Tape: Scientist Offers to Build Nuke Bomb Targeting New York

Russell Contreras, Yahoo! News, January 28, 2015

A disgruntled, former Los Alamos National Laboratory scientist promised to build 40 nuclear weapons for Venezuela in 10 years and design a bomb targeted for New York City in exchange for “money and power,” according to secret FBI recordings released Wednesday.

In the recordings, Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni tells an agent posing as a Venezuelan official that the bombs would prevent the United States from invading the oil-rich nation and brags to his wife that the passing of secrets would make him wealthy.

“I’m going to be the boss with money and power,” the naturalized U.S. citizen from Argentina is heard saying. “I’m not an American anymore. This is it.”

Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni

Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni

Mascheroni said his New York bomb wouldn’t kill anyone but would disable the city’s electrical system and help Venezuela become a nuclear superpower. It was not known how realistic his New York bombing idea was.

But he suggested that once Venezuela obtained a bomb, the country should explode it “to let the world know what we’ve got,” according to the recordings.

The recordings were played Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Albuquerque before a federal judge sentenced Mascheroni, 79, to five years in prison followed by three years of supervised release as part of a plea agreement.

Mascheroni and his wife, Marjorie Roxby Mascheroni, pleaded guilty in 2013 to offering to help develop a nuclear weapon for Venezuela through dealings with an undercover FBI agent posing as a representative of the South American country.


Before his indictment, Mascheroni was under investigation for about a year. The FBI had seized computers, letters, photographs, books and cellphones from the couple’s Los Alamos home.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Mascheroni said he believed the U.S. government was wrongly targeting him as a spy and denied the accusations.

The scientist said he approached Venezuela after the United States rejected his theories that a hydrogen-fluoride laser could produce nuclear energy.

Mascheroni worked in the nuclear weapons design division at the Los Alamos lab from 1979 until he was laid off in 1988. His wife, a technical writer, worked there between 1981 and 2010.

He told The AP that he was motivated by his belief in cleaner, less expensive and more reliable nuclear weapons and power. He began approaching other countries after his ideas were rejected by the lab and, later, congressional staffers.

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  • SentryattheGate

    This does not surprise me! Many foreigners come here for the money, and don’t develop a loyalty to US. When I worked at Los Alamos, in the late 70’s, there were lots of Chinese there. I was shocked; what were these enemies doing at our top-secret scientific labs? Some of them were later caught selling our latest technology to China—why should this be a surprise to anyone?

    • Anglokraut

      A Chinese scientist working at NOAA was recently caught with a trail of emails back to China in which she agreed to send classified information on American dams to her true home.

      • John Smith

        And yet we still employ foreign nationals as govt. employees.

        • archer

          As I’ve said before, you can lay most of our problems on the people who live on Potomac.

    • True, and I bet if you or anyone else dared to question the presence of so many Chinese, you would have been sent to ‘sensitivity training.’ The government doesn’t want anyone questioning the obvious.

      • Ultimate187

        He probably should have done it. Political correctness doesn’t extend to Asians nearly as much as it does to blacks, hispanics, natives etc

    • Ultimate187

      During Operation Paperclip, the US brought over hundreds of Nazi scientists to work in American industries. Let’s not pretend like we’re upholding any standards or morals here; our history says that we don’t.

      • Weisheit77

        But that was after they were defeated and not while we were actively fighting them.

        • Ultimate187

          By that logic, we’re not at war with China or Venezuela, so accepting workers from there is okay. Most people here would probably disagree with that.

      • SentryattheGate

        It was a mad rush between US and the Soviets to capture Nazi scientists at WWII’s end. Should we have let the Soviets, who killed ~40-50 million of their own, have all that expertise? I realize that the US does not have a monopoly on truth and righteousness. And I do not agree with our reckless foreign policy.

      • propagandaoftruth

        He seems kind of kookoo like coco puffs to me.

  • LHathaway

    This only reminds me of Charlton Heston in the ‘Planet of the Apes’ movie.

    • TheAntidote

      It’s a madhouse! A madhouse!

  • dd121

    This smells of a hoax. I doubt if he could squarely hit a nail with a hammer.

    • Anglokraut

      He doesn’t look very Italian, Spanish, or German–the founding peoples of Argentina. the Amerind is strong with this one–or one of those Japanese Brazilians is close up in his ancestry.

      • It does look like he is growing breasts.

        • IstvanIN

          That is mean. Just an old man. Rotten old man, true, but not growing breasts.

        • Anglokraut

          Those bags under his eyes could be indicative of high cholesterol. More likely that he’s a bitter ol’ half-breed.

  • Chip Carver

    No surprises here. The US is under the control of people who hate Whites and the West, and they have been doing their level best to inculcate the same hatred into all non-whites, while working hard on another front to get whites to hate themselves.

    • LHathaway

      You win for statement of the month . . .

  • Hang this ba$tard in Times Square.

  • MekongDelta69

    Maybe another con can sidle up to Pedro Leonardo Mascheroni and ‘welcome‘ him to the Pen.


  • I think this is great. Someone who wants to do that gets a good job, while I write naval history articles and make fishing tackle.

  • Simonetta

    Hey, the guy’s 79 years old. He’s opinionated and his mind is weak. He still thinks that he’s found some form of cold fusion and his discoveries have been suppressed. He’s no threat.

    Besides, everybody knows how to make an atomic bomb. Sure, there are a few details that are kept deep secret. But the all the essential knowledge is out there already.

    What isn’t out there is the material needed to make a bomb. The plutonium and the enriched uranium. And for that matter, actual bombs themselves. You can’t buy these things. You can’t steal them. You can’t blackmail anyone to give you access to them. You can’t form some political alliance and get access to someone else’s bombs.

    If you want a nuclear bomb, then you have to make one yourself. And that means buying and running many thousands of specialized centrifuges to separate uranium isotopes from raw ore. And obtaining all this ore. And obtaining the equipment. And doing it right under the noses of all the various agencies of the UN and the nuclear powers who don’t want you to do this and know what to look for.

    The only people who have obtained the bomb in the past 40 years have been the Indians, the Pakistanis, the North Koreans, and the South Africans. And the South Africans gave up their bomb.

    So don’t worry about this old fool.

    • TheAntidote

      Indeed the Venezuelans cannot even provide toilet paper for their populace. Confiscating oil fields and blowhard, bombastic speeches are more up their alley than atomic energy.

    • South Africa had something like 5 or 6 devices with yields in the 14 kiltoton range. I think it’s a shame they destroyed them and didn’t turn them over to the ANC when apartheid ended.

  • John Smith

    Nuking NYC would probably be a good thing.

  • SentryattheGate

    About 1/3rd of Chicago is Hispanic. If you attend a Navy boot camp graduation, do NOT stay at a Mexican-run hotel, of which there are many!

    • LHathaway

      They’re not Indian run?

      • SentryattheGate

        Well, maybe they are Indian-owned (considering how they have taken a lot of that market) but the staff was Latinas. It was a third-rate hovel! It looked like some of these Latinos lived there—maybe bought by the gov’t. to house illegals, so-called “refugees”.

  • WR_the_realist

    There was a time, when our national leaders had stones, when a scientist who revealed nuclear secrets to a foreign nation would get the electric chair. Now he can plea bargain to the sort of sentence we give someone convicted of third degree robbery.

  • As a US scientist, I can say that no one wants US scientists /engineers. It’s not a question of competence [we are more competent]. It’s simply that vitually all other nations take paisn to preserve their own groups of these while the USA infinitely prefers foreign nationals.

    • LHathaway

      Europeans have been working on some kind of ‘fission’ or something for decades, haven’t they? It’s some kind of more efficient nuclear energy. In the US, we haven’t built a single new nuclear power facility in around 30 or 40 years. That seems kind of suspicious. They are constructing new nuclear power plants now. They are supposedly somewhat more efficient but nothing like what the Europeans were working on. Whatever it was, it must have failed . . .

      • There is an international group, currently building a test facility based in Cadarache, France. It’s a controlled FUSION plant, not fission, and is called ITER.

        The sun, as with all stars, uses a fusion process but we don’t have the gravity on Earth for that kind of fusion process. The problem with FISSION, the process everyone uses now, is the long term heavy metal radioactive waste. Half life around 100,000 years so we have to bury it in salt mines. Fission uses Uranium or Plutonium for fuel.

        Fusion just uses hydrogen gas for fuel, has no heavy elements, and the small amount of waste residuals have a half life on the order of perhaps 20 years.

        I used to be a real fusion enthusiast and even tried to work on a fusion project (but our Gov’t uses foreign nationals for that type of research in my field). Also I believe the demographic problem: e.g. elimination of whites [caucasians], is more of a critical and immediate issue, than either global warming, or developing much better energy sources.

        • LHathaway

          I just watched a youtube video today discussing volcanos and plate tectonics. If they earth is 4 billion years old, it’s sure taking a long time for it to cool! So perhaps it is gravity keeping must of it/us molten?

          What is your theory as to why we went something like 40 years (until very recently) without building a single new nuclear power plant? Simply economics? Could be any number of other reasons . . . Care to weigh in or make a guess?

          • On nuclear energy I think the intermission in the building of new nuclear plants has been due to several factors. I should mention that only fission is really used for power and weapons: we think we know how to do fusion but it still requires billions of $ and years of R&D.*

            There is an article on Wikipaedia “Economics of Nuclear Power Plants” which goes into more detail than I can here. It seems that there is a combination of 2 or more factors.

            1) Nuke plants are very expensive to build (3 to 10 billion $) and due to legal issues take a long time to complete: one article mentions 20 to 30 years while another, apparently predicting no political problems, estimates 7 years.

            2) There is legitimate fear about storing the radiactive waste, which remains radioactive for a very long time (half life on the order of 100,000 years). In addition to this there is all sorts of added political panic about the dangers of radiation and of the plants so when one is built you have a lot of people protesting at the construction site. The radiation is such a problem that eventually the whole plant becomes too radioactive for the operators to work there and must be “decomissioned” at an estimated cost of 1/2 billion $ after a 20 or 30 year life cycle.

            Nonetheless there are 71 new plants being built globally as of 2015. Operating costs, once built are very attractive.
            “In Ontario, hydroelectricity and nuclear have by far the cheapest generation costs, at 4.3c/kWh and 5.9c/kWh respectively, whilst solar costs a massive 50.4c/kWh.”from the above mentioned Wikipaedia article. a kWh is a kilowatt – hour.

            The big advantages to Nuclear are low fuel costs and the fact that there are no Greenhouse gases emitted. The small amount of CO2 attributed to such occurs during construction apparently. However when oil prices plunge or the US finds an immense amount of Natural Gas, this hurts the nuclear industry. However to be fair, the US, Europe, and the whole world get oil so cheaply because the USA spends trillions of $ on it’s military to ensure the safe flow of oil from the Middle East. If these costs were added to the cost of oil, then nuclear may be much more attractive.

            Now there seems also to be a lot of confusion about global warming. This should be a relatively clear cut issue but the baseline scientific data seems to have a lot of political noise in it. When I googled it, I got the following:
            “There is no scientific consensus that global warming is occurring and caused by man: Questions are not decided by “consensus.” In fact, many scientific theories that were once widely believed to be true were made irrelevant by new evidence.Feb 18, 2014″

            Another search yielded a completely different result; this one seems more credable? (see the NASA chart below).

            If that latest chart is true and if the trend continues upwards without reaching a safe plateau, then it could have wide reaching effects. Since hydroelectric power is limited and wind/solar very expensive and unreliable, then we have to go nuclear.

            Earlier I posted that an equilibrium Stefan-Boltzmann radiation calculation showed that the Earth could reach 661 F if runaway global warming occurred. While nobody thinks things will get that bad, more immediate effects could be global shortages of water, lack of land for food production, and greatly increased pressures on all people to secure those resources. Were this a white, civilized world, then I think people would probably go full steam ahead on building regular nuke plants and also on fusion research. This would essentially stop man-made greenhouse gasses production and things should go back to normal. Also, eventually fusion energy will give us the stars (i.e. the ability to colonize our solar system). As it now is I wish for us to sort out our demographics problems before sending out black space colonists.

            Thus aside from the nuclear radiation scare, there is also a scare about global warming. China alone is building 25 new fission nuclear reactors as well as being involved in the fusion research. I guess we’ll have to import another 250,000 Indian engineers and scientists, per year, to get things moving over here now…

            *The small amount of fusion in a “fusion” or hydrogen bomb apparently has negligable energy output but merely serves the increase the neutron flux and enhance the efficiency of the fission reaction in the bomb.

            **My background is a degree in chemistry during which I worked as an electrochemist for a guy who won the Nobel Award out of Penn in 2000 (Alan MacDiarmid). Also I have a Master’s in Chemical Engineering and work doing CFD or “computational fluid dynamics”. I do not work directly in the nuclear industry, but have done CFD projects for that industry.

          • LHathaway

            No global warming scientist has explained why it has gotten colder since 1999. At least it has where I live. It’s sad they are building so many new reactors. What happens when fusion comes on line (if it does). What happens when containment fails (you know it will)? As long as they are prepared for that and this cost is considered.

          • LHathaway

            when i discussed early. . the earth cooling over 4 billion years, or is it 5 or 6 billion years? They always say the earth cooled (and a solid crust formed) after a few million years or something? Well, going by their own logic and assumptions. . shouldn’t the rest of the Earth have cooled. . oh, some time in the 4 billion years since? I don’t know.

        • SentryattheGate

          Claudius, you may find this interesting; Asian-American Studies (Ford and Rockefeller Foundation-funded) professor at UC-Davis Darrell Hamamoto, in his book, Servitors of Empire, reports on why Indians and Chinese are being imported en masse to head up the top tiers of US science, engineering, technology (and Latinos to head up the welfare/social services “culture”). He has been punished by UC for revealing all this, by cutting his pay by 25%. Interestingly, UC’s president is now Janet Napolitano, ex-head of Homeland Security, and ex-governor of Arizona (where she opposed citizen propositions to secure their border and refuse benefits to illegals).

          • LHathaway

            They’re being imported here, same as all the other immigrants, who happen to nearly all be men, they are here to marry affirmative action females . . . The have similar ‘interests’, it turns out. It could start in the way they got their jobs.

  • Dale McNamee

    Why aren’t these “creatures” exterminated ? I guess treason doesn’t matter to “our betters” that infest the government….

    Maybe it’ll take a nuke attack to wake people up… I hope not !

  • Joe Biden

    He is only facing 5 years. Is this a joke??

  • henry ong

    Hey guys do not get carried away about this fellow or statement that he can make a nuke.
    To me he looks more like a con artist to make a fast buck from Venezuela.

  • David Ashton

    Don’t forget bio-war and cyber-war.