Acceptance Rates at US Medical Schools in 2014 Reveal Ongoing Discrimination

Mark J. Perry, AEI, January 4, 2015

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The table above (click to enlarge) of US medical school acceptance rates is a revised and updated version of one I’ve posted several times before, here’s a link to the most recent CD post on this topic from July 2014. The series of posts on medical school acceptance rates by race/ethnic groups for various MCAT scores and GPAs has generated a lot of interest and comments in the past, so I’m posting on the topic again with new data for the 2014-2015 academic year that just recently became available from the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC). {snip}

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Here are some observations based on the new AAMC data:

  1. For those applicants to US medical schools last year with average GPAs (3.40 to 3.59) and average MCAT scores (27 to 29), black applicants were 4 times more likely to be admitted to medical school than Asians in that applicant pool (81.0% vs. 20.4%), and 2.7 times more likely than white applicants (81.1% vs. 30.6%). Likewise, Hispanic applicants to medical school with average GPAs and MCAT scores were twice as likely as whites in that applicant pool to be admitted to medical school (61.7% vs. 30.6%), and three times more likely than Asians (61.7% vs. 20.4%). Overall, black (81%) and Hispanic (64.1%) applicants with average GPAs and average MCAT scores were accepted to US medical schools in 2014 at rates (81.1% and 64.1% respectively) much higher than the 32.3% average acceptance rate for all students in that applicant pool.
  2. For students applying to medical school with slightly below average GPAs of 3.20 to 3.39 and slightly below average MCAT scores of 24 to 26 (first data column in the table, shaded light blue), black applicants were 9 times more likely to be admitted to medical school than Asians (58.7% vs. 6.5%), and 7.2 times more likely than whites (58.7% vs. 8.2%). Compared to the average acceptance rate of 18.1% for all applicants with that combination of GPA and MCAT score, black and Hispanic applicants were much more likely to be accepted at rates of 58.7% and 30.9%, and white and Asian applicants were much less likely to be accepted to US medical schools at rates of only 8.2% and 6.5%

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  • dd121

    Most white doctors don’t like it, but they’re under the same AA pressure that other institutions and businesses are.

    • Bartek

      Why wouldn’t they like it?
      Many, if not most “White” doctors I have seen in the big city I live are advocates of anti-White “social justice”.

      • dd121

        Most doctors realize that when an unqualified black is selected for medical school, there is a qualified white or oriental that didn’t get accepted. The medical school won’t however send him a registered letter stating that he just got screwed.
        Most of the white doctors I know are on the conservative side.

        • dukem1

          Problem is, how many of the White and Asian applicants who are shoved aside go to Plan B… Law school?
          Also, to make things even richer, I think I’ve read that there are parts of the ACA requiring, essentially, even more outreach to our dusky brethren.

          • dd121

            I don’t know about law school but many keep reapplying and get accepted eventually. I’m sure we’ll never know the numbers or who it was who got screwed. But it is a zero sum equation.

        • DaveMed

          Doctors in private practice tend to be “conservative.” Those in academic medicine are often flamingly anti-White.

        • LHathaway

          “Most doctors realize that when an unqualified black is selected for medical school” “Most of the white doctors I know are on the conservative side”.

          Are you suggesting these two things are related?
          I’m surprised you are an acquaintance of so many doctors, even to the point of knowing their politics or do you have some other way of knowing this? Is this also common knowledge.

          • MooTieFighter

            “I’m surprised you are an acquaintance of so many doctors”. Why? I think you would be surprised at who and what many of us are. Many in medicine are VERY politically active.

          • dd121

            My daughter is a doctor as are many of her friends. I know most of them. There are several posters here on AmRen who are physicians. Maybe some of them could weigh in.

          • Bunky

            Everyone I know is an Md.
            How about that?

          • HE2

            White M.D. here who, with a host of other co-worker White docs, quit early.
            Yes, a dramatic political shift occurred among us as a result of 1] BHO as president, 2] his boondoggle “care” package, and 3] the numbers of lesser skilled ethnicities replacing those who retired, transferred out, or quit.
            If BHO has his way, soon, there will be almost no White doctors.
            That is, in fact, one of the provisions within the BHO care document. Specifically, more Affirmative Action admitted blacks.
            Believe me, health care will suffer as a result of this disaster.
            The only ones not shifting politically are those still deeply buried in didactics/academia, away from the teeming masses.

          • dd121

            Thanks for your post. I noticed in your bio that you’ve probably seen your share of black people with holes in them.
            It’s truly a shame what’s happening to the medical profession.
            The “meritocracy” people used to talk about is long gone.

          • HE2

            Indeed, dd.
            In fact, the exposure deepened my awareness of intractable black pathology far beyond multiple gunshot wounds; most are mentally defective.
            Blacks are a hopeless species that contributes nothing but violence and destruction.
            Unfortunately, they breed like rabbits, beginning in their teens.

      • MooTieFighter

        Appears that way on TV, but most I have met/know are very conservative and HATE the affordable care act.

  • MekongDelta69

    Qualification for blacks to be admitted to anywhere and anything:
    1.) Breathing

    The End…

    • Irishgirl

      I can’t breathe!

      Shoot, now I probably owe the Garner family $1 million.

      • MooTieFighter

        It goes much further than this. They are often have special tutors through med school, free of charge. My best friend is an internist. He told me the blacks in his class had actually met three months prior to everyone else’s arrival and had workshops, “pre-classes”, and assistance getting set up. Things that were not offered to anyone else. He admitted that only one out of all the blacks there had any clue, whatsoever. They also take more qualified positions from others in residency, as well. It never stops.

    • Anon Emus

      If you can’t breathe, you can still be a cadaver.

  • Easyrhino

    Makes it harder and harder to find a good White doctor as they’re booked months in advance if they’re even seeing new patients.

  • superlloyd

    An inverse ratio of abillity to acceptance. That should work out well. This shows how morally bankrupt and potentially life threatening AA is.

  • John Smith

    This is a very bad omen.

    Comparing so called “equal” grades between blacks and whites doesn’t account for AA incompetent blacks being soft balled through med school.

    There are already enough incompetent WHITE doctors causing innocent people to get sick, or worse to die.

    In the years/decades to come, many people of all races will be harmed by this.

    PS – I’ll wager that the white (gentile) discrimination rate might actually by worse because so many Jews are in the profession; counted as white.

    • APaige

      I remember a study for 2010 the examined applicants to medical school. The criteria was MCAT, GPA, and GPA in science courses. Asians accepted to medical school scored one point higher on the MCAT than Whites. Whites had the higher GPA and science GPA. In order of qualifications those who applied to med school was as follows:
      1. White accepted into med school
      2. Asians accepted into med school
      3. Whites not accepted into med school
      4. Asians not accepted into med school
      Whites and Asians not accepted into med school scored higher on the MCAT and had higher GPAs than the Blacks and Hispanics who were accepted.

    • Spikeygrrl

      A lot of Jews ARE White.

  • Yves Vannes

    The chickens coming home to roost at the AMA. They are so deluded they probably think this is a good thing.

    • DaveMed

      Most academic physicians are hopelessly “liberal” when it comes to race. I hold these people in special contempt because we, as a community, ought to know better.

      • Raydonn

        My alma mater (dental) looks like the UN these days…….

        • DaveMed

          I’ve had the same thought about my class.

      • HE2

        Dave, I just posted this too.
        Academic types in their ivory towers do not have to deal with “the teeming masses.”

  • Dave West

    That’s interesting, libtards always assure me that it is white males who are the recipients of “undeserved” privilege.

  • LHathaway

    The bigger problem is people of color all over the world studying here and then taking the best jobs here. There are armies of poor blacks in every major city. It’s true, all women and people of color are eligible for birth to death affirmative action in their schools/on their jobs. But it’s also true, in hiring the foreign born, in order to meet their diversity quotas, business and government are discriminating against people of color born in this nation. It must be a matter or ethics. As long as a certain number of white men are displaced, or a X amount of color is added to the mix, it’s A-OK to discriminate against people of color born in this nation.
    It’s likely a matter of adjusting to realities. There are limits to the number of white women willing to take up with black men, they have too much concern for the black family. Why else would companies be hiring foreign born elite in this nation in order to ‘make up for discrimination’? I guess sometimes discrimination is OK, even against people of color born in this nation.

    • HE2

      all women and people of color are eligible for birth to death affirmative action in their schools/on their jobs.

      Wait a minute. I was not AA admitted into med school, internship or residency.
      Wondering, am I the only female M.D. here?

      • LHathaway

        I don’t know, but I’m a former mercenary, heavily active in the Angola campaign?

        • HE2

          LHathaway….For real?

          • LHathaway

            Yeah, and I ran the hundred meters in 8 seconds in HS.

          • HE2

            I was having you on, LHathaway.
            You think I believed you?

      • dd121

        Affirmative action doesn’t apply to white women or orientals.

        • LHathaway

          Are you kidding? Diversity means women and any people of color. From day one on the job until retirement these groups will benefit from affirmative action. Both the rhetoric and the social and career favoritism. It is true that at some specific colleges, before that career path has been tread, Asian applicants are at a disadvantage. How difficult is it for an Asians to apply to another college, one where they are still favored as being ‘diversity’?

          • DaveMed

            I have no intention of living my life begrudging opportunities afforded White women.

          • LHathaway

            I will live the rest of my life doing nothing else.

          • HE2

            LHathaway, respectfully, I wish to ask: are you opposed to a White female succeeding in her career?
            For the record, I am not spoiling for an online debate.

          • dd121

            White women do as well on the MCAT as white men or they don’t go to med school. People of Chinese/Japanese get passed over for acceptance all the time in universities. It’s been written about many times. The main people to benefit from AA are blacks and Hispanics.

          • LHathaway

            This shifting sands of affirmative action, that has mostly applied to white women. How about we end the stereotyping I love to do and the misinformation I’ve picked up and remove affirmative action for everyone?

  • Johnny Harper

    Whats new? White men are basically getting crushed in Medical School (as well as the rest of academia)

    Blacks, Arabs, all other non White groups (including Asians) are highly privileged over White males.

    Blacks, Hispanics, etc get open preference and Affirmative Action. Once they get into medical school, they get brought in “early” for tutor sessions that essentially give them the answers for the tests. They can then band together in the African American, Hispanic, etc groups where they share information.

    Women also have “Women in Medicine” groups.

    Asians are notorious for sharing insider information concerning tests, labs, etc.

    White men are isolated while in medical school. Unless they have a well connected Daddy they are basically on their own. They have no organization or group to join. They are kept out of the “inside” study track.

    • 4321realist

      “Once they get into medical school, they get brought in “early” for tutor sessions that essentially give them the answers for the tests. They can then band together in the African American, Hispanic, etc groups where they share information.”

      That occurs in all the professions to some extent, especially the legal field.
      An unqualified black allowed in med school under AA can get AA grading, help in passing tests, and AA certification.

      It’s the same way for dental school. I went to a dentist outside my area and didn’t know he was black until I happened to see him come out to the reception area to talk to a clerk.

      There’s no way I was going to let a black AA dentist screw up my teeth, so I told the receptionist I had to get something out of my vehicle, and I was gone.

      They can qualify these people all they want, but these black AA awardees are not going to get my business, especially the doctors.

      • Tarczan

        Same with me. The CC branch in my all white suburb has the smiling face of some AA darkie as the head doctor in the same day clinic. I ‘ll go elsewhere. Give me a white guy or a Jew any day.

        I had some emergency surgery a while ago and was relieved to see the team was all white. Imagine the stress of seeing a darkie just before being knocked out. That would be a nightmare!

      • Yancy Derringer

        I won’t let a black doctor near me, and he or she can chalk that up to affirmative action. Medical schools do indeed have quotas and if they can’t fill the black slots with MCAT minimum 22’s they’ll drop the blacks minimum to 20, or even 18. Nope, sorry, not going to risk getting someone only barely capable, or worse. What do you call the student who finishes dead last last in med school? “Doctor.”

    • DaveMed

      This isn’t really true. There are White students in my class who are very good friends with Asian students (I am one of them).

      But you are certainly correct in pointing out that students of other races are free (and encouraged) to organize in their own interests.

      • Johnny Harper

        Dude,

        You might be able to make “friends” with Asians but they will literally have organizations for their own interests.

        Look how the residencies shifted in the 1990s from White males to everyone else. I’ve observed the shift started in the 90s under Clinton. It has accelerated since then.

        The only residencies I see that are mostly White male remain Orthopedics for some reason. Cardiology, Anesthesiology, etc have TONS of Indians. Non Whites are definitely outnumbering White males in most fields of medicine.

        The amount of true “European males” (not White) is about 20% of students in medical school nationwide. Whites are overrepresented in stats because Turks, Arabs, etc are counted as “White”.

        Where do you go to med school? You don’t have to give me the specific place just the general area.

        ts terrible in NY, Cali, Texas, etc. Cali is almost all Asian. NY is a major multiglot. Those are the two biggest states for med students.

        Even down in Georgia, look at the two main med schools (outside of the black med school). The amount of White guys is WAY DOWN for the newest classes.

        • DaveMed

          I agree. This is a problem. As much as it pains me to say this, it seems that Indian undergrads, Arab undergrads, etc. have better work ethics than that of White (European) undergrads. Our people are no longer aiming to excel in the sciences; they seem to prefer drinking beer in their frat houses and majoring in Communications.

          There needs to be a strong resurgence in White scholarship.

          • Johnny Harper

            I agree.

            It is a multifaceted problem of both White neglect and active discrimination with group preference.

            The H1B visa Indians that were brought into America were supposed to “fill the physician positions that no American medical student” wanted to match into. Supposedly PCP in rural areas.

            Notice how fast those same Indians went into Cardiology and GI, due to their money and prestige as fellowships. I guess no Americans wanted those fellowships huh? The basically control the program director spots to those fellowships at many places now.

            We all know the program directors can pick whoever they want for those positions.

            The USMLE exams are actually being given to different countries on computer data banks. How hard is it for them to steal the questions for these exams? It is notoriously bad in Asian countries.

            I’ll see Indians who can barely speak English hitting 99/260s on their USMLEs. Considering how English intensive of an exam the USMLEs are, how can people with rudimentary skills perform so well?

          • LHathaway

            “The basically control the program director spots to those fellowships at many places now”.
            Oh, man. While whites most everywhere, even likely at places where whites are less than a plurality, following along with affirmative action guildline (most, possibly because they believe in this good cause – and if whites are a minority at this job site, they must not be at other institutions) people of color will often blatantly hire no one but those of the same color as them. These hiring managers often have bosses themselves, you would think someone would notice this blatant ‘discrimination’. Perhaps they can’t be fired. I have to admit, I’m not an expert on this or have inside information, but that is certainly what it often looks like.

          • DaveMed

            To be honest, many of the Indians in my class have better grammar and a more extensive vocabulary than many Whites I know. I’ve noticed this specifically among Indians; not other Asians.
            Perhaps there’s some connection with the history of the British in India.

          • Tarczan

            I’ve worked with a lot of Indians and Chinese and really got along well with them.

            The last Indian I worked with told me that English was mandatory as a second language.

          • Johnny Harper

            Those are American Indians.

            I am speaking about H1B visa Indians.

        • jambi19

          WMs have all been pushed into DO schools. My DO class is 65% WM. The year I matriculated into DO school there were at total of 8 African males out of 35 DO school classes.

    • HE2

      Not so, in my case. In my specialty practice, I was among males and accepted as clinically proficient, which I was.
      As far as admission into med school, my scores were very high, it was merit. In fact, all the White females in my class earned admission by virtue of high scores.
      Beyond that, my performance evaluations and preceptor’s recommendations earned me primo internship and 2 sought after residencies.
      Contrary to some opinions, female admissions to Med Schools are not Affirmative Action, except for blacks, browns and less “desirable” Asian females.
      Favored Asians scored high because they cheated. Everyone knew that.

      • DaveMed

        As far as I can tell, the increase in female medical students/doctors is a function of greater investment of academic effort; not preferential treatment.
        The White American male, in general, needs a stern lecture and a kick in the rear.

        • HE2

          Thank you, Dave. All the White females in my class were serious nose to the grindstone students who qualified. No party animals in the mix.
          My specialty area was difficult because I was the only qualified female vying for admission. I had to work hard to prove worthy.

          • dd121

            Your bio says you’re an “overachiever”. I doubt it. I suspect you worked your butt off to achieve what you did.
            My daughter started to ask what she might do for a living when she grew up. At that time she was in 8th or 9th grade. Knowing that medicine takes a pretty big chunk out of your life we didn’t encourage her to go into the field. Turns out she loves the profession. Overall, I think it’s a good thing that half the doctors are now women. ramble ramble

          • HE2

            Is your daughter married?

            I am proud of her on your behalf.
            DD, you did it right.
            By overachiever I meant balancing a high pressure job, serving as a dutiful wife [to spaced out scientist husband], being attentive mother and nurturer….it was sometimes a struggle.
            Feels good to be away from the job, focused on mothering and writing.
            Fair to say that I have not led a traditional life.

          • dd121

            The one thing she feared if she went to med school was that she’d become an old maid with a house full of cats. That didn’t happen. After med school she married a guy that she met the first day of school. He’s an anesthesiologist and a great husband and father. They take good care of my two grandkids who are 8 for the boy and soon to be 7 for the girl. I know it’s especially tough on women in medicine to balance their career with a young active family. She even taught in a residency program for a few years through the U. of St. Louis. She does have a lot of ability but it just seems that every thing she ever touched turned to gold.

            For myself I don’t have many regrets in life but the one thing I wish I’d done differently is have more than the two children. Your seven must be the joy of your life.

          • HE2

            Fantastic, dd. See, I said you did it right. 🙂
            I understand about your 2 child regrets.
            Is it too late to find a nubile, fertile concubine and get busy? [with your wife’s understanding that it is only for the good of our race]. LOL.
            Yes, I do love my children. More than ever now that I can spend more time with them. They are all home tutored, so am able to help with that, which they appreciate.
            No core curriculum allowed in this household. If they are required to pass a test based on that dreadful syllabus, we will study for the test only.
            Again, congratulations for being the father you are.

          • dd121

            Yep, it’s way too late. I wouldn’t even want to consider that. My daughter, for years enthusiastically talked about having a “basketball team”. That got scaled to two when the reality set in. I don’t know if she’ll one day regret it. Her husband helps out a lot so she could have done it.
            Are any of your kids college age?

          • HE2

            Tell daughter a raft of kids combined with a medical career is no cakewalk, should she change her mind. I suspect she knows that, though.
            No college age children yet.
            This sounds insane, but not sure I am going to push college first. Perhaps learn a trade, then college. My eldest boy loves to cook and is amazingly talented and creative. Maybe culinary arts first? He would do it.

            Just joking about the concubine idea. 🙂 Enjoy your grandkids!

          • dd121

            She and her husband are living the good life and don’t want to take on the extra responsibility. I guess that’s understandable but your perspective changes as you age.

  • Ellis Kurtz

    It is important to recognize that these are acceptance rates, not graduation rates. It would be interesting to see how many of these AA hires graduate. It may be the med school intake is oversized to accommodate a certain expected proportion of NAM losses. On the other hand, it is quite possible that AA continues throughout med school, given that the same justification could be used for NAM-specific grade inflation as was used for the the NAM AA in the first instance – low performance is caused by social and institutional discrimination. What we really need for a department of sociology somewhere to compare MD competency as a function of race. Not holding my breath for that.

    • TruthBeTold

      They’re likely trying to compensate for the lower black graduation rate. Load up on the front end and hope enough make it to the end so they can call their efforts a success.

    • DaveMed

      Medical schools in the US make every attempt to ensure that their students graduate, unless it is abundantly clear that a student would be a danger to society if allowed to practice.

      It’s actually a good thing that there are some token Blacks and Latinos in med schools. If there were no doctors practicing in da hoods, the residents of those neighborhoods would come streaming into the suburbs and clean middle-class neighborhoods for care.

      • HE2

        The problem is, DaveMed, multicult doctors want to practice in affluent areas.
        What physician would prefer da ‘hood to a nice, White suburb with insured patients?

        • DaveMed

          True.

          • HE2

            So the black doctor joins a nice White suburban practice, next moves his family to the nice suburb.
            His teenaged kids are interested in dressing and behaving “black,” have their dodgy friends over, and another neighborhood is at risk.
            Our “greatest strength” never ends.

      • Fed Up

        Affirmative Action grads are not a threat to society?

      • jambi19

        It is has been studied that doctors from the “hood” or “country” are less likely to practice in those areas as doctors from affluent back rounds. Who in their right mind would want to go back?

        • DaveMed

          I wasn’t aware of this. And good point.

          • jambi19

            That’s why it is such a laugh when you read admission criteria stating preference for those from “under-served” back rounds. Look at an admission panel at many med schools and you will see how many people without medical degrees deciding whom gets accepted. Medical academia is big bucks right now. Google dean and department head salaries. Mind boggling.

          • DaveMed

            I admit, I was wondering yesterday who would be more likely to work in “underserved” areas – those who grew up there or the White SJWs who derive their very purpose in life from being professional victims.

    • Spikeygrrl

      “NAM” ?

      • Ellis Kurtz

        Non-Asian Minority. Should have indicated that. I believe it was first used by John Derbyshire.

        • Spikeygrrl

          Thx

    • MooTieFighter

      graduation rates are very high in med school. once you made it that far there is usually great incentive to continue the journey.

  • DD-762

    I wonder what the Medical Malpractice Insurance Companies think of these stats. It would be like trying to find an insurance company to underwrite a liability policy for a pit bull.

  • Tarczan

    There might actually be a capable darkie in those figures, but who believes it? That is the effect of AA; I suspect all darkies in any position like this, and my suspicions are likely correct. They have been helped and pushed along every step of the way, from grades to test scores, I trust none of it.

    • Ellis Kurtz

      There is an issue with blacks that is even more important than competence. Blacks in the US are a distinct ethnonational group. Members of ethnonational groups have their primary allegiance to other members of the group and only secondarily, if at all, to members of other groups. This alone should disincline a white person to accept a black MD. What you want from your MD (or from a specialist) is dedicated concern for your health. But the essence of black ethnic identity is a chronic suspicion of and contempt for whites – who can doubt it? You can never know where a black doctor stands on the b/w issue, ie whether he regards white patients as fellow humans or historical oppressors. So a white should not accept a black as MD unless there is really no alternative.

  • Robonuts

    Something to think about if you need surgery. You may get to “benefit” from diversity and affirmative action as you get cut on.

    • Jo

      Refuse to be treated by a non-White in a hospital setting. Consider that good advice from someone who has experience with non-White doctors.

  • LIBERTYSINCURSION

    Blacks are given special treatment in everything. Yet they still fail, and assign their failure to the non existent doings of some evil White guy. Probably the same evil White guy who made Martin Luther King plagiarize half of his Doctoral thesis. That’s a different White guy from the one who declared that Martin Luther King will be allowed to keep his unearned, yes stolen, Doctoral degree. We hear a lot about the always spoken of yet never seen evil White guy. Who’s some how magically capable of popping up at just the right time to force blacks to make the wrong decision and disappear before anyone else can see him. However, we constantly see the Martin Luther King “you get to keep your stolen Doctoral degree” White guys, they’re everywhere.

    • LHathaway

      “Blacks are given special treatment . . . Yet they still fail, and assign their failure to the non existent doings of some evil White guy”.
      One must agree with this narrative with a certain amount of enthusiasm or be fired. Don’t forget. One must go along with it too. Some conspiracy theories become a mandatory world view, and must be parroted.

  • DaveMed

    Interestingly, I have not noticed that the East-/Northeast-Asians in my class do better than the others. They do spend a great deal of time in study groups at the library, and are more likely to be “gunners”, but I know that they are not at the top of the class.

    • Johnny Harper

      I see Indians killing the USMLEs with 99/260 scores with only rudimentary English skills.

      How do you explain these H1B visa holders doing so well despite their English skills?

      • HE2

        Cheating, Johnny. Chinese and Indians cheat.

        We all knew that in med school, but could do nothing about it.

        • Johnny Harper

          Its well known that they cheat on the Microsoft tests, etc. They share the test banks.

          I highly doubt this isn’t going on with the USMLEs as well. Considering that they send the test banks to all these foreign countries, how hard would it be to steal them?

          • HE2

            I am sure it must go on with the USMLEs too, Johnny.
            How else could a foreign student or grad who is markedly English deficient pass a difficult test in our language?

  • WR_the_realist

    The discrimination against us privileged whites (and Asians) continues relentlessly. There will be no lawsuits about this, as there would be were there any hint of discrimination against blacks or Hispanics.

  • Americaandthewestshouldbewhite

    I can imagine the type of doctors these blacks and Hispanics make.

    • Jo

      You don’t have to imagine. 99.99% are bad. Indians included. Don’t take the chance.

      • Ragnarök

        I don’t care for the Indian doctors. If I am going to see a non-white doctor I prefer to see a Japanese or Jewish doctor. I had a good Chinese doctor once too. Basically I want a smart doctor with a decent bedside manner.

    • Ragnarök

      I’ve seen a lot of doctors in my lifetime and I’ve only encountered a black doctor once & Mestiza once. The Mestiza was a complete moron. The black doctor didn’t seem like an idiot but he was arrogant.

      • Yancy Derringer

        Ditto on the Mestiza.

  • Bill Moore

    Hello,

    I joined the Veterans Administration health care system about ten years ago. The VA system is the best I’ve ever seen. After my initial experience with the Indian “doctor” described below, I requested a Caucasian doctor, and have been very pleased with his performance.

    However, I was initially assigned to an Indian “doctor” from India. She wore her traditional clothing. She told me to take off all of my clothes, then lie down on a table. She took a feather and touched my toes with it. From this, she concluded that I had diabetes. I did not have diabetes.

    She could not speak or understand English. To communicate with me, she would look at her computer screen and speak English, but I suspect that it was written phonetically in her native language. Then, she would appear to listen to my response, but I could see from her next comment that she had no idea of what I had said.

    She concluded that I had an aorta hernia, and told me that I would be dead in three days. This she did with no information from an X-ray or anything but looking at me naked. I had a scan, and my aorta was just fine.

    Why would the VA hire an Indian woman to treat Caucasian men? This is Affirmative Action causing harm to our returning veterans.

    And pushing through Africans and Mexicans to be the “doctors” in our society is cause for alarm.

    God Help Us All,
    Bill Moore

    • See The Future

      For the most part I strongly agree with your posts, very insightful.

      While the “God Help Us All” is nice we need to help ourselves.

    • LHathaway

      My Asian doctor would rarely move her head away from a computer screen, this was quite the opposite from the treatment you received. She must have earned half her credits online. If she performed better or not I do not know. I’m guessing she could use more experience observing a patient.

      • DaveMed

        This is a trend that affects doctors of all races. It’s a function of electronic medical records (EMR); not education.

        The concerns you have are plguing us as well.

        • HE2

          Patients hate it. A caregiver cannot even make eye contact with his/her patient.
          It is indeed a plague.

  • if only you knew how deep the anti-white, pro-minority discrimination runs.

    my wife is a recently retired federal govt worker, and in many agencies, blacks are not held to the same standards as whites. In fact, the blacks are basically parasites on the whites. The whites, in particular, the white males, have to pick up the work that blacks will not do.

    • Mary

      Oh yes. My father is a retired area director at a federal agency. After 30 years in this environment, he can tell many a horror story.

    • Sid Ishus

      My father was a director of a state agency. No matter their incompetence or defiance of rules they were safe from disciplinary actions.

  • John Smith

    What’s the rate for black physicians being charged with malpractice vs. other ethnicities/races and the same info for loss of licensing and disciplinary action by medical boards?

    • Tarczan

      Hidden deep in Obamacare are requirements for more black doctors. How this will unfold remains to be seen, but it can’t be good.

  • mike5586

    “Don’t take me to a black doctor.”

    More than just a joke.

  • Anon Emus

    I don’t think it posted so I’ll repost it: There’s one particular group that makes up way way more than their fair 2% of the student body in almost every medical and law program. And if quotas are applied fairly we’ll be returning to the era of Harvard in the 1920’s.

    • DaveMed

      What is “their fair 2%”?

      Members of more intelligent groups are expected to be more highly represented in certain programs.

  • Albert

    That blacks get into so many schools this way wouldn’t bother me so much if it weren’t for the fact that some schools have actually taken to a form of affirmative action grading. No-one should be given a degree without the proper qualifications.

  • HE2

    My class had a large number of Jewish students also. They were smart, made good doctors.
    We had almost no USA born blacks who were able to stay the course and graduate with the rest of us. Those who made it were from Africa.
    Blacks, unfortunately, whether born here or in Africa are not compassionate caregivers. They are aloof emotionally and not in a proper shielded, self preserving way. They come across as disinterested.