Why Whites Support Capital Punishment

Jamelle Bouie, Slate, March 28, 2014

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Less remarked on is the disparity in death penalty support, as revealed in a new Pew Research Center survey. Overall, 55 percent of Americans support capital punishment, and 37 percent are opposed. Among whites, however, support for the death penalty jumps to 63 percent, compared to 40 percent for Hispanics and 36 percent for blacks.

Religion—or at least, Protestantism—seems to increase the divide. At 67 percent in favor, white evangelical Protestants are more likely than any other group to support the death penalty, followed closely by white mainline Protestants (64 percent). {snip}

Before we get into why whites are so supportive of the death penalty, it’s important to remember this: There’s no separating capital punishment from its role, in part, as a tool of racial control. As Stuart Banner explores in his book The Death Penalty: An American History, one of the earliest American-made capital statutes—as opposed to ones borrowed from England—was passed in New York in the aftermath of a 1712 slave revolt.

Likewise, in Southern colonies like Virginia and South Carolina (where enslaved blacks were close to half the population), legislatures imposed the death penalty for a long list of offenses. For blacks to do anything to interfere with their enslavement was to court death. {snip}

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These sentences weren’t always carried out—slaves were valuable!—but the point was to create fear and discourage active rebellion or violent resistance.

Move forward a century, and you have a retrenchment of capital punishment in the Southern states, even as their Northern counterparts moved away from the practice. By the middle of the 19th century, notes Banner, the death penalty had been removed from “crime after crime until none of the northern states used it for any offense other than murder.”

By contrast, in Louisiana—reflecting the incredible tension over slavery and existential fear of revolt—“it was a capital crime to print or distribute material, or to make a speech or display a sign, or even to have a private conversation, that might spread discontent among the free black population or insubordination among slaves.” North Carolina had similar laws, imposing the death penalty for—among other things—“concealing a slave with intent to free him” and “circulating seditious literature among slaves.” What’s more, most Southern states punished attempted rape with death if the defendant was black and the victim white.

Wide use of the death penalty against blacks would continue through the 19th century and into the 20th, pushed by Southern whites who saw capital punishment as necessary to restrain a dangerous black population. “If the death penalty were to be removed from our statute-books,” explained former Arkansas governor George Hays in 1927, “the tendency to commit deeds of violence would be heightened owing to this negro problem.” {snip}

Indeed, it’s noteworthy that as late as 1954, rape was a capital offense in every state of the former Confederacy, and five retained the death penalty for arson. Even now, most executions happen in the South, and Southern whites continue to show strong support for capital punishment.

Our cultural attitudes are unconsciously shaped by our collective history as much as they are consciously shaped by our current context. When you consider the death penalty as a tool of racial control—a way for whites to “defend” themselves from blacks—then Pew’s poll results make sense. What we’re looking at is the inevitable result of that history expressed through public opinion, and influenced by racialized ideas on crime and criminality.

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It sounds glib, but if you needed a one-word answer to why whites are so supportive of the death penalty, “racism” isn’t a bad choice.

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  • Tom Mixx

    I support a wide range of corporal punishments, ranging from, whippings, the stocks in all weather, all forms of execution that is fast (I’m not a fan of torture), etc. Just as long as it does what it’s intended from reforming a person through punishment to ending their lives because of their crime.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      They are killing us in horrific ways, and I think the time will come where we will have to take a page from Vlad the Impaler’s own playbook. That is, do to them what they are doing to us, only return the favor with interest.

  • Okay, so why are white people who are convicted of first degree murder more likely, perhaps twice as likely, to be executed, than black people convicted of first degree murder?

    • WmarkW

      Most black/black murder is between two criminals (like rival drug dealers or gangs).
      Juries don’t usually assign death in those cases.

      • Even counting that, there are still a lot of heinous black murders, and it seems to me that even they rarely get the death penalty.

        • Laura Dilworth

          naacp

      • Alucard_the_last

        I feel that black on black criminals shouldn’t be arrested esp. if it is murder.

    • Who Me?

      Because as civilized people we expect better of our own kind.

      • sbuffalonative

        When one of our own commits a crime, we want them removed, temporarily or permanently from our community so they can’t hurt or influence others. That’s why we created a criminal justice system.

        Blacks put their race before justice. Justice, or more specifically the white man’s justice, is racist. They would rather have a guilty black man free than a guilty black man a victim of the white man’s racist justice system.

        • Shawn_thefemale

          And even if that guilty black man will knock off ‘dey baby’ 3 months from now. Whites can’t even comprehend that [lack of] logic.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      Because we have an increasingly anti-white justice system and government. Just wait and see just how many more whites will be put to death by the state when we have NO rights or power in our own lands.

    • Laura Dilworth

      cuz we have a minority occupied government

    • SFLBIB

      THE COLOR OF DEATH ROW
      lagriffedulion . f2s . com/DP . htm

      • That’s very good reading.

        I think the only slight flaw in it is that it presumes that the racial composition of those on death row is the same as the racial composition of those actually executed. I bet that blacks on death row are more likely to get race favorable stays and commutations from judges and politicians.

  • Eagle_Eyed

    “What’s more, most Southern states punished attempted rape with death if the defendant was black and the victim white.”

    But what about the reverse scenario? Probably as rare as legitimate Bigfoot sightings. Needless to say, ain’t too many whites attempting to rape blacks.

    • Nancy Thomas

      White on black rape is statistically insignificant, while black on white rape is from 10 to 20K per year!

      • Laura Dilworth

        more in prison

    • dcc2379

      First, in your scenario, $20 and a lifetime of herpes prevented that scenario.

  • Daniel Schmuhl

    I”m sure Repubs and libertardians in a few years will be anti-capital punishment because raycism. In a few years time many formerly respectable conservative positions will be completely outside the Overton window, anyone holding these views will be seen as worthy only of contempt.

    • Before anyone laughs at what Daniel Schmuhl just wrote:

      It’s all but criminal at this point in time to be against gay “marriage.”

      Barack Obama was against gay “marriage” as late as May 8, 2012.

      Firefox -> Uninstall

      • Daniel Schmuhl

        Pretty much, we are headed towards a left singularity.

        • So were the Soviets, and look at them now.

  • I dislike courts for reasons that should be obvious by now, and distrust their judgements, but I have no ideas for useful substitutes.

    • Medizin

      When 10-15% of those imprisoned are not guilty, 10-15% guilty are free, there are reasons for disliking the courts.

  • Diversity Fatigue

    “There’s no separating capital punishment from its role, in part, as a tool of racial control.”

    It’s all about race, all the time. With blacks, everything is viewed through the racial lens. Its not about “an eye for an eye” with Jamelle, no, it’s about race. Specifically about how it affects blacks. And yes, Jamelle is black…

    • MBlanc46

      Well, right, his name is Jamelle.

    • LHathaway

      “It’s all about race, all the time… Specifically about how it affects blacks”.

      I remember when the Travon case was hot in the news. I was reading one of the black messsage board. About 90% or more were in support of Travon.

      One of them wrote a nice post saying something, “We should be afraid this Travon case doesn’t blow back on us the fallout doesn’t harm us”

      So, no matter what happens, they are only worried about what befalls them.

    • bilderbuster

      If an alien from another world were to believe this article he would think that Whites invented the death penalty only for Blacks or that if it was ever used before Blacks became a part of society that it was used only sparingly on Whites.

    • silviosilver

      White liberals have to consider someone like Jamelle their equal. What joy.

  • Katherine McChesney

    ‘On the other end, religious blacks and Latinos are even less likely than their peers to support the death penalty.’

    Is it any wonder?

  • MekongDelta69

    “Jamelle” “Slate” “Racism

    Am I missing anything?!?…

  • AutomaticSlim

    Which is why most White countries, sadly, are in decline.

    • Nancy Thomas

      You nailed it perfectly. This is probably the biggest problem that we have. Our altruism is killing us.

    • Christianity also calls for swift justice to be brought to the perpetrators of heinous crimes. Capital punishment has been used throughout Christendom’s history. It is only now as we slide into moral relativism and secularism that we’re doing away with an ancient human practice that has been a feature of European civilization since it began.

    • Shawn_thefemale

      Not only is it the damage blacks do; it is the examples set by them, accepted by and for them, that rubs off on those Whites who are not deep in their convictions as White people. When behavior and language are made mainstream, witnessed repeatedly by others, it gets picked up by them and emulated. That’s how fads, fashions, slogans, etc. start and spread. Due to that fact of human nature, a large number of whites have started to act, speak like and accept the no-longer eyebrow raising behavior of the savages living in this country.

  • Mergatroyd

    Mob beatings of whites aren’t always carried out—Whites are valuable!—but the point is to create fear and discourage active rebellion or violent resistance.

  • Economists have written exensively on crime and capital punishment. I support capital punishment because it serves as a deterrent. I’ve read enough of the academic studies to be convinced of the truth of it.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      It isn’t working as a deterrent, but execution is the one sure way to ensure an offender will never harm another person ever again. Only two people have ever escaped from a grave, and they are known to all Christians.

      • Lagerstrom

        Yes. I’m not interested in ‘deterrents’, I’m more interested in ensuring that insane sexually violent criminals aren’t let loose to commit the same crimes over and over again. If that means ‘terminal means’, so be it.
        In my locale there has been quite a hoo-hah over some nutcase that the authorities keep letting out to commit the same sexual atrocities again and again. The first offence that this charmer committed (that he got caught for) was raping a ten-year-old girl at gunpoint. Why would any sane society allow that ‘person’ out again? If he got what he deserved after the first one, there would be no further victims.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Precisely, that is why I support capital punishment. It would not undo the death and bodily harm creatures like that do to others, but it will put a permanent end to their reign of terror and debauchery. It’s mere pre-empting future attacks the consequences of which will affect the whole of society and threaten it from within.

    • MBlanc46

      It sure doesn’t seem to deter all the 14-15 year old hood rats who get their hands on a gun and just can’t wait to shoot someone. I don’t think that they have the intelligence or the impulse control to be deterred by any law.

      • It’s a deterrent in the statistical sense. It assumes that criminals act rationally. However, I haven’t looked at the studies recently to see if maybe the deterrent effect isn’t weaker than it used to be. One thing for sure, all the guys executed for murder won’t be killing anyone else.

        • MBlanc46

          I won’t argue with the data, but I do suspect that the people most prone to murder are least likely to be deterred. My view is that if there’s any justification for capital punishment, it’s the demand for justice. Kant makes the argument about as well as it can be made (as he does with many things). That said, the glaring defects in our criminal justice system, ought to give one pause.

          • dcc2379

            Maybe instead of looking at a public deterrent, let’s look at the individual deterrent. Compared to parole or probation, prison, and other such programs, how many executed murderers have ever reoffended? From this perspective, the results are 100%.

      • Shawn_thefemale

        Even more, they have no soul; no feelings, no deep connection with anyone or any thing. They feel nothing. Death carries no meaning to them whatsoever. They only they connect to is anger.

  • D.B. Cooper

    I see justice served, Mr. Bouie, and your point is….?
    Last time I checked, there is one continent on Earth with a 99% black population. Howzabout trying your luck over there, and escape from us eeeeevil raysists?

  • I like capital punishment because it is fair play.
    Tommy Lynn Sells was recently executed in Texas because he apparently liked to kill little girls.

    He’s probably Whiter than I am, but he rightly forfeited his life because of his evil deeds.
    Albeit – 14 years too late – but still.

  • Who Me?

    I support capital punishment, but I do NOT support putting people on death row and keeping them there for 20 years or more before either executing then with great ceremony or letting them die of old age. Also when one has been proven without a doubt to be guilty of a heinous crime deserving of death, why does he get to file appeal after appeal, each costing hundreds of thousands of dollars, all the while getting a nice, climate controlled place to live, the best food money can buy, the best medical care in existence and many choices of entertainment and/or recreation? (TV, lifting weights, library materials…)
    Capital punishment when carried out within a reasonable time limit and in a reasonable manner saves money and and gets rid of people who cannot be reformed.
    I think a year to the day of sentencing, pending the completion of ONE appeal, and a short piece of rope affixed to a tall tree would do just fine.

    • AutomaticSlim

      Agree 100%.
      On both the one appeal/one year execution as well as the “prison perks” these degenerates receive. Prison is not a deterrent to ghetto low lives. There is nothing for them to be scared of there. It is only a deterrent to middle class, non violent White guys for crimes such as drunk driving, not paying alimony/child support (even if the wife cheated and the kid is not his), embezzlement, internet fraud, etc..

  • Luca

    “There’s no separating capital punishment from its role, in part, as a tool of racial control.”

    I like the Liberals form of racial control better. It’s called: abortion.

    The useful idiots are to stupid to realize it and Liberals are to hypocritical to admit it.

    Works for me.

  • Zaporizhian Sich

    Anyone who commits heinous crimes such as the Knoxville Horror should be executed and they should die horribly regardless of their race. Period. After they get their case taken to an appellate court for final review, it should be off to Old Sparky, a firing squad or the gallows for them. Let the families of the victims be allowed to throw the switch or pull the lever too that terminates the life of a darkie or darkies who kill their loved ones.

    • Laura Dilworth

      did the knoxville horror perps get executed?

      • Who Me?

        No. Thomas got life, but with the possibility of parole. I’m not sure what the others got after their new trials, but they have not been executed, and I *think* the one who got death was overturned and is now serving life without parole…

        • Laura Dilworth

          thx

        • Cid Campeador

          Check out “Execute Le Maricus Davidson” on FB. The sonofabitch will probably never be executed. The Christians and the Newsoms will never see “justice” done.
          Perhaps the Aryan Nation will “take care” of him in prison.
          “Dream on Little Broomstick Cowboy”. Bobby Goldsboro.

    • Ethyl Rosenberg?

      • Zaporizhian Sich

        Nope, Ruth Snyder who was put to death for murder in New York over 70 years ago. The photo was taken secretly by a reporter present when the warden at Sing Sing prison threw the switch.

        • I think she and her boyfriend killed her husband for life insurance money. Several movies were later made about it.

      • DNA Explains It All

        As I recall Ethyl died hard, requiring multiple shocks and checks.

        • She caught fire toward the end as well, as I recall. Good deal!

          • DNA Explains It All

            Stick and marshmallow moment eh?

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          Around the sort of electrical circuits I worked on, the first shock would be your last, and it would literally blast you all over the room. 13,800 volt electrical current is a remorseless killer.

          • DNA Explains It All

            No doubt, ANY “distribution” level voltages would have this “bug zapper” exploding body effect. This is not what is used in executions, as the stories of exploding bodies would not go over well with the bleeding hearts among us.
            I seem to recall reading somewhere that 2400V at low current is used, even still the few amps burns skin.

          • DNA Explains It All

            I still remember seeing some CSI episode where they made the claim of it requiring 6ma to stop a human heart. My own experiments differ greatly and I would say flowing a SINGLE MILLIAMP through the chest and not on the skin would do it JUST FINE!

          • Zaporizhian Sich

            Some guy who really wasn’t the brightest bulb in the box wanted to “measure his Ohms” with a multi-meter. He poked the probes through the skin of each hand and pressed the button, immediately went into cardiac arrest because the current passed from one hand through the heart to the other, and expired. He was far below decks in a U.S. Navy vessel, so by the time crewmen found him, it was too late to save him. So yes, a 9-volt battery is capable of killing you. I am an electrician, and when I work around live electrical panels and equipment, I am VERY careful to avoid electrocuting myself.

  • John R

    OK. So big bad racist Whites support the death penalty just to control a supposedly violent black population. And this is clearly wrong, according to this article. Then, blacks are given civil rights, and the death penalty is seldom used, even for the worst of crimes. And what happens? Blacks violently attack, rob, rape, and murder Whites, just as the “racists” said they would! Yeah, the Southerners were right about blacks all along! Why don’t we just admit that our fifty year social experiment in racial equality has failed?

    • LHathaway

      They wont admit that until all whites are dead, and then the spin will have to be ‘it is a good thing they are and we’ve achieved full diversity’. It’s a good thing cause they were so evil. Who they will blame then, with the exception of whites ghosts, is another question.

      I suspect before we celebrate full diversity for the entire country whites will act to preserve themselves. It’s kind of a catch 22. It would seem as if whites will not act until it is too late. I think they will act, however. It’s probably not a question of whether they will act or not. The real question is likely how much territory in north america will whites be left with.

      • John R

        If Whites are all dead, the blacks will have to INVENT them. Remember the LA Riots? Blacks hung out on the street corners to attack “anything white” coming by. Few Whites (save Reginald Denny, maybe) ventured into the black part of LA. So, who did they attack? Koreans, Hispanics, and even blacks with lighter complexions! So, they will always need “whites” to blame and will always find some.

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    The only form of “capital punishment” that works with blacks is the one that involves a lynching mob, a good old-fashioned barbecue and a tree with a noose hanging from it. Jim Crow kept white women and children safe from rampaging blacks. Too bad that golden age in race relations had to end with the civil rights act of 1964.

  • Nancy Thomas

    Whites support capital punishment because whites believe in accountability for ALL races.

    • Harry

      RIGHT ON!

  • Frank_DeScushin

    Jamelle was one of the Leftist author’s who last year was really pushing the idea that the Knockout Game and black mob attacks are a figment of the white racist imagination.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    Blacks like the author of this article project into others as they see the world. He sees the world as black vs. white so he assumes that all white judge and jurors sentencing a black man to death see the world like him. The truth is that the author and most blacks are far more race conscious when in comes to the death penalty. They oppose the death penalty solely because black murderers receive the death penalty. Regardless of how heinous the crime and how much evidence to support the conviction, many black people will remain convinced that the conviction and sentencing of a black murderer was solely because of white racism.

  • John K

    Blacks are the most likely to commit murders, so they should be put to death. A prison sentence is a badge of honor to blacks, and they murder again. Whites aren’t for the death penalty because of racism, they’re for it because they’re the blacks’ favorite targets.

  • Northerner

    Let’s look at the nation who uses Capital Punishment the most, China. To the Chinese, it’s an extension of eugenics by removing murderous and other criminal elements from their society. Justice is also served.

    • MBlanc46

      Good point.

    • Harry

      I am sure there is a lot less crime in China, than in either the United States, or South Africa!

      • Northerner

        Overwhelmingly White nations (e.g., Scandinavia) are safe. China is also fairly safe for the same reasons, which doesn’t include capital punishment, namely, racial homogeneity and low cultural disposition to violence. Demographic and socioeconomic differences across the U.S. make many parts of the country more dangerous than others.

        • Jesse_from_Sweden

          Except that Scandinavia isn’t overwhelmingly white anymore.
          Nor are they safe.

          Sweden now has 25% of their population that is either foreign-born or has parents that are……

          And violent crime, sex crime, drug crime etc are all shooting up.

    • sbuffalonative

      That’s basically true of European justice.

      We developed a justice system that either temporarily or permanently removes dangerous people from our communities before they can hurt or influence others.

      I’ve often considered our justice system a weeding-out of dangerous people.

      However, there is a downside.

      By removing people, mainly men of reproducing age, who possess the drive to take decisive action when they feel they’ve been wronged or threatened, who are the men that are left?

      In one way, we’ve developed a safer society. But it has also left us vulnerable by breeding out ‘men of action’ so to speak, and leaving us with nicer, more compassionate men who don’t know how to fight or defend themselves.

      This might have been good if there were only whites in the world but others, like Africans, never had a ‘weeding’ program and we see the results we’re up against.

      • Northerner

        I think you’re making the assumption that it’s not possible to be both compassionate and strong at the same time, which I disagree. Examples from history include men who were Knights or Samurai. Modern equivalents could include select law enforcement or military personnel.

        Most murderers serving time today are there because they’ve killed people during robberies, rape, gang wars, psychological breakdowns or otherwise uncontrolled outbursts of rage. The vast majority are not “men of action” who were killing for a noble cause.

        • AutomaticSlim

          Agree with most of what you say. But “Modern equivalents could include select law enforcement”…A lot of bad cops out there these days. AA, lowered mental and physical standards, a sense of superiority, the militarization of the police. It is causing a lot of problems, and not for the violent criminals who deserve it. A month or two ago some idiot deputy killed a 100 pound White teenage autistic boy who was acting up, and his parents just wanted the cops to help get him to go the hospital. Many more stories like this on Lew Rockwell’s website. Seems to be more and more common.

      • LHathaway

        lol weed and seed

  • MBlanc46

    All kinds of assertions. Not a shred of evidence.

    • Tarczan

      Yup, he says darkies are over represented on the death lists, but they are not on the basis of crimes committed. They are over represented according to population, but not crimes committed.

  • Peter Connor

    As usual, Slant magazine is a fact free zone. But Whites probably support capital punishment because they are much smarter and more future oriented than minorities. They are also the ones paying the enormous cost of incarcerating killers.

  • Harry

    I am against gun control and I am for the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms. I think marijuana, opium, cocaine, heroin, and peyote should all be legalized. I dearly wish that prime time TV in the USA was allowed to show full frontal nudity, just like in France, Germany, and other European countries.

    But concerning criminals, that is where I become very conservative and a realist. I am for capital punishment for murderers, rapists, child molesters, robbers, and other criminals who threaten society. I think that once a death sentence has been passed, the execution should be done as soon as possible. In other words, the taxpayer’s money should not be wasted for keeping death row offenders, alive on death row.

    It is outrageous that bleeding-heart white liberals defend black criminals, oppose the death penalty, especially for black criminals, and often actively work to get violent black criminals released, and back on the streets.

    But if any of these bleeding-heart white liberals were robbed, raped, or had a friend or family member murdered, would any of these bleeding heart white liberals ever change their minds and become race realists?

    For example, when the death sentence of cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal was reduced to life imprisonment, it was a serious humiliation for Maureen Faulkner, widow of Philadelphia Police Officer Daniel Faulkner.

    As for myself, I will have to admit that if I committed a capital offense, I would much rather be executed, than have to spend the rest of my life in prison.

    I am for the right of all us of to live our own lives, but when you commit a crime against somebody else, that where freedom to do your thing has to end.

    Since blacks commit more crimes than whites, then why shouldn’t they be imprisoned or executed, upon being found guilty? Regardless of whether you are white, black, Asian, or American Indian, when you break the law and hurt other people, you must be held accountable for your actions!

    • I am a convicted federal felon on the Terrorist Watch List. My FBI file says “firearms expert, explosives expert, chemist and ex-mercenary”. I have not been farther than my own mailbox in days. I tie fishing flies and make fishing lures at home. I have reverse-engineered a lot of my favorite restaurant recipes from places I have been, and I do most of the cooking here.

      I am married and we have a little girl.

      I have been home almost 11 years and off supervision for seven of those. Some people can be salvaged.

      • Harry

        Thank you for letting me know this. Now that I think about it, I would want you to have a full Presidential Pardon, if it were up to me to decide.

        • Tarczan

          Relax, I have it on good authority he is already on Obamas’ pardon list.

      • MBlanc46

        As I understand it, you didn’t shoot someone over a pair of gym shoes or because he flashed the wrong hand signs.

    • As for myself, I will have to admit that if I committed a capital
      offense, I would much rather be executed, than have to spend the rest of
      my life in prison.

      That’s a line that a lot of white people opposed to the death penalty parrot. I know this doesn’t apply to you, because you just said you are for it.

      “Why should we put people to death? If it was me I’d really fear having to spend the rest of my life in prison.”

      There’s the error: “If it was me.” Smart whites think that dumb blacks are smart whites. Yeah, “if it was you,” you’d never murder anyone on an impulse, either.

      • I did three years, so I could do life. That said, my mother would die of old age and I wouldn’t be able to see her regularly, my wife would divorce me and find someone else, my friends would eventually stop writing, my daughter would be busy making a life for herself, and so-on.

        I would rather be executed.

  • NorthernWind

    I support the death penalty simply because any society needs a way to permanently eliminate the worst criminals. Senseless murders, violent rapes, and other crimes of this sort should result in the death penalty. I honestly do not care who you are, if you show yourself to be irredeemable you deserve to die.

    Furthermore, in order to actually generate some deterrence from this, you also have to do the executions in public. The public should not be sheltered from such things.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      The condemned fellow prisoners should also be forced to watch when they are put to death.

      • Cid Campeador

        I still like the wood chipper at slow speed method feet first.

        • Zaporizhian Sich

          How about being lowered into a vat of concentrated hydrofluoric acid one quarter inch at a time?

          • Cid Campeador

            Sounds good to me!

    • The last western nation to use public executions was France, and they quit that because of the behavior of some of the spectators, some of whom were unlawfully filming the event.

      With our own current use of lethal injection, there isn’t much point to doing it in public or even broadcasting it on television. There isn’t anything visually impressive about watching a guy get a hypodermic shot and then go to sleep.

      • Martel

        I can’t find anything about the radical views of the mother of Dunlap, any directions?

      • shmo123

        Why not make them work hard labor 6 days a week? Make’em rue the day they were born every day at sunrise, and when they return they’ll be too exhausted to do anything but eat and go to bed. No more hangin with the homies in the prison yard lifting weights, and when the brothers come for a visit (if that’s even possible) they can relate to them how their miserable pathetic lives are a living hell. Now that might act as a deterrent.

        • I suspect it takes a more sophisticated mind than they have to be miserable in prison.

          I wasn’t locked up in a bad place. I worked five days a week, and in my free time, I ran a study group for guys working on their GEDs. My file says I taught my bunkmate to read, but what I really did was bring Rex from a “Tip & Mitten” reading level to “Aviation Week & Space Technology”. We had a reading circle of relatively bright white guys, and we shared books with each other, mostly “swords & sorcery” and science-fiction novels. We talked about hod-rod builds.

          That said, I missed living in my own home and sleeping in my own bed with a willing woman. I missed cooking whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted. I missed my collection of books. I missed quiet. I missed my tools and my cars. I missed being able to go shopping for whatever I wanted. I missed fishing. I missed shooting, and I still do. In short, I missed nearly everything that had made up my old life.

  • The Verdict of History

    Amen.

    1.)

    The use of the term “racist” is intended to distract from the serious issue at stake – it is meant to throw off the core focus of discussion.

    It is designed to evoke an emotional response in observers.

    2.)
    It is also an intimidation tactic. They don’t want you to say what really has to be said. Imposition of silence.

    3.)
    The term itself is used so often, so loosely, so haphazardly [spelling???] that it has become meaningless.

  • Africans support chopping people up and eating them. Every African conflict in the 20th and now 21st century involves machetes as well as easily available weapons that can by bought on any market. Africans still prefer to savagely slaughter their enemies – women and children included. Rape, slavery, cannibalism is still perfectly acceptable acts by some African tribes.

    • Zaporizhian Sich

      That is why I have NO qualms about using any and all weapons available against them in the coming wars, even if that means using neutron bombs or nerve gas to decimate them wholesale. In war, the only appropriate response to their savagery is even greater savagery designed to wipe them off the face of the Earth.

  • Cid Campeador

    IT’s either capital punishment by law or vigilante justice by people who have reached their limit of tolerance. The execution should follow the sentencing within 6 months.

    • I am in favor of a lengthy appeals process. Lots of innocent guys have been later exonerated via DNA evidence. Britain wrongfully hanged Timothy Evans in 1950 for the murder of his baby daughter, when sexual serial-killer, John Christie was the real murderer. Executing innocent men defeats the entire point of capital punishment.

      Police framed a (white) Ft. Collins high school student for the murder and sexual mutilation of a young woman here in Colorado. He was eventually released and given a lot of money. The cops had no idea who had really done it, but since it was a high-profile case, they wanted somebody, so they would look good to the public.

  • Alucard_the_last

    The death penalty needs to be expanded to include child rapists, treasonous government and Hollywood officials (Obama, Michael Moore) and cocaine, heroin and meth smugglers.

  • Laura Dilworth

    blacks hurt each other also, and the motive is not a general revenge, sometimes personal revenge

    • bilderbuster

      During their drive bys it’s often a case of mistaken identity or the neighbor’s kid or dog.

      • Laura Dilworth

        alot of times it’s a disrespect killing

        • bilderbuster

          Something they do all the time proving their lack of impulse control or concept of consequences.

          • Laura Dilworth

            evolutionary culling

          • bilderbuster

            The White man needs to stop interfering with evolution.
            With Whites out of the picture nature is free to run it’s course.
            Rwanda perhaps?

          • Laura Dilworth

            the white man can’t help himself

          • bilderbuster

            White people need to return to their pre-twentieth century ways of dealing with outsiders that was very successful.
            This modern altruistic attitude will be the death of us as our enemies well know and don’t hesitate to use against us.

          • Laura Dilworth

            there is some law and order-many of the perps are incarcerated. sigh

          • bilderbuster

            It costs a fortune for the whole criminal justice army to do that plus the ones locked up cost an arm and a leg only to get out to be monitored until they go back again.
            Death row isn’t a bargain either.

          • Laura Dilworth

            i still prefer them behind bars

  • Racist, in my mind, has become synonymous with “truth-teller.”

  • Shooga J

    Blacks commit 50% of all murders. Yet, they are executed at a rate of only 34% compared to ALL other races (57% white, others make up the difference). So tell me where the racism is here please? If you are committing half the murders, should you not be held accountable at the same rate? Seems to me we have a little reverse racism going on here…

    • Martel

      The term ”reverse racism” already implies society views ”racism” as a phenomenon usually committed by whites and primarily directed at negroes or other minorities. Its a a poisonous term, in general I discourage the use of the word ”racism” as it cannot be properly defined.

      • Shooga J

        I am left with no other phrase to use. Since a white who simply looks at a black is racist, no less has the audacity to quote facts regarding their statistical ownership of practically every social misdeed, there simply is no other way to go. And I do agree with your point. You will find “racism” is far more prevalent in blacks against whites then the opposite…but don’t expect the media to tell you that tiddy.

        • Martel

          I do not recognise the word ‘racist’ or ‘ racism’, I do use terms such as ‘encouraging ethnic conflict’ or when I must ‘discrimination’.As the term racism is based on a false premise, and the word is strong associated with traditionalist Europeans, it often has little impact to use it to describe black ethnically motivated aggression. The recipient of your claim will hear ‘racist’ therefore think of a KKK member or a skinhead, and try to apply it to the black individual, emotionally this does not compute. I hope I am not being to vague, but what I am stating is that the visual image associated with ‘racist’ basically makes it useless to describe negro ‘racist’ behaviour. On the other hand, you may have found a way to make it work, I follow your posts and you are very effective in pushing your views.

          But in the future, I want to see the word racism discarded as an archaic word.

          • Shooga J

            I agree that the overuse of the word “racism” has changed it’s context. Still, it is the only word the body politic understands. By today’s standards, ‘encouraging ethnic conflict’ would confuse the average low IQ individual I am trying to make a point with. Even the more educated types cannot understand anything else because they have spent their lives being taught in school from K-through College that because they are white, they are naturally “racist”. In this horribly politically incorrect world, my only weapon is the shoot back with the word they distorted…in reverse.

          • Martel

            It also depends on the audience you are engaging.

          • Shooga J

            :)…I think you know the audience I am chatting with…I would not have to explain myself over and over again if people would simply open their minds to facts. They are the types who prefer to bury their heads in the sand when confronted with reality.

          • Martel

            True, either how I enjoy your commentary.

          • Shooga J

            Thank you. I appreciate that very much.

  • ghetto_scum

    I had to support your thieving murderiig butt while you were on welfare, now I have to support your ass while you are in Prison? I’d rather pay to have you made good and thrown hole for your dirt nap and give you bat wings.

  • toldev

    The reason that you stated, that the death penalty removes the criminal phenotype from bloodlines, is the best reason to support the death penalty. Of course there are many other good reasons to support it as well.

    If white societies were to ruthlessly apply the death penalty as has been done in centuries past, the level of criminality among blacks would drop a great deal over time. And by ruthless application I mean that for a 14 year old boy who commits arson goes directly to the gallows. Of course I would not actully advocate such a thing because in the course of removing the criminal phenotype from black bloodlines there will be hundreds of millions of white victims of black criminals. For that reason, geographical separation is the better answer.

  • bilderbuster

    Putin would be an improvement over most puppets our two headed/one party state offers us but he’s taken a long time to accomplish what little he has done.
    The Germans of yesteryear knew how to straighten up a mess in no time at all & it’s not a big secret how they did it.

  • Ograf

    This is one issue that they have wrong. Anyone guilty of murder or rape and murder and especially crimes against children I want to get the death penalty, And it doesn’t matter if they are white, black or polka dotted aliens, some crimes scream out for the death penalty.

    • My suspicion is that with a death penalty for rape or child-molestation, we would simply see more dead rape victims.

      • Ograf

        That is probably true Michael Christopher, but it seems now that there is plenty of senseless murder and brutality around. I think my bigger point was supposed to be that there wouldn’t be or isn’t anything racist involved. It is a crime specific concept I am trying to endorse. We will always be accused of racism, no matter what.

  • Hedonic Nihilist

    Live like a trayvon and you’ll die like a trayvon.

    • DNA Explains It All

      The sooner the better for civilization.

  • LHathaway

    So, blacks murder and whites are called the racists. . . .

  • Translation: If a black man rapes and murders a white woman and you are in favor of the death penalty, YOU are the racist, even if you would favor the same sentence if the races were reversed.

    • I already know I am a racist, and I am not one bit sorry about it.

      • Yes, I think the ‘liberal’ implication that it is blind hate for blacks, when those who are aware of inherent racial differences, especially when it comes to violent crime, can see all to well. Not to mention possessing the healthy attitude of preferring your own kinship group.

  • blanjm5

    The three fifths compromise was FAR TOO generous.

  • Cid Campeador

    All violent criminals who have raped and/or murdered should be annihilated regardless of race.
    Our economy would get a positive bump if we weren’t spending billions on incarcerating and feeding sub-human offal.
    That money could be spent on curing diseases.

  • Cid Campeador

    How long can sperm be viable out in the air?

  • Cid Campeador

    Who is that Mau Mau and what was his crime?

  • silviosilver

    What is your point? Most white nations are in steady decline. I suppose you don’t see it because it you don’t care about whites.

  • Martel

    Yes, good way to enter into a conversation, will adopt it.

  • Of course, but it is only considered “bad” when whites are.

  • Equal Parenting -Fathers Initi

    Well, IF Obesity in the Black community can be blamed on “racism”. And, IF School Suspensions can be blamed on “racism”, then I’m sure; everything else can be blamed on Racism too.

  • Paleoconn

    Why don’t these people accuse Whites of being misandrous, given almost all murderers are male?

  • Svigor

    Better question would be why do blacks support their murderers, rapists, etc.

    Or why the tribe offers Jewish criminals safe harbor in Israel. Or why they lie so much, for that matter.