As America Ages, Generational Gap Between Whites and Minorities Widens

Don Lee, Los Angeles Times, June 26, 2014

As the U.S. population ages and becomes more racially diverse, the country is seeing a widening demographic gap between older whites and young minorities–a shift with significant social and economic implications for the future.

Non-Hispanic white Americans made up almost 79% of the country’s population of people older than 65 years old as of last July, but the white share of residents under 15 years of age slipped further to 51.8%, according to an analysis of new Census Bureau data released Thursday. By comparison, Latinos accounted for 7.5% of people in the U.S. over 65, but almost 25% of those under 15.

The large population gains of Latino and other minority youth mean nonwhites will not only have more voting clout in the years ahead but also constitute the labor force of tomorrow.

Yet this racial generational gap, which is particularly large in California and the Southwest, also points up the potential challenges as the U.S. relies on younger minorities to pick up the slack of an aging nation, including supporting social programs for a mostly white senior population.

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The economy also is a major factor behind the changes in immigration. The nation’s foreign-born population grew by 843,145 people from 2012 to 2013, down about 5% from the previous 12-month period, according to the census data. The drop came mostly from Latinos, whose immigrant population growth has been overtaken by Asians in the last two years.

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In fact, the number of Asian immigrants in the U.S. rose by 337,587 last year, up 6% from 2012. That was the primary reason Asians were the fastest-growing racial group last year. Between July 2012 and July 2013 the Asian population in the U.S. increased by almost 2.9% to 19.4 million.

That compares with a population growth rate of 2% for Latinos during the same period, to 54.1 million as of last July; and an increase of 1% for blacks, to 41.6 million.

Non-Hispanic whites still constitute the majority of the nation’s population at 62.6%, but their numbers barely changed last year, at 197.8 million.

Madeleine Sumption, an economist and research director at the Migration Policy Institute’s international program, says two big factors are behind the relatively rapid gains in the Asian population: a surge of Chinese foreign students over the last decade, some of whom are staying on to work after graduating; and the growing ranks of professionals from India, who are receiving about two-thirds of the so-called H-1B work visas.

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  • MekongDelta69

    We are becoming a land of old whites and young non-whites.”

    And the Los Angeles Times couldn’t be happier about that.

    • Manaphy

      Same with the unmentionable people who run the LA Times.

    • propagandaoftruth

      The great veiled threat to the new Jews…

      You will soon be a minority in your own land and will be made slaves to blacks and browns under our perverted mob rule “democracy”.

  • HJ11

    Let me state the obvious: Whites need to have more White children and this is an individual responsibility for each of us. I get tired of hearing half-dead Whites saying they couldn’t find the right mate. Baloney. Focus on having children, not on the mate. As long as the person who helps you spread your DNA code is White just do it.

    • Bossman

      So any ugly hag will do as long as she can still bear children? Who would want to do that?

      • HJ11

        Anyone who wants to survive his death and send his genes into the future would do that rather than just die childless and become extinct.

    • wildfirexx

      The ambitious white females are just not interested in having lots of children anymore at an early age, because most are more interested in their careers and their new found sex life. (thanks to the birth control pill)
      Once they settle down into their 30’s and their maternal instinct kicks in, it’s too late to have more than 1 or 2 kids maximum, sometimes none.
      Meanwhile, the illiterate housewives on welfare, and the recent poor immigrants from the third world who are producing are future generation, are genetically lowering our standards in North America and other parts of the western world to a much dumber generation in the future!

      • Mary

        There are those of us out there who still have several children, despite waiting until our thirties. I just turned forty, and I had three in my thirties. I’m considering having one more. In my area, I know of a number of others who are in a similar situation.
        But yeah, way too many wait too long and barely crank out one or two (or none.) And way,way too many on the lower end of the spectrum significantly overproduce. As long as this is the reality, our society will continue to decline.

        • HJ11

          Good for you for having children and for having at least one more, but why stop with one if you’re healthy?

          And, we needn’t worry about Whites “at the bottom of the spectrum.” Any Whites are good and are needed. It is non-Whites who are not needed.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            “Good for you for having children and for having at least one more, but why stop with one if you’re healthy?”

            HJ11, how many kids do you have?

          • HJ11

            Many.

        • NoName

          That reminds me of Fred Phelps’ wife. She didn’t have her first child until age 27, and she still managed to pop out 13 kids- all singular births, no twins or anything.

          • HJ11

            Many.

        • Ella

          Two children is better than zero. Not all couples have babies survive such as multiple miscarriages even at young maternal age and may end up with less children than they have anticipated from other health problems. I think if couples reach two taking account the conditions both in Europe and US they did well, but the real problems are the 2 or 3 siblings who have no children. This puts more demands onto the couple with children.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Great posts from both Mary and Ella. Ella, I agree that the people who have none at all are the real concern, but I just don’t see very many women who go through life and don’t have any kids at all. Even liberal women seem to get married at some point along the line and produce at least one or two.

            We do seem to have lots of bachelors though, who have never married, as well as single divorced women who have 2 to 3 children, and all that is in relation to other societal issues all together.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            It comes down to this CourtneyfromAlabama. Women usually complain not about the fact they are finding men, they complain about not finding the men they want to be with. Men on the other hand, complain about not finding ANY women who will give them the time of day. What I am saying is many white men find there’s no available white women for them, that is those who are not already taken or otherwise disinterested in them. There are areas where the demographics are skewed against white men severely, an others where the reverse is true. It’s a lot harder for a man to get women’s attention than the other way around. Moreover, after years of trying and being rejected or otherwise discovering the women he meets are wrong numbers, some men like me get fed up and no longer bother. Success is not guaranteed in this world. and some men just have a terrific run of luck, all bad. This is probably an over-simplification of a multi-faceted problem but it describes the problem in a nutshell.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Please understand that my above post was simply in response to another poster who was taking on the alarmist view that “there aren’t enough women having babies”. My post wasn’t meant to pick on the men who can’t get women.

            When responding to the other poster, I was simply stating that I don’t come across many women at all who go through life without producing 1 child, if that is the issue we want to focus on. I then mentioned other problems that we should also be focusing on in our society.

            All that aside, good points.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Just pointing out that men and women who are childless are that way for very different reasons. This is a growing problem that has to be addressed now. Anytime there’s a large number of alienated men without prospects economically or for forming families, you have the makings of political and religious extremism, chaos and violence. That is precisely why many Muslim nations are as unstable and violent as they are, these jihadis have nothing at all to look forward to other than being disposable people. That is the last thing whites need in their own lands, because if the history of the Ukrainians teaches us anything, infighting amongst ourselves in the face of real threats from racial outsiders can only lead to tragedy, or worse.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Fair enough, but I have something else I want to add that I didn’t mention before in response to you. I am not sure I agree that most single white men are that way because they can’t get women at all.

            As I have expressed to you before, you are one of the few on here who is reasonable in your complaints. I see plenty of other complaints from other men however, where they go into detailed lists about what they want in a woman and then they complain that they can’t find it.

            I saw one man complain that too many white women are fat, but then in his profile picture, he himself was fat.

            Another man on here claimed that there aren’t enough good moral white women left, but then in a previous discussion I saw him complaining that too many white women are uptight about giving him sex when he wants it.

            I think you make a lot of good points about how it is harder for single white men than single white women. But from my perspective, I see a great deal of absurd complaining going on from both sexes, and that to me, is a huge part of the problem, as opposed to the fact that “there just aren’t enough good white men or women left”. Too many people are setting their standards too high without being willing to change themselves.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Indeed unrealistic expectations is probably where the enmity between white men and women starts. If we are going to raise our birthrates, we need to start teaching the young what expectations are realistic, and what expectations are not. That starts by turning off the G*d D*^%$* television.

          • Sick of it

            I’ve found that it can be hard to find someone after even setting a minimal bar. The ‘everything goes’ society is quite disgusting.

          • SoulInvictus

            I’ve found the options end up being
            A. young, attractive, but incredibly stupid and likely to cheat. (also, broke.)
            B. past or nearly past child bearing prime, but traditional, smart, financially established, and (somewhat) loyal. (also, unattractive or waning.)
            C. In between A/B, but fat. Usually, really fat.

            Those are not good options.

          • Sick of it

            I’ve found really nice divorcees with children by other men…its own can of worms.

          • HJ11

            Look to Eastern Europe. Many beautiful, young White women there who could help reinvigorate the Western European gene pool.

          • SoulInvictus

            As of 2008, approximately 60% of non hispanic white women 18+y.o. are overweight. And “Overall, 36.1 percent of women aged 25 and older were obese in 2005–2008”
            http://mchb.hrsaDOTgov/whusa10/hstat/hi/pages/215oo.html

            Yes, that’s too many.

            I’m not saying the men aren’t as well (more are actually), but fat men aren’t my problem as I’m not dating them.
            More than a few times I’ve had to come out and say, “sorry but I don’t date someone heavier than I am”.
            And that’s pretty generous considering I’m around 190lb.

          • M.

            I never introduced any of my girlfriends to my mother. My father didn’t allow to me bring girls homes because he used to tell me, “You’re not getting pregnant in my house!” Fair enough. We never talked about my romantic relations either, which I really appreciated.

            It also remained that way when I moved away from home. When I got engaged, I called my mother and told I was getting married. She said, “To whom?” I said, “To a girl.” “Great.”

            Today, I live far from home, but I’m planning on taking my fiancée visit the folks as my mother kept insisting. She’s a little eccentric but I’m sure she’s gonna behave. She’s also secretive and polite in a neighbory way with her own folks, just like me.

          • SoulInvictus

            My experience has been almost identical to what you described.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I don’t see above where I blamed men (in regards to your last sentence). I am just pointing out that there is a lot of complaining from both sexes and not enough self examination on how to improve ourselves as individuals.

          • M.

            I do agree that not all the blame should be put on women. I’m sure most women would be glad to have many children if their man was wealthy.

            The problem today is that most upper- and upper-middle-class white people who could repopulate the world with their money do not. They end up having 2 or 3.

          • Ella

            I wanted more children but my husband had his self-important pursuits. There is a walk and a leap to start a family. If I knew he would delay our family building, I would not have married him. It is so important to be honest with people that you love when you make lifelong agreements. Now, I feel disappointed with him.

          • M.

            I know it differs from one person to another, but having children is for most people the one of the most fulfilling pursuit one takes in life. Watching them grow, succeed in their studies, their work, have children themselves. Maybe you should try and get him to see things from that angle.

          • Sick of it

            Men can get women, often rather easily, but it’s hard to find someone for a long-term relationship. Even more so for a lifelong marriage. That’s what white people need at this point in order for us to survive.

          • HJ11

            No. Wht White people need is to have more White children. Everything else is secondary.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I would say it is pretty hard for many white women as well. Our culture currently has a sickness right now.

          • The one thing I’ve seen lately about women that has me smiling is more women
            at the shooting ranges . . . . .use to be I met women at the store, Church or thru friends. To see women at the range opens the door to another commonality, and motivation to go and practice with weaponry .

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            I’ve noticed that too, though more often than not in the company of their husbands or boyfriends, sometimes with their kids.

          • Either way . .it’s a good thing to see the fairer sex preparing for
            what seems to be coming …

          • Geo1metric

            …which is, in itself, a good thing.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Indeed. They won’t be easy victims because they can shoot these black and brown b******s stupid enough to threaten their persons with death or bodily harm. Blacks and browns are cowards, they prefer helpless victims to those who can send them to their maker with their faces and other body parts too shot off literally.

          • Sick of it

            The modern dating scene is very strange for a conservative Christian. I was talking to a woman in a store a few weeks ago. We hit it off very well. She flirted with me for over an hour…and then talked about her boyfriend. They all seem to have boyfriends today and, usually, are in a sexual relationship with them. That’s not the kind of woman I’m looking for and…there’s the problem. May the Hippies burn in hell for all eternity…they certainly deserve it for having destroyed our people.

          • SoulInvictus

            The way it works now… either due to the state of society or maybe it’s just the new way relationships work, you’re almost guaranteed to have to insinuate yourself into and destroy an existing relationship to gain a woman.
            I can’t say whether that reflects a total collapse of decency or merely a hyper competitive mating scene, or both.
            And even among married people (sub 50yo) I’ve known, it’s still a given that they’re really only kinda-sorta off the market. Why would anyone sign on to marriage if it’s going to be perpetual dating, with endless concerns of infidelity and poaching, and no legal or social pressure to protect men from the ensuing damage.
            Marriage as an institution has been gutted and replaced with some weird de facto open marriage concept. People may say they don’t view it that way, but divorce and multiple divorce statistics say otherwise.

          • Sick of it

            There’s no doubt that Robert Heinlein would be exceedingly happy in today’s America. His wife too…

          • SoulInvictus

            For all their supposed, much hyped independence, I can’t remember the last time I met a woman that had a lengthy period (5+minutes) between “relationships”.
            Not one that wasn’t 200lbs. or otherwise dating impaired anyway.
            Overlap seems to be the general rule now. Which is just plain gross when you think it through for a bit.
            It’s akin to living in a nation of prostitutes. Which is why I had a chuckle at Courtney’s post above about the man complaining about there not being enough moral women.

          • Whitetrashgang

            Overweight hookers who have probably been with a HIV positive back guy. I might add.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            This is the second time you have responded to that post of mine (or referenced it), completely missing the entire point as to why I wrote it. Go up and read my response to you after the first time you responded to my post. I was obviously criticizing the white people of both sexes who complain about the opposite sex while not improving themselves. I don’t see how most of your responses to me have had anything to do with my original point. If you aren’t a fat man who complains about fat women, then the post doesn’t apply to you. If you are a moral man looking for moral women only, then the post doesn’t apply to you.

          • SoulInvictus

            “This is the second time you have responded to that post of mine”
            Because you usually post juicy or interesting items for discussion.

            “completely missing the entire point”
            I didn’t miss the point. I just have a completely different vantage point of the culture war and disagree on topics concerning women.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I had a few boyfriends in my past who dumped me for being a virgin. I was too traditional for them. Our race as a whole is messed up when it comes to this topic. You are right. Our current modern culture is harsh for Christians.

          • SoulInvictus

            “…a few boyfriends in my past who dumped me for being too traditional for them. Either that or for being too “racist””

            That’s one of the saddest things I’ve ever read. But you’re better off for it.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Nah, it isn’t sad. As you say in your second sentence……I am better off because of it. Thanks. I was just mirroring Sick of it’s post, giving some further examples of the current moral decay in our society, that goes across both sexes.

          • SoulInvictus

            It’s definitely a sad commentary about the state of things.
            Being “Too traditional” and racially conscious in favor of your own kind detracting from your value to suitors, that paints a pretty pathetic picture of the men you’ve dealt with and illuminates why some of your views are as skewed, in your own way, as mine.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I agree. But I don’t let it dirty my view of white men in general. I think very positively of white men. That is why I get irritated with the negative comments on here about white women. I understand why white men are angrier, simply because the system is against them much more so than for white women. But they should be mad at the system and not women.

            As far as the quality of people are concerned, I see imperfections equally in both sexes. But I still think there are plenty of good people out there for the whites who really want to, to be able to mate still. And as I was hinting at above, even the fat ones, can mate with other fat ones.

            But I have already discussed this with you before. I don’t want to get into it again.

          • SoulInvictus

            ” But they should be mad at the system and not women.”
            Oh, we have vast reservoirs of anger.;)
            It kind of comes with the testosterone (that and being endlessly screwed by our own).

            “But I still think there are plenty of good people out there for the whites who really want to, to be able to mate still.”
            I agree. Just not necessarily in the US. It’s reached a tipping point here on many fronts, obesity and leftist indoctrination being the most visible.

            “But I have already discussed this with you before. I don’t want to get into it again.”
            True enough.

          • HJ11

            I suspect you may never find your perfect mate, because you seem to be too full of false morality. Study nature and you’ll understand that natural laws also apply to us humans.

        • Nevsky

          God bless you! In Eastern Europe most girls start having kids in their early 20s.

          • HJ11

            Good! I want a few of them for my wives. Nature doesn’t care at all about man made morality. Nature has set time clocks within us so that we can multiply our numbers. Man, in his arrogance, has ignored the natural clocks and has made artificial ones. We need a new morality, one that is based on nature’s laws.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            You say you want “wives” as in plural?

            With all due respect, I don’t see how some of the men on here are supposed to be able to reproduce like you would like for them to, if we have polygamy going on.

          • Geo1metric

            Polygamy is a natural answer to some problems. You confuse Man’s law with Natural Law when you ridicule polygamy.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Ask the single men on here who have a hard enough time finding a wife, how they feel about polygamy.

          • SoulInvictus

            It sounds like fun initially, but dealing with not one but multiple women’s moods and jealousies, that’s asking for a life of pure hell.
            Polygamy is even more incompatible with modern mindsets than traditional marriage, and that’s saying something.

          • Sick of it

            It didn’t work out too well for Abraham. He was thrilled at first, I’m sure, and then it rapidly went downhill.

          • SoulInvictus

            I’ve known some people personally that were poly.
            Usually it follows a pattern of great sex (6 months-year tops) followed by increasing friction and jealousy until implosion.
            There’s no way you can maintain it without highly submissive women and a religious component. Neither of which is prevalent today.

            I don’t think it’s wrong morally (and how could anyone that claims the Old Testament is authored by God), but in our society, it simply isn’t feasible for the long term.
            That said, I never have understood the illegality of it. In a supposedly “Judeo-Christian” culture that not only regards OT figures highly, but allows same sex marriage. Polygamy among consenting adults will be back on the table in the near future in the wake of gay marriage.

          • Sick of it

            I am amazed that every Christian group stuck with the Catholic position re: polygyny, but they did kill off other, older Christian groups which allowed it. I haven’t heard of any modern Jewish group which allows it either. Sometimes it makes me wonder what most pious people think when they read the Old Testament.

          • Whitetrashgang

            When gay marriage is legal marrying a farm animal is just around the corner.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I am surprised you have anything positive to say about it at all. The main reason most men on here should be against it is because it would make the available female population even more scarce.

          • SoulInvictus

            I agree wholeheartedly. Specifically because it would gobble up exactly the demographic of women that would be desirable.
            That definitely goes in the Con column against it.

          • HJ11

            It’s not about fun. It’s about having as many White children as possible. A woman gets pregnant and has one child in nine months. A man can impregnate many women a day. Why should he be out of business for nine months? Nature has made men so they are not out of business for nine months. Don’t deny nature and nature’s ways.

          • SoulInvictus

            Anyone who says it isn’t at least partly about the fun factor, is just plain lying. Polygamy combines a good compromise of varied sexual experience in single life with the safety and family of marriage.
            But I’d maintain it simply isn’t feasible for the vast majority of people in the modern world. Female economic independence, leftist thought conflicting with feminine submissive instinct, demise of religion, lessened focus on family, they’re all completely incompatible with polygamy.
            You’re more likely to see widespread polyandry accepted and practiced as masculinity declines and female promiscuity is elevated.

          • HJ11

            I repeat: It’s not about fun. It’s about having as many children as possible. And, I’ll add, it’s also not about love, but about having as many children as possible. And, I don’t care about the “vast majority of people.” They’re the herd and I long ago left the herd.

          • SoulInvictus

            And I’ll repeat, that’s a lie.
            Solomon didn’t have seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines, merely to crank out more descendants.

            At a certain point, unless fantastically Romney wealthy, you screw over your progeny by lessening the financial advantage you can provide them over their rivals. It has diminishing returns.

            “I don’t care about the “vast majority of people.” They’re the herd”
            If most people are going to be unable or unwilling to do it due to the reasons I cited above, then it either doesn’t matter or would have negligible effect. So, no point in pursuing it as a measure to change demographics (which is the “herd”). Which seemed to be what you were stating as the purpose, since it’s not simply for your own pleasure and all.
            If you can swing it, knock yourself out. As I said before, I don’t see it as morally wrong among consenting adults.

          • HJ11

            No, it’s not a lie. What do you think you are, a mind reader? And, who the hell put you in charge of knowing what I think? Looking at your other comments, it seems that you are hung up on sex. That’s your problem, not mine. I say Whites need to do what is necessary to multply our kind, and I say we should do it consciously. That means we set out to do it.

            The fact that sex is pleasurable, should be secondary to making more like ourselves. Why? Because when we focus on sex as pleasure, we then often become too picky in our mates and/or seek birth control measures to avoid making more like ourselves while just having the pleasure. This is a formula for extinction.

          • Whitetrashgang

            Yeah so true getting nagged at 24-7 would not make up for all the rest. Unless both worked 60 hour weeks.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            It doesn’t sound fun to me either. As a woman, I would hate to be in a polygamous relationship as well, dealing with the other women’s jealousies.

          • SoulInvictus

            And that is precisely why it doesn’t work.
            Women are too independent now in every way to make it viable.
            There are lots of arguments as to why it would actually be a better situation (multiple incomes in times of economic hardship, delegated childcare, lowered infidelity, parental redundancy, etc), but you’d have to rewind the clock on feminism, life expectancy, and divorce.

            I thought the show Big Love actually did a decent job at illustrating how that would play out today.

            That’s kind of what the guy that brought it up didn’t get about what I was saying.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I am confused by what you are implying. I think my attitude towards polygamy is normal and healthy. There is nothing independent or feminist about it.

            I am still confused about why you have good things to say about polygamy. It makes the female population even more scarce for many suitors. It is the last thing most men on here should want, especially after reading most of the complaints.

          • SoulInvictus

            Like most things, it isn’t black and white (pun intended).
            There are some good aspects about it. In a different era, I could see it being done well and even being beneficial (women with shorter lifespans, greater need for family provided manual labor on farms, disproportionate number of females in population, etc).

            Really, you could say the practice has continued on, but now it’s only acceptable serially. How many people do you know that have remarried, repeatedly, spawning each time? That’s just polygamy with some gaps in timing and all positive aspects removed.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Fair enough. I just wanted clarification on your “independent and feminist” comment.

            Advocating a one man and one woman policy is very civilized and healthy, and I thought that was what most men on here wanted. It is what separates our civilization in its pure form from all others.

            And even if polygamy was advocated in the OT, it is completely antagonistic to what Jesus Christ later preached about for healthy male and female relationships.

          • SoulInvictus

            Having never been married or bearing children and dealing with all that entails, relationship advice is the one area I don’t give Jesus as a philosopher much credibility on. I don’t think he ever claimed the omniscience of the father, so it would all be speculation on his part no matter how well intentioned. And actually… his view would directly contradict what his father laid out as acceptable for his own people earlier.

            That said, monogamy would seem to be very European in nature to me. It seems to be how we are biologically wired and that’s one of the reasons, as I mentioned in a different post, that the current climate is particularly toxic to our version of society.
            The pressures and tensions against that bond are almost insurmountable now, as evidenced by the divorce rate.

          • HJ11

            Polygamy works fine among most who practice it. And, those who do practice it are multiplying.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            I detest polygamy, and it makes society unstable, violent and prone to tyranny.

          • HJ11

            We need a new morality based on what is best for our survival and expansion as the unique subspecies of human that we are. If polygamy allows ME to have more children (who will have my DNA code) then this is what is moral for me. Others may choose to be childless or limit the number of children they have. Give it several hundred years and it’ll be my DNA code in the form of my descendants who will be dancing on their graves. Ask then who won the struggle for survival. Ask then who did the right and good thing. Ask then who followed nature’s ways and laws.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            It allows YOU to have more children. What about the men on here who have a hard enough time finding a mate? I thought you were telling everyone on here that they need to reproduce. Polygamy will hinder that for a lot of men.

          • HJ11

            I can only take care of myself and I expect others to do the same for themselves. No one rides for free in nature. If other Whites can’t or won’t multiply their DNA, for whatever reason, then they’ll go extinct. That’s not my problem. However, my altruism* for my kind causes me to want to at least try to awaken other Whites (hopefully, via reason) to the fact that what is important in life is for Whites to multiply. My belief is that there are many Whites who are simply half-asleep due mainly to societal conditioning. I can only try to deprogram them with my words.

            *And, this is not truly altruism because the more Whites there are in existence, the more likely is my DNA code to survive.

      • HJ11

        With all due respect, most of us understand that various groups of Whites, such as “ambitious white females” are not having children, but my point is that it is an individual responsibility for each of us to have children. And, doing so isn’t just some altruistic move on our part to fill in the gaps left by Whites who refuse to have children, it is for our own–me and you–benefit to have children and have our DNA code survive our death.

        “True love, soul mate, beautiful person,” are all nice, but don’t wait for perfection. On a survival level we must look at others almost as tools to allow us to expand our personal DNA code. And we do this by having as many children who are as much like us as possible.

        • kjh64

          I don’t think that every single person should have kids. If a person is messed up or truly doesn’t want kids, they shouldn’t have kids, as it is unfair to the kid.

          • HJ11

            We have a different outlook. To me, life always trumps no live and existence always trumps non-existence. And, unfair to the kid? The kid has life and has a chance. Some of our greatest people came from “unfair” circumstances and some of our do-nothings came from plush surroundings.

            White life will out in the end if it is just brought into existence. This I believe.

          • Mike Lane

            I must say, you’re right. Some of the greatest minds came from nothing. Perhaps the harsher the struggle the more they will succeed. “What doesn’t kill me makes me stronger.” You can’t get stronger if you live in a plush surrounding.

      • kjh64

        Well, I don’t see the White males wanting to have lots of children at an early age either. Many White men are selfish and want to sleep around/and or have their sex life and don’t want commitment or any responsibility or kids. We can give thanks to the “boys will be boys” mantra that was created by men to excuse themselves up. I find White women, more than men, want marriage and commitment. Men can blame marriage laws, so can women, but the bottom line is if you’re not willing to commit and have a family, whatever your reason, don’t blame women for having fewer kids.

        • HJ11

          Marriage including traditional marriage aren’t required to have children. We need a new morality. The old one is causing our extinction.

          • Sick of it

            If we do not raise our children (and properly) they will act more like the blacks than like us.

          • HJ11

            No they won’t. Blacks act the way they do because of their genes. Whites act the way we do because of our genes.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            My reply (with link-so awaiting approval) to Courtney below is relevant to your comment.

          • SoulInvictus

            If there was an award for most courteous toned commenter on here (and maybe there should be), I’d consistently award it to you.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            Thank you for saying as much.

            You might be disappointed to know that in real life I am often neither prim nor proper.

            But since I try to actually communicate with people rather than talk at them or get talked at, I adjust my style for the context. I can get away with using a lot less restraint in person and I enjoy being gregarious so I do.

            That old truism applies:
            On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog. 😉

            I am impressed that you sustain conversations here, thank you (and everyone here, actually) for doing what I consider important work in making this site and it’s comment sections a refuge for those of us who would otherwise be very alienated in their very existence. I am assuming, since you live in the south, you are not alone in holding your views. For those of us who are not so favored by fortune, the forum is the difference between hope and despair or sanity and well, a degradation of mental hygiene at least.

          • M.

            No, they won’t. Many great white people had really messed-up childhoods. Steve Jobs is one of them.

          • Sick of it

            Children from broken homes tend to be broken people. If we want a functional society, we must raise our children properly. I speak from experience, not prejudice.

          • HJ11

            I don’t care about society. I care about White people. I want the planet absolutely teeming with Whites.

          • SoulInvictus

            That, I have to upvote.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            Seconded.

          • Robert Haschberg

            Steve Jobs wasnt even white, he was an assyrian.

          • M.

            Well, half Assyrian. The point is that he turned out fine.

          • Nevsky

            They already do. There are hundreds of thousands of white kids who denounce their parents for being so “racist and unfair” toward non-whites.

            I personally met a few whites who were telling me how horribly racist their parents are.

            One older pro-white man told me about his daughter who went to a collage just to graduate a brainwashed Liberal. “And I financed it!” he exclaimed.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            How much time that man might have spent on his daughter to counteract the effects of popular culture in her development!

            It is far from easy for us to reproduce. Those who beat the drum for ‘filling the world with us’ overlook this.

          • Sick of it

            Really think about what that man did and wonder at why he was surprised. Would he be surprised if his son turned gay after he allowed him to wear dresses for years?

          • HJ11

            No they won’t. Not if they don’t have black genes.

          • SoulInvictus

            They already do. Fatherless homes go a long way towards accomplishing that.

          • NoName

            White people are miserable enough as it is. We don’t need even more unstable upbringings to only increase unhappiness and anti-social behavior.

          • HJ11

            I’m White and I’m not miserable. And, we don’t have to worry about “unstable upbringings” among Whites. Our genes will win out, if we just multiply as nature intends us to.

            But your whole post is negative. You say Whites are “miserable” and that we have “unhappiness” and “anti-social behavior.” Perhaps, you need to look inward to see why you have such negative feelings about Whites.

          • NoName

            Blacks and Hispanics report higher levels of happiness and have a lower suicide rate than white people. In high school, it was so common to hear white kids talk about being unhappy with their life, even to the point of being suicidal. There were a lot of black students and I can’t recall even one incident of one speaking like that. Same with Hispanics- when they were speaking English at least. Rampant babymaking will result in more single-parent homes, and mentally unhealthy drug-using offspring. A people can’t be of high-quality with a culture like that. The figures prove it.

            White people may be much more civilized than black people, but not as much as you are making them out to be. I don’t know what kind of culture you grew up in, but I know that dysfunctional behavior is rampant among blue-collar Southern whites.

          • HJ11

            I would suggest that part of the problems you describe are a result of too many Whites being alienated from their true selves and have feelings of worthlessness similar to what the American Indians experienced when Great White Mother Whites and Great White Father Whites forced them to give up their own genetically determined cultural standards.

            We have to become authentically White again and we have to love being White. It starts with each one of us loving ourselves and seeking our own individual happiness, knowing that we are unique individuals from a subspecies of unique individuals (note, I prefer “subspecies” to “race,” because we are more than a race).

          • NoName

            Having a strong grasp on your identity is an ingredient for healthy self-esteem, but I think that depression and suicide go hand in hand with high IQ when life gets tough. Asians have a high suicide rate as well- even higher than that of whites IIRC.

        • Ella

          I agree. Some men love their materialism more than having a family. It is NOT always women. Many women would have had 3 children if men had their priorities in order before 40 (Alcohol abusing; spend-thrifts; player; sports fanatics). Today, adolescence for some males extend into their late 30’s! When dating, It was really hard for me (almost impossible) to meet a white man who wanted more than 1 or 2 children. Sadly, I only had two but I fought for more.

        • wildfirexx

          Not to discredit these beautiful white women who are willing to create more children for the next generation. And not to discredit their achievements and interest in furthering their education. But it’s the women who were designed to bear fruit (the children), not the men.
          In the last 2 generations, White Men have changed little. Still horny, still sports fanatics, still like to get drunk and party. Yes some are a little more responsible and child nurturing, but for the most part they are still just men. Willing to go to War if necessary, or bring home the bacon and support their traditional family.
          But it’s the Women who have changed the most, (mainly because the birth control pill has allowed them to). I don’t blame the women I blame the introduction of the birth control pill.
          We didn’t have all these needy social programs two generations ago. We didn’t need two incomes to make ends meet. Most White Women were content in having 3 to 5 children per family. It seems to me Marriages and families were a lot happier back then.
          And we didn’t need all these new immigrants to fill our jobs and keep the economy going. We reproduced enough offspring on our own.

          • Whitetrashgang

            So true the men were and are still pigs it just the woman changed and are now too.Also try and find a decent white woman who isn’t taken, got ten years or want to start dating 14 year olds?

          • Nevsky

            True that, many pro-whites encourage us to have more kids. But MOST of the white girls I’ve met were hard-core anti-racist Liberal Marxists.

            Why in the world would I want to have a family with a girl like that?

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Women are simply a product of the culture that creates them. It doesn’t make much sense to blame white women by themselves for why not enough whites are mating. If too many white women are liberal, then what does that say about our culture in general?

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I like this post much better than your first one, because here you are explaining yourself better. In the first one it sounded like you were only blaming women, which is what a lot of people do wrong on here.

            On top of the birth control pill I also blame this “entitlement to go to college” mentality that is so profuse in our middle to upper class white families. When a white female is born into a family that has been saving for her to go to college, do you really think she has a choice to say no at 18?

            That right there is a big part of the reason most women today (white women) aren’t having their first kid until 30.

          • Sick of it

            It’s not the only reason though, as women are taught to look down upon the wonderful vocation of motherhood (the vile post-modern ethos at play). Russia is filled with white race realists, yet they are a dying people, following current demographic trends.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I didn’t say it was the only reason. I am just offering more reasons than what has been offered on here.

            And I personally don’t think the reason you give is as big of a problem as people on here make it out to be. It is certainly a problem contributing (only partially) to delayed motherhood, but it most certainly isn’t keeping women from ever having babies in their lives. Most women do at some point (have babies).

          • Sick of it

            A birth rate under 2 is caused by human interference. Massive human interference (i.e. birth control pills). People in Eastern Europe used to think such activities were grossly immoral. More so than in the West.

          • SoulInvictus

            It’s like I cloned myself.
            I agree with everything (and wrote almost the same post above) except not blaming the women themselves.
            That whole “product of your culture” excuse only goes so far.
            Everyone on this site sub 60-70yo is a product of our culture as well.
            Yet, here we are despite it.
            Choice, and what conveniences cater to petty indulgences, play their part.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Another fine example of you taking something I said out of context. I never said women are free from blame. I am simply offering a more balanced response to the “let’s only blame women” argument that is so profuse on here. The constant whining is counterproductive and doesn’t solve any of our problems. There are many factors contributing to our problems as a people, and they go back pretty far.

          • SoulInvictus

            Pretty sure you’d never be able to find anything resembling
            “let’s only blame women” in anything I’ve ever posted.
            For some reason it’s merely come up more often of late than the general criticism of failure of white backbone and cohesive defense of self interests. Maybe it’s just easier to define so it lends itself well to the constraints of an online forum discussion.

            I simply refuse to let them off the hook for their role. Universal suffrage was the beginning of our decline as shown by the trajectory of history. White women have played a critical role as the useful idiots of the left. They are easily steered by sympathy and emotional arguments (to our detriment). Which is why they break Democrat in almost every election (to the betterment of our enemies).
            I don’t have a solution for it barring some calamity hitting the reset button for us, and there likely isn’t one.

            As you’d said in your own experience of finding a traditional mindset and racial loyalty hindering even an attractive woman’s plight in dating life, it’s exponentially worse on the other side.

            As always, infer a “present company excluded” and take posts like these with the appropriate grain of salt. If I could transfer yours and UsuallyMuchCalmer’s awareness into the minds of women at large, I certainly would.

            Maybe you two should start a similar site oriented specifically towards the feminine side of all this. I’d be willing to help with something like that. I like solutions, and agree with you that a lot of this only amounts to venting of frustrations, which isn’t very constructive.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I have never denied that women are irrational and emotional. I have always been very clear on the differences between the sexes. But all the more reason that this constant anger directed at women on here is pure silliness and counterproductive. To me, it is almost the same as blaming children for our current mess. We should mainly be upset with the weak male politicians who decided to give women all the rights in the first place, and the fact that our race has a long history of flirting with liberalism.

            In regards to voting, I don’t think women should be voting, but the fact remains that white women always vote within 10 percentage points different from white men. And most white women usually vote Republican even if it isn’t by as much of a margin as white men.

            And thanks for your compliments, but for the record, I don’t consider myself being in any sort of a “plight” when it comes to dating. I just wanted to share some of my dating history above to mirror the complaints about women. This is why I am not constantly proactively criticizing white men on here. All I do is come to the defense of white women at times, trying to offer a more balanced argument.

            Thanks overall for your polite response, and for the compliment directed towards UsuallyMuchCalmer and myself towards the end!

          • SoulInvictus

            “But all the more reason that this constant anger directed at women on here is pure silliness and counterproductive.”

            I’d be perfectly happy with a moratorium on the topic. It gets repetitive, quarrelsome, and tiresome quickly, and likely alienates the rare female visitor that might otherwise be a convert.

            “In regards to voting, I don’t think women should be voting”

            I’m ok with you voting, just not the vast majority that will never share your views or rationality. That’s always been the dilemma and unfortunately there’s no fixing it without addressing it with the broad brush. There’s no fixing it anyway, so it’s kind of like when people get bogged down in the WWII stuff here. Not productive.

            “Thanks overall for your polite response, and for the compliment directed towards UsuallyMuchCalmer and myself towards the end!”
            Nothing undeserved or an attempt to blow smoke up your skirt and swell your ego, you two are simply fine representations of what we’d like to see more of. Intelligent, not snowed by the left’s narrative, interesting, with a healthy amount of common sense regarding our situation in the world today.
            A few million more of you and we’d all be in a much better situation.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Nothing here that I disagree with. This is a nice ending to the “debate”. Maybe you aren’t the wise guy I always thought you were on here. You have been a perfect gentleman tonight. I actually thought you might react differently to some of my responses, but you have been calm and composed. Maybe I should stop confusing clever humor with anger, but it is hard to distinguish in writing.

            Thanks!

          • SoulInvictus

            I have my moments.;)

        • Nevsky

          It goes both ways. This whole please seeking culture and individualism undermined family values a lot.

          Men want to have fun, no strings attached. Women want to pursue their careers and be independent.

          We need a radical shift in consciousness. No idea how it going to happen, maybe after the economical collapse.

          • Sick of it

            We have to break out of this constructed system, both mentally and physically. The post-modern system, or New World Order if you prefer, must die if we are to survive. Those who constructed this system wanted to rid the world of humanity. They dream of becoming something more than human. They are madmen.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            “Those who constructed this system wanted to rid the world of humanity. They dream of becoming something more than human.”

            Would you care to elaborate?

          • Sick of it

            Ever heard of transhumanism? There are nutjob billionaires who believe they can become something akin to a god by merging with machines or via genetic engineering. The flesh has so many limitations, it’s ridiculous to even think that way.

            As far as ridding the world of humanity – We’ve seen the powers that be load up our environment with chemicals which have been proven to cause infertility over time. More so with each passing generation (specifically estrogen and estrogen-like compounds such as BPA). They have built nuclear power plants all over the globe. They are modifying the food that we eat in such a way that it is difficult for the human body to digest it and can cause liver/kidney damage over time (both of which are necessary for survival). They use radioactive materials in war. World food supplies have been centralized to the point where a few mega-corporations control most of the world’s food. People are being harassed by the alphabet agencies when trying to grow natural food on their own land. Farmers are being sued into bankruptcy when it is found that they have GMO crops on their land which belong to a major corporation (unintentional cross-pollination). GMO crops with terminator seeds are slowly but surely taking over natural crops via cross-pollination – Endgame there is a world without the crops we’ve developed over the course of thousands of years…except for the seeds the powers that be have stored in a secure location. I doubt the bee apocalypse is accidental, as bees are necessary for agriculture. One could mention the never-ending wars around the world, acts of terrorism, economic instability, etc. ad infinitum. These are heartless people who have stated (ala Bill Gates and the royals of Britain) that the world population needs to be drastically reduced, by 90% or more. Never trust a man who releases killer bees at his audience during a speech…

          • Usually Much Calmer

            I had not under that rubric heard of it.

            Your point of view (the conspiracy part) is new to me, but may explain why there are always links to stories involving Googleglass on Drudge.

            I cannot thank you enough for the short romp I just took through Wikipedia. I was familiar with some of Kurzweil’s work, but it is uncanny that I have been thinking myself along the same lines as that with which I was not familiar.

            That is all I will say about it. Thank you for the reply.

          • Sick of it

            There are so many books, news articles, etc. covering the subjects I barely touched on. There is so much out there for you to read. But in the end, simply watching everything come together, watching various big players buy into each other, seeing investors intermarry…I mean the “conspiracy” becomes obvious fact over time. These disparate forces may not have once worked together, but they sure as hell do now.

          • Geo1metric

            Sounds like you’ve read “SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION”.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Many of us whites are struggling just to keep our heads above water. We are discriminated against in the job market due to anti-white AA policies that favor unqualified blacks and browns. We are also passed over and denied promotions and advancements for the same reason. We have onerous college loans to pay back because our education wasn’t paid in full by the government, giving non-whites a huge advantage over whites in the housing market, etc. Try to access a SBL (small business loan) if you are white. You will be denied while generous amounts of money flows freely to blacks.

        It takes money, a lot of it, to live in a safe, white area where we can raise white children without having to worry about them getting beaten up by non-whites in the local parks or schools. Many of us know the risks and do not want to subject children to non-whites.

        It’s not that many of us don’t want children, it’s that we must limit the number we have due to finances. Who wants to raise a family where violent blacks are in close proximity or non-English speaking browns make up the majority at the local school? This is the reality of today’s world. Many of us cannot afford to live in child-safe areas.

        Non-whites are subsidized by the government to pump out as many non-productive, lifetime government welfare dependents as possible.

        • Ella

          For thousands of years, men have been taught to put away some wealth or money today to prepare to have future family. The modern male blows their money trying to score sex, live it up drinking, having expensive cars or whatever thrill-seeking hobby. Then, they whine incessantly how expensive it is to have family. I’ve just known so many middle class men who put off marriage and complain about the women, but these boyish males do not mature or ever get prepared. If they get married late, then, it becomes a high-risk marriage for divorce as they fail to adjust to fatherly roles and begrudge the responsibilities. I don’t believe all men behave like this and have known excellent white males who made sacrifices for their families without resentments. And yes, they had more children!

          No, culture once put much more pressure on men in earlier times for survival reasons within a community or even religious practices like the Amish does today with their peoples.

          • Mary

            This is so true.

      • Whitetrashgang

        I call it the Edward Vanhalen syndrome , white guy marries whore, whore screws around on him and they have one fat ADD kid. Most White woman are way to interested in being whores then having kids.Science by way of cloning ourselves is our only hope.The other was securing our borders which will not happen unless there is a civil war.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        I agree that the situation isn’t good. But there are a lot of factors in our society contributing to that. It isn’t all on the women.

        And I agree that too many (both male and female) are waiting too long due to finances, taxes, women having parents who make them go to college, etc…. etc…., but you are making it sound a little extreme in regards to all women who wait into their 30’s reaching a dismal genetic outcome. Some of the most stable marriages I have seen involve women marrying into their 30’s and they seem to have no problem producing 3 to 4 children.

        • kikz2

          …and most men don’t have good sense til at least 30, unless he’s unusually well bred, home/kids won’t be a high priority…… i’ve told my girls, they won’t have the time to piss around.. give the guy 6mos, if both of you don’t know you want to marry by then, move on.

      • benvad

        That’s exactly what’s happening.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      Let me state the obvious: We all need to call and write and heckle and corner at campaign events every house and senate candidate about immigration.

      • HJ11

        Sure. It won’t hurt. But, it doesn’t make more of us and that should be our goal. We need to flood the planet with Us.

        • Usually Much Calmer

          Why? We have high unemployment as it is.

          We don’t need more people.

          I’m happy to have the Chinese extract mineral resources from Africa, we are not in a position to do that right now. Flooding the planet with us means we do everything. Let’s just do some things very well and be nimble.

          • HJ11

            In the long run, those who fill the world with their genes win. You do that by having as many of your kind as possible. And, we Whites were kings of all hills when we were breeding like crazy in the past. We need to do that again. And, unemployment has nothing to do with our survival and evolution.

            Lastly, I want to see White filling every job from janitor to CEO.

          • Ella

            In Poland, you can but not in the USA unless you have a time machine,

        • Whitetrashgang

          Will not happen.

    • E_Pluribus_Pluribus

      Indeed. Two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning sociobiologist Edward O. Wilson:

      “In a Darwinist sense the organism does not live for itself. It’s primary function is not even to reproduce other organisms; it reproduces genes, and it serves as their temporary carrier.… the organism is only DNA’s way of making more DNA. More to the point, the hypothalamus and limbic system are engineered to perpetuate DNA.”

      Bottom line: Reproduction and sex are central to a Darwinian understanding of life and human behavior.

      • HJ11

        Right. To understand our purpose and the meaning of our lives we need to think about that which has made us–our DNA code. And, we need to expand it. It is us and we are it. If it lives on, we live on. If we are childless we cease to exist.

      • Geo1metric

        Why does our DNA want to perpetuate itself?

        • HJ11

          It is programmed by nature to constantly tinker with its code to find a way to bring life to every possible niche where there is some source of energy so that it can fill the entire universe with itself.

          Why does it want to fill the universe with itself? Becuase it does. Because existence as living minerals is better than existence as so-called non-living minerals.

          And, just a note to clarify something it does not “want” as the term is usually used. I use that as a convention.

          • Geo1metric

            So DNA is “fighting” entropy?

          • Usually Much Calmer

            You question the language or the concept?

            DNA is replicating ‘order’ in an exponentially more ordered way. Order and Entropy are anthises. They are not fighting oh, say, the way we are here, but unless I thought someone was picking a semantic fight and laying a trap, if I heard, “DNA is fighting entropy” I would just nod and wait for the point.

            HJ11 is right DNA perpetuates itself because that is the trial is has succeeded at, there is no bigger why.

          • Geo1metric

            HJ said “Because existence as living minerals is better than existence as so-called non-living minerals.” Extrapolating, I assume that “living” minerals, as a class, is more “ordered” than non-living, thus further from entropy. I understand the antithetical nature of order and entropy.

            Note the theory that ultimately the universe devolves to entropy. Life, being highly ordered, resists entropy.

            “…there is no bigger why.”

            Einstein famously stated that “God does not play dice with the universe”, or words to that effect. If one accepts that statement, there is always a bigger why.

            I generally do not pick semantic fights or lay traps. I prefer honest answers to honest questions. Trying to understand “why” things do what they do, has occupied much of my life thus far.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            Please forgive my pedantry. I should have looked at your profile before responding.

            I do not accept “God does not play dice with the universe” literally. I stand by the ‘no big why’ statement.

            I’m afraid I don’t understand the implication you intended with your question and I don’t understand much of your reply. If you are posing a question, it is not clear. If you are sallying a challenge to HJ11, that’s not clear to me either.

          • Geo1metric

            It has always puzzled me as to why Life seems to simply multiply without apparent reason. The May Fly life cycle is a prime example.

            So very simply, I was looking for some good ideas as to the ultimate purpose of Life. Nothing obscure here. With my initial question, I was simply implying that Life seeks higher and higher Order, while the force of entropy works in the opposite direction.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            I’ll humbly suggest you have Survivorship Bias.

            Life does not seek higher order, life tries everything it can and the less ordered seem to get nicked first. Its a sorting, that’s all it is. Subject generation, condition test, repeat. We end up with what we end up with and its at times beautiful or horrifying or mundane but I see no God in it. I see no hand, I see no purpose, I see no cavity waiting for a purpose, no ‘why?’. The beauty and the terror are enough to blow my little mind, so I am content.

            I’m sorry, if I knew this was a theological question of yours, I would not have chimed in.

          • Geo1metric

            My question is not theological; I am primarily agnostic.

            If I understand your position, the “system” of the universe is simply random while, of course, obeying natural law, that is physics, chemistry, etc. which is a purely mechanistic view. I can accept that though I waiver sometimes when I marvel at the astounding beauty of some of aspects of the universe; one of those is DNA.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            Maybe you and I simply do not have a natural rapport, but I find your use of language imprecise enough to hinder conversation with me.

            I think you have the jist of my view, though. However, I have to stress that I would never say that ‘the “system” of the universe is simply random while, of course, obeying
            natural law, that is physics, chemistry, etc. which is a purely
            mechanistic view.’ in whole or in part. I wouldn’t use those words, that framing, none of it. But I do think you glimpse my position.

          • Geo1metric

            I find your comments about my writing inexplicable. I’ve written for scientific/technical journals for decades as well as policy/white papers for a fairly large organization. Your comment about the imprecise use of language is especially flummoxing since my formal training is scientific. Although I must say that I try to post here for a wide audience.

            Here’s a plan: I will refrain from posting comments to you, and you refrain from reading any of my posts.

          • Usually Much Calmer

            I hope you have not taken offense, its not warranted.

            You are asking me about my take on the meaning or purpose of life, a big question. Its reasonable that I might be particular about the words used to describe it.

            And I just don’t think we’re meeting on the same wavelength, linguistically. That happens. It says nothing substantive about me or you, I’m not judging you. I once tried to read the book Pale Fire and couldn’t get into it, but that says nothing about the skill of Nabokov as a writer. I think its a mistake for you to have taken anything I said personally, in other words.

            I will refrain from replying to your posts, but I read everything here omnivorously so I’ll still read yours. As for you, you may do what you like with regard to mine.

        • SoulInvictus

          Because it’s the seed of the universe.

    • Max Krieger

      We need to take back the school systems first. Having a bunch of kids is counter productive when you’re just sending them to be indoctrinated by these Marxist schools and colleges.

      • HJ11

        I disagree. We don’t have to do anything first (meaning before having children). The first thing we need to do is have children. That’s also the second, third,fourth, fifth, sixth and so on thing that we need to do. The rest will fall in place when we have the numbers of us.

    • blanjm5

      I’ve got four and I donate to planned parenthood. That work?

      • HJ11

        Nice start.

    • blackjack322

      You can’t just tell a demographic of people “Breed more.”

      Because that’s not going to work. You have to create an environment in which they have no choice but to breed more. Or that breeding becomes easier. Or beneficial.

      The people who say “Breed more” have unrealistic expectations. It won’t work. So other avenues are required.

      It would also help if non-white immigration ceased.

      • HJ11

        Actually, breed more will work for me, thank you very much. I’ll breed more and my DNA code will survive and expand. You do whatever it is that you want to do. Go march on the border or hold up signs. I’m all for that, and if we can stop non-White immigration and increase White immigration great!

        In the meantime, I’ll make more like myself and I won’t confuse feel good activities with the real goal of repopulating this dark planet with people like me.

        • blackjack322

          Your efforts are meaningless if you don’t get the majority of whites on board.

          Just sayin’ bro.

          • HJ11

            They’re not meaningless at all. I am taking care of my own and I expect other Whites to do the same…or not.

            I intend to survive and expand my DNA code. Other Whites? Well, they can either do the same or not. Those of us who see the reality of nature and evolution can’t force others to see what is so plain to us. We can only offer our views and maybe a few other Whites will catch on at some point.

            Furthermore, I accept the notion of a “White racist gene mutation,” and I suspect those who lack it will never wake up. They may be White on the outside, but they are not my kind. They are the herd.

          • HJ11

            I see too many of our people seeming to say, in one way or another, that they wonder when Whites will all wake up. Well, not all Whites will ever wake up. And, I ask why are YOU waiting for them to wake up? What are YOU doing? Are YOU awake? Aren’t YOU an individual with your own best interests at heart? Do you want Whites to wake up so YOU can hide in the herd and let others do the work and face the insults, etc.?

            You see, for me, and I’m the only one I can speak for, I’m not waiting for the herd. I don’t need the herd to give me a backbone or validate my beliefs and my ways. I don’t want to hide in the herd. I’m living the righteous life and it makes me happy. It also pleases me to try to let other Whites know what I consider to be the righteous life. But, I don’t have an organization. There is nothing to join. Other Whites can live righteously or not.

      • Usually Much Calmer

        Barry White music could start playing when you opened an AmRen window.

        • blackjack322

          rofl

          Yeaaaaah I don’t think that’s going to work either breh

    • maxonepercent

      I disagree, the vast majority of the non-whites in the younger demographics were either born in a foreign country or are the children of first-generation immigrants. There is no way we can outbreed the immigration rate as it is now. The ONLY way to stop this trend is to limit immigration and increase deportation.

      • HJ11

        And, while you’re waiting for someone (and who would that be?) to limit immigration and increase deportation, why don’t YOU do what YOU can actually do–have more White children? Having more Whites around is a good thing.

        • maxonepercent

          out of curiosity, how many kids have you had?

  • Yet this racial generational gap, which is particularly large in California and the Southwest, also points up the potential challenges as the U.S. relies on younger minorities to pick up the slack of an aging nation, including supporting social programs for a mostly white senior population.

    I can really see grape picker Rodriguez making peanut wages really in a mood to pay FICA taxes for old white people.

    • JDInSanD

      It “points up” the potential challenges but the LA Times doesn’t get around to telling you the challenge is keeping a first world technological economy going with third world talent. To them the challenge is “why should minorities take care of old white people just because the minorities moved into what was once a first world paradise which they and their ancestors made no contribution to?”

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Mexicans and even Central Americans are explicitly told by their radical leaders that this is their land. I’m sure those child illegal immigrants are being indoctrinated right now, told they have a right to stay because it’s THEIR homeland.

        When demographics are in their favor, the will vote in leaders who will take white land for redistribution. Whites will be told to vamoose.

        • JDInSanD

          And that would be bad enough if they were actually full blooded Indians who used to live here but what most of them really are are self-hating mixed-breed mutts whose ancestors always lived hundreds of miles away.

          • Bossman

            Some of them are full blooded Indians who just happen to speak Spanish. Latin America appears to be a very alive and happy place so I don’t think that they are self-hating.

          • Sick of it

            “I don’t think that they are self-hating.”

            Which explains why they outbreed more than any other group.

        • Usually Much Calmer

          Two factors play into how much clout an electorate has: numbers and motivation.

          As we decline in numbers, we can still right the course by being incessant bugbears.

          I see no reason why we can’t out-operate ANY other group. Gripe on the internet after 5 PM. . . after you’ve worked at addressing the problem. Set aside 5 minutes of your lunch break to call Washington.

    • connorhus

      Best point of all QD. Once (IF) Whites become a real minority, and I hope we don’t and the tide turns, but if it doesn’t these mostly Hispanic new majority are going to refuse to pay for all the old White people. Just wait and see.

  • David Ashton

    Not just the USA.
    Look at the population projections for Black Africa.

    • Bossman

      Nature may be all about sex and procreation. In the coming decades, white will learn this rude lesson.

      • So CAL Snowman

        No, in the coming decades africans and latinos will learn the rude lesson that nature does not care about affirmative action and lefty tears. The africans and latinos will learn what it’s like to have to provide for themselves when Whitey is no longer able and/or willing to provide for them. It’s going to be quite a wake up call to the blacks and browns when the power grids start going down across the USA and infrastructure starts failing on a massive scale because there aren’t enough industrious Whites to take care of it all.

        • Bossman

          The article states that there’s also a huge increase in the Asian population. Aren’t these people supposed to be very intelligent? The non-white hordes may inherit North America by default due to the selfishness and elitism of white people.

          • So CAL Snowman

            Let’s see China is drowning in pollution and pretends that dumping god knows what into its rivers and lakes will have no long term effects on mother nature. 16 of the 20 most polluted cities on earth are located in China. Linfen, China is so polluted that one’s laundry will turn black before it dries if it is hung outside. The Japanese have single handedly destroyed the Pacific ocean by building a nuke reactor on top of an active fault line. Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, the Philippines, Laos, and Indonesia are all third world countries. The Asians aren’t all that and a bag of chips.

          • Bossman

            I see Asians as a bigger threat to white identity in North America than so-called Hispanics and Blacks.

          • SentryattheGate

            Yep, Japan is heavy into robotics rather than import foreigners into their “graying nation”. And robotics are getting so good that they will soon replace a lot of cheap labor jobs—ones that Mexicans, etc.are supposedly so necessary to do. Then, like the cotton gin replacing lots of slave labor, resulting in high black unemployment, many Hispanics will be perpetually on the guv’mint teat, making more babies to rob the taxpayers! And like blacks, they are the lowest-performing students, soaking up even more taxpayer dollars with tutoring, bi-lingual ed. diverting $$$ away from OUR smarter students!

        • Whitetrashgang

          Having worked up north the natives will not care and will go back to their old ways and live like they always use to.

  • JackKrak

    Why is it spun as the “gap widening” instead of the gap being “created” after thirty years of open doors to the more donkey and taco-intensive parts of the world?

    • Pro_Whitey

      Don’t forget the vast subsidies for breeding uncontrollably. I always have to calm down to avoid apoplexy when I hear yet another story about a married white couple seeking welfare assistance out of true need, only to be coached to divorce, because then it’s easier to get welfare.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        Don’t forget the vast WHITE subsidies for breeding uncontrollably.

        Part of Cloward-Piven.

  • QuinnTheEskimo9

    as the U.S. relies on younger minorities to pick up the slack of an aging nation, including supporting social programs for a mostly white senior population.

    No, they won’t pick up the slack. They will cut off any payments to elderly whites just as soon as they can vote in enough white-hating LaRaza candidates screaming “Para los otros, nada.” Los Otros = White Americans.

    Old white people’s bank accounts and property will be seized as belonging to Atzlan and they’ll be told to get off LaRaza land.

    Anyone who thinks otherwise has not been paying attention.

    • Bossman

      When those old white Americans learn to speak Spanish, they won’t be “Los Otros” anymore. White immigrants do well in Latin America.

  • So CAL Snowman

    “Madeleine Sumption, an economist and research director at the Migration
    Policy Institute’s international program, says two big factors are
    behind the relatively rapid gains in the Asian population: a surge of
    Chinese foreign students over the last decade, some of whom are staying
    on to work after graduating; and the growing ranks of professionals from
    India, who are receiving about two-thirds of the so-called H-1B work
    visas.”

    In other words our own Federal government is going out of its way to replace high salaried White workers with low salaried asians and indians in order to further alienate and disenfranchise us in the country our forefathers built. I’m sure this has nothing to do with Citizens United, or corporate lobbyists, or lucrative kickbacks for Congress critters and Senators.

    • wildfirexx

      Not to mention only the best and the brightest are coming to America, which in some ways is a double edge sword. On one hand, if they do decide to stay, they increase America’s pool of intellect while at the same time competing against white americans for jobs.
      On the other hand they will qualify with higher standards on average than domestic whites americans, taking more leading roles in mainstream society from whites ,just as Obama did to get elected as President.
      (His Father was a bright foreign student who just so happened to unfortunately knock up his Mother).

      • Einsatzgrenadier

        The “best and brightest” aren’t coming to America. What they’re getting are low wage tech slaves from Asia and the dregs of Latin America, who are also willing to work for low wages and under poor working conditions. This results in the displacement of whites at both the high and low ends of the socioeconomic ladder. As the invading third world hordes advance and steal jobs from whites, whites retreat, leading to the ethnoracial balkanization of America.

        • Bossman

          Yes, in many ways it’s twilight time for white people in North America. The Asiatic hordes are at the doorstep. So-called Hispanics have always been with us and they are a known quantity but the hordes of Asia are an unknown quantity. In the future they may pose a serious challenge to white identity in North America.

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Rumors of our demise are exaggerated, and it’s always darkest before the dawn. Whites are going to come back, and when they do it will be with blood dripping off their blades. They will have a lot of scores to settle.

          • Sick of it

            Considering modern acquiescence, it’s the only way we will come back. There were plenty of peaceful alternatives, all cast aside in favor of this modern Babylon.

          • Geo1metric

            Had to do it.

            THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
            by Rudyard Kipling

            It was not part of their blood,
            It came to them very late,
            With long arrears to make good,
            When the Saxon began to hate.

            They were not easily moved,
            They were icy — willing to wait
            Till every count should be proved,
            Ere the Saxon began to hate.

            Their voices were even and low.
            Their eyes were level and straight.
            There was neither sign nor show
            When the Saxon began to hate.

            It was not preached to the crowd.
            It was not taught by the state.
            No man spoke it aloud
            When the Saxon began to hate.

            It was not suddently bred.
            It will not swiftly abate.
            Through the chilled years ahead,
            When Time shall count from the date
            That the Saxon began to hate.

          • Geo1metric

            “This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of
            strength descends upon those in its service.” – Francis Parker Yockey,
            IMPERIUM

      • Usually Much Calmer

        Right. Got it, thanks.

      • QuinnTheEskimo9

        “Not to mention only the best and the brightest are coming to America”

        Sorry, this is simply not true.

        Read this brilliant comment/essay about H-1b visas and the damage they’ve caused to the IT industry:
        “Some simple facts about highly-skilled workers from the 3rd world” and “Companies damaged or destroyed by foreign imported labor since 1998”:

        The following is an excerpt, read the rest of this important comment at the link.

        – Most H-1Bs that enter the U.S. from developing countries such as India and China are not skilled as claimed – they are being trained by Americans when they get here – which makes both the applicant and hiring company guilty of fraud, which is a felony.

        – American companies are using the H-1B and other work visa programs as a way to displace and bypass American workers in favor of cheaper foreign labor.

        Most foreign imported workers who come to the U.S. to work on work visas make less than their American counterparts. Companies love imported workers because companies think they increase profits by cutting costs. Cost-cutting is a sign of a company in trouble. In reality, long-term cheaper foreign workers harm American profits because long-term increased profits rely on innovation, not lower costs – and countries like India and China have terrible track records in innovation.

        – Name one new industry or invention to come out of India or China in 250 years. Auto industry – America. TV & radio industries – America. Aerospace industries – America. Light bulbs, integrated circuits, computers, the internet, software – all of it comes from America, invented and created by Americans. Modern manufacturing, assembly line process – American. Now name one new industry or invention to come from India or China in 250 years – there are none. America doesn’t need these workers.

        The fact is, a decade of importing millions of foreign workers is not making the U.S. economy grow – it was growing in the 90’s – before they got here, not now.

        Now let’s go down the list of companies damaged or destroyed by foreign imported labor since 1998:

        PeopleSoft – Taken over by imported Indian workers in 2000 – had to be sold off to Oracle to avoid embarrassment of closing.

        Sun Micro – Dying. See above.

        Bell Labs – Taken over by Indian-national Arun Netravalli in 2003. Bell Labs where the transistor, UNIX, and the C programming language were invented is now being turned into a shopping mall.

        Quark – Taken over by Indian national Alukah Kamar – who laid off all the American developers and sent the work to India. The products became so bad that 60% of Quark’s customer base defected to Adobe InDesign, never to return. Kamar was later fired but not before permanent harm was done to Quark.

        Computer Associates’ former CEO from India is now serving 12 years in federal prison for fraud.

        MIT Media Lab Asia – Closed in 2006 due to faked invoices in India.

        Intel Whitefield processor project – this project in India was cancelled when Intel discovered that many of the “engineers” had faked their resumes.

        ComAir – ComAir’s 100% Indian IT staff caused the nationwide 2005 Christmas day airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int in the crew scheduling software they were working on. So much for the best and the brightest from overseas contributing to the American economy.

        Boeing Dreamliner – Boeing’s new 787 Dreamliner airplane has been delayed 5 times – in part because of failed software written by India’s HCL Technologies – whose CEO once said “American grads are unemployable”.

        Lehman – This failed Wall St. institution had purchased Wipro’s Spectramind software (which they in turn had bought from someone else and messed up) just before it went bankrupt. It also had hired large numbers of India, Inc. workers just before it went under.

        Dell – Outsourced a lot of work to India over the past decade. Profits are now down 54%. Michael Dell once said “Stability is more important than growth”.

        United/Delta – Both companies brought their call centers back to the U.S. from India when they discovered that foreign call centers were harming their business.

        HSBC – ATM software was taken over by India, Inc., ATMs began failing in 2006.

        AIG – Signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture, collapsed in 2009.

        Vodaphone – UK’s top cell phone vendor has gone into major decline – in part because its CEO from India didn’t do the job and walked out with over $41 million in compensation for doing nothing.

        World Bank – Indian, Inc. fraudsters including Wipro were BANNED for 3 years because they stole data.

        http //www information week com/it-strategy/indian-outsourcing-model-over-says-hcl-exec/d/d-id/1101275?

        • wildfirexx

          Sorry Quinn, I was basically only referring to foreign students coming to America to be educated by American standards.
          They pretty much (especially from China) send the Best of the Crop to be educated in our best universities and colleges throughout the country. And the best of those students with the highest marks are usually recruited and allowed to stay in the Country if they choose. It’s sort of a student brain drain from the finest from those foreign countries you might say. (not that I support allowing them to stay regardless of how smart they are).
          Unfortunately many of the regular third world immigrants and refugees coming to this country are a different animal all together, and are lowering our standards.

  • HJ11

    Sure, but while we’re waiting for that to happen–and, are you busy throwing some out or are you waiting for others to do it?–we need to make more like ourselves.

  • Usually Much Calmer

    Re-elect NOBODY.

  • HJ11

    And, the planet isn’t overpopulated with Whites. We should not hold down our birthrate because there are too many non-Whites. We are in eternal gene wars and we carry our armies within our bodies.

  • kjh64

    Whites shouldn’t have to overbreed just to keep up with 3rd world immigration. We need to stop and reverse 3rd world immigration.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      I agree. It isn’t fair that future generations of whites should have to grow up in a society that looks like Brazil. The best way to increase the white birth rate, as well as avoid the problem of overpopulation in white countries, is to get rid of all the racial foreigners from the third world.

    • The Captain

      If wishes were fishes.

      TPTB will never allow a White America policy no matter how much we want it, and your average white person would much rather play Candy Crush than participate in a violent revolution against the system. The only weapon racially aware whites can use to protect our own futures that the cathedral can’t take away from us is our ability to make lots of white babies with white partners and form strong tribal units with similarly minded whites.

      • HJ11

        Absolutely right! What each of us can do is make more like ourselves. All the talk about sending non-Whites back is fine and I’m all for that, but it’s just talk and it’s not something that each of us as individuals can control. We can control our breeding, and we need to do more of it…lots more.

      • HJ11

        “Isn’t fair”? Existence isn’t fair. We need to adapt to survive. We need to breed more of us. I’ve never been anyplace where there are too many Whites.

    • Ella

      Whites are below 2.1 for replacement; most White countries average out around 1.5. We’re not even close to overpopulating and will shrink rapidly in the next 30 years by 1/3 from estimates. Whites should have 2-3 babies and also, deport the free-riding immigrants.

      • Geo1metric

        A minimum of three is essential to population growth. Statistically, two children is not replacement of the parents.

    • M.

      Whites overbreeding is in itself a disincentive to bring immigrants. The left will think we have enough population as it is, and one must think of the environment and all that, and to the right, money has no color, workers and consumer are all the same, so they won’t need to push for immigration either.

      Whites underbreeding has been the main cause of Third-World immigration.

      • HJ11

        Right! And, with numbers comes political power. We need more Whites.

      • CourtneyfromAlabama

        I am not so sure that all of this will stop liberals and Republicans from continuing to bring in the hordes. If liberals cared enough about the environment, then they would have already stopped nonwhite immigration. And the Republicans will continue to allow immigration because they will always want to show that they aren’t racist. Neither side gives a care about what is rational on the topic of immigration, with or without a very large white population.

        • M.

          There’s a difference between showing you’re not racist, and actively pushing for more immigrants. The Republicans can do that by other means.

          As for the liberals, even though they may still try to import more racial aliens, they will have a tougher time making their arguments credible if our numbers are already steadily increasing.

          But regardless of all this, we should still increase our birthrates, simply because most Third World countries’ are higher than ours. If we don’t breed more we’ll be overwhelmed, and our percentage – and thus influence – will continue to dwindle.

          What’s encouraging is that the birthrates in most Third World countries have been on steady decline since a decade or so, and are set to keep declining. But they’re still higher than the Europeans’ (in the racial sense). So we need to keep pushing for some time.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            I don’t think the fact that they outnumber us globally would hurt us if 1) We didn’t allow them in our countries the way we do and 2) if we didn’t stupidly share our technology with them the way we have done.

            I agree that it would be good to get our birthrates back up to an extent, and that it is good for whites to try to at least have 2 or 3 kids, all this other stuff aside, because in order to have a good economy, we always have to have enough young workers to support the elderly.

            However, the main types of comments in this discussion that I have been disagreeing with are these judgements about how all whites should be having 4 to 5 kids if not more, and if they don’t, then they are part of the problem.

            I don’t think the issue is that severe, and as I have been saying, if all these other issues were fixed, then white people wouldn’t have to be competing in their own countries the way they do. You fix the problem by deporting and then stopping further immigration; not by telling all whites to breed like the third world, and condemning them if they don’t, the way a lot of people in this movement tend to do.

          • M.

            Can’t we walk and chew gum at the same time? We should certainly try to get our governments to shut the doors. But in the meanwhile, as long as the doors are still open, we should make some individual sacrifices and breed or else we’d be overwhelmed at this rate.

            Once our doors are shut, or our immigration policies becomes white-oriented again, yes, then we’ll be able to afford to slow back down on the breeding.

          • CourtneyfromAlabama

            Again, I am not against white people trying to do their part. If a white family can have 6 kids or more, then great. I am not condemning that. I would like to try to have as many as I can. All of us would like to.

            My main point is I don’t like the judgement on here that is directed at whites in general who are for whatever reason having less children (3 or less). Our society is structured now where it is harder and harder for whites to do this. There are so many factors involved here.

            Yes, we should all try to do whatever we can, but lets not judge the whites who through no fault of their own “aren’t having enough kids”. Obviously in this case I am not speaking about feminist women and liberals who deliberately go that route. I am speaking of the millions upon millions of whites who are trying to do the best they can but who haven’t been dealt the best deck of cards in life which would otherwise allow them to have 6 plus children. It is not as if our government has been much help the past few decades either.

            I also don’t like the judgement that pops up in regards to the age issue as to when white men and women are settling down and having kids. Many white women are getting married in their 30s and many white men are doing so in their 40s and they are going on to have successful and stable marriages, and they are able to have a few children (not just 1 or 2). On the other hand, a lot of people who get married under 25 are entering relationships that aren’t stable, that end in divorce, and as a result, hardly any kids get produced anyways. So, a lot of the judgement in regards to people who get married after 30 is very misguided.

            I am not saying you in particular have been judgmental, but many others have when these discussions come up.

          • M.

            “When we reach the white utopia one day that we all dream of, then it will be easier for all of us to get married at 20 again and then go on to have 15 children before we die. But we aren’t at that point right now.”

            Actually, when we reach the white utopia where borders are secured, and immigration (if any) is designed to keep the country white, we wouldn’t have to have as many kids and struggle that hard. Unless we want to reconquer the world again or build some kind of British-like empire.

            Being liberal about reproduction and family life is a luxury that could only be afforded if our race is secure within its borders.

            I agree with the rest.

          • antiquesunlight

            It’s amazing to think that something resembling such a White Utopia was called the United States of America not so terribly long ago. The ~10% of the population that was black was the only significant exception. In 1924, Calvin Coolidge, my favorite President, signed the Immigration Act that confined immigration to manageable numbers of Western/Northern Europeans. The explicit purpose of the act was to maintain American culture as well as the racial homogeneity that is necessary for health and peace. The Lord knows how bad I wish I could go back to that time.

          • Coyote Prophet

            Wow, lots more idiots in the world than I thought.

          • M.

            Ditto.

        • Sick of it

          If liberals cared about the environment, they wouldn’t accept nuclear fission as green energy. Absolute insanity (with the potential for a worldwide cataclysm).

          • SoulInvictus

            Thorium nuclear reactors.
            I want one.

          • Sick of it

            I want something much more advanced, but will have to wait until those who must not be named are no longer allowed to squash real scientific development.

    • HJ11

      “Overbreed”? Whites can’t overbreed. Nature tells us how to breed–it is part of our DNA code. Arrogant humans have overridden nature’s laws and that’s why we Whites are facing our genocide.

    • benvad

      Whites are following a path of self extinction. The only way to go is up in this case.

    • Peter Connor

      You can,t outbreeding the third world. Kick them out and keep them out…or else

    • blackjack322

      And breeding as well.

      But you can’t deny that white birth rates need to be at a surplus, even if it’s just a small amount.

  • kjh64

    “Non-Hispanic whites still constitute the majority of the nation’s population at 62.6%, but their numbers barely changed last year, at 197.8 million.”

    About half of these non-Whites are not citizens, they include the millions of illegal aliens as well as millions of non-White foreign nationals. The census doesn’t count American citizens living abroad either. The census doesn’t have separate categories for citizen and non-citizen. The problem with this is that only American citizens should be counted as the racial population as only American citizens are Americans.

  • tech

    Why must they always frame it like ‘now these young minorities will have to take care of these old whites’ likes its unnatural or somehow immoral? I thought we were all the same and it didn’t matter who took care of whom.

    • Mary

      Young minorities supporting elderly Whites=unjust
      White taxpayers supporting the disproportionate non-White usage of welfare programs=fair and reasonable

      • paul marchand

        * young minorities, with their tax dollars, supporting elderly whites – improbable

  • Kenner

    They’ll import Phillipinos. Stupid enough.

    • Bossman

      I read a story in the papers that the Japanese are importing thousands of Filipinos as sex workers every year.

  • Adolf Verloc

    If your children have been a disappointment and/or are alienated from you, these appeals sound hollow. I don’t give a damn if my genetic line dies with me.

  • bubo

    I’m surprised now when I see a lower class white woman that actually has white kids. It’s almost an anomaly nowadays. Racemixing by lower and lower middle class white women is off the charts.

  • Whitetrashgang

    I think they will export their excess men to Africa. which will really help the Africans.

    • Bossman

      Chinese men all want fair-skinned women to mate with so I don’t see much cross-breeding happening any time soon between these two groups.

      • Geo1metric

        Blind.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Now that sounds like the start of a mighty good song……..

  • Epiminondas

    Choose your retirement home carefully. Preferably in a state like Wyoming.

  • Bossman

    I don’t think any Mexican would like to be mistaken for a Chinese. Even if they invite them, not many will go there.

  • Bo_Sears

    I wonder why you label the diverse white Americans with a negative label, “non-Hispanic whites,” but no one else. This seems kind of bigoted. If the argument is that this is the US Census label, then you would also use “non-Hispanic Asians” and “non-Hispanic blacks,” but they are granted positive names without a negative connotation.

    We are also frequently stripped of “American” which is accorded Asians and blacks. What’s that about?

    • M.

      Whites are the original Americans (as in citizens of the United States). White American is kind of redundant.

  • Chris Granzow XI

    This isn’t anything really. Whites make up 63% of america. They rise above that figure, at 79%, when it comes to people over 65. We’re slightly below that, at 51%, when it comes to under 15’s. This just means that we’re way over represented when it comes to old people, and slightly underrepresented when it comes to adolescents. The fertility rate in Latin America is falling below replacement level, so in a couple of years that won’t be an issue anymore. The real problem is going to be these H-1B work visas. It doesn’t make sense to have immigrants taking the jobs we supposedly don’t want, but then have immigrants flying in from half-way around the globe to take the jobs that we DO want. There needs to be some organized movement or protest against these H-1B work visas.

    • Mary

      White #s are continuously dropping, both in absolute #s and percentage of population. There is nothing to indicate this will level off. Evidence shows the rate of decline will likely accelerate. Even if the Latin American birthrate is declining, it is still higher than the White American rate and there is nothing to indicate this will change in the foreseeable future. And since the #s of younger Latin Americans are so high in comparison to the aging Whites, they will be the ones having the babies in the future.
      Yes, the H-1B visa holders are a huge problem as well, but don’t underestimate the
      interminable growth of the low-end Latinos.

      • Chris Granzow XI

        Keep in mind it said 50% of under 15’s are white, and 25% are latino. If these groups had the same (or similar) fertility rates, it would still keep whites in a majority. I’m not saying everything is fine, I know it’s a far cry from how it should be, or how it was back in the 50s/60s. Europeans and European-Americans need to have more kids and have a higher fertility rate, that’s for sure.

        • Mary

          I wish I could be more optimistic, but the fact that Whites are hovering around 50% for the under 15s is seriously bad news. And it keeps declining every year due to immigration of non-Whites, and greater fertility of non-Whites. When Whites do have children, an increasingly large number are mating with non-Whites, and the resulting offspring typically do not look or self-identify as White. This practice will continue to grow exponentially in the future as there are fewer young Whites as potential mates.
          Another factor is that although the fertility rate may be falling overall in Latin American countries, this is an aggregate of all social classes. The poorer people who are likely to be high breeders are typically the ones we are saddled with in the United States. And we all know what that means.

          • paul marchand

            Yeah. They play (and vote, and receive) and our heritage pays. And dwindles. And dies.

        • paul marchand

          White births 1950: 87% of whole.
          White births 2014: 49%.
          White births 2034: 30% ?????

          • Sick of it

            I could see 20% or less by 2034. Non-whites have shorter generations.

    • M.

      To add to what Mary said, even if the fertility rates of Latinos were lower than those of Americans, they would still come. The average rates of Eastern Europeans are lower than those of Western Europe, and yet the formers are still immigrating to the latters.

      By the way, the fertility rates of some Central and Southern American countries and territories are already lower than those of the U.S.; namely, that of Paraguay, The Bahamas, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Bermuda, Nicaragua, Chile, Uruguay, Aruba, Saint Vicent and the Grenadines, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Virgin Islands, Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos Islands, Bermuda, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Montserrat, and the British Virgin Islands.

      Those that are higher than the U.S. are Antigua and Barbuda, Jamaica, Dominica, Colombia, Curacao, Grenada, Peru, Argentina, Mexico, Equador, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Panama, Guam, Haiti, Bolivia, Honduras, Guatemala, and Belize.

      ——————-
      Source: the CIA Factbook, 2014 estimates.

  • M.

    Unfortunately, even those countries have very low fertility rates. They’re still very white because they’re not as wealthy as Western European and Commonwealth countries. Language also helped to shelter them from Third Worlders.

  • M.

    They can still stop being lazy and spawn more kids. Although, on that issue, I mostly blame the upper- upper-middle-class whites who can repopulate the world with their money but won’t, and would rather give their money away to feed Africans or some other useless cause.

    • IstvanIN

      Evil Bill Gates only has two and Jay Leno has cars. These are our rich.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    I agree, California. But we have the same posters on here who want to continue to judge the white people who don’t produce children, instead of examining the ins and outs of all our societal issues that are causing a good number of whites to not have enough children. I say that we need to fix those larger problems before we start judging every single white person who doesn’t have children or who doesn’t have enough children.

  • Sick of it

    Their foolish ways are anti-Christ. They preach and practice heresy as a matter of course. It’s better not to get involved with such people.

  • Mary

    I wish I didn’t, but this is what I believe as well. Once the Baby Boomers begin to die en masse, I agree that societal changes will be rapid and profound.

  • rentslave

    When the machines take over,they will euthanize the younger non whites by robots and drones.

  • paul marchand

    The “Civil Rights Act” ( theft of human rights, in this case those of whites), in addition to actions by the IRS, welfare, and Ted Kennedy’s immigration “reform” has succeeded in sinking white cohesion in this country, thus the quasi-genocide ( or just plain genocide). Birthrates = destiny.

    • paul marchand

      “They” would not allow white cohesiveness in schools. Thus US public schools now are only 37% white, and dwindling. They would not allow apartment owners to protect themselves and white patrons. Thus the white “start-ups” / middle class had no moderately-priced apartments with peers, and complexes turned into ghettoes. Should there be any possibility of moving whites to protect their neighbors by selling to those with whom the old neighbors would be comfortable, the EEOC and the DoJ, along with lawyers looking for suit, would shut them down. They forced whites to hire inadequately-qualified minorities. They taxed the middle class silly, while recipients had the free load.
      Thus the loss of cohesiveness, schools, cities, country.
      But no problem.
      It’s all so the clueless soulless bastards in the dem party and other leftists can have a fake cause celebre’.

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        When enough whites realize their own lands are enemy occupied territories, there will be cohesion, born of necessity. It is already happening, our presence here is not the only manifestation of that fact.

        • paul marchand

          I see that too, Zaph, on “mainstream” media comment sections. Hopefully not too late in the “game” of reality.

  • HJ11

    The only person I can control, is me. And, I’m doing what is necessry to ensure that my DNA code carries on into the next generation after I die. And, I’m teaching my children the basics of evolution and why we must multiply our kind. Perhaps in five hundred years, most Whites who are still White will find me in their family trees. I can’t know that for sure, but I can know that the more children I have like me, the greater is the chance of this being the case. And, while my DNA continues to live, there is hope that Whites will wake up from the present decadence and understand how important it is for each of us to make more like ourselves.

  • HJ11

    It is estimated that about half of all European descended people have Charlemagne in their family trees. That means that Charlemagne’s unique DNA code has virtually conquered all of Europe and the rest of the planet where his descendents now live, long after his body died. And, it also means that those Whites who had no children or too few children during Charlemagne’s time and thereafter are now extinct–you know the ones: “Oh, I just couldn’t find the right man (or woman),” or “My pet dog (or cat) is my child,” or “I didn’t want to overpopulate the world.” Whites who say such stupid things are not my kind. As far as I’m concerned their lives are meaningless and without any purpose whatsoever.

  • Kenner

    Why not Finland or Poland? Poland’s doing pretty well.

  • Anon

    As the U.S. population ages and becomes more racially diverse
    The US population is becoming less and less diverse, not more. The last US census shows that quite clearly. The white population is shrinking. It also is becoming more and more segregated. Non-whites do not want to live among us….they want us to give them stuff. Especially blacks. They want to live in their own enclaves. They do not allow, let alone want, white people around. This is no joke. Most hardcore black enclaves, white people are attacked on sight. They are literal, no-go areas. They do not recognize our laws or even any law. Law enforcement has adopted a combination of a siege mentality and militarization. Police don’t enforce most laws in these areas because you cannot put the entire black population in jail. But when they do come, they come heavily armed and armored and will kill without hesitation. They carry military weapons and will often use them in ways not appropriate for law enforcement. In other words, they act as soldiers, not police….because they have to. A police officer knocks on your door with a search warrant. Soldiers come as a squad with assault rifles and heavy armor. They toss a flash bang grenade in after battering the door down.
    What is really happening here. What is actually the US has shrunk. On paper, the borders are the same. But in actual fact, the US is a much smaller country than it once was. Those areas where whites have left have become third world nations dependent on US aid and occupied by our soldiers…NO DIFFERENT THAN IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN.
    All that is left is to admit the new borders and cut off the socialism to prevent an economic and government collapse.

  • Puggg

    The America of 178 million people, 90% of them white, went to the moon, even though it was on the other end of that decade.

    • HJ11

      The problem is that we didn’t stay there and remain isolated from gene flow and breed like crazy.

  • HJ11

    Extend present low birth rate trends of Whites into the future and you’ll see that we’re on the path of the last of the Mohicans.

    One of the biggest danges we face is miscegenation: bedroom genocide in which we only contribute 23 of our chromosomes to a new child. Such a child is not one of us. We need 46 White chromosomes–two White parents to be one of us.

  • M.

    Actually, it’s 197 million, and we’re on a sharp decline.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Which leads to huge numbers of disposable males among them.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    I do not call what is happening to us national/cultural suicide, it’s in fact genocide. They are creating on the one hand conditions that prevent whites from having children, and on the other they are using darkie hordes to kill us and will use them to commit organized slaughters against us. Neither fits the word suicide.

  • John R

    BULL! We are not “overpopulated” with Whites. Second, this country was built by White people, most of whom were poor. They worked hard, and looked out for their own. You think the pioneers were “middle class”? No. But they had lots of kids. And they built this nation that we are throwing away for two incomes and new gadgets.

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      I think that Rainer’s point is that our number one problem is a large immigrant population in white countries right now. The pioneers didn’t have to compete with large numbers of nonwhites. The American Indians don’t count, because even back then their numbers were sparse.

      • Ella

        There is another problem not mentioned yet, especially among the nanny state. People have replaced larger families for elder care with the Social Security system. So, people in Asia, Europe and US have grossly reduce birth rates and increased their personal wealth for comfortable retirement. The Boomer generation reduced their TFR to 1.7 in 1976 similar to the Great Depression birth rates. This leaves less whites to produce offspring compared to 3rd worlders.

    • Sick of it

      They made/grew most of what they needed on farms. Today, most of our people are helpless wage slaves who have to buy everything they need.

  • TXCriollo

    As someone with family from miami all anyone needs to do is look at what happens there to see what the future holds. When blacks and non cuban latins took over as the majority of that city look what happened. Whites and cubans in one part a small part, all the rest all over, crime poverty. I say to everyone not the miami i remember as a kid i will be saying that about america soon i feel

  • Geo1metric

    Everyone has a “father”. Africans who live in the US act similarly to those in sub-Saharan Africa. Genes are destiny. Wake up.

  • Geo1metric

    It is the part of the nature of the White man to explore. We could no more “stay in our own lands” than a pig could keep from wallowing in a mud puddle.

    • Usually Much Calmer

      I would proffer that it is in our nature (and it be developed or not) to know what is worth doing and what is not.

      China can have Africa. The purposes to which Africa’s vast mineral wealth is put. . . were not developed by the Chinese.

      Again, we should do a few things very well and be nimble.

  • HJ11

    Ah, the old discredited nurture over nature argument rears its head once again. Blacks didn’t act better in the ’50’s. They were just psychologically and in some cases legally confined to their own communities and they feared White law so they didn’t dare attack Whites as much as they do now.

  • HJ11

    I tell them that their god would worship my God, if their god were real.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Not true for most whites. Most whites I know are struggling to afford raising two kids.

  • HJ11

    That’s old morality. We need to change that. Haviing our kind of kids is the greatest thing any of us can do in our lives. Long after anything else we do, our genes will flow on so long as our kids also keep reproducing White.

  • flitetym

    Always remember this: members of society are either creators or consumers … leaders or lepers.

    Heck: capitalists, or socialists.

  • Usually Much Calmer

    I upvoted you. Please edit the swear words before you post, however.

    Don’t make more work for the mods.

  • Sick of it

    A better question – Where are you finding them? Certainly not in most churches.

  • SoulInvictus

    That everything has a shelf life.;)

    • CourtneyfromAlabama

      So now you are poking fun at chaste women? Before you were complaining that there aren’t enough chaste women.

      Are your posts meant to be serious, or do you just like giving people a hard time?

      • SoulInvictus

        It was a joke.
        Mostly.
        I’ve seen quite a few women holding out well into their thirties for marriage. I don’t think that’s good either.

        Some of my post are serious, some not.
        I have a sense of humor that isn’t for everyone.
        And yes, sometimes I enjoy giving people a hard time just to see what shakes out.

        • CourtneyfromAlabama

          Yeah, I have seen your posts. You seem to be really obsessed about the topic of a woman’s beauty going South after 30. Stuff like that varies from individual to individual. You also had that on your list of requirements in what you are looking for (that they be under 30).

          That is reasonable if you yourself are under 35 as a man. A lot of white men are single these days, and above the age of 35. There is nothing wrong with that, but if that is the case, they shouldn’t expect their future mates to be under 30….unless they want to remain bachelors.

          It is just like what I was going into in regards to the fat issue. When men and women are looking for mates they need to be reasonable, holding themselves to similar standards to what they expect in a mate.

  • rentslave

    When machines take over,they’ll give the order to get rid of the darkies.

  • Carlos Geary

    Same thing is happening in Europe and even in South America. Argentines and Uruguayans of European descent have been a majority in those countries since late 1800;s, but they are receiving great numbers of unauthorized immigrants from other Latin American countries, Asia and Africa. According, to some reports, indigenous people are being displaced from their ancestral lands and are easy prey of human trafficking which is one of the fastest growing transnational criminal organization. It seems that those criminal organizations control the lives of the migrants in the destination, and extract heavy payment for the services rendered.

  • MooTieFighter

    The most forgotten aspect of this joyous event (whites becoming the minority) is the fact that America will no longer truly be America. What made this country great is also being lost as our population shrinks. It’s hard to watch but also prophetic. Our country becomes weaker everyday that our country becomes less white. The minorities will deny this till the bitter end, but it’s an obvious truth to those that are not blind. The fact is that the elites knew they would have to infiltrate America with weaker minds and liberal ideologies to destroy this country. A true New World Order could never have occurred while America was strong. The New World Order is here, and all they had to do to get it, was dilute whites. Now world you can suffer the consequences of government control like you have never seen before.

  • SoulInvictus

    That was a good read, but the bigger question is…
    did you go back and help her having seen the opportunity presented to you with almost divine symmetry?

  • Geo1metric

    Take a look at White population on a global scale and you’ll see the problem for the White demographic. Think globally.

  • CourtneyfromAlabama

    Only the men who are real wealthy and famous are able to get any young hot thing they want. Most other men above 35 don’t have that option. They have to compete with the young attractive men who are closer in age to these young hot things under 30.

    And it always seems to me that the normal men who are over 35 and attractive in many ways, tend to go for women their own age. It is very rare that men in the general population who are pushing 40 and above are able to get 20 years olds. And if they do, there is usually something socially awkward about them (the men).

    I don’t think men who are pushing 40 and still single really have much room to portray an arrogance in regards to what they expect in a partner in this regard. Most partnerships no matter what the age usually have a 5 year difference at the most, with the woman being younger.