Scotland Should Stay in the Union

Jared Taylor, American Renaissance, September 16, 2014

Independence for the wrong reasons would be a mistake.

I almost always support separation. I believe the Kurds, the Chechens, the Tibetans, and the Uyghurs deserve independent countries. The Czechs and the Slovaks are happier apart, and so are all the remnants of the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, but on September 18, I hope the Scots vote to stay in the United Kingdom. Why?

It seems to me that Scots want independence for economic rather than national reasons and, even worse, that they have no idea what a Scot is. I predict that an independent Scotland would have bad economic policies and a disastrous immigration policy, and that independence would be a terrible mistake.

Yes

The issue is mostly money. Ever since the discovery of North Sea oil, the Scots have been loath to share the wealth, and leaders of the independence movement are promising a goldmine. However, Scotland already gets more than its share of oil money and in any case, production peaked in 1999 and has steadily declined since then. Even if it got every penny of oil income, it would cover only 10 to 15 percent of current Scottish public outlays, which do not count what a new country would have to spend on armed services, border control, foreign embassies, etc.

The Scottish National Party, which is leading the independence movement, has always been socialist, and its campaign is a sharp rejection of the conservative Tory government in London. Only one of the 59 Scottish MPs at Westminster is a Tory, and many Scots think free-marketers in London wants to dismantle their beloved welfare state. A vote for independence is being sold as a vote for more welfare–even though Scotland already gets more money back from Britain than it pays in taxes. Scots want more handouts, and think they’ll get them from an independent Scotland.

This kind of money grubbing is a bad reason for independence. People should seek independence because they believe passionately in a national destiny that can be fulfilled only when a distinct people, committed to that destiny, shakes off foreigners. This passion has nothing to do with welfare or oil reserves; true nationalists want to take their destiny in their own hands even if it makes them poorer. Without that passion–and I see little evidence they have it–when Scots find they are no better off than they were, there will be nothing to sustain them.

The Battle of Bannockburn was in 1314. The Acts of Union were more than 300 years ago. Today’s Scots are ten generations removed from independence. They speak the same language as the English and worship the same God. There are differences, and long may they be cherished, but they are nothing like the differences that separate real nations or that separate Americans of different races.

Perhaps most baffling, the Scottish Nationalists can’t define a Scot. Anyone living in Scotland can vote in the referendum, so long as he is a registered voter and a citizen of Britain, an EU country, or the Commonwealth. This means Lithuanians and Nigerians and Malaysians living in Scotland can vote alongside real Scots, and will presumably become citizens of Scotland. A Lithuanian would make an unlikely Scot; a Nigerian or a Bangladeshi would make an unthinkable Scot.

Along with generous welfare, socialist Scotland would pride itself on “anti-racism.” As the Scottish Nationalist party website explains, “An independent Scotland will have an inclusive approach to citizenship and a humane approach to asylum seekers and refugees.” That means welcoming swarms of Syrian refugees and Senegalese street Arabs in the fatal delusion that their arrival was somehow an affirmation of Scottish genius.

Quebec has never managed to vote itself free from Canada, but since 1978, it has had its own immigration policy. It foolishly decided that the essence of Quebec was the French language, and the province let in thousands of Haitians and Moroccans. The Quebecois eventually discovered what a mistake that was, and immigration has slowed, but the damage cannot be undone.

Only an estimated 2 percent of Scotland is non-white, so it does not yet have the seething Third-World enclaves scattered through England–or Montreal. By the time the Scots realize their error, the country could be in a death spiral.

Independence for Scotland might be a stirring example for Catalans or Basques who may have the real fire for freedom that the Scots seem to lack. Staying in the Union is no guarantee that Scotland will stay Scottish, but independence for the wrong reasons would be a disaster.

The vote for independence now has a slight edge.

The vote for independence now has a slight edge.

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Jared Taylor is the editor of American Renaissance and the author of White Identity: Racial Consciousness in the 21st Century.
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  • DaveMed

    Perhaps most baffling, the Scottish Nationalists can’t define a Scot…

    Along with generous welfare, socialist Scotland would pride itself on “anti-racism.” As the Scottish Nationalist party website explains, “An independent Scotland will have an inclusive approach to citizenship and a humane approach to asylum seekers and refugees.” That means welcoming swarms of Syrian refugees and Senegalese street Arabs in the fatal delusion that their arrival was somehow an affirmation of Scottish genius.

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    Exactly my concern. For me, the question is the following (and I hope people who live in the UK can enlighten me): Which will result in more non-White immigration for Scotland – gaining “independence” or remaining in the UK?

    • Alexandra1973

      What’s the point of nationalism if you let everyone else in? That’s like a girls’ club letting in boys.

      • MekongDelta69

        Exactly.

        All the mens’ clubs had to let in women – and you see how ‘well’ that worked out…

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        Precisely. Apparently, the egalitarian bug has hit the Scots like swine flu!! Remaining in Great Britain will save them from themselves. It absolutely amazes me how a mindset once only held by dingbat New England Abolitionists, and later by druggie flower children, has acquired such a lethal stranglehold on Western Nations. 25 years ago, 98% of Whites over 60 years old were racial realists.

        • jackryanvb

          The only cure for this menal illness seems to be really ugly, nasty, racially alien Muslim immigrants who like to beat up gay people, sexual groom poor White girls in to lives as Muslim sex slaves and then there are the throat cutting, beheadings, bombs on buses and subways – oh and these nasty Muslim religious puritans also like to traffic opiom and heroin. If I’m a White race realist in the UK tonight, I will be putting up posters promoting Europe/UK’s largest Mosque in newly independent Scottland.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Everything you say is true. Many Whites, though, are cultural realists who recognize the threat of Islam to Western Countries, but fail to learn anything about racial realism from the Islamic issue. The States are full of such naive Whites. They think that race doesn’t matter, trusting Negroes who profess to be Christian, thinking that all of Africa’s problems stem from Islam. When I point out to these folks that South African Negroes are not Muslim, and ask what they think of the Boer Genocide, they are learning about the Boer Genocide for the first time. TV news here in the states never covers the Boer Genocide. Most White religious Fundamentalists here are cultural realists with no use for Islam, but are Leftists when it comes to race. The Black churches are full of hypocrites and hatred for Whites, but this is lost on most White Christian Fundsmentalists, and they will argue against any suggestions of racial realism.

          • LHathaway

            The Boer Genocide is not a big deal, after all, they’ve never heard of it. When there are no whites in SA, you can point out, gee, there were 6 million white in SA and now there are none. Even if there are 1 million whites left in SA, I suppose you could point that out.

            I say 6 million because at one time, as far as I know, the listed white population in SA was 6 million. That information has already be ‘revised’ away, as if the white population there is 4 million and has always been 4 million. A lot of whites have been leaving SA in the last 30 years. Some small number actually move there.

            If you watch the media, it seems they believe it is more effective if the viewer believes they’ve figured out the lesson themselves, as if they think people react to or reject ideas that other people tell them. Perhaps this is natural, for on some level, they think another person talking to them is looking out for their own self interest, and so they are suspicious.

          • Charlie

            There are a myriad of reasons, as to why White Americans are relatively naïve to the current deteriorating situation…you must understand that White Americans, along with Scandinavians, have the highest standards of living on the planet, from the affluent “poor”, to the super wealthy…even though things concerning race are steadily changing, the U.S. is still a relatively segregated country, just because Blacks and Whites attend school together, doesn’t mean that they intermingle in all other pursuits…98% of all human beings, regardless of their racial type, primarily associate with their own racial demographic…it’s those “2%ers”, that the media shove down our throats, making the unwise believe, that, America is one big, color blind country, much like Brazil…even in the most racially mixed countries, color lines, and ethnic rivalries still exist…as regards the Islamic threat in America, very few Muslims live in America, compared to say, Britain or France or the Netherlands…there are millions of people in America, who will go from cradle to grave, without ever having seen a Muslim in person, only in the big cities of America, would one get that opportunity…

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Very accurate observations. Whites who say that race doesn’t matter hardly ever believe their own words. This is just “feel good” rhetoric that the media has convinced the average White American they need to spew forth with. If one rarely deals with Negroes and does not truly know their ways, such rhetoric flows easily. Ignorance is indeed bliss.

          • Charlie

            And another thing…there are far more Liberals than Conservatives in America, heck there are many people who would call themselves “Conservative”, but are actually Liberals in their way of life, and social viewpoints and opinions…in any given country, there are far more radical Leftists than there are radical Rightists, simply because, basically speaking, anyone can become a Leftist, for in the Marxist Left, there are no ethnic, socio-economic, religious, gender, or racial guidelines, which have to be followed, while the radical

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            You are absolutely correct. Especially amongst the under 35 crowd, truly Conservative social beliefs are exceedingly rare these days. I’ve spoken with many folks in this age group who tell me they are Conservative, but quickly emphasize that their Conservatism is fiscal, and proceed to espouse horrifying Libtard dysfunctional beliefs such as condoning miscegenation, homosexuality, recreational marijuana smoking, and casual sex. When I challenge their immoral beliefs, they quickly resort to name calling. As Jared Taylor accurately points out, they do not have a logical argument with which to even attempt to refute my logic, so they resort to the classic, tired old Leftist name calling, making accusations of “racism” and “homophobia” as if it is a mortal sin to believe in time honored moral values. Younger adults these days see as normal what was radical Leftist just 10 years ago. Western Civilization is truly in peril morally. What will be condoned in another 10 years? Marriage between humans and their dogs? Sodom and Gomorrah seems to be just around the corner these days.

          • Charlie

            I sometimes ask myself…why are Whites, infinitely more tolerant than other races? When they have the most to lose…I mean, just look at the flood of immigrants into Europe and the U.S. …I mean, if a flood of Mexicans started pouring into Nigeria, there would be genocidal civil war, within hours…yet, with Whites, you have three types: first, you have the Christianized, “we must feed and civilize, and accommodate the heathen and underprivileged”, the ones who feel that, there’s no such thing as a poor and underprivileged European or White American…then you have the ignorant Whites, who are totally blind and myopic as to what is truly going on, because they have been “commercialized”, i.e. only interested in their bank account, their coffee shop, their big screen television, their I-phone, etc…there the ones, that if you break it down to them enough, they’ll get the picture, but will say, “it will all sort itself out, for I still have faith in the political process”…then finally, you have the Whites that are fully aware of what’s going on, for they are actively participating in it, i.e. the destruction of Western Civilization, and the eradication of the entire White Race…those are the ones who must be done away with, and fast, for they are like the Bolshevik Commissars of the Soviet Union…

          • Mike

            Well now they’re finding out that cannabis use reduces the risk of cancer and other diseases so put that in your pipe and smoke it. The cannabis plant has existed before there ever was such thing as ‘the left’. It was only in the last century that uptight people decided that it’s called marijuana and that it’s bad and that Jesus gets mad at us for using it. There’s evidence that even the founding fathers used it and liked it.

          • Mike

            Why do we have to be ‘conservative’, why can’t we just be pro-white? Conservatives are mostly religious people who don’t believe in evolution and thus don’t consciously believe in race even though they know it exists deep down. Their religion teaches them that there’s just one race in the eyes of Jesus.

          • ThomasER916

            People who believe in Evolution, like Dawkins, believe that evolution stops and the neck. Furthermore, they don’t believe that Whites have a right to exist.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          It was never the “druggie flower children,” but the people who used them. Read: “Acid Dreams, the Complete Social History of LSD, the CIA, the Sixties and Beyond.”

      • jackryanvb

        Agreed. Or a “Co-ed Fraternity”. Fraternity means “brotherhood” – how can girls/women be a part of a “brotherhood”?

        • Franklin_Ryckaert

          If gender is only a “social construct” then that is possible.

          • anony

            And it ain’t, so it ain’t!

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Why not type “untrue”, or “simply counterintuitive”?? Mangling our English gives our enemies ammunition. Jared Taylor expresses himself with eloquence. The result is that our enemies do not know what to make of him, and shy away from opportunities to debate him. They resort to name calling while he remains calm and gentlemanly. Jared Taylor conveys the image of the classic Virginia Gentleman. He speaks in the polished yet pleasant dialect of Tidewater Virginia, a true modern day Virginia Gentleman who would make Thomas Jefferson and Robert E. Lee beam with pride.

          • I’ll gladly stand corrected if I’m wrong, but I understand Jared Taylor’s regional heritage is Kentucky landed gentry. I know that for the first few years of AR’s print edition, the official address for the publication was in Louisville, and the first few AR conferences were also held in Louisville.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I’m going completely on his speech pattern, mannerisms, and his living in Northern VA, so I imagine you are correct. Kentucky was mostly settled by Virginians.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            Sorry, but when I listen to his recorded interviews, he sounds a bit too much like a used car salesman, speaking in a gaudy, outlandish anticipatory style. If he could remove the hint of salivation from his set up Q&As in interviews, it would make the content seem more genuine.

          • anony

            When were you appointed arbiter of language usage on this site?

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            I’m not. Just suggesting that we take pride in our language usage. I knew a few Southerners from West Virginia and the Virginia mountains growing up. You knew their roots from the pleasant lilt and inflection of their speech, not from them dropping “ain’t” into everything they said. No offense intended, but I believe that we should take pride in how we express ourselves.

          • anony

            If you would notice some of my previous posts, you would see that I have always used proper syntax, grammar, spelling, etc.

            My use of ain’t in the above post was a literary “tool” to point to the stupidity of the content of the comment I referred to.

            Part of the irony of your diatribe is that my lineage goes very far back into Virginia. I have numerous ancestors who contributed to the South in the War of Northern Aggression as well as the Revolutionary War.

            But I appreciate your point about keeping the site “respectable” though I doubt many will miss the point of my use of “ain’t”.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          A female “brotherhood” is referred to as a “sisterhood” when we are using our glorious English language as it is meant to be used. As a racial realist, I believe that Whites should strive for proper mastery of our native tongues. As a result, I always cringe when White Southerners knowingly mangle their grammar by using “ain’t”. The old generations of Southern Gentry would not have been caught dead mangling their glorious mother tongue in this fashion.

          • Mary

            In general, Southern accents aren’t what they used to be. The old-time, genteel accents are rarely heard anymore, except occasionally from the elderly. My grandparents, born around 1900, had wonderful and musical Southern accents. I really miss hearing them.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            Good to see that someone understands my sentiments on this issue. I miss the older generations as well. My Grandparents spoke with the lilt of Southern Ohio, an inflection similar to Northern WV. They would also be over 100 if they were still living. I guess I just miss them and their generation. My Grandma had a dear old friend who was born and raised in the Western VA Mountains, had moved to Ohio during the depression. I can still hear her talk. She had that wonderful accent of the Southern Mountains, and used many elegant phrases that one rarely hears anymore, the old English phrases of the mountains.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            “Ain’t” is from Old English and was used in the “lower classes” and preserved in the Cockney dialect. During the colonial period, the changes brought into the English language by the German House of Hannover, which led to the exclusion of this and other uses from the nobility and upper classes, led to the perception that it is improper English, even though that ain’t so. At least, not if you wish to recognize true, indigenous language rather than forced stylizing trends.

            I’m not necessarily claiming that we ought to use “ain’t” as a new injected habit, just that I do think that it is valuable to know what is genuine and part of our real social history. It turns out that those Muswell Hillbillies in London are overall better nationalists than most other London (or British) ethnic groups.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            It is indeed goog to know the roots of our language. Before this, I had written off “ain’t” as a corruption of English with roots in the Negro community. As a boy, I was blessed to spend a lot of time around my Grandparents, who had good friends with strong Southern roots. These friends used to speak of how turned off they were by the sloppy grammar of Midwesterners, using “ain’t” as a prime example. These were folks who were friendly and down to earth, who spoke with the dialect of the Southern Mountains. To them, “ain’t” was a word used by coarse Yankee factory workers who were murdering the English language.

          • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

            It is gratifying to see a poster/reader who sees the point of a post rather than react vaingloriously. Did you grandparents friends use the phrase, “turned off?” (Get the point? That comes from Sixties hippy lingo that has been generalized into the public dialect).

            In the past, I did a great deal of historical re-enacting, including Renaissance Faire (as a fencing instructor) but also Victorian military. (Some here would be surprised to know how many of those people are pro-European/indigenous identity although they, like me, tend to go further and recognize the pre-Christian views and spirituality as more genuine, although that is not absolute, either). One interesting thing I learned is that in Shakespeare’s time, the English accent was closer to that Appalachian Mountain accent than what we heard from say, the 18th century on. The reason was the arrival of the German House of Hanover to the British throne. The court style changed including the accent. At the faires we instructed none-the-less to speak in the later form because it was what the public expected. A fun fact is the extent that some exclusiveness would play out in social cliques. In the cavalry for example, it became an expected language mark to pronounce your r’s and l’s as w’s. producing a sound that we today find quite hilarious. (This is why Monte Python played with language affection so much in their comedies). Can you imagine what this would sound like during the “Charge of the Light Brigade?” Imagine the poem being read to the cavalry mess in that contrived period accent. We did that once as a show and onlookers were literally ROTFL -ing long before that became a term.

        • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

          And notice how that is a one way street.

      • Whiteplight sees the Emperor N

        Or girls in the little league, taking over Boy’s Town, in the Boy scouts, or the removal of separate services for gender in the military; all things and more similar that have been done.

    • Publius Pompilius Quietus

      The SNP is very vocal about how much they hate being rule from Westminster, but if separate, they seem eager then to hand over their sovereignty to the EU. Moreover, they have no interest at all in preserving the ethnic Scottish nation in Scotland. Scottish nationalism therefore seems to be more about about disliking English people than anything at this point.

      • jackryanvb

        The cultural Marxist IRA did the same thing.

        They hate the English, but worship Nelsom Mandela, Mugabe, Castro and Hugo Chavez.

        • Charlie

          They hated the English, because the English treated them as second class citizens…I guess you never heard of the Irish Potato Famine of the 1840’s, in which the British government intentionally starved the Irish population…out of a total population of just 3 million, 1 million died…the Irish were discriminated against in America, because they were Catholic, in some quarters, they weren’t even considered to be White, as with the Anglo-Saxon dominant parlance went, “only Protestants or Lutherans, can be White”…the Anglo-Saxon elite, also refused to give the Slavics and Latins of Europe, fully White status…you can’t blame the problems of the White Race, on all outside forces…

          • jackryanvb

            How about planting some other crops?

            Most people can’t live a healthy life on a diet of potatoes and booze.

            What’s the definition of an “Irish homosexual”? It’s an Irishman would prefers women to alcohol.

          • Bantu_Education

            You talk absolute rubbish – the English never intentionally starved anyone and whats more the pop’n of Ireland in 1845, before the famine was over 8 million, not 3 million. And, although I am not diminishing the scale of the tragedy, famine deaths were probably much less than a million – the population loss was almost entirely due to mass emigration to Britain and the USA.

          • Charlie

            I beg to differ…the British intentionally starved the peoples of the Indian Subcontinent in the 1870’s, in which over 15 million people died…later, during the early 1940’s, Churchill’s government, intentionally starved over 7 million Pakistanis…I’m not going to cover up the sins of the British, for jolly old England…

          • Bantu_Education

            Your facts on Ireland are so totally wrong and this is more of the same arrant nonsense. I’m not going to play the fool by arguing with another one, you’ll beat me with experience.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            As you have accurately pointed out, English Americans preferred Lutheran immigrants. Let us be honest about why this was. German and Scandinavian Lutheran immigrants were known for being good workers, determined farmers, and peaceful citizens who did not pick unnecessary fights. Being a quarter Swedish and 3/4 German descent, I’m obviously biased on this issue, though, and certainly prefer a spirit of Pan-European unity for White Americans. With the day rapidly approaching when we will be a minority in our homeland, the last thing we should be doing is resurrecting old ethnic rivalries. This is another reason that the whole Scottish secession movement is not healthy. Rivalries such as the old English/Scottish rivalry need to be left in the past. The foremost enemy of the English and Scottish cultures is Black Africans, followed extremely closely by Islamists. A house divided falls. England and Scotland need to be united in keeping Great Britain White.

          • Mike

            The fact that the Jewish Marxist Noel Ignatiev, who literally goes around saying that the white race needs to be abolished, wrote an entire book about so-called oppression of Irish people in America tells me that this an issue that needs to be left in the past and forgotten.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Exactly. The Scottish focusing on “anti-racist” immigration policies reminds me of a certain Irish rock singer who is infatuated with Negroes, and welcomes the dispossession of his people. This singer is Bono of U2. If reincarnation does exist, Bono must have been abolitionist John Brown, the mentally deranged “slave stealer”, in a past life.

          • jackryanvb

            Seems like all the pop singer rock stars with one names present themselves as Liberal/Left gods and godesses who are so much better than regular White people with real two names.

            There’s “Bono”, “Sting”, “Madonna”

            Real White people have real names.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            If reincarnation exists and justice exists too, then Bono will be reborn as a bonobo in his next reincarnation.

    • Sick of it

      The major point of their secession would be that it would lead to other peoples seeking the same thing “for the right reasons”…the main reason to squash this push for secession is to prevent other peoples from seeking the same thing. Don’t live in a tiny box.

    • nBmnp

      Scottish independence will be good because:

      1. Scotland is much more White than England. Therefore Scottish independence is a good thing to keep Rotherham from growing toward the north.

      2. Most 3rd-worlders in Britain are “British subjects”, in other words the ties from the British empire which are partly formalized (“Commonwealth”), partly informal (“Business contacts all over Pakistan, India, Nigera, west indies, etc.) are facilitating immigration and make it so hard to stop it. There was no “Scottish empire” and there is no “Scottish commonwealth”.

      3. Smaller countries are much more successful in implementing immigration restriction than larger ones. All our successes (Switzerland, Denmark, Hungary) are in small countries, while all the large ones are a disaster.

      4. The “UK” is currently the most anti-White state on earth, even worse than the US. Again think of Rotherham, which is unthinkable in any other country except Britain. Even if the Scottish politicians are as anti-White as is claimed in the article they couldn’t make such a disastrous policiy even if they tried. And it won’t matter in the long run because in 10 years there will be different politicians anyway.

      BTW, I think Rotherham really was the final drop in the bucket that made Scotland go nationalist. This affair is so ugly, so detestable that nobody can morally defend the “UK” anymore. It is now quite obvious that it has become an evil entity that has to be destroyed.

      Also, Jared does not lay out any alternative for Scotland. – and there is no alternative, if Scotland is to survive, it has to become independent because the UK is an enemy organization that wants to turn itself into multicultural lala-land.

      • Franklin_Ryckaert

        The alternative is clear enough : independence but with a strict ethno-nationalist policy. That means NO immigration at all and by preference repatriation of the 2% non-Whites already in the country. And of course no membership of the anti-White EU and no adoption of the euro. If that leads to less prosperity, so be it. Better poor but alive than rich but dead as an ethnic group.

      • Bantu_Education

        If that were the rationale for Scottish independence then, as an Anglo, I would be with them all the way. But Salmond, as his name suggests, is a slippery socialist scumbag who is opposed to everything that Amren and patriotic racially aware whites hold dear.

        • nBmnp

          Salmond will be gone anyway in a few years. Also he can’t be so bad as everybody writes here because he works against one of the fundamental tenets of Marxism which is globalism. He is working to create a new border – and real socialists are against borders, didn’t you know that?

          So yeah, even if he is a socialist scumbag, he is less of a socialist scumbag than the globalists in London and therefore a step into the right direction.

          Just because it may only be a small step doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing.

          A small step is better than nothing.

          • Bantu_Education

            Globalism is not a Marxist concept. The anti-globalists on the other hand, given their penchant for destructive rioting, seem to be more of the marxist mentality.

          • nBmnp

            Never heard of the “world-revolution”? Never heard of “the International”?

            Marxist globalism is unification of power while capitalist globalism is merely free trade among free nations.

            Marxists want one-world-government – and Scottish (also Flemish, Catalan, etc.) independence is a small step away from one-world-government. If (hopefully) the EU also loses their grasp on any territory it is only a good thing.

            And of course the so-called “anti-globalists” are clamouring about the unity of all men, etc.
            Also, the so-called “anti-globalists” will attack attack everything and everybody except centralized banking – another marxist concept.

            Sorry, but I just can’t understand you British imperialists who cling on an institution that has become so destructive.

          • Charlie

            You have to understand, that, the British Imperialists are idiots, for they are the ones who got us in this mess in the first place…sure, we can blame the Liberals, Marxists, and Jews, but in all actuality, the compass of blame, must be pointed in the direction of the “civilizers” of the Rudyard Kipling type…taking up the White man’s burden…

          • nBmnp

            Yeah, they did rather destroy civilization than yield a little bit of power. Of course they lost the power anyway in the end.

            But in fact I doubt that guys like “Bantu_Education” ever had any power in the Empire to begin with – why he is identifying with the British empire is kind of a miracle for me. The British Empire hates the guts of people like “Bantu_Education” (as they would say, he is “hideously white”), but the more they hate him, the more he loves them in return.

            Congratulations, Bantu_Education, you won in Scotland, the status-quo was saved and Britain can continue its suicide undisturbed.

          • nBmnp

            Sorry for replying thrice, but it’s important:

            The main error in thought the “unionists” have is that they think we are at war against some organized enemy – like conventional warfare. In that case a unified command makes sense (but also only militarily and not economically).

            But this is not the kind of war we are in: We are in a war that can be best compared to pest-control or an infectious disease. In that case it is best to have as many sealed compartments as possible – to survive in the healthy ones and to let the unhealthy ones kill themselves.

    • Strider73

      Ah, but as Buchanan notes in that column (which I just re-read on the browser tab next to this one) a “yes” vote would give a huge boost to the Catalans, Basques, Flemish, Venetians and other secessionists in Europe, along with the anti-EU populist parties. It would also increase the chances of England & Wales bolting the EU, and anything that weakens the EU is to be supported.

      If the Scots have any sense, they will keep their new nation out of the EU, UN and NATO. Adopt the Swiss doctrines of non-intervention and armed neutrality. Allow no central bank to ever be created.

      Something that no one else seems to have thought of is the remnant UK flag. Scotland already has its own banner, but the Union Jack would have to be shelved. What would replace it? The white-and-red English flag with the Welsh dragon in one corner, perhaps? Or would the people channel Monty Python and say “And now for something completely different”?

      • Bantu_Education

        I don’t see why the Union flag should have to be shelved. Many flags retain symbolic elements long after they became er, history. But I do agree that the Welsh dragon needs to be incorporated, if only to stop the Welsh “welshing”. 🙂

    • jackryanvb

      well said. Braveheart was Hollywood PC nationalism. White ethnic groups are only allowed to be patriotic, nationalist if they make the enemy a pure White group – ie the English, the Germans or sadly the Russians/Soviets.

      Mel Gibson was firmly on the Hollywood PC plantation when he smeared the English as being all cruel, evil, rapists or queer. Well, the last was getting off the plantation a bit, then when Mel got good and drunk he said negative things about another group – not English, not German, look what happened.

      This politically correct, PC Hollywood Scottish, Irish, Irish American nationalism is pretty pathetic. The reality is that the Irish are the largest minority in England, if England was so bad, why did the Irish move there? There must be 20 times as many Irish in the US and Canada as there are in Ireland. If Ireland was so perfect, why did they emigrate? Yeah, I know “the English forced potatoe famine”! Why didn’t the Irish plant some other crops? Maybe eat some fish and vegitables.

      Our White racial realism ain’t Hollywood PC plantation nationalism. Scottish Nationalists want our respect, support they should stop blaming White English, White Germans for all their problems and expel Paki Muslim pimps.

      • saxonsun

        Let me tell you why the Irish move to England. I have many Irish students. They told me that the English are very generous with the dole. One student told me that the moment she landed in England she went for handouts…and she got them big-time.

        • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

          Is Ireland smart enough to not have a generous welfare state? If so, more power to them!!! Every White homeland that acts to preserve their culture and racial purity is a step in the right direction for Whites.

      • Bantu_Education

        You’re right – has anyone seen any Mel Gibson movies since his drunken outburst against the Jews?? Go figure…!

  • OTOH, sans Scotland, the political hill for English nationalists will get a lot less steep and tall.

    • Oil Can Harry

      It also appears that sans Scotland it becomes much harder for the evil Labor Party to win elections.

      • Yeah come to think of it, I’m surprised Red Ed Miliband isn’t sweating bullets.

      • Bantu_Education

        True, but the socialists have their “new scots” – blacks and browns and muslims breeding in the background supported by the socialist-built welfare state. In another 10 years, or less, they will easily be numerous enough to replace the lost Scottish labour voters.

  • nexus974

    If Scotland is looking for more handouts and socialism then I say the sooner the rest of the UK is rid of them the better.

    • JackKrak

      Scotland has built a de facto communist state within a state while crying poverty and and watching London meet every economic, political and cultural demand they made.

      And then they’ll turn around and tell you that the Scots would rule the world by now if it weren’t for Margaret Thatcher or some such nonsense.

      I like them as people as much as anyone else does but there is something profoundly broken in their ability to govern themselves and to keep any proper sense of being grounded in reality.

  • Samuel_Morton

    Thank you for writing this Mr. Taylor – I was curious about your stance on this issue. The Scots are lovable folk, but I agree with you that their socialist tendencies would be their end if they became independent. Anti-racism and open borders would quickly erase this great northern European culture as floods of third worlders would pour in.

    Speaking of the left seceding, it does provide food for thought. What if the far left in the United States were convinced that they needed to secede to escape all of the ‘hate-filled white supremacists’. They could live in utopia with all of their favorite vibrant races, and leave those with a white racial conscious to their own destiny.

    Perhaps someone should put a bug in the ear of some radical left-wing organizations. Enlightened whites can’t be expected to live in the same country with horrible bigots now, can they?

    • jartaylor

      Yes, it is always a pleasant fantasy to think that the Left will run away and leave us loathsome people–but it never does.

      • Alexandra1973

        It’s not enough for them to be amongst themselves have their messed-up ideology, they want to force it on others and make everyone think like they do.

        What would happen if we AmRenners seceded? Would they follow?

        • phorning

          It isn’t practical. Secession was fiercely debated in the South in 1861, even though Lincoln wasn’t even on the ballot in some states. Today, Democrats get a sizable portion of the vote in all states. When you add in people who do not think it would be in their economic interest to secede, you would be well over 50% of voters.

          • Sick of it

            Masses of people will destroy civilization and bring us down to the level of beasts. It’s time we stop worrying about their non-beliefs (they usually believe what they are told to believe).

      • Periapsis

        Quite the opposite, they cling to us like vampires draining the life out of yet another victim. They contradict themselves in every way other than their real intentions of exterminating us, all of us off the face of the Earth along with our culture, languages, art and everything else we contribute to the world. A pity we can’t drive them away with garlic or a crucifix.

      • Sick of it

        Removing them is the only long-term solution.

      • TruthBeTold

        My concern is the simple majority.

        Without a clear and decisive margin of victory, the results will always be in question.

        • Bantu_Education

          I agree – suppose the “Yes” vote wins with a tiny 50.1% majority which is quite likely at this stage. It would be insane and very divisive amongst Scots themselves to secede from a successful 300 year enterprise on that basis but thats exactly what slippery Salmond wants to do.

          Something as radical and non-reversible as secession needs the support of at least 60% if not a 66.7% two thirds majority.

      • Franklin_Ryckaert

        Parasites never want to be separated from their hosts.

        • Veni Vidi Vici

          Agreed, I have ponder this too and think it is a scheme to get more tax dollars.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            And the “parasites” are the non-Whites who have taken the majority in London and the non-Whites who defiled White children in Rotherham. Only a fool would think Scotland’s bid for independence has any other impetus. Alex Salmond is the Scots’ temporary ‘useful idiot’. They will have nothing of multiculturalism once the split is successful. Salmond will have a boot in his butt shortly after.

      • Avery

        Didn’t America declare independence for economic reasons?

        • Bantu_Education

          And, perhaps co-incidentally but I don’t think so, Catalonia just happens to be the richest region of Spain.

          • LHathaway

            I brought up racism to a guy from Spain living in, I believe, Catalonia. He was just a guy playing an online game with me, and said he lived in Spain. I brought up racism, and very quickly, he said, ‘no, no, I hate racism’ and this is a guy living in an almost all white country. I was kind of trying to make a joke point to him but also asking him a question. Is Catalonia more successful because it’s citizen are ‘whiter’ whites? I think I was Guessing whether or not it was more successful, wasn’t sure. And I didn’t even know for sure, either, if Catalonian’s are ‘whiter’. Spaniards are a bit dark, overall, in my opinion. Very little natural blonds or light eyes, anyway. He didn’t even get the implication or the joke yet of what I was trying to ask him.

            I personally don’t believe they are wealthier because, they, and those in the northern part of Europe are ‘whiter’. I think it’s a conspiracy of some kind. Doesn’t every European want to vacation in warm, Southern Europe, where vacations, just by coincidence, are cheaper?

    • B.A_2014

      What is wrong with socialism if it works, especially in a overwhelming white nation. Free and healthy school meals (Fish and vegetarian meals would be ideal), cheap facilities for excericse, homes for the old, free healthcare for the young and old, control of the banking system to be used for the benefit of the people, education free including university and control of the major resources such as water, gas and oil are all major positives in my opinion and policies I would have no problem supporting.

      • phorning

        It has been tried and doesn’t work, that is what is wrong with it. Socialism leads to incredible government abuse of the people and financial ruin.

        • B.A_2014

          If it were not for all the third world vermin, the germanic countries would be in much better economic shape and they are socialist in all but name. Don’t confuse marxism with socialism. Socialism has been around long before Marx wrote capital.

        • Garrett Brown

          It didn’t work for Nazi Germany? They went from barely getting by after WW1 to being one of the world’s greatest economies in under ten years. I think you’re confusing the multi culti labeled “socialism” that some countries have attempted to a homogenous, hard working country helping out their fellow man.

          • DaveMed

            One might argue that Nazi Germany had a host of problems under the surface (and many in plain view).

          • Garrett Brown

            Such as?

          • jambi19

            War on three fronts against three industrialized white nations.

          • Long Live Dixie

            The USSR wasn’t exactly a white country, but yes, Hitler made a massive blunder by taking on so many opponents at once.

          • Garrett Brown

            What does that have to do with the economic policy?

          • curri

            JFK said in 1937: ” The Germans are really too good – that’s why people conspire against them – they do it to protect themselves.”

          • Fidel Cashflow

            Socialism can work but only in white and Asian nations where the population won’t abuse the free handouts.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            There is a fair amount of socialism already at work: Social Security, public schools, interstate highways, etc. But, as you state, those only worked when there were nation-making European-Americans involved, not nation-taking 3rd World gutter trash.

        • sulbernick

          It does work. It worked in Britain prior to mass immigration.

      • MekongDelta69

        I’ve got news for you son…

        There is NO SUCH THING as a ‘free‘ lunch…

        • B.A_2014

          If the more fortunate has to pay a little bit more in tax so that the lower classes could eat well then so be it. Would you rather have a nation fit and healthy all white nation or just an all white economic zone where you are free to keep all your money and spunk all your money in a consumerist culture?

          • MekongDelta69

            I donate my money – which I earned to whom I want to – NOT at the point of a gun.

            You are a socialist – therefore, you can support all the ‘perpetually oppressed.’

          • B.A_2014

            Then you cannot call yourself a white nationalist or a racialist if you put your own narrow self interest above the group as a whole. You did not answer the question either. Is it your desire to live in a homogeneous capitalist consumerist society or not?

          • Sick of it

            The group as a whole has a rather low IQ. Why should we spend everything we have to support dysgenics?

          • B.A_2014

            I’m not talking about providing financial assistance for our own low IQ folk to reproduce. I think it is best that a nation (especially it’s male members) be as physically capable as possible. I oppose Wealth redistribution on a large scale but you should remember that those low IQ people you do not want to support in one way or another are the same people you may one day be sharing the battlefield with against an enemy of the race.

          • Weaver1

            Nothing in excess. Some eugenics is positive, but it could perhaps go too far of course.

            Extreme capitalism is a great evil. We see who is leading the charge for globalism: billionaire capitalists.

            “Socialism” is just a word, but a happy, healthy society is what’s wanted, regardless of what label one gives it.

          • Veni Vidi Vici

            If Eugenics makes us gods then I am all for it,
            Billionaires simply have too much power in to few hands and a cap on personal wealth would solve it,say no more then 100 million per person; other then that I see few flaws in Capitalism…
            Everything in moderation even moderation 😉

          • Veni Vidi Vici

            Agreed, I would rather pay welfare to prevent individuals from having children. at least this way you only pay once.

          • MekongDelta69

            Thanks – but I certainly don’t need a socialist to define who or what I am.

            As Margaret Thatcher said, “Socialism is a wonderful thing, until you run out of other people’s money.”

            Socialism has never worked, doesn’t work now, and never will work. By its very definition, It can’t work. There’s no incentive to work. I’ll stay home and you work for me.

            In the old days, I would’ve written some multi-thousand word post explaining all this, but I’m long past that.

            Maybe some day, you’ll understand…
            But not today.

          • Weaver1

            Margaret Thatcher was a race traitor. In the US, “individualism/cosmopolitanism” has led to traitors flooding the US with immigrants, shipping US capital overseas, and otherwise exploiting the citizenry. Capitalists can be traitors too, and an economy is meant to serve the nation, not the nation the economy.

            Voluntary charity can be a positive thing sure. Society needn’t rely entirely on it, however. The goal is an economic system that works for the nation. Capitalism and socialism are just words.

          • Garrett Brown

            Did it not work for Nazi Germany?

          • Long Live Dixie

            A mere six years of National-Socialism in Germany is not a comprehensive picture of whether it would have worked long-term or not.

          • Garrett Brown

            Then we can’t with certainty declare it doesn’t work at all either.

          • Long Live Dixie

            I didn’t say with certainty that it doesn’t work.

          • Garrett Brown

            No, but some in these comments are.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            Well, it was an immediate success. What more proof do we need?

          • NoMosqueHere

            That’s a good one. After six years of Nazi rule, 4 million Germans were killed unnecessarily; Germany was reduced to ruin; the German national reputation was tarnished forever; 60 million people world wide were killed; and the worst act of genocide in world history was committed.

            That aside, the Nazis were pretty good.

          • B.A_2014

            Margaret thatcher was a economic liberal that destroyed much of the industry within the UK. Not to mention she won a lot of Nation front support by pledging to end immigration which she never did. Why would you quote Margaret Thatcher of all people. Who’s next Marshall Stalin?

          • Garrett Brown

            You would have a problem helping your fellow whites? What if you knew all of your taxes were going to white families who needed help?

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            I think you wouldn’t object to donate part of your money to less fortunate members of your own family. Consider your race as your extended family.

        • Garrett Brown

          If you couldn’t afford your lunch one day at work I would be honored to take the tab, along with any other Nationalist that frequents these boards. You guys are my heroes.

          • MekongDelta69

            Thank you – but if I couldn’t afford lunch, I wouldn’t buy it. I’d make it at home and bring it.

          • Garrett Brown

            It would be free as well, since I would never ask you to pay me back.

      • The problem is that an independent Scotland would invite the whole third world, Ebola and all, into Scotland, and the social welfare state that would be viable for a relatively small sustainable very loosely related and inbred people would turn into an unsustainable circus of gibsmedat.

        • B.A_2014

          If the Scots are twilling to toss away their nation then so be it. It is a small country with an aggressive population. That problem can be rectifid. What cannot be rectified is an England dominated by third worlders. England is the most important nation in these isles because of it’s size and history. If England dies, we all die with it.

          • saxonsun

            Agreed.

      • DaveMed

        It seems that socialism (at least, of the Scandinavian welfare-state variety) leads to societal softness and sloth (no alliteration intended).

        • Franklin_Ryckaert

          Exactly the same happened in Sweden. See how weak and suicidal the Swedes have become! The need for hard work keeps a people strong.

          • Garrett Brown

            I doubt that was because of Socialism.

        • B.A_2014

          I don’t think you can blame the weakness of the Scandinavians on the welfare system. I blame it on 50 years of continuous propaganda spewed by the tube and every other mode of information. Only a few of us see the glitches in the matrix my friend. The rest have to be enriched personally before they even start to notice what is going on.

      • Ike Eichenberg

        “you eventually run out of other people’s money”
        – Margaret Thatcher

        • Weaver1

          You nevertheless want to ensure all have an opportunity at the best jobs, to ensure the capable obtain the best jobs they are capable of/desire.

          If you allow a large wealth gap to arise, you risk having an unhealthy oligarchy at the helm, which is just inviting revolution.

          The ideal is balance, Ideologies like “capitalism” are like viruses infecting the minds of the masses. We need civilisation, not ideology.

          • Ike Eichenberg

            The flaw in your logic is that wealth is not a zero sum game.

            Rich people getting richer does not necessarily make poor people poorer.

            Stupid and nothing else is what keeps poor people from achieving in most every modern western society.

            The vilification of the “wealth gap” is a tool used by one group of extremely wealthy people to gain the support of useful idiots in order for that wealthy group to maintain and achieve more power and wealth.

            Don’t be a useful idiot and buy into that nonsense.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            “Stupid and nothing else”… You also have logic problems. Vent your bubble air from time to time. Corruption is a factor you apparently deny. Sometimes “stupid people” are just honorable people playing within the rules. You sound like a Yid: “…I lie, cheat, and steal therefore I have a high IQ…”

          • Ike Eichenberg

            Smart people achieve even in the face of discrimination and corruption. “Yids” proved that fact.

            Stupid people whine about it. Stop whining.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            I miss a moral dimension in your “ethnic pride”. What if those “smart people” succeed at the cost of others? Wouldn’t that explain their impopularity, rather than jealousy of their aleged “smartness”?

          • Ike Eichenberg

            “At the cost of others” is a fallacious argument.
            We already covered the fact that wealth accumulation is not a zero sum game.

            You sound just like a black screaming “racism” because he does not achieve as much as the group with a 15 point average IQ advantage.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yids keep it in the family. Even an inbred could “succeed” with that style system of corruption. While you’re at the family gathering, go tell Mark Zuckertard to go fvck himself.

          • Ike Eichenberg

            Corrupt people like Madoff do indeed appear as such, but corruption is not unique to Jews. Nor have you substantiated any claim that it is more prevalent.

            Yeah Jews help other Jews succeed, isn’t that the same thing you would suggest white gentiles do?

            The system is the same for everyone, Jew or gentile, the difference is the average white gentile is a standard deviation below the average Ashkenazi Jew in IQ.

            Or about the same as the difference between that white gentile and the average black in the US.

            Of course whites are going to be more successful than blacks, and with a 13ish point IQ advantage and a willingness to look out for their own group, Jews are going to be more successful than white gentiles.

            Do your best to succeed, help out your gentile brethren at your pleasure then you too can achieve, if you have the brain power and work ethic.

      • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

        With closed borders, yes, it would be fine. The Scottish culture would not be damaged. The problem is that Scotland wants more Liberal immigration policies if they are independent. They need to remain in Great Britain, so that they do not destroy themselves with their own naïveté. As Jared Taylor accurately points out, secession is only beneficial when fueled by Nationalism.

    • Charlie

      In many respects, the Scots, as well as the Irish, have a far greater hatred and disdain for their fellow Caucasian English, then they do non-Whites…granted, that only 2% of Scotland is non-White, that doesn’t mean that those numbers will always stay that way…maybe Scotland is seceding from England, simply because they see was is an inevitable sinking ship, as England becomes less English, and subsequently, less and less White, by the day, maybe they’re trying to stave off and prevent the process of Multiculturalism that is destroying countries like England, the Netherlands, France, Sweden, etc…you have to understand, that, the reason that anyone can vote in the referendum on Thursday, is that they’re trying to marshal as much support as possible against England, simply because England has far more in terms of economic prowess, media coverage and propaganda, international historic prestige, etc, almost comparable to Russia and the Ukraine…

      • B.A_2014

        I was criticized at takimag for pointing out the reason may have something to do with jealousy or a
        inferiority complex having been dominated by the English for so long. I was then accused of forgeting my history and then the famine was brought into it as if I had personally suffered.

        • Weaver1

          If a British identity is desired, the English should make it clear that they value a shared Celtic heritage. The English are not pure-blood Germans.

          Likely the reason the Irish are so stupid is brain drain. That or the leaders were killed or fled at some point. West Virginia is similarly stupid.

          • saxonsun

            The English are Anglo-Saxon, not Celtic.

          • Garrett Brown

            They aren’t pure blood Celts either. Nor pure blood Norman French.

          • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

            You have obviously spent little time in West by God Virginia if you think this. Intelligence is not measured by income. West Virginians, as a whole, are some of our most intelligent Americans. They did not suicidally support Bathhouse Barry, Bantu in Chief, for President twice, as did the ostensibly intelligent descendants of abolitionists in another homogenous, crime free mountain kingdom known as Vermont. West Virginia has more brain power than all of New England, and far more than their Northern neighbor miscegenationylvania.

    • JohnEngelman

      The Scots are lovable folk, but I agree with you that their socialist tendencies would be their end if they became independent.

      – Samuel_Morton

      Social Democracy can be effective, but only in countries where nearly everyone is white.

    • Luca

      The Right can live just fine without the Left. the Left could not survive without the Right. Whose money would they raid?

      • Garrett Brown

        The richest people in the world are Liberal. You’re putting way too much emphasis on politics. As long as they’re White or Asian people can live in first world societies regardless of their political views.

  • B.A_2014

    Scottish independence would be a good thing for the English. A conservative or UKIP government or maybe a coalition of both would give the English some breathing room. As far as the Scots wanting independence because it would mean an expansion of the welfare state, I see the same sort of thinking in Ulster except they don’t want to leave because they are afraid that they may not recieve the benefits they recieve under Britiah rule (even though southern Ireland has a far more generous welfare state and a higher standard of living). It is a chance most are unwilling to take.

    • NoMosqueHere

      Oddly enough, England would be better off if Scotland bolts. The Scots vote almost 100 percent for Labour MPs; so real conservatives or, dare I say, race realists may have a better chance to influence Parliament sans Scotland.

  • dd121

    I would like the Scots vote for independence if for no other reason than to raise the level of chaos in the West. I think we need LOTS more chaos for whites to thrive.

    • Periapsis

      Chaos benefits the Tribe, not us. We thrive in orderly societies, not ones wracked by war because of internal infighting or invasions from outside. Chaos is coming anyway, with or without Scottish independence.

      • Drago Lord

        I disagree

        the USSR was far from chaotic

        the tribe wants strong governments when they are in power, as they are now

        • NoMosqueHere

          Israel aside, where exactly is the “tribe” in power? And don’t tell me Sweden.

          • Sick of it

            The article on the Swedish elections mentioned 2 Jewish heads of two major political parties. In Sweden…where they are more of a minority than here.

          • Weaver1

            In South Carolina, we have a Sikh governor. She rules us relatively well – doesn’t hate us.

            I don’t understand why Jews hate us so. You can look to South Africa’s demise or to most any anti-European movement: You find Jewish leaders. Other minorities do not hate us so completely.

          • Bantu_Education

            I don’t know too much about the Sikhs but what I do know leads me to respect them, certainly far more than other Indians. They came into being as recently as 1600 to fight the Muslim invaders of India – they are great warriors and are well respected by most Brits. I think the respect is mutual.

          • Drago Lord

            The “Super Power” pays tribute to Israel, and has zero political autonomy

            That is very telling

          • Weaver1

            They have influence, not total domination. They’re wealthy and control the media, academia, and banking – at least in the US.

            The reason they’re so powerful is white Gentiles are weak and lacking in spirit. Perhaps we’re too wealthy ourselves, even our poor. Poverty seems to stoke nationalism, at least in some cases. I don’t want poverty. I’m just a typical cynical conservative. It seems that if the economy collapses, we might be free from these “managerial states”.

          • Sick of it

            We lack cohesion and a definite set of beliefs (partly because they lied and said everything we believed in was false).

          • Charlie

            Whites lack a core set of beliefs, simply because their parents refuse to teach them those time-honored beliefs, while at home…for instance, many WN’s are blaming the Marxist/ Liberal “educational” system, for the lack of ethno-racial awareness amongst Whites…well, in many respects, if a person was taught those values to respect and only cater towards their own, while at home, then they would reject the teachings and brainwashing of the educational system…

          • Charlie

            The reason that Jews are so powerful, is that, Whites are largely rebellious by nature, and cater to groups that have absolutely no intention of returning the favor, if the shoe was on the other foot…Whites are the only race on the planet, who help and assist groups, other than their own…

        • Periapsis

          That is how they grab power time and time again, when they succeed then they impose their concept of order at machinegun point on everyone else.

      • dd121

        Whites aren’t doing great right now that we’re in a state of orderliness.

        • Weaver1

          Cosmopolitanism and the managerial state are certainly enemies of ours, but “anarchy” is their ally, not ours.

          We simply want smaller, more decentralised, and more balanced order. Distributism is an anti-thesis of both socialism/capitalism and chaos.

        • Periapsis

          We are in a state of worsening chaos right now, and it’s going to get far worse.

          • dd121

            Perhaps it can work for us.

    • Weaver1

      Soros supports anarchists. So, whether chaos is good or bad might depend on what you mean by “chaos”.

      Soros also opposes Scottish secession from the UK and UK secession from the EU.

  • LHathaway

    “even worse, that they have no idea what a Scot is”

    I get the joke that comes later, ‘everyone has a right to be a Scot’ but they know who they are. They believe they are kinder and more humane than the English, that’s why none of their representatives are Tory. Their eagerness to be kind, and show they are more kind than the British, can come in handy, if you’re trying to get a free beer. I believe Scots are poorer than the British.

    Scotland, Wales, and the Pacific NW of the USA all have much, much, lower numbers of people of color as a percentage of their population than the rest of the USA and Britain proper. 2% non-whites in Scotland, as the article eventually gets to. 2%.

    This article could perhaps be a well needed warning for Scotland. One I hope they read and heed.

    It could also serve as a warning if Scotland votes for independence. Take Scotland and Wales out of the picture. What then is the actual percentage of whites and non-whites in just Britain alone?

  • There are a lot of reasons for and against, but this is their decision to make.

    • Adolf Verloc

      That’s the crux of the matter – they are the ones who have to live with the decision, so they are the ones who get to decide. That said, I am concerned that they haven’t given enough thought to economic issues. The nationalists plan to continue to use the pound sterling as currency, which puts their economy entirely under the control of the Bank of England. Their situation will be similar to that of Greece and Spain once they adopted the euro – the central bank calls the tune.

      • On the other hand, the only Royal navy base that services ballistic missile submarines is at Faslane, in Scotland. I imagine the Scots could hold the English up for a pretty penny for access to that facility, especially as Scotland has a rather strong anti-nuclear lobby.

  • Easyrhino

    “Only an estimated 2 percent of Scotland is non-white, so it does not yet have the seething Third-World enclaves scattered through England–or Montreal. By the time the Scots realize their error, the country could be in a death spiral.”

    Seems like by opting for independence the Scots are preventing an error rather than causing one.

    • IstvanIN

      The reason isn’t about preventing the third world from invading, it is about a disdain and dislike of the English. When will be stop the fratricide?

      • LHathaway

        Perhaps it’s a healthy competition? I do not know.

      • Long Live Dixie

        The separation will most likely be peaceful, thus no fratricide.

        • IstvanIN

          It is still the breakup of a nation that was once the powerhouse of the world. It is still brother against brother. Scotland gained more from Union than she ever lost.

          • Long Live Dixie

            A union of countries is not a nation. I’m not against the British Union for what it was, but I don’t see any reason to maintain it if the people of the countries that it consists of think its time has passed.

            When England and Scotland united 300 years ago, both gained some things but also lost some things. I think the biggest loss for both was a truly national identity. ‘British’ identity superseded both the ‘Scottish’ and ‘English’ identities.

            So, in principle I have no problem with the two countries going their separate ways, but I don’t like the SNP or Salmond at all and I don’t want the two countries to turn against each other.

      • Bantu_Education

        Yes, its quite disgraceful that whenever England plays in the World (Soccer) cup the Scots vigorously support their opponents, whoever they might be. The English on the other hand would support Scotland to the hilt (assuming they weren’t playing against England of course). So, for that reason alone, I won’t shed any tears if those misanthropic Scots secede.

        • IstvanIN

          That I wasn’t aware of and that is truly sad. White people love to nurse old grievances against each other while forgiving or excusing the most horrible of acts committed by blacks and browns that are currently taking place.

          • Franklin_Ryckaert

            In a multi-racial global world with mass migrations becoming more and more prevalent, racial solidarity should take precedence over petty ethnic rivalry, but many Europeans don’t understand that. It is insane to hate your White neighbors but welcome non-White strangers.

        • saxonsun

          Agreed. They’re not the nice people they think they are.

    • Adolf Verloc

      If they govern themselves wisely, this is true. As Mr. Taylor pointed out, though, the Scottish Nationalists have been big on multiculturalism. Hopefully if they do decide to “split the sheets,” they will think further on this.

      • Easyrhino

        The Scots are smart enough to know they’d be ripped for wanting to retain their ethnic/racial identity and I think (hope) their disdain for the English is merely an excuse as the Scots see what a 3rd world toilet England is becoming and they don’t want to go down that path.

        • Long Live Dixie

          If they didn’t want to go down that path, wouldn’t they stop voting for politicians who promise more Third World immigration?

  • Alex Salmond, the independence leader is a Jewish multiculturalist, egalitarian of the worst sort. But British policies will see the country flooded with blacks and browns anyway. With independence my hope is that in the future Scots will discover their nationalist identity.

    Thus, while the leader for independence is a globalist, independence offers a ONE TIME ONLY opportunity to say to the world that Scotland is of its own self. Imagine the patriotic fervor that will break out with independence.

    And don’t forget all the banks and businesses threatening to pull out with independence. The globalists are putting on a full court press to keep the Scots DEPENDENT. Scotland’s best and and only hope for freedom is to say Yes.

    • NoMosqueHere

      How do you know he’s jewish? I don’t think so…

    • DaveMed

      Huh?

      According to Wikipedia (http://en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Alex_Salmond), he belongs to the Church of Scotland.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        And what of his DNA? It’s not what’s in a book, it’s what’s in the blood.

        • Long Live Dixie

          Is there any evidence of him being Jewish?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            There wasn’t evidence of Rupert Murdoch being Jewish either, who also lists himself as “Christian”. Murdoch would produce near 50% Ashkenazi Jewish DNA at a testing lab like 23andME or NatGeo. An AmRen poster dug-up Murdoch’s true bloodline. Here is the entry from a few weeks ago:

            “Rupert’s daddy – SIr Kieth Murdoch – married into a wealthy Jewish family by wedding Elisabeth Joy Greene in 1928. Since “jewishness” is passed through the mother, this makes Murdoch a jew whether he denies it or not…

            From the magazine Candor:

            “Rupert’s father Sir Keith Murdoch attained his prominent position in Australian society through a fortuitous marriage to the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family, née Elisabeth Joy Greene. Through his wife’s connections, Keith Murdoch was subsequently promoted from reporter to chairman of the British-owned newspaper where he worked. There was enough money to buy himself a knighthood of the British realm, two newspapers in Adelaide, South Australia, and a radio station in a faraway mining town,” Candour wrote in 1984. “For some reason, Murdoch has always tried to hide the fact that his pious mother brought him up as a Jew.”

            The exact word used to describe his rise to prominence is “artificial”, and it’s long been hypothesized that Rupert was being used to deflect attention away from the real movers and shakers, like Michel Fribourg, Armand Hammer and Edgar Bronfman (described as a “Zionist Mafia”), guys so rich they make Rupert look downright puny…

            Just clarifying some things… no insult intended.”

          • Long Live Dixie

            Murdoch? I thought we were talking about Salmond.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            We were/are. I was giving you an example of a stealth Jew in high places.

          • Long Live Dixie

            I see. I know that Jews often hide their Jewishness (Marx being a good example), however I’m sometimes skeptical of all the claims that so-and-so is a Jew because there is a lot of disinformation out there. In Salmond’s case, I don’t know what the story is, however I have thought that he looks atypical for what I expect a Scotsman to look like.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Drudge ran a link yesterday about “40% of Jews” hide their identity.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Fair enough, but that doesn’t mean that Salmond is one of them.

          • Google “Alex Salmond Jew” and you get the scoop on him. Endzog was my source.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Endzog doesn’t give any evidence.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            It’s politically incorrect to search for “evidence” isn’t it?
            Wouldn’t that be “hate”?

          • DaveMed

            Please elaborate on your understanding of this concept that “‘jewishness’ is passed through the mother…”

            That is clearly not a biological/genetic “argument” – it obviously implies something more spiritual or religious (otherwise, why specifically the mother?). Yet, he practices Christianity.

            So, your theory (or, at least, the one you subscribe to) is that Murdoch is spiritually Jewish, practices Christianity, but is really Jewish?

            Someone pass me the joint, because there’s no way this will make sense without it.

          • You’re assuming Jewishness to be a religion. It’s also a race, which according to tradition is passed from mothers to all her children, no matter who the father is. Obviously, someone from the Jewish race can practice whatever religion they wish. Murdoch is of the jewish race because his mother was Jewish. That’s jewish law.

          • DaveMed

            Huh?

            If Jews are objectively a race, then “tradition” is irrelevant; we must take both parents (and other ancestors) into account.

            Next, “Jewish law” is religious law. Ever heard of racial law? Neither have I.

            Yes, their religious laws consider someone born of a Jewish mother to be Jewish as far as religious considerations go – kind of an automatic baptism, as it were. All of this is irrelevant to someone who doesn’t consider himself (or herself) religiously Jewish.

          • “All of this is irrelevant …”

            Not from the standpoint of DNA. When Elizabeth Taylor and Sammy Davis, Jr. converted to Judaism back in the day, they became religious Jews. Taylor was still a white woman racially and Davis was still a Negro.

            Now, flip the script. Take a Jew persecuted back in the day. He becomes a Christian out of necessity. He’s changed his religion, not his DNA. Understand?

            Many Jews masquerade as something else. I once met a high figure in the local Mexican power structure. Carlos was his first name, not Sholomo. He was honest enough to admit that he was a Jew by race, although since his family came from Spain to Mexico and then to the US, he was considered by the local Mexicans to be a Mexican.

            If he hadn’t said he was a Jew, no one would have been the wiser. He was drinking when he said it.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The understanding of the concept that Jewishness is passed through the mother is in their writings, dating back 2,500 years. It is completely, totally understood; a given. A mother who is gentile is berated and labeled a “shiksa”. Also a given.

            Personally, I think so many shiksas exist is because Jewish men are trying to minimize, cleanse their poison bloodline. Best to infuse your blood with the highest evolved, natural nation-maker, you see.

            Recent technology also tracks blood of “Jewishness”. When you get your blood tested at 23andME or NatGeo, in the range of $100 to $200, the print-out provides Ashkenazi Jew percentages: the proverbial “shlomo in the woodpile”.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Ancient Khazaria

          • Charlie

            According to Halakhic Jewish Law, it is…it doesn’t matter what the ethnic or racial background of your father is, if your mother is a Jew, then you’re a Jew…hence, Judaism is the only belief system in the world, in which the blood of the offspring, is not considered as passing from the father…because, biologically and scientifically speaking, male genes are dominant…

          • DaveMed

            1: As a Christian, Murdoch does not care about Halakhic Jewish Law.

            2: Please explain the basis for your last sentence. We’ve certainly never learned anything of the sort in our classes on genetics.

          • Jo

            From my research, the surname Salmond is Scottish and French. Salmond’s mother and wife are Scottish. He is Christian.

      • From the endzog website we have this:

        “Alex Salmond is a Marrano (hidden) Jew whose family changed their name at some stage from from Salomon (Solomon). Alexander is one of the top ten most popular Jewish names. The ultimate origin of the name is from the Hebrew male given name “Shelomo”, a derivative of “shalom”, peace. Salomon and its variant forms was a popular given name among Jews during the Middle Ages; it is recorded as “Salomon” in the Domesday Book of 1086, and one “Salamon clericus” is recorded in Suffolk in 1121. Salomon was the usual medieval form, used in the Vulgate Bible, and by Tyndale and Cranmer, while Solomon is the form used in the Geneva Bible and the Authorized Version.”

        • Long Live Dixie

          It looks to me like a lot of speculation.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Infiltrators tend not to use billboards. It’s all a part of their chameleon tendencies.

          • Bantu_Education

            He looks and behaves like a Jew – thats good enough for me.

        • DaveMed

          When did they (ostensibly) change their family name?

          Why, in 2014 (when it is perfectly politically-correct to be Jewish), is he (ostensibly) still pretending to be a Christian?

          Where is there any substantive proof for these claims?

          • First of all, I’m not that interested in whether Salmond can be proven to be of Jewish ancestry to the absolute degree you demand. I’m more interested in the fact that his policies would lead to the soft genocide of the Scots. Since my ancestors came from that vicinity, I have an interest in keeping Scots bloodlines pure.

            Multiculturalism is a Jewish construct designed to lead the white race to extinction. Salmond embraces it. Those are the relevant facts.

          • Long Live Dixie

            bigone4u: First of all, I’m not that interested in whether Salmond can be proven to be of Jewish ancestry to the absolute degree you demand.

            Then don’t make the claim. Too many people throw out the Jew label without knowing if it’s true or not.

          • If I was forced to remain silent about everything that I can’t prove with certainty, then I’d not have much to say. Neither would anyone else. The circumstantial evidence is Salmond is a Jew or a New World Order puppet. It’s legit to bring it in, as it’s not the central focus on the comment. His cultural Marxist policies, created by Jewish scholars, are.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Saying “Salmond is a Jew” and then saying that you can’t offer any actual evidence of it makes you lose credibility on everything else. You’re free to throw around claims even when you don’t know yourself if they’re true, but not many people take someone like that seriously. By your reasoning, Ted Kennedy was a Jew.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Under current conditions, he would be an “anti-Semite” for even inquiring. Where would evidence exist if looking for it is a hate crime? It’s the same circular nightmare Joe Sobran was caught in.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Looking for it is not a crime in any jurisdiction that I am aware of. There is plenty of proof out there about crypto-Jews like Madeline Albright and David Cameron and it would take only seconds to confirm their Jewishness. Why is there such a lack of information about Salmond?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The SPLC doesn’t deal in jurisdictions, they drag you through civil courts. The purpose: to drain you of finances to defend yourself. Their pockets, of course, are bottomless–and it was probably your money at one time. The SPLC is ultimately a Jewish Supremacist organization. The also orchestrate the ancient Yiddish practice of “shunning”, as happened to Joe Sobran and many others. Speak too much truth? Out you go. The antithesis of western culture.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Looking up someone’s Jewishness does not bring down the wrath of the SPLC. Salmond is either Jewish or he is not. In our age of information, where information about many crypto-Jews can be found in mere seconds, you’re telling me that finding the same information about Salmond would bring lawsuits and financial ruin?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            “Shunning” as happened to Joe Sobran, and frivolous law suits indeed bring financial ruin, as is their purpose.

            Who are you and what have you done to Long Live Dixie?

            You sound like Morris Dees.

          • Long Live Dixie

            No one gets shunned for finding information about crypto-Jews. I just talked about Albright and Cameron. Am I going to be shunned or ruined for it? I don’t sound like Morris Dees. I sound like someone who wants to keep racialism in the realm of the credible. The trait of saying “I don’t like him, so he’s a Jew” only makes the racialist cause look foolish. I have no idea if Salmond is a Jew or not, but I can’t find a single source with evidence that he is a Jew, whereas I can find plenty of information about crypto-Jews in powerful positions. It would be quite odd if information about Salmond was better covered up far better than information about the UK prime minister, who himself openly talks about his Jewishness.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Europeans and European-America have learned not to trust, for they have been betrayed. If we insist on getting our suspicions 100% correct each time, we will never be allowed to suspect; we will always have to give-the-benefit-of-the-doubt. It is that very nation-making tenet that has been exploited by the nation-takers. The key to western civilization’s resurrection is to always suspect, never take anything at face value. That is the adapt-or-die solution.

          • Long Live Dixie

            – The cause looks foolish if you throw around claims that don’t survive scrutiny. Maybe it’s a fault unique to our race, but white people like facts.

            – It doesn’t matter much to me whether Salmond is Jewish or not. If he is Jewish, he should be expelled from Scotland for being non-European. If he is Scottish, he should be expelled from Scotland for being a traitor.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            It’s a variation of the boiling frog. If you wait around for facts that can’t be found, you eventually boil. The facts are in with respect to genetics and behavior. These fact are routinely repeated when criticizing the Bantu. Are we saying that genetic induced behavior only applies to the Bantu? Read the subtitle below the American Renaissance.

            “…To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”– Voltaire.

          • Long Live Dixie

            All right. I don’t like John McCain. Henceforth, I will tell everyone I know that John McCain is a Jew. Maybe I’ll do the same about Mitt Romney, as well. To Hell with facts. I can’t wait to get confirmation.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Don’t you mean John McCainstein, Mr.?

          • Long Live Dixie

            That’s the one. I’m pretty sure his grandfather was a Rabbi from Poland.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Yes, Rabbi McCainoshitz, I remember. Watch the Dave Chappelle “race draft” episode. The Jews can have McCain.

          • silviosilver

            You are arguing like a nutjob. If I were an uninitiated outsider not only would I not take anything you personally say seriously, I would have my doubts about racialism in general confirmed, not challenged.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Go sit and spin somewhere else. Aren’t you an NRO horr? When are they going to retitle Buckley’s site: Israel Today?

            I identified the core carcinogen to western civilization’s death–and you blanked. Valerie Jarret is a more capable vacuous cipher.

            Your entire ideology will have to be reassessed. Look at you. You’re pathetic.

          • silviosilver

            Oh ffs, calm down. It’s not your analysis I disagree with – I agree with it – it’s the idiotic way you’ve gone about making your case in this exchange. Sure, there’s every possibility Salmond’s a Jew. But you don’t just assert it and insist he’s guilty until proved innocent.

          • LHathaway

            Enough with the Jews. Take it somewhere else. Patience is a virtue. Lets wait till the anti-racists blame Jews, too. Then you can all happily agree that Jews are what problem is in the UK. I’m sure you and the anti-racists can agree on that. For as we know, lefties will never blame themselves.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I will take it where ever I please, thank you.

          • Bantu_Education

            He was probably considered an “honorary Jew”.

  • If Scotland secedes, the UK parliament will lose one Tory and 58 Socialists. It will be a huge swing to the right. The English have a much greater chance of saving themselves without the Scottish. Also, the best cure for a Socialist is to live in a Socialist country. In the long run it will be better for Scotland.

    • Garrett Brown

      What made the Scots so leftist anyway? I have heard some ramblings on Youtube by young people and it blows me away. They put American liberals to shame.

      • B.A_2014

        You haven’t spent a weekend in West Belfast obviously. Murals of Che Guevara, Mandela, Palestinians and multiracial propaganda on walls all across the urban areas. As you enter the city centre from the Falls road a sign says This is where diversity begins. You’ll see protests and concerts advertised for every non white under the the sun. Anti racist groups are springing up everywhere as wave after wave of non whites flood Belfast.

        • Weaver1

          It’s the same with Yankees in the US. The whitest communities embrace multiculturalism. It’s only diverse areas that can’t be tricked into supporting it.

          In Vermont, secession is desired so it can flood itself with foreigners and put an end to native Vermont folk. I… do wish them to survive however. I just don’t have much faith that Yankees can ever be restored to health.

          • Long Live Dixie

            ‘Restored’ to health? Yankees have never been healthy. Their roots are in Puritanism and Quakerism.

            Their liberalism is not the result of not experiencing non-whites. The Yankees who move to the South are just as liberal as the ones who stay in Vermont, Wisconsin, and elsewhere. Conversely, Southerners in all-white areas (e.g., Appalachia) are not liberal.

          • Weaver1

            Their roots are in England, as well as Britain, northwest Europe and so forth.

            The US, including Yankees, was overwhelming English. The “Civil War” split the Know Nothings.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Weaver1: Their roots are in England, as well as Britain, northwest Europe and so forth.

            The Puritans? Yes, their roots are in England but they are England’s refuse. The ones who stayed in England were able to assimilate back into the population with minimal damage. The ones who went to North America had no population to assimilate into. This allowed their destructive traits to be maintained and multiplied. Their destructive traits are seen everywhere in their society (and by extension, in ours since they conquered us).

          • Weaver1

            America’s sickness seems to be its denial of its English, British, northwest-European roots. If we’re to embrace a more pan-European identity, fine. But we began as mostly English.

            We know less what we are than do the Scots. I’m no Amerindian, and I am a native American.

          • Long Live Dixie

            America was sick before it began denying its British roots.

          • JohnEngelman

            Since you believe America became “sick” the standard of living has increased. The crime rate has decreased.

        • Garrett Brown

          I knew Northern Ireland was pretty bad.

          • B.A_2014

            I was involved in a very heated arguement at a party a couple of months ago with a woman (a repulsive looking creature named Jackie Bradley) on this topic and it was only the next day my cousin told me she was the head of the anti racism network Ireland. He told me a few weeks ago that she was in such a rage she wanted to have me beat. Being the daughter of ex IRA leader Gerry bradley and a prominent member of R.N.U, the political wing of oglach na hEireann (local paramilitary) she had the power. My cousin and his girlfriend talked her out of it. My point is they are popping up everywhere. Half the people at the party that night were party of this anti group and I never knew. My aunt is also part of one of them miserable groups.

          • Garrett Brown

            My aunt and uncle live in Belfast. They often talk about leftists taking over the city, its changing demographics etc when I call them.

          • B.A_2014

            In the south of the city is where the city is really changing. The reason it is becoming such a leftist sewer is because the so called nationalist community (my community) are a majority at city hall. I wouldn’t want to rush to judgement but I’d say your aunt and uncle live on the other side of the peace wall. Not that there is anything wrong with their views. They’re pretty spot on. The first chance I get I’m out of here.

          • Garrett Brown

            I believe they are in southern Belfast. They never had much money. Their home is beautiful, just not very big.

          • B.A_2014

            South Belfast?

            God help them!

          • Garrett Brown

            They live about 30 mins from the capitol. Still a pretty nice neighborhood, beautiful gardens.

      • Weaver1

        Leftists hate. That’s their defining attribute. Scots likely hate the English or at least London. Rural areas are poor in the US and in the UK. Those who don’t leave for work elsewhere end up in poverty. It doesn’t help that Scots are looked down upon.

        You have to remember that the mass media, public schools, churches: every institution manipulates the Scots. It’s only the Internet and real life experience that gives Scots a chance.

        Scots of the past would be educating their children in secret. But those Scots are long gone. I do hope they return however. Whether united or independent, I wish the Scots the best.

        • Garrett Brown

          So because England is mostly more conservative, they support the opposite?

        • Bantu_Education

          So the English Cotswolds (a very rural area) is poor?

    • El Baga Doucha Libtard

      That’s exactly what I was thinking.

    • Ike Eichenberg

      They will run out of other people’s money even faster.

    • Bantu_Education

      Even if Scotland secedes it will only give a short creating space for the English Conservatives. The fast increasing black and brown and muslim population will in less than a generation lead to the demise of the Tories.

  • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

    It would be a lot like Vermont seceding from the U. S. Vermont is about 96 percent white, but votes overwhelmingly Democrat (I think Romney got about 30 percent in the ’12 election). It even has the nation’s only socialist Senator, Bernie Sanders, the other being ardent liberal Patrick Leahy.
    I’m not sure I’d miss Vermont.

    • DaveMed

      Vermont is a beautiful state. True, the people there are nuts. But I’d hate to see land as beautiful as that ceded to other peoples.

      The same applies to Scotland. Absolutely stunning country as far as landscapes and nature go.

      We should not abandon such treasures lightly.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      There is something in the water up there. I think the best hiking in New England is along the Long Trail in Vermont; Camel’s Hump being the best day hike. The only downside of hiking in Vermont is the banjo music in the distance. <;-D

  • shawnmer

    Jared cuts through the clutter as usual.

    Pat Buchanan seems to think it’s worth doing, but if it’s as Jared describes, it sounds like it would no blow for true nationalism, and I’m frankly somewhat ashamed of my Scots brethren!

  • Sick of it

    I knew it would fail the moment that Queen Elizabeth spoke out against it. Probably rigged.

    • IstvanIN

      She did not speak out against a yes vote, she suggested that the Scots think carefully about how they vote and the consequences of such a vote. She is an experienced and wise woman and the biggest problem with the UK system of government is that the monarch is not allowed to express an opinion or allowed the power to control the out of control politicians.

      God Save the Queen.

      • Long Live Dixie

        Are you serious? The Queen hasn’t lifted a finger during her entire reign to stop the replacement of her subjects.

        • IstvanIN

          Do you understand the UK’s system of government? Do you believe E2 rules or reigns?

          • Long Live Dixie

            I never said anything about ruling. The Queen makes public statements of her opinion. She has spoken in support of the replacement of the British people. She can go straight to Hell.

          • IstvanIN

            She has literally said boot out the British and bring in the darkies? And this was in a speech not vetted by the politicians? She isn’t normally permitted to make a speech that hasn’t been approved.

          • Long Live Dixie

            No, she has used the usual Leftist language. They don’t talk so directly.

          • IstvanIN

            Her official speeches are vetted. They are not her words.

          • Long Live Dixie

            Is anyone forcing her to say them? Come on, she doesn’t care about the British people. Why would she care? Her life won’t change no matter how non-white Britain becomes.

          • Garrett Brown

            I will agree with Istvan on that statement. Someone is certainly telling her to say that garbage.

          • DaveMed

            I’m not sure what you’re talking about (would appreciate more info on this), but it’s unfortunate that there are so few prominent Whites willing to take a stand for their people.

            Imagine how many English minds would be swayed overnight if the Queen were to announce that the English, as an ethnic group, must be preserved as the overwhelming majority.

      • Sick of it

        May God smite the usurpers until none are left alive.

  • Steven Williams

    What a very insightful article. I too thought Scotland would be for national reasons too but it wasn’t so. It would be better if the Scottish parliament had a right-wing nationalist party which would kick out all Third World scum like we should here in the US. My thought as a white nationalist is that anyone living in the territory north of the US-Mexico border is complete white territory. Any non-white living in this territory should be kicked out and sent back to their ancestral countries. There have been criticisms to this idea. If you are against it, then you are “100% ANTI-WHITE” and vehemently support white extinction!

    • Roger Noah

      What you desire will not happen. What is your Plan B for obviating white extinction?

      • silviosilver

        There isn’t the slightest chance of that happening, but that is the position most WNs seem to gravitate to. This makes them, in effect, the greatest opponents of their own racial survival, because they force whites who are concerned about survival to go down the path of futility.

  • independence will make scotland smaller. Smaller white nations have more democracy. When a nation is smaller, the people have more control. That is called ‘democracy.’ The people have more control because smaller nations have smaller voting districts. Smaller voting districts have less factions. Fewer factions means more unity. More unity means the people are better able to elect and hold accountable their politicians.

    Democracy is a good thing.

    Being anti-secessionist is being pro-elite, pro-corporation, pro-multiculturalism. The corporations are trying to stop secession because they want to keep control.

    You would think jared taylor would be pro-secessionist. After all, he is a white nationalist. The only real hope for white nationalism is secession.

    Yet, I am not really surprised that he is anti-secession when it comes down to real cases. That stance is in line with many of his other stances.

    • IstvanIN

      Scotland will not be independent. It will be a component of the EU.

      • DaveMed

        In which case, our attitudes on the matter may essentially be a bet on which will wake up to the scourge of multiculturalism/multiracialism first – the UK or the EU.

      • they have a choice of joining the EU. It is not automatic and not forced on them, as I understand it. Am I correct?

        • IstvanIN

          You really think a resource poor rock is going to sit outside the EU?

          • wow…conversation over!

          • nBmnp

            Iceland is doing exactly that – and they are in much better shape than Rotherham.

          • Dougie Hall

            Resource poor rock? Do you know ANYTHING about Scotland?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            If they provided exile/sanctuary for Americans fleeing the Marxists, they would have a steady influx to keep their economy moving, perhaps of retirees from the former America. The Scots would have to develop a Swiss or Cayman Islands model, though. Afford citizens of the former U.S. political asylum and allow them to not pay the emigration ransom recently raised by the anti-White North American occupiers. I would retire in Scotland and switch citizenships if they would guarantee me immunity and asylum from the Chicago shake-down thugs.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          All the better they not be part of the EU. I can’t see them applying. The Scots are planning on nationalizing the oil industry, which is vast. That will keep their economy steady until such time they decide to return to manufacturing, etc. They had a significant manufactur-ing base at one time.

  • Easyrhino

    Not mentioned is that Sir Sean Connery is pro Scottish independence. How can you side against James Bond?

    • IstvanIN

      Yes, we should always do what entertainers say. Geeze.

      • Easyrhino

        Lighten up Francis, it’s called levity.

  • connorhus

    Why is it every country, state, county or city in the Western world who wants to go it’s own way brings out the nay-sayers pontificating about how that Country, State etc. gets more money in benefits than it pays in?

    Tell me what Country, State etc. actually pays more than it get’s back then because according to so many leftist and not a one of them does. Some states claim they do on paper but when you look closely you are seeing just more wealth redistribution as these places act as middle men for the goods coming out of other areas.

    Here’s a tip. NO Western government spends less than they take in and about all of them spend more. Until this life of debt is ended saying some area receives more than it pays means absolutely nothing.

    • the establishment wants to keep nations as large as possible.

      The larger the nation, the more factions in the voting districts, which means less unity. When the majority is less unified, it is harder for them to control the government. So the corporations gets more control of larger nations. Small, white nations are where the majority has more control.

      So the establishment wants large nations. That is why the stock market is threatening a downward plunge if scotland goes independent. It would make the UK and scotland both smaller. Smaller means fewer factions, which means more unity in both nations. That means less control for the corporations.

      Pro-secession is anti-corporation and anti-multiculturalism, another reason why the establishment hates secessionism. And of course the vast majority of opinions posted online just in line with the establishment.

      And the majority of online written opinion and comments are made by people who toe the establishment line. Whatever propaganda the establishment puts out, whether the conservative or liberal establishment, most people online will just regurgitate it.

  • Ultimate187

    Basically, Mr Taylor doesn’t trust White Scots to make good decisions for themselves if given independence and self determination.

    • I think he is looking at the evidence, which is not encouraging for the survival of the West.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        I think it’s reverse psychology and he wrote this with his fingers crossed.

    • DaveMed

      If I am not mistaken, “White Scots” are converting to Islam in shocking numbers.

      Pardon me if I think that “White Scots” have lost their collective heads.

      • Dougie Hall

        “White Scots” are converting to Islam in shocking numbers? That’s news to me and I live in Scotland, where did you get that information from?

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Our boy, Dave is being rapidly absorbed into the multi-culti borg.
          His words are really just death twitches. Pay no mind.

          • LHathaway

            I like Dave but nice insult.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Tough love just isn’t working. Can’t save them all. He found a niche as the token White boy at med school. Hey, maybe that works.

          • LHathaway

            lol, way to commend Dave on success and prod him on to more.

  • relanorma

    With due respect to both sides, I believe whenever a part of a country demands a referendum for independence/secession, the mother-country should also have one, and a “yes” vote in either one should sunder the union. An independent Scotland would advocate a higher level of immigration than it already receives, unfortunately. I hope the very existence of this referendum will inspire greater ethnic coherence within other European peoples.

  • Samuel Hathaway

    Wouldn’t independence allow an Independent Scotland the right set its own immigration policy? Seems that being part of the UK puts Scotland at more risk of being flooded with East Indians, Pakistanis, and sub-sarahan Africans.

    • But apparently their future local overlords are even more enamored with ‘Celebrate Diversity!’

      • Samuel Hathaway

        A very worrisome prospect, indeed

      • AndrewInterrupted

        That has to be all a political head fake. The timing of this dovetailing with Rotherham and London going below 50% White–much too coincidental. The Scots are lying like Leftists, and love the poetry of it. Such poetic justice. I can just hear the squealing lefty terds after Scotland shuts down immigration a year from now–and can just hear them:
        “….Hey, you said you embraced diversity–what gives?? You lied just like we do all day long! Hey, lying is our tactic, you can’t have it…!!…”

  • Douglas Quaid

    When I read the title, my reaction was a bit on the grumbling head shaking side of the spectrum. After I read it I think Mr. Taylor, as usual, makes some very lucid points. Given the current Scot mindset, independence would seem detrimental rather than beneficial.

  • A very enlightening article, and I didn’t even know it was from Jared Taylor until I’d finished it (I’m in the habit of first reading articles – and THEN checking who wrote them).

    If a vote for independence brings about a poorer Scotland, this might bring about less immigration, at least in the short term.

    • IstvanIN

      The SNP is a bunch of liars. From the 1970s to 1990s they wanted a republic. When they realized that advocating for a republic was a losing proposition they decided to keep the crown if Scotland went independent. They have no loyalty or honor.

      • Dougie Hall

        So any political party that changes its policies over twenty years must be liars? Which political party has not changed its policies over that time period?!

  • IstvanIN

    The first joint King of Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland was a Scot, James I (or VI if you prefer). Additionally the act of union states that the union is forever. So not only is the referendum treason of the highest order it is illegal.

    • Long Live Dixie

      Additionally the act of union states that the union is forever.

      300 year old words are a pretty uncompelling reason to maintain something that is no longer working.

  • John R

    Very good analysis. Yes, I find it funny when Scots say they can’t be in the same country as the English, but they wouldn’t mind letting anyone from anywhere in the world become a “Scot.” What is the point of a “nation” when it includes all kinds of people who have nothing in common?

    • IstvanIN

      A Scot has far more in common with an Englishman than he does with a Paki.

      • nBmnp

        Rotherham is in Britain and Britain is becoming Rotherham. Scotland is not Rotherham and should not be forced to become so.

        I like the English, but God do I hate the Britsh.

  • Paul

    I disagree. Nationalism must always start somewhere. At least Independence allows for the building of a nationalistic party at some point in the future. Possibly in response to an influx of third-worlders. It also gives Scotland the opportunity to close their borders to people they don’t want in there. I’m not saying this will happen now but nationalist movements rarely win office without a substantial degradation in the lifestyle of the people.

    • Long Live Dixie

      . . . a substantial degradation in the lifestyle of the people.

      And that’s exactly what’s headed their way!

      The good news is that England will be better off.

    • dmxinc

      It does seem that the possibility of Scottish Nationalism emerging is worth the roll of the dice.

      Waiting for another chance to come around to “get it right” maybe far to risky, especially when we can see what is happening in the rest of the West.

      • Franklin_Ryckaert

        The rise of UKIP in Britain was also unexpected (after the demise of the BNP). Perhaps Scotland will come foreward with its own version of a UKIP. We can hope.

        • Dougie Hall

          Yes but it can not as part of Britain. Nationalism and patriotism in Scotland is in opposition to Britain and currently, its focus is a left wing party. After splitting from Britain, the SNP will itself split.

  • Alex Dihes

    I almost always support separation. I believe the Kurds, the Chechens, the Tibetans, and the Uyghurs deserve independent countries.
    Jared Taylor
    ==============
    If the Kurds, Chechens, Tibetans, Uygurs – who are ethnic groups, not peoples, and never were. If they deserve independent countries, Jared, you must bring lands for them from another planet or move them there.
    If they deserve independent countries, Jared, so the same goes for the Karaites, the Venezuelans, the Romani, the Mestizos, the Appalachians, the Castizos, the Creoles, the Indian tribes of the USA, the Mapuche, the Kolla, the Toba, the Guarani, the Inuits, the Cajuns…
    It is sad. Very sad, Jared, that you buy the WH propaganda.

    • Long Live Dixie

      It’s a strange and unique trait found only in whites to care about whether distant and unrelated people ‘deserve’ independent countries. The inclusion of Chechens is especially troubling. An Islamic terrorist state right next to Europe? No, thanks.

  • Weaver1

    Mr. Taylor,

    you write:

    “The Acts of Union were more than 300 years ago. Today’s Scots are ten generations removed from independence. They speak the same language as the English and worship the same God.”

    Finland was ruled by Sweden for over 500 years, until 1809. The Finns have had to redevelop their identity since 1917. To declare their distinction, Finns eat salmiak, visit saunas, give out baby boxes to newborns, and play Tablut. Scots would need to similarly redevelop an identity.

    Scottish Gaelic still exists. It even continues in Canada, which was once overwhelming British, including Scots and highland Scots. Highland games and kilts are additional distinctions. I find haggis disgusting, though I am part English.

    Scotland’s population exceeds 5 million; Finland’s population exceeds 5 million. Additionally, both have a high percentage of whites.

    Secondly, you write:

    “Scots want independence for economic rather than national reasons”

    Motive isn’t so important. If Scots later find they dislike their original motives, they can accept them as original sin and strive to make up for the flaw. Is America’s origin so wonderful?

    Man is fallen, and the flowery historical events we celebrate often involve some fiction. I do not mean to say that a lie should be embraced as truth, only that it often is. Ah, an example that comes to my mind: Thucydides questions the veracity of the Battle of Thermopylae in his History of the Peloponnesian War. We all here cherish the tale, but it could be myth.

    Those in favour of union should embrace a hybrid Anglo-Celtic identity and criticise divisive historical figures, like Cromwell. Too often union is interpreted to mean Celts becoming English with the assumption that English are wholly superior. If the English can but find something, anything, they admire about Celts, they’ll have won union. There isn’t a need for decentralisation I think so much as simple respect. Embrace a hybrid identity or sever the union. A hybrid identity requires that positive traits come from each component. It cannot stand on English supremacy.

    Disclaimer: Wikipedia was used for this post.

    • Long Live Dixie

      Weaver1: Scottish Gaelic still exists.

      As does Scots, the Germanic language of the Lowlands.

      Weaver1: It cannot stand on English supremacy.

      There is no danger of that. The Scottish have more autonomy in the Union than the English do.

    • Dougie Hall

      Scotland doesn’t need to redevelop and identity, it already has one, a much stronger identity than England does. Ireland didn’t have to redevelop an identity when it became independent and it was under English rule for a lot longer than the Union between Scotland and England has existed.

    • Bantu_Education

      You are wrong about Finland, it was ruled for centuries by Sweden not Russia.

      • Bantu_Education

        Since I pointed this out Weaver1 has changed his post to reflect the facts – I am disappointed he didn’t credit me, or even up vote me, for correcting him.

  • EFTROM

    If their independence would destroy them, then why would we want to preserve such a stupid people’s culture? And why do non-Scots care what Scotland does with its own country? If they want to let Muslims and blacks and other civilization-destroyers into their land, don’t they deserve the destruction that will follow? I mean, if they want to adopt policies that will harm them…what is wrong with letting them suffer the consequences of their actions? They’ll never learn the error of their ways if they are prevented from experiencing the pain of their socialist proclivities. Am I wrong?

    • Jack Burton

      It could be argued that everyone has the right to suicide or mass suicide if it’s by consent. So if Britain/Scotland want to ruin themselves, it’s their choice. However what they don’t have the right to do is force other whites to commit racial and cultural suicide. The right to peacefully secede would be a good precedent for the rest of us.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Precedent is key. That’s why so many secession movements have been suppressed so aggressively. Once one Jeannie gets out of the bottle, it’s dominos. That’s what Pat Buchanan was alluding to in his latest article.

        Orania was supposed to be precedent, but it was too small of an example.

    • dmxinc

      You know very well it won’t be the average Scot that decides immigration policy just as the average White in America had no say.

      So, No, they don’t deserve destruction. They deserve support and protection from the rest of us.

      Perhaps Scotland could set a precedent on how to protect a European society. They may profess immigration now, maybe that mentality can be changed.

  • Alex Dihes

    Jared, you reproach Scotland being socialists. On this site you advertise a meeting with a Russian “philosopher” Dugin. Who blames market economy, denies private property and DEMANDS government control over every man, every woman, every thing.
    He is called a weather-vane in Russia.

  • Peter Connor

    You have lost your mind, Jared. This is an opportunity for Scotland to become Scotland, escape British diversity, and become energy independent. As Sean Connery said–Freedom!

    • Long Live Dixie

      Peter Connor: . . . escape British diversity . . ..

      Why are people not understanding that the SNP will open the floodgates to the Third World? Salmond and the SNP have said over and over again that they want far more immigrants than what they already have.

      • Peter Connor

        With independence, things might change there…the Scots are notoriously cheap with their own money. And in any event, Scotland is awfully cold…

        • Ella

          and very isolated or rural.

          • Peter Connor

            Well, historically it’s had relations with France, England, Scandinavia, and N. Ireland.

      • nBmnp

        The “British empire” is the road to immigration in Britain. There was no Scottish empire so that fact alone will make immigration restriction a lot easier.

        Now you are of course correct that the Scots could let in everybody anyway, but the debate in “we owe them for our past sins”-Britain would be MUCH DIFFERENT than in “we are Scottish, end of story”-Scotland. It would also make it easier from a practical standpoint because British politicians have a lot of friends in the “Commonwealth” and therefore a lot of friends to lose in case of immigration reduction.

        Another thing is that that all successful policies (Switzerland, Denmark, and – very quietly Finnland) are in small countries while the huge nations are all a disaster immigration-wise. So even if Scotland were just a mini-UK, it would be much easier to start a grass-roots campaign, simply because of it’s smaller size.

        But most importantly, I don’t understand your argument:

        You say they would “open the floodgates”, but they are currently as open as they can be – millions of Pakis can just come over from England. So indipendence of Scotland is a prerequesite for a White Scotland anyway.

        • Long Live Dixie

          nBmnp: The “British empire” is the road to immigration in Britain. There was no Scottish empire so that fact alone will make immigration restriction a lot easier.

          It doesn’t matter if there was a Scottish Empire or not. Many of the European countries that are being flooded did not have an empire. What Swedish Empire was there to correlate with Sweden’s importation of Pakistanis and Somalis?

          What matters is that Salmond has promised to fill Scotland with Third Worlders – many more than there already are.

          nBmnp: You say they would “open the floodgates”, but they are currently as open as they can be – millions of Pakis can just come over from England.

          But they haven’t. England has overwhelmingly been the destination of the UK’s Third Worlders. Scotland is 95% or more white. England is 80% white.

          • Dougie Hall

            Scotland is more like 98% white and England is more like 85% white. Scotland will get immigration no matter which way it votes.

          • Bantu_Education

            If they want to stay in the EU they will have to accept their share of turd-world so-called “refugees”.

          • nBmnp

            It doesn’t matter if there was a Scottish Empire or not. Many of the
            European countries that are being flooded did not have an empire.

            There is a clear correlation, a tendency. The successful countries (Switzerland, Denmark, Hungary, Iceland, Finland) are all non-empires while the empires are all disasters.

            You are correct that there are also non-empires that are disasters, but that does not change the fact that smallness is a prerequesite for a healthy immigration policy and that every empire HAS TO BE multicultural.

            In other words: Scottish independence is not a guarantee for success, but it is a prerequesite for it.

            What matters is that Salmond has promised to fill Scotland with Third Worlders – many more than there already are.

            Salmond can “promise” anything he wants, he won’t be dictator for life, in fact it is pretty likely that in an independent Scotland the political landscape will change so much that it will be unrecognizable in a few years.

            Don’t you realize how the whole immigration business is made possible by the stupid Labour-Conservative divide? (similar to Dem-Rep in the USA)

            An anti-white UK labour party can easily play on anti-English (and anti-Scottish) sentiment to gain power and ignore the immigration-policy.

            When any party has to compete in Scotland and Scotland only, it cannot hide behind some minute details of far away problems – it has to deal with the real problems one of which is immigration.

            Isn’t it the same thing in the USA? How many Southerners voted for decades for the Democrats because they thought it was the “party of the South” even though it has already turned into an anti-White party? And now the Republicans can (and do) throw Whites and especially Southerners regularly under the bus because the Southerners think they have no alternative and will vote for them anyway. And how easy is it for both parties to push immigration under the rug by focussing on millions of other problems all over the continent or even the globe?

            Oh, and another thing which I completely forgot: Scots would no longer have to fight and die in absolutely pointless wars that the UK tends to get involved with. And after every war they would NOT have to let in “our former allies that unfortunately have lost and have no other place to go”.

            Maybe you should rename yourself into “Exterminate Dixie” as that would be more in line with your philosophy of imperialism.

      • Ella

        A few of my friends are Scottish who surrendered their citizenship. They claimed that Scotland is very poor with no real jobs to support oneself or a family. Is this true today? If they bring in more immigrants, that is suicide. What is wrong with us whites????

    • Jack Burton

      Very bizarre argument from Jared. I don’t see his point at all.

      An independent Scotland would lead to a “disastrous immigration policy?” As opposed to the current pro-white one? Realistically the immigration policy wouldn’t be much different.

      Of course it would be nice if Scots were more ethnic-minded and exclusionary, but that wouldn’t be a good PR move that’s for sure. They don’t even have to be explicitly racialist, they could just have higher standards for immigrants which would weed out nearly all of the Third World immigrants.

      Scotland’s independence isn’t just about Scotland, it has positive implications for peaceful secession for all whites.

      • Jimmy Joseph

        White ethno-states would be great.

        Pulling it off would be very hard.

        I am worried this is the only chance left for the Whites. i don’t see how things are going to turn around.

    • nBmnp

      Exactly. I don’t understand what Jared likes so much about the status quo:

      All the “British subjects” can come to *Britain*. There are no “Scottish subjects” overseas.

      • Charles_Dilkes

        Wtf are you talking about? There is no right for citiziens of former British possessions to migrate to Britain. ‘British subjects’? Errr, no, British citizens – and they exist only in the UK.

    • Uncle Bob

      The problem is that the Scottish independence party are leftist who wish join the EU and would allow mass immigration into Scotland thus destroying it. They would have a better chance at survival defending the island as a whole. Right now, there is little immigration into Scotland as it has less industry than England, but the leftists nutters can’t wait to hand over the new Scottish state to Brussels who are intent on dissolving the sovereign nation states of Europe through mass immigration.

      • Dougie Hall

        That’s not the point, straight after independence, there would be an election and most Scots don’t want more immigration. The bigger picture is almost anything in the short term is worthwhile to escape the British state.

        • Uncle Bob

          So they should divorce the UK which would likely force them to remarry the EU? At a time when the UK is close to extricating itself from EU control, the Scots are now going to hand over the north of Britain to that massive anti-white communistic bureaucracy on the continent? London has offered to give them more autonomy if they remain part of the UK – which is a better deal than letting Scotland surrender it’s sovereignty to Brussels and being immediately buried in debt and forced to abide by whatever the EU demands – which always includes mass immigration.

          • Dougie Hall

            UK is not close to extricating itself from the EU at all. The only major party which wants to is getting 11% of the vote. Scotland gets EU immigration whether it votes yes or no. In the longer term, Scotland is much better off independent.

          • Uncle Bob

            So you’re saying UKIP has no intention of leaving the EU? They have recently become a dominant party have they not? Is UKIP a true independence party or just a false opposition created to beat down the BNP and maintain the status quo?

          • Dougie Hall

            Certainly the UKIP would like to leave the EU but they are only the third biggest party in Britain over all, heavily rely on one man and in Scotland, since they are perceived as an English party, have very little support at all. There is no prospect of Britain leaving the EU in the near future. There may be a referendum some time in the next few years but not soon; and if there were, currently, most people in Britain would vote to stay in the EU.

  • dd121

    I suspect that the polls are close because people don’t want to admit to a pollster that they want independence. When the real secret vote comes in I believe that the vote for independence will be bigger than anyone imagined.

  • Leon NJ

    Check out a Youtuber named Millennial Woes. He is a Scotsmen who wants to stay in the UK. The video is titled, ‘My Bloody Country’.

    • M.

      Enlightening.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Jared Taylor is absolutely right. If an independent Scotland is not seeking to preserve their unique culture first and foremost, Scotland is better off staying with Great Britain. If they were planning on closing their borders so as to maintain their cultural and racial purity, seceding so as to give the Leftist immigration policies of the EU the middle finger before leaving the EU, inspiring courage to do the same elsewhere in Europe, I would be in favor of their secession from Great Britain. If they are going to take a Leftist, anti-racist approach to immigration, they need to remain part of Great Britain. As Jared Taylor accurately points out, secession is only positive when fueled by Nationalism. As always, Mr. Taylor hits the nail squarely on the head.

  • KenelmDigby

    Also, I must add that although the Scottish Nationalist Party claims to be a ‘nationalist’ party, it is, in fact, an unabashed and explicitly immigrationist party of exactly the same mould as New Labour.Salmon has bragged of his desire to massively boost third world immigration into Scotland as if this is something to be proud of.

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      Which only increases the suspicion that Salmond is not of real Scottish descent and that his family name has been changed from Solomon to Salmond. I’m not sure, but he has the looks…

      • Jimmy Joseph

        Damn them “Jews” are CLEVER!

        They have brainwashed them Scots to turn on the Brits!

        Quick, let me get David Duke’s opinion on this issue!

        Also would like to get Duke’s opinion on where to get Botox and Plastic Surgery. Excellent work by the way!

        • DaveMed

          Ouch. That one’s going to arouse some ire!

      • Bantu_Education

        …and the slimy lies….

  • ckmariner

    I noticed over the past couple of weeks the vote for independence sparked up. What changed? Well, beheadings tied to Britain were all over the news. That tells me that their is an immigration fear in Scotland. It looks like anti-immigration is fueling Scottish independence, although the media is not talking about it.

  • Jimmy Joseph

    The “Scottish” referendum is another example of White self destruction.

    Whites seem to be very suicidal these days.

    Must be the “jews” fault. Everything else is right? Let me go check out David Duke’s opinion on this to make sense of it.

  • Veni Vidi Vici

    “It seems to me that Scots want independence for economic rather than national reasons “.
    Yet didn’t Scotland join with England for economic reasons, after the failure of the Darian Colony in Panama bankrupt Scotland?

    • Bantu_Education

      Yes, and when the oil runs out they’ll be begging to get back in the UK.

  • JohnEngelman

    Abrupt social and political changes are likely to have unforeseen consequences. They are more likely to be harmful than good. I cannot see how anyone will befit from Scottish independence.

    • Mack0

      Sometimes ideas can be hypnotic. We become so enraptured by an idea we can’t or don’t want to see the long term consequences. Humans are inherently impatient and often fall into this trap.

      • JohnEngelman

        The reality of what has happened to South Africa and even Zimbabwe is rarely reported in the main stream media. It is easy for most Americans to believe that after the end of apartheid and the white minority regime in Zimbabwe that everyone lived happily ever after.

        It is difficult for Americans to ignore the fact that in the United States black social pathology has gotten worse since the civil rights legislation was signed. Therefore it has become dangerous to draw attention to what nearly everyone knows to be true.

        Liberals and even many conservatives thrill to the oratory of Martin Luther King, Jr., while avoiding Martin Luther King Blvd., especially after dark.

        • Mack0

          It’s as if they see history in the same way they experience a movie at the theater. The hero defeats evil as triumphant music plays. They leave the theater not even consider what might happen in the imaginary world they just spent 90 minutes in. Immersion ends when the credits roll. Unlike a movie, life continues on and actions have consequences.

        • LHathaway

          You’re in top form today. We’re so glad to have you, John.

          • JohnEngelman

            Thanks. I am doing the best I can.

            There are conservative aspects to my thinking. I am pessimistic about human nature and human potential. I believe that there is often wisdom in tradition. I distrust abrupt political changes, like independence for Scotland would be.

            On the other hand, I believe that the government has an important role to play in the economy, and in protecting the environment. I see little moral significance in the distribution of wealth and income.

            To the extent that I am a conservative, mine is a conservatism that is without concern for the economic well being of the plutocracy.

          • LHathaway

            My immediate masters are the managers and middle managers. Perhaps I’m not educated enough yet to know that the true enemies of justice are at the very top, and I can be a bit resistant to ‘education’ too, probably sad for me. You’ve made another fine post explaining your way of thinking. I like your conservatism. I tend to be a social conservative, and ambivalent or uninterested in economics – but interested enough to notice that everyone is more or less a ‘marxist’ by this time? Perhaps we’re both a bit socially conservative? Regardless, I disagree with people all the time. It doesn’t stop me from posting here.

          • JohnEngelman

            I do not think that the one percent are enemies of “justice” as much as I believe that economic policies that benefit them seldom benefit me, and vice versa.

            An obvious area where we have different interests is in immigration, and H1b visas. More immigrants mean more job applicants and more consumers. This means lower wages, higher prices, and higher profits.

          • LHathaway

            Oh, I’m sure I’m more anti-immigration than you are, John. Perhaps for different reasons.

          • JohnEngelman

            I like the cultural diversity that immigrants provide, but I recognize that immigration has economic, social, environmental, and political costs.

      • Bantu_Education

        In psychology tests black children consistently prefer to have one sweet now than two later. This sums up their whole character.

        • Mack0

          You are absolutely right. This discovery is crucial to understanding black mentality. As you stated, the inability to delay gratification explains black character and behavior.

          In my opinion, the welfare system has only made this problem worse by encouraging the proliferation of blacks who exhibit this impairment the most. The welfare state has been one giant dysgenics program.

  • Ed Troyer

    If the same bolsheviks who run England continue to run an ‘independent'(?) Scotland then what’s the point of independence? Sounds like Scottish ‘independence’ is just another bolshevik scam.

  • jackryanvb

    Agreed. I feel a real “chip on the shoulder” Irish, Kennedy family current in this Scottish Independence movement. Lot’s of “the English were/are racist towards us” – we’re another oppressed minority same as the oppressed Blacks in South Africa, same Muslim immigrants, third world people of color. Those Conservative Americans, race realists who go for this style of Scott seperatism also tend to be stuck in the past, still wanting to fight the Reagan cold war against our kinsmen the Russians.

    • Long Live Dixie

      Jack, why don’t you think the Scottish are white?

      • jackryanvb

        Yes, the Scots are Whites, yes the Irish are Whites. But, certain forces in these communities push a different line that they are another oppressed minority group like Blacks, Muslims etc.

        Can the Mods please step in an ban this troll “Long Live Dixie” ? He likes to hang out on racial realist web sites, Southern Nationalist blogs and spread dissention, slander other legitimate nationalists like the French National Front which is winning power by promoting the legitimate rights and culture of their own distinct White European people, while working to respect other White European Nationalists like our kinsmen the Russians. Putin’s Russia is the best, even promotes a neutral Russia first Middle Eastern policy, that’s what American nationalists, patriots have wanted since at least World War I. These trolls like Long Live Dixie are a real pain, and a distinctly American Conservative/patriot pain. Has this troll Long Live Dixie contributed anything positive to American Renaissance? Any $ donations?

        When he is not slandering very effective European nationalists, he likes to spread Christian Church sectarian nonsense – hatred of perfectly healthy, positive White Church of Latter Day Saints. Like with all of our real problems with Black rioters, rapists, Muslim throat cutters regular White people in the US South should stress about Donny and Marie Osmond and White Mormon folks in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

        • Mack0

          I’m not surprised. Victimization is a highly profitable industry. One of the last remaining industries in the west to survive globalization.

        • Dougie Hall

          You slander Scottish nationalists and then accuse “Long Live Dixie” of spreading dissent and slander? Is this a joke?

          • jackryanvb

            Sigh.

            Life isn’t complicated. No reason to try to make it so.

            Support your own White ethnic group, if you are Scottish do Scottish Nationalism, if French do French nationalism, White Southern American, do Southern nationalism. But, just be fair to other White groups, other White nations. The Scots should not slander, defame, hate on perfectly good White English people.

            Same applies to White Americans wasting the 1980s hating on White Russians, giving military aid to nasty, throat cutting Afghan Jihadists, same nasty Mudslimes we’re fighting now.

            This commentor Long Live Dixie has a bad history of trolling, playing the Devil’s advocate, slandering perfectly good White Midwesterners, posting ridiculous nonsense that White Latter Day Saints are great threat to Southerners. Come on – how ridiculous is that?

            Anybody reading American Renaissance really believe that Donny and Marie Osmond and other solid White Latter Day Saints are a great threat to Southerners?

            I could see how maybe some cowardly Southerner might get all scared that Donny Osmond was going to come beat them up, but Marie Osmond? Come on! That’s ridiculous.

          • Dougie Hall

            Sorry, I just don’t understand how the same person can write

            “I feel a real “chip on the shoulder”

            Irish, Kennedy family current in this Scottish Independence movement.”

            one moment and then the next moment write

            “But, just be fair to other White groups, other White nations.”

          • Long Live Dixie

            Jack ‘The Troll’ Ryan: The Scots should not slander, defame, hate on perfectly good White English people.

            I see you’ve adopted Ebonics now, Jack. It fits you.

            Oh, and the Scottish are white, no matter how much you deny it. Troll.

        • Long Live Dixie

          Jack, no matter how much you deny it, the Scottish are a white people. Quit saying otherwise! Repeat after me: “The Scottish are white”. Troll.

          (For those who haven’t been following Jack Ryan’s drama sessions, the above is satire. Jack is fond of making up lies about me out of thin air, then repeating them ad nauseum, so I figured I’ll do the same about him for once. Nearly every thing he says about me is an outright lie.)

  • Alex Dihes

    Jared, why do you delete my comments? I cannot accept yet can understand about my talks on the African wisemen – you shield yourself against possible prosecution, but not when I criticize you!!! Are you moving closer to Obama and his cronies?!

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I am scratching my head about Jared on this piece as well. This Scottish independence story is an ethno-state in the making: Jared’s raison d’être.
      And Jared takes this stance? I’m a deer in the headlights.

      • Ella

        Taylor is an English surname so there may be an ethnic bias. If he was an Irishman, viewpoint may be different.

        • Bantu_Education

          Taylor is a common surname in the UK but is more often Scots than English.

          • Dougie Hall

            Yes, Taylor is a typical Scottish spelling, Tailor is a typical English spelling. Jared Taylor is a patriotic American whose specialty and primary concern is the survival of our race. On racial matters, he is a true expert. On other areas, he is sometimes wrong. I question his judgement on this particular issue but I do not question his motives.

          • Mary

            I hope you don’t mind a quick off-topic question. I don’t know if “Hall” is your actual surname or not, but I was wondering if “Hall” is a very common surname in Scotland? I have an important genealogical reason for asking.

  • Blither box

    Why? it would just get full of mosques and no go zones, their women and children would be raped and their heads would be getting cut off in the streets.

    • Dougie Hall

      And that’s not going to happen as part of Britain?

  • Alex Dihes

    If the creatures on the YouTube brand me a racist. I object vehemently. I reply: you are wrong. I am not a racist. I am a PROUD racist. Why? Look around – every thing we have around has been brought in the world by MY WHITE RACE!
    Do I deserve a punishment? Of course! You just MUST punish me. Go back to your African paradise and enjoy watching me dying in misery without your help and supervision.
    ==============
    The Scots obviously deserve to die in misery without having their house inundated with the trash that has already inundated London.

  • jackryanvb

    Well said Mr. Taylor. These anti racist Scottish indepence types remind me of Ron Paul and militia Rancher Cliven Burdy who hated the US Federal Government because of too much militarized border control, preventing the free flow of Mestizo labor in to the USA and letting private property owners hire whomever they wanted with wages determined by “free markets”. White people bending over backwards to try to convince the thought police that they aren’t racist and really just love 3rd world people of color, well, they’re pretty pathetic.

  • Independence will enable Scotland to develop right-wing nationalism and racial awareness that’s now impossible because the right is associated with the squeamish Tory Party. Once liberated from that association, Scotland can develop patriotism separated from the socialists and ant-white racists. Scotland will also face the imperative to abandon socialism once the English won’t be subsidizing it, much as what happened with Slovakia.

    • Dougie Hall

      Yes, both of them will happen, actually, Scotland is little more socialist than England now according to surveys of public opinion.

      • Kit Ingoldby

        Scotland is a GREAT deal more socialist than England in outlook, that is one of the main reasons so many Scots do support independence. An Independent Scotland would be the least likely place in Europe to develop anything remotely like ‘right wing nationalism’ or ‘racial awareness’.

  • Liddell

    It’s rather amusing that the same arguments used in this article by Mr. Taylor to argue against Scottish independence can be used to argue that American independence was a bad idea. That was also “independence for economic rather than national reasons” and they certainly had “no idea” what an American was, and, after two and a half centuries, they seem to have even less of an idea. I assume Mr. Taylor still swears loyalty to George III.

    • Ella

      US also separated from the British colony much over representation and taxation issues. We also had a high number of Scots, Irish and Normans in Colonial America who had natural hatred toward the British rule. Republic of Ireland is much better off economically than the many British subjects are today.

      • Kit Ingoldby

        The Republic of Ireland is economically in a state of near bankruptcy and there is a serious problem in Ireland of losing their best people who are migrating to Britain to escape the economic crisis in Ireland.

        And the idea that ‘Normans’, let alone Scots or Irish would have a ‘natural hatred’ toward Britain is insane! Do you actually know any real history or do you just enjoy wallowing in ignorant bigotry against the British?

        • Dougie Hall

          “Ireland is economically in a state of near bankruptcy” whereas the UK which has not had a positive trade balance in decades and was running a 3% budget deficit at the peak of the economic cycle is not???

          • Kit Ingoldby

            The UK has its problems, but is doing a LOT better than Ireland.

            Ireland’s economy is on life support, its young people are leaving in droves, often to the UK, where there is more work and wages are higher.

          • Dougie Hall

            Last I heard, Ireland’s per capita GDP was higher than Britain’s. Anyway, Scotland should be able to do better than Ireland. It has better racial demographics, better educational standards and oil.

          • Kit Ingoldby

            Ireland’s per capital GDP has dropped sharply below Britain’s.

            Ireland is doing very badly, they had a great economic bubble when it looked like they were all going to be rich and then it burst and the country is basically bankrupt and utterly impoverished. It is a LOT worse of than the UK.

            As for Scotland, the educational standards are not so great and the oil is in sharp decline and the ‘Nationalist’ party wants to celebrate independence by opening Scotland to mass 3rd world immigration.

        • Ella

          I read various library books, watched films on potato famine and studied college History textbooks about the American Revolution, which included basic history of Britain. I also took advanced elective courses in British literature. (Love English Romanticist poetry!) I have had many British friends in the past and also, have a British Aunt. I lived in Europe for some years and English speakers still befriended each other or had their own social circles.

          • Kit Ingoldby

            It sounds like you ‘rolled of the fruit cart’ with your weird litany of whining grievances. The idea that the ‘British rulers’ were some sort of racists against the Celts is really complete propaganda rubbish, especially since the British Royal Family was heavily descended from the Celts! The Scots were more heavily involved in British Imperialism that the English were, yet you are trying to claim some sort of victimhood for them.

            As for where you got the poor oppressed ‘Normans’ from, that is baffling, perhaps you should watch a bit less AE/HC crap and read a few more books.

            The extent of ‘ethnic hatred’ in Britain has been at the level of a few ‘Irish’ jokes on a par with the ‘Polish’ jokes told in the USA. Stop with the victimhood whining, leave that undignified posturing for the lesser cultures and peoples.

  • Franklin_Ryckaert

    Yes, that’s what we are afraid of. The whole thing might even be a trick to hasten the ethnic demise of Scotland.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Shutting off immigration will be a good ethno-state stepping stone, and can be marketed as race neutral.

  • Dougie Hall

    That’s ridiculous. Your friend was welcome to pay for private health care as many other people do if he didn’t want to use the perfectly adequate NHS. As for housing, it’s as good as you want to pay for just as in every other country.

  • Bantu_Education

    If the result is “No” I’d like to see the UK federalised into 12 states. 3 of those will be Scotland, Wales and N.Ireland. The other 9 will come from England whose population of 53 million + is far too many for a single centralised state. I propose England be divided into its 9 natural divisions, which are Lancastria (NW), Northumbria (NE), Yorkshire (N.Central), Mercia East & West (Midlands), East Anglia, Wessex (SW), and the SE region excluding London and London itself, the only part which doesn’t fit so neatly into this plan.

  • Ella

    I wish the Scots well. They have desired separation for centuries.

    • Kit Ingoldby

      No they haven’t.

      They have generally been very happy with the Union, the serious desire for separation has only arisen relatively recently.

      • Bantu_Education

        Yes, it can be dated precisely to when they realised there was a lot of oil in their sector of the North Sea. Before then the SNP were fringe loonies.

        • Ella

          IF money replaced their patriotism, then, they may have a hard lesson like most of the West. I hope it can lead into another direction.

        • Kit Ingoldby

          And now they are going for independence, just as the oil is running out…….

  • Epiminondas

    Actually, what we need is a victim…an example that is so horrible that the scales will fall from the eyes of most Europeans. Maybe Scotland will become that example. With only four million people, it could quickly descend into a third world hell-hole…and be a warning to the rest of Europe. Sometimes you have to suffer pain to get to a cure.

    • Dougie Hall

      Scotland has five million people, not four million – of which about 2% are non-white. So how many non-whites in American now?

      • Epiminondas

        There isn’t very much room in Scotland. Bring in enough minorities and the natives will feel the heat quickly. In America whites still have enough room to get away from festering minority disasters like Detroit and Atlanta. Scotland does not have that luxury. Few European countries do.

        • Dougie Hall

          There are few areas as white in America as even the biggest cities in Scotland are white. If you want a victim to use as an example, you should look closer to home.

          • Epiminondas

            I’m glad to hear you say that, Mr. Hall. May we assume that Scots will pursue a common sense approach to immigration? Or will they succumb to multiculturalism? As I’ve noted before, Americans have a continental sized nation in which to pursue the “joys of diversity”. Scots (and other Europeans) have no such luxury. If you want to look like London in a generation, all you have to do is open your borders.

      • Bantu_Education

        5 million is correct – 4 million is the number of registered voters. The population of Scotland today is no more than it was in 1900, how many other countries can say that..?

        • LHathaway

          hmm, how many countries can say their population is the same as it was in 1900. . how many can say their population is 98% white?

  • LHathaway

    Not necessarily opposed, as we reactionaries usually are. They believe they are kinder and more moral than the British. That was my impression, anyway, having had a short visit there 25 years ago or so.

    There is the question, without the British, if Scotland were all there was in the world, what would they be?

    Perhaps it’s the effect of propaganda. . Scotland has a sizable population of poor, so they are fed a diet of ‘their problems are someone else’s fault’, from the media, in order to prevent unrest among this population? And they believe ‘the world cares about them’. The general population comes to accept this kind-hearted world view? Perhaps it’s necessary for them to accept it. The citizens who believe it help perform the regimes work for them. Suppressing revolution, or unease, may be the 2nd oldest profession in the world. Certainly it’s as old as Dickens.

    I generally see leftists as hateful and evil, fueled by a desire for dominance and to punish others. There is a question of whether or not leftists choose that route as a sort of path of least resistance, as a means to avoid punishment rather than being punished. I suppose if you have some inborn feelings of guilt, or a deep seated paranoia, you don’t have enough confidence to choose the leftist route.

    I suppose I’ve presented two opposing views of ‘leftism’ and ‘kindness’. Depending on whether you are the cat, or the mouse, perhaps. Perhaps they are both true, somehow.

  • Chasmania

    After reading a great many posts that disagree with Mr. Taylor I am coming to the conclusion that whites can and do throw each other under the bus more readily than other races.

    I mean, seriously folks ? One post you find flawed and all of a sudden he’s a WH/British lackey of questionable morals and poor judgment ? Having an opinion that differs from yours on the rare occasion does NOT make you a clandestine agent of the Zionist or whatever conspiracy….Take a breath, please.

  • Dougie Hall

    According to what information?

  • Scott_PA

    “Only one of the 59 Scottish MPs at Westminster is a Tory…”

    Isn’t that a good reason for conservative Englishmen to welcome Scottish secession?

    • Epiminondas

      My thoughts, precisely. Cut them loose.

  • Ian Thomas

    The Scottish in me is making this issue very conflicting, I support Scottish independence, but after reading this I’m rethinking the whole thing. I just don’t know.

    • Kit Ingoldby

      A Scotland outside the Union would be much diminished and ruled by a pretty revolting bunch of cultural leftists who subscribe to all the standard PC nostrums.

      On the other hand, Scottish independence would probably be pretty good for England.

      • Dougie Hall

        “ruled by a pretty revolting bunch of cultural leftists who subscribe to all the standard PC nostrums”

        It already is. You’re describing the Conservatives, the Labour Party and the Liberal Democrats.

        • Kit Ingoldby

          The SNP are even worse.

      • corvinus

        A Scotland outside the Union would be much diminished and ruled by a
        pretty revolting bunch of cultural leftists who subscribe to all the
        standard PC nostrums.

        Yeah, I imagine an independent Scotland would have a disastrous immigration policy just like Norway and Sweden. Because it’s hitched to the UK, though, it has been less affected by the darkie flood.

        • Kit Ingoldby

          Sweden seems to have gone completely insane.

          • Ella

            It is a form of self-punishment for their supposedly “worldly sins.” They have wealth, and others do not.

        • Ella

          We’re drowning in the Southwest USA. Just wait until droves of Hispanics will emigrate into Canada for jobs. We also have many Asians in CA, TX, and NY; they’re from India. Pakistan and ME.

    • Mary

      Me too. The idea of independence is viscerally appealing, but I’m concerned it won’t work out well. Basically, I support both Scotland and England, and I wish the best for them.

  • DaveMed

    Are you implying that Jews 2500 years ago were aware of the fact that mitochondrial DNA is inherited from the mother alone, let alone that mitochondria even exist?

  • NoMosqueHere

    I prefer anglo-american culture, and north america is my home. I don’t want to live in Poland, no offense.

  • I have always been in favour of us staying together, for the way I have always seen it is that the indigenous peoples of Britain should be in this together now, not fighting separately and being distracted into fighting against one another…..particularly over financial issues.

    But that being said, I have read some pretty convincing material on sites such as Alternative Right and the Libertarian Alliance (who are not your standard open borders types) as to why it may be a good idea for them to depart.

    The more the politicians, banks, and so on beg and plead for them to stay – the more I become suspicious of their motives……but that is possibly my quick rule of thumb being applied that ‘what they want to happen’ is always bad news. Not exactly a sensible rule of thumb though, I agree.

    Could this move away stoke the much needed English identity awakening that the left wingers in England fear? Could it remove “Britain” as being the lapdog of Neocon/Zio American foreign policies? Will it force a wake up call that we are no longer the superpower that our leaders still pretend we are? Does it mean that Labour can be kept out of Downing Street for decades to come?

    Or, again, in a strange twist of fate that often accompanied more
    lefty-socialist states in Europe, would it somehow retain its ethnic
    mass like the Communist counties ironically tended to do when compared
    to those nations outside of it?

    Or…..does it mean that Scotland will head to the EU, flood the place with more immigrants, cripple themselves in the process financially and become a socialist-driven burden on our doorstep?

    Does any of it really matter if the socio-political ideas and hegemony remains largely the same, with intra-national companies, bodies, politics ruling the way Scotland is shaped? Is this whole thing pretty much a charade where it really matters – a truly Scottish future for Scotland?

    So yes, the endless flim-flam over fiscal and finances, the temporary issues of welfare and what gets divided up into what…..it gets on my nerves. It has nothing to do with fundamentally securing Scotland as Scottish. It is fake. Fake choices. Fake issues. A fake premise. Of course, I suspect that Wales will be next…..

    But will their fake premise be better or worse than the overall fake premise the rest of us in Britain are in? I don’t really know any more.

    If the Scottish Nationalists were genuine nationalists, proudly carving out their racial and national future and brushing away the globalist/liberalism that is destroying the rest of us…..the answer would be easy.

    Unfortunately, they – and we – are probably going to be damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Whatever way the dice falls, we have to work out how to make it work for our own interests as much as possible.

    • Dougie Hall

      Break up the UK first, then let real nationalism gradually reemerge, only then can problems like immigration and immigrants who won’t assimilate be confronted. Within the UK, real nationalism will not be possible. English nationalist feelings will be diverted into the safety valve of UKIP which has no appeal outside of England. Scottish nationalism diverts its energy into opposition to Westminster which gives it overly cosmopolitan and leftish streaks. Only as their constituent parts, freed from the rotten and obsolete British state can the native people of Britain flourish.

      • Well, that would be the desired result from race-realists and white advocates of the British Isles…… but I am not so certain it will happen that way.

        Some on this comment section even seem to be suggesting that the SNP were somehow playing a covert “long game” (couched in liberalism) in order to assert their ‘true’ ethnic nationalist programmes…… but that is of course so far fetched that I could never take it seriously.

        One thing is for sure – as you say – things need to change and that the ‘Westminster’ juggernaut needs to be diverted off their tracks.

        I certainly cannot blame the Scottish for wanting to decouple with this rabid lot – I wish I could – but I do doubt that the general lefty-liberal nature of the Scottish (which is a bit like Liverpool in that regard) would lead to some kind of true Scottish nationalism any time soon, if at all.

        My fear is that it would just decouple, become burdened with debts (to prop up the addiction to socialist programmes), ramp up immigration and further pursue the transformation of Scotland…..all under the disguise of being an independent nation, but with the usual stooges and manipulators pulling all the levers behind the scenes.

        I collect many articles as part of my nationalism – and I remember some articles in The Scotsman newspaper where some of the movers and shakers in Scotland were stating quite clearly that they wanted Scotland to emulate London as a ‘diverse, multiracial, multifaith, dynamic, vibrant’ place (and all the other platitudes).

        I can only hope such projections are proven to be mistaken.

        With regards to Jared’s article, some people may be giving it a hard time – but I think many here would share his point and his annoyance that much of the talk is about “they don’t pay for NHS car parking” or “they get their student fees paid” or this, that, or the other largely cosmetic and short term policy differences.

        As an Englishman, I couldn’t really care less in the grand scheme of things if my fellow European men and women in Scotland get a better deal on these kinds of things. They are not my rivals, they are my brothers and sisters in this fight for our very survival as the true peoples of Britain.

        I can only wish the Scottish all the best whether they remain in or whether they leave the union. I do wonder sometimes how many Scots would say the same of we English…

  • Brian david Riley

    I am an Englishman who usually votes Tory and I very much hope for a yes vote. Politically Scotland is a ball and chain around our leg. At the 2010 election Scotland sent 52 leftie-liberal MP s to Westminster and only one Tory. If Scotland had not taken part in the last UK election the Tories would have had an overall majority with no need for a coalition with the Liberals which prevented us from withdrawing from the human rights convention and being able to deport a large number of undesirables. A yes vote makes a Tory victory next year much more likely, essential for securing a referendum on EU membership. Don’t confuse the views of Scotland s political elite with those of ordinary Scots folk — A poll a few years back asked them if Scotland needed more immigrants— the majority said no, even though they had and have far fewer than England.

    • LHathaway

      I think whites have to vote anti-immigration, and no other issue. Vote for the party that promises 0 immigration, no matter What their other policies are. Eventually Every party would have a platform of 0 immigration. The other side would be shut out tighter than we are. After a period of time, All of the parties (promising 0 immigration) would actually mean it.

    • Dougie Hall

      Yes, I agree with you. The SNP are left wing partly in opposition to Westminster. After independence, the party would probably break up, maybe not straight away but in any case, a strong Scottish political right would emerge. And on both sides of the border, doing away with the UK would help reawaken real nationalism which England needs even more than Scotland.

      • what american posters on this site do not understand is that the european Left–at least the working class european left (as opposed to european elite Left) — do not want more immigration.

        It is hard for americans to understand, but working class Leftists in scotland (and in europe in general) want both less immigration AND a strong welfare state. Here in america the elite have worked very hard generating tons of propaganda to make sure that young white americans are not allowed to think that way. The political dogma of america will not allow you to mix and match Left and Right like that. In america, it is effectively taboo for a white person to both be against mass immigration AND be for a strong welfare state. Effectively, if you are against mass immigration, you are pressured to be against the welfare state, too.

        But in scotland, if they go independent, I think they will both strengthen their own welfare state AND stop mass immigration. And that has the corporations very worried.

        • Dougie Hall

          I suppose it’s all to do with ethnic identity. In America, part of being a patriotic white guy is support for capitalism. In other words, capitalism is an ethnic marker for whites. In Europe as you say, it’s not so simple. In Scotland, support for socialism is a (relatively weak) ethnic marker for being Scottish. So although Scots are nowhere near so socialist as is commonly believed, they believe they are. Yes, an independent Scotland would certainly attempt to form a strong welfare state. I can only hope that it would take the immigration problem seriously too in the medium term.

          • if you go back to the 1600s in colonial america, you had most of the white population as either indentured servants or the descendants of indentured servants. The rest of the population was made up a a large chunk of blacks, most of whom were indentured and some free. Then you had a fairly large chunk of free whites and the white upper class.

            What happened was that there was a rebellion that burned Jamestown Virginia to the ground. This rebellion was composed with lower class whites and blacks.

            The upper class was composed of almost all whites (and a few blacks (who were slaveowners)). The upper class knew they had to separate the blacks and the whites–divide and conquer. So the upper class created chattel slavery and made the blacks permanent slaves. The upper class made it illegal for lower class whites to mix with blacks. They also made other laws that raised whites in social status compared with blacks. For example, you could whip a black in public but not a white, etc.

            This legal elevation of poor whites’ social status above all blacks created an alliance between the white upper class and the white lower class. This was done deliberately by the upper class whites to prevent the lower class whites from aligning with blacks against the upper class. Dr Edmund Morgan called this a ‘screen of racial contempt’ in his textbook American Slavery, American Freedom.

            That divide between lower class whites and blacks was and still is the crucial cultural aspect of america. It still exists today to some degree. Also, the white working class in america is still allied to some great degree to the upper class and their corporations. Hence the GOP. But you may have some change in that area. Dave Brat for example is a GOP politician who rejects the alliance between working class whites and the upper class and their corporations.

            That cultural divide and upper class-lower class white alliance led to Jim Crow after the Civil War. However, because the elites had to stop mass immigration in about 1920 (because the immigrants were bringing in socialism from europe), there came into existence a relative shortage of labor in america. This led to the golden age of white labor in the 1950s, when a white man could support his family in style while his wife raised the kids. The corporations did not like that one bit. So they created the civil rights movement to erase that cultural divide and raise the blacks and other nonwhites in social status. This civil rights movement (along with feminism) would increase the supply of labor and depress wages, starting in the late 70s.

          • Dougie Hall

            Thanks, that’s very interesting. I’m no expert on American history but don’t you think different ethnic groups are central to this? For example, there was the WASP elite and in the South, the a Cavalier elite and a Scots-Irish elite too. They all had different perspectives presumably and that must have contributed a lot to the divide over the Civil War. Also, a Catholic elite emerged in the North East well before 1920’s I thought. And a powerful Jewish elite was becoming influential too. Of course they would all have had some common interests but clearly some important differences too (otherwise surely there would never have been need for the Civil War).

        • Bantu_Education

          Hmmm, a strong welfare state will attract turd-worlders like flies to the honeypot…!

    • of course the white working class of scotland want less immigration. That is the way of all white working class.

      And once the scots dump england they will have better control of their own nation, and they can keep out the third world hordes.

      One reason the scots will have better control of their own nation after independence is that independence means more decentralization. A decentralized government is better controlled by the people.

      With scotland in the UK, the central government is far away in London. Harder for the people to control the government when it is large and far away. Better to have the government more local and smaller. Isn’t that what conservatives have always said? Decentralization is better? But look at how establishment conservatives are against this scottish independence. Truth is that establishment conservatives just want to keep the status quo.

  • Garrett Brown

    Hitler allowed Jews to take their wealth with them once they decided where to relocate. German wealth was built on the backs of Germans who were all put back to work to build the Nazi war machine.

  • For England’s sake, I hope Scotland secedes.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Apparently no relation to William Wallace.

  • Enoch_Power

    A Big YES from me. The British Parliament is infested with vile and corrupt Scottish Labour MPs who vote on legislation for England whilst Scotland has a completely different legal system and almost complete autonomy.

    I want Scottish Labour OUT of England.

    • Dougie Hall

      And I want them out of Scotland!

  • Long Live Dixie

    The USSR couldn’t take Finland and it was caught by surprise when Germany invaded. A Soviet invasion of Germany would have been ideal. Germany would have annihilated the USSR.

    • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

      Yes. This is a tribute to the Viking fighting spirit of the Finns. Herr Hitler also lied to the Finns, a nation that epitomized his Nordic ideal, and was far from loyal and virtuous in his dealings with Finland.

  • Long Live Dixie

    Most Americans now are not of British stock. I was speaking only of the roots. America became a pan-European melting pot generations ago.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    Look at it this way. If the Scots were naïve in thinking they should split for economic reasons (though I don’t believe that reason) and the economic situation turns bad, what will happen? The natives will turn on the foreigners. Voila! The birth of an ethno-state.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Exactly. Most Negro slaves were treated well by their owners, as attested to by interviews with former slaves conducted around 1900. The Negro slaves had a far higher quality of life than Negroes who had remained in Africa. Many American Blacks know this fact, as they have memories of elders from the older generations who expressed reverence and respect for White Southerners who had treated their forebears well. Such realities do not fit well into the narrative of victimhood, though, that guarantees hand outs and preferential treatment, and gives license to their racial hatred of Whites.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    Exactly. The egalitarian, anti-racist immigration policies would destroy Scotland. With such policies, Edinburgh and Glasgow will be worse than Amsterdam in short order. Kilts will give way to disks in lips and random violence.

  • OHDeutscheKlezmerRebel

    I’m Scandinavian American, 1/4 Swedish, 3/4 German descent. The Scandinavians are descended from Vikings. We are tough warriors who will crush any enemy once our anger boils over. The Viking Warrior Spirit lies close to the surface in all of us!!! In the words of Swedish metal guitar virtuoso Yngwie Malmsteen: “into battle, we will ride; deaths will follow, by our side”.

  • Why leave Britain to join Africa?

  • Bob

    It may be possible that Scotland will turn into another Norway or Sweden.

    • yeah, that is the likely path. And how absolutely horrible for the scots to have to live in a nation like that. Horrible. Just look at the norwegians and swedes. They have such high taxes on them. They often have to emigrate to america where they stand in front of home depot waiting to get day jobs. It’s true–all those guys you see in front of home depot looking for work are from norway and sweden.

  • Singingbird1

    If the Scots vote for Independence then England will be rid of the 59 Scots Labour M.P.s and may never suffer from another Labour Government.The Scots complain about being ruled by Westmister well I am complaining about the terrible,malign influence that Scots Labour M.P.s have had on England.I mean just look at the damage Labour has done to England.I don’t care about the U.K. but I do care about England,my Country.
    I live and was born in North East England about 40 miles south of the ancient Hadrian’s Wall.If the Scots vote for Independence then I will be a happy man.Then all England needs is more UKIP success and we will be on our way to repairing the damage done to the Country by all the Lefty destroyers.

    • Bantu_Education

      I agree with what you say but the labour party is breeding a new black and brown and muslim electorate to replace the Scots, should they secede. In another 10 years, maybe less, the Labourites will have a majority in England.

      • Singingbird1

        This is a very important day for the future of England.I do so hope that they vote for Independance.Thank you my American friend for your reply.The English like Americans.Good luck to you.

        • Bantu_Education

          I am not American – I am English sometime resident of S.Africa, hence my alibi.

          • Singingbird1

            Very sorry.terribly ignorant of me.But good luck to you anyway and if it is YES vote then good luck to England.

  • I think mr taylor just does not like to see change.

    • joe pat

      I think Mr Taylor is right on target.

      A free Scotland will open its borders to mass immigration thinking it will be their salvation.

  • Singingbird1

    Just look at that aggressive Scot with his shirt off.Would any of you on here want to interact with these people?

  • because an independent scotland would be smaller and more homogeneous, the working class white majority will have more control then. Small, white and homogeneous. A good nation for the working class because they will have more control and the corporations will have less control. Independence from the UK means the government will be right there in scotland. That is decentralization in action. Decentralization is good, right? That is what the conservatives keep telling us. But the conservatives, for some reason, don’t like this idea of an independent scotland.

    What will the working class white scottish majority do? Well, polls show they do not like mass third world immigration. So they will shut it down. Good for the working class Scots! But the corporations and liberals won’t like that.

    The working class scots like a strong welfare state. And scotland really does not have many nonwhites. So the scots will have a strong welfare state. Good for the working class Scots. But the corporations and conservatives won’t like that.

    Independence is good for the white working class in scotland. They can have their cake and eat it, too. A strong welfare state and no hordes of third worlders. And corporations and liberals and conservatives can go lump it.

    • Dougie Hall

      “polls show they do not like immigration”

      That is true for almost every Western country yet almost every Western country sees high immigration. So I don’t think we can be too optimistic.

      Firstly whites need to rediscover nationalism. Only then do we have even a chance to stop immigration. The best that can be said is that for Scotland, the current demographics mean there is time for this to happen. I support independence mainly because it is the first step towards rebuilding strong real nationalism.

      • but in the smaller (and more democratic) white nations, such as denmark and switzerland) the white majority is making moves to reject mass immigration.

        Independence would make scotland smaller and should make the government more accountable to the people.

        • Dougie Hall

          I hope you’re right; and yes, there has been some kind of reaction in certain of the smaller European countries (although inside the EU there’s only so much even a genuine anti-immigration government can do).

          It’s just that so far as I know, in every Western country now, people want less immigration. If democracy were perfect, that’s what they’d get. But somehow, they don’t!

          I do agree with you though that in a country of five million people with a strong ethnic identity, democracy will certainly work better than in a country of sixty million (or three hundred million) with conflicting ethnic identities.

        • Ella

          Being a highly functional society, I think Switzerland has a true Republic in which the Cantons hold the dominant power of governing. In USA Civil War was the start of centralizing the governmental powers. You can see the Feds crushing State decisions such as gay marriage, voting acts, education mandates and Obamacare. It will only get worse.

      • Ella

        Scotland is so geographically small that socialism can work in highly homogenous societies as seen in Denmark and Norway. Unlike the USA, we have too many diverse cultures who will demand the benefits to be free. We do have generous welfare programs much like Europe, but we deny it openly. I read Hawaii has average welfare benefits up to 50K per year (Hawaii Reporter). So, politicians deflate our currency rather than raising our taxes to conceal the ugly word “tax” -death of their political careers. .

    • Bantu_Education

      The welfare state needs to be wound down not expanded, it attracts too many turd-world parasites.

  • TonyWestfield

    I have long believed that one of the few flaws of our American Constitution is that it reinforces the concept of perpetuity–its predecessor “Articles of Confederation” made the point explicitly–and confuses us for centuries with the foggy notion of “a more perfect union.” Granted, the great hurdle back in the day was to get together, to find a way to make a compact that would include all the colonies…but the Constitution has no instrumentality for cleansing the whole body by throwing a State out of the union if that State is understood to be a disease. Massachusetts comes to mind for the singular reason that they continued to return the drunken communist murderous womanizer, Ted Kennedy, to the Senate for three generations. Likewise, the USA as a whole should have kicked California out when we had the chance.

    Scotland sends around fifty Labour representatives to Parliament for every one Conservative. Really, fifty to one? The UK as a whole should have tossed Scotland out of the union long before the Scots took up the question on their own. But let’s not lose sight of the strategic stratum that lies beneath every “issue”: Perhaps if the real prospect of being kicked out had loomed steadily in the minds of Scots (or for that matter, the voters in Massachusetts or California), the Scots would have voted better for a hundred years running, or longer.

    • Dougie Hall

      Why do you think the Conservative party is better than Labour? Neither of them care about conserving the British people.

      • TonyWestfield

        DH, you ask a native question to a foreigner who must plead ignorance on the practical facts involved. I have only a faint impression that the Conservative party is better for the UK than Labour. Do not doubt that I understand your point about “the British people” and share your concerns. We have the same quandary here in the USA–the political parties versus the American people, the special money interests versus the American people, the special social interests (i.e., grievance “minorities”) versus the American people, etc.

        The generic idea is fairly simple. A faction that is far “on the outs” with the rest is going to bend the whole system in a direction it doesn’t want to go. The normative response to that faction is: Fine, you want to “be that”–go and be it on your own–go and have your way with your philosophy, unimpeded by the rest of us, and we shall see how you do with the choices and policies you so dearly prefer. This is the concept behind our Electoral College, that a State can go 51% or it can go 99%, and in either case the vote is the same–that is to say, the 99% consensus in that State can’t swing the whole country. It also means that the 99% consensus can positively “have at it” within its own State and create there, contained within the State’s political boundaries, the one-party single-philosophy paradise that 99% would seem to claim for itself. In the example of Scotland, the normative response is, go ahead and love Labour by a ratio of fifty to one–go and be that, be it to your heart’s content, unalloyed by the “foreign” influence of Conservatives, et al.

      • IstvanIN

        Their Tories are like our Republicans, almost useless to a man.

    • joe pat

      It is an interesting idea that Scotland’s liberals have contributed to the destruction of England – while Scotland remained relatively safe from the effects of mass immigration.

      With the removal of so many lefties, will England be able to lean right and get itself back on track?

      Of course the only way to save England is mass deportations. I doubt they have the spine for that.

      • TonyWestfield

        Joe, it’s a shame, but you are probably correct about the lack of “spine.” The game isn’t lost, however, because other strategies are well within the spine quotient of a mainstream political party such as the Conservatives. My first target would be collectivism, and the opening strategy is simple: Start squeezing–and then continue to tighten the crimp–on the stream of benefits that flow to your internal enemies. Why in the world would a majority native population want to subsidize the costs associated with the creation of, and nurturing of, more human units that derive from the classes or people who have demonstrated an intent to destroy the host country? One of the least understood concepts in our modern civic life is the dual nature of collectivism. We instantly think of “public” collectivist institutions such as schools and, in the UK, the health service. But collectivist systems can also be private, in which case nobody is “entitled.” Space here is limited, but I’ve tipped my hand (food for further thought).

  • Bantu_Education

    “Part of the solution to save Europe – is going to have to involve dismantling the magnet that attracts the parasites from the third world.”

    Well put…!!!

  • Bantu_Education

    Bernicia, yes, I’ve seen it on historical atlases – wondered what happened to them..! Wonderful name for a country too, btw.

  • Bantu_Education

    Very well put. I agree with almost everything you said, except I don’t think Scotland would have become as rich as Norway which has a lot more oil and was quite a bit wealthier than Scotland when the oil was discovered. What do you think about my idea (assuming a No vote) to federalise the UK? And I don’t just mean that England should be one unit – it is far too populous. I think England should be divided into 9 states, average population of each would be similar to Scotlands.

    • RealisticGuy

      Hmm, how about 7 states, and we call them East Anglia, Wessex, Sussex, Essex, Kent, Mercia and Northumbria?

  • Singingbird1

    VOTE FOR INDEPENDENCE SCOTLAND; YOU ARE A BURDEN ON ENGLAND.GO TO HELL.

  • RealisticGuy

    The English and the Scottish are not real nations? What rubbish! Of course they are.

    Scottish independence is a very good thing. People tend to vote liberal, to shake down the majority population, when they are a minority. But when they have their own land to protect, when they are the majority, they are more conservative. Look at the difference between Jews in America, and Jews in Israel.

    Not to mention, clearing out the liberal Scottish MPs from Westminster will do massive damage to Labour. And hopefully result in the remainder of the UK leaving the EU.

    It is possible it could strengthen UKIP, and even lead to Welsh independence, and finally, English self governance. England doesn’t have a parliament of its own.

  • Mary

    What if your ancestral homeland doesn’t want you? My ancestry is almost entirely British Isles, and I’m well-nigh certain that Americans such as me are not wanted. So that’s not an option.

  • The White Wolf

    Interesting reading some of the comments here. Do you really think these socialist birds will suddenly change their feathers? “They’ll act differently when it’s their OWN country…” “People in the lower classes have ALWAYS been against immigration…” Ah, the youthful dreams of naiveté… After royally screwing the UK they will simply continue to follow the distructive social and economic policies they have always followed. They are programed to think this way. Growing pains? May as well hang out a white flag for the muslim predator scum to run to. You can hear the drumbeat now: “We’re a progressive multicultural society, we welcome all races and refugees. If you don’t agree you will be forced to go through corrective social therapy (brainwashing) and have your assets seized if you do not comply.” Bottom line, Scotland will be ripe for Rotherham 2.0 in 20 years.

  • Charles Lufkin

    I agree.

  • jackryanvb

    Let’s be hopeful, be positive.

    Maybe the new immigrants to Scotland will be fun, sexy White Eastern Europeans like Anna Kournikova.

  • Stiv44

    I’ll simply say that I support any and all independence or secession movements anywhere in the world.

    • CalMark

      “Simple” being the key word, there. Simple-minded, that is.

      • Stiv44

        I’m sure you have a great reply there somewhere.

  • Bantu_Education

    Looking at the betting, which is heavily in favour of a “No” despite all the misleading hype that it is on a “razor-edge” – I think the crucial swing factor will be what pollsters are calling the “Shy No” vote – or should we call it them the “Scared No” vote? Nobody wants to say they are going to vote “No” when they know that after the voting is done and dusted and Alex Solomon, er Salmon, has shot his wad and is a dead fish – then have their faces re-arranged by roving bands of angry drunken Scottish “yes” yobbos…..!!! This is why it will be NO..!!! By a large margin..!

  • David Brims

    Our English friends have an inbuilt snobbish air of superiority about them, not all but some, it’s a left over from ruling a quarter of the World, ” How dare the Scots want to govern themselves , what impertinence !!!” Shocking isn’t it, wanting to govern your own country ? It’s such a shame that they’re like that.

    • jackryanvb

      Wanting to govern their own country….. by submitting to the EU bureucrats in Brussels, by giving up freedom of speech, freedom of thought, drinking the cyanide Kool Aid of mass immigration, multi culturalism, hating other perfectly good White European peoples.

      If given the choice between living next door to a healthy, White English family or next door to Paki Muslim pedophile sexual groomers. Most Amren readers would choose the White English.

      These politically correct, cultural Marxist Scottish independence folks, they say they prefer the Paki Muslim pedophiles.

      • David Brims

        I don’t want EUSSR membership.

  • David Brims

    The problem is Hitler quite literally killed ethnic nationalism, so if you’re a nationalist you have to be a civic nationalist or the liberal media will slaughter you, by shrieking ‘nazi, racist, bigot.’

    • jackryanvb

      Doesn’t seem to be a problem in Russia or other Eastern European countries.

  • jackryanvb

    Do other amren readers have the feeling that we’ve somehow been here before – some political, social, intellectual, even religious movement that claims to be for “our people” only it turns out, it really isn’t for our people – it’s for the whole filthy world and our adversaries, enemies have to be healthy, positive White European people?

    Mid 1960s Kennedy Liberalism – for White North East ethnics, for White union workers, White progressives being handsome White liberal noblemen joining Kennedy Shriver’s Peace Corps, ending poverty, injustice and RACISM, but also being very strong for Israel. Robert Kennedy got killed for the contradictions of being for all things non White, third world and also being 110% for Israel, Sirhan, Sirhan a third world immigrant of color didn’t understand the Kennedy MLK Lib Hollywood, Camelot team.

    Then there was the 1980s Reagan Revolution, for Reagan Democrats, Fighting the Russians in Afghanistan, 110% for Israel, mass non White immigration to the US, other White countries not something to be discussed, imperiled White minorities in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, South Africa – not to be discussed, instead we are allowed to discuss free market economics.

    Then there was the very White American Religious Christian Right of the 1980s, early 90s – White Conservatives flock to oppose the New York Hollywood Liberal media. Norman Lear gets very concerned, funds “people for the American way” to oppose the racist, radical right. Why should he have worried? The American Christian Religious morphs in to ignoring racial realities, goes 110% for Israel, does nothing about Lib Hollywood, porn etc.

    Next, there is Conservative Inc strong National defense (why Nation?) with initial appeals to Southern Whites, Nixon Atwater’s “Southern Strategy” – morphs in to Neo Conservatism – invade the world for Israel, invite the world to USA, White nations, in hoc to Fed bankers to pay for this. Any remotely pro White Conservatives like Buchanan, Brimelow, Sobran, Derbyshire get purged from National Review, Conservative Inc.

    And now we find Scottish nationalism, Scottish independence with rumblings of similar separation, independence in other White nations, White areas. Only this version of White ethnic nationalism, White ethnic seperatism, independence includes:

    Welcoming mass immigration from non White countries, including Muslim countries. And this form of White ethnic nationalism involves hating on another closely related group – White English!

    Anybody want to bet if these Scottish nationalist independence folks are also going to go 110% for Israel, love Hollywood?

    Yep, this is looking very familiar, we’ve been down similar roads before, our folks falling for false Christs, it’s in the Bible NT.

    Mathew 23-24

    “…23″Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe him. 24″For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.”

  • David Brims

    Before the creation of the United Kingdom between England and Scotland in 1707, people tend to forget that we were two separate and distinct nations, Britain seeks to obliterate both English and Scots nationalism.

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    Yeah, that was the scenario I envisioned: without Scottish Labour voters, England/Wales would swing to the right, maybe to UKIP, and possibly out of the EU; meanwhile Scotland joins the EU and learns firsthand the real wages of diversity and socialism.

  • Charles Lufkin

    The SNP is a bunch of multi-cult socialists who would open Scotland to third worlders.

    • David Brims

      Scotland already is open to Third Worlders by the traitorous Labour, Liberal and Tory parties.

  • WR_the_realist

    Good article. The pro-independence Scottish are apparently nationalists who have no idea what a nation is. White people invariably realize the downside of diversity only when it’s far too late to do something about it.

  • Mrfinoni

    There is regional disparity in Canada because major companies and businesses set up in proximity to the larger centers. Thus the wealthier regions get wealthier while the more Canadian regions remain in the doldrums. Thus regional Canadians of whom I know many are forced to migrate to Southern Ontario for example. They are in a disadvantaged position and are similar to immigrants in their own country. Sometimes having more regional autonomy is a good thing. Why should a Scot be forced to work in a warehouse for low wages in the outskirts of London with displaced person as a supervisor instead of their own country.

  • Christorchaos

    The thesis of this article was pretty much proven by the vote in Glasgow. 53% for, 47% against. How many people in this major financial capitol, with all those trendy posers, are voting yes for any reason other than someone in their family or circle of friends is in financial, law, government, or one of the related industries that would benefit from the sudden influx?

  • svartekaptenen

    Suppose that Scotland go their own way does not the British change their flag then? It would look rather strange without the blue.

  • The Scottish Independence vote shows how controlled things are in modern times. If Scotland would have voted for secession they would have turned around and joined the European Union. Scotland was already left wing and would have become even more liberal as an independent nation in the EU. However Scottish independence might have helped with secession groups in other parts of the World including here in the South.