Native Groups Look to Retire the Cleveland Indians’ Chief Wahoo

Phil Helsel, NBC News, June 23, 2014

Amid the controversy surrounding the Washington Redskins’ team name, some Native American groups hope public outcry turns toward a different team’s symbol, more than 300 miles to the northwest: Chief Wahoo, the bright red, wide-grinning face of the Cleveland Indians baseball team.

“It’s been offensive since day one,” Robert Roche, a Chiricahua Apache and longtime opponent of the Indians’ team name and logo, told NBC News. “We are not mascots. My children are not mascots. We are people.”

Roche said his group, People Not Mascots, is preparing to file a federal lawsuit against the Indians over the team name and logo. He expects the suit to be filed by the end of July.

The Cleveland Indians declined to comment to NBC News.

Groups like People Not Mascots hope that new pressure will be applied to the Indians following last Wednesday’s decision by the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, which stripped the Redskins of its trademark and declared the team name to be “a racial slur.”

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The Redskins said it will appeal Wednesday’s ruling. The team won an appeal that challenged a similar 1999 trademark ruling.

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Chief Wahoo, in his current form, has been used by the Cleveland Indians for more than 60 years. The team last year began giving more prominence to an alternative logo, a block letter C, causing speculation that Wahoo is on his way out–something the team has denied.

In Cleveland, there seems to be general support for Chief Wahoo, said Mike Brandyberry, managing editor of the website Did The Tribe Win Last Night?, and any controversy about the symbol isn’t a topic of daily conversation. Last year, the site agreed to publish an essay from a fan who called for retiring Chief Wahoo, but it also offered to publish any responses from fans wanting to keep the logo.

“We didn’t receive one,” Brandyberry said. “I would say the majority of Indians fans and Clevelanders support Chief Wahoo,” but added that he personally is ambivalent about a logo change.

A movement on Twitter, #DeChief, began in March encouraging fans to remove Chief Wahoo’s likeness from hats and memorabilia on their own. Another social media campaign, #keepthechief, was created to support the logo.

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  • [Guest]

    Red man lynch Chief Wahoo! Paleface laugh.

  • Adolf Verloc

    OK, let’s try the Cleveland Caucasians! Wait, there are too few people to identify with that left in Cleveland.

    • Pro_Whitey

      I like The Fightin’ Whities, but the Tippecanoes might do, too. I believe William Henry Harrison or one of the soldiers in his command is credited with killing Tecumseh.

  • Samuel_Morton

    “Please do not worship us. We prefer to receive no adoration and be utterly forgotten.”

    These whiners don’t represent the Native Americans that I’ve met, who are actually proud of their warrior ancestry and at peace with our shared history.

  • ncpride

    Why not just utterly erase them from our history? Best way of all not to ‘offend’ these people. That would require the endless White guilt be erased as well, so scratch that idea. They’re not giving THAT baby up!

  • Tim_in_Indiana

    DON’T mention the Vikings, because that will be the next name they will demand to be changed, because, after all, the Vikings were an “imperialistic, territorial invader race,” etc. etc., blah blah blah. As we all know, it’s not REALLY about avoiding offense, it’s abut not-so-subtly tearing down the white race.

  • Tarczan

    Chief Wahoo is a brave warrior. I have two hats with the great chief on them. I wear them all the time, it’s kind of my “good ‘ole boy ” outfit.

  • None of this about Indians, who mostly don’t care. It’s about whites being demonized as racists. I posted a piece on my site last night where a libtard college woman is calling the kaffir lime racist, while launching a worldwide campaign to have the name of the lime changed. Racist team names, racist fruit, racism and racists everywhere. It’s a form of insanity that has gripped liberals, women, and other self-righteous, self-annilhilating narcissists.

  • Medizin

    If Native Americans think our use of Indian words offensive, then I suggest we eliminate reference to them altogether. That includes renaming states, rivers, and other landmarks. Don’t purchase their silver turqouise jewelry, moccasins, and fringe suede jackets.

    • StillModerated

      Don’t patronize their mob-run casinos either.

      • Gina Tingles

        In my state, the Indian casinos offer better odds than any casino on the LV Strip. And I can drive there.

        • IstvanIN

          Gambling isn’t productive.

          • Gina Tingles

            Nope, for me its entertainment. If you understand the math, it can be inexpensive entertainment.

          • IstvanIN

            To each his own, but I have been of the opinion that the spread gambling beyond Los Vegas and Reno wasn’t such a good idea.

          • Gina Tingles

            Probably true.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Inexpensive entertainment? Gambling?

            What are you smoking?

          • Gina Tingles

            Well, if you play the right games and use the right strategies, it can be relatively inexpensive. Check out the book “The Frugal Gambler”. I actually met the author in Las Vegas once. Nice lady.

          • Dr. Möbias

            Glad you like it. Instead of smoking and gambling away my hard earned cash I’m investing it in the cigarette companies. And guess what? I’ve made a lot of money off of smokers. I’d say that’s a better “gamble” than a one-armed bandit or crooked card games. For the record, I’ve never smoked so much as a single cigarette my entire life, I watched too many of my loved ones die slowly and painfully of emphysema or quickly and painfully from lung cancer and put too many of them in the ground from addiction to tobacco, most before the age of 65, some much earlier.

            I’m going to travel to Fiji this year for three weeks to snorkel and scuba dive with my “winnings” from the cigarette cos. and others that pander to human vice. The “bet” that humans will continue to smoke, gamble, drink. watch mindless entertainment and wage endless wars has paid off in “spades.”

            In a few years, I’m going to retire RICH from betting on the human condition.

    • MikeofAges

      But if you want to do a little small stakes gambling, do go to their casinos, for what they are not. They are not flooded with alcohol and not the nucleus of a community rife with criminals, dissipates, hookers and compulsive gamblers.

      • Medizin

        Hate to admit this, but I like the ‘crowd’ watching in Las Vegas. Gives me something to talk about when I return home.

      • IstvanIN

        You’ve been to Philadelphia’s SpookHouse casino?

        • MikeofAges

          Just the West Coast. Pretty laid back here, but could be different elsewhere. You must be referring to Sugar House. Is that Indian or private business?

        • PvtCharlieSlate

          Does their mascot look like a lawn jockey?

      • r j p

        Every casino is a cesspool of degenerates.
        They all have check-cashing windows for the LCD.

    • ThomasER916

      They’re not “Native Americans.” They were never Americans. They were just typical, low-IQ, tribal trash that now streams across the border, collects Welfare, and carries disease.

      • Medizin

        “They were never Americans.”
        I agree. I believe the Solutreans (Europeans) were here first.

  • Manaphy

    One thing is being genuinely offended and another is being perennial crybabies who find “Native American disenfranchisement” everywhere you look. I’ve spoken.

  • DonReynolds

    There MUST be an end to this nonsense!
    American Indian names are commonplace names, not just trademarks and mascots.

    Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Wisconsin, and Wyoming……are ALL the names of American Indian tribes, Indian villages found there, or local Indian names already in use to describe the area. It is not an insult or offense to use American Indian names in this country.

    • Manaphy

      And South Dakota.

      • DonReynolds

        You are absolutely correct. I admit to all of my shortcomings…..except when the dog ate my homework.

    • PvtCharlieSlate

      I think you’ll find that “Delaware” is derived from an English title: Thomas West, Baron de la Warr. The name was applied to the colony, the bay, the river and the tribe that lived by the river. The tribe’s name was “Lenape”.

      • DonReynolds

        You are absolutely correct. The colonists called them the Delaware Indians. It was not an Indian word for themselves.

        • PvtCharlieSlate

          Just for the heck of it, I wonder about the origin of “Wyoming” since there is a Wyoming Valley in Pennsylvania and the town of Wyoming in Rhode Island. “Wyoming” just seems not to fit with other Indian names in New England like Pequot, Quonset, Sconset, Niantic, Cos Cob, Narragansett, Connecticut, Housatonic, Massachusetts …

          • DonReynolds

            Delaware Indian word, meaning “mountains and valleys alternating”; the same as the Wyoming Valley in Pennsylvania. Legh Freeman, publisher of The Frontier Index in Kearny, Nebraska, claimed that it was he who first suggested Wyoming as the name for this portion of the Dakota Territory. Wyoming name comes from the Dakota “mscheweamiing” meaning “at the big flats” or “large plains.”

          • PvtCharlieSlate

            Fascinating. Thank you.

  • GB101

    Repugnant headline! “Native” means… Well, Amren readers know what “native” means. Too bad journalists don’t.

    • IstvanIN

      When I think Native I think National Geographic from grammar school.

    • DonReynolds

      Native comes from the word nativity and it describes the land of your birth. The vast, vast majority of Americans are NATIVE AMERICANS, no matter where their ancestors came from. I despise the term native when used to describe American Indians. I am as native as they are. My family has been here almost 400 years.

  • MBlanc46

    Did anyone think that the Indians weren’t going to be next on the list?

    • r j p

      Atlanta Braves and Florida State come next.

      • MBlanc46

        Quite possibly, although I believe it’s the case that FSU has an agreement with the Seminoles. What is clear is that it’s never enough for the Neo-Stalinists. That should make it clear that to us that there’s no point in giving in to them the first time. Chief Illiniwek, forever!

  • Anglokraut

    They think this incarnation of Chief Wahoo is offensive? They should see the 1940s Chief Wahoo!

  • Alexandra1973

    Admittedly, Wahoo does look like a grinning idiot. My mom doesn’t like it at all (that’s where I got my Cherokee ancestry from, her side) and lucky for her she lives in the Detroit area.

    I live in Ohio and she told me never get my son Cleveland Indians stuff. I don’t get him sport stuff anyway.

  • Dr. Möbias

    I’m so glad that the very worst problem facing professional sports teams is being solved by the PC police one team at a time.

    I think I’ll hang onto my old Chief Wahoo hat and T-shirts. They should fetch a fortune in a few years.

  • Bill

    My prediction: atheists will go after the New Orleans Saints. Maybe the N.O. Agnostics?

    • ThomasER916

      Atheists are ethno-masochists. They should be shipped to Zimbabwe to experience DIEversity.

      • TXCriollo

        That wouldn’t be a bad idea

  • MikeofAges

    How ’bout the Washington Shylocks? I wouldn’t be offended in the least.

    • PvtCharlieSlate

      Washington Red Inks would be more appropriate.

    • Joe blow

      Or the Miami Mockies…

  • Dave West

    I find the Minnesota Vikings highly offensive, I think I’m going to call my congressmen, start a “social justice” group, and whine about it for the next three decades. Never mind, I actually have a life.

    • TXCriollo

      The fighting irish ie drunk irish men that fight, this never seemed to be a problem. Its the liberal whites in america who feel they need to make up for past sins and make all of is hear it

      • r j p

        That has always perplexed me.
        A French order having an Irish nickname.

  • r j p

    Miami University of Ohio is named for Miami tribe.

  • r j p

    Can I buy an “Indianapolis Clowns” jersey?

  • ElComadreja

    As has been stated before the first thing we have to get rid of is the term “Native American” as it’s applied to Amerindians. Everyone born on American soil is a “Native American. Every time I see one of these liberal propaganda pieces that try to make us feel guilty for “stealing” their land and suggesting they have some kind of God given ownership with us merely some type of illegitimate squatters I want to puke. I’ll go back to Europe right after they migrate back to Asia from whence they came. Two cultures met, fought, and the stronger, more advanced one prevailed. If we had been as merciful to them as they generally were to each other (and as the Spanish were in Central and South America) there’d be none of them left to whine.

  • Epiminondas

    Can’t wait till these Inquisitors get to Tallahassee. The Seminole Nation is 100% behind the FSU Seminole athletic teams. Mad-as-hell Indians and furious rednecks are going to be a very high hurdle for the sensitivity crowd.

  • PvtCharlieSlate

    Nobody (yet) seems to mind the fact that Army helicopters are all named after Indian tribes. The UH-1s are officially “Iroquois” and the CH-47s are “Chinooks” – although when I was in they were called “$hithooks”.

  • Dr. Möbias

    “How much are golf club memberships”

    Frankly, I don’t give a damn as to how much golf memberships cost.

    Posting childish drivel hardly makes a rational debate point. You need to go back to your anti-white cult minder and get a new set of anti-white talking points for the chip implanted in your head, I’ve heard all the tired “country club” arguments before.

    I swear you anti-whites are the same, just like a bunch of Pavlov’s trained dogs: white privilege, country clubs, white privilege, golf courses, bark bark bark.