Why Are Asian Americans Democrats?

Alexander Kuo et al., Politico, March 18, 2014

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{snip} In the 2012 presidential election, Barack Obama won 73 percent of the Asian American vote, exceeding his support among Hispanics (71 percent) and women (55 percent). This striking statistic has caused a great deal of consternation among Republicans, who seem generally mystified as to what they might be doing wrong.

It’s a puzzle with huge electoral ramifications. More than 16 million Asian Americans live in the United States today, making up 5 percent of the population and accounting for nearly 4 percent of all voters. They’re a sizeable voting bloc, but one far less understood than other groups, given that their political clout has only begun to emerge.

The GOP’s confusion comes not only because, in 1992, Bill Clinton captured just 36 percent of the Asian American vote. It is also because Asian Americans as a group have certain characteristics that would ordinarily predict a Republican political affiliation, most strikingly their level of income, which on average, is higher than any other ethnic group in the United States. {snip}

Other conservatives have pointed to less tangible characteristics of Asian Americans, such as an emphasis on discipline in child rearing and a penchant for entrepreneurship, that ought to make them Republicans. “If you are looking for a natural Republican constituency, Asians should define ‘natural’,” notes the American Enterprise Institute’s Charles Murray. “And yet something has happened to define conservatism in the minds of Asians as deeply unattractive.”

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Is it just because Asian Americans have more liberal policy positions, as a recent report by Phyllis Schlaffy points out? This answer is unsatisfying because it might get things backwards: Someone’s party identification is just as likely to explain their policy views (since people generally take cues from their party) as the other way around.

Our research offers two alternative explanations.

First, there’s race. The feeling of social exclusion stemming from their ethnic background might push Asian Americans away from the Republican Party. Many studies, like Henri Tajfel and John Turner’s work on the psychology of intergroup relations, have shown that one’s identification with a broad category of people—be it on the basis of language, ethnic or racial solidarity or some other trait—is important politically. Republican rhetoric implying that the (non-white) “takers” are plundering the (white) “makers” has cultivated a perception that the Republican Party is less welcoming of minorities. That might help explain why Asian Americans, despite their “maker” status, prefer the Democratic Party—even if the GOP doesn’t discriminate against Asians specifically.

And many Asian-Americans do feel like they don’t get equal treatment. According to the 2008 National Asian American Survey, nearly 40 percent of Asian Americans suffered one of the following forms of racial discrimination in their lifetime: being unfairly denied a job or fired; unfairly denied a promotion at work; unfairly treated by the police; unfairly prevented from renting or buying a home; treated unfairly at a restaurant or other place of service; or been a victim of a hate crime. We found that self-reported racial discrimination was positively correlated with identification with the Democratic Party over the Republican Party.

But correlation does not equal causation. To confirm the causal relationship, we conducted an experiment in a university laboratory in which both Asian Americans and white individuals were brought into the lab, and half of them were randomly subjected to a seemingly innocuous statement, such as being asked “Where were you born?” or being told “You speak good English.” These racial “microaggressions” are sadly common—see Roberts’s clueless remarks to Murthy—and carry the implied message that Asian Americans are not true Americans. In our lab, a white laboratory assistant made the comment to half the study subjects before asking them to fill out a survey on various political attitudes.

Among those who did not receive this message, 76 percent of respondents identified as Democrats while 24 percent identified as Republicans. However, when prompted with the racial microaggression, 87 percent identified as Democrats and 13 percent identified as Republicans. This is a very large increase given how innocuous the message was, and the fact that it was only mentioned once. In fact, Asian Americans who were exposed to this race-based presumption of “not belonging” were more likely to view Republicans generally as close-minded and ignorant, and have more negative feelings toward them. Our findings suggest that Asian Americans associate feelings of social exclusion based on their ethnic background with the Republican Party.

Our second finding is a little more complicated. It turns out that the political affiliation of Asian Americans is sensitive to how issues are framed. When Asian Americans are reminded of their shared political interests with other minorities, they are pushed to the left. We found evidence for this argument in the 2008 National Asian American Survey. To again get at causality, we conducted an experiment embedded in a national survey to corroborate this finding of the impacts of intergroup solidarity with African Americans and Hispanic Americans.

We surveyed a large sample of Asian Americans and randomly assigned individuals to read different versions of a newspaper article that framed the important, high-impact issue of immigration in two different ways. One article focused on the impact of Arizona SB1070, a law that required police officers to ascertain people’s immigration status, indicating the common status of immigrants of Asian and Hispanic origin. Another article focused on how the current immigration reform debate can pit higher-skilled immigrants from Asia against lower-skilled immigrants from Latin America.

The result: When immigration was framed as an issue that teamed Hispanics and Asians together under the umbrella of common interest, 72 percent identified as Democrats and 28 percent as Republicans. But when immigration was framed as an issue that pitted Hispanics and Asians against each other, only 67 percent of Asians identified as Democrats and 33 percent as Republicans.

Our findings of course do not mean that social exclusion and solidarity with other groups are the only reasons why Asian Americans are Democrats. {snip}

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  • Diversity Fatigue

    Whoever said Asians were our “allies” was nuts.

    • Martel

      Engelman is a fruitcake. He didn’t want whites to be allies with Asians though, he wants whites to be displaced by Asian immigrants, whom he prefers as imagined lovers and distant friends.

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        There is an Asian threat. We better acknowledge it. They are not pro-White, and they are never going to be pro-White. We can only make some sort of an alliance with them if we manage to unite all Whites, but we must remember that they are still never going to be pro-White in the way that we are. We are on our own in this struggle for racial survival. Therefore we need more people like us, no miscegenation and more solidarity among ourselves.

        • Martel

          They rightfully recognize that whites are in a inferior strategic position, they see a people unwilling to defend themselves and minorities who do actively promote their interests. Its a logical choice, although they fail to recognize that a diverse America will not be safe for their people, they are physically weak and blacks enjoy targeting them.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            I do not think that Asians have such a mastermind at all. They are just only pro-Asian and do whatever comes natural to them. Because their strategy is not planned, they are running towards disaster. They do not know what is going to happen when Whites no longer control their societies. Asians are going to be the next victims when the supreme power in the West has been handed down to the cruel low-IQ minorities. We can easily beat their strategy if we get our heads together, but what are our folks doing? Pretending the White race doesn’t exist!!!

          • Martel

            They basically react to the circumstances of seeing docile whites and pro-active minorities cooperating for their interests. There is indeed no well thought out strategy, which is usually the case when it comes to a group evolutionary strategy, its generally a reaction to the power balance between existing demographic entities.

          • Jesse James

            I don’t think they are really pro-Asian anymore than most Europeans are pro-white. Instead I think they have strong loyalty to their ethnic group and historic nationality. Vietnamese aren’t pro-Chinese just because they are all Asians. Ditto for Japanese and Koreans. Like Europe they have some strongly defined countries that have maintained their regional ethnic cultures for thousands of years and have over that time built up many historical grievances and associations.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            I acknowledge that they do not support some pan-Asian ideal, but they support an Asian ideal that focuses more on ethnicity rather than race. The word pro-Asian in my previous comment makes little sense if you do not assume that Asians support an Asian ideal that focuses more on ethnicity rather than race. Pro-Asians are not pan-Asians, like pro-Whites are not pan-Europeans, although some pro-Whites might adhere to a pan-European ideal. I recently also mentioned to Augur that European Europeans tend to think in ethnic lines rather than racial lines, while European Americans tend to think in racial lines rather than ethnic lines.

          • And let the sad and murky reality of attempting to define whiteness, or even properly experience it, in a country that has been overrun with immigrants and non-whites like America be a lesson to ye in Europe. Get out of the E.U., get the third-worlders out of your countries and focus on preserving your cultural and ethnic integrity because there are forces at work laboring day and night to turn my sad reality into your future.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Also I don’t think it is likely that the low-IQ non-whites are actually going to take over the actual leadership of the United States.

            All non-Whites who immigrate into the west are parasitic cultural zombies who left their own countries because of their own peoples’ inability to build Western-style civilised nations from which no one would emigrate. Non-White mass immigration is the result of non-White mass failure, and I mean that for all non-Whites.

          • slash345

            Loyalty to their group?

            Ermmm.

            Let me remind you: Asian women pro-create with non-asian men at astoundingly high rates compared to other ethnic groups. They even beat out hispanic women by a very large margin.

            So this idea that asians are racially loyal to themselves is far far from the truth.

            Asian men and women here in the states are at odds with each other because asian women have no sense of loyalty what so ever. Asian women have the biggest loyalty issues out of all women.

            I think you should reassess your theory.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            “…Let me remind you: Asian women pro-create with non-asian men at astoundingly high rates compared to other ethnic groups. They even beat out hispanic women by a very large margin…”

            That must be a west coast phenomenon. I don’t see that so much in New England.

          • slash345

            Are there any asians in new england?

            Most are concentrated out west, in some spots in the northeast and around dallas and houston.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            They are very clannish. Always gaming the system.

          • Jesse James

            It is just anecdotal but I live just outside of a college town and the large number of Asians here mostly seem to keep within their ethnic groups. Judging just from the constant stream of spy stories coming from what is left of our industrial and research sectors, the Han Chinese seem pretty loyal (to China) to me. The Korean community in Atlanta is very isolated and deliberately so. They have their own shopping centers, actually whole roads of their own shopping areas with all the signs printed in Korean. It is a colony cut out of a section of what used to be Atlanta. They seem pretty loyal to their culture and race. I live in Georgia so I don’t see as many Asians as somebody from California but there are a surprising number of them here – and they are getting more numerous every year. I don’t see a lot of evidence of pan-Asian associations, things here seem pretty much grouped around their country of origin. I have also been told that they look down on mixed race children of white/Asian couples.

          • slash345

            Interesting.

            I don’t see things like you describe around Texas.

            The only asians that isolate themselves are the ones who are recent immigrants. My comment applied mostly to Americanized Asians.

            I think it’s important to emphasize the distinction between Americanized Asians and Immigrant/Isolationist Asians.

          • Jesse James

            The Korean thing in Atlanta bothers me and I need to look into it more. The only reason that I know anything is that I know a Korean doctor who is part of that community and we have had many frank discussions about it. He even understands why I am uncomfortable with having a city within a city from an alien culture and race but he just shrugged his shoulders one night over a beer and said, “Hey it may bother you but you best get used to it. Have you been to Asia? It is overflowing and all those people are going to go somewhere because there is no future for them at home. To us America looks empty.”

          • slash345

            Empty?

            Interesting…I’m assuming he means the economic future.

            That’s pretty much a given.

            I’m lucky enough to live in a city where the economic down turn has not yet struck. One of the last vestiges of American economic dominance. It’ll fall under the weight of mass migration of people from all over the country here. It’s getting very crowded. And job ads are becoming scarcer by the day.

          • Jesse James

            By empty I think he was referring to population densities. I was thinking also about your earlier point being about Asian Americans. It makes sense that the ones who no longer live in ethnic immigrant neighborhoods would date out of their ethnic group more. There are probably a number of different patterns going on at the same time. I know that Vancouver BC is well on its way to becoming more of an Asian than a Canadian city. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me to see Asians taking control of a number of cities. If I was the Chinese I would start with our worst cases like Detroit where land is cheap. It is still at a good location for a city and they could take it from the blacks the same way the blacks took it from the whites. Flood neighborhood after neighborhood until they have the voting base to seize control through elections. That tactic worked for the hispanics in LA. Thanks to the banksters and our weak fiat currency it wouldn’t surprise me if the Chinese leverage that debt in the future for settlement rights.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            We only have the latter in New England. Their self imposed isolation appears to be for secrecy reasons, since most of them are on the dole fraudulently.

          • Northerner

            You’re going to confuse a lot of people here by saying that Asians don’t actually have racial solidarity.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            If you look through the last couple months links you will see a fair amount of Asian based commentary.

          • Mergatroyd

            “Shakespeare”…who is that?

            We didn’t study dead white males in high school or college only Maya Angelou.

          • slash345

            You raise some good points here.

            Although Asian governments are very Authoritarian in the same way the Russians are. They are not soft around the edges like weak westerners who have this sense of guilt and this need to give and self-sacrifice. All this work will have been for nothing when the reigns are handed over to non-whites once whites have vanished on this side of the globe. That’s why I believe all of this is a result of corporate sell outs who are just plain greedy.

          • Cid Campeador

            The greatest threat to us AND the Asians are the Afros. My ancestors didn’t bring them here. The Anglo- Saxons did!
            We sit by while White brethren in SA and Zim are being exterminated.

          • Jotun Hunter

            we haven’t quite tipped over the edge into inferior position yet – we are on the trajectory for sure — when we do start to tip there will be a backlash, and an epic struggle.

        • Cid Campeador

          “We can only make some sort of an alliance with them if we manage to unite all Whites, but we must remember that they are still never going to be pro-White in the way that we are. We are on our own in this struggle for racial survival.”

          So many people who post here still haven’t arrived at an agreement as to who is qualified to be called White.
          There was a discussion on a previous article as to whether Armenians are White.
          I was once told by the mother of a girl whom I dated while I was in college that she would prefer that her daughter date someone of her own race. I’m three quarters Sicilian descent and one quarter Irish. This girl was 100% Anglo-Saxon . I didn’t play my Irish “card” because I refused to suck up to what I considered an ignorant lady and because I DID look more Mediterranean. Growing up in a predominantly Italo- American enclave we were considered White by Blacks who made their regular criminal incursions into our neighborhoods and were quickly driven out with souvenir injuries. That was back in “the day” when Blacks “youths” didn’t have firearms. Many of the Eyetalian men in the neighborhood were either WW2 or Korean “Conflict” veterans who brought home pistols but we never had a shooting.

          They hurled epithets at us like “White Muthaf—uhs” and Honkies but never Dagos, Guineas, Wops, etc.
          Most of the store owners in the Business District of our area were Jews and that how we identified them but never perceived them as being not White. We got along just fine and there were some inter-marriages. I never met a Jew who didn’t look White. It’s an ethnicity as well as a religion.
          T0 quote Vinny Barbarino, “Ahm soooo confused”.
          Let me know if my Latin blood disqualifies me.

          • Mergatroyd

            The government certainly knows who is white and who isn’t when it comes to Affirmative Action, preferences in college admissions and, now, neighborhood demographics.

            They are also able to clearly identify who is white when it comes to white interests and white history as white are assigned and scapegoated for all evil.

            Those who hold themselves apart from whites not white, IMO.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            During the Race Card Project period several people used the word “infiltrate” when describing the tribe. I typically use the reference “chameleons”. They mean roughly the same thing.

            Persians, Armenians, Jews (Ashkenazian and the other variants) are members of the Semite race who mix among the western European race and claim to be ‘white’, usually when there’s benefit. They are also a religion when there is other benefits. Chameleons. Whatever works for the moment. This intentional ambiguity, the refusal to declare ‘which side they’re on’ is the source of their persecution.

            As Ann Coulter said recently, when describing how Europeans build great societies: “Shaming is good”.

      • JohnEngelman

        No, but I am a Democrat.

        • Michael Mason

          You decided to become a Democrat after reading this article?

        • Martel

          You voted for Obama twice. Its fine to believe in Socialist Utopia’s, its not fine to threaten the future of whites. Even your precious Jews and Asians will not thrive in a country torn apart by Africans, Latinos, and and Muslim immigrants.

          Asians are physically incompetent, this is why even blacks prefer them as a target over whites. I witnessed quite some bullying over the local timid Chinese immigrants by Negroes. Another note is that they are not considered intelligent here, its a shame I can’t tell more personal stories, though I might in the near future. The dumbest kid in my class was Chinese, that guy was just staring into nothingness after any comment he could not comprehend. He was all right though, he understood my concerns about immigration, the foreign students were appalling, nearly all European students have plenty negative stories about their inability to function during projects. Its explained by the fact that the average Chinese citizen is a worthless peasant.

          • JohnEngelman

            You sound like you were a bully in high school.

            I have posted plenty of statistics plenty of times that demonstrate that Orientals tend to be more intelligent and more creative than white Gentiles. I am tired of pushing facts into narrow minds.

          • Martel

            You are tired of pushing facts into narrow minds?
            Its hard to argue that I have been pushing facts in your narrow mind, it has been quite embarrasing for you.

            I have no issue with accepting that Orientals have a slightly higher average IQ then whites, I have stated this many times before, something which must not register because of the memory issues we have been discussing. I simply provide solid arguments to doubt these claims.

            I find the “creativity” argument comical though, and yes, I am familiar with any “fact” you have posted because you seem to be unable of finding a new argument, you are amazingly repetitive, which may explain why the Asian girls looking to find a white husband in the days when this was beneficial decided a timid, boring Asian husband would be a better choice.

            You may feel like I am bullying you, those who watch us discuss these issues will likely agree but I have never been a bully in school. I sometimes joked around and some feelings got hurt, but as soon as I noticed I always found a way to boost the confidence of the geeks I occasionally socialized with, I actually engaged in humorous self deprecation to lift their nerdy spirits. This is because I am capable of feeling empathy, something you have difficulty with, I believe.

            This is likely the reason behind your perverted comments attacking the rights of whites to identity and unify ethnically, as there is plenty of evidence that Asian immigration is detrimental to the future well-being of European Americans. You are unable to care about these consequences. You could say I am an anti-bully,something which I recognize from my earlier days.

            This is our “relationship”, and unlike your supposed female friends, I will stick around as long as you are on Amren, or until the day you able to see how obviously wrong you are. This must be in a way, a comforting thought.

          • OsRazor

            Can we please put to rest the supposed intellectual superiority of NE Asians as compared to Whites. First, comparing NE Asians to all Whites is kind of silly. If we compared NE Asians to NW and Central Europeans, IQ differences disappear. Alternatively, if we compare all Asians to all Europeans IQ favors Europeans. Second, we need only compare the intellectual, civilizational and cultural accomplishments of NE Asians vis-a-vis all Europeans to see Europeans domination in every respect. If we compare all Asians to all Europeans, the comparison because rather embarrassing to Asians. Finally, it’s becoming more and more obvious that Asians taking the ACT or SAT have been engaged in massive scale cheating for a long while, which no doubt skews results in favor of Asians. It will be really entertaining in the next few generations when the elite schools like Harvard and Yale see a dramatic drop in their contributions as more and more of their alumni are proportionally Asian and even less White.

          • El_Baga_Doucha_Libtard

            The data that I have read does not support the notion that IQ differences disappear when comparing Northeast Asians to Northwest Europeans. The data claiming that whites have an average IQ of 100 is for Northwest Europeans (I believe Europeans have an average IQ of around 98). According to Lynn, white Americans have an average IQ of 103 (still 3 points lower than Northeast Asians).

            Where we whites have the advantage is in our creativity, which is in part due to our verbal IQ (which is about the same, MAYBE slightly higher than that of the Northeast Asians) and our higher levels of psychopathy.

            We are the peak of humanity, but we are at an IQ disadvantage with the Northeast Asians. One need look no further than the differences in our languages to see that we are more creative than they Northeast Asians. They are still using Logographic characters for crying out loud! They use complicated languages that draws pictures (like Egyptian hieroglyphics). These complicated languages are no more able to convey specific points than the Indo-European languages — they are simply more complicated with no added benefit.

            Anyway, I don’t want to disagree with what you say for its own sake, but I want to be sure that people like us can use facts that will change the minds of the Engelmans of the world.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I’ve been making the same argument regularly here at AmRen. Though IQ is probably a third of the equation, it’s all they dwell on here. Science has found considerable differences in the frontal lobe that control such dynamics as judgment and conscience (our capacity for white guilt). Such qualities are difficult to standardize for a universal test. You mention the ‘verbal IQ’ which is another dynamic that is difficult to test for. People also forget the high frequency of ASD in Europeans, dyslexia, high OCPD prevalence, Aspberger’s, etc. In many cases these mutations turn out to be valuable, nation-making specialties.

          • Mergatroyd

            Although the average Asian IQ is higher than the white IQ overall, it is not higher in all respects. Asians score higher than Whites on non-verbal tests but lower than whites on verbal tests.

            J. Philippe Rushton and Richard Lynn have written about racial differences in personality. Compared to whites, Asians are more cautious, less impulsive, less aggressive, less sociable, less psychopathic, and have lower self-regard (the same can be said about whites compared to blacks). Though they have not been studied as extensively as intelligence, racial differences on these scales are so consistent that it makes almost as much sense to speak of a race or group’s “average personality” as it does to speak of its average IQ.

            Asians also have lower levels of testosterone compared to whites (who have less testosterone than blacks), and testosterone is closely associated with aggressiveness, risk-taking, and criminality.

            These differences support the conclusion that the Asian personality is less enquiring or adventurous than that of the Caucasian, less verbal or sociable, and more conformist and submissive. This is not the type of personality that — despite an advantage in average IQ — pushes a society towards the achievements that characterize the West: developing an industrial revolution from scratch, creating modern science, giving birth to analytical philosophy, and evolving many varied forms of political life that value the contribution of the individual.

          • OsRazor

            The stuff I’ve seen says that English, Germans, Scandinavians have average IQs in the low 100s. Southern Europeans in the mid-90s. Hence, an average IQ for all Europeans of about 100.

          • El_Baga_Doucha_Libtard

            I’ve seen those stats too, but I prefer the ones that are used by Lynn/Rushton when comparing the two groups. That way, I can be sure that we’re making an apple-to-apples comparison.

            I’d really like to post more on this topic (because we all seem to be trying to make sense out of history), but I’m incredibly busy until Friday. We all pretty believe the same thing for pretty much the same reasons, but there are some minor differences. I will provide more in-depth replies tonight.

          • JohnEngelman

            there is plenty of evidence that Asian immigration is detrimental to the future well-being of European Americans.

            – Martel

            What is the evidence? Document your assertions.

          • OsRazor

            Can you be that dense? We are commenting about an article telling us Asians are voting democratic at insane levels and you’re asking for documentation how Asians in the US are no good for Whites?

          • Martel

            I’m trying to make people understand, there is something strange about Engelman. He often copies reasonably well written comments about blacks and hispanics, conclusions he probably drew years ago, but he is unable to actually recognize new material.

            There are some who think he does this on purpose, I give him the benefit of the doubt, even though its quite disheartening how he has often claimed he enjoys the displacement of whites, and he is incapable of feeling any compassion for the effects Obama’s presidency has on whites, a man he voted for twice.

          • JohnEngelman

            Actually, I voted for Barack Obama three times. I first voted for him in the 2008 primary. Now I wish Hillary Clinton had won. I think she and Bill have the political savvy to out think and out maneuver the Republicans.

            You like what I write about blacks and Hispanics, but you resent what I write about Jews and Orientals. In each case what I write is the truth.

          • Martel

            I don’t like what you write about blacks and hispanics, its predictable and adds little but repeating what everyone already knows. I have clearly refuted you on both the Asian and the Jewish question as you in every round of our discussions, you are incapable of adding my facts and statistics to your analysis, you are first to ignore it.

            Again, read the article, Asians are susceptible to attempts to exploit their ethnic identity.

            “Among those who did not receive this message, 76 percent of respondents
            identified as Democrats while 24 percent identified as Republicans.
            However, when prompted with the racial microaggression, 87 percent
            identified as Democrats and 13 percent identified as Republicans.”

            This proves they are easily manipulated. I actually do not know if you are aware of this, as you seem to shelter yourself from current political events, but democrats main political program is designed to exploit the irrational ethnic interests of Asians.

            This article proves Asians are little different from blacks and Hispanics who immediately switch sides when democrat propaganda is presented.

          • JohnEngelman

            Asians are susceptible to attempts to exploit their ethnic identity.

            – Martel

            And you think whites should be susceptible to attempts to exploit their ethnic identity.

            I think whites and Orientals should think beyond their ethnic identity. I do not believe we have different interests. We are both jeopardized by affirmative action. We both benefit from effective law enforcement.

          • Martel

            The utopian notions which have led you to the democrat party are inhibiting you from understanding reality, I believe. You may wish to think whites and Asians will move beyond their ethnic interests, but from an evolutionary psychological perspective this is unrealistic, in my opinion impossible. The political establishment and the mainstream media have put on an extraordinary effort to eliminate the ethnic interest of whites, but whites still prefer to live among their own. Please read Taylor’s works, they are of great interest despite your political views, as he documents the almost mythical proportions of the political programs implemented to combat white ethnic interests. It ranges from local municipalities providing subsidies for mixing neighbourhoods, to public service announcements and schoolbook guidelines.

            The data compiled by Taylor in chapter one and seven of his latest book White Identity inform us that trends are moving in the opposite direction. Asians prefer segregation. And to move back to our current topic, there is no way for you to decrease the susceptibility of Asians to ethnically oriented propaganda. The propaganda itself will only increase as the Chinese government wants to control the US Asian community, no different from the activities Russia performs in eastern Europe or Turkey in western Europe. The newly founded Asian organisations which promote Asian ethnic interests will also make efforts to unify Asians under their political umbrella. This propaganda will be impossible to escape.

            Your utopia is a lost cause, for the simple reason that different ethnicities will never be able to live side by side without ethnic tensions and strong desires to live amongst their own. The Asian community is working hard to prove you wrong. I don’t hate individual Asians ,although i admit their personalities often don’t match with mine, this is not an issue, i care little about a few Asians wandering around, but mass immigration will unfold into an ugly conclusion.

          • JohnEngelman

            The growing practice of interracial marriage, and the near universal approval of it are tangible evidence that race consciousness is declining in the United States.

          • Martel

            Again, being repetitive. Taylor documents that Asians show higher levels of segregation and are increasingly engaged in ethnic activism. Statistics also show Asian women are more likely to marry Asian immigrants then before. This very article shows racial consciousness is as high as ever.

            You blatantly ignore several pieces of evidence, which can only mean that I am correct. The comment sections of YouTube, CNN and other media outlets are swamped with comments showing racial consciousness, America has a president who openly support s black nationalism. I could go on endlessly and the fact remains that I am right. Scientific evidence shows we have evolved to prefer our own kind and distrust others, which corroborates the findings of Putnam and Taylor.

            Again, please read Taylor’s works, he is not just an engaging speaker.

          • Mergatroyd

            Martel: You must realize when you engage with Engelman that you are dealing with a psychopathic anti-White.

            Who else but a psychopath would try to justify and rationalize the elimination and race-replacement of an entire race of people (the White race) at the hands of Asians?

          • Martel

            His comments about whites are disturbing, it shows a complete lack of empathy for the lives of white people. It may be a sign of his inability to feel empathy in general.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            My general motto is to be empathetic to everyone while discussing White racial interests with both race realist and race denialist. Many lives depend on our ability to feel empathy, and those lives include our own. Race realism is harmless when we can feel empathy, but it might become as dangerous as liberalism if we have unempathetic psychopathic would-be mass murderers in our ranks.

          • Mergatroyd

            You have a profound lack of knowledge of Asians and their history.

            They are neither a compassionate nor fair people and won’t hesitate to eliminate you as they eliminated 60 or so million of their own people during Mao’s bloody reign.

          • Good Lord, you’re a foolish man!

          • WR_the_realist

            I am very proud to say I never voted for Obama, never voted for Hillary, never voted for McCain, and never voted for Romney. It would be nice to have a party that could win elections and wasn’t awful.

          • Andy

            Which Democratic policies do you like better than Republican ones?

            I like that they’re less likely to go to war and are less swayed by powerful corporations, but almost all of their policies seem idiotic to me. (Though only slightly more idiotic than Republicans’.) Open borders? Gun control? More “help” for the underclass? “Social justice” in the classroom? Socialized healthcare in a country with a huge number of blacks and illegal immigrants? Hate speech laws? Banning homeschooling? Just about everything they come up with seems either foolish or evil to me.

          • JohnEngelman

            The leaders of the Republican Party usually favor open borders because more immigrants mean lower wages and higher profits.

            President Clinton signed the Welfare Reform Act of 1996 which meant that Aid to Families with Dependent Children was no longer a life time entitlement.

          • Mergatroyd

            What you write is your OPINION which you try to pass off as truth.

            I have seen no facts or data from you proving your OPINION that Whites are less creative than Asians and therefore should cede their homelands to them.

            You are an anti-White who supports the genocide of the White race through race replacement and have said as much.

            Here’s the documentation for you and everyone else:

            –More proof that whites will end up foot servants for the more intelligent peoples. I for one can’t wait to welcome my Oriental overlords when most work is completely automated and we lesser peoples will have to serve our natural masters. With their higher intelligence, we will be treated with compassion and fairness.

            –Engelman

            Anyone else here who thinks those “nice” Asians will treat Whites with compassion and fairness when they are our overlords?

            I defy Engelman to provide proof of Asian compassion toward other races.

          • JohnEngelman

            Oriental countries could be more generous with foreign aid, but then again so could the United States. Although foreign aid is only one percent of the federal budget, most Americans would like to reduce it.

          • White Dragon

            Methinks Engleman is a ‘plant’.

          • NM156

            You’re new here, aren’t you? XD

          • Jotun Hunter

            he is the greatest annoyance of our modern age.

          • JohnEngelman

            That is what I am asking for. You have not provided it.

            The Republican Party exists to advance the economic interests of the richest ten percent of the country.

            In “What’s the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America” Thomas Frank pointed out that Republicans love to lose on social issues.

          • OsRazor

            I have no patience for the Republican party–I find almost all of them reprehensible, but if politics is warfare by other means (suppressed violence if you like), I’ll vote Republicans simply because Democrats have declared open war on Whites. Asians seem to have recognized that fact and are voting accordingly. That basic fact seems to escape you.

            In terms of the economic interests of the top 10%, you’re running a really, really old playbook. Look at any demographic sampling of recent elections and you’ll find that the top 10% are voting for Democrats. They do so for a host of reasons, but among the top reason is that they know they have no need to fear Democrats undermining their wealth or power. Republicans are scum for not appreciating this fact and for not openly advancing the interests of Whites.

            What Frank is saying is that Whites should simply die and go away, send their daughters and sons off to interracial breeding camps and be done with. It annoys him that Whites will not do this, not submit, not remain as the final obstacle to a far better world he envisions in which he and his sort dictate the terms of life and death.

          • JohnEngelman

            What Frank is saying is that Whites should simply die and go away, send their daughters and sons off to interracial breeding camps and be done with.

            – OsRazor

            I read the book. I do not remember him saying that. What you say is an example of the straw man fallacy.

          • OsRazor

            Frank’s book was the same as Barry’s “clinging to guns and religion” comment. Both despise the Whites to whom they are condescending because the “guns and religion” of Whites are the only things that stand in the way of an outright confiscation of White wealth and progeny. If you cannot appreciate that, what’s the point of talking about it further?

          • silviosilver

            Engelman isn’t your friend, OsRazor. He is fully in support of the racial replacement of white people. He occasionally attempts to deny that the final outcome of wanton mixing must be white extinction but when called out he’ll shift to claiming it’s inevitable and a good thing in its own right (once even preposterously asserting that the entire globe would meld and that the resultant population mix would have a “higher IQ”). In his own words he “envies” Derbyshire’s ability to attract to his Chinese wife.

            He isn’t merely permitted to spew his tommyrot here in drive-by postings, he’s firmly entrenched. It clearly annoys readers but Amren higher ups apparently believe this helps their cause.

          • JohnEngelman

            Although rich people often vote Democrat, and although poor whites usually vote Republican, the Republican Party advances the interests of rich people.

            Tax cuts for the rich do not lead to jobs for the unemployed. They mean tax increases for the rest of us, cuts in government programs that benefit us, and/or more national debt.

          • WR_the_realist

            Republicans can get away with that because the poor whites can not bring themselves to vote for the party of Al Sharpton. It has been a very long time since any electable party cared about poor and working class whites.

          • JohnEngelman

            It has been a very long time since any electable party cared about poor and working class whites.

            – WR_the_realist

            What you say is unfortunately true.

          • Dave4088

            Sounds like a modern day Morgenthau plan for American whites. I wonder what ethnic group Mr. Frank belongs to?

          • Mergatroyd

            Your last paragraph sums up Engelman’s position as well.

            What galls me is that Jared Taylor and the systems admins let him go on and gloat about White race replacement on a White issues site.

          • Martel

            Do you literally forget about twenty of our last discussions where i provided evidence from Taylor’s book, which you clearly still not have read?

            Did you read this article?

          • Mergatroyd

            Jared Taylor says about Asians, “they are not us.”

            As someone else pointed out, Engelman believes Mr. Taylor created American Renaissance to advocate for a United States that replaces white Americans with Asians because their average IQ is higher.

          • Martel

            You quoted Taylor in your latest comment. Which is senseless as Taylor himself describes why Asians do not fit in well in a European society. He simply states Asians are preferred compared to other immigrants, with which I agree to a certain extent. Likely to the same extent Taylor does.

            . The statistics on Asians are clearly skewed due to the initial wave of high quality immigration, Asians in the Netherlands make no such impression,probably because it was easier to immigrate to the Netherlands and my country is less attractive to ambitious and successful Asians, we attracted average Asians. America will likely attract Asians which match the patterns in the peasant societies of Asia in the future. Even so, none of this refutes my point that the seeds for ethnic conflict between Asians and Whites have been sown, and it is at this point inevitable. Asians are aggressively engaging in ethnic activism. In Universities and colleges they prefer to stick to their own, and push their own agenda as they are now doing on a national scale.

            This article shows that Asians actually believe in the fictitious leftist concept of “micro-agressions” and it influences them to a great degree in their decision to pick a political party.This is the main point of this article which shows Asians are incompatible with American society as they follow the tendencies of other minorities. It also invalidates the notion that their supposed slightly higher average intelligence is a relevant factor in their ability to integrate successfully in American society. The facts Taylor has compiled on Asian segregation again confirm this, I have shown you these statistics before, but will again when I’m convinced you have actually forgotten them.

            I do consider your forgetfulness a possible reason for the repetitiveness of your comments.

          • JohnEngelman

            The term “Asian” does not distinguish between the inhabitants of China, Korea, Japan, and Vietnam – who continue to do well in the Untied States – and Muslims. That is why I like to use the term “Oriental.”

          • Martel

            In my country, Chinese immigrants are often the victim of assassinations related to criminal activities. I will see if I can get some statistics, but without a doubt, per capita, this is way above the average of Dutch citizens. There actually no Dutchmen in the Most Wanted List, but one Chinese citizen.

            http://avro dot nl/opsporingverzocht/overview/gezocht/

          • Jotun Hunter

            don’t bother with his endless cry for ‘statistics’ – he’s only trying to waste your time. Don’t allow him to frame the debate on his own gimpy terms.

          • Martel

            I can’t comment on your latest reply as you don’t use ‘dots’when providing a link. I am not opposed to the idea that Asians are less prone to criminal behaviour in the US, but in the Netherlands and possibly the rest of Europe this isn’t the case. They likely are equal or rank slightly above the Dutch. US Asian crime rates are also understated due to the fact that Asian gangs tend to target their own, and its a well known fact that Asians are hesitant about reporting crime to the police, as I believe the DOJ has documented.

            I wonder what per capita data on whites vs Asian or perhaps specifically southern asian gang activity looks like. Unfortunately whites will include armenians , Russians and eastern Europeans.

          • Mergatroyd

            Document your assertions that Asians are more creative than Whites.

          • Paul

            The creativity question is answered simply by their languages. English language is 26 letters and form all words and communication. Chinese just keep adding more and more letters till you have thousands.No creativity

          • Martel

            Good point. Also, its 2014 and no one wants to be born in China.

          • El_Baga_Doucha_Libtard

            Can you please tell me the fact or facts that Engelman has posted about Northeast Asians have superior creativity to whites? I’m very interested to look into that. Please read my post responding to Engelman to get my view on the matter.

          • Mergatroyd

            Demand that Engelman post the facts, he’s the one that keeps making the claim, not Martel.

            Engelman keeps making this claim about Asian creativity over Whites as “truth” but so far I’ve never seen him post one single source, fact or data, only his warped OPINION.

          • Paul

            ‘Orientals tend to be more intelligent and more creative than white Gentiles’??

            Please Amren. Nothing more needs to be said. It’s time to ban this troll.

          • JohnEngelman

            Why? Because I tell the truth about racial differences?

            Read this passage by Thomas Jefferson at the top of this page, “There is not a truth existing which I fear of would wish unknown to the whole world.”

          • Paul

            Because you’re on the wrong site! The bulk of the readers here are white gentiles. And they come here to get away from kooks. Not listen to their crackpot theories. Look around you. Asians created nothing.

          • Jotun Hunter

            you are the keeper of the ‘truth’ – everything you say is pure, 100% truth – you have figured EVERYTHING out. The childish, blustering ego… the unwarranted, time-wasting conversations… sigh

          • Mergatroyd

            Since you’re so fond of Jefferson and the “truth,” here’s another Jefferson quote that sums up your comments perfectly:

            “He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”

            — Thomas Jefferson

          • JohnEngelman

            I find it easy to explain my admiration for Jews and Orientals by quoting material I find on this website. That information is not “filled with falsehoods and errors.”

          • Martel

            On a sidenote, it seems you have not talked to Asians in a while. They are no longer the shy immigrants begging for a Caucasian friend, they aggressively pursue their own ethnic interests now. Taylor discusses this in great detail, I don’t understand how you are a resident at Amren but do not read his books. Is your repetitiveness reflected in your behaviour and you are simply unable to move on from Amren as well?

          • El_Baga_Doucha_Libtard

            Whoa! I oftentimes agree with what you say, but Asians are not more creative than whites. More intelligent? Yes. More creative? Absolutely not! I am an AmRen poster who has been guilty of choosing to ignore facts in the past, so I think that I can speak with some degree of credibility here.

            Whites occupy the sweet spot of intelligence and psychopathy, while Northeast Asians (NEA) are simply intelligent (more intelligent than whites). Creativity REQUIRES some degree of psychopathy and NEA just don’t have it. If you Google “Are Asians Creative” and view the article written on The Pesky Truth, you can read the article that I wrote about this very topic.

            Two genetic alleles go a long way in explaining why we are more creative than NEA:

            1. The 7 repeat allele of DRD4, which has been linked to creativity, is almost completely absent in the NEA population (they have a toned-down 2 repeat allele).

            2. NEA are more likely to have the shorter allele of 5HTT, which is linked to collectivism (which is, of course, inversely related to creativity).

            Lets also not forget that NEA have lower levels of testosterone than we do and high testosterone combined with high intelligence are good for the creative process.

            You’re simply mistaken about your creativity comment.

          • Jotun Hunter

            you have posted nothing of any value – you have not decidedly determined a single thing – except to yourself. You are naive in the extreme. Will this be deleted?

          • Andy

            Where did you post evidence that Orientals were more creative? This seems obviously untrue to me based on history. I am no expert in their literature, but I have gotten the impression (from that book by Charles Murray) that it is quite limited, and their visual art doesn’t seem to surpass whites’. I also mapped out Wikipedia’s list of important human inventions, and relatively few were in the Orient.

            As for intelligence, I have thought that was obviously true for a long time. However, more recently I’ve heard that international exams may not represent the general Chinese population (done only in wealthy Chinese districts) as well as the general American one, and it is quite possible that Orientals in America may also not represent the average from their home countries.

          • William Krapek

            Well I don’t visit this site every day, but I’ve never seen you publish reliable statistics proving that. We Westerners have a history of creativity going back 40,000 years. Where do you think the Chinese got the bow and arrow and martial arts?

            I’m tired of this Asian/Jewish supremacy nonsense. I think you should take that somewhere else.

          • Mergatroyd

            You are wrong about Asian creativity and intelligence as you are about so many things.

            If Asians are more creative than White gentiles, where is the evidence? The fact that Whites created the high tech, first world civilization that you live in disproves your post. You are also using a White language and White technology, not Asian technology as you write your anti-White screeds.

            What is with you Engelman? Why do you find such pleasure in disparaging Whites? What is your purpose in doing that on thread after thread after thread on a White issues site?

            Why is it you wish the White race to disappear? Why do you promote the race-replacement of White by Asians and Jews?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Jealousy. Plain and simple. He’ll never be one of the cool kids.

          • Andy

            The fact there was one dumb Chinese kid in your class doesn’t mean that Chinese in general are dumber than whites in general.

          • Martel

            Wow, really?

  • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

    This jibes with my own observations. Ironically it’s the FOB (“Fresh Off the Boat”) Asians who display the most friendliness and solidarity with Whites in general and conservative Whites in particular. Asians born here are fully on board with the prickly envy and barely concealed hatred that liberalism encourages – since they act more or less White, any acknowledgment that they’re not, no matter how innocent, innocuous or even positive, just invites them to lash out. No amount of liberal groveling with pacify them either, and I see the potential for deep divisions among the Demonrats once we are gone. They feel a similar “stuck between two worlds” alienation from their families and home countries too, and who do they blame? Whites of course. We’re always to blame.

    • Jesse James

      The ones who have been here for awhile have picked up on how the racial spoils game is played and they are just cashing in. Funny how the Asians like to despise American blacks but note how quick they are to take advantage of affirmative action that wasn’t originally even designed for their benefit but was meant to help raise the ancestors of black slaves out of poverty. The Democrats also actively court the Asians as part of their coalition of non-whites, gay and liberal women to assist in bringing down white men.

      I have a suggestion for every Asian who feels alienated from white America. Return to your home country as soon as possible. Why stay where you are uncomfortable?

      • benvad

        Here here.

      • sbuffalonative

        Yes, they quickly learn that a racial grievance is an easy avenue to advancement.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        There is a certain Rabbi here who would argue that an Asian double-dipping the system is a person with a high IQ. Ahem.

    • So CAL Snowman

      In my observations the FOB Asian women try to find a White american husband as fast as humanly possible. They work their charms on naive, weak, White boys that have trouble “getting some” from our wonderful White women. I can’t tell you how many effeminate, weak, White guys I see with Asian wives/girlfriends that can barely speak a word of English.

      • Luke N

        Wonderful white women!!! Are you nuts? White women are some of the most bossy, aggressive beasts in the world. It is no surprise that white men–and we are the ones who can pick–prefer the civilized, feminine, tame and docile Asian woman.
        My son is dating a white looking fillipino. Simply the best. I am glad he is not dating some white harlot. And better yet, they will produce white kids.

        • Extropico

          Down vote. With prejudice.

          • LovelyNordicHeidi

            Make that two down votes with prejudice!

          • Extropico

            Vielen Dank für Ihre Unterstützung!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            De jeugd van tegenwoordig.

          • Extropico

            Kun je Nederlands spreekt of heb je een vertaler gebruiken?

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Ik gebruikte een vertaler. Ik grap rond met Heidi gebruiken. Het beangstigt waarschijnlijk ongedierte zoals Morris als hij ziet dat de Duitse soort taal wordt geschreven. Heb je Morris. Maakte je kijkt. Nu met pensioen en noemt jezelf een mislukking.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I feel inadequate these days without my down vote.
            I’m sure that makes the Rabbi happy…<;-)

        • LovelyNordicHeidi

          White women are some of the most bossy, aggressive beasts in the world.

          Add a “non” before the word “White” and then you are talking sense. I know myself, and I do not need to defend the fact that White women are not “the most bossy, aggressive beasts in the world.” You are just telling an outrageous lie. If you think otherwise, then back up your claim with evidence.

          Oh, and my children will never be dating non-Whites. Only pure-bred Whites. Be proud of your mulatto grandchild and whatever-race son. I don’t care about what you’re proud of.

        • jaxzax

          White looking filipino – blonde hair and blue eyes. Go away you plank

      • Mergatroyd

        They do this so they can marry the guy, bring over 90 of their closest relatives and then drain the moron’s life savings before they divorce him.

        No sympathy from me, those white guys get everything they deserve and more for foisting this on us Whites in White homelands.

  • dd121

    Republicans are completely delusional if they think ANY minority or manufactured aggrieved group will ever align with them. The Democrats have the market cornered on victimhood.

    • Alfred the Great

      I think that many minorities vote with one criterion: anybody who ain’t white.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        That’s because white men are the only ones without a trough to slop from.

        They are the sloppers, we are the sloppees.

    • Luke N

      Asian women who marry whites are some of the most ardent conservatives. If women breed with white men I have no problem. White women are turning into feminist aminals. And the kids come out white looking. Russians are a mix with white and Asian and they all are fine looking. I support limited immigration of Asian women, not men.

      • LovelyNordicHeidi

        I don’t support Asian immigration at all. They’re not pro-White and they’re not like us. We need more people like ourselves, and less people who are not like ourselves. Period.

      • jaxzax

        Russians are white Europeans -they are not a mix of Asians, clearly someone who is a typical ignorant american who has not travelled – you dont get red haired green eyed asians last time i checked.

        • slash345

          Pure blood asians don’t. But there are asians who have blonde hair and blue eyes.

          Lots of mongolians have white traits.

          And that’s a result of either european conquests east or mongolian hordes retreating back to mongolia from their westward conquest where they raped countless millions of white women which is what modern day mongolians are a result of. Raped white women.

          • Andy

            The Mongols have probably always had some genetic connection to whites, as have Siberians and to a lesser extent Japanese and possibly Koreans. Along with the white traits (which existed in populations that had not previously invaded western Asia), our languages are distantly connected.

    • slash345

      Depends.

      The democrats could royally f*ck up and burn bridges with minorities in a blink of an eye. Those democrats tend to over step their lines quite a bit.

      • dd121

        They’ve already taught them to hate whites with every fiber of their being. The lid is still on the pressure cooker, just barely.

  • Rhialto

    Why? Because most Asians have at least average intelligence, and they know the Repubs are losers. The Repub is a useless legacy of American politics that exists only to elect Republicans. The Dems will do more for Asians in the immediate future; in the long run, the Asians will be relying on their own political groups to advance Asian interests.

    That “experiment” was flawed. The remarks may have been the same, but the context was different. For example, an MD once complemented me on my knowledge of anatomy, which is pretty good for a non-medical type. If he had said that to another MD, it would have been insulting, as I showed only basic knowledge that all MDs should have.

    • Martel

      ‘Because most Asians have at least average intelligence, and they know the Repubs are losers’

      Impressed, almost as good as an argument as “I want my obama -moneys”.

  • Dave4088

    Well this revelation should come as a death blow to the Amren sinophiles who always claimed whites and Asians were natural allies owing to the high average intelligence of both races. As with blacks and browns, Asians are increasingly voting Democrat because it represents a vote AGAINST the white majority hosts who graciously gave them quarter in this nation via our insane immigration policies that favors them and other on-whites.

    • benvad

      Of course we’re not allies.

  • Extropico

    Why do Asians vote Democrat?

    1) It is more comfortable to be a minority in an all minority Democrat party than to be the minority in a traditional majority all-American White GOP;

    2) Democrats much more in favor of one way mass migration-Asia must not become majority White and Black!;

    3) Most Asians really despise Neocon warmongering;

    4) Most Asians are not passionate about Judeo-Christianity.

    5) Affirmative action and other government benefits for a portion of them.

    • Pro_Whitey

      I agree. I think they are willing to play both sides of the street, and if whites are going to cede power to minorities in general, then it behooves them to be among the recipient minorities. No need to be a passenger on what appears to be a sinking ship. As the California affirmative action dispute shows, they are out for themselves, and will act in concert to defend their interests to the detriment of other minorities, so the solidarity is a sham.

    • MBlanc46

      Pretty good analysis, especially 1, 3, and 4.

      • Extropico

        Thank you, sir.

  • Even though Asians are considered the ‘model minority’ by many, they almost always align with Leftists against the interests of whites. Even though they are far more intelligent than blacks and the Mexican invaders, they vote for the same dumb things that the lower-IQ folks do.

    I tend to think that many of them just don’t understand the issues at stake or that it’s often the result of their compliant, ‘go with the flow’ natures. I’ve rarely met Asians who seem to understand the issues and deeper implications of political matters. Other Asians, however, wrongly think that standing with Leftist racial causes will help them. For now it will. But later, if and when whites are removed from the picture, the black and brown people will turn against them because of their higher levels of intelligence, achievement, income, and opportunities. In other words, they will be treated as whites are now.

    • benvad

      In the case of Chinese immigrant, they’re just trying to destabilize America, for their homelands benefit. Their allegiance is always with their race.

      • Mergatroyd

        They cannot create technology on their own so they come here to steal what the White man has innovated.

    • John R

      EXACTLY! Blacks, from my experience, actually hate them more than they do Whites.

    • Truthseeker

      That’s absolutely true. Marxism is a system of identifying everyone as either an oppressor or one of the oppressed, and they determine who’s who by judging who has more in proportion to others. Because Asians out-achieve blacks and Mexicans, they’ll become the new “oppressors.” There’s already resentment against Asians growing among blacks.

  • r j p

    Asians are democrats because of the people they meet when registering to become citizens. I doubt very few conservatives work in ASCME or federal jobs, so the indoctrination process probably starts as soon as they get off the boat.

    • That’s an excellent point, especially when one considers the relatively few conservatives working federal jobs. Even the few who do are unlikely to voice their conservative or Republican political views when so many working around them are hard-core Democrats.

    • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

      In many parts of Asia working for the gov’t is considered rather prestigious. The missing Malaysian airliner has shown that there are petty, incompetent bureaucrats in Asia too, but without affirmative action, if you work for gov’t then your family has the connections to get you that job. That sort of corruption is common throughout the third world, which many Asian countries still are regardless of how wealthy they’ve become.

  • Martel

    Its clear that overly sensitive Asian-Americans are not suitable to live in a free society according to European-American values. The fact that they believe “micro-agression’ is a valid concept demonstrates that they are just as ready to enter the Grievance Industry as as blacks and hispanics who have gone before them. It also demonstrates that their supposed higher average intelligence doesn’t have a positive contribution on their political views.

    • John R

      Interesting point: “micro aggression.” I am usually not anti-Semitic, but in this Asians are very much like Jews. They are a group of intelligent, hard working people, who don’t normally commit violent crime, but through their feelings of alienation from Whites, will vote along with people that hate them just to spite the people that aren’t “nice and accepting” enough for them.

      • benvad

        That’s our problem exactly.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      The social engineers within the Libtardian Party here stateside call this new construct: “…micro inequities…”

      Something along the lines of Oprah Windbag’s racist detection goggles she wears.

      Oh, she “…just knows…”.

      I think Shirley Sherrod also owns a pair.

      • Martel

        Interesting term, I will read more about it.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          That’s what the Cultural Marxist commissars force-feed their drones at federal agencies and contractors. I sat through many such cringe festivals.

    • Mergatroyd

      From our own guru, Jared Taylor, “Asian Put Foot in Racial Spoils Trough,”

      “Asians—those smart, hard-working people you’ve always been told believe in merit and would never act like theNAACP or La Raza—have joined the racial spoils system.They have gotten in right at the top, and they are playing dirty. They have extracted pandering promises from all theDemocratic candidates for president—promises Al Sharpton would be proud to get for blacks—and have treated the candidates like fools for good measure. Barack Obama is the only Democrat to come out of this with at least a shred of self-respect.”

      httpCOLON//wwwDOTvdareDOTcom/articles/asians-put-foot-in-racial-spoils-trough

      • Martel

        Great source, thanks.

  • So CAL Snowman

    Asians are not White. White people are routinely demonized in the media in this day and age. The Republican party is seen by all as the party of evil, White, old, racist conservatives. This is not rocket science.

  • John R

    I am really annoyed at Asians choosing Democrats over Republicans. If they were voting their pocketbooks they would indeed be natural Republicans. But they have chosen to jump on the “people of color” bandwagon, perhaps because they think they will get all the goodies and attention that the blacks and Hispanics currently get. But what really annoys me, is their hypersensitivity to White Americans.
    White American racism: “Excuse me, I noticed that you speak very good English.”
    Black (understandable) reaction to Asians: “I iz gonna F*&K up youz chop sewy azz, you chinky mutha f&*ka!”
    I have lost all sympathy to chinks who are victimized by blacks.

    • benvad

      They’re looking out for their own interests, of course. They get beaten by blacks is a good thing.

    • pcmustgo

      They hate being asked “Where are you from/Which Asian country did your parents immigrate from?” and also “I love your food”

      • pcmustgo

        They don’t seem to get #1 is rational given they are from very recent immigrant backgrounds. The immigrant background thing is critical with them- they feel a void/a vacum with the past, our history, our handed down culture, be it music or whatever. Many asians openly told me they don’t identify with america or it’s past or even view it as home, despite immigrating here as babies.

  • OsRazor

    They vote democrat because they hate us. All other races hates whites. Why? Because we’re objectively more accomplished, more beautiful and happier than they are. Our existence confirms their inadequacies. What comes naturally to us, individualism, command, creativity and curiosity, is a struggle for them. Whites have forgotten it, but not too long ago one or two white men could pretty much run an entire non-White people (much better than their own elite) and still have time for tea in the evening. They have not forgotten this and they still resent it. No matter how much they try to be like us they fail. And when they live among us, day-to-day, here in the US, that hatred multiples, becomes all-encompassing. Why is this so difficult to understand? Anyway they can injure us, speed our passing from this earth, they will do.

    • Jerrybear

      I guess people are quick to forget that Europeans more or less conquered Asia in the late 19th century and early 20th century. There was also this little war between Japan and America where we dropped two nuclear bombs on them and kicked their butts out of the Pacific. The Asians didn’t forget.

      • Jesse James

        I doubt the Chinese, who we were supporting in the war, wept a lot of tears for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Though they had plenty of other grievances against the whites, not the least of which was the humiliation of having some of their ports and territory ceded to European control and being the target market for the English opium business.

        The funny thing about Japan was that we were setting them up to be the Anglo-Saxons of the orient. No less a man than Theodore Roosevelt put the Japanese on the course of empire by pointing towards Korea. Imagine how betrayed they must have felt when another American administration started condemning Japans expansion into China.

        • OsRazor

          Two points. Asians living in the US see and have much more in common with one another than they do with Whites. Sure, a China man will look down at a Filipino or a Vietnamese, but he will advance either in the US instead of a White if he has a choice. As the article notes, when he has a choice he votes anti-White. How or what Asians feel living in their native lands vis-a-vis their neighbors and competitors is simply irrelevant to how their fear and hatred of Whites in the US when the Asian is living in the US and sees himself as a minority.

          Next, can we please put to rest the supposed intellectual superiority of NE Asians as compared to Whites. First, comparing NE Asians to all Whites is kind of silly. If we compared NE Asians to NW and Central Europeans, IQ differences disappear. Alternatively, if we compare all Asians to all Europeans IQ favors Europeans. Second, we need only compare the intellectual, civilizational and cultural accomplishments of NE Asians vis-a-vis all Europeans to see Europeans domination in every respect. If we compare all Asians to all Europeans, the comparison because rather embarrassing to Asians. Finally, it’s becoming more and more obvious that Asians taking the ACT or SAT have been engaged in massive scale cheating for a long while, which no doubt skews results in favor of Asians. It will be really entertaining in the next few generations when the elite schools like Harvard and Yale see a dramatic drop in their contributions as more and more of their alumni are proportionally Asian and even less White.

          • Jesse James

            Actually I made no claims whatsoever regarding NE Asian intelligence. I just mentioned a historical fact about Japan that I think is interesting since we eventually ended up having to fight them over an empire we (in the person of Teddy Roosevelt) originally urged them to create.

      • Tim_in_Indiana

        The bombs weren’t dropped by a Republican.

        • Jerrybear

          They were dropped by white males and Democrats are openly hostile to white males.

      • Cogra Bro

        The Japanese did some warmongering and Empire building on their own account (5.90,000 dead according to R J Rummel, Death by Government).

        Likewise the Chinese Empire continues with the oppression of Xinjiang, the annexation of Tibet and the obliteration of Manchuria and Inner Mongolia, not to mention the non – Han peoples of the West and Southwest.

      • We also sank their whole navy and turned Marines loose upon them on the ground.

    • WR_the_realist

      The Asians I know don’t hate whites. Asian men can find plenty of pretty Asian women to marry, so I don’t think they’re envious of our looks. The Asians I know are about as accomplished as the educated whites I know, so I don’t think there’s much envy there either.

      • Mergatroyd

        They certainly are envious of our looks and spend big money to have eye surgery to make their eyes rounder, hair bleach to lighten their hair and plastic surgery to make their faces more like those of the “hated” European.

        They may hate us but they certainly want to look like us.

        • WR_the_realist

          When I see how many whites get plastic surgery it is plain that white people spend way too much time being envious of other white people’s looks.

    • Cogra Bro

      The British ran India with just a few thousand Civil Servants and an Empire One Quarter of the World in extent with just a few thousand more.

      • Mergatroyd

        The British also built the roads, rail lines and other infrastructure. Imagine India now if the British had never been there.

  • Luca

    Because Republicans are not whoring themselves out to minorities on a wholesale level they are portrayed by the liberal media as White Racists.

    Most Asians come from countries with a history of government oppression, especially China. When they come here and know they can actually get benefits from the government, they are all for it. Regardless of intelligence, there is a greed factor that must be recognized. Some folks, regardless of IQ, just don’t have a problem taking something they haven’t earned.

    • benvad

      That’s all culture. Our culture is a big problem for us, we assume that others think the same way. We’re the fools!

      • Luca

        That is the problem with multiculturalism.

  • Asians act in their own perceived self interest. They mistakenly think that a nonwhite takeover of America will benefit them. Just ask the Asian store owners burned out in the LA riots in …?92 whether nonwhites are their buddies. I view Asians the same way I do white liberal Democrats. They are an enemy to be confronted and ultimately defeated.

    • benvad

      I hope they pay with their blood. You play with dangerous animals and then they’ll turn in you.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Speaking to that central point. I had the same notion about the feminists. One of their many bumper stickers is “Ending the Patriarchy”. The system they’re dismantling has benevolent patriarchs: white men. When you remove them, African, Latin, and Asian savages will fill that patriarchal vacuum–not women.

  • Bossman

    That is a very easy question to answer. Since 911, the Republicans have transformed themselves into a party of paranoia and xenophobia. Asians still feel like aliens in the USA. Most of them are not Christians, they also know that until recently, they were excluded from entering the USA.

    • Martel

      Recently?

      • Bossman

        As I understand it from reading, in the year 1964, only 120 people were admitted into the USA from all of Asia. It is only after WWII that very small quantities of Asians were allowed to immigrate to the USA.

        • Martel

          Sounds good. I never heard that so I doubt anyone coming of the boat did.

        • Mergatroyd

          Then they should have stayed in their own countries. Japan has one of the fiercest anti-immigration policies on the face of the earth. Japan does not let foreigners vote and kicks them out all the time. Japan is RICH and has a horrendous colonial history.

          Let’s say I went over to China and demanded preferences for my children in their businesses and universities over Chinese children, screaming about “Asian privilege” in China and that they needed to import more non-Asians to become diverse, because after all Diversity is a Strength.

          They’d put a bullet in my head immediately.

          Seems to you it is A-OK to import Asian wholesale into the U.S. but if Whites want to colonize Asian countries and demand rights, well that is evil colonialism and bigotry. A bit hypocritical, don’t you think?

          If Asians wish to remain Asian, that is OK with me and I demand the same RIGHT for my own people, Whites in White homelands.

      • John R

        Yeah. I caught that, too. Just like slavery existed “recently” in the United States.

  • Roninf9

    1. Asian society is communal and easily accepts socialism.

    2. Asians have no compunction taking advantage of the welfare state. Its the white man’s fault for being dumb enough to hand out free money.

    3. The Republican Party is seen as the party of White men with guns. Asians stick together and see us as “the other” – lazy, not so bright, and possibly threatening.

    Asians as a group have their own ways and habits, which is fine for their own society but, as a group, they are not compatible with our individualistic, Christian society. But you can say that about any non-White group.

    End ALL immigration immediately.

    • LovelyNordicHeidi

      Send back whoever fails at a DNA test for European ancestry.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        We will have to expedite your U.S. citizenship when we rescue Mother America from the termites…<;-D

  • Larry Klein

    The average Asian feels just as persecuted as the average black. Not a surprise, racial or sexual victimhood is practically a citizenship requirement these days. They are also taught it back in their homeland. Make an Asian a manager in your company and sooner or later whole departments will resemble Bangalore or Chinatown. They feel entitled to discriminate. Natural conservatives. Another consultant ‘s pipe dream

  • Pelagian

    Why? Because limited government only makes sense to whites … and Anglo-Celtic whites in the Magna Carta tradition at that.

  • Nathanwartooth

    Republican rhetoric implying that the (non-white) “takers” are
    plundering the (white) “makers” has cultivated a perception that the
    Republican Party is less welcoming of minorities.

    Strange that Republican “dog whistling” is so subtle that not even a super racist like myself can hear it. I need liberals to tell me what they are really saying.

  • MartelC

    Other races know how to play the race card and have no qualms about doing so. I know several secular muslims who laugh at dumb liberals who stood up for ground zero mosque. OF COURSE they are building it as a sign conquest

    • pcmustgo

      Omg, I remember a totally shameless asian chick who pulled a race card on me for absolutely no reason back in college. I was a liberal then too and never discussed politics with her.

  • MartelC

    Orientals are not here to hold hand and sing songs about diversity they are here to conquer.

    • Martel

      They are safeguarding their position. Naturally the Chinese government also has their agents trying to increase the political position of Asians in general by setting up ethnic networks they can control, as they will be able to dictate the moves of minorities who hail from less dominant nations.

    • Mergatroyd

      They come here to steal what the White man created and built because they cannot do it on their own.

      They’re another group that wants a White world without Whites in it.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Asians have no model of limited government, the rule of law and equality under the law, freedom of thought and expression, human rights, federalism or individual rights. The collective and political hierarchy are more important than the individual.

    Most Asians come from socialist or communist countries which best match the ideals of the democratic party. You do as you are told and trust the government to act in your best interest.

    Politically, the Chinese never really moved beyond the state of warlordism or of believing in an absolute ruler who was a god or a man directly in touch with gods. There were attempts to introduce more rational and less absolute forms of government, but these were short lived. Confucianism tried to lay down moral rules for rulers, but that was about the limit of any real attempt to restrain emperors by anything short of violence. Ideas about constitutions restricting what government may do, representative government, or direct democracy never arose in Chinese society. In the West, the ideal of individual political participation dates back to the Greeks, and is present in Europe in the Middle Ages. It is completely absent in China.

    Before the Maoist revolution, China never attempted to go beyond a society of a small elite with immense wealth that left the vast majority in abject penury. There is no Chinese tradition of doubting the justice or legitimacy of such a society.

    The Japanese and South Koreans may have formally adopted systems of elective government from European examples, but traditional social relations remain strong. Those countries accept practices that in the West would be considered straightforward bribery, and voters are greatly influenced by collective loyalties. As for China, the Communist elite have managed to retain control while allowing some economic freedom. They have certainly avoided democratization, and the government continues openly to manipulate the law.

    “Why Have Asians Not Dominated?” Robert Henderson, American Renaissance Magazine, Oct. 2009, Vol. 20, No. 10.

    • Northerner

      Regardless if that stuff is actually true or not, the fact is Asian racial integrity is much more intact compared to Whites. You can proclaim Europeans better in other measures of society, but not the arguably most important one.

      • Martel

        The Chinese exchange students in my school still worshipped Mao, a genocidal maniac. The triads are also well represented in Chinese communities, statistics show Asian Americans are less likely to report crimes to the police, which is why their crime rating is underrated.

      • Mergatroyd

        How about this: Asians remain in Asian countries that they created for themselves and leave Whites alone.

        We don’t need a single one in White homelands.

        Deal?

  • Bobbala

    It is a well known fact that a democrats vote is for sale to minorities.

    It is also true that the best way to get preferred treatment from the GOP is to not vote for them, threaten to call them “racist” and finally, publicly brand them with racism.

    Some prominent members even breed their own daughters to minorities in a futile attempt to avoid this fate!

    Asians aren’t stupid.

  • OhWow

    I have always thought this myself. Asians are strict about family values, they make money, they have good jobs, they are responsible, and they are not violent. The only different thing is race.

    I see some on here have problems with them. I personally don’t. Plus, hey…their women love us. Don’t marry em but taking them home isn’t the worst deal ever.

  • JohnEngelman

    Asian Americans as a group have certain characteristics that would ordinarily predict a Republican political affiliation, most strikingly their level of income, which on average, is higher than any other ethnic group in the United States.

    – Alexander Kuo et al., Politico, March 18, 2014

    Jews, who alto tend to be more affluent than white Gentiles, also tend to vote Democratic.

    John Kenneth Galbraith said, “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”

    Most affluent Asian Americans, and most affluent Jews are not motivated by selfishness.

    • sbuffalonative

      Self interest isn’t selfishness?

      • AndrewInterrupted

        You got that right. Both groups Martel mentioned get a multitude of concessions and giveaways that only the Democrats create and protect. The Demo-rats are the parasite party.

    • Martel

      Haha, Jews and Asians support Democrats because of their imagined altruism?
      Is this why the Democrats rake in more funds from businesses then the Republicans too?

      • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

        This is something liberals fail to understand: altruism with other people’s money is not altruism.

    • NoMosqueHere

      Jews vote democrat because they are perfidious or masochistic. The perfidy of the jews is too often overlooked.

      Anwar Sadat understood this when he negotiated the camp david accords with the israelis. He got what he wanted in the deal.

      • JohnEngelman

        What perfidy? Jews are resented by antisemites because of their superior intelligence and prosperity.

        I wish Israel annexed all the land conquered in the Six Day War and deported non Christian Palestinians.

        Nevertheless, since the Camp David Accords there have been 36 years of peace between Israel and Egypt.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          They should have created Palestine in the conquered Sinai and moved them all there. Rather than give it back. Including everyone in Gaza. Much more manageable.

        • Einsatzgrenadier

          Jews are also hated because of their overrepresentation among advocates of progressive, left-wing causes.

          • NoMosqueHere

            And the leftists hate israel because they feel it’s right wing and “insensitive” to the palestinians.

          • Jesse James

            Yep it is hard to stay neutral towards them when every time you look at the front ranks of our enemies there they are shouting and waving their signs around.

          • Mergatroyd

            Like central banks.

        • NoMosqueHere

          And Israel is more vulnerable to attack now than any time since 1967. They ceded land because they want to be loved, and no one will over love them. Even most jews don’t like jews. As Mark Twain once said: Even the warmest heart has a cold place for the jews.

          • Martel

            Noticing Engelman’s reaction, he is unable to think anything negative about Jews, no matter how reasonably you put it. It can be funny, as sad as he is.

          • Andy

            Americans (and most Germans, for that matter) didn’t know about the Holocaust while it was happening.

        • WR_the_realist

          As is well known I’m no Stormfronter, but I think you’re being overly simplistic. I don’t care how much money Michael Bloomberg has, and I don’t doubt that he’s smart. I do care that Michael Bloomberg uses his money to take away our gun rights. I don’t care how much money George Soros has, and I don’t doubt that he’s smart too. I do care that he uses his money to fund far left organizations and promote open borders. Indeed, any time there is a bill to give illegal immigrants amnesty and/or to increase legal immigration you can be certain of this: Every Jewish senator and representative will vote for it, regardless of which party he belongs to. I’m not saying that no Jew wants to reduce immigration or enforce immigration law, but the few who do never get elected to congress.

          Jews also give more money to political causes than just about any other group, and this has consequences, They don’t have the numbers to swing an election in most districts, but they do give 50% of all the donations to the Democratic Party, and about 20% of all donations to the Republican Party. I don’t know what the numbers are for individual candidates’ campaigns, but I’d guess that they’re similar. That is why Jews have political influence way out of proportion to their numbers.

          As for Israel, it’s not my country, and Jewish nationalism was never my project. Never did I wake up in the morning and say, “Gee, I want to take more land from Palestinians today.” I don’t object to any Jew giving his own money to Israel, or going there, joining the IDF, and helping Israel fight her wars. I do object when Jews use their political influence to drag us into a never ending feud that has nothing to do with us.

          While I believe the Stormfronters generalize overmuch, as does Kevin McDonald, it’s not as though there was no basis for complaint other than simple envy.

        • Mergatroyd

          Israel is an apartheid state.

          Jews do well in White-created societies that allow them entry, they’ve been kicked out of 109 countries. Why do you think that is? Hint: It isn’t because of anti-semitism.

          • JohnEngelman

            It angers me that that splendid people have been treated badly. Nevertheless, that bad treatment caused the Ashkenazim to evolve into the most superior race in existence.

            Ironically, that racial superiority has perpetuated antisemitism after Christian persecution ended.

            Fortunately, in the United States Jews are able to develop their talents. That is why they are so prosperous and so powerful.

    • Northerner

      Neither Asians nor Jews have enough population in America to significantly affect voting results. Obama was elected (and re-elected) because Whites voted in large numbers for him. That’s the only important thing to realize.

      • JohnEngelman

        Thank you. A large minority to a bare majority of whites will always vote Democratic. Republicans are unlikely ever to attract majorities of non whites or Jews.

        • The Verdict of History

          “Republicans are unlikely ever to attract majorities of non whites or Jews.”

          I’ll have to contest you on the Jewish question.

          I think I responded to this assertion of yours before, and I’m curious about your take on this theory concerning possible Jewish defection to the American right…

          ——————–

          Trend 1:

          Note that those American Jews with the highest birthrates are those that are ultra-Orthodox.

          They are likely to continue voting Republican, as they do in NYC.

          The vicious (and surprisingly well reported) black hate crimes (and yes, they are ethnically and racially motivated) against them will only help solidify their loyalty to the right. This is particularly true of the Hasidim, who are victims regularly.

          Trend 2:

          Meanwhile, the liberal-progressive Jewish element in this country is intermarrying at an astonishingly high rate. This includes Reformed and Conservative Jews who vote overwhelmingly for the Democrats…

          Their birthrates are low. They will continue to shrink in number (see wikipedia).

          I think this group will continue to give birth to off-spring that will grow increasingly skeptical of the Jewish community’s historic support for mass immigration policy, especially since the costs of this demographic transformation will hurt them acutely.

          How?

          These up and coming cultural Jews resent, and will continue to resent, affirmative action policy in education and employment. As pro-black and pro-brown favoritism becomes forcefully imposed on all domains of social and professional life, even liberal Jews will notice that their formerly secure occupational spheres are vulnerable due to affirmative action hiring and anti-white privilege activism…

          Of course, as demographic change becomes increasingly associated with brown and black crime against whites, financially and materially comfortable suburbanite Jews will notice that they are targets of colored rage as well.

          These pressures will help accelerate the flight of Jews from the Left.

          Trend 3:

          Jewish voters used to vote Democrat in Presidential elections at rates upward toward 90 percent… that level has since fallen to 69 percent (Obama in 2012).

          That may tick up once the intensely pro-Israel Hillary Clinton in is nominated in 2012, but I trust that the Republican Jewish Coalition will continue to succeed in its outreach efforts.

          Observe the trend:

          http://www(dot)jewishvirtuallibrary(dot)org/jsource/US-Israel/jewvote(dot)html

          Trend 4:

          As the Left becomes increasingly hostile toward Israel throughout the Western World (see: the Boycott, Divestments and Sanctions movement), and as Rightist groups grow more sympathetic toward Israel (as a bulwark against Islam), Jews in the US and abroad will come to re-evaluate their allegiance to the Left.

          Some already have [Neocons]: http://www(dot)commentarymagazine(dot)com/

          • Andy

            I have been hopeful about the future of the Jewish race for the same reason. My best friend is a Reform Jew who has one sibling and little interest in children. Her cousin is an Orthodox Jew with a family of nine or ten.

            Being a Christian, I hope of course that these Jews will convert, but worshipping Yahweh while misunderstanding His character is a lot closer to the truth than worshiping Social Justice and the Noble Oppressed. (Especially if you are among the Noble Oppressed.)

          • Mergatroyd

            What’s happening in Israel is that the Orthodox population is growing and the non-Orthodox population is not. The Orthodox are exempted from military service and this has become a HUGE problem, they also suck up a lot of welfare.

            Where are the Orthodox protesting this push in Israel for Orthodox conscription? New York City!

            I’d put up the link but I know if I do my post will be deleted so you’ll have to google it yourself.

        • Mergatroyd

          You’re another one who passes off his OPINION as fact. You have a dearth of knowledge of Asians and their history.

          From Jared Taylor, who you claim prefers Asians over Whites and started this site to promote Asian superiority.

          httpCOLON//wwwDOTvdareDOTcom/articles/asians-put-foot-in-racial-spoils-trough

          “The group behind this is one you never heard of: the so-called 80-20 Initiative. Founded in 1997 by Dr. S. B. Woo, an immigrant from China and former lieutenant governor of Delaware, it gets its name from its proclaimed goal, which is to deliver 80 percent of the Asian vote to candidates it supports, especially in close races where an Asian bloc vote could swing the election.”

          “It is an almost entirely web-based political pressure group, which claims to have an e-mail list of 750,000 Asians it can activate at the touch of a “send” button. In an interview on CNN, Dr. Woo claimed 80-20 can reach 55 percent of the”Asian-American community” within eight hours.”

      • Mergatroyd

        You are wrong and need to stop spreading misinformation on this forum.

        “The group behind this is one you never heard of: the so-called 80-20 Initiative. Founded in 1997 by Dr. S. B. Woo, an immigrant from China and former lieutenant governor of Delaware, it gets its name from its proclaimed goal, which is to deliver 80 percent of the Asian vote to candidates it supports, especially in close races where an Asian bloc vote could swing the election.

        Based on these claims, 80-20 sent letters to all the 2004 candidates, offering its endorsement if they promised to do three things if elected:

        1. Order the Secretary of Labor (who at the moment is Elaine Chao)to hold public hearings on discrimination against Asians,

        2. Order the labor department’s Office of Federal Contract Compliance to crack down if the statistics suggest discrimination, and

        3. Meet with Asian-American leaders two years later to report on progress in the fight against anti-Asian discrimination.

        –Jared Taylor, “Asians Put Foot in Racial Spoils Trough”

    • WR_the_realist

      People who vote Democratic want to be generous with other people’s money. I see nothing particularly laudable about that.

  • Dave4088

    “….most strikingly their level of income, which on average, is higher than any other ethnic group in the United States.”

    Tim Wise needs to explain how in a nation oozing with white skin privilege that Asians have a higher group income than recipients of said white skin privilege.

  • JSS

    A better question is what can we do to get rid of “Asian Americans” and all the other hyphenated colonizers.

  • The real answer is not that hard.

    Asians take their political cues from the people that surround them. They don’t move the political needle, they merely watch where it is and where it’s going and then follow along.

    When California Asians were surrounded by Republicans, they voted for Republicans. Now that they’re surrounded by Democrats, they vote for Democrats.

    St. Louis’s Asian population, controlling for ethnicity and income, bears this out. Asians that live in the city vote Democrat, Asians that live in the new money suburbs vote Republican. Because of who surrounds them.

    • Jesse James

      Interesting observation that plays to the social conformity built into Asian genes, especially with the Chinese who have been living under the rule of civilization for over ten thousand years. The nail that sticks up gets hammered down, the survival strategy that fits best under strong totalitarian central governments is to learn to mimic the majority.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      As long as Asians get Affirmative Action concessions they will always vote Democrat. The Republicans represent small government, self reliance, and fiscal responsibility. The question is moot and/or rhetorical. The Democrats fill the trough the pigs feed from.

      • MBlanc46

        Do they get AA?

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Yes, especially the southeast Asians. ‘Asian’ is a big category.

          I saw some of the most unbelievable coddling of Cambodian
          women at the defense contractor where I worked. Some of them were human wrecking balls. The product suffered greatly. And they were just move to another area–to wreck something else. Many times not even told that their shoddy, careless workmanship had triggered an expensive recall, or had caused delays, etc.

          The only people management found safe to persecute were the hetero, white males. Who, ironically, were doing most of the good work.

          • MBlanc46

            Good point. I tend to think of the Chinese and Koreans, but there are the Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Filipinos as well. In discussing this issue, it would be useful to use more precise categories than “Asian”.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            Read about it over at AdversityDOTnet.
            They have their fingers in the AA cookie jar.

          • Einsatzgrenadier

            Asian should be divided into northeast and southeast categories. Southeast Asians (Vietnamese, Cambodians, Filipinos, Hmong etc.) tend to be underachievers who are less intelligent and do less well economically than whites. They’re also more violent and crime-prone. They’re far more likely to use AA than they’re more docile northeastern cousins.

          • GeneticsareDestiny

            Don’t forget about the Hmong. There’s a ton of them where I live and they definitely get special treatment, though not nearly as much as blacks of course.

      • Northerner

        Asians don’t get AA

        • AndrewInterrupted

          You are sadly mistaken. Glad I could help.
          wwwDOTAdversityDOTnet

        • Mergatroyd

          This again after it’s been debunked so many times on this thread?

          “asians don’t get AA.”…Here we go again !

          Huh, yes they do. Ethnic filipinos, vietnamese, cambodians, and pacific islanders get plenty of direct AA for college admissions while east asians get plenty of scholarships just because of their race, unlike any White student

          Moreover, ALL asians benefit from affirmative action just because of their race in GOVERNMENT OUTREACH CAMPAIGNS, TRAINING PROGRAMS, JOB RECRUITMENT, MANAGEMENT DEVELOPMENT, FEDERAL CONTRACTS as well as from all federal contractors and subcontractors.

          Whites, especially White men who aren’t veterans or disabled, get none of these racial quotas, and it’s about time that this recurring myth that “asians don’t benefit from any affirmative action” dies on Amren once and for all.

          Chinese for Affirmative Action:

          httpCOLON//wwwDOTcaasfDOTorg/

          httpCOLON//wwwDOTscholarshipsDOTcom/fi…

    • MBlanc46

      Interesting bit of data. Thanks.

    • Northerner

      They’re not following the people around them. It’s just that the people surrounding them happen to be of similar circumstances (i.e., SES). Wealthy Asians tend to vote Republican. Poor Asians tend to vote Democrat.

    • Mergatroyd

      They take their political cues from the ethnic leaders who demand more preferences and immigration for Asians and lately, in California, have become very vocal about a bill to overturn Prop 209 because it hurts their ethnic group.

      They don’t care a whit about Whites which is why they don’t belong in White homelands.

  • Michael Mason

    The republicans calls us “racists”… well this article proves that the party’s leaders are idiots.

  • MBlanc46

    It might also be because the Repubs have allowed themselves to be framed as the party of white men. Their attempts to disrupt that framing have been pretty inept.

    • Romulus

      In another article on amren? I believe, or was it vdare, that indicated white males have left the democratic party in droves. In fact, excepting white educated? Females, whites in general have been pouring into the repub party.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        Yeah, I will have to dig that one up. It isn’t more than a few weeks old.

  • slash345

    “”And many Asian-Americans do feel like they don’t get equal treatment. According to the 2008 National Asian American Survey, nearly 40 percent of Asian Americans suffered one of the following forms of racial discrimination in their lifetime: being unfairly denied a job or fired; unfairly denied a promotion at work; unfairly treated by the police; unfairly prevented from renting or buying a home; treated unfairly at a restaurant or other place of service; or been a victim of a hate crime. We found that self-reported racial discrimination was positively correlated with identification with the Democratic Party over the Republican Party.””

    I just want to highlight some things to consider about the above:

    The over whelming majority of Asians live in California or the western half of the country. Whites are, as of yesterday, not the majority ethnic group in that state anymore. That honor goes to the Mexicans.

    The state isn’t exactly a whitetopia. So if those Asians are experiencing any discrimination, most of those cases should be coming from non-white people. I know that there’s alot of tension between blacks, hispanics and asians out there. There’s been many many incidents of blacks attacking asians out in california. There’s tons of stories you can find online just in recent years highlighting vicious assaults of blacks attacking asians. (and vice versa on some occassions)

    So I fiercely question the likely hood of the above being a cause for why Asians didn’t vote republican in 08 and 12.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      As long as they get AA hand-outs they will always vote Democrat. It’s Pavlov’s Dog.

    • WR_the_realist

      Maybe the average Asian doesn’t see any particular reason to start a war with Iran. That was the most notable part of McCain’s platform in 2008.

  • Romulus

    Speaking good Engrish is not the only marker of a true American. Being from north and western Europe is the best defining characteristic. As Americas initial proposition has proven.

  • Einsatzgrenadier

    There was a time in American history, before the middle of the 20th century, when whites recognized that they shared a common racial identity and must therefore look out for each other’s racial interests. This enabled them to carry out a number of massacres against Chinese laborers, pass the Chinese Exclusion Act and enact legislation criminalizing miscegenation between Orientals and whites. As the American multicultural empire crumbles all around white people, they will gradually recover this primordial sense of race consciousness that enabled whites to protect themselves from predatory foreign invaders.

  • Martel

    Moderator, could you stop deleting my comments. Engelman and I enjoy discussing with each other.

    Unless he is personally requesting you that I should back off, something he could easily tell me himself, there is no reason to step in and disrupt our conversations.

    • Northerner

      The mods do this every time. They might as well not post Asian-related articles if they have trouble handling the inevitable cyber minefield.

      • AndrewInterrupted

        No, it’s the group ‘…who shall never be named or criticized…’ he’s talking about.

        • Martel

          Even when I discuss Asians I get smacked around by the mods. As you know its not because I use slurs or tell falsehoods, i stick to facts and I interpret them according to my own standards, its fine if someone disagrees with me but it bothers me to simply impede our ability to communicate.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I didn’t notice much Asian favoritism, but your word is good.

      • Martel

        its quite annoying, they sometimes delete comments which are clearly admissible under any standards, possibly by accident. Engelman and I have a mutually beneficial relationship, where I inform him of reality, and he tries to wrestle free from his obviously wrong assumptions. I believe he enjoys it somewhere inside of him, which might be a sign of latent masochism.

  • Northerner

    East Asians are less than half of all Asians in the US. They make up most of their race’s Republican vote. Other Asians such as the Vietnamese, Filipinos, Cambodians etc have a larger population, but are also less well off, so are more likely to vote Democrat. Toss in some degree of discrimination which swings a few East Asians to the Dems, and suddenly the 70-30% split doesn’t seem unrealistic at all.

    • Martel

      How do the republicans discriminate against Asians? They are desperately race-neutral. If they join a party which promotes black nationalism, which is responsible for most physical violence against Asians, as poetically explained in a song by rapper Ice cube, noted by Taylor in Paved With Good Intentions, then they again prove to us their supposed higher average intelligence does not translate to sound political decisions.

  • Evette Coutier

    I’ve spent a lifetime among Asians. They are very traditional and conservative by culture. What chases them off is they are offended by smug self righteous Christians. It’s not that they are Christian, it is that republican Christians can be very offensive to non-Christians in their attitude and condescension. Conservatives should have 80 percent of the Asian vote, but they don’t over this issue.

  • Cogra Bro

    Christianity is growing very fast in China. There are estimated to be 100 million Chinese Christians.

    • Andy

      Good, I hope they grow enough to overwhelm the current selfish leaders. Some kind of pan-Eurasian unity might be possible if China had a government that cared about at least its own people.

  • Andy

    If I lived in China, I would be flattered, not angered, by a compliment on my Chinese. Obviously I would be “less Chinese” than the natives even if I were born there, and it would not be surprising if people asked where I was born.

  • My wife is Japanese, from a famous Imperial Navy family. Sayaka’s not a citizen and can’t vote, but when it comes to racial politics, she’s somewhere between Spartacus and Reinhard Heydrich, probably closer to the latter. Her take on liberalism is “If you want these things, you liberals pay for them.”

    Of course, since Sayaka also calls television “ni***r-vision”, she might be somewhat unusual.

  • Mergatroyd

    If you’re not white, the democrats love you. If you are white, they’ll only accept you if you’re either gay or in possession of millions of dollars that you’re willing to donate to their war chest.

  • Mergatroyd

    It’s not just the troll here, it’s the entire United States government, the media, the EU and all lefties.

    Or, Asia for Asia, Africa for blacks, Mexico for Mexicans but White homelands for EVERYONE.

    It is White genocide and is endorsed by the UN.

  • LACountyRedneck

    70% of Jews voted for Obama.

    • Jesse James

      Which is why a lot of us lump them with the Asians in the other-enemy category.

      • Transpower

        The problem here is that both Asians and Jews have been miseducated in college. If we could get the government totally out of education, then this situation would rapidly change.

        • Jesse James

          I don’t disagree, it would also be nice to get the white progressives out from under the thumb of the government propagandist. Most are entirely too smug and comfortable singing in the Cathedral’s choir and looking out the stain glassed windows at we ragged dissenters standing alone out in the rain filled gutter.

        • Charles W.

          Plenty of non-Jewish whites were sitting right next to those Jews and Asians at those colleges yet don’t vote the same way.

        • LACountyRedneck

          They are either “miseducated”, dumb, or taking advantage of our system. I’ll go with number three.

  • Jesse James

    Yes, what is your point? I am glad that we won the Pacific war, like the veteran and author Paul Fussell in his essay “Thank God for the Atom Bomb” it doesn’t bother me in the least that we nuked two of Japan’s cities. Now since you brought up Pearl Harbor and Bataan let us talk about the other truth. The Roosevelt administration treacherously held back vital information about the expected attack on Pear Harbor from the two American leaders responsible for the defense of Hawaii, Admiral Kimmel and General Short. Thus when the Japanese attack came they found our ships and planes parked closely together in a defensive posture against enemy saboteurs not against a full scale air attack.

    Why would Roosevelt allow such a thing? Because he wanted to use American anger at the perfidious Japanese surprise attack to allow him to enter the war against Germany on behalf of the Soviet Union. The Roosevelt administration was riddled with communists spies and active agents at the highest levels, including direct advisers to Roosevelt. The men on Bataan were left hanging out in an indefensible position by a callous administration that was willing to sacrifice them as part of their political strategy to enter a war that the vast majority of Americans had no wish to join. Roosevelt had only recently campaigned on a pledge to keep America out of the war.

    When all was said and done in WWII who actually benefited the most? It was certainly not the “free world”. Communism survived being strangled in its cradle by Hitler and Stalin’s Soviet Union ended up controlling all of eastern Europe and a good chunk of central Europe. Mao’s Chinese Communists were also well positioned to seize control of China just a few years after the nominal end of the war in 1945. Supposedly the west had gone to war to save free Poland from the Germans an aim that seems completely forgotten about at the end of the war when Poland was left to rot behind the soon to be erected communist Iron Curtain.

  • Mergatroyd

    Nonsense. They are colonizing the United States and Africa as I’m writing this and buying up everything in sight:

    Africa: “In the greatest movement of people the world has ever seen, China is secretly working to turn the entire continent into a new colony.

    Reminiscent of the West’s imperial push in the 18th and 19th centuries – but on a much more dramatic, determined scale – China’s rulers believe Africa can become a ‘satellite’ state, solving its own problems of over-population and shortage of natural resources at a stroke.

    With little fanfare, a staggering 750,000 Chinese have settled in Africa over the past decade. More are on the way.

    The strategy has been carefully devised by officials in Beijing, where one expert has estimated that China will eventually need to send 300 million people to Africa to solve China’s problems of over-population and pollution.”

    –Economic Collapse Blog

    45 Signs That China Is Colonizing America

    httpCOLON//wwwDOTfreerepublicDOTcom/focus/f-news/2887916/posts

  • Jesse James

    Interesting times huh?

  • Mergatroyd

    Oh wow! Those things certainly compare to the computer, electrical grid, the jet engine, telephone, vaccinations and anti-biotics. Wow.

    Your posts makes Asians look foolish.

    //Sarc

  • Mergatroyd

    Wow, the horse collar is certainly up there with the printing press, cement, the harnessing of electricity, flight, rocketry, astronomy, telescope, space travel, firearms, transistor, radio, television, telephone, lightbulb, photography, motion pictures, phonograph, electric battery, automobile, steam engine, railroad transportation,microscope, computers, and millions of other tech miracles.

    You’re grasping at straws to “prove” that Asians are superior to Whites.

  • Mergatroyd

    Wow, that’s certainly proof of Asian creativity when Whites invented and created all first world technology and medicine.

    A patent is not an invention or creation, BTW, and the Japanese have had great success on IMPROVING on (and shrinking down) White inventions, but have a profound lack of technology created from scratch.

    This is from American Renaissance, where you claim to get information that Asians are superior to Whites in all way.

    Read it carefully and then reread it

    Japan has been able to duplicate the technology of the West but has not been able to surpass it. In the 1970s, many Americans feared Japan would dominate it economically and financially, but just as it seemed to pull abreast of the West, it began to stagnate and has shown little growth since the 1980s.

  • A million and one discussions that create thousands of lines revolving around the analytics of the problems and root causes, when the solution is practically a straight line.

    So a larger and larger percentage of Asians and other minorities magically start voting for Republicans. Congratulations! We’ve finally become aware of the not-so-secret reality that you have to pander to non-Whites and their specific ethnicity/race in order for them to vote for you. The more you pander, the more plentiful they become, the more you have to pander, the more plentiful they become, etc. Now, of course, this is the exact opposite of the paradigm established for all White people, where your acceptance is gauged by how much you are willing to give away. Having your[White] group pandered to and grow = BAD. Having their[non-White] group pandered to and grow = GOOD.

    Hey, this sure isn’t rocket science, but we all feel like little sociopolitical luminaries for being able decipher this obvious and primal reality by using clinical analysis and deep, deep, deep thought. Okay, what now?

    • You make a good point.

      I wouldn’t want to be part of a political party that got any appreciable percentage of the vote from any non-white racial group. I wouldn’t want to be part of a party that got anything more than a fringe sliver of the black vote.

      Because I know what it takes to get those kind of people to vote for you, and those things are mostly not in my or our best interests.

      Let all the non-whites clump over in the other party, the whites over here in this party. Maybe it’ll dawn on this party where the whites are that they should become an explicitly ethnonationalist party.

  • Charles W.

    Asians, with the arguable exception of the Japanese, have a completely different conception of government from European whites. Like blacks and Hispanics, Asians view government only on terms of “What can I get from it?”

    The European notion of simply wanting government to leave you alone, the image of the self-reliant homesteader and his family, is COMPLETELY ALIEN to the Asian mind, as they have dwelled in a hive society for virtually ever. That’s why you notice in Asian countries “government” is simply about one small group of families on the inside looting as much as they can and guarding it from those on the outside.

    With all that said, of course Chinese, Koreans, Indians, etc., are voting for the party that they believe will give them the most handouts. Blacks don’t work and seek handouts, and Asians work and seek handouts. That’s the only difference between them in that respect.