To Make Elite Schools ‘Fair,’ City Will Punish Poor Asians

Dennis Saffran, New York Post, July 19, 2014

In 2004, 7-year-old Ting Shi arrived in New York from China, speaking almost no English. For two years, he shared a bedroom in a Chinatown apartment with his grandparents–a cook and a factory worker–and a young cousin, while his parents put in 12-hour days at a small laundromat they had purchased on the Upper East Side.

Ting mastered English and eventually set his sights on getting into Stuyvesant High School, the crown jewel of New York City’s eight “specialized high schools.”

When he was in sixth grade, he took the subway downtown from his parents’ small apartment to the bustling high school to pick up prep books for its eighth-grade entrance exam. He prepared for the test over the next two years, working through the prep books and taking classes at one of the city’s free tutoring programs. His acceptance into Stuyvesant prompted a day of celebration at the laundromat–an immigrant family’s dream beginning to come true.

Ting, now a 17-year-old senior starting at NYU in the fall, says of his parents, who never went to college: “They came here for the next generation.”

The plot against merit

New York’s specialized high schools, including Stuyvesant and the equally storied Bronx High School of Science, along with Brooklyn Technical High School and five smaller schools, have produced 14 Nobel laureates–more than most countries.

For more than 70 years, admission to these schools has been based upon a competitive examination of math, verbal and logical reasoning skills. In 1971, the state legislature, heading off city efforts to scrap the merit selection test as culturally biased against minorities, reaffirmed that admission to the schools be based on the competitive exam.

But now, troubled by declining black and Hispanic enrollment at the schools, opponents of the exam have resurfaced. The NAACP Legal Defense Fund has filed a civil-rights complaint challenging the admissions process. A bill in Albany to eliminate the test requirement has garnered the support of Sheldon Silver, the powerful Assembly speaker.

And new Mayor Bill de Blasio, whose son, Dante, attends Brooklyn Tech, has called for changing the admissions criteria. The mayor argues that relying solely on the test creates a “rich-get-richer” dynamic that benefits the wealthy, who can afford expensive test preparation.

As Ting’s story illustrates, however, the reality is just the opposite. It’s not affluent whites, but rather the city’s burgeoning population of Asian-American immigrants–a group that, despite its successes, remains disproportionately poor and working-class–whose children have aced the exam in overwhelming numbers.

And, ironically, the more “holistic” and subjective admissions criteria that de Blasio and the NAACP favor would be much more likely to benefit children of the city’s professional elite than African-American and Latino applicants–while penalizing lower-middle-class Asian-American kids like Ting. The result would not be a specialized high school student body that “looks like New York,” but rather one that looks more like Bill de Blasio’s upscale Park Slope neighborhood in Brooklyn.

Asian-American success

There is no dispute that black and Latino enrollment at the specialized schools, while always low, has steadily declined since the 1970s.

Blacks constituted 13 percent of the student body at Stuyvesant in 1979, 5 percent in 1994 and just 1 percent the last few years, while Hispanics dropped from a high of 4 percent to 2 percent today.

Similarly, at Bronx Science, black enrollment has fallen from 12 percent in 1994 to 3 percent currently and Hispanic enrollment has leveled off, from about 10 percent to 6 percent. The figures are even more striking at the less selective Brooklyn Tech, where blacks made up 37 percent of the student body in 1994 but only 8 percent today, while Hispanic numbers plunged from about 15 percent to 8 percent.

These declining minority numbers have not been matched by a corresponding increase in whites, however. In fact, white enrollment at Stuyvesant, Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech has plummeted as well, dropping from 79 percent, 81 percent and 77 percent, respectively, in 1971 to just 22 percent, 23 percent and 20 percent today.

Rather, it is New York City’s fastest-growing racial minority group, Asian-Americans, who have come to dominate these schools. Asians, while always a presence in New York, didn’t begin arriving in the city in large numbers until immigration restrictions were lifted with passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, championed by Sen. Edward Kennedy.

Since then, their proportion of the city’s population has increased from less than 1 percent to about 13 percent, and their share of the specialized school population has skyrocketed. Asian students constituted 6 percent of the enrollment at Stuyvesant in 1970 and 50 percent in 1994; they make up an incredible 73 percent of the student body this year.

The story is similar at Bronx Science, where the Asian population has exploded from 5 percent in 1970 to 41 percent in 1994 to 62 percent today, and at Brooklyn Tech, where their presence increased from 6 percent to 33 percent to 61 percent.

The ‘rich’ fallacy

Asians in New York are overwhelmingly first- and second-generation; some three-quarters of the students at Stuyvesant are immigrants or the children of immigrants.

They’re hardly affluent, notwithstanding de Blasio’s implication that families who get their kids into the specialized schools are “rich.”

True, Asians nationally have the highest median income of any racial group, including whites–and in New York City, their median household income ranks second to that of whites and well ahead of blacks and Hispanics.

But Asians also have the highest poverty rate of any racial group in New York, with 29 percent living below the poverty level, compared with 26 percent of Hispanics, 23 percent of blacks and 14 percent of whites. Poor Asians lag far behind whites and are barely ahead of blacks and Latinos. Thus, the income spectrum among Asians in New York ranges from a surprisingly large number in poverty, through a hardworking lower middle class, and on to a more affluent upper middle class.

It might seem reasonable to assume–as de Blasio and others apparently do–that the Asian kids at the specialized schools come largely from families at the top of this pyramid. But this isn’t the case.

Half the students at the specialized high schools qualify for free or subsidized school lunches, including 47 percent at Stuyvesant and 48 percent at Bronx Science–figures that have increased correspondingly with Asians’ rising numbers at these schools. {snip}

Think about that: Two public high schools that, along with half their students, are officially classified as poor by the federal government rival the most exclusive prep schools in the world.

The poor students get into such schools through hard work and sacrifice–both their own and that of their parents. The students typically attend local tutoring programs, which proliferate in Asian neighborhoods, starting the summer after sixth grade and for several days a week, including weekends, during the school year prior to the test. The costs are burdensome for poor and working families, but it’s a matter of priorities.

A liberal nightmare

All this once would have been the stuff of liberal dreams: A racial minority group historically victimized by discrimination begins coming to America in greater numbers because of an immigration reform sponsored by Ted Kennedy. {snip}

To modern “progressive” elites, though, the story is intolerable, starting with the hard work. These liberal elites seem particularly troubled by the Asian-American work ethic and the difficult questions that it raises about the role of culture in group success.

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In September 2012, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund filed a complaint with the US Department of Education, which dispenses federal educational funding to the city, charging that use of the SHSAT [Specialized High School Admissions Test] as the sole basis for admission violates Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which prohibits racial discrimination by federal aid recipients.

The complaint does not allege that the exam intentionally discriminates against black and Hispanic students. Instead, citing statistics regarding declining black and Latino enrollment and SHSAT pass rates, the LDF bases its argument entirely on the theory of “disparate impact”–that is, that discrimination should be inferred merely from racial differences in test scores.

In the complaint and in a subsequent report released last fall to coincide with de Blasio’s election, the LDF argues for replacement of the SHSAT with a “holistic” admissions process–one that would consider “multiple measures” of academic potential, “both quantitative and qualitative,” including not only grades but also such subjective indicators as interviews, recommendations, “portfolio assessments,” “proven leadership skills” and “commitment to community service.”

Other factors could include applicants’ “backgrounds and experiences” and the “demographic profile” of their schools and neighborhoods. To the extent that a test would be allowed at all, it would merely “supplement” these other criteria. The LDF also called for guaranteed admission for valedictorians and salutatorians, and perhaps other top students, at each public middle school program–a proposal that sounds modest but would actually require a set-aside of at least 1,000 of the 3,800 seats in each class.

Subjective backfire

De Blasio suggested, for example, that a student’s extracurricular activities should be one of the selection factors. But as a past president of the Stuyvesant Parents Association noted, “the kids that have the best résumés in seventh and eighth grades have money.”

A Chinese student like Ting Shi who has to help out in his parents’ laundromat is not going on “service” trips to Nicaragua with the children in de Blasio’s affluent Park Slope neighborhood. The LDF’s suggested admissions criteria–student portfolios, leadership skills and community service–are all subject to privileged parents’ ability to buy their children the indicia of impressiveness.

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Critics of the SHSAT will reply that something must be done about declining black and Hispanic enrollment at the specialized high schools. The answer, however, can never be to lower objective standards.

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  • Anglokraut

    Aww, now Asians get to feel our pain. Question is, will they just take it, or will they fight back?

    • Ed

      Judging by a protest in NYC a few weeks ago that featured Asian residents protesting a homeless shelter telling the homeless to get a job, I’d say yes. The only people bound by PC are Whites. Most of the world, even Africans, don’t subscribe to it.

    • Raymond Kidwell

      I have seen Asian lawyer associations suing against affirmitive action. Goyishe whites seem to be the only weak push overs that allow themselves to be abused (and even start abusing their own people themselves).

    • Alucard_the_last

      The did at Berkeley. They were being denied entrance even though their grades were much higher than Hispanics and -of course, blacks. They sued and won.

      • MikeofAges

        The University of California system is a culturally disturbed entity, in ways which go beyond any issue of the conflict between merit and outreach. Or racial preference. Or anything else you can possibly imagine. The California Master Plan for Higher Education is more than 50 years old now. It made sense when it was adopted, when California was overwhelmingly white and almost all of the students were children of the World War II generation. It began to fail in the 1970s, but never has been seriously revamped, not even tweaked that much.

        The way it is now, young people and even re-entry adults spend years wandering through the community college system, never make it into four year college, and eventually give up often without even earning an associate degree.

        Other states do it better. Maligned Texas has the University of Texas system and the Texas A&M system. Both have flagship institutions and research university in their folds. Wisconsin decided not to have two separate systems. All public university graduates get University of Wisconsin degrees.

  • MekongDelta69

    Because I went to Stuy, every time this subject comes up, it’s just another reminder (i.e. poke in the eye) of how far we’ve fallen. I feel like a broken record saying the same thing over and over and over.

    It’s just like Spec Ops in one way (but obviously not in a life or death way – as if I really needed to state that):

    If you pass the test(s) – You are in.
    If you don’t – You are out.

    Second place = First loser…

    /EOM

    • TruthBeTold

      No, smart schools make you smart. That’s why blacks aren’t smart. They’re not allowed to attend smart schools!

    • LHathaway

      I’m sorry. Your post didn’t even make sense to me. Take a ‘Stuy’ course in humility and learn to express yourself in ways others can understand?

    • dukem1

      Kaiser Wilhelm should open a few “hip-hop” high schools.
      The young, dusky youth could rap,,,and dance,,,and spray paint stuff…
      Things they are inclined towards.
      Leave the readin’ writin’ and ‘rithmatickan’ to the honkies and slants…
      A win-win!!!
      They could grow up to be president!!!

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        We really shouldn’t use “Kaiser Wilhelm” to refer to the NYC POS mayor: it’s an insult to the memory of the real Kaiser and King of Prussia.

    • propagandaoftruth

      Critics of the SHSAT will reply that something must be done about declining black and Hispanic enrollment at the specialized high schools. The answer, however, can never be to lower objective standards.
      ——————-
      The answer, however, is always to lower “objective” standards.

      What is this “objective”? It sounds alien, or old fashioned…

      • Whitetrashgang

        It makes you wonder, do these people know how pathetic it makes them look?

        • propagandaoftruth

          Reminds my of bad ray-gun gothic sci fi.

          What is this Earth concept, “objective”? On our world Libtardia, we may once have had such a thing, but it must have been racist.

    • Nancy

      Mekong, I’m continually impressed by you with every post I read.

  • Asians, while always a presence in New York, didn’t begin arriving in the city in large numbers until immigration restrictions were lifted with passage of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, championed by Sen. Edward Kennedy.

    Who was one of several advocates of that legislation who crossed their hearts and hoped to have died that the legislation would have done no such thing.

    The poor students get into such schools through hard work and sacrifice–both their own and that of their parents. The students typically attend local tutoring programs, which proliferate in Asian neighborhoods, starting the summer after sixth grade and for several days a week, including weekends, during the school year prior to the test. The costs are burdensome for poor and working families, but it’s a matter of priorities.

    And I bet a fair measure of cheating and cramming on the side.

    Holistic admissions process

    Which means affirmative action.

    de Blasio’s affluent Park Slope neighborhood

    I thought that oil driller was man of the people.

    ***

    Now, thinking things through and reading between the lines, I think all this is a disguised hit on the part of rich whites weaponizing blacks and Hispanics and their race lobbies in order to clear out less-than-rich Asians so that the kids of rich whites can have more slots.

    • dukem1

      This “holistic” stuff is affirmative action on steroids.

      • Jesse_from_Sweden

        No, not affirmative action exactly.

        What it is, is an end to objective factual requirements.
        Because there is a problem with things that are objective and factual, namely that it’s easy to measure them and easy for anyone to see who would make it and who wouldn’t.

        If you instead change to a “holistic” requirement, that is all based on subjectivity, things get muddied up and officials in charge can admit whoever they want based on whatever they want. They can fill up the racial slots so it matches a quota they set, But they can also make sure that the white slots go to their friends and political cronies.
        This isn’t so much about screwing over whites and asians as it is about screwing over white and asian working-class and middle-class in favor of the influential upper class and their minority pets.

  • Luca

    Where to begin?

    First of all, liberal Democrats do not want an educated, free thinking, minority class who succeed in America because they need a fresh supply of victims to promise gifts to.

    Secondly, I hope this is a wake up call to Asians to make them realize that Liberal politicians are not their friends and will dump them at he first opportunity for the new up and coming minority, the Hispanics.

    Thirdly, notice how liberals automatically pull out the magical all-purpose discrimination card, which generally needs no justification. Does anyone question why certain enrollments have dropped? If blacks and hispanics could pass this test 20 years ago, why can’t they do this now?

    I’ll stop there because there is no end to this lunacy.

    • Truthseeker

      It seems to me that many younger Asians, the ones who receive an American education, become radicalized against Whites at some point, because the standard Cultural Marxist line is that anyone who’s White benefits at the expense of anyone who isn’t. In some cases they become no different than the White liberals who believe that diversity is inherently good and adopt self-hating attitudes about how “privileged” they are because those poor Blacks and Hispanics just can’t succeed at the same levels as Whites and Asians, therefore indicating how “oppressed” those groups are.

      While I certainly don’t want this country to be taken over by Asians, like you, I would love to see Asians foil the plans of the Left. My only hope is that along with their high IQ’s they have the intellectual honesty to be race realists and not Marxist parrots.

      • ATBOTL

        The vast majority of Asians in America are anti-white now. Real assimilated Asian Americans, with deep roots in the US, are only a small minority of the Asian present here at this point. Most Asians are post 1992 immigrants and their children. These people are not Americans.

        • Virtually none of them are Japanese.

          • WhiteGuyInJapan

            Because virtually all Japanese prefer to live in Japan.

          • citizenrich

            Because Japan is smart and doesn’t accept diversity which they claim equals pervisity.

        • ElComadreja

          They’ve made their bed by siding with the blacks and “Hispanics” against us. Let them lay in it.

          • Not all of them do. One of my Japanese co-workers in 1991-1995 was open about the people he called n-words and “Low-Riders”. He was Japanese-Japanese and not some liberal US Asian Democrap suck-up. I taught Masamichi and his wife how to shoot.

      • Jesse_from_Sweden

        Universities are PC-marxist indoctrination camps.
        Whites are indoctrinated to hate whites. As are asians, hispanics, blacks and everyone else. To hate whites and to blame whites for everything that is wrong. It’s a twist on Rousseaus theory of man being inherently good and it is civilization that corrupts him.

        Whites tend to resist this a little more than everyone else, for natural reasons since it’s not all that fun to hate oneself as it is to hate someone else.
        Everyone else will gladly blame whites for anything bad that happens to them or “their people” though, since that relieves them of any responsibility for their own situation.

        Asians are as susceptible to this as other minorities.
        They do change a bit when they notice that they are on the losing end of affirmative action though, when they figure out that all this rhetoric is about dividing the spoils more than anything else and since they are doing as good and sometimes even better than whites, that means they will lose even more than whites when it comes to “equality”.

      • WhiteGuyInJapan

        Amy “Tiger Mom” Chua shows some race realism in her books. She says it is 100% cultural, but anyone who documents and explains inequalities with cheap excuses is worth a read.

      • HE2

        Setting aside IQs, accomplishments, et al: nearly all I meet, and I meet a lot of them, first, second, third generation, Southern or Northern Asian immigrants alike, are anti-White, liberal, and loyal to their root country.
        They may appear superficially assimilated here because of their conformist wish to smilingly appear “in the game,” but scratch the surface and you will find a loyal nationalist Chinese, Indian, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Viet, etc. whose interests in America are shallow, usually based on monetary gain.
        They are opportunists who do not belong in this country.

    • AS Murray & Hernstein pointed out in their infamous & soon to be black listed book: “The Bell Curve:…..”, generations of entitlements have caused selective increased breeding for lower IQ among certain populations. Namely blacks. Thus the “average” black will now have a lower IQ than the ones of 50 years ago.

      However this should not be the whole difference. I’d guess that certain groups [blacks] in particular are placing their whole hopes upon becoming Aspiring Rap Artists, or Pro Sports Professionals. These professions earn perhaps 1000x the annual salary of a scientist. However when they don’t make that .001% who become Pro Athletes, they have no employable skills.

      Also due to our wise use of H1B visas for Indian/ Chinese scientists, the science & engineering professions are on the skids salary-wise. Billable hours for consulting chemical engineers are in the $30 – $50/hr range. Having 2 scientific degrees and a [IMO] super bright little one who is avidly interested in the sciences, I eventually will have to counsel him, when he gets older, that there is no future in science but to pursue a Law Degree. This is, IMO, why most native born Americans are avoiding science careers.

      • ElComadreja

        The blacks in Africa have even lower IQs than American ones.

        • benvad

          Is that even possible?

      • benvad

        Become an accountant they’re always needed in good times and bad times.

        • Really?

          • benvad

            If like to make a living wage and not struggle, then yeah becoming a certified accountant is the way to go.

          • My undergraduate degree is in accounting, and yet I have not had one permanent full time accounting position in my life, and have not been able to get one. As it is, I’m in public relations and lobbying now, and so far so good on that, so I think I never will.

            The big hangup? Those good ole H-1Bs. They’ve done to accounting what they’ve done to CSIT.

          • benvad

            Get your certification as a CPA, CMA. Having a Bachelor’s in Accounting doesn’t make you an accountant.

            Like graduating Law school without passing the Bar exam your just like a paralegal without work experience.

            If you really wanted to you can get certification and open up your own accounting shop, like my friend did. He completed his Bachelor’s ONLINE after he got his CPA.

            It can be done

    • APaige

      The summary of the story in a sentence is-even though Asians have the highest percentage of poverty in New York then still can ace exams and gain entrance into elite public high schools. But the question the story WANTS to ask is “Why do Blacks and Hispanics fail?”
      If the ‘problem’ is not White racism, cultural discrimination, or poverty… then what?

  • Booger Boo

    The problem is the Asians are acting white, rather than like ghetto trash.

  • D.B. Cooper

    What you yankee morons do in your schools is your own business, especially because THIS is what you wanted, right? Here’s your mayor. Be proud!

    • Rhialto

      My image manipulating software and vision are weak, but it seems that part of His honor’s daughter’s right mammary organ is exposed. I hope I’m wrong.

      • Garrett Brown

        Oh dear.

      • Anglokraut

        I believe the technical term is “sideboob”.

        The more you know…

      • Bossman

        She looks like a sexy mulata.

        • antiquesunlight

          If that’s what a sexy “mulata” looks like, I’d hate to see an ugly one.

      • captainc

        don’t worry, they all look the same.

    • Blue states will fail

    • dd121

      They knew they were electing a communist mayor in New York, and by God they got a communist Mayor in New York.

    • Ed

      Northern progressives must be really proud of themselves. Yikes,

    • MBlanc46

      That makes me want to lose my dinner.

    • PvtCharlieSlate

      Looks like Eric Holder on the far right …

      • antiquesunlight

        The one in the bra, right?

        • HE2

          Yep, the right nipple is peeking through the bra of her ho inspired outfit.

    • ElComadreja

      The white Dinkins.

  • TruthBeTold

    Blacks in Buffalo are making a stink about their kids inability to score high enough to get into high-performance schools.

    U.S. Department of Education to probe racial bias in Buffalo Public Schools admissions

    www buffalonews com/city-region/buffalo-public-schools/us-department-of-education-to-probe-racial-bias-in-buffalo-public-schools-admissions-20140313

    • jim b

      You know….every time I hear a story like this (every day…) I think about how people pass most things off as conspiracy theories coming from conspiracy nuts. Yet, the same gang wants us to believe in this nonsense….a grand conspiracy. Just like the racist judicial system encompassing every cop, judge, juror, and lawyer in the country in cahoots to throw innocent black yoofs in prison. What really galls me that a good portion of the country doesn’t question this bunk.

    • ElComadreja

      Of course their kids are dumb. They’re black.

  • dd121

    I don’t know why liberals think that promoting the least qualified is going to produce the best outcomes. I’m sure they know what’s going to happen but look how they lock-up whole blocks of votes.

  • JackKrak

    The black version of the intro to this article –

    In 2004, 7-year-old DerQuavious Jackson arrived in New York from Georgia, speaking
    almost no English. For two years, he shared a bedroom in a Brooklyn
    apartment with his four half-siblings and various adult males who used the address for their parole officers while his mother spent 12 hours a day at the bingo hall and a local nail salon.

    Jackson still struggles with English and eventually set his sights on getting into the special ed program of his local high school, which entitles him to an extra twenty minutes on the playground and “Pizza Day” on Fridays at the cafeteria.

    When he was in sixth grade for the third time, he took the subway downtown from his section 8 apartment to the crumbling high school to pick up “packages” for his neighbor L’Kwantay. He saved up enough over
    the next two years to keep current with all the new Air Jordan releases. His acquittal on armed robbery charges prompted a day of celebration at the local barber shop – a disadvantaged youth from the neighborhood had survived his first encounter with a racist justice system out to get him.

    Jackson, now a 17-year-old freshman starting a new drug corner in the fall, says of
    his parents, who never went to high school : “Huh?”

    • TruthBeTold

      It’s funny because it’s true.

      • dukem1

        Could be a Movie of the Week,,,Or an Afternoon Special!

      • MikeofAges

        And if it is, it’s not always that bad, it shows that a new way of dealing with people is needed. Traditionally, males youths went into apprenticeship at an early age. This put them under the control of adult men who knew how to manage them, expected of them that they be functional in the workplace, and could provide them with a model of something they could reasonably hope to become.

        In the system we have, for many, no hope for them. Or us.

    • CalMark

      lol. Very creative.

    • gemjunior

      Dat sho’ is da troof. I sho is laffin’ bout dat brutha DerQuavious.

  • TheAntidote

    The Chinese and Indians who get into these schools will actually be able to do the work and learn. They will go on to become electrical or chemical engineers, astrophysicists or molecular biologists. The Negroes and spics who graduate will become magical negro-show biz personalities like De Grass Tyson.

    • Alucard_the_last

      In 100% of my higher mathematics classes, there wasn’t a single negro. In my chemistry class, there was one negress and she was from Africa. African’s hate American blacks btw. A black American told me this and from then on, I noticed it. They will not let their children associate with blacks.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        Yes, African blacks think American blacks are stupid and lazy. This is because most African blacks got in through the legal immigration system, which means they’re mostly from the upper class in Africa, and thus likely have a higher average IQ than American blacks.

        Note that this does not apply to African blacks who got in through the refugee system (though those blacks hate American blacks too).

        • MikeofAges

          A little known fact. People like to think that American experience means coming here or leaving the backwoods if you are here already, making it to the top, and then staying there over the generations of your family.

          What actually happens, however, is that, except for those who are able to make arrangements on their own behalf (i.e. the wealthy and the hereditary upper middle class), the real story is, the people who have been here the longest often are the worst off.

          Speaking of New York’s specialized high schools, several of them were among the top ten in the world in producing Nobel Prize winners. Tiny Brooklyn College, which was no more than the equivalent of a small state college, for decades led all the world’s undergraduate college in producing Nobel Prize winners.

          The people who produced this record were a bunch of lower middle class Jewish kids with some inborn ability and the drive to write their names in the stars. Could the same people do that today? Well, maybe they could. But they’re not.

        • HE2

          Genetics, Somali, Eritrean, Congolese, other Africans brought here as “refugees” are terrorizing every city where dumped.

          • Alucard_the_last

            Blacks have this unique ability to turn any neighborhood they infect into something that rivals an African ghetto.

          • HE2

            Yes, indeed. We see it repeatedly in California, Alucard. Once well kept homes and safe neighborhoods almost overnight ghetto-ized by incoming blacks and browns.

          • GeneticsareDestiny

            Believe me, I don’t want to import blacks, especially the “refugees”. I’m from Minneapolis; I’ve had more than enough experience with them to know they’re bad for America.

            All I was saying is that blacks who come in through the immigration system (NOT the refugee system) are generally smarter than native born American blacks (the ones descended from the slaves).

            I don’t know why you would think that means I want them here. I don’t even want to live in the same country as our own blacks and I support monoracial, preferably monoethnic nations.

          • HE2

            Sorry, Genetics. I read too much into your post.
            Was following a line of reasoning based on your statement that Africans who legally immigrate here are not as low IQ as those long in this country, possibly descended from slaves.
            I do not want black ones in our country. Browns or yellows either. :[

  • Raymond Kidwell

    How do they come here from China and within two years own their own business? I think letting in one or two black or hispanic students in the name of diversity wouldn’t be a bad thing, but the reality is that often 20% of the enrollment being affirmative action is a target along with minorities getting huge amounts of additional financial aid and other support. In other words its not affirmative action that is so huge of a threat in my eyes, but rather the pervasiveness of it. It’s hard to compete against people who get an extra $10,000 a year and thousands of people who can score much lower than you and be accepted above you. College isn’t even the case, military, any kind of government job etc. etc. the same scenario plays out.

    I think Asians have high poverty rates because they almost never report their income and usually don’t pay taxes. And the government can’t import enough of them fast enough. So yeah that guy driving a mercedes benz and reporting $10,000 a year income- you can’t take the Asian poverty statistics seriously.

    • CalMark

      Opinions are not factually-based.

      • Usually Much Calmer

        You’re right, they are not.

        Kidwell keeps his eye on the ball and develops a hunch. I share it.

    • HE2

      Mr. Kidwell, your last paragraphAsians have high poverty rates because they almost never report their
      income and usually don’t pay taxes. And the government can’t import
      enough of them fast enough. So yeah that guy driving a mercedes benz and
      reporting $10,000 a year income.

      rings absolutely true in my experience as a S.F. Bay Area public health care employee.

      Taking personal medical and social well being histories, it is not unusual to uncover Asian families [Chinese, Korean, etc.] who present as naive and impoverished, but on closer look, nothing could be further from the truth. They know how to scam the system better than any ethnicity I have encountered.

      You hit the nail on the head; they cannot get here fast enough.

      • Raymond Kidwell

        I really like most Asians I have dealt with. They tend to be generally law abiding (in that they aren’t robbing people, not in regards to taxes), generally rational people who are mostly successful. But culturally and genetically they are different. In China nobody puts their money in the bank, they don’t trust banks. They don’t trust the government and cheating on taxes is normal. They take that way of life and bring it here. Italians are similar. It’s just how business is done to them and completely normal. What is odd to me is from the standpoint of the government, why would they want to import people who are a net drain on society. In the very least they could investigate and target these communities with a history of corruption and make some well publicized arrests, but don’t. I guess it is normal to game the system in America too but the average gullible Germanic and WASP hasn’t figured it out yet.

  • Alucard_the_last

    I find it incredible that all the ills of blacks are someone else’s fault. For ONCE why don’t they take responsibility over their own actions and lives.

    • Valmont

      That is not trending. Blacks in Detroit right now are protesting that their water
      being turned off for non-payment of the water bill is a racist conspiracy.

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    Why are we importing Orientals to steal school places and jobs from white youth? We should be looking out for our own kind, just like every other race does. Let these racial foreigners stay where they belong… in their own countries.

    • Bossman

      Blacks and Hispanics may be too simple to have an agenda but I firmly believe that East Asians have secret agendas that is hostile to North America.

      • JohnEngelman

        The agenda of East Asians is to perform well and to prosper.

        • Bossman

          So why are they so busy stealing U.S. trade secrets and scientific know-how?

          • JohnEngelman

            They devote most of their efforts to surpassing us. They can’t do that by stealing trade secrets.

          • Sloppo

            You can say what you want to, but their reputation for stealing trade secrets is very well earned.

          • Wholly Unconvinced

            Not just well earned, but widely known. Ask anyone in America, in private, what people conduct corporate as well as military espionage more than any other and they will respond with either Asians, or if they recognize the different groups, Chinese.

            The fact that Engelman willfully ignores this simple statement of fact, pretending it doesn’t exist, each and every time it’s brought up is proof that he is at best, a troll, and at worst, conducting his own little version of sabotage here, sidetrack posters into little comment whirlpools which go nowhere at all.

          • JohnEngelman

            Emphasizing stealing trade secrets is like blaming black crime and poverty on systematic racism.

          • Wholly Unconvinced

            Your statement is nonsensical. Emphasize and blame are not the same thing. Pointing out the Asian propensity for intellectual theft and repackaging for the purpose of reselling such intellectual property is akin to pointing out blacks propensity for violence.

            The above is logical. What you stated is a fantastic example of a straw man argument. You replaced my factual statement above about Asians (Chinese) tendency towards industrial espionage, and your refusal to even acknowledge it, with a completely new, and unrelated argument about black crime and one of the fairy-tale excuses for it.

            Which is… exactly what I pointed out that you do when confronted with facts about your beloved chosen ones. So thanks for proving my point so eloquently.

            I find it terribly depressing that even with all that, you have 3 up votes. One of which I can safely assume to be your alter ego with the judge dredd avatar.

          • Martel

            His comment is not even worthy of being named a strawman argument, it is completely nonsensical. Its indeed odd complete gibberish received upvotes.

          • Sloppo

            Ignoring their habit of stealing trade secrets is like ignoring the high violent crime rates of blacks.

          • JohnEngelman

            Stealing trade secrets is no more an Oriental habit than eating dogs and cats. It is something few Orientals do. Nevertheless, it is used as an excuse to hate the entire race by those who resent Oriental superiority and success.

          • Sloppo

            I didn’t say anything about hating blacks or orientals. You used to seem kind of sensible to me, but now you’re saying stuff like the left-wing nut-jobs. Most blacks are not murderers, but their murder rates are much higher than those of whites and east-asians. Similar things can be said about east asians who engage in industrial espionage. White inventors at trade shows know that a large percentage of the east asians who want to look at their products are more likely to be copy-cat competitors instead of potential customers.

          • Sloppo

            Agreed. I was at a trade show in Vegas with an inventor friend of mine who was marketing a product several months ago. Everyone with an innovation wanted nothing to do with anyone who looked oriental.

          • Shadow

            Actually,Mr.Engelman,they “devote most of their efforts to surpassing us” USING trade secrets that they have STOLEN from us.The case of Samsung stealing trade secrets from Apple being one of many examples.

          • We called this technological tail-gating. I did that with the guys from Mitsubishi Materials. They were a little better than I was at plain vanilla laboratory chemistry, but I could see things they were missing.

        • Wholly Unconvinced

          My goodness Engelman! I never expected to see you here on this article bemoaning poor little Asi… Oh, wait, nevermind…

        • NYB

          “The agenda of East Asians is to perform well and to prosper.”

          The East Asians aren’t so single-mindedly libertarian that they open their homeland to immigration and foreign ownership.

          Yes, they try to perform well and prosper, but included in their agenda is a love of the territorial motherland and ethnic pride, a love which we whites are denied having.

      • captainc

        It is not hostile, it is just what they do, live and multiply, Check South East Asians with their Chinese immigrants. A lot of their elites are mixed with the Chinese or Chinese themselves.

        Race replacement through meritocracy and capitalism, the only proper and decent way to replace other races living in the same living space.

    • JohnEngelman

      Orientals do not steal school places and jobs. They earn them.

      Orientals have as much right to be here as you do.

      • Bossman

        So why were they excluded from the USA for almost 100 years?

        • JohnEngelman

          Orientals were excluded from the USA for almost 1009 years because less talented whites resented their superior intelligence.

          • Bossman

            I don’t think it is as simple as that.

          • ATBOTL

            Go away, troll.

          • JohnEngelman

            You are an example of what I posted.

          • richard garyson

            I don’t resent Asians for their successes, but I think that it is sad that the only moral ground on which whites can attack policies that are harmful to whites is if they are harmful to Asians.

            Mr. Engelman, since you seem to be a fan Asians (not saying there is anything wrong with that), and think them more intelligent on average than whites, I was wondering why you think it is that it is primarily Asians who migrate to countries governed by whites than vice-versa.

          • JohnEngelman

            Orientals who come to the United States do so for the same reason Europeans used to. There are better economic opportunities here. As Oriental countries catch up the United States economically, immigration declines. There is not a large influx of Japanese immigrants. There is not a large influx of Europeans either any more.

          • richard garyson

            Right, but how is it that Whites, who on average are not as intelligent Asians, managed to create civilizations superior to and more desirable than those created by Asians? I am being genuine, and am curious to hear your thoughts on the matter.

          • JohnEngelman

            We have been through this before. The West is in decline. The East is rising.

          • Texan1st

            The East is not plagued by the diversity curse.

          • richard garyson

            True, but out decline is self-induced. It is the result of being brainwashed into pathological altruism and collective flagellation. What should be done to reverse our decline?

          • JohnEngelman

            Brainwashing is a myth. Even during the Korean War, when the term originated, it did not happen. After the war very few American prisoners of war refused to return to the United States. A large number of Chinese and North Korean prisoners refused to return.

            I can think of two changes that might reverse the decline. First, White countries should not admit the immigration of races that are characterized by low intelligence, crime, and illegitimacy.

            Second, whites should adopt Oriental habits of studiousness, hard work, obedience to the law, and marital fidelity.

          • citizenrich

            Japan doesn’t allow immigration and since 1965 Northern Europeans have basically been banned from immigrating to the US.

            Don’t let facts get in your way. Go on, I’m reading…

          • Batterytrain

            Asians are in no way smarter then Europeans not even close, firstly the best ones comes to the West in terms of intelligence; also Asian countries selectively select who to test therere al intelligence of their population. the vast majority of the chi ese are subhuman corrupt

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            What “superior intelligence”? Northeast Asians were imported for the express purpose of undercutting the American worker. They were resented (and still are) because they lowered wages and intensified competition for available jobs.

          • JohnEngelman

            The races differ in brain size and on IQ tests. On average Orientals have the largest brains and highest IQs…

            The average Oriental IQ is about 106, the White IQ about 100, and the Black IQ about 85…

            Orientals average about 102 million more brain cells than Whites, and that Whites have about 480 million more than Blacks. These differences in brain size probably explain the racial differences in IQ and cultural achievement.

            – Professor J. Philippe Rushton, from “RACE, EVOLUTION, AND BEHAVIOR”

            Professor Rushton spoke at six American Renaissance conferences.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            There is a weak-to-moderate positive correlation between IQ and brain size, which means that average larger brain size is not necessarily indicative of higher intelligence.

            In Group Differences in Intelligence (2000), the psychologist John Loehlin writes:

            There is some dispute as to whether Asian
            Americans obtain higher average scores on IQ tests than European Americans or score at about the same level. Richard Lynn has estimated that the IQs of Asians in their native countries average around 106 but that those of Asian Americans might be a little lower (Lynn, 1991). In contrast, James Flynn has argued that many studies that have compared the test scores of various Asian-American samples with U.S. norms have involved an artifact, namely, they have failed to allow for the prevailing upward creep of IQ test performance over time (the so-called “Flynn effect”; Flynn 1984, 1996). When the results from studies using just Asian-American samples were adjusted for this effect and combined with those from studies in which both groups were simultaneously measured on the same tests, Flynn found little overall IQ difference between European and Asian Americans – perhaps a couple of IQ points in favor of European Americans (Flynn, 1991).

            […]

            There is also a large difference in how effectively Asian
            Americans and European Americans convert their cognitive skills into professional and occupational achievement (Weyl, 1969). Flynn estimated that Asian Americans tend to achieve at a level characteristic of European Americans with IQs 10 to 20 points higher. This is partly because a greater proportion of
            Asian Americans who are qualified for higher education in fact undertake it and partly due to their being able to succeed at lower ability levels by working harder (Flynn, 1991).

            The Coleman Report (1966) is one of the largest and most representative studies of racial-ethnic differences in IQ and achievement. According to this report, Asian Americans (Chinese and Japanese) have lower IQ’s than white Americans. When the report’s final scores are converted to an IQ metric, the
            average scores for groups of differing ancestry are as follows:

            European Americans: Verbal: 102 Nonverbal: 102

            African Americans: Verbal: 85.5 Nonverbal: 85.9

            Asian Americans: Verbal: 98.2 Nonverbal: 101.5

            Native Americans: Verbal: 88.9 Nonverbal: 95.0

          • JohnEngelman

            One can always find something on the internet that confirms what one wants to believe. The superior average intelligence of Orientals is well attested by many sources, including quite a few on this website.

          • Adolf Verloc

            Sorry, I have to disagree. I summarize technological advances that are nearing commercialization for a client. The percentage of breakthroughs made by North Asians and Indians are way out of proportion to their share of the population. These are not journal articles of purely academic interest, they are the sort of things that will change society. Our nation gets a good bargain in having such people here.

          • I understand where you’re coming from, but I’ll have to respectfully disagree. Two points: (1) IF and only if we have to have the North Asians and Indians here, let it be in extremely small numbers, limited to ONLY those very few persons who make such scientific or technological “breakthroughs.” and (2) This “bargain” mentality is one that eventually leads to even more of them coming here. It may not intend to do this, but there’s a slippery-slope that will eventually result in more and more of them settling in the U.S. and thereby racially and culturally changing us forever.

            This is something Americans should be very cautious about because while it may appear promising on the surface, it has the potential of leading to even bigger social-cultural problems.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            What “technological advances that are nearing commercialization”? Name one. The fact that they can only thrive in societies built by whites is testimony enough to their intellectual and biological inferiority. These racial foreigners are mediocrities imported by the US government to drive down wages and replace white Americans with a cheap and compliant workforce. Let them stay in their own countries where they belong.

          • Adolf Verloc

            How about ten?

            Isolation of the gene for a new high-yield soybean cultivar for the Northern Midwest – Jianxin Ma, Purdue

            Magnetically Sensitive Liquid Crystal Nanorods Offer New Possibilities For Displays – Yadong Yin, UC Berkeley

            New Catalyst More Efficient In Converting Biodiesel Waste To Valuable Chemicals – Michael Wong, Rice

            “Neurocore” Chips Simulate Brain Function To Improve Computing Speed And Capability – Kwabena Boahen, Stanford

            Nickel Catalyst Could Produce Cheaper Hydrogen – Yushan Yan, U of Delaware

            Supercapacitors Made With Ruthenium, Graphene Offer Increased Energy Storage – Cengiz S. Ozkan, UC Riverside

            Novel Terahertz Detector Opens Up New Possibilities For Medical Imaging, Security – Jay Guo, U of Mich

            “Fastener Molecule” Helps Contrast Medium Improve MRI Imaging – Hyunjoon Kong, U of Illinois

            Angle-Sensitive Light Filter Has Photographic, Solar Energy Applications – Yichen Shen, MIT

            GM Bacteria Could Produce Rocket Fuel – Pamela Peralta-Yahya, Georgia Tech

            These are all technologies with considerable industrial and commercial promise. All of the lead scientists / primary authors are faculty members, permanent US residents or citizens doing their work in the US.
            The majority of innovators certainly have European-named lead scientists or primary authors. But to refuse to avail ourselves of our ability to integrate foreign scientists and technologist as a path toward national eclipse in a competitive world.

          • I don’t believe that whites resented Asians because of “their superior intelligence.” Most whites during the early years of Asian immigration (mostly Chinese) generally viewed them as foreign peasants who were worthy of nothing greater than menial labor. I don’t think for one minute that whites were standing around awed by the Asians “superior intelligence.” They probably found them to be a strange and superstitious foreign people.

            I seriously doubt whites resented them for the reasons you suppose, but more likely because they disliked a foreign, non-white people and non-white culture from taking root in their country.

          • JohnEngelman

            Chinese Americans have certainly demonstrated that they are worthy of more than menial labor. They are coming to dominate America’s best universities and corporations. They tend to make more money than white Gentiles.

          • I don’t doubt that the Chinese and other Asian groups have proven to excel in more than mere menial labor. They do have admirable qualities and I don’t resent their accomplishments.

            Regardless, this is not quite the same as saying they have the “right” to be in America as much as American whites.

            Moreover, the whites who opposed the Chinese and looked down on them did so NOT because they recognized an intellectually superior people or anything along these lines, but because they disliked a non-white foreign people with a foreign culture invading their land.

            Had the roles been reversed, the Chinese would have felt the same about whites if we came over to their land in large numbers.

            It’s natural for any racial group to want to protect its own race and culture from what it perceives as foreign outsiders.

          • Anglokraut

            …as he conveniently ignores the uncomfortable historical fact of Chinese labor driving down the wages where ever they went.

          • JohnEngelman

            All immigration drives down wages. The immigration of white Gentiles from Europe did that also.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Not all immigration is the same. Third world immigration will drive down wages much faster and much lower than white immigration. The Chinese were an especially dangerous threat to the living standards of the 19th century white worker because they demanded and could survive on much lower wages.

          • Anglokraut

            …which was a major contributing factor in the decision to end all immigration in the 1920s. Fewer workers=higher wages.

      • ATBOTL

        You do not belong on this site. Go away.

        • JohnEngelman

          I bring facts to serious discussions. You do not.

        • Jotun Hunter

          the only way to deal with the Engeldink is to ignore, he has nothing to say, and all day to say it.

          • HE2

            I resent the highjacking of our threads, full stop.
            Is anyone else considering bailing out of AmRen because of the two or three anti-White trolls we are entertaining?

          • Jotun Hunter

            Don’t lose heart, that’s what the trolls want. There are others, more, that I also suspect, who play a more genial game, but have a broad, over-arching support for the main trolls. Who the hell gives Engelman upvotes? Other than himself – passing jews and asians? I do not believe in total free speech because I do not believe one can escape from bias. The Amren admin are very strange in their permissiveness, even in the face of very obvious trolling. They must be libertarians at heart.

          • JohnEngelman

            You do not seem to have read this yet. It is at the top of every page here, “We welcome comments that add information or perspective, and we encourage polite debate.”

            My admiration for Jews and Orientals is consistent with the basic assumptions of race realism.

            Your propensity to flame me is inconsistent with what is posted at the top of every page.

          • Jotun Hunter

            I wasn’t talking to you, time-waster

          • Jotun Hunter

            I wasn’t talking to you, time-waster

          • JohnEngelman

            This thread is about brilliant Asians being discriminated against. What I say in praise of the Oriental race is consistent with the purpose of this thread.

            I am not hijacking anything. I am agreeing with the opening article that Orientals tend to be hard working and intelligent.

          • JohnEngelman

            You cannot ignore what I say. You do not like it, but you know it is true.

          • Jotun Hunter

            I do not like it and I know it is untrue. Do not put words in my mouth with your playground tactics. Less than untrue, your twisted philosophy is not even smart.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        White people built the United States for white posterity only. This means that only white people have the right to enjoy the benefits of living in the United States. Northeast Asians are just imported thieves, free-loading parasites and foreign invaders taking advantage of something they neither have the intelligence nor creativity to build on their own. Their only “contributions” to this country are lower wages, stolen jobs, higher cost of housing and the ethnic cleansing of whites. They have as much right to be here as you do, which is NONE.

        • JohnEngelman

          only white people have the right to enjoy the benefits of living in the United States.

          – Einsatzgrenadier

          That is an interesting legal theory.

          The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution suggests an alternative analysis, however. This is what it says, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            The 14th amendment only applied to the slaves that had been freed by the Civil War, not third world invaders. Nevertheless, the legality of this amendment is questionable:

            A MISTAKEN BELIEF — that there is a valid article in the Constitution known as the “Fourteenth Amendment” — is responsible for the Supreme Court decision of 1954 and the ensuing controversy over desegregation in the public schools of America. No such amendment was ever legally ratified by three fourths of the States of the Union as required by the Constitution itself. The so-called “Fourteenth Amendment” was dubiously proclaimed by the Secretary of State on July 20, 1868. The President shared that doubt. There were 37 States in the Union at the time, so ratification by at least 28 was necessary to make the amendment an integral part of the Constitution. Actually, only 21 States legally ratified it. So it failed of ratification.

          • JohnEngelman

            The Fourteenth Amendment very clearly says that Orientals who come here legally have the right to become citizens. As citizens they have every right white Gentiles do.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Where does it “very clearly” say “that Orientals who come here legally have the right to become citizens”? The unconstitutional 14th amendment only applied to former slaves. The naturalization act of 1790, which restricted citizenship to free white persons, remained in place until 1952.

          • Garrett Brown

            Where?

            Edit: LOL at that silly, uneducated girl thumbing you up. Too funny.

          • Anglokraut

            That is almost certainly one of Eng’s alter egos.

          • Garrett Brown

            She was informing me the other day that there is this magical negro army that fights on the front lines every war and there are just as many negro doctors waiting to patch us up when we need medical attention. Unfortunately, she could not provide any photographic or statistical proof for her assertions. Funny that huh?

          • Anglokraut

            One would think a picture would be easy to find, as any Negro even marginally competent is paraded for all to see. How very odd that no pictures could be found.

      • “Orientals have as much right to be here as you do” – Nonsense! I don’t doubt that Asians have earned the high marks they do in academics. I don’t fault them for this, but to say they have “as much right to be here” as American whites is absurd.

        Our Founders never envisioned nor would they have supported hordes of Asian immigrants in our land, regardless of how well they did in school. The founding stock of this nation (whites) who were born here have the “right” to be here, but not those of Asian ancestry who have immigrated to this once great nation.

        • JohnEngelman

          Asians have faced fierce discrimination in America, but this has not stopped them from working hard and getting ahead. In fact, they have been so successful in “racist” America that whites have even begun to complain about Asian achievement. Whether one looks at Japanese and Chinese, who have been in America for generations, or Koreans and Vietnamese, who have arrived more recently, Asians have been remarkably successful…

          The achievements of more recent Asian immigrants have been well publicized. Everyone has heard of Vietnamese children who came to America unable to speak English and then, a few years later, graduated at the tops of their high-school classes…

          Throughout this period of constant prejudice and persecution, Chinese worked hard, saved their money, and built better lives
          themselves. By the time they had full, legal standing in this country, many Chinese had incomes comparable to those
          of native-born whites.By 1969, Chinese as a group outearned Italian, German, and even Anglo-Saxon Americans.

          During the 1960s, Chinatown was the part of San Francisco with
          the most unemployment and poverty, the highest rate of tuberculosis, the least education, and the most substandard housing. Nevertheless, in 1965, only five people of Chinese ancestry went to jail in the whole state of California.

          – Jared Taylor, “Paved with Good Intentions”

          Wherever you look, Asians outperform whites academically and financially…

          we have a considerably less than one standard deviation difference between Asian IQ — North Asian IQ — and white IQ. I think that, too, is a result of genetics, and I think that that is what explains the dominance of Asians in certain fields, and their lower rates of illegitimacy compared to whites, their lower
          crime rates, their better achievement in school, their higher average incomes…

          I think Asians are objectively superior to whites by just about any measure that you can come up with in terms of what are the ingredients for a successful society.

          – Jared Taylor Interview

          • Truthseeker

            However, Jared Taylor also supports a White homeland so that we can preserve our own culture and traditions. Even if Asians are objectively superior to Whites by just about any standard, that doesn’t make it OK for them to displace us in the societies we built for ourselves. The issue is not who’s superior to whom, but the principle that everyone deserves a homeland for their people.

          • UncleSham

            If Asians are superior, they should be able to build superior societies.

          • Ella

            I’d like to see where Whites would be today if they have not succumbed to a more submissive role in America. Asians do not believe in this self-sacrificing “charity” toward other ethnic racial groups.

            White Americans did put the first astronauts on the moon using white technologies. Train engines, planes, steamboats, Mr. Benz’s das auto, and of course, phones can be credited to inventive white males. My list can go on forever for their deserved credit.

          • John, the fact that Asians have worked hard and succeeded is not something I would contend with. They are clearly, on average, a high IQ people. You’re raising a moot point because relatively few would disagree with it, even among race-realists.

            But Asians have not been the only racial or ethnic group that has suffered discrimination and adversity. The Irish, the Polish, and the Italians have all experienced very similar adversity and have arisen to be successful people.

            As for the Asians being “objectively superior to whites,” I don’t believe it. I look around the world and I see the kinds of grand societies that whites have built and the kinds that Asians have built, and there’s simply no comparison in my opinion. This is why most Asians long to reside in our nations, and not in their own. Moreover, there is not a similar desire on the part of whites to live in the Orient.

            I think of the great literature and art that whites have created, and I am again impressed by the superiority of whites over Asians. In every way, whites are more creative than Asians.

            I’m in no position to contest the IQ differences between whites and Asians. But it’s whites who have conquered the world and who have built the modern societies that are the envy of the nations.

  • ncpride

    Where is the article bemoaning the lower White acceptance rate? HA! Just kidding, y’all. It’s gonna take a little more discrimination before we get our act together and start pushing back, looks like.

    • LHathaway

      It is an amazing article. Perhaps a ‘career ender’ for the journalist. Perhaps they have decided to cut down on the victim parade, now that whites are approaching victim status.

      • JohnEngelman

        The truth about racial differences ends careers.

  • RyanP

    I wonder how many of these poor asians take advantage of welfare programs. I bet many of them qualify and don’t even consider signing up for them.

  • Hal K

    Forget the “poor Asians.” They can go back to Asia. All they do is drive up housing costs and take white jobs.

    • Rhialto

      Indeed, the war against White men is being waged on many fronts.

    • JohnEngelman

      Poor Asians deserve everything they get.

      • IstvanIN

        But not in the country my forebears built.

        • JohnEngelman

          Asians are building the country your forebears built.

          • Sloppo

            The country my forbears built is currently being dismantled.

      • Magician

        “Poor Asians deserve everything they get.”

        Hm I thought you love Asians?

        • JohnEngelman

          Asians in the United States deserve everything they achieve, which is to say admission to our best universities, and positions with our best corporations.

      • citizenrich

        Small wieners?

    • Magician

      “All they do is drive up housing costs”

      Well old friend!! Houses in areas where there is a sizable African American population tend to be cheaper. The more of them, the cheaper. I read that some houses in Detroit cost $1.

      • Hal K

        Yes, and if you want to live away from Negroes, you have to pay more because of the Asians.

  • Sloppo

    It isn’t enough to just allow more blacks into the elite schools. We need to address the issues which prevent blacks from succeeding in higher education. For one thing, the laws of physics which confuse black people should be replaced with simple laws which are easy to understand and remember.

  • CalMark

    Incredible story. Thanks for posting this, AmRen.

  • DailyKenn

    Eric Holder is a graduate of Stuyvesant High

  • Darb Janowsti

    Di blasio is a disgrace , the far left does indeed have a mental disorder.

  • Alexandra1973

    If you show any signs of being better than someone else, count on being punished. That’s what I’m reading here.

  • IstvanIN

    It may be unfair but I simply do not care. The “Asians” shouldn’t be here and I really don’t care about any arguments between them and the blacks and browns. I am tired of everything from water bills to school admissions being the subject to some racial test. Even among ourselves we have enough differences to keep us being 100% in sync for a long time to come. It is just tiresome.

    • Vito Powers

      I’m in complete agreement with you. It’s always the same old tiresome song and dance.

      Just think, when FDR was president in the 1930s, Immigration and failing schools weren’t issues because of the 1924 National Quotas and “separate but equal” being current laws.

      Sadly, both of these constraints are gone.

  • MBlanc46

    “Holistic”? What will they stoop to next?

  • Magician

    A young black male punches a white male around his age in the face (not a knockout game)

    youtube[dot]com/watch?v=Fwt1cA3E2AI

    Maybe the black male overreacted, but I am not a bit amused by what the white male did in the video either. I do not find it funny one bit. If he ever does the same thing to me or see him doing the same thing to anyone else I am not going to think it is funny

  • antiquesunlight

    Where did you learn that? I have heard others say that, but all the statistics and things I’ve seen, like in Jared’s videos, look to suggest otherwise. For example, there is a chart in Jared’s video about race and intelligence which states that Asians are (I think) twice as likely to have very high IQs.

    • Garrett Brown

      Whites have a higher variance in the bell curve. We are at the maximum and lowest possible points in IQ. Therefore, we are the smartest while also being the dumbest.

    • richard garyson

      I remember a vide, in which Jared discussed his time in Japan. In it, he speculated that the Japanese had a high average, narrow SD, and not as many outliers.

  • UncleSham

    Asians help to destroy the myth that the success of Whites is based upon “White privilege”. Most people don’t care about discrimination against Whites, so this is a necessary starting point, as frustrating as that may be.

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    If Asians are kept out of elite schools, not to worry…they still take full advantage of the SBA, which is closed to Whites. For Asians, affirmative action is a wash – neither win or lose; for Whites it’s all lose.

  • HE2

    Anon, I believe as you; slave merchants did not sell their best and brightest, nor did tribal chiefs cast off their best to the traders.

    We received the lowest of the low, just as today.

  • Alucard_the_last

    America’s biggest mistake. The 2nd biggest mistake was not deporting them after the Civil War.

  • De Doc

    Science is simply not the strong point among Blacks and Latinos. Natural selection has weeded out the non-hackers for these elite schools. Show the talent and ability or get lost!

  • LIBERTYSINCURSION

    “Critics of the SHSAT will reply that something must be done about declining black and Hispanic enrollment at the specialized high schools. The answer, however, can never be to lower objective standards” – WRONG!!! – The answer, however, is ALWAYS to lower objective standards! In fact, if we’re talking about black and Hispanic people not performing at the level of Whites and Asians. Which, determined by nature’s genetic reality, is what we are always talking about, it’s the ONLY answer! The racist liberals out there are not interested in producing a great and prosperous nation. They are only interested in producing diversity, at the expense of a once great and prosperous nation.

  • ChongEngelstein

    The only reason that high-scoring, model minority (demigodly, really…) Asians are being kept from taking their rightful place in the schools their forefathers didn’t build is because the White gatekeepers (those awful meshugganah shiksa goyim schmekelers, at least) are afraid of being replaced by their natural superiors. Thank G-d actual People (as chosen by YHWH) don’t have to worry!

  • journey

    “The answer, however, can never be to lower objective standards.” Then please pray tell what is the answer? This country has spent trillions and still counting to disprove that “lower objective standards” is the answer.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    Yes, many of the blacks that were brought to the Americas were already slaves. I imagine the black slave traders in Africa probably purposefully sold us the worst ones, too, to get rid of them.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    Yes, many of the blacks who were brought to the Americas as slaves were already slaves in Africa. I imagine the African slave traders sold whitey the worst slaves, too, to get rid of them.