Rep. Grijalva: Distinction Between Legal, Illegal Immigrants ‘Doesn’t Exist’

Zoey DiMauro, CNS News, September 26, 2014

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) said Wednesday that any distinction between illegal immigrants and those who obey U.S. laws and enter the country legally “doesn’t exist.”

CNSNews asked the Arizona Democrat, who supports a movement by a growing number of churches to provide sanctuary for illegal aliens facing deportation, what he would say to those who entered the U.S. legally.

“That the issue here is about family,” Grijalva replied. “That the issue here is that the people that are seeking the support and the protection of sanctuary are people that are hard-working, families, blended family many times, with citizens and children, and this is not about an issue of some people deserve it, some people don’t.

“Quite frankly, the people that have gone through the immigration process and waited all those years are some of the most staunchest supporters, within those congregations, of the individuals that are being provided the protection,” Grijalva said during a press teleconference hosted by Church World Service.

“So it’s not an either/or and it’s not us versus them,” he continued. “It’s a human issue. And as somebody else said, these are people that have been part of . . . these are kids that go to school with our kids, and these are people that work and pay taxes as we do.

“And so that distinction that you want to make doesn’t exist.”

“The sanctuary movement is a response to the lack of action,” Grijalva continued. “To lead on this moral imperative is critical.

“Sanctuary would spare many families [from] deportation and [give] some the ability to be able to function and live in our society, something all these families have earned,” he added.

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Sanctuary participants rely on an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) policy that does not allow immigration officers to enter sensitive areas such as schools and churches.

“We’re fairly confident that they won’t enter into the sacred space of a house of worship and we’re just hoping they continue to keep that promise,“ said the Rev. Alison Harrington, whose church, Southside Presbyterian Church in Tucson, is part of the movement.

“After the President’s announcement on September 6th to, again, delay administrative relief to those at risk of deportation, faith bodies began to question the morality of waiting and bearing the daily loss of our brothers and sisters any longer,” said Rev. Gradye Parsons of the Presbyterian Church U.S.A. who participated in the Sept. 24 teleconference.

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  • Easyrhino

    If tens of thousands of White Europeans were pouring into the USA illegally instead of our amigos south of the border Senor Grijalva would be singing a different tune.

    It’s all about racial and ethnic solidarity except for the White Man for whom it is verboten!

    • NoMosqueHere

      The hispanics are playing to win. They fully appreciate the relationship between political power and demographic dominance. The only folks who don’t seem to appreciate it are most whites.

      • kjh64

        What Hispanics don’t get is what if they do win? They’ll simply turn America into a replica of Latin America. There won’t be enough Whites do keep America running as a first world country. All of these Latinos that came for a “better life” will be back to square one. Be careful what you wish for.

        • DonReynolds

          They cannot win. There are over 200 million whites alone in this country…..and another 43 million blacks, that the hispanics cannot stand either. There is no way 53 million hispanics can win.

          • IstvanIN

            They won’t always be 53 million. Shall I sing La Cucaracha?

          • DonReynolds

            You are correct. When the shooting starts, there may not be any left in this country. They cannot imagine how one-sided a shooting situation would be.

          • George Costanza

            I think if we lose political control we’ll be severely persecuted, PC on steroids, and when that happens I think that’s when the civil war will start. Were gonna have to choose to be either second class citizens or first class Americans who take the country back inch by inch..Gen. MacArthur said it best during the Korean war “Take it all”

          • DonReynolds

            Agreed. The shooting will begin long before we lose political control. My Scot-Irish relatives do not have a problem with fighting…..add a few Saxons, convinced they have been cheated, and you have a war that cannot stop. That is the danger, of course. Once all the pent-up resentment is unleashed, there is no way of predicting when it will ever end. Starting it is the easy part.

          • propagandaoftruth

            I love your avatar and always imagine your statements as if George Costanza were saying them. Have you seen the new Dredd flick on Netflix? Just wondering if the Dredd voice ever comes through.

            Anyway, this next election will be interesting, as well as what our high yellow prezzy does immediately after.

            I hate that guy.

          • George Costanza

            lol This IS George Costanza!! That Dredd flick is a window into the future!! SERENITY NOW!!

          • propagandaoftruth

            Yeah, really tight movie in so many ways.

            Olivia Thirlby was very hot. Good acting and great body double, ha ha.

            I actually think it will one day eclipse old classics like Robocop, maybe even Blade Runner on the best lists of movies. It takes a little while for a great Sci-fi/subversive film to sink in.

            Until the world begins to resemble it.

          • Dave West

            When communists libtards in this country whisper about banning hate speech just like they have done in Europe, under the pretense that it “insights violence;” they are talking about preventing the free speech of Amren readers.

          • Who Me?

            53 million today, 153 million in 5 years

          • DonReynolds

            Impossible. That would take the entire population of Mexico.
            A million a year have been coming across the open border for years, without any significant pushback…..but resistance to invasion is growing and the unhappy crowd are the ones who own guns.

          • Jack Whistler

            And they are long past-due on using them.

          • 1stworlder

            They are squatting out kids on you pay in taxes.
            Mexican President Calderon said “Where there is Mexico there is Mexicans” , man is he right when you look at the litter, corruption, crime,& age of consent 12, the only thing missing is the woman-male donkey shows.

          • George Costanza

            more like where there are mexicans there is mexico…

      • Dave West

        Before America turns into a brown third-world republic, someone should probably do something about all the nukes. The last thing the world needs is a dysfunctional third-world country with 10,000 nuclear warheads.

        • Mary

          I believe that’s what they did in South Africa. They dismantled the nukes, before the reins of power were handed over to the ANC. Smart move.

          • ghettovalley

            This is correct. And thank God they did. Could you imagine those backwards ignorant rapists with nuclear weapons? I would be surprised if they could figure out how to use them, though.

  • AmericanCitizen

    “So it’s not an either/or and it’s not us versus them,” he continued. “It’s a human issue”.

    Actually, it is an us versus them scenario. The lefties are confusing people by invoking human rights and pulling heartstrings, but the bottom line is that people are breaking the law by illegally entering this country, and are expecting a reward for doing so.

  • These distinctions don’t exist because he does not want them to exist.

    But he is right in one respect: They may exist in theory, but they do not exist in reality, if immigration law is not enforced and is made a dead letter.

    • propagandaoftruth

      Is this magical Hispanic so stupid he can’t understand the distinction?

      • mobilebay

        He’s past stupid. The things he says borders on treason. Apparently, this excuse for a US Representative doesn’t know the laws of this country at all, or worse, he knows them and simply chooses to ignore them. Of course, we are in this mess because the present and several past administrations have also ignored them.

  • Usually Much Calmer

    After 20 years of living in the US, immigrants from latin american countries still have twice the rate of welfare dependency as natives.

    I say that every time someone wants to talk to me about immigration. They can say whatever they want, I just keep repeating it if they don’t get it. Human this, family that, yes, I have a heart, thanks. They will bankrupt us if we let this continue.

    • 1stworlder

      I point out that even after 4 generations in America Hispanics are only ahead of blacks at every merit based test but short distance runs.

  • LHathaway

    Can we call our new nation in the Pacific Northwest ‘Sanctuary’? Don’t worry, for hard striving Black Americans, and one’s unduly over penalized in jail, we will move to give them ‘Amnesty’. I hope you Hispanics, and the honorable Mr. Grijalva, I hope you like that.

  • DaveMed

    Raul Grijelva should learn some English.

    There is quite a difference between “legal” and “illegal.”

    • Greg Thomas

      Most La Raza mexicans like Grijelva ignore that distinction.

  • MekongDelta69

    Distinction between Grijalva and what’s on the bottom of your cesspool doesn’t exist.

  • Adolf Verloc

    Amusing to see that the Presbyterian Church, one of the dying dinosaurs of American Protestantism, was huffing and puffing about “invasion of their sacred space.” I agree – fire in some tear gas and see who comes out.

    • DonReynolds

      I wish they had been arrested for harboring illegal aliens, aiding and abetting, conspiracy, and human smuggling. All of the mainline protestant churches have people who have bought into mass suicide.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    “That the issue here is about welfare,” Grijalva replied.

    “That the issue here is that the people that are seeking the lifetime support of the American taxpayers, many criminals and destitute, with deadly diseases needing free healthcare, and all illegal aliens have a right to the American welfare system.”

    Fixed.

  • Who Me?

    “Quite frankly, the people that have gone through the immigration process and waited all those years are some of the most staunchest supporters, within those congregations, of the individuals that are being provided the protection,”

    That’s strange. I seem to remember some years ago, those legal immigrants who had worked and waited and done it all the right way to come to America, considered the ones who weaseled their way in illegally the worst sort of cheats and any acceptance of them would have been recognized for the slap in the face that it was. The very fact that is not still commonly considered the same is direct proof that the their collective IQ is going down the tubes fast.

  • DonReynolds

    He is partly correct but mostly wrong. Under the US immigration law, there are no illegal immigrants. They are not immigrants at all, if they came here illegally. The only immigrants are those who are part of the immigration system, i.e. they came here legally. The illegals cannot be called immigrants of any kind. I know them as invaders, cartel hit men, kidnappers, murderers, prostitutes, drug mules, smugglers, sexual predators, including rapists and child molesters. But you get the idea.

  • libertarian1234

    “Rep. Grijalva: Distinction Between Legal, Illegal Immigrants ‘Doesn’t Exist’

    Yes, because the vast majority of illegals are Latin.

    If they were Eastern Europeans, he would be the first to scream about closing the borders.

    Anybody who doesn’t understand that trying to successfully integrate people of different tribal factions is a recipe for disaster and is doomed to fail, is a fool of the highest order.

  • IKUredux

    OLE, ASS HOLE! These words rhyme, O.K.? Oh, and, by the way, Jose: I know that’s not your name, but still it’s just the same, you’re just another mexican trying to take over, raul, so go drown in a paool. Por Favor.

  • WR_the_realist

    Please show me a Hispanic Democratic politician who doesn’t take the same position as Raul Grijalva.

  • Dave West

    These reconquista idiots always boast that brown-skinned natives are free to move about the Americas whenever they want. This is complete crap. Even when the Americas were brown continents, indigenous people were not free to migrate in mass wherever they wanted. If Aztec people moved in mass to what is presently the U.S., they would have to deal with the Comanches and the Navajos, both of whom would have been far less kind than the United States border patrol; i’m pretty sure the Comanches didn’t have libtards concerned with the “human rights” of whiny illegal “Chicanos.”

    These people always complain about “illegal” Europeans, which is funny, because the only reason “indigenous” Americas can migrate in mass without getting slaughtered by other tribes is because of Europeans being the the Western Hemisphere. The only reason they are coming North is because all those illegal Europeans established a well functioning economy, populated with white taxpayers.

  • Roger Noah

    Actually he’s right. For most Mexican immigrants, whether legal or illegal, the first loyalty is to the Race (La Raza). Ditto for the descendants of Mexican immigrants. All want fully-funded welfare services and a hefty tax appropriation. I wish this were not so, but this is how it is. Since they see themselves as one people, there is no psychological difference between “legal immigrant” and “illegal squatter” and “native-born American” of Rep. Raul Grijalva’s kind.

    • LHathaway

      Well, there is a riff between ‘Chicano’s’ Chicagoan’s (Mexicans born in the USA) and more recent arrivals. There used to be, anyway. The difference of opinion was mostly in the minds of recent immigrants who felt Chicano’s believed they were better than the newcomers. It’s likely part of some kind of race to the bottom.

  • ghettovalley

    I want to live in America, not Mexico. If these people were capable of maintaining a civilization comparable to ours they would have created one by now. But in each and every one of those filthy dangerous poor excuses for a country it’s the same story. Poverty. Disease. Drugs. Violence.

  • Paleoconn

    I agree. No distinction. All immigration should be stopped. Except that of Whites from Europe, South Africa and elsewhere.