Two Oscar Voters Picked ’12 Years a Slave’ Without Watching It

Christopher Rosen, Huffington Post, March 5, 2014

In the lead up to the 86th annual Academy Awards, one prevalent meme was that some Oscar voters simply didn’t want to watch “12 Years a Slave.” As it turns out, that was true: at least two anonymous members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences apparently never saw Steve McQueen’s eventual Best Picture winner, this despite placing the film atop their Oscar ballots.

The surprising revelation comes via the Los Angeles Times: “All the same, two Oscar voters privately admitted that they didn’t see ’12 Years a Slave,’ thinking it would be upsetting. But they said they voted for it anyway because, given the film’s social relevance, they felt obligated to do so.”

During her Oscars monologue, host Ellen DeGeneres made reference to that kind of thinking with a joke about how the evening might go: “Possibility number one: ’12 Years a Slave’ wins Best Picture. Possibility number two: You’re all racists.”


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  • thomas edward

    Of course, all lucid people knew the fix was in.

  • David Ashton

    “Felt obligated” – that’s one way it works, Mr Engelman.

  • D.B. Cooper

    I’m still mad that Chariots of Fire, a film no one watches, and you can’t find for sale at the video stores, won Best Picture by beating the likes of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Friday the 13th Part 2.

    • dmxinc

      I liked Chariots of Fire. Still think about it to this day.

      The Scottish sprinter, a missionary, died in a Japanese POW camp.

      The story of that camp is told in a book called The Shantung Compound – excellent book about human nature and how people perform under stress.

    • Oil Can Harry

      Uh yeah… because Friday The 13th Part 2 was being seriously considered for Best Picture. The Acadamy had high praise for Jason’s acting.

    • antiquesunlight

      In 2003, ‘Lord of the Rings’ beat ‘Lost in Translation’ and ‘Master and Commander,’ which is ridiculous. I think that’s when I lost all faith in the Academy.

      • “Master and Commander” was great, wasn’t it? I’ve been hoping that Russel Crowe would make more of those; the series of novels was quite extensive.

        • antiquesunlight

          Me too. Maybe they were worried the sequels wouldn’t be as good? (But that would be a first for Hollywood…) I’d like to read the books one day.

  • Lewis33

    How mad are Lee Daniels (The Butler) and Oprah right now?

    • D.B. Cooper

      Who gives a crap? How many years was Spartacus a slave?

      • Max

        “I’m Spartacus”.

        • dd121

          I am Spartacus.

          • Lt_Greyman_NVA

            I’m Spartacus!

          • Eric_Arhtur_Blair

            I get a little tired of everyone else claiming to be Spartacus when I, in fact, am Spartacus.

            Accept no substitutes!

          • Lagerstrom

            I love you Spartacus!

          • Fathercoughlin

            I,like you,loved the part at the end when the Romans demanded Spartacus,and each man bravely and loyally said “I am Spartacus.” Of course you remember MAD Magazines “scenes we’d like to see”? ROMAN:Who is Spartacus!? MAN: I am Spartacus! ROMAN: Ok Spartacus,we’re gonna let the rest of these guys go but YOU we’re gonna crucify for oh, 3 or four days… MAN: Wait! Did you say SPARTACUS??? Oh no,heh heh heh I thought you said MARtacus. Yeah thats me,MARTACUS. Common mistake,I get that all the time…

          • dd121

            Roman soldier, “No offense taken, we’ll just crucify you and your whole army”!

      • SoulInvictus

        I am not Spartacus,

        but I have his butt chin.

      • Funruffian

        I never cared much for old Kirk. The only movie I liked of his was “The bad and the Beautiful”, because it had that luscious babe, Lana Turner. Spartacus was good, but not because of Kirk.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          You really are a fun ruffian….ahem….<:-0

          Yes, Kirk, Charlton, and Burt had over-acting disease.

  • Puggg

    Or they did the Nancy Pelosi strategy, you’ve got to vote for the movie to be best picture in order to find out what’s in it.

  • Pelagian

    I like Ellen’s joke … it’s brave. But I still cant get used to looking at her … so I don’t. Just curious … does anybody here watch her?

    • Who Me?

      What her do what? (j/k) I put my TV in the attic a couple years ago.

    • silviosilver

      It was a good joke, but coming from her lips I couldn’t help wonder whether she honestly felt that way a little. Leftards have an impossibly difficult time saying no to negroes so they sometimes find themselves preemptively saying yes – just in case, you know.

    • Her show (is it still on?) is an atrocity.
      I’ve seen her stand-up comedy; she made me laugh.

    • dd121

      I don’t watch the academy awards on the grounds that it is just a yearly infomercial for liberal causes and movies.

      • gregCall

        Exactly, well said.

      • BonV.Vant

        A Chance for the stars to show off their plastic surgery

      • I’ve always considered the Academy Awards as a festival in narcissism by the most self-absorbed people in the nation: Hollyweirdos. I like movies, but I’m picky about what we buy, I just ordered the Collector’s Edition of “Apollo 13” used from Amazon ($4.38 plus shipping). We also have “Coward of the County” with Kenny Rodgers coming. I never buy or see anything with Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie in them; I consider those people completely vile.

      • Funruffian

        There used to be some conservative/right wing actors at one time; John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, William Holden, and eventually Ronald Reagan. They are certainly a dead breed as Hollyweird shifts more and more to the left.

        • dd121

          They are long gone. Now any actor that sticks his head up as a conservative finds himself out of work. Blacklisted.

  • Pro_Whitey

    Gee, I wonder if they did the same for The Passion of the Christ? That was upsetting to many, too. Nah, who am I kidding?

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    I think we are finally seeing the saturation point; people are starting to see the man behind the curtain, in spite of the fact that Hollywood has been telling us for decades to pay no attention to him.

    • Jesse James

      We owe thanks to the writer Frank Baum for creating the “man behind the curtain” trope.

      • DudeWheresMyCountry?

        Glad you got the Wizard of Oz reference!

      • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

        At the risk of being pedantic, in a general sense yes, without Baum writing The Wonderful Wizard of Oz the film wouldn’t have been made, but that line doesn’t appear in the book. The screenplay was the work of many hands. It’s a minor miracle that the film is as good as it is because there are rejected pages of the screenplay that are hilariously bad – “Get away from me with that water Scarecrow, or I’ll brain you!” – sort of the Wicked Witch meets The Three Stooges.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          I did not know that. That story behind the story type of reference also teaches us that nothing is ever what it appears. There always seems to be another layer to the onion.

        • Jesse James

          The movie did a good job with the dramatic effect of throwing back an actual curtain but in the book there is a screen that the old man is hiding behind. A bit different but the essence is the same.

          “The Lion thought it might be as well to frighten the Wizard, so he gave a large, loud roar, which was so fierce and dreadful that Toto jumped away from him in alarm and tipped over a screen that stood in the corner. As it fell over with a crash they looked that way, and the next minute they were filled with wonder. For they saw, standing in just the spot the screen had hidden, a little, old man, with a bald head and a winkled face, who seemed to be as much surprised as they were.”

          So pushing pendantism to the limit Frank Baum created the “man behind the screen” trope which was shown as a curtain in the movie.

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    Too upsetting not from the slavery garbage but at the awful attempt at filmmaking.

    • D.B. Cooper

      How did Kramer vs. Kramer beat Apocalypse Now?

      • DudeWheresMyCountry?

        Feminism, PC and the obligitory white guilt is how. Did you really think an empowered female divorcee wouldn’t beat a rogue Vietnam War soldier story?

        • D.B. Cooper

          Yet, the 1979 winner is not the film that’s on TV all of the time, nor is it constantly selling out at the video stores.

        • Alexandra1973

          I saw that movie on YouTube a while back. All I saw was some woman selfishly abandoning her family to “find herself.” Guess “finding one’s self” was big in the 70s.

          I wanted to slap Meryl Streep’s character.

          • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

            It was a reflection of the reality of the times, but with a very shallow understanding of it.

    • So CAL Snowman

      I read that the black director (I refuse to call him a McQueen) didn’t have a story board or a shot list. He just sort of let the actors mill about and then shot what they created. Absolute garbage film making.

      • DudeWheresMyCountry?


      • Fighting_Northern_Spirit

        So, like a Christopher Guest movie without the talent.

  • Extropico

    I refuse to see this kind of anti-White inculcation until they make a movie about slavery still existing in Africa to this day.

    Oh, and I still haven’t forgotten Annie Hall (Who?) winning Best Picture over Star Wars.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      I checked out back in the late 1990s when that historically innacurate, self indulgent piece of dookie Titanic won. There’s no romance on a sinking ship!

      • Extropico

        I liked Titanic but for that year I might have selected Gattaca for Best Picture for its sci-fi themes on space exploration and eugenics ethics.

        • DudeWheresMyCountry?

          I liked Gattaca. I got to see a rough cut while they were still editing. Funny how it really doesn’t seem so sci fi now but an alternative to the direction of mankind. One thing about Titanic though, no magic negroes fixing the ship or swimming to save White spinsters!

          • Extropico

            There actually was some public complaining that the billion dollar eclat from James Cameron had too many YTs in it!!!

          • silviosilver

            Please don’t give them any ideas.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Red Tailstanic

          • itdoesnotmatter

            For a true story of male Euro White courage under conditions of extremity, demonstrated leadership skills that surpass human expectations, I recommend both film and books that portray the Antarctic expedition of Sir Ernest Shackleton. Against all odds, not a single man was lost.

          • I’ve seen the documentary. Amazing, amazing story.

          • DudeWheresMyCountry?

            Yes, I have always been fascinated with the Antarctic and Arctic explorers. All White men of course, who else? I have always loved the story of the HMS Terror and her trips with Ross to Antarctica and the ill fated Franklin Expedition in The Arctic. They are still looking for The HMS Terror as her fate is still unknown. Great story about a valiant and important ship that served in the War of 1812 and was part of the bombardment of Fort McHenry, Arctic and Antarctic explorations and the Franklin Expedition to chart The Northwest Passage. Mount Terror on Ross Island in Antarctica is named for her too. Did I mention how a great of a story this ship has??

          • One of my old college friends sent me Sir Shackleton’s book, “South” when I was locked up, the Signet paperback edition. ISBN 0-451-19880-8. Simply amazing! Of course I mailed it home so I could keep it.

        • silviosilver

          Gattaca was a disaster for the eugenics cause. It’s unreal how many people seem to think life would be turned completely upside down in a eugenic environment. In reality, highly effective eugenic policies could hum along quietly in the background and never even be noticed. Life could easily on as it does today with nary an eyebrow raised (though I hesitate to say that because I don’t want life to go on the way it today does – but it could).

          Another late 90s film that started me thinking about things was ‘Amistad,’ or rather the incredible emotional outpourings over it. Back then I would have been very alarmed by the kinds of racial observations I now routinely make, even so I couldn’t help thinking that the people talking up a yawner about black slavery were a bit kooky. I mean, get a life, it’s not as if blacks are the only people who have had a tough time of it in history.

      • Max

        At least the people were both white. Wait for the remake.

    • Einsatzgrenadier

      Why doesn’t Hollywood make a movie about the Indian Ocean and Middle Eastern slave trades? The Arabs and other Mohammedans enslaved far more blacks than Europeans ever did and maintained black slavery for a much longer period of time. Moreover, black Africans suffered a higher rate of mortality being transported across the Indian Ocean than across the Atlantic.

      Hollywood doesn’t want to make a movie about the Muslim slave trade because it would not only violate the canons of political correctness, but distract them from their main purpose: aiding and abetting the physical destruction of the white race on the American continent.

      • Extropico

        Right on. There are some marvelous plots that could be written about the Barbary Pirates and other slave traders of Europeans.

        • Grantland

          Try “The Sea Hawk” by Rafael Sabatini.

          • Extropico

            I see that novel has been made into a silent film as well as a later version with sound in 1940 with Errol Flynn. Thanks for the reference.

    • NoMosqueHere

      That’s a somewhat different issue. Film snobs probably prefer intelligent scripts to mass entertainment. Here, we have Oscar voters fearful of starting a race riot.

      • Extropico

        Yes, and perhaps not every oscar winner should involve war. I enjoyed Manhattan and Crimes and Misdemeanors more than Annie Hall.

  • Truthseeker

    I’m all white guilt propaganda’d out. We have a black president, laws that are specifically designed to disadvantage whites, illegals that are treated as though they have more rights in this country than natural-born citizens, and a cultural heritage that gets spit on despite having done more good for non-whites than any of their cultures have ever done for us. Forgive me if I’m not going to feel guilty over some lurid story that may or may not have actually happened more than a century before I was born and only affected a few individuals directly.

  • MekongDelta69

    We went over all this a few days ago on AmRen.

    This ‘thing’ would have won, no matter what

    • Johnny Clay

      You could see this movie winning a mile away.

  • JSS

    Well to be fair I also made up my mind about that stupid movie with out ever watching it.

  • Diana Moon Glampers

    At least they will admit this vote was fixed. Now if only we could discuss other fixed winners?

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    Nothing to see here. Just the usual media delusion of pretending Black people are first-world people.

  • Spartacus

    “All the same, two Oscar voters privately admitted that they didn’t see
    ’12 Years a Slave,’ thinking it would be upsetting. But they said they
    voted for it anyway because, given the film’s social relevance, they
    felt obligated to do so.”


    How ? How on earth did you get to THIS ? In a short time you went from putting a man on the moon to sucking up to these sub-humans… Jesus !

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      With Black universal dysfunction you have to feel obligated to give them awards and accolades because you couldn’t do it on merit.

      • silviosilver

        Affirmative action academy award, lol.

        Of course, this mentality is a direct outgrowth of leftist voodoo sociology, in which blacks are only ever one more favoritsm away from achieving Total Equality.

  • Oh, so it was sorta like Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize, undeserved, premature and on the come.

  • Nightmare

    Enough already with this Cultural Marxism

    • Max

      They are only warming up in the US.

  • OhWow

    Hahaha “felt obligated” there it is. White guilt once again. Give the trophy to poor blackie because of mean stuff that happened 150+ years ago. Poor babies! Let’s tell them they are special!

    The real racists are liberals because they treat them like children.

    • Lewis33

      Liberals aren’t racist for treating them like children, they’re racist’s because they tell them they can do that which they know they can’t…and then stoke their anger at predetermined failure.

  • Max

    If the movie is so upsetting the Academy members couldn’t view it I’d say there exist grounds for an injunction to prevent or “mental distress” lawsuit against any of these school districts incorporating this into their curriculum.

  • Luca

    We have to give negros prizes, money and awards, regardless of the fact they did not earn them. It makes them feel important.

    The current example is not quite as silly as Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize for creating a “new Climate” in international relations and for reaching out to Muslims.

    Why just look at all the wonderful events that unfolded in the world since he got his award. Right now the Israelis and Palestinians are holding hands, kissing one another and singing “kumbyah.” A magic negro indeed.

  • John K

    I’m still waiting for a president who will one day tell us, “I felt obligated to deport all blacks to their natural habitat in Africa.”

    Black pandering has gone on for far too long.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      Yeah, Abe Lincoln was probably the last president to ponder that issue and he has been dead for 150 years.

  • dukem1

    gee…it’s gotta suck to be them.

  • silviosilver

    What does that mean, they’re served store brand caviar?

    • AndrewInterrupted

      They get sent to the back of the parade.

      Andy Dick with some sashay: “…LGB comes before T, b!tch..!!!..”

      • SoulInvictus

        So…apparently “gay” is the third rail for Amren posts as well.

  • Shawn_thefemale

    I can’t believe any of the voters watch 10% of any of the nominated films – ever.

    And certainly no money – or privilege – ever exchange hands…

  • negrolocaust

    just in case anybody didn’t know a white woman was beaten in a KNOCKOUT assault by 4 blacks yesterday in new york. one hit her in the face and the others hit her in the back then ran away. witnesses said the 4 blacks from 12 to 16 did not even try to take anything even though she had a purse. also just like i predicted on day one. a black was just arrested after dna linked him to last month’s execution style murder and rape of two white sisters in pittsburgh PA. i knew it was a black because only a black would be stupid enough to park the getaway car a mile away. one sister was a doctor the other a teacher and siblings of democratic rep wolfe from iowa. this black beat one before shooting them in the head. then he dumped bleach all over their bodies. caught in two weeks but cops had to wait for dna before making an arrest which leads me to the ONLY good quality i can say blacks have and that is they are so dumb they are usually caught right away. and also is why prisons are 87 percent black on average.

    • Rosenmops

      A Black man, Allen Wade, was arrested yesterday for the murder of the Wolfe sisters in Pittsburgh. One of the woman was found naked with bleach poured on her. Both shot execution style in their home.

  • CJ Haze

    Steve McQueen: The very fact that this guy doesn’t use a middle name says it all. There already was a Steve McQueen.

    12 Years a Slave is 2nd Generation Roots for the automatons. Going by inflation, slaves cost between $250k and $3M, depending on the social construct of genetics.

    I want to continue this post but it doesn’t matter. D. Washington won an oscar for being ghetto, despite being a well-rounded, talented actor. So did Halle Berry, as soon as she gave up the Dorothy Dandridge roles and picked up the ghetto single mama/Monster’s ball role.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      If you read his bio you see that he was born during the height of (the real) Steve McQueen’s popularity. He was obviously named after him. Famous people should have a right to retire their name like athletes get their numbers retired. What an insult to the European American community.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    They heard the dog whistle and it was whistling “…white guilt…”.

  • indoctrination_FAIL

    Transexual [sic] people are treated FAR worse than gay [sic] people in the US.

    And this is important exactly how? specifically, how are “gay” people being treated so badly (highly unlikely!) than which “Transexual” people are being treated “FAR worse”?

    Ludicrous. Show data, or shut up.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      Maybe each letter in LGBTQ should have their own country?
      I’m OK with that.
      So long as we have ours.
      (And please don’t write).

      • indoctrination_FAIL

        Actually, I think that the entire spectrum of the self-identified-alphabet-soup-group (“You better take us seriously!!”) absolutely should have exactly one country, where they can, uh, be all they can be.–and that emphatically includes those “rainbow people of diversity”–and it should be small. I propose Rhode Island.

        Good luck with that solidarity thing!

        • AndrewInterrupted

          Yeah, talk about herding cats. I was thinking of partitioning Cape Cod, Mass. They ceded Provincetown to the rainbow warriors years ago. You’ll want to keep your soap on a rope up there.

          • indoctrination_FAIL

            Yes!! I was there many years ago, and even then knew its reputation. That is one fabulous town!

          • AndrewInterrupted

            I’m not sure how many stay there year round, but the last 20 miles of that peninsula is a 24 hour freak show in the Summer.

    • saxonsun

      Are you real? If gays are actually fighting to be allowed the most simple human right, that is to be happy one’s own way, how is it you can even formulate such a question? You take for granted that you can marry as you must–gays have NEVER enjoyed these very basic rights. You and others like you are why we need legal protections.

      • Fathercoughlin

        You’re so…gay.

      • No one is stopping gays from getting married. They just can’t marry someone of the same sex.

  • Neuday

    Isn’t this how we elected a president . . . twice?

  • Garrett Brown

    Why is anyone surprised by this? Obama was elected president on the same premise. People don’t care anymore, they don’t want to be informed.

    • DudeWheresMyCountry?

      Very apt and insightful comment. Truth!

    • Who Me?

      I was bouncing around the internet reading stuff just before the 2008 election, and at one place the comments by young (predominately black) women was that they were going to vote for Obama because he was so sexy! Sexy? Obama? Really? God help us all. I never went back to that site.

      • SFLBIB

        Well, at least it wasn’t for his eloquent oratory. Many people voted for Barack Obama because of his eloquent oratory. But anyone familiar with the record of political leaders who were popular because they possessed eloquent oratory in the 20th century should have run for the hills when they encountered a politician with eloquent oratory.

        Besides, voting for someone because he/she is “sexy” is not so bad when you consider a guy can say he voted for Sarah Palin because she’s pretty and easier on the eyes than, say, Hillary.

    • SFLBIB

      Why should they want to be informed? Voters are rationally ignorant because the costs of gaining particular kinds of information are greater than the benefits since one vote is essentially meaningless.

  • Lord Sandwich

    I’m developing a screenplay for Negroes in Negroland. Two words: Oscar buzz. 🙂


    “given the film’s social relevance, they felt obligated to do so”. Kind of the same way a do nothing Freshman Senator was elected President. ( After all, he could string words together to form whole sentences without any detection of negro dialect, right Senator Byrd? So obviously that made him qualified to be the President of the United States. ) Or kind of the same way a do nothing Freshman Senator turned President won the Noble peace prize 40 days after taking office. <( Transparent Much? ) You know, before he had a chance to brag to his aids about just how good at killing people he was. It's all black privilege, the only race observably given ( and Hispanics to a lesser degree ) what they did not earn for no other reason than the color of their skin. Yet somehow it's the very people who built this country who supposedly didn't earn anything in it. Go figure?

  • Oil Can Harry

    When Ellen Degenerate cracked that Liza Minelli looks like a man the audience should have chanted “Look who’s talking!”.

  • ncpride

    I totally agree. I have no problem with our History being told….. the good, the bad, and the ugly. However, it gets infuriating when they only address a one sided version with absolutely no objectivity, and frankly, outright lies. They have been doing this for decades. Looking back at my own early education, I recognize the propaganda and White guilt for what it was, and it’s only gotten worse.

  • Eric_Arhtur_Blair

    Social relevance? What would Hollywood types know about such a thing?

    • SFLBIB

      My thought exactly. The way they keep harping on it, you’d think we were on the brink of making slavery legal again. On the other hand, we are being overtaken more and more each day by socialism. Do we ever get a movie about its atrocities?

  • DudeWheresMyCountry?

    You can’t do what has already been done. And a diploma sanctioned by you? Oh boy! Sounds like a game changer for me!

  • Truth Teller

    Amistad was historically inaccurate. The hero Cinque was an African slave raider and trader. The tribe from which he took his victims finally captured him and sold him into slavery. When he got back home he found many of his relatives had been captured and sold into slavery. He gathered a troop, fought with the enemy tribe and went back to slave raiding and trading.
    The 19th century trial was a publicity stunt by the abolitionists.
    The 20th century movie was just another stunt to make Whites, all Whites look bad
    Between 1920 and 1950 a few movies were made about White indentured servants. Lillian Gish was in some in the silent era. Captain Blood with Erroll Flynn was another. Paulette Goddard starred in another.
    Like all White race realists I detest Hollywood. MLK and Black History month are just one long orgy of White hatred that starts in first grade and never ends.

  • BillMillerTime

    And that “Pulp Fiction” is racist because of its frequent use of the N-word.

  • Truth Teller

    Someone needs to make a movie about the years Captain John Smith leader of the early Jamestown Colony was a slave. He went off to a war with the Turks, was captured and sold to several owners. He escaped from Egypt, went back to England and went on to found the Jamestown Colony.
    Or Sacajawea ,she was a Shoshone. She was captured when she was about 11 or 12 in a sex slave raiding expedition She was sold around the northwest until finally acquired by her husband Charbonneau. He married her legally and they got the job of guiding the Lewis and Clark expedition.
    The White hating commies will never teach those true stories in the schools.

  • Truth Teller

    My favorite movies of all time are Mars Attacks, Scarface and Over Board with Goldie Hawn, Kurt Russell and his 4 sons making a poor but happy traditional family life in an all White Oregon backwoods community.
    I have never been able to watch more than a few minutes of the academy awards. Boring, boring boring.

    • BonV.Vant

      My favorite Movies-
      -My Man Godfrey
      _The Thin Man Series
      -Libeled Lady
      _The Mr. Moto Series
      _ Much of the Charlie Chan Series

      • SFLBIB

        Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death has it hands down, followed by Eegah: the Name Written in Blood.

        • BonV.Vant

          De gustibus non est disputandum

    • DLRisVH

      Rumor has it that Will Smith and Jennifer Lopez are going to remake Over Board.

  • D.a. Drawdy

    Are they anonymous for a reason?

  • Truth Teller

    The whole point of awards season is so the TV channels can make money on advertising.

    • WR_the_realist

      The whole point of anything you see on TV is so the TV channels can make money on advertising. Which is why you should get rid of your TV. Only when TV executives realize that their steady diet of anti-white trash is losing them their audience and thus lowering their ad revenues will they stop.

      • BonV.Vant

        Netflix is good in that one doesn’t have to endure ads. HULU Plus expects one to pay for their shows AND endure ads.

  • Lagerstrom

    Already done. The wonderful Mr and Mrs Biehl.

  • Lagerstrom

    Lesbian anti-racists are running the show. I don’t watch television.

    • BonV.Vant

      I did not watch it, but I checked reviews of the show. They went out of their way to say that she did a good job but at the same time said that it was one of the most boring AA shows ever. They just find it so hard to be honest. Apparently her brilliant shtick was to order pizza and have it delivered to people in the audience.

    • We don’t either. Even basic cable sucks enough that to us it simply isn’t worth paying for.

  • AndrewInterrupted

    You have to pay to play.

  • 2eRep

    America, a nation of sheep.

  • And to think my wife called me “paraniod” when I called 12 Years a Slave “the first afirmative action oscar”…

    • Reverend Bacon

      Not the first. Halle Berry got an Oscar, and AA is the only explanation. In the Heat of the Night” (1967) may have been the first.

      • SFLBIB

        Sidney Poitier was the first black person to win an Academy Award for Best Actor for his performance in Lilies of the Field [1963]. I don’t consider this to be an affirmative action award since he did a good job.

    • Garrett Brown

      Time for you to get another wife.

  • Malgus

    The Academy Awards –

    Bunch of rich and famous über-leftist retards getting together to congratulate themselves on how rich and famous they are…

    I’ve always thought the Academy Awards would be a perfect place for a JDAM…

    • BonV.Vant

      same thing as the “nobel prize”

      • Malgus

        Exactly… the only “Nobel Prize”‘s that are worth anything are those in the hard sciences… and even THEN, something is suspect…

        They gave Menachem Begin a Nobel Peace Prize, and he’s the one that blew up the King David Hotel, killing over 90 men, women and children…


        • They also gave one to that disgusting Yassir Arafat creature, terrorist Nelson Mandela, anthropomorphic global warming hoaxer Al Gore and Communist womanizer Martin Luther King, but not Mahatma Ghandi or Corazon Aquino.

  • BonV.Vant

    That was so prescient

  • Herman

    The film would be too “upsetting” of they just didn’t bother to go see it?

  • Herman

    The only way “12 Years a Slave” was not going to win was if it was up against a Holocaust movie.

  • Who Me?

    It upset me, and I didn’t even see it–and won”t.

  • Frank_DeScushin

    Oscar voters picking ’12 Years a Slave’ as Best Picture without having seen the film is similar to legions of white Liberals declaring diversity a great thing before having experienced it.

  • antiquesunlight

    I disagree, but I have very high standards for things like this. I think there is a definite difference between art and entertainment. Lord of the Rings was a fun little popcorn movie, an entertaining movie, but nothing more. It absolutely deserved recognition for special effects, music, etc., but giving it the Best Picture award would be about like giving Die Hard the Best Picture award.

  • The “equal protection under the law” requirement is what is going to kill the laws against gay marriage. They won’t stand up on that Constitutional basis.

  • antiquesunlight

    Well, I was a big Tolkien fan, too, but my idea of the stories was pretty different, so I’ve been bitter at Peter Jackson ever since.

    Old avatar was of Arthur Schopenhauer.

  • antiquesunlight

    I lost all patience with Peter when Radagast came out with bird poop in his hair. Ridiculous. My number one complaint against all the movies is that they’re action movies. They should be mysterious and brooding and wondrous, like the books are, not a string of stupid fight scenes glued together with soap opera melodrama. But… oh, well. Like you said, they had to appeal to as wide a range of people as possible to rake in the dough.