Hungary Wants to Ban National Policy Institute Conference

Margit Feher, Wall Street Journal, September 29, 2014

Hungary wants to ban a conference, scheduled for later this week, of the U.S.-based National Policy Institute, which the Central European country’s government considers extremist and racist.

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban ordered Interior Minister Sandor Pinter on Sunday to use all legal means at his disposal to prevent the conference, scheduled for this weekend in Budapest.

“Ever since [it came into power in] 2010, this government has been the strongest bastion against any form of extremism in Hungary and also in Central Europe,” Zoltan Kovacs, Hungarian government spokesman, told The Wall Street Journal on Monday.

“We oppose this conference from every aspect,” Mr. Kovacs added.

The NPI said it is disappointed and puzzled by the Hungarian government’s action and that it will obey the laws of Hungary. Much about the event “might have been ‘lost in translation’ or, . . . [Hungary] is responding to untruthful messages sent by those who oppose the Congress as well as the very notion of traditional identity,” the NPI added.

“Though some might disagree with opinions that are voiced at our event, nothing about the conference violates Hungarian law,” it said.

The conference will be an opportunity to discuss culture, society, geopolitics, and the future of Europe, it added, insisting that the conference will take place.

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Hungary’s ministry of foreign affairs and trade said in a release that it’s “unacceptable that an extremist American racist origination should hold a conference with Russian radicals here in Hungary” and thus damage Hungary’s international reputation.

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The venue, Larus Conference Center, where the conference was originally to be held, said it had cancelled its contract with the organizers and will be closed Oct. 4. The ideology of the planned event “doesn’t meet [Larus’s] goal to ensure the civil liberties to the right to assembly for democratic and civil organizations and individuals,” Larus’s management said in a release.

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  • Mack0

    I assume next years conference will be held in Russia.

    • Long Live Dixie

      Not likely if Putin remains in power.

      • Jimmy Joseph

        Why not?

        Is Putin anti White?

        • Oil Can Harry

          Putin’s one of the few pro-white world leaders.

          • KevinPhillipsBong

            Google, “Putin, United Russia, etc – corrupt, criminal, anti-white regime” and click on the links, you’ll see the dozens of times he’s spoken out in favor of a multicultural, multiethnic Russia and against xenophobia, etc. Putin is pro-Russia, true, but he is NOT pro-white – not by a long shot.

          • Oil Can Harry

            It’s debatable. putin has worked hard to increase Russian birthrates and he’s increased immigration by ethnic Russians back into the country.
            He’s also tried to revive Christianity among his countrymen. I’ve also seen footage of his soldiers deporting Muslim illegal aliens.
            While Putin is far from perfect he’s miles ahead of slime like Tony Blair, Francois Hollande and the open borders EU crowd.

          • ShermanTMcCoy

            I don’t know how pro-white he is, but I’ve never had the impression that he is anti-white, and Obama (and really most Western “leaders”) certainly is (are).

            That said, under normal circumstances, I am certain that President Putin would be happy to have the conference, but during this current crisis, I’d imagine that he would be sensitive to the prevailing negative opinions of “the Far Right” and would likely want to avoid the controversy. Once the Russian areas of Ukraine from the East to Odessa to Tiraspol have been gathered back into the Rodina, or at least into separate federalized areas, I believe he would be more inclined to welcome us.

            But isn’t it ironic that the forces that ejected the lawfully elected president of Ukraine (corrupt as he was) were associated with David Duke? So who, then, is the “Far Right?” I suppose it was just a convenient tool to be used and then discarded by the real rulers of Ukraine, George Soros and his ilk.

  • LHathaway

    Please, Mr. Taylor, please, bring your ‘banned in Halifx’ speech (or a version of it) to Hungary. Perhaps some ‘thugs’ there will even help you draw attention and controversy to it, ensuring more of them hear what you have to say.

    • Ron Cheaters

      I’m from Halifax, and I’ve been following ever since. if you’re not ruffling any feathers – you’re not making your point. The point is to ruffle some feathers, wake the people up. It worked for me, I’m all for the truth, and those who dare to speak it.

      • LHathaway

        That was a great speech. If I remember right, the major newspapers in Canada were discussing it. How many actually read the speech due to the controversy?

        • Ron Cheaters

          It was all over the TV here.. CTV News. it was a big story. I had the inkling of race realism.. in the sense that I knew we were all different culturally.. but I’d never heard it make sense before.. then I learned about Detroit, then Liberia and so – on.. things that were always there but never blipped on my radar until I started coming here.. and Learning.. I love learning. so I stay.. I’m a lurker.. but thats just me. I’m always here.

        • Ron Cheaters

          In some sense even the papers were a little positive to JT. It certainly made the editorials worthwhile to read. Hands Down!

          • LHathaway

            Just a coincidence that he wrote such an incredible speech and the news media were all talking about the story. . . He’s never topped it. It wasn’t in the news, really here. He’s had a couple of really good articles since but I always find myself thinking, just shut up and give the Halifax speech again (or a version of it). It wasn’t a race realist speech. He hinted at race realism a couple of time in his speech (sadly) but I’m not sure his Banned in Halifax talk could be categorize as race realist.

          • Ron Cheaters

            They simply shut him down out of fear.. they weren’t prepared. and it showed.. the only thing about this incursion is that they’re probably still stinging from that Behring-Breivik incident a couple years ago. I’d be sensitie to that going into that wasps nest.

            But then, at the same time we here had that guy who burned a cross on the front lawn of some black going out with a white girl here in Lantz which is really, really close to where I am.. That shook up Canada a bit.. I’d give the guy a medal, but it was frowned upon coast to coast.

  • Kenneth Arrow

    Welcome to Europe gentlemen. Here people don’t know or care about the concept of free speech. Please consult Hungarian penal code and Council of Europe guidelines on hate speech.

    I wish you a pleasant stay!

  • Usually Much Calmer

    Oh no! An American organization and Russian people! Not here, not in Hungary. That’s not who we are.

    Does the ministry of foreign affairs appreciate the irony of making such a nationalistic argument for shunning the conference?

    • LHathaway

      They always have an excuse for shutting us up. There’s always a rationalization. Here in this country, the conservative position is given by the liberals. There have been entire TV shows dedicated to nothing but spoofing or making fun of conservatives, if not all of them being based on that, to one degree or another. Now we have FOX news at least, but perhaps predictably, there are shows that seem to be dedicated to nothing but debunking FOX news. It’s not enough to have every channel be an outlet of leftist ‘propaganda’ but you have to make a stink if even one channel does something different or fails to toe the line. I remember when Rush Limbaugh responded to his critics by saying, “I am equal time”.

  • DaveMed

    Jared Taylor is a better-mannered (and more intelligent, of course) person than every single anti-White and/or leftist I’ve ever known.

    That’s a fact.

    • newscomments70

      Jared controls his temper (something I have a challenge with), and never uses profanity and childish insults. He sticks with facts and statistics. He avoids tired ideology and propaganda. That is unheard of in leftist circles.

      • 1stworlder

        I only use profanity in Mexican/Spanish and I say it like it is something nice.

        • newscomments70

          chingada everything

      • Alexandra1973

        That’s why they fear him IMO.

        They paint realists as people who are completely nuts. But then you see people like Mr. Taylor who are calm and speak in facts. People are more likely to listen to someone who’s calm and factual rather than some raving maniac…and that’s why, I believe, lefties fear him. Your average Joe will think, “huh…this guy makes sense.”

        That’s what the lefties don’t want.

    • NoMosqueHere

      JT is a gentleman and a gentle man it seems to me. This decision by the Hungarian government is purely a ban on ideas and opinions.

    • Gary John 金白龍

      Except for the tiny number of super cunningly intelligent ‘you know who’.

    • Paleoconn

      Ditto Spencer and some other dissident right speakers. The establishment left fears the polished, well-spoken race realists. Check out Jared on Donohue. Phil tries to ridicule him but ends up looking the fool. The disrespectful audience members are just as bad. The left has no arguments. They only have ad hominems.

  • Mack0

    Situations like this are bound to arise. None of us joined this movement to become popular. I suppose this is our wandering in the desert period.

  • newscomments70

    “Hungary’s ministry of foreign affairs and trade said in a release that it’s “unacceptable that an extremist American racist origination should hold a conference with Russian radicals here in Hungary” and thus damage Hungary’s international reputation.” They are trying desperately to brown nose the EU. The truth and opposition must be censored.

    • ShermanTMcCoy

      That is odd, isn’t it? As far as I knew, there was no Russian participation in this conference (or am I mistaken?) So that was an infantile attempt to link the attendees with those “nasty Russians.” If I were younger and had no family, I know on whose side I would be fighting in “New-Russia.”

      • curri

        Aleksandr Dugin was scheduled as a speaker. There is a lot of hysteria about him emanating from the usual suspects.

        • ShermanTMcCoy

          Thanks.

  • dd121

    Are they afraid the truth might burn a hole somewhere?

    • Mack0

      It’s the same old story. The cry baby left who whine endlessly about tolerance and free speech try to ban any ideas they don’t agree with. Wash, rinse and repeat.

  • Jaggers

    Oh my god, what a bunch of little girls there are in the Hungarian government.

  • HJ11

    Whites need to come out of the closet–as Whites. But, we need to frame things in terms of our human rights to be who and what we were born to be.

    We awakened Whites may want to start thinking of ourselves as a cohesive subculture in the White population and refuse to be bullied and refuse to let the haters of Whites and Whiteness marginalize us or send us to the back of the bus because of their prejudices.

  • Franklin_Ryckaert

    These people always react in the same irrational way : caring about your future as a people is “extremist” and “racist” and that of course has to be banned in the name of “civil liberties and democracy”, no less. So only ethnic suicides are allowed free speech, but ethnic preservationists are not. This of course only applies to Whites. If the Dalai Lama would want to hold a conference in Hungary about the survival of the Tibetan people he would be allowed to do so. This insane injustice has to stop.

    • Mack0

      Its cultural marxism. Western white male culture is the face of the bourgeoisie and must be confronted whenever it rears its ugly head. The rules that apply to the proletariat, embodied by women and minorities don’t apply to white males.

  • NorthernWind

    What a disgrace. It just goes to show how scared and cowardly those in power are. They cannot tolerate our ideas even being discussed.

  • IstvanIN

    The PM: “In 1989, Orbán received a scholarship from the Soros Foundation and spent four months in Oxford, England,” Nuff said?

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      Anyone associated with destructive globalist George Soros is indeed highly suspect.

  • Leon NJ

    But I’m sure they would allow Muslims to protest with signs that call for the death of everyone but muslims….like they do in the streets of London.

    • Franklin_Ryckaert

      Noel Ignatiev holding a conference about the desirability of “abolishing the White race” would be also highly welcome.

  • Periapsis

    This proves who really rules Hungary, and it’s not ethnic white Hungarians. I think we should circumvent and subvert these anti-white laws internationally. We have a right to discuss matters that pertain to our future, the Tribe and governments be damned.

    • Jimmy Joseph

      Not saying this is untrue, just see no evidence for it.

      Besides some wild assertion, please give us evidence for this statement.

      • IstvanIN

        Israel has flown spy planes over Budapest. There was also an Israel MP who bragged that the Jews would soon own Hungary.

        And never forget that Sword of Damocles: the Sampson Option.

        • Jimmy Joseph

          I have read that stuff.

          Besides one off color statement, I see no evidence of some “conspiracy”.

          Jews own a lot of crap. If they get it illegally, they should be prosecuted.

          If they do it fairly, then you have to give them credit.

          Moron White people have made Jews like Zuckerberg and Sheldon Adelson really rich. If they didn’t use Facebook (particularly) women or throw their money away in Vegas, how would they have gotten so rich?

          Why buy Facebook or waste money at casinos?

          • Periapsis

            If you refer to garbage such as Facebook, which is really an intelligence gathering operation, and casinos, which are merely just another sort of usury, I agree with you there. Only a moron indeed has anything to do with either one. I do not, I see both for what they are. However he Sampson Option IS no joke, they mean it and they have threatened nuclear attack against US more than once in their own press. How often do you hear about our president saying he could launch nuclear missiles at anyone, in any direction at any time? Never, but the Israeli government has in the Daily Haaretz newspaper.

          • Jimmy Joseph

            There has to be more support for Facebook by NSA, CIA, etc. There is no way it got as big as it did so quickly.

            However, I blame Whites who use Facebook and waste their monies at casinos as well.

            They should know better.

            Sampson option basically says they will take everyone out if they are being killed. It appears defensive rather than offensive.

      • Periapsis

        Hungary is a member of the E.U. and therefore whites acting as a group in their own legitimate interests is legally defined as “hate.” That alone is very likely why they are trying to prevent this conference.

        • Jimmy Joseph

          Do you have links to the groups that were Jewish that supported this?

          There appears to be many non Jewish Whites that support banning these types of meetings as well.

          I don’t have any evidence that is largely Jewish in origin without subsequent non Jewish support.

          I know American politics very well. There are Jewish groups such as the ADL, SPLC, etc that support open borders.

          However, there is also the Catholic Church, Protestant Churches, non Jewish White Billionaires, etc that also support illegal immigration.

          All of these groups are guilty of supporting illegal immigration. The focus on the Jews exclusively makes the White nationalist movement look bad. Also threats about “slaughtering” Jews doesn’t help.

          Also, there are Jews like Michael Savage that are more strongly opposed to illegal immigration than David Duke.

  • So much for Hungary being a bastion of traditionalist non-Western non-American non-PC thinking. Looks like some of our own leaders, not JT, got a little too caught up in wishful thinking. Said without satisfaction.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    This conference sounds like it’s going to be good (assuming it doesn’t get shut down). VDare has been advertising for it too, and you can read some more about it on their site. If I could afford round-trip airfare to Hungary, I’d go.

    Good luck to everyone who is going! I hope the conference manages to go on without interruption.

  • WR_the_realist

    Censorship — it’s not just for the United States anymore.

  • FozzieT

    Not too sure about this but don’t Hungarians (Huns) view themselves as uniquely non-Caucasians among Europeans? I thought they had some sort of pride about being related to Asians…
    And I second the comments about Jared Taylor being an eminent gentleman we all should emulate.

  • RHG

    I am guessing Mo Dees and the flunkies from his race hustle outfit had something to do with this

  • kjh64

    I think he meant pro-White in Russia and not working against Whites in Russia as opposed to other White nations whose leaders are against the Whites in their countries. Yes, of course most Europeans and Americans and people everywhere care for their own nationality and American are very well aware of this. Europeans don’t understand Americans either. However, what happens in one part of the world can affect others. If, for example, if large parts of Western Europe ever became majority Muslim, that would very much affect the USA or if the USA becomes “Mexico Norte”, the same, it would affect others.

  • Like all left wing totalitarians, these shortsighted fools failed to learn from the many occasions in human history when attempts by the ruling elites to quash the free exchange of ideas only drove those ideas further and further into the mainstream. When the people are squirming under your boot, it’s terribly imprudent to give them common cause, and a common identity, with which to rebel against you–even if only intellectually, so far…

    Notice the total lack of self-awareness in this risibly Orwellian statement: The ideology of the planned event “doesn’t meet [Larus’s] goal to ensure the civil liberties to the right to assembly for democratic and civil organizations and individuals,” Larus’s management said in a release.

    Translation: Civil liberties for me but not for thee, comrade citizen.

    Hungary’s government may have been hijacked by the same globalist anti-White aliens as our Western countries, but the people are increasingly awake and aware, as evidenced by the popularity of Jobbik. How unwise of their rulers to even acknowledge the NPI at all! But then, no one ever lost money betting on communist stupidity.

  • Chris Granzow XI

    This is exactly what pro-white Hungarians have been warning us about Orban’s regime. He adopts the slogans and societal concerns of Jobbik (i.e. less immigration, pro-ethnic identity and nation-state) not so much because that’s what he truly believes and stands for, but because he wants to marginalize Jobbik and take their votes. I hope the Hungarian voters will start to see through his b.s.

    • curri

      A Jobbik MEP bailed out of the conference. From the WSJ article on this subject:

      The original list of speakers also included Marton Gyongyosi, a prominent member of the Hungarian far-right Jobbik party, which got more than 20% of the vote in general elections earlier this year and is the third-largest party in the Hungarian Parliament.

      By Monday, Mr. Gyongyosi’s name had disappeared from the list of scheduled speakers.

      “The conference date clashes with several election campaign events,” Mr. Gyongyosi said, referring to municipal elections Oct. 12. “Furthermore, I can hardly sympathize with the views of some of the speakers—namely those of the U.S. racists; I don’t share their ideologies at all.”

      • Chris Granzow XI

        Wow, I didn’t see that. If this is how these people really feel, then how are they “far-right” at all? I don’t get it. One of the main complaints of Jobbik supporters (at least from what I’ve heard) is that there are too many non-white foreigners coming to study in Hungary and how Orban had said he would lower it but didn’t. It seems to me like Gyongyosi is at odds with his own supporters.

  • Gary John 金白龍

    But if a group of radical leftists came to Hungary blurting out endless streams of profanities and attacking White culture, the government would sponsor them.

    Whites are sick. Very, very sick.

  • Baxter Thebigfatcat

    Well stated. European Russia is overwhelmingly white. You don’t have the “diversity” you see in the US and parts of western Europe. Hence you don’t have racial tension. In the absence of racial tension you have nationalism. Just look at Yugoslavia; the various groups killed each other because of their respective nationalities. Everyone is the same race. Other than Gypsies, there are is “no diversity” in Serbia, Montenegro, Moldova, Croatia, Hungary, Ukraine and other parts of central Europe. No one cares about the racial problems that exist in Western Europe and the US. Matter of fact, people in these countries are quick to point out how they are not racists – easy to do when you live in a country with virtually one race. But when it comes to a Croat hating a Serb or a Serb hating a Croat – that almost a national past time.

  • newscomments70

    I always wonder when the US government will “crack down” on Amren and similar. Eric Holder is gone, but he will be replaced by some communist, black power type. If the Republicans ever win again, I can even see them attacking AMREN as well. The seem to be bending over backwards to impress us with “fighting racism” and being “inclusive”. I remember when Jared Taylor brought racial issues to a Republican debate. The Barney Frank type Republicans were stepping over each other to prove how inclusive they were. They looked like eager school children, raising their hands, “Yes, yes, I know the answer! Pick me!”. Both parties want to crush us.

  • Garrett Brown

    There is a strong possibility that in their next election the Jobbik party will be the second largest political party in Hungary. Are they going to ban them as well? You can only suppress the truth for so long.

  • newscomments70

    That is the impression I have of Russia. I sometimes watch patriotic Russian videos on youtube. They often show celebrities singing the national anthem, good-looking, blond haired people, etc. It is impressive, and one assumes that we could forge solidtarity and friendship with these people…until you read the comments. Many Russians virulently hate the US and Western Europe. Many are still communists, as well. The boards are filled with profanities and threats. They don’t appear to want any type of solidarity with us. There are some nice Russians, but very few appear to be white nationalist or similar.

  • newscomments70

    I agree. And from what I read on the NPD website (German nationalists), it is the same. They don’t care much for refugees from Eastern Europe, and they are anti-American. White nationalists in the US assume, “these are our comrades, they’re on our side”. They are not. They have a different way of thinking.

  • newscomments70

    I hear you, but I have encountered scores of arrogant Europeans who fancy themselves as experts in US politics and social problems. They actually do tell us what to do. Bono is the most famous example of this. Many petty examples can be found in comments sections of various news stories. Their favorite topic is how “racist” we are. I could go on for hours. I remember hearing U2 songs when I was school age. I wondered why he had to drone on about MLK…something he has nothing to do with. Why can’t he sing about his own country?

  • newscomments70

    I know he stopped westerners/foreigners from adopting Russian babies. Part of the reason for this is that he wanted to stop the depopulation of his country; also, he detested the ideas of gays adopting Russian children. I don’t blame him, but Russian children would be better off in normal western households than languising in Russian orphanages. If Putin cared so much about Russian children, he should do something to help the thousands of homeless children living in the streets of Russian cities.

  • newscomments70

    I know of some British and American couples that adopted children from Eastern European orphanages(Ukraine, Russia, and Romania). The kids, some are grown by now, are doing exceptionally well. The orphanages were in horrible condition. If they stayed in those orphanages, they would probably be dead.

    • Periapsis

      My father saved two Ukrainian kids from certain death who were in a Ukrainian orphanage. One unfortunately will be institutionalized for the rest of her life, her brother is now working on a doctoral degree in history. He’s going to be a university professor.

  • newscomments70

    How happy will they be when they have sharia zones and muslim pedophile rape gangs as they do in Western Europe? Liberals keep screaming “nazi!” but fail to address the 2000% increase in crime in Western Europe since mass immigration. You generalize when you say, “then Hungarian people don’t want this”. About 1/3 of Hungarians vote for Jobbik. Most want to keep Hungary Hungarian. And how vividly do Hungarians remember WWII? Such people are approaching 90 to 100 years old. And was communism any better? The communists imprisoned and murdered more innocent people than nazis. The nazis typically left indigenous Hungarians alone. The communists brutally subjugated, tortured and murdered thousands of middle class Hungarians (bourgeois, as they called them). Sane Europeans don’t want Islamification and Africanization. That has nothing to do with the “horrifying nazis”. Nazis, like ancient Romans, don’t exist anymore.

  • newscomments70

    In France, the National Front is a ahead in the Presidential polls. In Austria and Hungary, the nationalist parties are approaching 30% of the vote. The NPD in Germany, supposedly defunct and irrelevant, just sent their first MEP to European parliment. Nationalist parties keep surging in Europe. We don’t have that in the US, but the militia movement has grown over 1000% since Obama was elected. That’s not a fantasy. We don’t want your liberal social experiments anymore. White liberals will face the wrath of patriots or gangs of feral third worlders. Western liberalism must be sent to the dustbin of history, where it belongs. Liberalism encompasses weakness, tyranny, rape and white genocide. Liberalism accelerates black on white rape, including child rape. Here is some advice for you: don’t f— with someone’s children. Eventually this will blow up in your face. No one wants you anymore….even the minority groups that you brown nose.

  • newscomments70

    You are wrong. They were kept in cage like cribs and not allowed to exercise. They had no muscle tone and movement. They were basically paralyzed until they were brought to the western world, where they were given physical therapy. They were also suffering malnutrition. The workers at the orphanage were stealing the food. It was disgusting, like some torture chamber from the middle ages. It was like this in romania, Ukraine, and Russia…probably other countries as well. Eastern Europe is mostly third world.

  • newscomments70

    The boys are often forced into homosexual prostitution…so much for Putin saving them from gay adoption.