Feds Raid California ‘Maternity Hotels’ for Birth Tourists

Andrew Blankstein and Tracy Connor, CNBC, March 3, 2015

Southern California apartment complexes that doubled as “maternity hotels” for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided early Tuesday, capping an unprecedented federal sting operation, officials said.

NBC News was on the scene as Homeland Security agents swept into The Carlyle, a luxury property in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new moms who allegedly forked over $40,000 to $80,000 to give birth in the United States.

“I am doing this for the education of the next generation,” one of the women told NBC News.

None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

Instead, the investigation was aimed at ringleaders who pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese nationals obtain visas and then pamper them until they delivered in an American hospital at a discount, court papers show.

All told, the feds raided 20 locations in Los Angeles, Orange and San Bernardino counties, targeting three competing birth tourism schemes, officials said.

The organizers who allegedly ran the Carlyle site, Chao Chen and Dong Li, used a website to drum up business, touting the benefits of a child with U.S. citizenship: 13 years of free education, low-cost college financial aid, less pollution, and a path for the entire family to emigrate when the child becomes an adult.

Clients were counseled on what lies to tell to obtain a tourist visa; how to fly through Hawaii, Las Vegas or Korea to avoid suspicious immigration officers at Los Angeles International Airport; and how to disguise their pregnancy in transit, according to search warrant affidavit unsealed Tuesday.

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The women’s handlers provided transportation for doctor visits and trips to restaurants and shops, the court papers say. An agent tailing one of the suspects followed them to Target and Babies R Us.

They were funneled to several Orange County hospitals to deliver, but they didn’t pay full price–approximately $25,000–for medical services, officials said. Instead, they got reduced rates for the indigent, ranging from nothing to $4,000, the court papers say.

That translated into big losses for the hospitals. More than 400 babies linked to the scheme were born at just one facility in a two-year period, investigators said.

The investigators discovered that the parents of one baby born in April 2014 who paid the hospital just $4,000 were spending money at the Wynn Las Vegas Hotel, Rolex and Louis Vuitton, using an account with almost a quarter of a million dollars in it.

The fraud, authorities say, went beyond the visas.

Li didn’t file a U.S. tax return and Chen didn’t declare hundreds of thousands of dollars in proceeds, the affidavit says. In addition, Chen and his wife, Jie Zhu committed marriage fraud, pretending to be divorced so they could get “green-card” marriages in the U.S., the feds charged.

The phenomenon of foreigners coming to the U.S. to have babies is not new but appears to be growing. One study found that 40,000 children a year are born to women here on a travel visa, the affidavit notes.

Tuesday’s crackdown marked the first large-scale federal probe of birth-tourism kingpins in the continental U.S.

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  • DelmarJackson

    They also raided here in South Florida today.

    • A Freespeechzone

      Watch, little or nothing will be done; the raids were just ‘window dressing’.

  • The United States gets treated like an easy slut because because it has no self respect.

    • Jason Lewis

      One of the reasons I wish for a economic collapse. Make it so nobody wants to come here.

      • spahnranch69 .

        A better way to discourage unwanted non-White immigration would be if White American citizens took control of their government and their borders.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          I say we re-gift it to Mexico with the inscription:

          “Come all ye Muslims”.

        • Whirlwinder

          We are in control, we just have not exercised our authority.

      • Whirlwinder

        Jason, isn’t that like burning down the barn to get rid of the rats?

        • Jason Lewis

          Yeah but tell me what will work. The things that will work the politicians won’t do. If the collapse happened then there wouldnt be any money to send out for welfare. Without welfare and jobs most would self deport. We came back from the Great Depression stronger than ever.

    • Weisheit77

      Who is the biggest whore in the world? The Statue of Liberty.

      • dick

        She is french!

      • spahnranch69 .

        Don’t blame Lady Liberty, she was a gift from our Masonic friends in France on the occasion of the American Centennial. It was that poem written by the vile Jewess Emma Lazarus that turned the famous copper-green statue in NY harbor into a symbol of unregulated non-White immigration.

        • Bossman

          When she wrote that poem, the masses were all Europeans. The USA had already passed a law preventing the hordes of East Asia from coming.

          • Alden

            The anti Asian laws came after that disgusting poem. If one “deconstructs” as the liberals say that poem; it boils down to “European nations, feel free to dump your garbage in America.”

        • Max

          They should rotate the statue 180 deg. and modify the hand with the torch to a middle finger to accurately portray the modern symbolic intent.

          • spahnranch69 .

            I personally like Franz Kafka’s description of Lady Liberty holding a sword instead of a torch in one of his stories.

      • Bossman

        Lady Liberty is indeed a prostitute, her creator was inspired by the prostitutes of Paris who bared their breasts during the French revolution and carrying torches shouting Death to the King. She is also a freed slave. Freedom encompasses all those things.

        • Alden

          Don’t know much about French history and Marianne the atheist substitute for Mary the Mother of Jesus do you? Prostitues of Paris did not bare their breasts for anything other than for their customers. The revolutionary art featured a lot of female flesh it is true. The purpose of the art was propaganda. The female flesh was to attract men, just as pretty girls advertising beer and cars attract men’s attention today.

      • She is the Statue of Liberty, and not the statue of immigration.

  • None of the women were arrested; they are being treated as material witnesses, and paramedics were on hand in case any of them went into labor during the sweep.

    And if they did give birth, the kid is a birthright citizen. So, what was the point of the raid?

    • GeneticsareDestiny

      The point of the raid was to gather witnesses (the pregnant women) against the organizers running this scheme. I guess this is a good start, but it would have more impact if the women who paid to come here and essentially steal citizenship for their children had some sort of penalty for that.

      • LexiconD1

        Especially, if they come here illegally. Perhaps birthright citizenship ought only be passed on to those who have at least ONE parent who’s a citizen.

        • John Smith

          I’d support that, along with the children of fully documented permanent immigrants.

        • spahnranch69 .

          Only decent, law-abiding Whites should be granted the PRIVILEGE of American citizenship. Everybody else either gets the hell out of here or agrees to abide by the laws that govern non-citizen aliens.

      • In a sane country that is exactly what WOULD happen. But decades of liberal indoctrination have ended common sense in our society.

      • Greg Thomas

        And for their “cooperation”, they will be rewarded with green cards. Count on it.

      • archer

        The penalty should be send them home, now.

        • GeneticsareDestiny

          Certainly. And their children should not be getting U.S. citizenship, even if they were born here.

          Both mother and child should be sent back to their home countries with no right to return. She should be barred from ever receiving a legal visa in the future as well.

          • Max

            They could easily amend the provision to state that the children of non-citizen criminals or those who conceived *before* entry into the U.S. be ineligible for citizenship. “Undocumented immigrants” are by definition criminals and conception before entry could be deemed under the law to be “intent to achieve citizenship by deception” -if they wanted to enforce it.

            The same gummint doesn’t have any problem declaring that by someone’s actions alone they have renounced citizenship and are “enemy combatants” for legal purposes.

      • Alden

        They will stay long enough to have their babies. At least those babies will be born here. About 20 years ago there was an article in National Review about licensed Hispanic midwives in the south western states. They would actually go across and deliver a baby in Mexico and for a hefty fee file a birth certificate in the US state I. Which they were licensed. Many had arrangements with Mexican midwife sand Drs. They would get a call about a new born Mexican baby born in Mexico and file a birth certificate fin the American state in which they were licensed. Lots of Arabs, Carribeans, Africans and others from unstable countries do the same.

    • Speedy Steve

      Uncle Sam is getting into organ-harvesting now.

    • Greg Thomas

      To make sure the women dropping anchor get their green cards. As ” witnesses’ to a crime, the government will classify them as crime ” victims,”resulting in green cards for all. Why else would DHS be involved?

    • AndrewInterrupted

      It was a publicity stunt by the DHS to fool the Republicans into thinking the MUGgers (Minority Underlying Government) act on the behalf of Americans. Notice the timing?

  • Race Heretic

    This will never happen, but we need to get rid of “geographical location at the time of leaving the womb” citizenship. I blame it on the damnyankees.

    If that wasn’t a thing, then we wouldn’t have to worry about the number of illegal immigrants here – the Democrats know they’re breeding future Democratic voters, which is why they want it.

  • D.B. Cooper

    Yawn. You know they will not get deported, and I really WANT the white California democrat to pay for them.

  • Dwight

    Just what we need now – Chinese squatters squeezing out brand new “Americans.” Great.

    • phillyguy

      its nothing new its been happening in this country for the last 20 years , all engineered by the Chinese mob.

      • Jason Lewis

        Canada was getting tons of Chinese doing the same thing. They changed their laws no more anchor babies can exist.

      • Bossman

        China has a secret plan to conquer North America. There is a new book out called The 100 year marathon. I’m going to read it.

        • listenupbub

          Take that with a grain of salt, bossman.

    • Bossman

      The problem is that there are over a billion of them and they all want to do the same thing. America is the great prize for them.

  • Luca

    Our government has turned us into the biggest suckers in the world. Foreigners also come here for medical tourism. They fly here with grave illnesses, show up at an ER, pretend to be indigent, get a nice $100k taxpayer-funded operation then fly back home.

    • Vito Powers

      The Republican Congress has their priorities such as “entitlement reform”, which means reducing Social Security and Medicare for the aging baby boomers and seniors. Things like immigration scams just don’t seem to interest them.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        And the saddest thing about that is that Republicans could use immigration as a winning issue almost everywhere. This could be the thing that turns some of the purple states red and makes the blue states purple.

        I live in a thoroughly blue state (Minnesota) and there’s a lot of popular anti-immigration sentiment here among regular people (especially the white working class). It’s such a low hanging fruit for the Republicans. They’re stupid not to grab it.

        • There in lies the problem: The Democrats only care about non-Whites and special interest groups, like teacher’s unions; and the Republicans only care about the rich and corporations. No one cares about ordinary White Americans.

          • MikeofAges

            No one cares much about either ordinary or socioeconomically disadvantaged Americans of any stripe. Minorities are of no interest to the Democrats except as a source of bloc votes. When was the last time, for example, that any Democrat talked about how to create the several million semiskilled and unskilled jobs needed to start making a dent in the black underclass?

            Just as an aside, anyone who think that “the economy” will ever create full employment is freakin’ nuts. The only time we ever had full employment was when our population was 130 million, we were fighting a world war across three oceans, supplying three major allies and had taken more than ten million white men between the ages of 18 and 40 out of the civilian workforce. Bread and circuses, man. Bread and circuses.

          • Nobody cares about them unless fresh meat is wanted for yet another stupid war.

          • MikeofAges

            Or bodies for the greedy maw of the American Gulag.

        • Weisheit77

          Stupid, or crazy like a fox? I’m not sure about stupid anymore although out of respect for Sam Francis I will continue to refer to them as the stupid party and maybe more so for the supporters than leaders.

        • spahnranch69 .

          They’re not called The Stupid Party for nothing.

          • MikeofAges

            The Stupid Party and the Crazy Party.

    • Bossman

      ER care is generally inferior care. They just parch you up and send you on your way.

      • Blackfish

        But likely far superior to what they would receive in the Third World dump they are coming from

        “The witch doctor will see you now. . . “

  • Vito Powers

    Would Jebby Bush consider this “an act of love” or would he “politely ask” them to leave?

    • LHathaway

      lol, for him, I guess it was an act of love. He’s claimed when he met his future wife, it was love at first sight.

      • spahnranch69 .

        How did they meet? Was Guadeloupe cleaning Jeb’s hotel room?

        • LHathaway

          They met in Mexico somewhere. Probably both students, at the time. There was an article posted recently that went into great detail about all of it. My memory is not what it used to be.

        • Max

          Maybe it was at one of those Mexican side-shows you hear about.

          • Reynardine

            When he saw her with that donkey, he knew he had to have her too…

        • Alden

          When they were in high school. He was on an exchange program in her town.

  • dd121

    Settle down people. This is just a small side show.

  • There some new TV show I’ll never watch about Chinese immigrants, I’m sure Americans are portrayed as fools and Chinese culture as pure genius.

    • Reynardine

      Eddie Huang’s Fresh Off the Boat. I don’t even watch TV, but radio commercials blare on non-stop about it, puking pure-drivel praises like “Fresh” (means it doesn’t feature whites) and “Funny” (which means it roasts and demeans the white culture into which they chose to flee).

  • LHathaway

    “I am doing this for the education of the next generation,”

    And NBC is Reporting this, for the education of the next generation. I hope Whites are paying attention. I seriously suspect many of them are.

  • ckmariner

    Obama hates Asians because he’s jealous of their success and they makes blacks look bad. Also, the left’s affirmative action programs for college admission gives Asians lowest priority. Succeed in America “while non-black” and you’re on Obama’s hit list.

    • Bossman

      I don’t believe what you’re saying is true but if he does, then he is wise for the hordes of East Asia are the biggest threat to American identity, bigger in the long run than so-called Hispanics.

      • They’re not “hordes”, and unlike blacks, they are more functional about their objectives. Please remember that I married one. She wrote to me while I was locked up. I had been a chemical engineer in the microelectronics industry, and my first regular job after returning home was morning manager at a Subway restaurant. I wasn’t exactly a “catch” by then.

        Japan has a birthrate well below the replacement rate, as does China. In the long term, they are no demographic threat to us. China currently has a lot of very poor people. A generation from now, they will have very many old people. The greaserita baby-dump trucks are the problem.

        • Max

          The Chinese are certainly not a problem on the scale of the Hispanzees but they are mostly Democrats anyway and are bred to and like collectivism and they are growing.

          I don’t want they making our laws.

          Japanese immigration is a non-issue at this time though if you look at Inouye’s record you get a sense of what Japanese-in-America gov’t would be like if there were a great fraction of them.

  • RacialRay

    It must be that “kick me” sign stapled to Uncle’s back that attracts all the dregs of the world to our shores. Good Lord, I feel like a walking wallet.

  • Alexandra1973

    If the Big One hits and California falls into the Pacific, will it be missed?

    • Reynardine

      If it does, I’ll be pushing on the other end of the divide so it falls in faster.

    • Marilyn

      Nope

    • UncleSham

      The land? Yes. The people? Not so much.

  • Don’t worry. I am sure Obama is going to put a stop to this. He will put a stop to those racist agents of the FBI targeting Chinese people and trying to “separate the families” the mothers from their children who “only want to come here for a better life.” Now, enough of the sarcasm. This just gets more and more crazy. When are our Republican politicians going to take a stand and end birthright citizenship in the United states?

    • John Ambrose

      The Stupid Party in the House has the votes and the clout to pass a bill ending birthright citizenship but I guess they’re just too busy dealing with America’s “real” threats- y’know like Iran nuclear program and ISIS…

    • spahnranch69 .

      The same day they stop all taxpayer funded “aid” to Israel.

  • John Smith

    Like Asians with money were the major problem in the anchor baby scene. Meanwhile, poor Hispanics skate.

    • Bossman

      Keep underestimating them. One day to your surprise, you’ll wake up and be surrounded by them. East Asians are very good at the game of deception.

  • Jason Lewis

    If I were a billionaire I would use my money to ship millions of Chinese to Mexico.

    • spahnranch69 .

      That’s why you’re not a billionaire. You don’t think like one.

    • There’s plenty more room on the bottom of the ocean.

    • Bossman

      Why would you want to do such a stupid thing? If millions of Chinese were to go to Mexico, they would quickly use Mexico as an outpost to conquer all of North America.

      • The way the greaseritos are doing?

      • Jason Lewis

        I thought it would be cool for Mexico to have 20 million illegal Chinese flood a portion of their country. They could demand welfare and education benefits. They can demand everything be written in Chinese. Mexico can cease looking like Mexico in a few years.

  • Ella

    What a deal for the them.! Americans with health insurance get stuck with 3-4K hospital bills after a healthy delivery.

    • Alden

      I used to work in a big hospital. At the time the bill for a normal childbirth and 24 hour stay was $13,000 for people with insurance. The Medicaid reimbursement for a normal birth and 24 hour stay was $1,100.
      The billing people told me that about 70 percent of the babies born were messicans on medic aid. Worse than the births, the messiahs got to go to our hospitals free pedi clinic until they were 18.
      This was a major hospital. That means a regional center for risky pregnancies and lots of severely premature severely defective babies in and out of the hospital for the first few years of their lives along with extensive major surgery. The Hispanics with illegal parents got that expensive treatment for free and the hospital got the tiny medic aid reimbursement.

  • The FBI has almost no sense of humor.

  • Weisheit77

    Something tells me that they aren’t worried about the new Americans, they just want their cut of the cash.

    Up until very recently I worked at a major English language school at a major university. Funny enough, at our school it wasn’t the Chinese, or even the Asians, who were guilty of this but it was a common practice for Arab women from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to show up about ready to burst and we couldn’t do anything about it.

    I miss my job because it was nice interacting with college bound and graduate school bound East Asians and the pay was pretty nice, too, for the work I did, but seeing pregnant Arabs everyday is one thing I don’t miss. I also don’t miss seeing American teachers and tutors denigrate America from a leftwing perspective to Saudis, either.

    • Marilyn

      I used to see pregnant Arab women in high school all time. It was a shock to me because how many American white parents warn their children about high school pregnancies? What does that tell high schoolers today? I mentioned this due to the comment on.pregnant Arab women.

      • Muslims like women to be subservient, which means giving them as few choices as possible in life. Usually, this means getting them pregnant while they are still quite young.

        • Blackfish

          It also gets them out of the house and puts the burden of supporting them on their husband’s family.

          • My daughter can stay with us as long as she wants.

          • Blackfish

            Got it – but most Muslim families don’t feel that way about their daughters.

        • Weisheit77

          But the ironic part is that, at least in Saudi Arabia, they are the majority of the educated. That’s the sad part. And I’ve met at least a thousand now and I can tell you that the vast majority of the time the female was the brains of the bunch, whether it was a sister or a wife.

    • Max

      Pregnant invaders in bee-keepers garb = mobile terrorist factories.

  • WR_the_realist

    This raid is a band aid on a cancer. Unless the right of automatic birth right citizenship ends, the practice of dropping anchor babies will continue.

    • Weisheit77

      I wish I knew how to get in the business. At those prices I could pay off college and afford to move to somewhere from eastern Germany to Poland and run a legal business. I don’t know if you’ve ever been to Poland, but the women are gorgeous. Of course, I only need one.

      • bv

        Western Ukraine and Russia make the Polish beauties look like lumberjacks in comparison, I kid you not.

        • Weisheit77

          I haven’t ventured that far East yet. It just pains me to say it but I noticed more attractive Poles in Poland than Germans in Germany.

  • withcaution

    So people are willing to pay at least $50,000 for US citizenship but we’ve allowed 20 million people to steal it? Let’s see…20 million times $50,000… That’s $1 trillion if we value citizenship simply on the economics of it. $1 trillion stolen without so much as lifting a finger to fight about it. Of course, people might pay more, this is just what they’re paying right now. If you read into the article you’ll see this isn’t even an ass that these people necessarily plan on using for their child. They’re paying $50,000 apiece just as an insurance policy in case the kid wants to leave China someday.

  • Deacon Blue

    This is nothing. You folks need to see how many people – Chinese – are getting citizenship
    or at least a green card via the EB-5 Visa program here in the USA. With this program,
    anyone with $500,000 can “buy” their way to the head of the line for himself and his
    wife and his kids. And its legal. You can thank your good friend Uncle Monkey and
    the rest of his Cabinet Chimps for this. I don’t blame the foreigners with $500,000
    or even the Chinese women with $25,000-$50,000 dropping anchor here in a maternity
    hotel. We did this to ourselves. We created and allowed these “loopholes” – why wouldn’t
    they want their kids to be Americans and have an American passport? Yeah, I get it.
    We need to change the rules as to the conditions we allow people to become citizens.
    Us. Not them.

    • MikeofAges

      While there still is a “we”. If there is still a “we”. Some dispute that, on both sides of the line. More say, if there still is, in a while there won’t be.

    • Alden

      They don’t actually have to have $500,000. They only need to show a bank statement with $500,000. They pass the hat among the clan and get short term loans. The day after they get the bank statement they repay the clan contributors and the money lenders. All they need for the visa is the bank statement. When they arrive they buy convenience stores and other businesses with Minority SBA loans. As minorities they are exempt from many business taxes. By transferring the loans among family members every 4 and3/4 years they never have to pay the loans back. Once in business they never pay the payroll taxes.

      And these are the wonderful entrepreneurs with high IQ children so extolled by naive fools who dream of a White Asian alliance based on similar IQ.

  • Caucasoid88

    Reminds me of botflies that lay eggs inside of people’s skin.

  • Speedy Steve

    The Chinese are well organized. Chinese doctors at the Orange County hospitals are in on it, too. You can be certain that Triad-owned restaurants were serving the patients cat meat.

  • Light from the East

    Even though Asians are proven better than most of other immigrants, as an Asian, I would say if the USA was not built by whites, developed by whites, and with the majority of whites, the nation would not look the way that we see it today. And, of course, if the USA looks like Mexico 2.0, I would not even consider to come without thinking. I don’t wish to live in the USA with dominant number of Asians, if so, I just move to China. As minority, I clearly know the responsibility of being racial minority and help the USA keep the core value of its culture since 1776 and create a better society based on this core value.

    Immigration is always the issue of quantity and quality. I hope the USA one day will realize the nation has the ultimate right to decide which immigrant should have right to live here or citizenship, the right is not on the person who wishes to enter the USA. Therefore, I think all illegal immigrants should be sent back to where they come from, the USA should cancel the acquirement of citizenship by birth, and legal immigrants should be checked just like the way a company chooses who is qualified to become an employee.

    • listenupbub

      You are a wonderful person, Light from the East, a light of sanity (from the East) in an insane country of suicidal morons.

      God bless you.

  • Bossman

    As I understand it, East Asians have a secret plan to conquer North America without having to fire a shot. Sending their women to give birth here is just one aspect of the plan.

    • Like the greaseritos do?

      • Bossman

        Note well that I said North America. The so-called “greaseritos” are already North Americans. North America is their home.

        • I already explained my own answer to that one.

        • Deep North

          “North America” is not a sovereign country, the United States is. If we the people feel that we want to exclude other groups from migrating to this country, we have that right. The 3rd world has an off the charts sense of entitlement when it comes to immigrating to 1st world (White) countries.

        • Alden

          Only messicans are N.American. All those 4ft 10 people you see are central americans

    • A bunch of rich Chinese and Koreans are preferable to Somali refugees, Guatemalan unaccompanied underage gang members, or low IQ Mexican workers.

      • Bossman

        Rich Chinese and Koreans are worse, they have the power to increase their numbers in an exponential kind of way and pretty soon they would like to be seen in every commercial on TV and have a presence in all aspects of social life in North America.

        • Max

          There are ZERO Chinese or Korean radio or TV stations, consulates or immigration attorneys around here. We have countless Hispanic facilities such as these and I live in the middle of the country.

          The Asians are NOT the big threat. this “bust” was just throwing a wish-bone to conservatives -as if something were actually being done.

    • Weisheit77

      Well damn they suck compared to Mexico.

  • farbeyonddriven

    I didn’t see where they shipped all these pregnant aliens back to their home countries before they gave birth….must of missed that part.

  • How many people are concerned about the immigration of rich, low violence, probably over 115 IQ Chinese? How great is your concern about this compared to IQ 70 very violence prone Somalis, IQ 80 Guatemala street gangs or IQ 85 Mexican workers.

    How much are you concerned about racial purity vs. just having a functioning low crime high IQ productive citizenship? Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong seem to be quite functional.

    Of course there are some problems, like spying for Communist China. Or getting cheap hospital service. I did not know that a 4000 dollar birth was cheap, and that giving birth costs USD 25,000??

    Racial “diversity” might give a bit more conflict.But as long as the English and the Irish don’t get along with each other, and Italians and Russians send over their Mafias, are the Chinese in San Francisco really a problem? Compared to Somalis in Minneapolis, or diversity in Detroit?

    • bv

      Whether it’s Asian or Mestizos it doesn’t really because in the end they’re both alien non whites who will alter the United States to something that it shouldn’t be.

      Great tasting food and lots of pleasant things come from this but is it worth your country and the national character?

    • listenupbub

      There is an issue with loss of cultural identity and racial identity. Chinese create bigger problems than Italians, Irish, and Russians with that. They also vote Democrat, nuff said.

      Get out of the habit of making everything about economic productivity. Besides, we have enough smart whites (and Asians) to take care of our economic needs at this point. We have a surplus of STEM people.

      Italians were a problem back in the day (hey, I’m half-Italian and I can admit this), and they prompted the immigration reform of 1924. Back then Americans cared so much about their identity that even a part-Arab race was not acceptable.

    • Weisheit77

      Relatively speaking, no, it’s not as much of a problem, but when the boat is sinking in the ocean spraying on sweet water because we can drink it, isn’t going to help matters.

  • Max

    When will they implement this policy against our southern border-jumpers who do this piecemeal?

    Never.

  • Magician

    I read some of the reasons white men go for Asian women nowadays, even if the Asian woman is not necessarily attractive, are –

    – They see some white men’s lives being shattered after his white wife cheating on him, or filing for a divorce and take away his kids, 50% of all his properties and 50% of all his earnings in the future

    – The only white women available are often morbidly obese, saturated with nicotine, alcohol, and already has several kids (and some mulatto kids)

    – Some men do find excessive piercings, tattoos a turn off (including me and I am blessed to be married to a woman with exactly 0 tattoos)

    • Tattoos just plain suck.

    • listenupbub

      Intelligence probably has something to do with it, too. White girls are vapid and dumb (not always, but often). Intelligence is attractive, though we always try to deny it.

      • Weisheit77

        How about the kneejerk PC positions that they feel the need to berate you with constantly?

        • listenupbub

          I have no experience with that. But that would also be an example of a white girl being dumb, IMO.

    • Alden

      Asian women can be just as bad as White women. An advantage of an Asian wife is that the White husband and the kids will have access to the clan and it’s helping and support network. The disadvantage is that the American spouse is supposed to allow numerous relatives to crowd his hone and be a green card sponsor for numerous relatives.

    • listenupbub

      I have a second explanation. I can’t believe this escaped me before.

      Asian girls find white males very attractive. Dating an Asian girl is low stress for a white male. She already likes you, and no matter how scrubby you act, you will always look like an Adonis next to the even more boring, phlegmatic, and un-masculine Asian males.

      • Magician

        Then do you have any explanation for why most Asian women in the arms of white men tend to be unattractive? Mark Zuckerberg’s wife is an example

        • listenupbub

          I do agree with everything you said in your original comment, btw.

          The guys who go for Asian-Americans tend to be a little scrubby, in my experience. They have lower standards, they are thirsty, and do not care/cannot tell whether a girl is good-looking or not. I knew a guy who fit this perfectly- and of course he had “yellow-fever.” He went for some very unattractive Asian girls.

          So they get the unattractive ones because they just don’t care. And when Asian girls are petite and feminine (which they are), it gives them even more of an “uglyness-hiding” effect. They’re not ugly, they’re “cute,” like a pug, or a boston terrier.

          I also have experience with highly attractive Asian girls dating scrubby white guys.

          Zuckerberg is actually a perfect example of a white scrub, IMO. It takes
          some people-reading sills to see it, but he is a total “beta.”

          Just like white girls succumbing to the pressure to mate out with black dudes, Asian girls will probably not mate out unless they get too thirsty. I think the hotter Asian girls tend to have Asian boyfriends and tend to be comfortable just dating Asian guys because they have received positive attention from Asian guys in the past.

          The Chinese girls I have met from China do not thirst _at all_ for white guys.

          The high level of Asian-white intermarriage is a testament to the fact that Asian-American guys do not pursue their women aggressively enough. Many of these guys watch lots of porn (with white girls), and get a massive fetish for the more sexual and hot white girl.

          About half of my Asian male friends in college admitted almost no interest in Asian girls.

  • Weisheit77

    As a friend of numerous Chinese from China let me tell you another thing about them.
    Perhaps you look around America and you’ve noticed it’s getting crowded; especially if you’re older than 30. The Chinese look around and notice that there is a lot of places to build things. The Chinese definition of crowded versus the American/European definition of crowded is two totally different things.

    When I hear Chinese people refer to my university town as “the country”, I get scared.
    WE NEED TO CLOSE THE GATES!

  • Alden

    I used to work at a major university. A large percentage of the Asian foreign students were married and had a baby while in the United States.

  • Alden

    Read the article again. They got ” indigent ” rates, probably medi caid

  • InAFreeCountry

    America for Americans? It is laughable now.

  • Whirlwinder

    Why don’t you go to all of the charity hospitals and roust out all the illegal aliens from south of the border and send them back home along with their soon to be children? At least the Asians come with skills and can contribute to society in a positive way.