The SAT Upgrade Is a Big Mistake

Peter Wood, National Association of Scholars, March 12, 2014

The College Board is reformulating the SAT. Again.

The new changes, like others that have been instituted since the mid 1990s, are driven by politics. David Coleman, head of the College Board, is also the chief architect of the Common Core K-12 State Standards, which are now mired in controversy across the country. Coleman’s initiative in revising the SAT should be seen first of all as a rescue mission. As the Common Core flounders, he is throwing it an SAT life preserver. I’ll explain, but first let’s get the essentials of how the SAT is about to change.

Changes

The essay is now optional, ending a decade-long experiment in awarding points for sloppy writing graded by mindless formulae.

The parts of the test that explored the range and richness of a student’s vocabulary have been etiolated. The test now will look for evidence that students are familiar with academic buzzwords and jargon. The College Board calls this “Relevant Words in Context.” Test-takers won’t have to “memorize obscure words” but instead “will be asked to interpret the meaning of words based on the context of the passage in which they appear.”

The deductions for guessing wrong are gone. Literally, there will be no harm in guessing.

Math will narrow to linear equations, functions, and proportions.

The scale on which scores are recorded will revert to the old 800 each on two sections, from the current 2,400 on three sections. (Goodbye essay points.)

The old verbal section will be replaced by “evidence-based reading and writing.”

All the tests will include snippets from America’s Founding Documents.

What they mean

The College Board’s announcement of these changes came under the headline “Delivering Opportunity: Redesigning the SAT Is Just One Step.” The “delivering opportunity” theme is divided into three parts:

Ensure that students are propelled forward.

Provide free test preparation for the world.

Promote excellent classroom work and support students who are behind.

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If you work your way through this folderol, it appears that the College Board is launching a whole battery of new diversity programs.  “Access to Opportunity (“A2O”) pushes (“propels”) low-income, first-generation, underrepresented students to college. The “All In Campaign” aims “to ensure to ensure that every African American, Latino, and Native American student who is ready for rigorous work takes an AP course or another advanced course.” Another program offers college application fee waivers.

Those initiatives bear on the redesigned SAT mainly as evidence of the College Board’s preoccupation with its ideas about social justice. {snip}

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The student who comes across the College Board’s explanation—and maybe even the journalist who reads it—might miss the full weight of that key phrase “college and career readiness.” That’s the smoking gun that what is really happening in the College Board’s revision of the SAT is that the test is being wrenched into alignment with the Common Core. That phrase, “college and career readiness,” is the Common Core mantra. The Common Core was vigorously promoted to the states and to the public as something that would “raise standards” in the schools by creating a nationwide framework that would lead students to “college readiness.”

But alas, as the Common Core Standards emerged, it became apparent that they set a ceiling on the academic preparation of most students. Students who go through schools that follow the Common Core Standards will be ill-prepared for the rigors of college. That is, unless something can be done on the other end to ensure that colleges lower their standards. Then everything will be well.

The bind

None of this might matter if the Common Core were just a baseline and students and schools could easily move above it if they wished to. The trouble is that the Common Core has been designed to be a sticky baseline. It is hard for schools to rise above it. There are two reasons for that.

First, it uses up most of the time in a K-12 curriculum, leaving little room for anything else.

Second, the states that were leveraged into it via Obama’s “Race to the Top” agreed that students who graduate from high school with a Common Core education and are admitted to public colleges and universities will automatically be entered into “credit-bearing courses.” This is tricky. Essentially what it means is that public colleges will have to adjust their curricula down to the level of knowledge and skill that the Common Core mandates. And that in turn means that most schools will have little reason to offer anything beyond the Common Core, even if they can.

In this way, the Common Core floor becomes very much a ceiling too. The changes in the SAT are meant to expedite this transition.

The Common Core connection

The life-preserver that the College Board is throwing to the Common Core is a redefinition of what it means to be “college ready.” The SAT after all is a test aimed at determining who is ready for college. An SAT refurbished to match what the Common Core actually teaches instead of what colleges expect freshmen to know will go far to quiet worries that the Common Core is selling students short. If the SAT says a student is “college ready,” who is to say that he is not?

The new changes in the SAT are meant first to skate around the looming problem that students educated within the framework of the Common Core would almost certainly see their performance on the old SAT plummet compared to students educated in pre-Common Core curricula.

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Perhaps the most vivid example of how the Common Core lowers standards and creates a situation which invites mischief with the SATs is the decision of the Common Core architects to defer teaching algebra to 9th grade. That move, along with several other pieces of the Common Core’s Mathematics Standards, generally means that students in high school will not reach the level of “pre-calculus.” And that in turn means that as college freshmen, they will be at least a year behind where college freshmen used to be. Instead of starting in with a freshman calculus course, they will have to start with complex numbers, trigonometric functions, conic sections, parametric equations, and the like.

Of course, lots of students who go to college today never take a calculus course and are in no way hindered if their high school math preparation stopped with binomial equations.  The trouble comes with students who wish to pursue science, technology, or engineering—the “STEM” fields. College curricula generally assume that students who set out to study these fields have already reached the level of calculus.

One might think that students who have aptitudes and interests in these areas could simply leapfrog the Common Core by taking accelerated math courses in high school. Some indeed will be able to do just that. They will be students who attend prosperous schools that have the resources to work around the Common Core. Or they will be students whose parents pay for tutors or courses outside school.

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And while I have chosen math as the example, the Common Core is up to similar mischief in English, and the SAT is being similarly altered to match the diminished K-12 curriculum there too. Those who have followed the debate on the Common Core will have some idea of how this works out. The Common Core prizes “informational texts” above literature, and it prizes teaching students how to treat documents as “evidence” above teaching students how to search out the deeper meaning in what they read. The Common Core approaches reading and writing in a utilitarian spirit. Clearly this has some power. It fosters certain kinds of analytic skills—those that might be called forensic. But it scants the cultivation of other aspects of reading and writing, especially those that depend on analogy, implication, and aesthetic sense.

That’s why the Common Core has such limited use for imaginative literature and why it so readily turns to out-of-context excerpts and uprooted fragments. Information is information; it does not much depend on a sense of the whole; nor does it depend on gathering in the unsaid background. The now infamous example of the Common Core’s deracinated approach to writing is a reading of the Gettysburg Address shorn of any explanation that it was a speech commemorating a battlefield, let alone the battlefield of the decisive battle in the Civil War.

Presumably the Common Core folks will repair this particular mistake, but it is telling that it happened in the first place. And it is telling that the College Board has adopted all the same conceptual devices in the new SAT: relevant words in context, command of evidence, analyzing sources, and using fragments and excerpts of historical documents. None of these by itself should raise concern. Each is a legitimate line for testing. But note that they come unaccompanied by anything that would balance the focus on “evidence-based” inquiry with examination of other skills.

A puzzle

Why should a grandly announced effort to raise school standards end up lowering them instead? The answer lies in the convergence of several political forces. Politicians see a can’t-lose proposition in the conceit that everyone should have the opportunity to go to college. School standards that really separated the wheat from the chaff would be unpopular. Americans today like the pretense that the only thing that holds us back is external circumstance, not natural limitation. And the academic “achievement gap” between Asians and whites on one hand and blacks and Hispanics on the other has made forthright discussion of standards extremely difficult.

For all these reasons, we Americans were in the market for a new brand of educational snake oil and the Common Core provided it. Politicians on both sides of the aisle lined up to buy franchises: Obama on the left, Jeb Bush on the right, and many more.

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  • dd121

    “etiolated”? Got me on that one. Is that going to be on the new SAT?

    So just what is the SAT supposed to test now?

    • Bon, From the Land of Babble

      It tests whether the test taker has been sufficiently brainwashed by government schools gulags in anti-white, big-government statism to be an unquestioning drone of the state.

      • dd121

        That was my suspicion. Thanks for confirming.

      • MikeofAges

        Doesn’t work that way. The smartest people will still get the highest scores. Even backwoods Appalachians. Even Bantus. Even the kids of s-kicking, hard working Good Old Boys.

        Still, the scores can be manipulated a possibly significant amount. The biggest scandal was the change of the SAT in the 1990s from an aptitude test to an assessment test. What that did was transfer points from less well prepared, but smarter students to less bright but better performing students. Admittedly, the Educational Testing Service was honest about what it was doing, but the public and even the colleges never quite got the message. Actually, the whole thing was kind of Orwellian, if you think about it carefully. Another step toward the total denial of the existence of aptitude in favor of considerations that were more social in their character.
        The change in the SAT was part of the keeping whitey out machinery. Interesting too that it happened during the Clinton presidency. One has to think, the Department of Education and other elements of the Popular Front machine could have had a hand in this. I have long said, if someone wanted to write the book on the Clinton era, a good title would be “Clinton and the White Rebellion”. The idea that Clinton was a centrist was far off base in my estimation. He did centrist things, but through them gained credibility so that he always would have the power in hand to do other things that were important to the anti-white movement.
        If the SAT is going back to being an aptitude test, that actually is a step forward. I am sure the college and universities liked the assessment test idea. It gave them the chance to construct the type of student body they wanted while passing off the potential civil liability and political accountability for their actions and policies to an outside entity.
        Time to drain the swamp, if you ask me.

    • r j p

      Folderol?

      • dd121

        Yeah, that’s pretty obscure too. I think the guy who wrote this is smarter than the blacks they’re testing.

        • Anon

          Ask yourself this….is knowing obscure, unimportant facts that no one cares about a measure of intelligence or education? Or would it not be a better test to find out if the subject knows facts, terms and skills that are uncommon in the stupid yet common among a group of people who provide certain functions in society. Etiolated is term from biology. But it is not a term any biologist or related professional I ever met would use.
          What is the test trying to do then? If neither the PhD nor the negro who can’t read know the word, they test the same.

          • Brian

            You don’t want all the vocab words to be at that level, but some need to be, to separate the alpha+ from alpha. One can acquire an impressive vocabulary as a teenager simply by being a voracious, omnivorous reader and stopping to look up unknown words.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            And it is this that the SAT measures:

            P. 100, freshman,college-level text:

            Western History. “The Protestant Reformation could not have occurred without the monumental crises of the medieval church during the ‘exile’ in Avignon, the Great Schism, the conciliar period, and the Renaissance papacy. For increasing numbers of people the medieval church had ceased also to provide a viable religious piety.”

            Economics. “Suppose an industry like wine-grape growing requires a certain kind of soil and location (sunny hillsides, etc.). Such sites are limited in number. The annual output of wine can be increased to some extent by adding more labor and fertilizer to each acre of land and by bidding away some hill sites from other uses. But as we saw in chapter 2, the law of diminishing returns will begin to operate if variable factors of production, like labor and fertilizer, are added to fixed amounts of a factor like land. Why is that? Because each new variable addition of labor and fertilizer has a smaller proportion of land to work with.”

            Can you imagine a low-vocabulary, low knowledge base freshman struggling with 20 pages of either text?

          • geralddmartin

            Etiolated is also part of our general, non-technical vocabulary as a term for the “draining of color or vigor” from something. I first encountered the word in a William F. Buckley column decades ago. He used etiolated to describe the doctrinal condition of mainstream Protestant churches. WFB was notorious for showing off his vocabulary, b

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            It is a test to measure whether one is ready for college level material and whether one has the necessary vocabulary to read college-level texts.

            That’s why colleges are loathe to get rid of it because high school grades have been inflated and are not a reliable indicator of a student’s knowledge or vocabulary base.

            Charles Murray give these examples from typical freshman-level survey courses, p. 100 from each assigned text, as to the degree of difficulty of college texts:

            Psychology. “An exciting feature of artificial neural networks is their capacity to learn from experience, as some interconnections strengthen and others weaken. Their learning, together with their capacity for parallel processing, enables neural network computers to pick up how to navigate, play soccer, mimic others’ expressions, and recognize particular shapes, sounds, and smells—tasks that conventional computers find extremely difficult.”

            Philosophy. “The most prominent philosophical outcome of these several converging strands of postmodern thought has been a many-sided critical attack on the central Western philosophical tradition from Platonism onward. The whole project of that tradition to grasp and articulate a foundational Reality has been criticized as a futile exercise in linguistic game playing, a sustained but doomed effort to move beyond elaborate fictions of its own creation.

            Imagine a struggling reader assigned 20 pages from either of these texts.

      • Brian

        Nonsense lyrics from a song, originally. ‘De do do do, de da da da’ by The Police, for example.

    • Grantland

      I first heard (read) it in Catch-22, where Major Major Major’s father cunningly tells his exhausted wife (who looks like an etiolated cabbage after the birth) “I have named the boy Caleb, dear, in accordance with your wishes.” Etiolated – deprived of sunlight, sickly-green, like grass a few days under a paving stone

      • dd121

        I read the book years ago but don’t remember coming across the word. Good catch.

        • Grantland

          36 years ago – though I have re-read it. Hilarious book.

          • jane johnson

            I recently read the sequel (Closing Time), and found it hilarious as well. Now I have to reread the original because there are gaping holes in my memory of the plot. Looking forward to it.

  • LHathaway

    This is in college and in the workplace, too. The emphasis is on ‘hands on training’. Showing you’ve mastered ‘competencies’, performing some sort of action that is evaluated, instead of being tested on one’s knowledge. Whites may be smarter, or have more active memories or something (and this is something I personally am not convinced of), or even be more likely to come from families that have money, but with cradle to grave affirmative action policies, condemnation of white ‘culture and values’, the elimination of some ideas by redefining words and defining some ideas and concepts and life experiences out of existence, and through the use of constant social engineering, this ‘greater intelligence’ or ‘work ethic’ or just plain ‘ole whiteness, is likely to be a disadvantage.

    • jambi19

      No kidding it’s a disadvantage. Try being the white guy in class having to make superior grades just to be accepted to the same colleges as the thugs clowning around in class all day looking cool in front of the “white wommenz”.

    • Anon

      The standard you are looking for is, can the person understand, function in, communicate in and contribute to a first world society. The bottom line is that whites can. Asians can but cannot originate such a society. Blacks, not only cannot but, unless kept in chains, basically, will destroy such a society.

      • Brian

        The answer can be found in DNA differences due to longstanding ancestral environments. There’s nothing to be gained by dragging Noah’s Ark into it.

  • OT slightly.

    I’ve read a few stories in the last week or so that the RINO establishment money machine and donor class is gearing up to circle the wagons around Commune Core. They seem to be about as fanatical about wanting it as they are about amnesty and open borders.

    The big mystery to me is this: Why? Because it seems to me that Common Cult is nothing more than the latest flash in the pan pie in the sky fly by night scheme that Educracy Inc has dreamed up, and that five years from now you’ll be able to find plenty of CC printed material in any convenient dumpster, as it makes its way to the city dump to be buried above all the printed material for Outcome Based Education.

    So what is the attraction that Gates, the Chamber Pot of Commerce, etc. have to this particular scheme?

    • Rhialto

      Perhaps it’s just a diversionary ploy. Their main goal is massive employable immigration to savage wages, but Commune Core may dilute and disperse some of the opposition to their all important immigration surgings.

      Also, apparently William Gates’ political/social activisms are controlled by his wife.

      Just guesses!

      • I’ll upvote you anyway, but the problem with that theory is that it can’t be much of a diversion, because it’s almost the same universe of people that oppose Common Cult that also oppose amnesty and open borders.

    • ncpride

      Data mining. Google it. It’s a way for the federal government to get the states to do their dirty work for them. They will get private information on our children, and we parents have NO say in the matter. Most people are unaware of this trickery and how dangerous this really is. CC come much deeper than academic standards. There is evil at work here, make no mistake.

      • So far, you have the best theory. Bully Gates and Co. are hoarding data about kindergartners so that when they’re in their 40s, Microsoft can try to sell them copies of Windows 25 and Office 2052 by spamming their bionic implants with advertisements.

        • ncpride

          Not just Gates. The government wants to know everything about our children, from medical history, to how they feel about ‘diversity’. Common Core is called a Trojan Horse for very good reason.

    • geralddmartin

      Gates and the Chamber of Commerce types are more interested in importing workers – of all skill levels and education – from Third World nations, than they are in truly improving the education and readiness for productive work among the native born population. Well-educated and job-competent Americans would cost more than Bill & Big Business are willing to pay, so bring in hordes of non-whites to keep the labor costs down in high and low tech industries. OTOH, Common Core will produce badly educated, under-skilled, but easily manipulated employees for the not-so-important but still necessary jobs that its Delta minus & Epsilon Semi-moron graduates can handle – hence its support by B&BB. Plus, more non-white immigrants at every level means more marginalization & displacement of whites at every level.

      It’s a win-win situation.

      • LHathaway

        When you say they bring in ‘hordes of non-whites’, it might be more accurate to say they bring in ‘hordes of non-white men’.

        • geralddmartin

          Not necessarily – at least not if you include female foreign students. I had a hiking buddy, a professor & Sierra Club type, who bragged that some of his best students in electrical engineering at UT Dallas were Asian females (foreign students, not immigrants or native-born). I’m sure he wrote a lot of recommendation letters for them.

        • Mergatroyd

          There is family reunification where each of those ‘hoards of non-white men’ are allowed to bring over all their relatives, whether they’re related or not. Some of these ‘non-white men’ from the “horde” have brought in 90 of their closest relatives to burden the American taxpayer.

      • I’ll give you an upvote anyway. But dumbing down the schools was a feature of every other Educracy Inc pie in the sky before now. That doesn’t explain why they’re such fanatics about Common Cult. Why this particular one?

        • geralddmartin

          Mmmm, the Progressivists (John Dewey, et al.) were pretty fanatical about inculcating proper “democratic values” rather than timeless knowledge or cultural continuity. Ditto the “Open Classroom,” the “Outcome Based Learning,” & all the rest. (

          • Martel

            Any sources I could read?

            Benjamin Bloom inspired the UNESCO education program. He is also one of the clerics of Cultural Marxist Education, and claimed the role of education is to transform the values of students.

          • geralddmartin

            A good general overview of education “reform,” from the Progressives up through OBL (if memory serves), is The Troubled Crusade, by Diane Ravitch. She skips around the race issue, but reading between the lines she obviously knows the score there.

          • Martel

            I just bought another book by Ravitch “The Language Police”. Thanks for the suggestion.

          • geralddmartin

            She’s pretty good, within limits. She is a 1950s style liberal. Her, “Left Back,” might be an updated version of “The Troubled Crusade,” and hence more current, but I’m not sure. “The Language Police” is good, too.

          • Martel

            Will add that one to my list too ^^
            When i skimmed through a few pages she seemed to leftist for me, hope I she tolerable though.

          • Mergatroyd

            Diane Ravitch plays both sides.

          • David Ashton

            We should pick and choose, just as “they” do.

          • Geo1metric

            John Dewey, father of American public education, stated that “the purpose of public education is to create compliant workers”. That was decades ago.

          • MBlanc46

            Dewey was certainly a supporter of “democratic values”, but his principal emphasis was inquiry-based rather than rote learning.

          • geralddmartin

            Dewey’s principal emphasis was in making the school a change agent, directing the child away from parental influence and into the influence of “experts” (teachers, social workers, psychologists). His inquiry based learning is fine as long as it is not allowed to dominate the curriculum and classroom, to the exclusion of traditional knowledge (or simply hard knowledge, like math) and discipline, but it did exactly that. Virtually all the pedagogic theories which have wreaked havoc in American schools for about a century now are descended at least in part from Dewey. “Critical thinking skills” was the big one during most of my time in teaching, the idea that content didn’t matter, “We must teach our children to be problem solvers!” Well, fine, but if they don’t KNOW anything, they’ve got nothing to critically think about in the first place. And that’s really been the situation in our schools for a long time. As a result, foreign students (or engineers, or scientists), who spent their formative years in rote-learning, or in more traditional classrooms, and actually LEARNED something to think critically about, are the ones we increasingly turn to to do our serious thinking for us, because our own students have been RUINED by this god-awful way of destroying a child’s mind. It’s as if the American educational establishment was designed to give American students, not an education, but a lobotomy.

            Sorry about the rant. I saw this happening in the schools and most teachers were so embedded in the system (indeed, products of the system themselves) they could not see how they were killing the brains of our children.

          • MBlanc46

            I know Dewey more as a philosopher than as an educational theorist. I don’t see all that much difference between traditional knowledge and any other kind: it’s not the what as much as the how. I certainly won’t stand up for what I know of current educational theorizing. I would be surprised if the contemporary theorists have ever read much Dewey.

          • geralddmartin

            I’ve never read his straight philosophical works. I did have to read “Democracy & Education” to get a teaching certificate at a non-elite school. However, that was 25 yrs ago. You are probably right about today’s theorists, but to some extent they (and we) are all children of Dewey. And I’ll admit not all of his ideas were bad, just the way they were often implemented – devoid of true intellectual content.
            What I mean by traditional knowledge – for elementary school students – is mainly stories and poems about history and heroes. The McGuffey readers and their imitators contained many such tales, which gave students (white students, anyway) a connection to and pride in their past while also teaching them reading. (Learn by doing!) But in the modern school, where “democratic values” are supreme, such stories about our past, and history itself, are shunned because they do NOT teach democratic values, at least not in the way our PC leaders want it taught, which is to belittle and demean whites.
            When I was in elementary school, we read Dick & Jane. (See Dick run! Watch Jane play!) Dick & Jane was designed to teach nothing but reading skills. It was drivel; it was banal; it was boring. It probably started the crisis in reading among boys.
            It was the fruit – if not of John Dewey himself – of “Deweyism” in education.
            And it has only gotten worse since.

        • Martel

          The timing, the left now has the power to impliment it on a greater scale then ever, they also allow the influence of their progressive billionaire buddies. If this European comprehends CC correctly, its a racket where friendly businesses can be catered too as well. This is why businesses generally favor the democrats, despite the calls by fools like Engelman who claim the Republitards represents “Big money”.

        • r j p

          The schools have already been dumbed down.
          Laugh it you want because I am from West Virginia, but I went to one of the top public high schools in this country (at that time).

      • MikeofAges

        Don ‘t overdo it, man. They want good Gammas and Deltas. Not born one? Then they’ll make you into one.

        But read the book, “Brave New World”. the mediocrity of everyone, even the Alphas, was apparent. BNW is cautionary tale about what happens when society is treated as a product or machine, and human beings even allowed to exist in the first place only as part of the machine. BNW should be treated as a cautionary tale about what the socialist utopianism, either the hard Marxist version of the future ideal society or the Fabianism of the “democratic” left, ultimately will lead to.

        • geralddmartin

          I used to teach Animal Farm, 1984, and BNW in high school English class. All are great cautionary tales, as you say, but unless I’m mistaken they are seldom taught today, except in Talented & Gifted, Honors, or AP courses.

          • MikeofAges

            BNW is a cautionary tale, a warning not to believe in the wonders of a technological utopia. “1984” was a little different. It described the world we actually live in. Oceania, Eurasia, East Asia. Where would someone get an idea like that?

            I have updated the geopolitical scheme, though. Oceania, Eurasia, Eastasia, Southasia, Paniberia. Where would someone get an idea like that? In this scheme, France, as the nexus in between, Oceania, Southasia and Paniberia, might be the only autonomous historic nation. Along with Switzerland, of course.

            In my scheme, the only area left up for grabs would be Africa. But I think, Africa, the Asian Archipelago, and Southeast Asia all would ally with Southasia simply to avoid domination by Eastasia. Pesky guy, that Orwell. Every now and then, someone on the left actually has the stone to accuse someone on the right of being Orwellian. Someone on the right potentially could be many bad things, but Orwellian is not one of them. Being Orwellian is the special province of the left.

    • evilsandmich

      Some on the right see this as yet another way to stick it to the education unions. Unfortunately the enemy of your enemy is still your enemy.

      • Except that almost everyone on the anti-teacher union right is opposed to Common Cult.

        • evilsandmich

          Most level headed people see this as a bone headed idea and an attempt by the Feds to hijack their school systems. But, when the media publish articles from union types complaining about their dues paying members being unfairly graded against this, the violin shrinks just a tiny bit.

          • You are completely correct in one respect, but the feds hijacked the school systems the instant those schools accepted federal (our) money.

          • Mergatroyd

            Exactly right. It was at that point that education went from being a local or state issue to one of big brother central planning and one-size-fits-all.

        • Martel

          The unionised teachers support CC because it will make their work easier.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Not true, friend.

            It increases our burden 10 fold.

            CC ties teacher evaluations and, soon, teachers’ salaries to test scores. Remember the prevailing not-to-be-questioned education dogma is that IQ is meaningless and that all students are equally capable of succeeding and achieving equally at the highest levels. If the student doesn’t become a nuclear physicist, mechanical engineer or specialist in fluid dynamics, well that is the fault of the teachers and schools.

            After all, the kid’s been told since birth that he can ‘be anything he can dream,’ and that if he doesn’t succeed it is NOT his fault.

            Disparate impact as far as grades, test scores and any other measure is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS explained away as “low quality teachers,” racist textbooks, crumbling building, poverty, etc. Pressure is being put on teachers to “raise scores” or else see your evaluation and/or salary affected. For us, it’s a no win situation.

            I do not know a single teacher OR administrator who supports the implementation of CC. We’re the ones on the front lines and the ones who will be blamed (as always) when the entire program inevitably blows up.

            The short comings of the students, including many with low IQs and many who don’t give a rat’s *** about education, are never ever to blame

          • Martel

            If most teachers dislike CC, they should protest to their Union leaders then. All Unions seem to be in favour.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            Not mine, but it has been completely emasculated — I’m guessing the leaders were either bought off or promised lucrative jobs when their tenure is up, that is if they cooperate with the anti-teacher bureaucrats in charge.

            The last elected union leader was bought off with an offer to work for a private charter school organization. He accepted the fat salary, quit the union presidency — a year early — to accept the position and now speaks out against public schools.

            It seems that the Union leaders are in bed with the education bureaucrats.

          • Martel

            Most unions are in bed with the education bureaucrats who will gladly teach them how to pleasure the democrats, look at the SEIU, unions in general follow Obama’s agenda to a tee. I’m glad to hear many teachers oppose the political moves of their unions, now they have to wake up to why their their unions are corrupt.

          • r j p

            Charter schools are jokes here in Chicago.
            I have created a home school plan.
            Let the less capable have the public and charter schools.

          • Mergatroyd

            That is not the impression I get at all. Do you have any verification that all unions favor CC?

            From what I’m reading, the unions are fighting it tooth and nail because it ties test scores to teachers’ salaries.

          • r j p

            We all know how this is going to turn out. The good teachers in decent schools will see success.
            The teachers who received the degrees from the Chicago State University’s of the country will fail and complain that the system doesn’t fairly reward them.

          • Martel

            ”Weingarten added that she expects that many of her members would call for outright opposition to the standards during the AFT’s summer convention, even though both the AFT and NEA support the standards and Weingarten said she wouldn’t back away from the common core”

            A report from this week.

            I’m sure many state level unions disagree with common core as their size may have prevented their leadership from being ‘persuaded’.

          • Mergatroyd

            Weingarten is a female beleive it or not. At her level, she is a part of the Democratic party leadership at the highest echelons and most likely is funneling vast amounts of union monies to her buddies in the party. They’re all in cahoots, with the bottom line being money, and they won’t hesitate to turn on and stab in the back those who elected them.

          • Martel

            A California and a Chicago teachers union are run by Marxists and black supremacists like Karen Lewis, I doubt they are working to save their students from common core.

          • Swanny Feather

            To bad, Common core is designed to make learning basic writing ,reading and arithmetic much harder. If it is bad for whites, it will be much worse for non whites.

          • Martel

            I doubt this. The people behind Common Core would never allow the achievement gap to grow. Can you Imagine Bill “La Raza” Gates or Barack “Jeremiah Wright” Obama sponsoring common core if this were the case?

            I believe it will be very easy to adjust scores under CC to meet race-standards.

          • MBlanc46

            Thanks for that report from the trenches, er…, classroom.

    • Andy

      Having a “common core” of knowledge was originally a rather conservative concept, a reaction to the information-devoid “teaching” that generally goes on in our schools. E.D. Hirsch did some research on the matter and wrote a nice little book called “Cultural Literacy” explaining it. If we were actually using his ideas, Common Core might be decent (other than nationalizing education). So I’m not surprised it’s popular among “conservative” politicians in general. If it works, it’s a win for their side.

      Also, there is a lot of money to be made off changing the standards (again… and again… and again). New standards mean new “Common-Core-Aligned” editions of every textbook the textbook companies put out. Everybody’s got to buy new books if they want their students to pass the state tests.

    • Mergatroyd

      They did the same exact thing with No Child Left Behind and were adamant about implementing it as the cure for the achievement gap. Same thing with the profound failure known as the War on Poverty, which was to end poverty once and for all, but that is for another thread.

      What happened to NCLB? You’d have thought it was the second coming of Christ the way the government and their lefty enablers went on about it.

      Common Core will follow the same path, billions wasted, nothing to show, no change in the achievement gap.

      It’s so predictable I don’t even need to look in a crystal ball.

  • sbuffalonative

    If the test is made easier, it isn’t going to close the gap. All it will do is raise the scores for everyone, including top performing whites who would have gotten near perfect scores.

    Everyone’s score rises and the gap remains.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    “The scale on which scores are recorded will revert to the old 800 each on two sections, from the current 2,400 on three sections. (Goodbye essay points.)”

    I wonder why they decided to scrap the essay. Not that I think it was a good thing to have on the test, but there must be a political reason for this. Was a certain group scoring too highly on it? Whites, perhaps? I know Jews would do great on it too, but that usually doesn’t bother PC idiots.

    Or maybe a certain group was doing too poorly on it? Blacks or Hispanics, maybe? Black kids are terrible writers and a lot of the Hispanics can’t even speak English, so I could see them dropping the section because of this.

    I took the SAT recently enough to have been graded on the 2,400 scale and the essay was basically just a giveaway to kids with high verbal IQs that allowed us to roughly double our verbal-section score, which helped to cushion the blow from our usually more average or mediocre math scores.

    As much as I enjoyed having that advantage on the test, removing it is probably the right decision. It was pretty subjective, and the SAT should value objectivity over all. But I’d still like to know why

    • connorhus

      Many young adults, even Whites, coming out of public schools cannot write legibly enough to even grade essay written by hand. Handwriting isn’t taught anywhere near like it used to be and grading test section that have been hand written is sometimes a lesson in futility.

      • evilsandmich

        As well, people were always worried that technology would make us mathematical idiots; but its assault on language has been rather horrific.

      • Grantland

        When I was at school (an excellent English grammar school), we used our own money to buy the best Parker pens, with an eye to the beauty of our handwriting. A different world.

        • Mergatroyd

          Because the emphasis has changed from handwriting to word processing on a computer.

          Handwriting is a lost art, IMO.

        • Brian

          Fan of pencils here: Palomino Blackwing 602, and the Dixon Ticonderoga is good too.

    • My hunch is that the SAT verbal was a sop to affirmative action. A way for the blacks to write about how they were victims of racism and discrimination, how they had to run from the Klan every day on their walk to and from school. Or a white person could write about how he-she organized a school rally to combat transphobia or raise money for cleft palate kids in Guadeltombiastan.

      If they’re getting rid of it, it means my hunch was wrong.

      • GeneticsareDestiny

        You didn’t get to write about whatever you wanted, though. There was a question you’d have to answer. I believe the one on the test when I took it was something about the golden rule, although I can’t remember the wording.

        There was definitely a certain amount of wiggle room through which you could prove how PC you were, but you couldn’t just write an entire essay about the KKK or transgenderism.

      • Mergatroyd

        That goes to show that blacks have reached a point where they don’t have to tell their sob stories, it is already assumed that they’ve spent their entire lives running from the Klan and therefore are entitled.

  • JohnEngelman

    It is becoming increasingly important to get a professional degree from an elite university. Any effort to increase the number of blacks and Hispanics at those universities discriminates against those who deserve to be there.

    • geralddmartin

      Yep. It has been said here many times, but I’ll say it again: affirmative action and the federal gov’t.’s denial to employers of the right to administer real job tests to applicants has debased the value of a bachelor’s degree to the point where masters and professional degrees are absolutely required for many positions, which has led to the rampant credentialism we see today.

      • Martel

        Engelman would gladly bring 10 million of the brightest Asians to the US so there would be no spot left for the studious offspring of your family at any elite university

        • geralddmartin

          That sounds like the standard libertarian position. I believe Rand Paul has said that anyone in the world who wants to come to the USA, work hard, obey the law, etc., should be allowed to come.

          What you describe hypothetically has been happening for some time. It’s the academic corollary to what’s happening in the real-estate market, as wealthy Asians (especially Chinese) pour in and bid up the price of choice American, Canadian, and Australian houses and other properties beyond the reach of native-born whites.

          Colonization.

          • geralddmartin

            Oh, and another thing. The mis-education of young American whites – in Common Core and elsewhere – designed on-purpose to destroy any sense of connection, or ownership, or pride they might have in their own past, makes them helpless in the face of this colonization / dispossession. They don’t have the knowledge or tools to say to Asians, “This is MY country, not yours, and we will not allow you to come here and take what our fore-fathers built, and what is rightfully ours.” <—— That's the basic reasoning behind the various measures, like the Chinese Exclusion Act, which whites once used to keep Asians out of this country.

          • Martel

            The Asians simply outgun caucasian americans due to the fact that there are over one billion of them. Asians have been buying lots of property, just like they have been bribing and buying many Clintons.

          • geralddmartin

            Disagree. Our ancestors knew how to deal with them: keep ’em out. Let’s re-assert ourselves!

          • Martel

            I agree with your willingness to re-assert ourselves, but as long as we are being flooded because the likes of Engelman vote for Obama, its going to be increasingly difficult.

          • geralddmartin

            You’re right of course. It will be more difficult than we can imagine. But unless we re-assert ourselves as a self-conscious, coherent people, we are doomed. That’s why you should attend the AR conference in April, to exchange ideas on how to reassert ourselves and come together, and enjoy the camaraderie of racially conscious white people. I’ll be there.

          • Martel

            I thought about coming, and I would definitely enjoy it, but my trip forces me to pass the Atlantic ocean and it doesn’t fit my schedule this year(my financial schedule that is). I’m from the Netherlands.

            I will try to make it next year though.

          • geralddmartin

            See you then!

          • Mergatroyd

            I noticed on another thread that your comments and rebuttals to Engelman were taken down while his ad hominem, anti-white comments were left to stand.

            Our ranks need to be purged of those who demoralize, castigate and insult Whites and encourage our race replacement by Asians and Jews.

          • Martel

            He does seem to have a sympathizer amongst the mods, which is disturbing. Many of my comments which didn’t even mention Jews but spoke of the universality of ethnic conflict were erased too. Again, I don’t care if someone likes Asians and Jews or believe they have higher average intelligence then whites, this is fine even though I disagree. My problem is with those who actively deny the ethnic interests of Europeans.

          • Extropico

            There are 4.1 billion Asians! There are 1.351 billion Chinese alone.

          • Martel

            I’m sharp today, jeez. I meant Chinese ^^

        • I suspect he would also want ten million of the people who beat the poop out of him put down like bad dogs. I’m actually willing to do it.

          • Martel

            He has said more kind things about individual blacks then whites who he constantly derides and insults in this comment section. He made it clear he enjoys the displacement of whites. I think you have pegged him wrong,

          • Mergatroyd

            He says so in his own words which need to be posted continually, especially to those who continue to upvote his posts.

            I get the impression that they, like Engelman think whites should be race replaced by Asians and Jews.

            –Whites are to blame for creating the situation that has allowed blacks to evolve their dangerous street culture. Whites need to step back and allow non-gentiles to take the reins and fix things by using their higher intelligence.

            –More proof that whites will end up foot servants for the more intelligent peoples. I for one can’t wait to welcome my Oriental overlords when most work is completely automated and we lesser peoples will have to serve our natural masters. With their higher intelligence, we will be treated with compassion and fairness.

            –He should have married an Asian or Ashkenazi woman to improve his bloodline.

            –Engleman

          • Martel

            There Should be some screenshots or links to his comments. He actually has some amren commenters believing Engelman is disliked because he claims Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have higher average intelligence, even though Rushton says the same, 99% of amren appreciates Rushton without any doubt.

    • evilsandmich

      Pretty soon we’ll be like any other third world country where everyone has a college degree that isn’t worth the paper that it’s printed on.

      • Martel

        There will be a lot of bright Asians though, who are increasingly engaged in ethnically motived activism, and will help shut down any success of Caucasian students, who will not be allowed to escape “diversity” or demand preferential treatment.

        Engelman’s dream come true, he has said before on Amren that he enjoys watching Europeans lose their jobs to genetically “superior” Jews and Asians.

        • Mergatroyd

          Here’s the exact quote,

          — The thought of you losing your job to a more intelligent Jew or Oriental is pleasing to me. As time goes on there will be more of that.

          –Engelman

          Asians won’t shut down any Caucasian success, they won’t allow us to survive.

      • Truth Teller

        What will be valued more in the future are the skills you get vs. the piece of paper.

  • Grade compresion. That’s what going on with the SAT as far as I can tell.

    There is always an upper bound on a test–100 points on a typical university economics test. A well designed test discriminates between those who know a lot and those who know little. But we profs were under enormous pressure to design tests that do NOT discriminate. Thus, the ill-prepared student might make a 90, the somewhat prepared student a 96, and the well-prepared student a 100. Everyone gets an A.

    Everyone is a genius. No one’s feelings are hurt. But most of all every Mexican in Texas can get a college degree. With a compressed SAT, every Mexican and black can go to UT or Harvard. The New World Order in action; it’s affecting every aspect of life, from TV programs to education to the workplace.

    Egalitarianism gone wild.

    • dd121

      As an education goal it’s sick, don’t you think?

    • Grantland

      The school I attended ranked every student in every subject, according to exam results. Thus, you might come 6th in math, 21st in geography, 98th in chemistry etc etc. The rankings were then combined and a grand ranking determined which class you would attend the following year. Top 30 attended the “A” class; next 30 the B, and so on. Competition was ferocious.

      • Grantland

        ps – apropos of nothing – It was between me and a guy called Everington (my best friend) for #1 in English – but he was good at everything. ‘Wonder what happened to him. Probably head of the MI6 by now, knowing his interests.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          I had a math class in high school where the instructor sat students according to their ranking in the class.

          I sat in the first seat, something I remember well and am proud of to this day.

          Would never happen now because someone’s feeling might get hurt.

          • Grantland

            All-girls school, was it? No distractions? Uniforms? Mein Gott, but we’ve lost our way. (Our prefects had caning powers, and the honour not to abuse them. Caning was rare, though. The boys behaved.

          • Bon, From the Land of Babble

            No. Co-ed school, about 95% White, no uniforms. I was in the “honors” track, something completely forbidden in this day and age.

            We behaved because that was what was expected of us by our teachers, schools and families. Any misbehavior merited an immediate call home to one’s dad and that was MUCH more fearsome than anything the school officials could have possibly done to us.

  • Bon, From the Land of Babble

    Like this founding document, for instance:

    The College Board says an example would be an excerpt from an old speech by Representative Barbara Jordan in which she said that the impeachment of Richard Nixon would divide people into two parties. Students taking the test would then have several choices for what Jordan meant by the word “party.” (Students answering a gathering to celebrate an occasion, or to drink with friends, will presumably get no credit.).

    Why bother with the test?

    Only one question need be asked:

    Are you black or Hispanic?

    Sign an “X” on the bottom and you’re admitted to the college of your choice, all expenses paid.

    • LHathaway

      Nice graphic, but like the ‘fictional’ world of ‘1984’ the official chart will feature a line showing ever greater educational achievement.

    • My writing was not originally this good. I had to learn how to do it, and nobody helped me in the later days. My old sergeant can be blamed for a few other things, but A 77 year-old retired sergeant is a good, good friend. He cheered me up when I was depressed, which is I dislike you being sad or Spartacus being impatient.

      Perhaps everyone needs a retired sergeant as a close friend.

      • RisingReich

        Fortunately, I have a 88 year old WWII vet as a Father. Not a sergeant, but experienced enough.

        He helps me cope daily, Praise the Lord for that.

      • MBlanc46

        I’ve never had one as a close friend, but I did have one as a work colleague for a couple of years when I was still sort of young. We spent a lot of time shooting the bleep and I got a good deal of worldly wisdom from him.

        • A sarge is like that.

          • MBlanc46

            My wife’s uncle is a retired AF chief master sergeant. He’s one of the most naturally authoritative people I’ve ever known. The fact that he’s about 6’6″ only adds to the aura. You just automatically straighten up a bit when you’re around him.

    • slash345

      It’s very infuriating.

      I wish more whites would stop sitting idly by and being okay with this racist sh*t and start speaking up about it. These Authoritarians in washington won’t stop until whites are the under class and blacks are our rulers.

    • Mergatroyd

      In the old days, only the best students took the SAT test, it was understood that not everyone was “college material” and those who weren’t were put on the industrial arts track. Now, tracking is illegal and the current narrative says that everyone should go to college, even students who are retarded.

      We need to go back to tracking students instead of allowing those with inferior scores and grades to take up space in colleges that should go to higher scoring Whites.

      • Truth Teller

        The problem is so many employers demand degrees for jobs that don’t need them. You could be a weed whacker and need a college diploma in today’s environment. This is the reason why people are getting degrees in basket weaving or lesbian studies.

  • RisingReich

    All this deceit, all this hand-wringing, all this ‘worry’ goes away tomorrow if we’d just flush the toilet on Affirmative Blacktion and the ensuing EEOC lunacy.

  • Truth Teller

    I once wrote a treatment for a Sopranos storyline that would run through 10 or 12 episodes. Remember AJ the retarded clinically depressed emotionally disturbed son?

    episode 1 Carmela hears about college admission counseling businesses.
    episode 2 Carmela arranges things. AJ takes IQ test, a moron 75 IQ GPA all Fs
    episode 3 ‘counselor” aka saleswoman tells Carmela, all is not lost. Sliding scale of fees.
    Get AJ into local community college, low cost. 4th tier Wyoming state higher cost
    3rd Tier college higher cost

    “But you can afford it Mrs. Soprano, so why not go for the Ivy League?

    episode 4 AJ is given already filled out applications for admission and scholarships to Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Brown, Princeton, Columbia, Georgetown, Tufts, U of Chicago, U of Michigan, UCLA, Stanford etc. Filled out packet includes the standard poor, poor pitiful me, overcoming my greatest challenge essay written for him.

    The most important part of the application packet is the race box, it is checked black. All AJ has to do is sign is his name

    episodes 5, 6, 7 Other story lines predominate, but in every episode AJ gets letters asking him to come to interviews.

    episode 8 AJ goes to the Harvard interview. Actually it is not AJ but a young black actor
    who works for the college admissions agency. The young actor and Tony and Carmela walk past a kill all Whites demonstration, a free the Boston marathon bomber demonstration, a public nakedness and sex demonstration and numerous signs proclaiming the anti White studies programs

    The admissions committee consists of an Alan Dershowitz look alike, a Woody Allen look alike, a Noel ignatiev look alike some frizzy haired or crew cut women. All are dressed like homeless All are named Goldberg or Silverstein. All are ugly. Some wear hammer and sickle lapel pins. Room is decorated with pictures of marx, lenin, mumia al jamal, Farrakkan Castro, Mao and others

    Noel ignatiev look alike opens “So, you are interested in anti White studies. I am chair person of that department. Please tell us why you are interested in the anti White major.

    The black actor blathers in garbled, grunting ebonics about how he will use his Harvard education to destroy all Whites. He uses the standard threatening animal kingdom posturing, shuffles backwards, forwards and sideways, shakes his fist, standard ghetto performance.

    episodes 9 and 10 Repeat interview at Princeton, Yale and others.

    episodes 11 and 12 Letters arrive from all the colleges admitting him with full scholarship including a car, book store vouchers, a free computer and a $1,500 a month spending money allowance in addition to free room and board in the dorms.

    Many franchises cheat the franchisee and or are pyramid schemes that depend on too fast expansion and loans. Quizono sandwich shops just went out of business because
    all profit went to the parent company leaving the franchisee with nothing. 7-11 starts at $700,000 and are expensive. Subway sandwich shops are one of the franchises that are excellent for the franchisee. Subway is all over the country, has been around a long time,
    and has a reputation of letting the franchisee keep a reasonable profit.
    A Subway can be as low as $250,000

    Then there are the jiffy lube, smog control and other repair franchises.

    Between the corporate training and a few community college courses a young franchise owner will learn all he or she needs to know and be earning money instead of wasting years in anti White, anti Christian, anti hetero, anti Western civilization studies.

    Even STEM degrees are becoming worthless for Whites. The STEM companies insist on hiring only non White immigrants.

    I assume no amremers ever, ever give a penny to their alumni associations because of affirmative action.

    • Zimriel

      “The STEM companies insist on hiring only non White immigrants.”

      Smaller STEM companies mostly. The TBTF and the government-associated businesses do hire people with security-clearance; there’s no alternative. Those hire-ees are going to be Asian US citizens by choice, whites and Hispanics if Asians can’t be had.

      You are right that I don’t give to my alumni association. But that is more because of the generally anti-*me* way my alma-mater has gone. Put it this way – I got a call on the college’s behalf from some girl with an Indian accent. She let slip she was in the “policy studies” track. *She* didn’t benefit by affirmative-action.

      Still: I knew she was not going to do me any good as a graduate. I knew she was going to end up as worse for me, as a community-organiser or bureaucrat, than some loser athlete would end up. And, from that, I knew the university as a whole had become a madrassa for Marxism (well, more obvious about it).

      • Mergatroyd

        What is TBTF? Please define what these acronyms are, there are a lot of them on this forum and people like me have no idea what those letter stand for.

        As for donating to your alma mater, which I stopped doing years ago, don’t forget to tell them why. I told them I refuse to support queer, women’s of specific ethnic studies. They’ve stopped calling. If all of us stopped donations, maybe some of this would stop.

  • Diamond_Lil

    The essay has been eliminated because the Ese can’t do it.

  • Truth Teller

    Cursive handwriting; bank and DMV clerks have noticed that teens and young adults cannot even sign their bank accounts, ATM cards and drivers licenses. Library clerks note that kids getting their library cards can’t sign their name to the card. The teachers are always sending the kids off to the library to do their reports on Saints MLK, Harriet Tubman and the rest of the commie heroes. Did I say Saints? I meant Gods and Goddesses.

    But they don’t bother to teach writing or even printing. Kids learn to print in nursery school but after that nothing.

    • Alexandra1973

      Doing a lot of typing doesn’t do a lot of good either. I find my handwriting to be less legible lately, since I’ve been using a keyboard instead of a pen.

      And don’t get me started on text-speak versus actually writing things out!

      • IstvanIN

        My cursive was never wonderful but I always got complimented on my printing. I actually had a very flowing “hand printing” for lack of a better term. Now my printing isn’t what it was, I assumed it was because I am older, but since I type 90%, perhaps it is a lack of practice.

        • ncpride

          I actually have to concentrate when trying to print because I tend to resort to cursive after a sentence or two. It all goes back to my Elementary school teachers who forced us to practice cursive writing over and over until we got it right. Skip forward to my own kids, and they covered cursive writing for maybe a week. They learned at home on their own time. The schools simply don’t teach it any more seeing cursive as obsolete.

        • I do that too, from my days taking lab notes, so I can also manage a very fast “print” that looks much like cursive. Anyone can read the style, which made it ideal for lab notes.

    • My cursive is elegant, and one lady once remarked that my signature looked very Scottish. My old high school girlfriend’s was far better.

  • Northerner

    Contrary to popular belief, college Affirmative Action actually hurts Asians the most, not Whites. Some projections show that if admissions were completely race-blind, Asian enrollment would increase 5x and effectively reduce Black, Hispanic and Native enrollment to almost zero.

    • Martel

      Its not “contrary to popular belief”, the leftist media is glad to point this out when they do discuss AA occasionally, their main concern is not to concede their is such a thing as anti-white discrimination. If Asian Americans feel they are discriminated against, they should move back to Asia. I will gladly see them out personally.

      • Northerner

        They have a right to complain since U.S. institutions market themselves as being non-discriminatory. If anything, the elimination of AA should be everyone’s goal.

        • Martel

          My goal is the preservation of European culture and the safety of European Americans in the future. I prefer less Asians in the United States. I understand your concerns about fairness, I used to have those as well. The last thing I want is that the US becomes a more popular destination for Asians.

          • Mergatroyd

            You have done a great job of standing up for Whites on this thread and several others and for that you are to be lauded. I wish more Whites had your attitude and commitment and realized how perilous the situation is for the White race.

            I too care about Whites wherever their homelands are, we are all related genetically just as Jews feel they are related no matter where they are in the diaspora. This is our right as well. When White South Africans are slaughtered and discriminated against by majority blacks, the media and UN look the other way. Who stands up for them? Who will stand up for us when we’re in the same EXACT same situation in our homelands in the U.S. or Europe in a few generations?

            The answer is no one because there is such a strong anti-White bias in the world now and there are many who cheer on our demise, including posters on this thread.

          • Martel

            Thank you, I do not see any cause which is more relevant then the survival of whites and the recognition of the right to defend our ethnic interests. I’m not against Jews and Asians defending their interests, my only desire is that whites are allowed to do the same.

            I believe this statement is irrefutably reasonable, yet men like Engelman want to refuse me my rights, while other posters seem to be afraid of simply discussing what the Jewish people have discussed, unfortunately in overly simplistic terms, for decades.

        • nobody

          I am totally in favor of race blind admissions for colleges. We all know what that would mean, though. It would mostly be White, Asian, and Jewish kids who made the cut. And that’s rayciss. I find it odd that most progressives do not see the evident assumption that blacks are less intelligent than other groups and couldn’t get into college without legally mandated racial quotas in affirmative action policies. It would make much more sense to not even consider race at all, to merely consider test scores and academic achievement, and let the chips fall where they may.

    • geralddmartin

      Not according to Steven Farron, whose “The Affirmative Action Hoax” (available from AR) debunks the notion that Asians are hurt most. In fact, in many schools they are not hurt at all, and some may actually benefit. Check pages 253-263 of the chapter, “Who are the Victims?” Farron’s conclusion is that “the real victims” of affirmative action in colleges are whites. (p.263).

      • Northerner

        That perspective would put Farron in the minority. Even most critics of AA wouldn’t say that Asians are beneficiaries of it. The guy is also militantly pro-White.

        • Martel

          You said it, it puts Farron in the minority because the claim that Asians are hurt most is actually the popular belief.

        • geralddmartin

          “That perspective would put Farron in the minority.” Does it? I don’t know. But Farron observes that many AA critics avoid identifying whites as victims because it’s too politically incorrect to assert whites are being discriminated against. So they focus on AA’s impact on Asians instead. And Farron did not say AA favored Asians across the board, just in some schools.
          I’ve read a lot of stuff – pro & con – about AA over the years. Farron’s research strikes me as solid. I’m no expert, just someone who knows whites who have been kept out of good colleges by AA, starting before the Bakke case in the early 70s (like Bakke, to a medical school), and going up through today.
          “The guy is also militantly pro-White.” Personally, I didn’t get that impression as I read his book, but…so what if he is? What’s wrong with that, as long as it doesn’t affect the honesty of his findings?

          • Mergatroyd

            Farron would never find a publisher for his books if he wrote that Whites are victims of AA, which we clearly are.

            You can ask Jared Taylor about publishing a pro-White book. It took him years to get his last book published,

            “Taylor’s publisher, Kent Carroll, refused to handle this sequel and told Taylor that he regretted publishing the original, despite its success, because of the backlash from industry peers. Two literary agents, Theron Raines and Paul Zack, attracted by the manuscript’s undeniable skill and power, spent years trying to place it before giving up in surprised despair.”

        • Mergatroyd

          “The guy is also militantly pro-White.”

          I have his book on my shelf and haven’t gotten around to reading it but now that I know he is militantly pro-White, I’ll look it over.

          About time there were a few militant pro-Whites. It’s OK to be militant Asian, black, Hispanic or any other non-White, and if it’s OK for them, than that makes it OK for us as well.

          May the pro-White forces be with us.

  • PROUD TO BE WHITE

    It is a very difficult problem to solve given the sheer
    number of Hispanics, Blacks and Third-worlders who need a college degree to
    wipe their backsides on. I saw the problems described in this discussion coming
    over 40 years ago to my own country – Australia. This was off-set to some
    extent with the creation of the “group-of-eight” representing Australia’s “ivy
    league” colleges, but even this eight is slowly decomposing into a pile of
    excrement. From what I have been told Europe is also having the same problems
    with its educational system too.

    I have always believed that everyone is entitled to 12 years
    of pre-college education but college or “Uni” (University) as we call it here, should
    be for intelligent and hard-working young men and women. What could be any more
    egalitarian than that? As a physical scientist trained to the level of PhD in
    Chemistry many decades ago, I thought perhaps we could divide Universities into
    Science and Technology Schools completely and physically separate from those
    offering instruction in the arts. I suggested this because even today
    hard-working young men and women can still get a first-rate education in the
    physical sciences, engineering and mathematics. But alas this will not work
    either.

    The only way real change will come is through hardship and
    suffering. This is needed to awaken the lemmings, and the couch potatoes, the
    sally soccer-moms and the Jack and Jill six packs from their century long
    slumber. They need to understand that in the absence of a completely homogenous
    white society as existed in the west 100 years ago, democracy is a complete
    failure. You vote Democrat, and then Republican and then Democrat and yet
    nothing changes! Why? Because the right wing and the left wing are attached to
    the same political aircraft and that aircraft is controlled and owned by those
    who do not have our best interests in mind. And who do I speak of? I speak of those
    who shove equality down our very throats, but secretly believe that are better
    than everyone. That parasitic middle-eastern tribe who pray to that parasitic
    deity they call Yahweh, and believe they are superior to all humanity because
    their God chose them. They lie and deceive, and they scheme to destroy
    everything Europeans and the descendants of Europeans have created. Just reflect
    upon this. You had Netanyahu telling us that the Arabs must understand that the
    Bible tells us of the Jews exclusive right to the Land of Israel, yet Netanyahu
    along with 60% of other Jews are atheists. If you do not believe in god then you
    can use the Bible to dictate foreign policy. But Jews do it all the time.

    In conclusion the Jews are behind the destruction of your
    education system and the quicker you come to realize this, the quicker you can stop
    the slide into educational mediocrity.

    Thanks for listening!

    • saxonsun

      Crap.

  • MBlanc46

    There’s no choice but to dumb down when you’ve decided that the blacks and Hispanics have to pass. Regarding algebra in eighth grade, decades ago I was among one of the first cohorts to take algebra in eighth grade rather than the ninth. The idea, I imagine (they didn’t share their long-term plans with us), was that that should become the norm. Apparently we can’t do that, though, because Negro.

    • r j p

      My sister told me her kid is taking algebra in 7th grade. While I don’t doubt his abilities, I can not believe it is the same class taught to 9th or 10th grades.

      • MBlanc46

        I certainly don’t know, but I don’t know that kids of at least average ability couldn’t handle an algebra class, especially if it’s taught clearly and logically and not in terms of memorizing which technique to use in which situations.

        • Bon, From the Land of Babble

          One of my colleagues is a math teacher at a black/brown majority school. She told me there are 5 other math teachers in her department, all with math degrees and none of whom has less than 25 years teaching math. Yet the school scores remain in the 2nd percentile for math no matter what they do, no matter what they try (they are blamed, of course, for the poor scores).

          There are MANY students who will never comprehend Algebra I no matter how many times and in how many different ways it is broken down and explained to them over and over again. Every teacher I know is well aware of this.

          • MBlanc46

            I did say “at least average ability”. I don’t expect people with an IQ of 85 to get algebra. They’ll be lucky if they can master the arithmetic operations on natural numbers. I don’t know where the IQ cutoff is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if at least half of white middle school students could grasp algebraic concepts in middle school.

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        It is. My son took algebra in the 7th grade and used the exact same text the 9th graders used at the high school. He took geometry in the 8th grade and scored a 100% on the state test, by 9th he took Algebra II where he was the youngest student and got the highest grade in the class. This schedule allowed him to take Calculus I and II in high school and test out of two years of university level math (and physics) courses. The UCs in California, unlike the CSUs, do not accept AP high school classes for credit, only for placement.

        (he would be mortified if he knew I wrote this but hey– it ain’t bragging if you can do it!!).

        Of course not all students are ready for algebra in 7th grade and MANY students will NEVER get algebra because they are not able to process the concept of a variable or get past the first step of a two-step math problem — no matter how many times they’re shown how to do it.

  • The SAT essay was optional when I took it in 1983, but I did it and I quite enjoyed it. I wasn’t as good at writing over 30 years ago as I am now, but writing a lot makes one into a better writer. It also costs almost nothing except time. I wrote about how to get the army MLRS rocket into navy service recently, and am currently writing a letter to a former friend who lied to me, stole from me, and is now over seven years into a life sentence for molesting children. Yes, the guy was a PoS for a while. I remember a different version of him, however, like the guy who drove across town in his truck to help me take home a nice rolltop desk I had bought. I’ll never trust him again, but I want him to rediscover his old self. Maybe that way he will get parole, get a job and pay me. He won’t do it otherwise.

    Perhaps I should hate him, but I can’t. My life is great. I got some good woodworking and metalworking done today – the bandsaw blade jumped off the wheels and I had to open the machine up – and showed my daughter how to make a backwards shrimp lure. Chris didn’t get to do that. The most interesting thing he got to do today was probably mopping a floor.

    So I write. I can’t imagine not writing. Writing is a glorious expression of the human spirit, and the the SAT with essay is a useful preparation for that, along with a good English teacher and “spellcheck” on one’s computer.

  • ImTellinYa

    Changing the SAT so that maybe, any day now, low-IQ Blacks and Hispanics can do well on it is a typical symptom of the Leftist social pathology that lowers everyone to the lowest common denominator in the name of “equality.”

    And the lowest common denominator in this country is that of low-IQ lively, vibrant, diverse third-world savages; foreign and domestic.

    Blacks and Hispanics are almost uniformly bad students and worse teachers. The government panders to these cuckoos in the nest. The ideal is to make White kids as stupid as Blacks and Hispanics. Dumb down the curriculum and the intelligence tests, lower standards for everything across the board (firemen, police, military), and take the racist doctrine of affirmative action to its disastrous conclusion.

    Of course every year our traitorous government imports millions more third-world savages into the U.S. Until that is stopped and reversed, the schools will continue to be filled with hopeless students and affirmative-action parasites as teachers, and the Leftist social pathology will continue to metastasize.

    Our insane media keep screaming about the bad U.S. test scores, but if you look at the scores of U.S. Whites, they are still highly competitive with the rest of the high-scoring countries; those countries being exclusively European along with Japan. (Chinese scores can’t be trusted. They cherry pick the test takers to weed out the hundreds of millions of imbeciles. Ditto Korea.)

    • Northerner

      According to people here, there aren’t any exclusively European countries. Also, if you’re going to select a cross section of U.S. test takers who score higher (e.g., white students), then you should take scores from China and Korea as valid too since you’re accusing them of doing just that.

    • r j p

      There’s a reason bunches of Koreans work in nail salons and own dry cleaners.

  • Anon

    The problem is no one wants to admit that these tests are indeed racist. There is literally no such thing as intelligence. Intelligent is just another euphemism for white. Less than 50 years ago, it was universally understood, for at least the previous 3000 years that those qualities that set people above others are all just race. There is not the pious man. Not the intelligent man. The noble man. The good man. The just man. There is no such thing as the altruistic man. Or any man with any positive trait you can think of. None of these things exist in the other races unless FORCED upon them with varying degrees of success by the WHITE man. No….there is not a “crème of the crop” extant in every group, let alone in every race. Only white people and non-white people and the chasm between us is very, very wide and deep. These tests are trying to do something absurd, which is to pick out a non-existent elite. They either fail miserably, or end up selecting all the whites.
    In a sea of dark faces, it is EASY to pick out the leader, the ruler, the good man, the rich man, the IMPORTANT man. It’s the white guy. And in a society trying to delude itself, this is a problem.

    • Peter Connor

      This is sarcasm, I assume. Or did we suddenly discover a bunch of Newtons and Jeffersons in sub Saharan Africa?

  • Mergatroyd

    Leftists and others of their ilk have always despised the SAT because it exposes their lie about black and white intelligence as equal. They’ve run out of excuses as it’s become increasingly clear that there is an intractable gap in intelligence between blacks and whites that no amount of money can fix.

    Blaming poverty and white racism isn’t working, and, in fact, has become laughable, after billions of wasted dollars were spent on busing and other lefty schemes that have shown no result.

    So, the next logical step is to eliminate the test entirely and, it looks like this is one last ditch effort to dumb down the test yet again before scrapping it entirely. If the gap doesn’t close after removing all the hard vocabulary words and difficult math, and basing the test on issues of social justice and white perfidy, then it’ll be scrapped.

    The leftists have already told us repeatedly that the SAT measures nothing and is in no way an indicator of the skills necessary to succeed in college, when by every measure known, the test is, indeed, a good measure of future college success.

    • geralddmartin

      The SAT used to be a defacto IQ test, because it had so many “g-loaded” (problem solving type questions), not only in the math section, but also in the verbal, in the form of analogies and questions requiring “close reading” of texts and analytical discrimination in choosing the correct vocabulary word.
      Hence the screams from the low-IQ minorities and their white advocates.
      The changes to the SAT over the past 15yrs have taken out many g-loaded questions like analogies, and reduced the difficulty of the most difficult math questions, and the latest changes will dumb-down the vocabulary sections. All this makes the SAT less and less an IQ test, and more of an achievement test, based on the regurgitation of pre-learned knowledge & facts.
      It is unclear if these latest changes will help low-IQ minorities, but the previous changes, which were designed to boost black & Hispanic scores, failed to do so. The one group which seems to have benefited from the changes is Asians, who have significantly boosted their scores in relation to whites in recent years. Steve Sailer is the only one I know of who has written much about this development. He predicts the latest changes will cause another increase in Asian scores.

  • Brian

    The deductions for guessing wrong are gone. Literally, there will be no harm in guessing.
    ====
    There never was any harm in guessing, statistically. Five answers to choose from, and you get a point for the correct one, and -1/4th point for incorrect. Guess five times, you get one right, four wrong… even steven. If you could eliminate even one answer and guess from the other four, it paid to guess.

  • Mergatroyd

    We Whites are a genetic family and the world has become poisonous to Whites wherever our homelands are because each and every one of our homelands has been targeted by anti-Whites for destruction via massive non-White flooding. The UN calls this genocide when it happens to non-Whites in non-White countries like Tibet.

    Martel stands up for Whites wherever they are and for this he should be lauded and praised, especially as this is a White issues site.

    Would you tell American Jews to mind their own business, that Israel is none of their business since they don’t live there and can’t vote in their elections? Is that OK with you?

    All White homeland will be majority non-White by 2050 and this is a concern for all Whites wherever they live.

    Now go back to Tim Wise’s website.

  • geralddmartin

    The only immigration I favor is by “free white persons of good character” (and only in small numbers), as specified by our first naturalization law in 1790.

  • geralddmartin

    Of all the races, whites are the most altruistic, especially toward other races. (The first great example of this was the British abolishment of the slave trade.) Unfortunately, this altruism has become so extreme in some whites that it causes them to favor other races over themselves, even when doing so harms whites. This is called “pathological altruism,” and it has been the subject of a number of articles on this website and at Occidental Observer. The existence of pathological altruism among white researchers in AA is why I focus on the research itself, and not the researcher, in determining the accuracy and honesty of the findings.

  • Truth Teller

    The SAT should stay the same. It isn’t racist because it isn’t discriminating against intelligent people of other races who take the test.

  • GeneticsareDestiny

    Public school students are indeed taught to do five-paragraph essays, but I’m not so sure that those are graded poorly. I wrote one and scored a 730 on the writing section, and I did not make mine extraordinarily long (unless a two-page essay is longer than usual). Even if you only look at my essay subscore (10/12), I still did decently.

    At the very least, they are not uniformly grading five-paragraph essays poorly. Also, students only have 25 minutes to write their essay, so there’s a limit to how long you can make it anyway, even if you were consciously trying to ramble on and on for more points.

  • leftists are delusional

    I wonder how much longer it will be until blacks have their own SAT graded on a curve to equal white scores…