent white person, you may make conclusions that are counter to the egalitarian agenda.

        That is unless you conclude that it is your fault that you cannot see the Emperor’s new clothes.

    • listenupbub

      They have no standing as “world-class universities” anyways. Moot point.

  • Jason Lewis

    Jeb did something that was actually good.

  • LHathaway

    How about ending the race preferences at Florida’s colleges that exclude White United Student groups from Every university there?

  • how about this

    “There will be so few black students on our campus that prospective students [who are black] will choose not to come here because they see no one who looks like them.”

    So is this admitting that Blacks themselves put a higher priority on being around other Blacks than getting a good education?

    • It’s also admitting that blacks know they cannot compete with white students.

      • stonepillow

        This is true. Some time ago I heard Blacks describe a neighborhood with a large number of Jewish families as “too competitive.” It’s always a factor in their thinking but then as Thomas Sowell points out from years of observation they’re always the last to get to the library to study and the first to leave.

        • libertarian1234

          Yes, and they have learned very little or nothing when it’s time to leave.

          And the reason for that is because they can’t.

        • Alden

          Hard to believe blacks know the meaning of the word competitive

          • stonepillow

            The occasion was a Christmas Party in an apt in Westchester, everyone on the floor was invited among which were two black professional couples one of which was trying to decide where in the country to buy a house …

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      Slots for college placements are finite.

      I believe it is more about keeping Whites out than helping blacks.

  • superlloyd

    ”Yet, at UF, many black students wonder whether they will ever be judged on merit. ” You are being judged on merit now, dimwits, and found to be badly wanting. This is hardly a surprise but it’s fair to all that merit trumps affirmative action which only lowers standards and discriminates against the better qualified whites and asians.

  • Pushing blacks into college is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. It doesn’t fit. So universities engage in pushing the faculty to engage in grade inflation via all sorts of roundabout trickery. Of course, the pony-tailed hippie profs and their hairy-legged feminists cohorts are inclined to give away grades to blacks to begin with.

    The whole system is corrupt. Never donate money to a university. It will go to nonsensical diversity initiatives and/or cultural Marxist professors inane research.

    • UCSC, my old alma mater is now only 37% white. With 20% Asian, that still leaves less than two thirds of the undergrads there as people who belong at a university (aside from janitors and landscaping crews).

      • Alden

        Santa Cruz is actually the. Whitest UC campus

  • LexiconD1

    Oh please, we did this in California too. It’s nothing new here. The blacks drop off the roles for a couple years, then the colleges go around the law to put them back where they don’t belong, again.

    Same issue, different day.

  • Jaggers

    Nice non-sequitur from the Washington Post: “Yet, at UF, many black students wonder whether they will ever be judged on merit.” That’s exactly how they’re being judged, hence their declining numbers.

    • Nonhumans

      Perhaps Negro Fatigue?

  • Olorin

    Let’s take a look at the numbers.

    > while blacks constituted just 13 percent of college freshmen in the state in 2013.

    Blacks constituted about 16.7 percent of Floridians in 2013. 3.2 million out of about 20 million.

    Seems to me that 13 percent of college freshmen being black is a huge overrepresentation. Even 6 percent, as the WaPo is wailing is the fraction of the state university freshmen, strikes me as high. Unless of course one follows the Ed Biz formula that seeks to make every class of college freshmen quota out to the general population. Which is an incredible waste of resources, and here’s why.

    Consider what is known for the past 50 years or more about black IQ distribution, wherein 85% of that sub-population can be expected to fall at IQ 100 or below and 96% at 110 or below.

    To put it another way, for any random black you meet, there is a 96% chance they do not have the IQ level necessary for college work. 110 is the threshold where college-level thinking begins–facility with reading and writing, gathering information independently, making inferences from it, and so on.

    Thus of any 100 blacks you meet at total random, across the bell curve, it is likely that only 4 have the intellectual gifts to attend and thrive in college.

    Thus of the 3.2 million blacks noted above, there are at best 128,000 who are likely to have college be anything other than failure.

    You can check my arithmetic on this, but it seems to me that works out to about .64% of the total population of Floridians.

    Looks like blacks are overrepresented by a factor of ten to twenty. Also costing everyone a lot of money and opportunity as they fail, or are passed without succeeding.

    • libertarian1234

      Because these leftist academics pass such a large percentage of unqualified blacks, and the white non-college educated whites who come in contact with them can see for themselves how pitifully inept they are, the universities are much less respected than they used to be, and a higher education is respected less than it used to be as well.

  • Deacon Blue

    Why is less Blacks at a university a “problem?”

    • Seniorsquadldr

      It is a good thing.

  • Does this mean that what were once institutes of higher learning now must cope with the dreadful prospect of fewer rapes on campus and fewer laptops and bicycles stolen? Gosh, golly: they’re going to heck in a handcart!

  • Alexandra1973

    “Coping” with shrinking black enrollment?

    Hm. I imagine plenty of people could “cope” with that!

    • Seniorsquadldr

      I could cope very well indeed, if every negro, was gone from America.

      • Nonhumans

        It would be tough (snicker) but I think that we could make the sacrifices and get through it (pfffft).

  • Luca

    Black enrollments plunging? This could be a real problem. They may have to lay-off some of the campus police.

    • Basketeddie

      And rape crisis counselors.

      • Nonhumans

        And don’t neglect the only dept/ study path that gives them their only real chance to graduate….. Libtarded Arts/ Africant Studies.

  • Vito Powers

    Check out this video on YouTube of black spring break

    Beardo’s Booty Babes – World’s Dumbest
    http://youtu.be/aFgjpaP_lTg

    • Hammerheart

      I don’t even understand what’s going on.

      Why does that guy have half of his face shaved?

      Who is that black girl bending over having a seizure?

      How come the girls are more aggressive than the men?

      Why wasn’t one single, decent punch thrown? They were just wind milling?

      Who was that random chunky white girl?

      So many questions

      • Herman

        You are looking for rational answers?

  • hastings88

    “There will be so few black students on our campus that prospective students [who are black] will choose not to come here because they see no one who looks like them.”

    Yeah, so? They have that choice.

  • libertarian1234

    “There will be so few black students on our campus that prospective students [who are black] will choose not to come here because they see no one who looks like them.”

    Well, wouldn’t that be a racist attitude if they displayed such a bias? Aren’t you encouraging racism? ( Yes, Bowden is black. Doesn’t that kind of reasoning tell us that?)

    And Bowden, old boy, aren’t you agreeing that the only way blacks can get into a university, then passed, then certified, is to “give” them AA for entry, grading and certification?

    And doesn’t certifying unqualified people reflect horribly on the school?

    But, on second thought, there’s no way this lying black cares about the school’s image. His number one concern is pushing blacks through by any means necessary. He couldn’t care less about qualifications. He just wants to be able to brag that record numbers of blacks graduated, then he can lie about qualifications later, charging anyone with racism if they complain that the black dregs can read and write only on the level of a high school freshman…..or less…..and do math on an even lower level.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Jeb Bush boasts that an executive order he signed that ended race-based college admissions in Florida upheld conservative principles…

    Hey Jeb! — Do those conservative principles include honoring Hillary Clinton with a Liberty Medal from the National Constitution Center?

    Do those conservative values include support for amnesty and Commie Core?

    “I won’t run from Common Core, even if GOP does…”Common Core is the right thing to do for our country.”

    How about when you said: “Supper with kids keeps them away from drugs & booze.”

    Gov. Jeb Bush’s 25-year-old daughter, Noelle Bush, was found with what was believed to be crack cocaine at a rehabilitation center, the police said. If confirmed, it would be the second lapse for Ms. Bush since she entered court-ordered drug rehab.

    You are nothing more than an anti-White phony, no different from Hillary Clinton.

    • John Smith

      He just panders to a different non-white demo.

      • Seniorsquadldr

        We whites allow it. It is our fault, we have lost our once great republic.

    • Martel

      Immigrants may have registered more often at the chamber of commerce then native-born Americans. Shell companies and money laundering.

  • “There will be so few black students on our campus that prospective students [who are black] will choose not to come here because they see no one who looks like them.”
    Has that ever stopped them before?

    • Chasmania

      To my ear that sounded like the guy said – paraphrasing of course – ” Blacks are so racist they won’t even come to a target rich environment like our University unless they have enough numbers to stage a good chimp out type riot ! “

    • Not in white neighborhoods.

  • Gee. Blacks won’t be as attracted to Florida colleges. The horror!

  • “hurts the college experience.” The administrators must be referring to the “experience” of being raped or murdered. If a black student is good enough to get in on his own merit, then so be it. But there’s not benefit to having more blacks on campus, only detriments.

  • belajadevotchka2

    So, are they admitting that without special treatment and without giving them university slots merely based on skin colour, blacks wouldn’t or couldn’t be in schools?

  • John Smith

    “…administrators say they worry that the trend risks diminishing their
    standing as world-class universities and hurts the college experience.”

    Who the hell are they kidding?

    • Chasmania

      That’s just knee jerk, progressive genuflecting. Surprised they didn’t throw in something about how white privilege was the ‘culprit’ .

    • archer

      Exactly, well chalk at least one up for Jebby, but I still think he will be a disaster.

  • Seniorsquadldr

    Apartheid is the only answer. A tribal homeland for Negros. Every school will be full of people who “look” like them. No demon whites trying to force civilization on them. Mississippi is the most logical choice, for the Negro homeland. The crushing white guilt can be lifted from the infected whites. Wiggers can be encouraged to seek Political asylum in the Negro homeland. The wigger is a Negro trapped in a white body. They identify with their negro bro’s en ho’s, not civilized people.

  • Hammerheart

    “There will be
    so few black students on our campus that prospective students [who are
    black] will choose not to come here because they see no one who looks
    like them.”

    LOL, sometimes, they let slip a nugget of truth. The eternal struggle of the white tax payer.

    • If they want an environment filled with people who look like them, the Florida state department of corrections is a far cheaper solution than college.

  • Earl P. Holt III

    Let’s be fair: Jeb Bush made the world significantly safer for our DAUGHTERS…!

  • LiberalismFailed

    If blacks are not going to be given racial preferences to attend the best universities, then who is going to fill all those well paying job posts in the Fortune 500 companies reserved for black people under their diversity/inclusion hiring protocol?

  • This will make degrees from Florida universities more desirable for everyone else and make the graduates more attractive to potential employers.

  • voiceofstl

    Being in the top %20 of a inner city compared to the top %20 of a suburban school…..think about. Whites are still being discriminated.

  • ElComadreja

    Blacks never could and never will be able to compete on a level playing field.

    • Blackfish

      That’s where they CAN compete. The classroom is another story. . .

    • libertarian1234

      You’re right, but believe me they have self-images so inflated they see themselves as superior to anyone else. They’re blinded by their own stupidity.

      That’s part of the reason why such a large percentage of them want to go to college, even though they can’t understand course material on most EVERY subject, and why they reject manual labor. They think it’s too lowly for anyone so superior as themselves to stoop to that kind of work.

      So when these white weenies tell them the only reason they aren’t rocket scientists, psychiatrists, Pulitzer Prize winners, and the like, it enrages them to the point of insanity. And, yes, they’re delusional, too.

      And when they go berserk with their mouths, screaming hysterically that whitey destroyed all the evidence of their past greatness as the beacons of enlightenment, accomplishment, and superior intelligence throughout history, it’s pretty easy for anybody to see that they have a natural propensity toward paranoia to add to their many pathologies.

  • Earl Turner

    Only in Amurrica is it considered a bad thing to not have enough negroes.

  • Earl Turner

    “There will be so few black students on our campus that prospective
    students [who are black] will choose not to come here because they see
    no one who looks like them.”

    Or acts like them. Let’s be honest here.

  • listenupbub

    Why waste so much taxpayer’s money on a bunch of Florida party schools? Politicians are such shysters.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    ‘Blacks have become such a rarity on campus that many say it is not unusual for strangers to ask whether they attend the nearby community college…’
    I do not see anything wrong with blacks becoming a rarity.

  • PissedOffScientist

    When it comes to Africans in universities…. the fewer the better, an education, especially a taxpayer funded education is a terrible thing to waste on the negro.

  • De’Ontavious Jizzaiah Jones

    I worked for the State of FL for 12 years. Many of the blacks hired for investigator positions were completely unable to write or speak standard written English despite having college degrees. It got so bad at one point that Judges at court complained about the poor quality of the investigators reports and briefly the chain of command floated the idea that attorneys should begin writing the investigator’s reports for them. Dinesh D’Souza really needs to update a new edition of Illiberal Education. That was the best report I have ever read breaking down the numbers of how few actually well qualified black students there are nationwide and how absurd it is for so many colleges to try to recruit from this small pool to try to make their student body reflect percentage of blacks in population.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    I remember when Bush II was accused of being a cocaine user and alcoholic – yet Bill Clinton (cocaine) and Obama (choom)’s drug use were dismissed.

    I wish you’d get a disqus account – your replies do not show up in my e mail or main disqus feed – only “replies” which I rarely check.