Immigration Is No Fix for an Aging Society

Center for Immigration Studies, March 13, 2015

Some have argued for large-scale immigration on the grounds that it will make the U.S. population much younger. But those who study demographics have long known that immigration has only a small impact on slowing the aging of society. Further, a new analysis of government data by the Center for Immigration Studies shows that immigrant fertility is declining faster than native fertility, making the impact even smaller.

“Those, like Jeb Bush, who assert that ‘immigrants are more fertile’ and as a result they will ‘rebuild the demographic pyramid’ are grossly exaggerating the impact of immigration,” stated Dr. Steven Camarota, the Center’s Director of Research. “Immigration’s impact on the aging of American society is actually quite small, and the rapid decline in immigrant fertility means it’s getting even smaller.”

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• The birth rate for women in their reproductive years (ages 15 to 50) declined more than twice as much for immigrants as natives between 2008 and 2013.

• The birth rate for immigrant women of reproductive age declined from 76 to 62 births per thousand from 2008 to 2013–a decline of 14 births per thousand. In contrast, native fertility declined from 55 births per thousand to 50 births per thousand–a decline of five births per thousand.

• Although still higher than that of natives, immigrant fertility has only a small impact on the nation’s overall birth rate. The presence of immigrants raises the birth rate for all women in their reproductive years by just two births per thousand (4 percent).

• Immigration has a small impact because the difference between immigrant and native fertility is too small to significantly change the nation’s overall birth rate.

• Even if the number of immigrant women 15 to 50 doubled along with births to this population, it would still only raise the nation’s overall birth rate by 3 percent.

• In addition to births per thousand, fertility is often measured using the total fertility rate (TFR). The TFR reports the number of children a woman can be expected to have in her lifetime based on current patterns.

• Like the birth rate, the TFR of immigrants has declined more rapidly than the TFR for natives since 2008. In 2008, immigrant women had a TFR of 2.75 children; by 2013 it had fallen to 2.22–a .53 child decline. For natives it declined from 2.07 to 1.79–a .28 child decline.

• Like births per thousand, the presence of immigrants in the country has only a small impact on the nation’s overall TFR. In 2013, immigrants only increased the nation’s overall TFR by .08 children (4 percent).

• If present trends continue, the TFR of immigrants may drop below 2.1 in the next few years, the level necessary to replace the existing population. An immigrant TFR of less than 2.1 would mean that, in the long run, immigration would add to the aging of American society.

• Although immigration has only a small impact on overall fertility and aging, it has a significant impact on population size. For example, new immigrants and births to immigrants between 2000 and 2013 added 26.2 million people to the country–equal to 77 percent of U.S. population growth over this time period.

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  • Median age and TFR doesn’t matter as much to me as does racial demographics.

  • Mack0

    Yeah, importing a large permanent underclass who take more from benefits than contribute sure seems like a bright idea.

    • connorhus

      It only makes sense when you swallow the progressive/Feminist koolaid that all races and people are equal. Of course EVERY politician believes that no matter what party and that is how they approach immigration. A simple numbers game.

    • Weisheit77

      The greatest flaw of democracy is its inability to think past the next election cycle. It’s a short term fix that will only exacerbate the problem. But I’m convinced the people at the top know this. The system isn’t broken for whom it matters.

    • Charles Martel

      Haven’t you heard of “equality”

      • Jade1

        It is not about equality pal.

  • Brady

    No fault divorce, abortion on demand and promotion of sodomy are all anti-natalist policies that push the birth rate down. Plus as a culture, so many of us see life as something to be gotten through, preferably with as many pleasant distractions as possible, without taking into consideration the legacy left to the next generation. So many of us are not having children.

    • cyrusthevirus

      And race traitor white feminists havent helped –what man with any ambition or sense would consider marriage to many of these women when a life destroying divorce is always on the cards!

      • Not to mention child support payments and alimony payments, with the added bonus of going to jail for not supporting the very people that hate you. That is what marriage means to many men and why fewer are getting married and having kids.

        • Weisheit77

          Not to mention the sexual history of some of these skanks. Who wants to marry someone whose sex life has been a mixture of “It’s a small world after all” and “50 shades of grey”?

          • meanqueen

            Mmm, hmmm, and just who are all the men contributing to the creation of skanks? Remember what mama always said “If you want to marry a virgin, be sure to leave a few around.”

          • Weisheit77

            I’m not a man whore, but why buy the cow when you get the milk for free.

            I hate what mass media has done with our Sexual culture.

        • meanqueen

          It’s terribly sad and criminal that many mothers will not support a relationship between their children and the children’s father. It’s one of the greatest “family crimes” of our century. Fathers are important.
          My response to John Smith above fits better here so I’ll but and paste:
          ******

          I agree with you. A divorce settlement can be very unfair for a woman, but more often, it’s unfair for the man. Because he has to work and the kids usually live with the mother, he doesn’t have the time or energy resources to put into keeping his relationship with his kids up unless the ex wife is supportive and helps with that, and many don’t, either because they’re selfish bitches or because they are too emotionally hurt to put their own pain aside for the sake of their children, who need a father. (sorry, run on sentence!) Also don’t assume that all women get the house, the car, the kids, alimony and child support. I didn’t get any of that, and settled for joint custody. Because my salary was a bit higher than his, he was absolved of paying for anything. Maybe that’s “fair” from a strictly economical standpoint, but just bear it in mind before assuming that all women make out like bandits in a divorce. Some of us had another dependent child on our hands for many years and then the only financial advantage we won was cutting loose excess baggage.

        • Viking_61

          You can thank the liberal Jewish and liberal feminist judges for turning American divorces into a half trillion dollar industry.

      • John Smith

        It explains why many men are looking at foreign brides, usually from Asia, some from Eastern Europe – both areas where the doctrine hasn’t taken so deep a root as of yet.

      • Sick of it

        Who would want to listen to such a harpy on a daily basis? An idiot in my opinion.

    • Jason Lewis

      I blame men. Most women want mariage and family.

      • LexiconD1

        I think it’s a combination of a lot of different reasons.

      • John Smith

        Men might be more willing if they thought it would last and they wouldn’t get cleaned out. Marriage has pretty much become just an expensive and unsatisfying form of long-term prostitution in current society from the male perspective, particularly since women initiate most divorces.

        • Sick of it

          It’s not even long term prostitution. I know a guy who was divorced after less than a year.

        • Jason Lewis

          Yes the courts are not on our side.

        • meanqueen

          I agree with you. A divorce settlement can be very unfair for a woman, but more often, it’s unfair for the man. Because he has to work and the kids usually live with the mother, he doesn’t have the time or energy resources to put into keeping his relationship with his kids up unless the ex wife is supportive and helps with that, and many don’t, either because they’re selfish bitches or because they are too emotionally hurt to put their own pain aside for the sake of their children, who need a father. (sorry, run on sentence!) Also don’t assume that all women get the house, the car, the kids, alimony and child support. I didn’t get any of that, and settled for joint custody. Because my salary was a bit higher than his, he was absolved of paying for anything. Maybe that’s “fair” from a strictly economical standpoint, but just bear it in mind before assuming that all women make out like bandits in a divorce. Some of us had another dependent child on our hands for many years and then the only financial advantage we won was cutting loose excess baggage.

      • Charles Martel

        Feminism makes them want to put that off until they are too told to get a man or have kids. After 35 women’s fertility drops like a rock.

    • John Smith

      Some folks must be easily suggestible, because a man’s rectum would never even remotely incentivize me to switch from women, no matter how much favorable publicity it got, but maybe I’m just strange and prejudiced that way.

      • Sick of it

        Thus they are teaching kindergartners about gay sex. You have to change the way people think from a young age.

        • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

          Yes they are very impressionable and easy to change at that age.

  • TruthBeTold

    that immigrant fertility is declining faster than native fertility, making the impact even smaller.

    Reading this I fear the proposed solution will be to import immigrants with high birth rates like Muslims and Africans.

    • cyrusthevirus

      Of course –and when the West has been made into a third world shithole the job of the Agenda 21 elite will be made that much easier in reducing population rapidly–think of how many interesting diseases you can import !

    • Cecil Broomsted

      That is their solution. They imagine their factories filled with low-cost labour.

      • John Smith

        Iron Law of Wages.

  • Susannah

    I have a very hard time believing some of this. The presence of immigrants only raises the birth rate by about 4%? Then exactly who is responsible for the explosion of non-White births over the past twenty years or so, to the point where White children are only about 50% of children overall in the nation? In many regions of America there is quite a visible decline in the number of White children. What is really going on here?

    • cyrusthevirus

      There were rumours years ago that in some third world countries contraception was put into drinking water–dont know if it was feasible but who knows ????

    • corvinus

      Only 4% now. It was much, much higher before the recession hit.

      • Susannah

        Lest I forget, many currently procreating non-Whites are now classified as “natives.” Many anchor babies are among those now breeding.

    • Remember “natives” include blacks, as well as Hispanics who were born here, not just Whites. That sort of puts a monkey wrench (Uhh, no pun intended!) into the figures. No wonder the “native” Americans are having almost as many kids as the immigrants.

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

        Non whites will NEVER be American.

  • connorhus

    The politicians aren’t worried about the birthrate of the third worlders they let in after they get here. They are only worried about the numbers they can get right now.They want as many as they can get because they bought into the “We are all equal” and “Race is a social construct” meme so it’s all about numbers. They need at least 6 working stiffs for every retired person and they are not going close the borders or stop immigration until they get it.

    Problem is what they are letting in costs more than they produce and before too long ol’Juan is going to refuse to pay for old White people’s retirement.

    • Jason Lewis

      The year 2050. A ninety year old white former politician sitting in his own filth in an alley homeless says “It looked good on paper”.

      • John Smith

        He’d be beaten to death by his “chilluns” well before he got that old.

    • SentryattheGate

      And yet they’re bringing in older immigrants, who go right on to Social Security! Meanwhile Younger Americans are told not to expect Social Security when they get old; that the system is broken.

      • connorhus

        They bring in the older ones as baggage which is why they push the family immigration thing. I believe they figure the old ones bring with em a horde of offspring that way.

      • Sick of it

        They have programs for the kids too. And yes, I get to pay for it while I know I will never receive a dime of it back.

    • Weisheit77

      And in my mind the whole white privilege, “you didn’t build it”, social justice thing is laying the ideological ground work to deprive whites of their retirements.

      • Jason Lewis

        That “you didnt build it” thing is really big. I keep hearing people saying whites didnt create/invent anything they stole everything they have. I even heard a soldier say the Afgans repeat that mantra.

        • Susannah

          Yes, and amazingly, after stealing everything from those brilliant and enterprising non-Whites, Whites then proceeded to render them all incapable of ever replicating their dazzling achievements in the future, or creating more marvels of technology and culture. I wonder how these intellectual giants would respond to that.

        • Screamin_Ruffed_Grouse

          I’ve heard that tripe a lot, usually from white fools. My response is always “what did the primitives have to steal?” Responses are rare.

      • connorhus

        Well they already have used it. I know of at least three formerly White cities that once they turned Black basically walked away from their pension obligations. You rarely hear about them though only the cities like Detroit that try when their members are mostly Black.

        • John Smith

          Cincinnati will be one of the next, since they pay the retirees at nearly full salary when retired plus guaranteed increases yearly. City is shrinking in population (under 300K), yet they spend more than when the city had 500K, much on police and corrections. Over $1B in debt.

  • Lumping all immigrants together is dishonest. I drive by the San Antonio junior high school and watch all the little 14 year old mexicans and their gang banger boy friends and I know you can’t lump em all together. Mexicans breed like rabbits, according to what I see.

    I like the premise of the article because clearly these parasites aren’t going to give a **** about old white men and elderly white ladies. The flaw in the piece is that the type of immigrant matters. Immigrant Einsteins might innovate and push the country back to greatness.

    Juan and Obongo’s relatives will pull it down. The author doesn’t even talk about that.

    • SentryattheGate

      Pull it down is correct! Juan and Obongo’s relatives have the highest rates of diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and dementia which will cost US BIG-time!

    • connorhus

      Not only will they pull it down they will vote in death panels and pension reductions once they have a majority.

      Going to be a lot of surprised people soon.

    • meanqueen

      What’s going to happen when you’re elderly and vulnerable and all the nursing home staff are low IQ, race mongering blacks and hispanics? I’ve been thinking about this a great deal. Not where I want to end up.

  • Chip Carver

    The need for more people is as bogus as the myth created (for nefarious and related reasons) that businesses have to show a certain type of growth of every year. Which is tied into inflation which is tied to the Fed and our Fiat money system and … this could go on and on, and in the end most of it is tied to the same people who wish to eradicate or marginalize Whites and destroy the West.

    • Sick of it

      We do need more people – More white people. The rest are too numerous considering that they cannot even provide for themselves.

  • Recent immigrant women tend to have higher TFRs because they are homesick. The reason that immigrant women had even higher TFRs during the middle to end of the last decade than they do in the middle of this decade is that the subprime mortgage circus created a lot of work opportunities for immigrants.

    One canard the open borders lobby loves is that border surges will save Social Security and Medicare. I blew through that several years ago.

    https://countenance.wordpress.com/2006/12/26/when-50-billion-isnt-as-much-as-it-seems/

    https://countenance.wordpress.com/2006/12/27/doubting-the-50-billion-thomas/

  • Jason Lewis

    Why can’t society just tell it’s people we need more kids? Russia does. Putin promotes the hell out of it. Japan, even though it’s population is shrinking, doesnt allow third world immigration. In 100 years Russia will look like Russia and Japan like Japan. America will look like _____________.

    • corvinus

      …Brazil.

      • John Smith

        At least Brazil seems to still allow its European ethnic groups to self-segregate if they wish.

        • newscomments70

          They have recently instituted forced integration into their unversities. They have AA now.

    • SentryattheGate

      Idiocracy!

    • connorhus

      The Feminist would only hear “Women’s Work”.

    • Because Russia and Japan weren’t infected with the disease of LIBERALISM! For the last fifty or more years our media, news outlets, and educational institutions have been beating the same message tens of thousands of times: All races are equal; we are one race, the human race; we are only different colors; all the problems of non-whites are caused by white racism; immigrants built America; we are all immigrants….and so on and so on….It was insidious. Japan, by contrast, was democratic, but the Japanese knew their nation was for THEIR PEOPLE! Ditto the Russians. The Communist propaganda was never nearly as effective as liberal propaganda. Sorry about the rant, but your comment strikes at the very heart of the problem and why we are here on this site.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      Why command anyone to do anything? You could raise the white birthrate by simply curtailing wealth redistributive fiscal policies.

  • David Ashton

    The danger here is that immigration supporters will demand more immigrants from fecund families and regions to keep the Ponzi Scheme going. In the UK it is immigration that has been the main factor in population increase in recent years. The main thing is for whites, and especially the most able sections among them, to keep up their own birth-rates in every hitherto white country.

  • cherrie greenbaum123

    Not to mention the fact that the very last thing we need in this country are more indigent black and brown mouths to feed.

    • Magician

      The only countries that are willing to send the white countries immigrants are countries with citizens who will hardly contribute to the society except an increase in the crime rate.

  • Cecil Broomsted

    The old corporatist lie about the absolute necessity of having immigrants (racial aliens) to replace the aging white population is still alive and well. To hear them tell it, the nation will cease to exist, ghost towns and tumble weeds blowing across empty streets is the image they put forth.

    The nation will not die. Look at Germany for instance. Thousands of years without Islamic hordes and Africans and it still exists. Japan is still around and doing well. Age demographics run in cycles. Economies expand and shrink accordingly. It is not the end of the world.

    On the other hand, flooding any nation with racial aliens will permanently alter or destroy it. Wars, famine, plague, and poverty can all be overcome. Racial dissolution is the death of a nation.

    • TruthBeTold

      Europe lost half its’ population to the Black Death and soon after produced the Renaissance.

      The problem is not population loss. The problem is modern economic theory which in every aspect is a Ponzi scheme.

      • Cecil Broomsted

        That is correct. Two interesting case studies which have demonstrated the consequences of racial dissolution are ancient Egypt and South Africa. Both began the same way — allowing in massive numbers of racially alien immigrants as sources of cheap labour.

      • Weisheit77

        I’m with you on that one. I lay most of the blame on open doors, race based socialism-light combined with today’s economic thought (Keynes). As someone else said the unfunded pensions out there mixed with the previous two reasons I’ve mentioned have us on the Highway to Hell. It’s almost as if a system that is designed to save individuals from a “rainy day” never planned for a rainy day itself.

    • connorhus

      Reduced population wouldn’t bother you and I but the politicians looking at all those Trillions of unfunded pension liabilities lay awake at night sweating over the thought.

      To them, and the loss of all that power it is the end of the world and that is why we cannot get the Federal government to follow the will of the people even with it is for once ALL the people.

      Japan has gotten so bad, I read an article recently about a Woman who was so tired of the ghost town her village had become she started making life sized dolls and placing them all over the place.

    • The Dude

      Both Europe and Japan have indeed gone into periods of shrinking population, and that in itself it wasn’t catastrophic. However, it wasn’t due to low fertility; it was due to either war, poverty, or plagues.

      Fertility has never been cyclical, anywhere nor any time in history. The only thing that has ever controlled population numbers was the mortality rate. Before the Industrial Revolution, women would have an average of 7 kids, and only 3 of those would reach adulthood. The infant mortality rate susbtantially decreased at the advent of vaccines and industrialisation, and this led to a fast increase in the European and European-settled populations, despite the neverending wars.

      However this came to a halt with modern contraception and modern materialistic life. The number of children could then be controlled and people could afford to replace the additional children with stuff they could buy to make their lives more comfortable (cars, better houses, etc.). Not judging here, I am materialistic myself. Higher literacy and education also meant more people started thinking more critically, plan ahead better, and became more cautious in the number of children they would have.

      The same happened in Japan.

      The difference between the population decrease of yesteryear and that of today is that, in the former, people were still produced in big numbers despite the die-offs, while in the latter, it’s the production itself that has gotten below the replacement rate, and that’s a precedent in history.

      I don’t know if we should focus on stemming the flow of Third-World immigrants from countries still reproducing (far) beyond replacement level, on bringing down their fertility levels to ours, or bringing up ours. Probably the three of those.

      • Cecil Broomsted

        Interesting observations, however I must say that in the U.S. alone there have been wide swings in the fertility rate. For example, the TFR fell sharply during the 1930s with the Great Depression then rose dramatically after WWII and then began dropping again in the mid 1960s. Given our current trajectory and ignoring the immigration nightmare for the moment, we would have an overall decrease in our population as us oldies die off, but this would stabilise after a while and, hopefully, the TFR would again increase at some point in the future.

        For now, my suggestion would be to halt all non-European immigration and then take and deal with the economic blows that follow. I would rather see our people living a more humble lifestyle and still have our shared culture and traditions rather than literally being replaced by those foreign to us.

        • The Dude

          I’m not sure about the wide swings in the fertility rate. There has been a marked increase following WWII in both Europe and America, but after that, the drop remained steady. I don’t know how sharp the decline was during the Crash, but the one that followed the 2008 Crisis was pretty modest.

          Here’s a graph of the U.S. fertility rates from 1960 to 2012. I added some other European and non-European countries for the sake of comparison.

          Concerning your last parapgraph, absolutely. I’d rather we live a more modest life than see the country turn into the United Nations. We’ll figure something out eventually. The Japanese are not taking that easy way out and are doing everything they can to keep their economy afloat with such low fertility while trying to increase the birth rates. And so can we.

        • meanqueen

          Our standard of living is SO high that we could drop pretty far before we hit the danger zone. It’s just a matter of people adjusting to the new reality, of maybe not having a car instead of having four cars, of living in a smaller house, of wearing a few clothes that last years instead of buying a new wardrobe of trash every season, of playing outside instead of having GameBoy and Nintendo. A big economic collapse is probably going to happen anyway, with or without Mexicans and Somalians.

          • Jade1

            So high??? Not anymore pal. Have you taken a look at the salaries lately? They are at the year 2000 level because we have too many people competing for jobs and a lot of them are illegals!

          • meanqueen

            You’re right that things have been bad for a few years now and the decline has already happened for many families. I meant that many people could downsize and simplify dramatically and “make it” on a lower salary before they are homeless and starving. Compared to the rest of the world, even our poor citizens are doing well. Because everything is relative, our citizens who used to be doing very well are now feeling the pain of income loss. But how many are starving and homeless? People need to bone up on survival skills, gather valuable and useful items now, stop buying leisure gadgets and wasting money, learn how to grow a garden and sew clothes, etc.

  • pcmustgo

    IS that a good thing? I suppose on Amren yes… Pay Native Europeans to breed!

    • The Dude

      It usually drops but it’s still higher than that of the natives. And keep in mind that blacks and Hispanics (a third of the population combined) are included in “native citizens”, both of which have a fertility rate that is already higher than the white one. So if you compare fertility rate of first-generation immigrants even after they settle with the white one alone, it probably is still susbtantially higher.

    • Who Me?

      “Pay Native Europeans to breed!”
      ——————–
      Hey! Why not? We already pay the blacks and browns to breed.

    • Jason Lewis

      It takes our men stepping up and marrying one woman and allowing her to be a stay at home mom. Do without having three cars and five televisions.

      • John Smith

        The old Mormon strategy probably works better….

        • IstvanIN

          Polygamy? Not such a good idea.

          • John Smith

            Better than a bunch of DINKs for the white race.

          • meanqueen

            What’s your objection to polygamy?

  • listenupbub

    There is one really good solution to the white birth rate: intergenerational households. I know you guys will hate it, but this is how the Hispanics do it, and this is how the Italians did it, and this is how many humans for a long time did it.

    If we cut off immigration and gave incentives for reproducing, and if whites were serious enough about survival to *gasp* live with their kids, we could keep the birth rates up.

    • IstvanIN

      The Portuguese in North Jersey are really big on either building new two and three family homes or rehabing old ones.

    • Jade1

      Kids living with their parents is already happening due to the lousy economy.

      • listenupbub

        Yes, and I believe this economy is here to stay. We might have to have grandkids living with them if we are serious about survival.

  • listenupbub

    The birth rate craze is misguided. The whole point of immigration is more consumers and workers to drive up corporate profits and make our stocks/economy look strong, and to line the pockets of the big money donors. They ain’t donating millions without getting back gazillions.

    The funny thing is that hispanics have a shadow economy that brings a lot of the money they earn back to hispanic countries anyways. Have you seen all those hispanic shops, grocery stores, markets, businesses, in the hispanic towns? Asians do the same, to a lesser extent. They don’t buy many American products, and go to Asian grocery stores.

    • Bo_Sears

      This is probably true. We are told that immigrants will be producers of wealth, but manufacturers & retailers seem to support large numbers of immigration to get new consumers. The new immigrants will not be helpful to anyone but merchants who seek new customers, and who seek to place the burden the immigrants become on taxpayers.

  • So Jeb Bush thinks that the immigrants will invigorate our country and keep our demographics the same? How dumb is he? (Rhetorical question.) Yeah, like a Mexican mestizo, or a black Haitian, a Somali, or a mulatto Dominican are the exact same as a Scandinavian, a German, or an Irishman? Geeze, what an idiot! And yes, sadly, and it pains me to admit this, but whatever else, Barrack Obama is even smarter than that. Even Barry Obama knows that there IS a difference between these groups. He knows it all too well. They seriously need an IQ test for presidents.

  • WR_the_realist

    The last thing we need to do is “rebuild the demographic pyramid” with blacks and Mestizos. I hope to see the fertility of immigrants drop to 0.

    • IstvanIN

      A pyramid unlikely to stand for 5,000 years like those in Egypt.

    • Light from the East

      A non-violent way to wipe out a race within a century – sterilization.

      There are many ways to do it. Letting them eat GMO designed to trigger the process of damaging their reproductive DNA upon negroid or Amerindian gene is one of many solutions.

    • meanqueen

      Not gonna happen. The Mexicans marry at 15 (or rather, they used to marry – now they just “hook up) and don’t use contraception. There will be some percentage that adopt the ways of liberal Americans, but there will still be plenty who breed like rabbits.

      • Ella

        When there are monetary incentives, of course, the lower-IQ Mexicans will breed with no doubt.

  • Moooochelle

    Like we need more low-IQ welfare kids in this country?!

  • Susannah

    It’s in the article. I thought it seemed unbelievably low, even considering some of those fecund Hispanics are classified as “natives”, many of those are anchor babies. And you’re right. Whether immigrant or “native”, they are the ones having the babies. Even though it’s claimed their fertility rate has fallen, it’s still way too high, and ours is way too low.

  • John Smith

    Synthetic estrogen – supposedly our environment is full of it now as a by-product of plastics production and industrial synthesis. It would go a long way toward explaining all the girlie-men nowadays.

    • meanqueen

      Yes. But generally what happens is that environmental assaults diminish fertility or narrow the window of fertility, so it most affects those women who are in their late twenties, thirties, early forties. Fertility in teens and early twenty somethings is usually so robust that it can maintain itself enough to allow reproduction, even under terrible assault. Which group has babies in their teens and early twenties? Which group has babies (or attempts to have them) in their thirties and early forties? You would have to come up with something less subtle to knock out teen fertility.

  • Ella

    I wonder how many nonwhite immigrants are too young to breed or not at their preferred age to start a family. Many are still under 18 yrs. old.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    We need the whites to have kids and not depend on non whites to increase the population.

    • Bill Moore

      Hello Americaandthewestshouldbewhite,

      There is nothing wrong with a reduced population, as long as it would remain all Caucasian.

      The ill-conceived notion that bringing in non-whites to keep the population expanding should be dropped.

      Bill Moore

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

        Well Bill, if you want to reduce your family be my guest. If white do not have more kids, then when another wave of liberalism and feminism takes over, there will be no white people left.

        • meanqueen

          Not if we develop Japan’s attitude, or the Jews for that matter. Both are fine with being a small people, but they know the difference between “us and them.”

          • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

            That is true, but if you have seen in the past whites used to be 35% of the population and now they are only 8%. So being small will only cause whites to disappear.

          • meanqueen

            Eight percent, are you kidding me?? Is this percentage of whites within the world population? OMG. Okay, I take back everything I said. We need to GROW.

  • 李冠毅

    Yes, it’s well documented that rising standards of living will cause an initial population drop. People in China and Europe used to have several children, mainly due to high infant mortality rates as well as having more people to help with the farm work. As these societies modernize, and shift from manual labor to information based work, having many children becomes more costly than beneficial. Now, even in China with its one-child policy, more and more urban Chinese are having less and less children. Another notable thing is that in most modernized societies, male children does not provide a noticeable advantage over female children, which may account for China’s waning preference for male children.

    • Batterytrain

      I think that growth of standard of living and growth in the technology sector should be halved and carefully put off for later, in times of likely migration or invasion of foreigners. I think that in some cases, growth just means having the likely possibility that everyone will have a shinier car and a flat screen TV then previous times and especially when it concerns notions such as modern growth.

      Priorities need to be set, and we don’t need extraneous growth just for superficial unnecessary economic growth that a population doesn’t need to keep it’s population/identity/culture/civilization intact; which is the main problem with today’s junk economic theories put preached by Jews as gospel. This I believe is the key to the preservation of the High-average IQ civilizations and the West and the key problem behind most of the West’s cycles of growth and boom/busts.

      In order to preserve the West and most of the High-IQ civilizations of modern times, what needs to happen is that we have to artificially put in a growth cap and standard ceiling so that civilizations DO NOT PURSUE UNNECESSARY ECONOMIC GROWTH (Ipads, flat-screen TV’s, Shiny car etc) AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR MAIN POPULATION BASE AND CIVILIZATION.

      The best example of my idea is the Amish, the Amish are one of the few Western populations that have been having regular birthrates without much in periods of decline as the rest of the Western world. The Amish live healthy, eat fresh food and have good living standards healthwise then the rest of the “advanced” West despite shunning most of the modern technology. They have effectively put a cap on modernism such that it doesn’t jeopardize their main culture or their fertility rates.

      THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD! We have to have a period of completely and utterly maximizing birthrates and population by putting a voluntary artificial cap on technological and economical growth that is not necessary to actually generate population growth of Western populations or for the preservation of it’s cultural ethos. This can also be accomplished by switching from different specialized economies that have an emphasis on regular population replacement growth (Amish, Hanseatic league, guilds, craftsmen based economy etc you get the picture).

      Once population growth has been maximized within the available parameters of a modern civilization’s capacity; then we can have unnecessary economic growth with the possibility of a declining cycle of birth rate PROVIDED THAT THE PERIOD OF SAID POPULATION MAXIMIZATION CYCLE HAS OFFSET ANY SPACE OR NEED OF FUTURE IMMIGRATION OF FOREIGNERS! WE ALSO NEED TO COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY SEAL THE BORDER AND CONDUCT ALL COMMERCIAL AND SOCIAL ACTIVITY WITH OTHERS BY SEA!

      Also high-IQ/bright/creative/talented/clever/ingenious/inventive/gifted/builders of modern civilization people don’t need junk like I-pads/Iphones/flatscreens in order to do what they do best, There is a misconception and intentional manipulated propaganda that in order for a population base to have mostly higher then average IQ per person, we have to pursue modernism and this cycle of superficial unnecessary economic (I.E flat screen TV’s, Iphones, Ipads, consoles, shiny cars etc) for that to be accomplished.

      THIS IS FALSE! Infact a lot of the SMARTEST AND BRIGHTEST PEOPLE OF THE MODERN AGE CAME FROM A FARMING/AGRICULTURAL/RURAL/LABOR/NON-URBAN/NON-CITY STATE/SMALL TOWN-VILLAGE SOCIETY (I.E Tesla, Newton, Hume, Ford, Wright brothers, Bell, Da Vinci, Pasteur, Archimedes, Gutenberg, Samuel Morse etc). A LOT OF MODERN INVENTORS AND SCIENTISTS ALSO CAME FROM A NON-URBAN BACKGROUND AS WELL!

      In such a setting there is a certain type of economies of scale that encourages regular birth rates and a societal wide pressure for the growth and emphasis on creativity, ingenuity, problem solving, raw intellectual vigor, calculation, logic, higher tertiary thinking etc. YOU DON’T NEED MODERN SOCIETY TO HAVE LOTS OF BRIGHT/SMART PEOPLE! You can find this in the pre-industrial/near-Industrial farming societies of Europe/Eastern Asia.

      Once there is a certainty that a population base is in fact holding quite a significant number of bright intelligent people, then the preservation and maximization of the population is of utmost priority when in threat of immigration/migration of people that do not have quite the same number of intelligent people and are of FOREIGN STOCK. INFACT MODERNISM AND TECHNOLOGICALISM HAS A DYSGENIC DUMBING DOWN EFFECT ON PEOPLE! When you remove the pressure, then there is no place of competence, growth or need of bright people.

      The key emphasis here is the PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE MAKE AND CREATE A SOCIETY AND A CIVILIZATION! Modern social economic growth theory ignores BIOLOGICAL RACE and THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP A CIVILIZATION AND ASSUMES EVERYONE IS THE SAME! HENCE WHY IT STATES THAT CYCLE OF DECLINES OF POPULATION IN SOCIETY IS NORMAL!

      THIS IS BECAUSE MODERN ECONOMIC THEORY EVOLVED IN A SETTING WHERE THERE WAS NO THREAT OF FOREIGN INVADERS AND MIGRANTS USURPING AND CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION AND DEMOGRAPHIC BASE OF THE CIVILIZATIONS IT WAS DERIVED FROM AND NO CONSTANT THREAT OF ILLEGAL INVADERS!!!

      SO IT IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT THE ALTERNATIVE RIGHT AND HBD SPHERE IGNORE AND THROW OUT MODERNISM AND MODERN ECONOMIC THEORY OUT THE WINDOW BECAUSE IT IS RACIALLY DISINGENUOUS AND DOES NOT THE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT/COMPREHEND THE BIOLOGICAL NECESSITY/IMPORTANCE OF DEMOGRAPHIC/POPULATIONS/RACIAL GENETICS AND HOW IT PERTAINS TO INDUSTRIAL ECONOMIES AND MODERN SOCIETIES/CIVILIZATIONS!!!!!

  • JohnEngelman

    More people mean that thee is less of everything good to go around. A decline in the birth rate is to be welcomed.

    The idea that we need more young people to take care of the old people is shortsighted. Eventually the old people die, the young people get old, and we still have more people.

    • meanqueen

      I’m fine with a decline in the white birthrate so long as one of these two conditions are present: 1) there is also a marked decline in the non-white birthrate, but since that is unlikely, then 2) the non-whites stay on their side of the border line.

  • KenelmDigby

    The ‘argument’ oft made by the immigrationists that massive third world immigration is ‘necessary’ to ‘save social security’ is just pure trash. Anyone who makes this argument is either merely an ignorant fool or a damned liar.
    The plain and simple fact, that somehow the immigrationists gloss over, is that immigrants age in exactly the same way as natives do, and thus age cohort for age cohort, will be eligible for social security at the same rate as natives. This is purely a matter of simple arithmetic. No lies, however piously or ‘authoritavely’ uttered by politicians or charlatan ‘experts’ can change this, anymore than they can change the central axiom of mathematics ie 1 + 1 = 2.

    • Light from the East

      The assumption of the study of immigration that the productivity and ability of the 3rd world immigrants are equal to that of 1st world natives is ridiculous.

  • Light from the East

    The study ignores many important things:
    A high IQ immigrant is not equal to a low IQ immigrant.
    100 immigrants is not equal to 1 million immigrants.
    Legal immigrants are not equal to illegal immigrants.
    An immigrant from culture A is not equal to an immigrant from culture B.
    An immigrant with ethnicity A is not equal to an immigrant with ethnicity B.
    A Christian immigrant is not equal to a Muslim immigrant.
    …etc.

  • DLRisVH

    I had the misfortune of being dragged from house to do some shopping this past Christmas, and what I saw was disgusting.
    Mrs. had to buy a specific item and she said the store was in the mall, one we used to hang out at when we were in our teens, I was reluctant to go but……….
    Once we entered the mall the first thing I noticed was how dark it had become. the second thing was the lack of English being spoken, and all of the little brown squat monsters running around unattended.
    Walking through the mall I noticed that the White males were walking in packs of 4 to 6 with no females around them at all, the reason for this was because the white females were clinging to their american african male like he was some sort of prize or trophy. The older White couples were walking or pushing in strollers, their multi colored grandchildren, some doing their best to make them look as White as possible and others seemed proud of the fact their children’s offspring were of another race.
    The last, but most important thing I noticed, was the lack of White babies/children, the blacks had their kids with them, same with mexicans and puerto ricans, but no White babies/children. It would have shocked me more to see a White baby in the arms of his/her White mother or father than if a woolly mammoth had stampeded through the mall with three cavemen on its back.

    • meanqueen

      Maybe all the whites in your area have already refugeed to Idaho.

    • Ella

      Whites shop safely at home to avoid those depressing city malls. I do see more whites at pay-entertainment facilities for children and also, better dining establishments.

  • Beloved Comrade

    The native born population in Japan is aging and crashing and there are already calls for Japan to open up its doors to immigrants from Somalia, Sudan and Syria.
    Better to develop robots to take care of work the Japanese won’t do instead of importing Africans, otherwise they’ll end up just like us.

    • meanqueen

      I don’t think Japan will do that. They will suffer stoically until their oldsters have died off and the younger generations can begin to manage. Or, they’ll push for a baby boom.

      • Ella

        Do you imagine trying to raise families in a society with 50-65% old? They”ll suck up many resources even if they don’t ask for it.

    • So far the Japanese resist immigration. They are extremely racist. They barely accept pure bred japanese who were born in Brazil.

      But Western pressure is strong. They might budge

      • Japan already gave in to Western pressure and changed their laws regarding victimless “child porn” manga drawings. In spite of Japan having one of the lowest sex crime rate in the world

        Immigration laws might be next. Everyone, except the Japanese, agree that more diversity is needed.

  • newscomments70

    I was standing next to a 30-something white couple in the check out line at the supermarket today. They had step kids and couldn’t wait to have more of their own. They looked “liberal”, but to hell with it, that’s better than nothing. We can always convert them.

  • Sick of it

    That’s no joke. My grandmother has been paying on burial insurance for decades and the payout will not meet the costs of her funeral. Not even close.

  • newscomments70

    Liberals will keep pushing until they get their way. This shouldn’t even be open to discussion. Japanese liberals are pushing for their own rape and genocide. Such people shoud be collected and brought up on treason charges.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I teach a class on environmental science and there was a question in the exam about how they would improve birth rates in Europe and to stop the birth control maddness, most of the students said that they would like more immigrants to come to Europe and have babies and some said they would give Eurpoean people incentives to have more babies and some said that women should be encoruaged to have 2 or maybe 3, but now more and that immigration should be made the priority. Such liberal maddness from a majority white student class. No wonder the white race is in trouble.

    • newscomments70

      The white students wouldn’t be liberal if the class were mostly non-white.

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

        53% white and then others non white. Among the white only one white male and the rest are white females.

        • newscomments70

          That makes sense. White females are mostly liberal, left-leaning. Your school has already effectively eliminated white males, so that is no longer an issue. I’m sure there is a token, white homosexual beta male here and there, but the real men are gone.

          On a tangent, I am reminded of a Robin Williams monologue/political statement during the Obama election. He was speaking in Chicago to a crowd of predominantly white women. He happily exclaimed, “We will soon have the first black President!”, and the crowd of white women wildly cheered. He commented that Obama speaks like a white man right now, but when he is in office, he will start doing this…and he started to swagger around on stage and speak in ebonics. He spoke as if this were a good thing. The crowd continued to cheer.

          A few years later, Robin Williams commit suicide; he died a rather lonely, bankrupt, sad man. We reap what we sow.

          • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

            So true.

    • An environmental science class is discussing how to increase the human population on an already crowded continent?

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

        I try and give it a conservative white identity approach. Hey we need conservatives in liberal professions to set things right.

  • meanqueen

    I have a different perspective on who “wants” divorce. Women are much more emotionally invested in their primary relationships – marriage and mothering. Things have to be extremely bad before a woman will walk away from that. Not all men are good husbands, and a lot of men are avoiders and passive-aggressive when it comes to relationships and to ending their marriage. They sabotage the marriage every which way they can, and yet refuse to file for divorce, forcing the woman to do it. That more women initiate legal divorce proceedings is no proof at all that more women want the divorce.

    • Susannah

      True. And most of the time a truly abusive husband will not initiate divorce, forcing the hand of the wife in an often unbearable situation.

    • Jason Lewis

      I’m with you on this. 99% of the divorces I know of are the mans fault, usually involving another woman.

    • “That more women initiate legal divorce proceedings is no proof at all that more women want the divorce.”

      Yeah, I get it; statistics are not exactly a liberal’s best friend.

  • Eagle1212

    It doesn’t matter the age or where you’re from, if you are here illegally you will be detained and deported, no other country in the world tolerates illegal immigration and they have severe punishments for those who are in them illegally. When they look at us into how we enforce our immigration laws they laugh at us, look at North Africa, they are building border checkpoints to deter the immigrants from Africa, or look at Mexico, they’re building a wall to keep out the Central and South American illegals but the US is being nice to them by letting them cross into here illegally and approve of that with a nod and a wink. Unless we enforce our immigration laws altogether, we’ll still see this problem get worse by the day.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    So is white people forgoing having pure white kids of their own and adoting negroes and non whites especially negroes just to look cool and non racist and also to be the new christian accepting everyone at the peril of your own race.

    • meanqueen

      I feel sad for those parents (though I agree with you that whites should not adopt non-whites). Most likely they went through years of infertility and learned that there are virtually no white babies to adopt. So they adopted what was available, which is the black/hispanic/NativeAmerican baby of a crack ho. Those who value intelligence adopt from China. Those who want a caucasian baby adopt from Russia (though that’s one of the absolute worst places to adopt from since Russia puts up its undesirables, like the kids with fetal alcohol syndrome, of which there are many in drunken Russia, or congenital anomalies. Very sad situation all around. I know there are complete families who adopt not out of infertility but just as an expression of their Christian faith. Unfortunately, it very often backfires on all these adoptive parents, as children grow up to reject them. The children suffer as well. Sad situation all around. Orphaned children should at the very least remain in their own culture. We should work to improve the condition of orphanages. For those families for whom it works, I’m happy for the individual who got a loving family out of it, but it’s not what’s best for ethnic/cultural preservation.

      • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

        I agree. I know a white couple who could not have a baby after their first child, and they adopted 2 white babies. See there are white babies and they are very nice looking. Not like Marishka Hargitay that had a biological son, then adopted a black baby girl and then a white baby boy. These are the fools I am talking about.

        • meanqueen

          There aren’t very many white babies, though. They are hard to find and the competition is stiff. Also with open adoption being all the rage now, you have some 16 year old girl getting to “choose” who her baby will go to and being allowed to demand a certain level of involvement in the child’s life, and who wants to deal with that?

          • Ella

            With ART technologies, there are many options for adoption using donors, but it does involve pregnancy as long as a woman can carry to the third trimester. Some women have problems in miscarriages, but surrogacy at additional costs can override health limitations. I read about one case where a woman had her first bio-baby in her early 50’s postmenopausal using IVF. Consequently, a friend of mine adopted and paid out 45K for a Russian toddler.

  • HJ11

    Humans are not fungible. You can’t simply replace Whites with non-Whites and have the same results.

    On a slightly different track: It upsets me to see elderly Whites who chose not to have children say that “The children are our future.” Really? How are non-White children your future? White children are at least close enough to you genetically so that some of the same DNA code you have will go forward in them, but non-Whites are not our kind. Not even close. And, let me say it: The taxonomic terms such as species, sub-species, race, etc. do not reflect reality. I say the major races of humans should be called species. There is that much difference between us.

  • Brady

    Damn straight I’m for investing tax money in future generations, particularly those likely to make positive contributions to society.

    Also, genitalia are involved in the production of the next generation of citizens. If that’s not a legitimate social concern of the state, I’m at loss to imagine what would be. These Enlightenment superstitions about “person autonomy” have already caused enough trouble.

    • Yes, marriage and family is about THE WHOLE COMMUNITY reproducing itself.

  • com contrarian

    Low birth rates are correlated with urbanisation and high land prices. Most immigrants (especially non-white immigrants) flock to big cities and soon realise that kids are an expensive liability in a big city. Hence, the premise of the article is correct – immigrants are just as likely to contribute to the aging population problem as solve it. The fact that many immigrants have high crime rates and can’t hold down skilled jobs further adds to the problem.

    If you want people to reproduce more you need to provide more jobs in smaller towns and cities with affordable housing.

  • Hammerheart

    Meanwhile, everyone else that is asleep at the wheels is wondering why their dollars aren’t buying as much stuff, why crime is going up, and why there’s so much racial divide in the country.

    • Ella

      Many people who take the handouts or entitlements don’t care where the financing comes from.

  • Irish

    Not necessarily.. The birthrate in Japan is lower that that among White Americans. And Japan despite a slowed economy is still a world economic power. I’ve no doubts that they will right the birthrate ship at some point, but either way Japan will still be 99% ethnically Japanese.

  • cicero

    I believe it was Burke who, while warning us against presentism, made us notice that those who don’t care about their ancestors by the same logic don’t care about posterity.

  • Ten for ten.

    The people who are making these xenophiliac arguments really don’t care that much about demographic pyramids, the environment, Social Security, family values, or any of the canards they float. They’re just trying to use any convenient argument to talk us into unlimited immigration, because what they really want is a constantly increasing labor supply to result in a decreasing labor cost, in order to create a steady transfer of wealth from labor to capital.

    • This is why bleeding heart liberals and greedy capitalist both agree on immigration. Immigration brings cheap labor and depresses wages.

      Strangely, democrats and socialists do NOT object to depressing wages. Their concern for Mexicans to escape Mexico outweighs their concern about Black jobs and wages.

  • Batterytrain

    I am posting in front because my important comment is getting buried by all the other comments so here goes:

    “I think that growth of standard of living and growth in the technology sector should be halved and carefully put off for later, in times of likely migration or invasion of foreigners. I think that in some cases, growth just means having the likely possibility that everyone will have a shinier car and a flat screen TV then previous times and especially when it concerns notions such as modern growth.

    Priorities need to be set, and we don’t need extraneous growth just for superficial unnecessary economic growth that a population doesn’t need IN ORDER to keep it’s population/identity/culture/civilization intact; which is the main problem with today’s junk economic theories preached by Jews as gospel. This I believe is the key to the preservation of the High-average IQ civilizations, the West and the key problem behind most of the West’s cycles of growth and boom/busts.

    In order to preserve the West and most of the High-IQ civilizations of modern times, what needs to happen is that we have to artificially put in a growth cap and standard ceiling so that civilizations DO NOT PURSUE UNNECESSARY ECONOMIC GROWTH (Ipads, flat-screen TV’s, Shiny car, shiny skyscrapers etc) AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR MAIN POPULATION BASE AND CIVILIZATION. PEOPLE CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT SHINY THINGS AS LONG AS THEIR BASIC SURVIVAL NECESSITIES ARE MET!

    The best example of my idea is the Amish, the Amish are one of the few Western populations that have been having regular birthrates without much in periods of decline as the rest of the Western world. The Amish live healthy, eat fresh food and have incredibly good living standards healthwise then the rest of the “advanced” West despite shunning most of the modern technology. They have effectively put a cap on modernism such that it doesn’t jeopardize their main culture or their fertility rates.

    THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD! We have to have a period of completely and utterly maximizing birthrates and our populations by putting a voluntary artificial cap on technological and economical growth that is not necessary to actually generate population growth of Western populations, OR for the preservation of it’s cultural ethos. This can also be accomplished by switching from different specialized economies that have an emphasis on regular population replacement growth (Amish, Hanseatic league, guilds, craftsmen based economy etc you get the picture).

    Once population growth has been maximized within the available parameters of a modern civilization’s capacity; then we can have unnecessary economic growth with the possibility of a declining cycle of birth rate PROVIDED THAT THE PERIOD OF SAID POPULATION MAXIMIZATION CYCLE HAS OFFSET ANY FUTURE CYCLES OF SPACES, SLOTS OR NEEDS FOR FUTURE IMMIGRATION OF FOREIGNERS! WE ALSO NEED TO COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY SEAL THE BORDER AND CONDUCT ALL COMMERCIAL AND SOCIAL ACTIVITY WITH OTHERS BY SEA!

    Also high-IQ/bright/creative/talented/clever/ingenious/inventive/gifted/builders of modern civilization people don’t need junk like I-pads/Iphones/flatscreens in order to do what they do best. There is a misconception and intentional manipulated propaganda that in order for a population base to have mostly higher then average IQ per person, we have to pursue modernism and this cycle of superficial unnecessary economic growth (for I.E flat screen TV’s, Iphones, Ipads, consoles, shiny cars etc) for that to be accomplished.

    THIS IS FALSE! Infact a lot of the SMARTEST AND BRIGHTEST PEOPLE OF THE MODERN AGE CAME FROM A FARMING/AGRICULTURAL/RURAL/LABOR/NON-URBAN/NON-CITY STATE/SMALL TOWN-VILLAGE SOCIETY (I.E Tesla, Newton, Hume, Ford, Wright brothers, Bell, Da Vinci, Maxwell, Pasteur, Archimedes, Gutenberg, Samuel Morse etc). A LOT OF MODERN INVENTORS AND SCIENTISTS ALSO CAME FROM A NON-URBAN BACKGROUND AS WELL!

    In such a setting there is a certain type of economies of scale that encourages regular birth rates and a societal wide pressure for the growth and emphasis on creativity, ingenuity, problem solving, raw intellectual vigor, calculation, logic, higher tertiary thinking etc. YOU DON’T NEED MODERN SOCIETY TO HAVE LOTS OF BRIGHT/SMART PEOPLE! You can find this in the pre-industrial/near-Industrial farming societies of Europe/Eastern Asia.

    Once there is a certainty that a population base is in fact holding quite a significant number of bright intelligent people, then the preservation and maximization of the population is of utmost priority when in threat of immigration/migration of people that do not have quite the same number of intelligent people and are of FOREIGN STOCK. INFACT MODERNISM AND TECHNOLOGICALISM HAS A DYSGENIC DUMBING DOWN EFFECT ON PEOPLE! When you remove the pressure, then there is no place of competence, growth or need of bright people.

    The key emphasis here is the PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE MAKE AND CREATE A SOCIETY AND A CIVILIZATION! Modern social economic growth theory ignores BIOLOGICAL RACE and THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE UP A CIVILIZATION AND ASSUMES EVERYONE IS THE SAME! HENCE WHY IT STATES THAT CYCLE OF DECLINES OF POPULATION IN SOCIETY IS NORMAL!

    THIS IS BECAUSE MODERN ECONOMIC THEORY EVOLVED IN A SETTING WHERE THERE WAS NO THREAT OF FOREIGN INVADERS AND MIGRANTS USURPING AND CHANGING THE CONSTITUTION AND DEMOGRAPHIC BASE OF THE CIVILIZATIONS IT WAS DERIVED FROM AND NO CONSTANT THREAT OF ILLEGAL INVADERS!!!

    SO IT IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT THE ALTERNATIVE RIGHT AND HBD SPHERE IGNORE AND THROW OUT MODERNISM AND MODERN ECONOMIC THEORY OUT THE WINDOW BECAUSE IT IS RACIALLY DISINGENUOUS AND DOES NOT THE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT/COMPREHEND THE BIOLOGICAL NECESSITY/IMPORTANCE OF DEMOGRAPHIC/POPULATIONS/RACIAL GENETICS AND HOW IT PERTAINS TO INDUSTRIAL ECONOMIES AND MODERN SOCIETIES/CIVILIZATIONS!!!!!”

  • A Freespeechzone

    Beyond the demographics—-I suspect that all too many of these ‘new’ immigrants work off the books and pay no taxes anyway.

    But, make no mistake, they will demand ‘benefits’ at the cost of those of us who DO pay taxes.

  • Viking_61

    Would a prenuptial agreement scare away the average 20-something year old woman from marrying someone? I would bet not many of the people getting married in that age bracket even know what a prenuptial agreement is.

  • SeaMonkey Browser

    Look at Halle Berry having a happy time with a white male

    http://goo[DOT]gl/vgbqIY

  • Epiminondas

    It has always been a point of irritation for me that the chamber of commerce should have anything whatsoever to say about the nation’s population. Quite frankly, the growth or decline in population of the Historic American Nation should be a fact above reproach or even discussion among our business elites. Our nation’s expansion or contraction should be something business simply adapts to, like the weather. We should not for one second countenance the “public discussions” of fertility rates. By allowing financial and business elites to frame the discussion, we end up with the econometric arguments for open borders. It is truly disgusting.

  • Fr. John+

    What sort of perverse mind can justify the genocide of the White Founding Stock, by the importation of mestizos and Somali Muslims, as though that is somehow ‘good’ for the USA? That is literally the equivalent of saying that Ancient Davidic Israel needed to ‘import’ Edomites, Canaanites, and Babylonians to ‘increase the worshiping population of God’s Chosen People! Cult is TIED organically to CULTURE. Import those not of our Race AND our Culture, and you destroy both… which seems to be EXACTLY what the RINOS and the Neo-Cons, as well as the Obamaniacs have been about, since the Celler Immigration Bill of 1965…