Farage Ditches Immigration Cap, Days After Ukip Promised to Limit Numbers

Matt Chorley, Daily Mail, March 4, 2015

Nigel Farage was today accused of ‘making it up as he goes along’ as Ukip ditched the idea of capping immigration.

The Ukip leader is setting out his party’s policy on immigration, claiming the current system is ‘unsustainable, unethical and unfair’ and calling for more high-skilled workers and people from the Commonwealth to be allowed into Britain.

But during a radio interview he ditched the idea of reducing net migration to below 50,000, which had been backed by Ukip’s immigration spokesman Steven Woolfe just last week.

A split also emerged over the party’s policy towards people with serious illnesses coming into the UK, with Mr Woolfe backing them but Mr Farage suggesting they were not welcome.

Mr Farage says his party would establish a migration control commission with a remit to reduce net migration into the UK.

In a keynote speech, he will call for future immigration to focus on highly-skilled workers and ‘our friends from the Commonwealth’ as opposed to ‘low-skilled, Eastern European migration’.

The party has attacked David Cameron for failing to meet his promise to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands. New figures last week showed it hit almost 300,000 in the year to September.

In response, Mr Woolfe said: ‘We will set a cap on the number of people permitted to work and reside in the UK by introducing a fairer.’

At last year’s party conference, Mr Woolfe announced: ‘Ukip commits to bringing UK net employment migration down to 50,000 people a year.’

But Mr Farage today jettisoned the idea, claiming that under an Australian-style system it was ‘very unlikely that we would need 50,000 people’.

He told BBC Radio 4’s programme Ukip would bring immigration levels ‘back to normality’, with numbers similar to those seen before 2000.

But he added: ‘I’m not putting caps or targets … you need to have more flexibility than that. The point is this: we currently have no control over the numbers, we are incapable of debating anything now in politics without caps and targets and I think the British public are bored with it.’

He later told BBC News that he had discussed the policy with Mr Woolfe yesterday. ‘Policies evolve, they develop, they move on. I don’t want the emphasis from today to be what our cap is; what I want it to be today is the fact that Ukip is putting forward a policy that will take immigration into Britain back to normal.

‘Our intention is to bring net immigration into Britain back to 20,000 to 50,000 a year. It’s a range, it’s a range. Well again, you see, you can’t help it you guys, you’re obsessed with targets, let’s talk about policy.’

The u-turn was seized on by the Tories as proof that Ukip’s policy was in chaos.

Chancellor George Osborne said: ‘Nigel Farage seems to be making it up as he goes along, one moment he is proposing a cap and then he is ditching it live on air–a novel approach to policy making.

‘We are the people with a sensible plan, whether it’s on the economy or immigration.’

The Conservatives are to repeat the promise to limit net migration to the ‘tens of thousands’, despite missing it so spectacularly.

‘This is absolutely our ambition,’ Mr Osborne said. ‘Of course we haven’t met it in this parliament, as everyone knows.

‘That’s partly because the British economy has been so much stronger than other European economies.

‘But the way to deal with this is the welfare reforms that David Cameron has set out so you can’t just turn up in this country and claim welfare from day one.’

Ukip’s proposals depend on Britain leaving the European Union, and include an Australian-style points-based visa system which, it says, would ensure the right numbers of highly-skilled workers were able to enter the country while imposing a five-year moratorium on visas for unskilled workers.

Rules discriminating between European Union (EU) and non-EU nationals would be abolished, and those workers who qualified under the system would be issued with a visa valid for five years.

During that time, they would not be entitled to claim UK benefits and would be expected to take out health insurance.

After five years they would be entitled to apply for permanent leave to remain, provided they had not broken the law.

Mr Farage said: ‘The British public has acknowledged that they can’t trust the other parties to be serious on immigration.

‘Despite Mr Cameron’s pledge, net migration is now up to 300,000 people per year. It is unsustainable, unfair and unethical.

‘That’s why Ukip has developed a policy focused around an Australian-style points-based system, led by a newly-formed migration control commission, tasked with bringing numbers down and focusing on highly-skilled migrants and our Commonwealth friends–as opposed to the low-skilled, Eastern European migration that the Tories and Labour have expanded.’

Mr Farage insisted ‘normal was from 1950 until the year 2000’.

‘I am not getting caught up with ridiculous arguments about caps,’ he added. ‘There is no U-turn, there is a change of emphasis.’

He went on: ‘Our intention is to bring net immigration into Britain back to 20,000-50,000 a year. That’s a range…

‘You can’t help it, you guys–you are obsessed with targets, obsessed with targets. Let’s talk about policy.’

Mr Farage said a mooted £27,000 lower limit on earnings to gain access to the UK was ‘not absolute’ and there could be exemptions for some skills, such as nurses.

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  • james AZ

    NUTS !!!!!!!!! Muslims in commonwealth , Pakistan , India, and other Muslim former colonies …. Also third world in Africa too

  • corvinus

    Just what the UK needs: fewer Poles, more Nigerians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis.

    It would appear Mr. Farage learned nothing from the Rotherham scandal.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Don’t forget those wonderful Caribbean blacks who were such an important part in setting off the London Riots.

      • corvinus

        Actually, the population pressure in the English-speaking Caribbean has greatly mitigated, so there shouldn’t really be a huge wave from there any more.

      • John Smith

        And all the Yardie gangsters.

    • Publius Pompilius Quietus

      In so many words, Farage is fine with flooding Great Britain with immigrants so far as the black and brown colonizers come from former territories of the British Empire or have an associate’s degree. What an excellent way to continue to abolish the British as an autonomous nation!

    • Veritas

      Clearly, third world muslims who have raped and enslaved white English girls and participated in terrorist attacks in England are far preferable to, say, a Polish carpenter. After all, they are “our friends in the Commonwealth.”

  • The Dude

    The end result of possible exit from the EU is looking more and more as “Less Latvians; more Indians”. I don’t know if it’s such a good idea.

  • stedman holder

    “Nigel Bush”?

    • Jaggers

      Except Bush (Jeb or W) doesn’t even hold up the pretense of reducing immigration.

      • IstvanIN

        The Bush family are just as evil as the Kennedy family.

    • David Ashton

      Farrago of Folly – uttered from a platform peopled almost entirely by black, brown and yellow faces. Not that I ever attack anyone for how they are born. Apart from the terrorists, criminals, dope-mules and workshy who have come here, most immigrants are not as blameworthy as the politicians who brought them here, in the case of Blair’s Labour Party deliberately to turn a British Nation into a Multicultural “Society” as Migration Watch UK have now proved in their latest report.

      • IstvanIN

        most immigrants are not as blameworthy as the politicians who brought them here
        True, they were just taking advantage of an opportunity offed to them. The politicians, on the other hand, need to be tried under crimes against humanity statutes.

        • David Ashton

          How to destroy the “Judeo-Christian” (quote, Farage in US) civilization – inundate it with millions of Muslim, Hindu, Chinese and African colonial settlers.

          But the “Christians” say: “All the ‘refugees’ of the world need us.”
          The “Judeos” say: “We need all the ‘workers’ of the world.”

          The gods destroy those whom they first make mad. “And we are mad….” (quote, Powell in UK).

  • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

    What did anyone expect? ALL elected leaders march to the tune of their true masters. We all know who they are, now don’t we? And we all know they are determined to destroy the white race.

    • David Ashton

      Are “they” really that stupid?

      • Mangosteen, $1000 chair

        Apparently so. I have about as much insight into their minds as I do any non-white, so while it makes no sense to me, it must make perfect sense to them.

        • David Ashton

          Wanting multicultural societies and a global system in which to play a major part is one thing, but to kill the golden geese deliberately is another. Tribute from “the nations” is impossible if there are no nations. Also, the Muslim revival is a spanner in the works. It’s all a bit more complicated and multivalent than you might suppose from a cursory reading of David Duke or even Kevin MacDonald.

  • B.A_2014

    He is a f££king fraud. He’s even worse than the mainstream parties since we know what he actually believes but would rather play politics with his country’s future.

  • Jem wvt

    Why do brits have rotten yellow teeth?

  • David Ashton

    We don’t need many more immigrant-settlers in England anyway.
    And the endless stream of “refugees” and “asylum seekers” and “health tourists” and “persecuted gays” and, and, and – should now go or stay some place else than England, Europe or Europe Overseas.

    • Jeff

      Just speculation on my part as I’m not British, but isn’t it likely that ukip is maneuvering for reasons of political expediency? Are there political reasons that prohibit him from directly advocating for closed borders period?

      In these perilous times, it appears obvious that his opponents are attempting to corral him into a “racist” position in order to discredit him.

      Perhaps you can shed some light?

      • David Ashton

        I agree with your second paragraph, but his speech against “caps” is mysterious – it can work both ways of course. The “racist” word is slowly becoming meaningless and useless, and will not deter his core voters or lose him ordinary white working class support, but there are strict controls on so-called “hate” speech. I have serious disagreements with UKIP, but I hope Farage and others are elected, because it will send more than a “message” to Westminster.

  • Jem wvt

    Do Polish immigrants assimilate into the UK or do they still speak polish and have Polish communities?

    • John Smith

      They’re mad because Poles actually eat the fish they catch at pay fishing lakes, unlike native Britons, who throw them back. WSJ (IIRC) had a whole article on this some years back and the anger it caused.

      • corvinus

        Why catch a fish and throw it back? Complete waste of time.

        • John Smith

          English are eccentric, to put it mildly.

          • David Ashton

            We used to have eccentrics, part of our charm. Now lunatics run the asylum. Poles in general are OK and it was the Communist Party that wanted our Polish ex-servicemen deported to the Soviet hell-hole after the war. However, we get a huge number of criminals from eastern and south-eastern Europe, and Poles make up a huge percentage of our prison population.

        • IstvanIN

          People do that here in the US as well. The satisfaction comes from catching the fish, not really so odd.

    • Awakened Saxon

      Polish is the second most commonly spoken language in Britain. They are not assimilating, nor should they. To assimilate so many Poles would cause permanent changes to the native gene pool.

  • It Tolls for Thee

    UKIP is just like the Tea Party over here. They sound good up front, but in the end they sell out like all the neocons in the US (look at the DHS bill that was passed with no immigration amnesty defunding).

    The only political party that will truly do anything for Britain is the British National Party, and most of the idiots in the British electorate won’t vote for them b/c they’re “fascist,” “racist” or whatever.

    The generation that weathered the Blitz in WW2 is long gone. This current crop of Brits is probably gonna be the last. It’s not easy to squander thousands of years of civilization, but somehow they’re gonna manage to do it.

    • NoMosqueHere

      Easy come, easy go. The WWII generation fought and died for their freedom. Many of their obnoxious grandchildren have made few if any sacrifices.

      • Awakened Saxon

        It is amazing that people still can not connect the dots between Britain’s war against Europe and Britain’s current condition.

      • IstvanIN

        They didn’t need to die, however. Hitler offered Great Britain very generous peace (not surrender) terms: Germany would leave the UK and the Empire alone and intact as long as Britain stayed out of European affairs. Keep in mind the UK declared war on Germany, not the other way around. They knew they couldn’t defend Poland and had no intention of doing so. In fact Poland was sold down the river by Britain.

  • C. Magnus

    So that’s what he meant by ‘Commonwealth’… not Aus, NZ and Canada as I first thought.

    • Alden

      Ever seen those pictures of ER2during the commonwealth conferences? There she is, surrounded by the bloodiest black dictators on the planet. No one from the White commonwealth would migrate to Britain. British affirmative action is as bad as America’s.

  • TruthBeTold

    He later told BBC News that he had discussed the policy with Mr Woolfe yesterday. ‘Policies evolve, they develop, they move on.

    Translation: ‘I said what I needed to say to win the election but now that I’ve won, I’ll ignore the people who voted for me based on my platform’.

  • NationalFront

    What an idiot I hope everyone noticed the word “net” immigration. So if 150,000 brits leave every year Nigel would be happy with 200,000 Africans, Pakistanis and the rest of em. Ukip is slowing inching the country in the right direction but they are clearly not the solution. The only credible Nationalist race conscious party’s out there that would halt the invasion are the BNP, Liberty GB, or Britain First. I personally prefer the BNP as they are the only party out of the three that has won seats in the E.U and a good deal of council seats as well.

  • WR_the_realist

    Farage has just jumped the shark. Fewer Poles but more blacks from Commonwealth islands. Looks like it’s time to go back to the BNP, or whatever has replaced it.

    • Awakened Saxon

      The BNP is another false hope. Their leader is a race-mixer married to a Japanese woman.

      • WR_the_realist

        How’s he any worse than our favorite felon? Michael Christopher Scott, if you were Great Britain’s Overlord, how much immigration would you allow into Britain, of whom and from where?

        Sheesh, the uber purists will destroy any hope of success for us.

        Ban him…

        He’s married to a Japanese woman!
        He’s married to a Jew!
        He thinks Thomas Sowell is a decent human being!

        • Awakened Saxon

          It tells me a lot about your standards (or lack thereof) that you call me an ‘uber purist’ for my expectation that a nationalist party not be led by the father of two mongrels. What success will such a person lead Britain to? As made obvious by his choice of a wife, his goal is not a nationalist Britain.

          Britain needs no immigration, however if it were to receive any at all then the Anglo-Saxons returning from the former colonies would make the most sense – not Poles, not Romanians, not gypsies, not Africans, and not Asians.

          • WR_the_realist

            It seems to me you’d rather have as prime minister a white man married to a white woman with 100% white children who will also keep immigration above 600,000 a year, mostly non-white, than a white man married to a Japanese woman who would slash immigration and deport illegals and bogus asylum seekers.

            That is why we keep losing.

          • Awakened Saxon

            We keep losing because we haven’t been sufficiently accepting of race-mixers as our leaders? Sure.

  • John Smith

    What a sellout – it is exactly “Commonwealth” immigrants from (Africa, India, Pakistan, the Caribbean, etc.) who are darkening up the shores of the UK and sucking off the dole, not Polish plumbers and other tradesmen, who are paying their own way.

  • What I find truly fantastic is that limiting immigration to only highly skilled individuals is apparently some kind of outlandish thought… as a government, your goal with immigration is to ensure that immigrants are bringing skills, money, abilities, etc. Into your country, is it not? Anything less, like the seemingly universal “white” immigration system of letting the LEAST skilled and most likely to TAKE from your countries resources, is nothing short of treasonous. How in the world is THAT the standard policy? How have we, collectively as a people, allowed our governments to actively sabotage OUR poor, needy, and out of work, by bringing in poorer, needier, and less capable, and then catering to this new, artificially introduced bottom class?

    I really don’t understand … how can one argue AGAINST limiting immigration to those who can potentially be a net positive gain? The only argument FOR the vurrent systems is “oh, well, these people from third world countries are poverty stricken and can’t take care of themselves” but why, exactly, is that OUR problem? Why, exactly do we need to be the caregiver to the world, when we cant even care for our own?

    It’s truly incredible that this is where we find ourselves … in some kind of upside down, through the looking glass world where good is bad, right is wrong, and white must be replaced with muddled seas of brown.

    • It is incredible. Furthermore, the liberal-hearted “but they are so poor and we can give them a better life” lines have been destroyed with great style with the American “Immigration Gum Balls” video that can be found on youtube.

  • KenelmDigby

    I still say that UKIP are the only hope for Britain.
    It must be remembered that UKIP are on the verge of major success in UK politics. Now, in order to be elected certain posturing must be made, including not stressing the ‘race’ aspect of mass immigration. If UKIP fell into the trap of emphasising ‘race’ then they would be demonized and destroyed by the UK establishment. Life is tough enough for UKIP as it is, it is the victim of incessant nasty attacks.
    Make no mistake, UKIP are definitely an anti-immigration party, in fact the only electable anti-immigration party.

    • jayvbellis

      Yes, that’s a good spin. Spin it more suggesting that high skilled Canadians and Australians will comprise most of the Commonwealth immigration.

    • Awakened Saxon

      Who is to say that all the parties are not simply posturing? What makes UKIP’s anti-British rhetoric any less believable to you than the same rhetoric from other parties?

      • KenelmDigby

        Sorry, but it’s just my gut-feeling that the senior UKIP people are secretly appalled by what’s happening to Britain, but are too cagey and wise than to actually blurt out there real opinions and policy solutions. Suffice to say that they are serious about slashing immigration. The same definitely cannot be said of the legacy parties.

    • WR_the_realist

      You’re imagining that UKIP’s actual immigration policy will be harder line than their rhetoric, when we have seen that with politicians from any country the exact opposite is true.

      • KenelmDigby

        Immigration is UKIP’s USP. Without it they’d just be a fringe nutter party with pitiable support. For that reason alone I suspect they sincere in what they seek to do.

  • More “Commonwealth” immigration probably means Caribbean blacks, as most of the Australians, Canadians and New Zealanders I have known do not want to live in Britain.

  • NorthernWind

    The Commonwealth doesn’t exist. It has been dead for decades now. Besides, do you really want Nigerians over Poles? I wouldn’t…

    The only sensible immigration policy is a ZERO admission policy with some exceptions (allowing White South Africans in or White British who want to return home for example). Any other policy is madness.

    • frederickdixon

      White people of British descent should be the only ones with a right to settle in the United Kingdom. When temporary labour is needed from abroad it should be recruited exclusively from other White countries (particularly in Eastern Europe), non-whites should not be admitted at all.

  • Alden

    Commonwealth means black and brown. E.Europe means blonde, blue and White. There are few skilled jobs for White native British in the UK. Witness the medical professions, incompetent commonwealth immigrants abound, but there are few native British.

    • Awakened Saxon

      It sounds to me like you support the replacement of the British, but you only disagree with Farage as to which group should be the replacers.

  • jayvbellis

    Oh dear.

    England does indeed seemed to be cursed.

    It might be the murdered souls of German civilians slaughtered in the saturation bombings of civilian neighborhoods in Hamburg and Dresden in the final year of World War II.

    By the way, England/Britain lost World War II. England was a Germanic nation at the time, composed of a population of Angles, Saxons, Normans, Vikings – all solid Germanic, Nordic people.

    What were they thinking?

    What are they thinking now where the only “patriot”, “nationalist” party leader UKIP favors more Commonwealth (Pakistani Muslim, Black West Indies) immigration?

    Hey English, British- please make the pilgrimage to Dresden and then go to the statue of Bomber Harris, say you are “sorry” and spit upon the cowardly vile creature Harris who has undoubtedly brought the wrath of the Germanic, Anglo Saxon spirits down on not so merry old England.

  • Alden

    I agree. There was never any question of Germany attempting to conquer Britain. Hitler made that very clear from 1935 right up to the end. The whole WW2 glorification of Britian’s role in WW2 is ridiculous. Basically they ran when Germany crossed the French border. Then spent the next 2 years conning and conniving to get the US into it. The Americans, not the British fought the war in the Pacific and Europe.
    The British were bombed. But the rest of Europe suffered under German and Russian occupation. For the working class, the war years were the best in centuries. The workplace dining halls replaced meals of bread, marge and jam. The second hand clothing drives meant warm winter clothes.

    The Hitler channel and YKW propaganda worships the war monger Churchill and denigrates those who hoped to avoid another catastrophe. But the despised working class did the right thing in the 1945 election, they got rid of Churchill. Let’s look at Churchill’s real legacy, the loss of the Empire to American commercial interests and turning over 11Central and Eastern European countries and China to communism.

  • newscomments70

    They all betray us eventually. The voters ditched Nick Griffin for a lying neo-con.

  • Tony Murphy

    I hope UKIP do well but one thing is certain in this uncertain world: Farage will ditch his principles at the first whiff of power.

  • Larry Klein

    Let’s face it, whites are poised to go the way of the dodo’s. They are incapable to see the plainly obvious, that they are being overrun and displaced in their own homelands. Or maybe it’s a case of cowardice. Either way if you have even the likes of UKIP being squishy and nonsensical, it doesn’t bode well.

  • jayvbellis

    Juan Boehner’s Washington and Ohio state offices were not accepting calls to live staff members last week. I know, I tried very hard to get through – you just get put to an audio tape of “Big Brother” Boehner.

    What do we do?

    I’m going for the occult and will do Black magic curse spells against him, this involves burying parts of dead animals, photos of Boehner burying the occult curse spell offering in grave yards or cross roads.

  • Konstantinos Fasouletos

    The theft of this country by Mexicans and non-Whites is in full mode. Second or third time this week i heard in a bank and in a supermarket, White Men and Women talking about how friends/family have just been laid off and replaced.