Immigration Reform Moves to States; New York Eyes Citizenship After 3 Years of Taxes

Paul Bedard, Washington Examiner, June 16, 2014

The frustration with Washington’s inaction on any type of immigration reform has forced proponents to shift their attention to states such as New York where a new plan was offered Monday to grant citizenship and voting rights after an illegal immigrant pays three years of taxes.

The Washington-based Center for Popular Democracy said the New York legislative effort to provide citizenship benefits to three million immigrants is the result of the fallout of congressional gridlock and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s defeat last week, which pundits blamed on his support for reform.

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The New York legislation, titled “New York is Home Act,” sets requirements for immigrants to meet before they can apply for citizenship with New York’s Office for New Americans, created by Gov. Andrew Cuomo:

• Proof of identity.

• Proof of three years of New York state residency.

• Proof of three years of New York state tax payments.

• Commitment to abide by New York laws and uphold the state constitution.

• A willingness to serve on New York juries and to continue to pay state taxes.

In return, said Friedman’s group in a release, immigrants would get New York state citizenship, financial aid for higher education, health care, drivers’ licenses, professional licenses, the right to vote, the right to run for office, and protection against racial profiling.

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  • Ike Eichenberg

    I support this, let all of the illegals invade liberal states.

    • Sick of it

      They always send them into our states is the thing (along with the white lunatics supporting all of this).

      • ThomasER916

        That’s where we’ll regroup. From here we execute the Culture of Critique.

    • DonReynolds

      I would be in favor of a Constitutional Amendment to allow the states to decide whether to allow illegal aliens to become state citizens except that certain states would allow them to vote in Federal elections. Letting foreign citizens to cast the deciding vote in this country in Federal elections is reason enough for civil war in this country.

    • MekongDelta69

      I support deporting EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL ALIEN in this entire country back to their country of origin.

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        I support deporting every third world immigrant back to their country of origin. They’re all illegal, even the ones who came under the treasonous 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act.

        • Dr. Möbias

          I support deporting those who foisted the 1965 immigration and nationalization act on the U.S.

      • Ike Eichenberg

        I agree, after a few (10-20) years incarcerated and picking lettuce to pay for their crime.

        But I see no chance of wikipedia dot org/wiki/Operation_Wetback (part II) in the foreseeable future.

      • Erasmus

        I support putting Andrew Cuomo, Barack Obama, Luis Gutierrez and every other one of our “leaders” waving the white flag of surrender to the illegal alien lobby on trial for treason.

      • I support deporting all U.S. citizens that are not American (only whites can be American). Citizenship is just a visiting pass.

      • Sick of it

        What about the Hispanics who popped in post-WWII and have no historic place in the American nation? That would be almost all of them by the way.

    • Dr. Möbias

      They’re spreading out everywhere. Why would they want to live in a dysfunctional state like California or Illinois? They’re heading for red states along with African refugees the regime is importing to completely destabilize and Cloward-Piven them.

      • Ike Eichenberg

        Many choose the states with the best benefits. If we aren’t going to deport them, I support these leftist states welcoming them.

        • DonHonda

          But then the Federal Govt. will eventually be paying those benefits or the largest proportion of it.

          • Ike Eichenberg

            Yes, but minimizing the impact on the electoral college is about the best we can hope for unless something drastic happens to the republican party platform.

  • antiquesunlight

    “Commitment to abide by New York laws and uphold the state constitution.”

    This is just too funny. Yeah, the people who have been illegally residing in your state and probably breaking all kinds of other laws are going to be real committed to your laws and constitution. What a joke.

    • r j p

      Agreed. States may not vote against homosexual marriage, but they can legalize immigration.
      .
      Meanwhile helicopters are flying over Michigan Ave again.

    • Pro_Whitey

      Aren’t these the people who told us that immigration and naturalization were a federal preserve, and states could not interfere, even to assist the feds in enforcing laws on the books? That’s chutzpah for you!

  • Bossman

    State citizenship wouldn’t mean much because immigration is a federal matter. Such people could be arrested when they cross state lines.

  • Good. Let ALL the illegals go to New York and then we do as Barry Goldwater suggested. We saw off New York and let it drift out into the Atlantic.

    • MBlanc46

      Once they’ve become citizens, they can go anywhere in the country. But who would issue them passports, should they want them?

  • IstvanIN

    So a White person could NOT be a citizen of New York State since they are de jure citizens of the United States, I presume?

  • First, I thought states weren’t allowed to have separate immigration policies. That’s all we heard from the Jacks in the Box from the White House when they were arguing in the courts against Arizona’s immigration legislation.

    Second, I thought the 14th Amendment made citizenship a purely and exclusively Federal matter.

    Third, I thought only the Federal Congress had exclusive jurisdiction over “the uniform laws of naturalization.”

    Fourth, while in theory these NYS-only “citizens” won’t be able to vote in Federal elections, we all know that they will actually do that.

    Fifth, how can there only be 11 million illegal aliens in the country when there are three million in New York State alone?

    • r j p

      The other 8 million illegals are in the Chicago area.
      What are illegals called in California?

      • PvtCharlieSlate

        Democrats

      • Ringo Lennon

        I see them everyday here. There’s more than 8 million./sarc Traffic is hellish. no open spaces anymore. That’s why I’m always swearing under my breath.

    • MekongDelta69

      I thought states weren’t allowed to have separate immigration policies.

      They are NOT. But then again, you are not living in a democratic republic anymore. You are living in a dictatorship.

      • Dr. Möbias

        You are living in a strong-arm dictatorship and police state. Ditto for England, only worse.

    • MBlanc46

      I believe they could vote in federal elections, as the requirement for voting for Congress is being able to vote for the state legislature, and the states are allowed to determine how their electors for president are to be chosen.

    • Greg Thomas

      I’m certain we have 10 million illegal invaders in California alone.

  • Jesse James

    As a southerner I am good with setting a precedent that states have the power to determine their own state citizenship but I don’t think that this should have anything to do with national citizenship. Just because New York claims someone is a citizen doesn’t mean the rest of us should have to recognize them. Let’s cut the federal government by about 90% and return the power to the states.

    • blackjack322

      I agree.

      If New York is going to pick them up at the southern border an e-vac them to their damp, dark layers up north and give them citizenship then so be it. But the moment they try to cross into our territory they are immediately arrested and deported because we do not recognize their citizenship.

      Give the states more power than the federal government so they can decide their own laws. To hell with the Union.

  • DonReynolds

    New York is in violation of the Constitution. Congress shall make uniform rules of naturalization and immigration. These are powers specifically reserved for the Federal government and exercised by the Congress. This is unconstitutional.

    • Löwenmensch ᛟ

      The problem is the Constitution is a piece of paper with words, it gets amended and broken numerous times. federal employees take a oath to defend it, but break it

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        In Leviathan (1651), Thomas Hobbes writes:

        For the Lawes of Nature (as Justice, Equity, Modesty, Mercy, and (in summe) doing to others, as wee would be done to,) of themselves, without the terrour of some Power, to cause them to be observed, are contrary to our naturall Passions, that carry us to Partiality, Pride, Revenge, and the like. And Covenants, without the Sword, are but Words, and of no strength to secure a man at all.

  • MekongDelta69

    What’s that sucking sound I hear?…

    That’s the sound of all the remaining non-leftist Noo Yawkahs leaving Darth Vaders’ Empire State.

    In return, said Friedman’s group in a release, immigrants would get New York state citizenship, financial aid for higher education, health care, drivers’ licenses, professional licenses, the right to vote, the right to run for office, and protection against racial profiling.

    The ENTIRE thing is insane and illegal, but OF COURSE they HAD to throw in the fact that, “Hey, WE’LL protect YOU from those evil White legal citizens who may have nefarious ideas in their head.”

  • 4321realist

    Ship them to the urban centers in the same neighborhoods as blacks. The fighting will never stop. And Obama can watch his scheme transfer his “people” through the school to prison pipeline non stop.

    New York City needs about 10 million or so. That way the rainbow mayor there can wallow in the joys of diversity up close and personal.

    The black/brown mix has been so successful in California, with schools, jails, prisons and sometimes entire neighborhoods on lockdown due to rioting and fights, they need to experience those kinds of joys of diversity in all the urban centers.

    • Dr. Möbias

      Cultural marxists and limo lefties like DeBlasio in New York shield themselves from the diversity they demand YOU live and work in.

      I agree, however, that they should be forced to live in the multicultural hell they insist is so wonderful.

    • MikeofAges

      New York City is heading to 10 million. The city is at 8.5 million right not. Queens soon will pass Brooklyn as the largest borough.

  • ThomasER916

    You cannot love another people and not hate your people.
    You cannot help another people and not hurt your people.
    You cannot give to another people and not steal from your people.
    You cannot procreate with another people and not kill your people.

    Look at Cuomo’s wife and you’ll see he broke the commandments of Whites.

  • IKUredux

    WOW, Arizona tried to enact laws that did nothing more than mirror Federal Laws, and they got shot down. Whites of what used to be America, please note this. Frankly, this country is no longer interested in having us as citizens. It’s time we MOVED ON. Stop filing your income taxes. Engage only in cash transactions, or quid pro quo. Destroy your credit cards. Only give your business to your fellow Whites. Do not patronize “ethnic restaurants”.(If you like a certain ethnic cuisine, look up the recipes and make it yourself.) As a side note: Biden was correct about his comments about Dunkin Donuts, they are all run by Indians, how the hell did that happen? No, really? How did it? It can’t be a freaking coincidence that all these Hindus ended up with Dunkin Donut franchises. These people can barely speak English. What? No single solitary White person had any interest in being a Dunkin Donuts franchisee? All the ones by my house have all been taken over by Hindus. Previously, they were run by Whites. I’m serious, what the hell happened? Oh, and by the way, the previous White owner had Blacks and Whites as employees. The new Hindu owner, only has Hindus working there. How are they able to get away with this? As a matter of fact, all the Chinese places only have Chinese employees, and, all the Arab convenience stores, only have Arab employees! How on earth are they allowed to engage in this BLATANT DISCRIMINATION against everybody who does not comport with their own ethnic group? If Whites were to engage in this in your face discrimination, they would be sued, and hounded out of business. When will some homos try to make a Muslim bakery provide a wedding cake? I’m gonna go with never. The goal is to eliminate all vestiges of White civilization, particularly, those based on Christianity.

    • Dr. Möbias

      Don’t you know that any business, workplace, school, neighborhood or area that is:

      100% Hindu, Indian, Arab, Mexican, black, Jewish = Diverse.

      100% White = Nazi, xenophobic, hateful, bigoted and targeted for diversity.

      That’s exactly how it works now.

  • blackjack322

    Ahhh I see. So the feds will ship all the immigrants from southern states up north to their layers and make “state” laws that gives them citizenship.

    Fine. If that’s how they want to do it then southern states can simply pass their own “state” law that does not acknowledge those peoples citizenship and bar them from entry.

  • Dale McNamee

    From the article :

    ” The New York legislation, titled “New York is Home Act,” sets requirements for immigrants to meet before they can apply for citizenship with New York’s Office for New Americans, created by Gov. Andrew Cuomo:

    • Proof of identity.

    • Proof of three years of New York state residency.

    • Proof of three years of New York state tax payments.

    • Commitment to abide by New York laws and uphold the state constitution.

    • A willingness to serve on New York juries and to continue to pay state taxes.

    In return, said Friedman’s group in a release, immigrants would get New York state citizenship, financial aid for higher education, health care, drivers’ licenses, professional licenses, the right to vote, the right to run for office, and protection against racial profiling.”

    The illegals already failed bullet #4, “abiding by New York laws and uphold the state constitution”… If they did, they wouldn’t be in New York…

    And if they obeyed US laws, they wouldn’t here…

    And they are rewarded for doing so… ” New York state citizenship, financial aid for higher education, health care, drivers’ licenses, professional licenses, the right to vote, the right to run for office, and protection against racial profiling”…

    You can substitute US Citizenship for New York State Citizenship…

    Why do we have laws in the first place when our governments disregard them ?

  • Peter Connor

    States can’t award citizenship.

  • MikeofAges

    Let’s not forget. A powerful argument for the Electoral College. The EC confines the illegality of one state to that state. The founders, more likely, were thinking of the idea that in some given state a political party would use its control of the instruments of government to establish a one-party state.

    How could you have direct election of the president and vice president without enforced uniform voting standards? Ain’t gonna happen anyway. You need 2/3 of each house and 38 states to amend the constitution.

  • Ringo Lennon

    I’m all for every illegal alien going to New York. Let those politicians face the heat from the folks.

  • kikz2

    gee if NY is going to actually track their paid taxes through an ID#, you’d think they’d also track how many of those BILLIONS in fake refunds and child tax exemptions are being sent back to Mex….. and do something about it other than shrug.
    http://watchdog(dot)org/111791/irs-pays-illegals-4-2-billion/